Thread 712521334

Games stopped being kino

>>712521334 (OP)
I remember when Dishonored came out it was considered rather average.
Now I look back to it so fondly. Things declined so much.

>>712521334 (OP)
Is it really the spiritual successor to Thief?

>>712521419
This is your hint to stop obeying /v/ groupthink and actually play more games to form your own opinion. Oh Oh Oh I can't play this or that game because it's not popular! Or some Anon with OCD makes threads every day for weeks comparing it unfavorably to some older game! Get real. Play more games.

>>712521334 (OP)
Yeah
>>712521419
I just don’t think you knew what you had, the work put into the setting alone was impressive then as much as now

>>712521334 (OP)
Dishonored is unironically a top 5 for me.
The art-style looks great, the levels are fun to traverse through and play, the gameplay mechanics on offer work together almost perfectly, and it doesn't overstay it's welcome at all
The atmosphere and ambience are fucking great too because of the soundtrack

>>712521602
No. It's actually closer to Dark Messiah.

>>712521661
I play a shit ton of games. This is based on my own opinion and experiences with this franchise.
>>712521685
I was super excited for the sequel and it just lacked something the original had. And then everything went downhill from there.

>>712521602
Yes and no. It’s an excellent stealth sandbox, but the vibe is completely different. Corvo doesn’t need to stay stealthy, he can want to. And If he decided he didn’t want to, killing everything in open combat is pretty effortless.

>>712521334 (OP)
dishonored got memed on a bit when it came out, but I still think it's a great game

>>712521419
>I remember when Dishonored came out it was considered rather average.
Huh. I saw people sucking the game off non stop & still to this very day see people fellating it.
I was disappointed in it because I erroneously believed it would be a competent & fun stealth game. I enjoyed the first few levels up to the masquerade level solely because of the interesting shit going on in levels themselves but after that it nosedived hard. It never really got better, after I killed daud or whatever I never played it again, just forgot about it.

>>712521419
To this day there are people who post gameplay clips of them doing crazy fucking shit in the first game, giving me the urge to replay the missions again.

>>712522006
>I saw people sucking the game off non stop
I saw people dismissing it as "not as good as Thief" without realizing it's more of a Dark Messiah game than a Thief game.

>>712521732
simple
first game created an entirely new setting
in the second game you already experienced and knew the setting so it had to shine more with story and gameplay which it didn't

>>712521334 (OP)
>Games stopped being kino
Expedition 33 is pretty kino.
Baldur's Gate 3 is pretty kino.
Jagged Alliance 3 is pretty kino.
Cyberpunk 2077 is pretty kino.
Disco Elysium is pretty kino.
Noita is pretty kino.
ECHO is pretty kino.
CONTROL is pretty kino.
Dying Light is pretty kino.
STALKER 2 is pretty kino.
Divinity:Original Sin 2 is pretty kino.
Surviving Mars is pretty kino.
Desperados 3 is pretty kino.
Blasphemous is pretty kino.

Here have this list of kino games.

>>712522062
It is neither. The retarded developers fucked up with their ''chaos system'' and the game ended up as neither Dark Messiah nor Thief. Dumbest gameplay system i've ever seen that works as a counterpoint to the base gameplay and most of the mechanics in the game.

>>712522195
None of these do it for me.

>>712522062
Leading up to the games release the media wouldn't shut the fuck up about the fact they had former thief devs & the devs themselves showed off the most interactive levels making it look like a mix of thief & hitman.
That gave the impression that the powers that were actually fun to use were an auxiliary to those elements & not the only the way to play the game & have fun. It didn't help that the game's story was set up to constantly monitor your usage of said powers & judge you for it. Most people want to be the good guy so the game inherently incentivizes people to play in the most boring way possible. Its like having santa claus constantly monitoring your behavior to see if you were a good boy looming over the game at all times. It would've broke immersion but people probably wouldn't have been so hostile to it if the game explicitly gave you a kill count per level instead of being opaque. I remember watching my friend play it & the whole time he was micromanaging how much fun he was having playing because he heard he'd get the bad ending where the characters shame the fuck out of you if you kill too many people. Totally ruined the game for him.

I see /v/ is still very mad at this game.

>>712521334 (OP)
I like it because of the cunny

I laugh at any low IQ wad who bitches about the high-chaos ending or the fact that Samuel hates your guts.
The journey > the 30-second "bad" ending that is just as shitty and boring as the "good" ending

>>712522195
finished more than half of what you metion here and most of them are shit or slop
>captcha RM420

>>712522282
Retard

>>712522889
>Low and high chaos is the same
Martin fkn kills himself when he sees you.
And the others are even worse off.
Tell me you dont know shit and never played the game without telling me...

>>712524283
you just grew up and stopped enjoying games as much

Dishonored was alright, the sequel ruined it.

>>712524921
I grew up and began understand slop and at the same time all studios showed they can only copy paste each other.
The last games I really liked are Death Stranding, Nier Automata and Prey.
So its been a while.
But art in general is dying at the altar of corporate greed.
Games, Movies, Music, TV and even Books are all going to shit.
The fact that what we are calling AI can compete, says everything.

