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Is this really what gamers want?
>>712524491 (OP)I hate isekai so fucking much.
This is a one bit joke that should have been nothing more than a short, instead it will exhaust it's premise on the first few episodes and fall into the same old tired beats that makes all isekai completely interchangeable by how similar it all is.
Pure nipponese slop.
>>712524491 (OP)no, this is what gamers actually want
>>712524491 (OP)No, we just want original ideas.
>>712524902I hate them too. I hate how they can freely handwave all worldbuilding and lore in favor of "The protag just appeared and they're really good at everything!"
I also hate all the gamey elements. Why bother creating a universe with its own laws when you can just attach everything to an invisible character sheet? I'm so glad my favorite animes came out before isekais ruined them.
>>712524491 (OP)>Carrying a bag full of eroge in public in 202-whenever this was first writtenEh? I thought everything like that was gotten digital now
Akihabara is dead isnt it
>>712524491 (OP)I look like that
>>712524902traditional isekai is on the way out anyway.
japs are starting to move onto post/ meta gimmicks.
some of which are quite good
>>712525217traditional isekai is way older than this slop
>>712525119>I also hate all the gamey elements.This drives me absolutely insane too.
Who finds this shit endearing?
Being transported into a fantasy world and suddenly everyone is talking about mana points, resistance percentages, damage points. GTFO with that shit.
How havent people gotten sick of isekai yet?
>>712525327yeah, but the semi-recent resurgence is what i'm referring to.
they burned through it pretty quick
classic isekai -> a few big epics -> less serious ones -> gimmicky ones -> post/meta ones
>>712525217What kind of post/meta genre titles are actually good?
Are you referring to shit like the cooking/innawoods isekai a couple years ago?
>Gave himself a gorillion debuffs to farm up a bunch of stat points but never got time to actually use them
of course
>>712525403its literally just because learning is too hard. They want to use something understandable and familiar. Its what drove Goblin Slayer over the edge. Started as a D&D story, ended as a D&D game
>>712525119>>712525403>gamey elementsThat's because japs don't take the fantasy seriously. It's a complete meme genre from the top to the bottom, adding rpg elements to it doesn't make it any more or less of a meme.
If anything this makes japs look sober in this department, and westoids taking it seriously is more embarrassing. Worldbuilding my ass. The absolute state of English literature that obliged it to treat muh Tolkien as an actual classic really did a number on this particular subject.
>>712524491 (OP)Mushoku tensei became unredeemable garbage after the MC went into a depression because his cousin pumped and dumped him.
Shield hero sucked from day 1.
Reincarnated as a slime sucked the moment the goblins were transformed into hobgoblins (green humans).
Overlord always sucked.
>>712525403The way I see it, it's just a minor established element that everyone accepts so nobody bothers to make their own version, kinda like rare/epic/legendary rarity items in games even if that shit makes no sense in the context of the game.
>>712525963Do japs like LOTR? I think they also invented Wizardry and are fond of dnd
>>712525963>If anything this makes japs look sober in this departmentYou are fooling yourself, the bulk of nips are just really bad and/or lazy with worldbuilding.
>>712524491 (OP)Heโฆ he looks like me..
Heโs built like meโฆIโฆthank you..
#RepresentationMatters
>>712524491 (OP)He... He looks like me..
He's built like me... I... thank you <3
>>712525963>That's because japs don't take the fantasy seriously. It's a complete meme genre from the top to the bottom, adding rpg elements to it doesn't make it any more or less of a meme.No. The nips writing this dreck are too lazy or too smart to waste time on writing indepth world building for a very lowbrow genre.
>>712525632Aww the isekai baby got his feefees hurt
the majority of popular manga is only popular because big wigs scour the light novel sites, pick out the simplest to read stories and give them publication deals. I blame the Japanese language, even Japanese kids don't want to learn it when English exists
>>712524902Isekai should be more like Jumanji, .hack//sign, Narnia and the never ending story.
Problem is Japs are way too incompetent and creatively bankrupt nowadays that such things are outside their grasp.
>>712524491 (OP)>Its not the one about the ugly dude who's packing a massive dickMiss me with that
>>712525998>Reincarnated as a slime sucked the moment the goblins were transformed into hobgoblins (green humans).that was such a downgrade both for non-coomer and coomer reasons
>>712525963they take it very seriously
it's just that dragon quest and isekai anime are the only fantasy they know
I hate the most recent "I was kicked out of my party but I was actually the one holding everything together?" trope.
>>712524935incorrect. gamers want this
>>712524491 (OP)Whoa he IS literally me!
>>712525217>onto post/ meta gimmicksOh good, anime is gonna go down the same waterfall that western animation did for the past 15 years. Wonderful. Wonderful.
>>712525442It's the same battle-harem wish fulfillment genre that dominated de 2000-2015 era
>>712524491 (OP)>muh super cheat powersFucking dropped
>>712526489The "I've reincarnated as an OP breeding fat ugly bastard with a massive dick" isekai is actually kino
>>712526659It's a revenge fantasy for social outcasts, fantasizing about others needing your presence and even begging for forgiveness after being shunned is very ego boosting.
I see the appeal.
>>712526828Living unable to die while your true love died right before your eyes? No thanks.
>>712526659Ok, but what's the trope you love?
For me it's the villainess being good and getting her revenge on the female MC that stole her fiance
>>712525217>japs are starting to move onto post/ meta gimmicks.Oh good, it's going from bad to horrible.
This
>>712526850
>>712524491 (OP)But I look like this.
>there are people on 4chan that aren't a 12 yr old japanese school girl
>muh isekai
It's just naroupa slop that's easy money and low reqs for animation adaptations.
Might not even be that popular now since narou died due to pandering to fujos and most writers left for kakuyomu which is owned by kadokawa.
>>712524902I don't actually hate isekai itself but I do hate the anime trend of using it as fantasy escapism for incels or whatever chuds they are aiming for.
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We need more series with ugly protagonists in the real world and not in isekai.
>>712527353See
>>712526868You are 25 years late
>>712527196did your big bro steal your nose and never gave it to you back?
>>712526659Yes, it's fucking terrible. It's the one mindless basis for a manga I can't fucking stand because the entire premise relies on the writing being retarded.
Even the chinese ripped it off and have their own "everyone betrayed me but i'm secretly the greatest ever!" fad complete with the writing being unusually fucking retarded even by chinese webnovel standards.
>>712527418It doesn't mean that it could be used for something that isn't that, digimon adventure for example. Nothing wrong with stories about people being sent to another world, it's the wish