>>712525153
>The last games I really liked are Death Stranding

>>712525268
>I never played that game, but I keep posting about how bad it is.
The combat sucks, the story is stupid, the combat pointless and the endgame retarded.
But walking around a big game world doing preplanning, prepping and building is fun.

>>712525373
>bro the games sucks but its actually good

>>712525489
said combt twice, meant bosses the first time
>pic related

>>712522195
I'll add to this positivity with some more kino:
Kingdom come deliverance
ELEX
Wolfenstein new order
Abiotic factor
Tainted grail act 1
Alien Isolation
Prey
Half life: Alyx
Outer Wilds

>>712525153
>art in general is dying at the altar of corporate greed
>meanwhile let me go play Kojimball's self-indulgent slop filled with celebrities
I see

>>712525889
see >>712525373

>>712521602
Yeah it has a money counter at the end of every level.

>>712521708
That's actually a good comparison. The game doesn't prioritize stealth enough for it to be completely Thief-like.

I like dark messiah more

>>712521334 (OP)
>Lies of P
>Nioh
>Ghost of Tsushima
>Space Marine 2
Those games are kino af.

>>712521661
Decline is real though

>>712521661
The majority of /v/ doesn't play videogames.

>>712528664
Why do fake amerimutts project their fragility onto actual cultures and people so much?

>>712521419
>it was considered rather average
nigga were you there?

>>712530389
Yeah. I was posting here when it came out.
It was praised by gaming journos and reddit but people were more critical here.

Dishonored is kino
I describe it as the last great PS2 game, because it feels like a game out of that era but just prettier

>>712531340
disingenuous as fuck, people were "more critical" of it because /v/ isn't one person, it was loved here too

>>712531491
>disingenuous as fuck
Suck a cock faggot, what are you even saying? Yeah /v/ isn't a person when the fuck did I imply that you fucking retard?
Some people here loved it and a lot of people including me criticized it at the time but now look back on it more fondly.
What the FUCK are you splitting hairs over you absolute fucking nigger?
I'm not disingenuous you're just a legitimate fucking autist.

I am currently playing through Dishonored 2. Why is the writing so shit and wtf did they do to the outsider? He turned into an obnoxious faggot.
Also Prey is very good but damn the writing in it is SUPER POZZED. All the white men on the station are characterised as incompetent while the women are all girlboss and gay or getting blacked. Its weird.

All of these games are too easy btw. No idea how anyone could struggle even on highest difficulties. Need more punishing.

>>712531845
americunts ruin everything

>>712531845
They had Anita Sarkeesian as an advisor.

>>712531746
you went from it was considered mediocre to some people loved it here very fast, all this looks like is personal revisionism, contradicting yourself, and throwing a bitch fit when challenged

>>712524634
99% of the game is the exact same and only the final mission changes, yes. Holy shit can you be more disingenuous? The fucking title of the mission outright says as much, unlike the other 99% of the game. Retard.

>>712525945
>art in general is dying at the altar of corporate greed
>but in this specific case it's fine because I enjoy the shit product so that magically doesn't make me part of the problem
I see

>>712532185
She's so pretty.

>>712531845
I hope you're playing as the right protagonist

>>712532219
holy shit you are a genuine poser

>>712532394
I said I liked it, not that it was great.
However it was factually creative and the first attempt to make the basic concept of moving a digital avatar more interactive since WII fit.
So yes, it not being Call of Duty 19 or Ubislop 42 makes it objectively better than 98% of all other games.

>>712521419
>I remember when Dishonored came out it was considered rather average.
What? It was literally one of the most critically acclaimed games ever on release. And no, it wasn't just journos, the general public sucked it off as well.

>>712533369
>a courier simulator with early 2010s weight mechanics present in plethora of Flash games made by an egocentric westaboo with a hard-on for B actors GOOD because... I disliked most every one of its gameplay mechanics
I see

>>712533356
I accept your concession

>>712532337
I only defended the last mission and not the entire chaos system you fkn goalpost shifter.

>>712533624
Anon wasn't talking about the final mission but the 30 seconds epilogue cutscene you fucking inbred goat

>>712533565
>I just want more slop
being a disingenuously interpreting cunt isnt that creative either.

>>712521334 (OP)
This game absolutely does not work after you realize that you can easily cut out the entire location without even trying hard

>>712533819
>I just want more slop
That's what you seem to be asking for, yeah

>>712521419
>it was considered rather average
??????????????
why would someone lie like this?

>>712521334 (OP)
god-tier lore and world, piss easy gameplay with the blink and the other million gadgets you have are constantly discouraged in favor of non-lethal playstyle which only has a choke and locks you out from all your tools.
The story is also really really bland and the celebrity voice acting is horribly delivered and wooden.

>>712533962
Yes thats what you are asking for indeed.
But you are dense enough not to realize that you are proving my point with your own fkn argument.
The fact that flash games are more creative than indies and indies more creative than tripple A is what proves it perfectly...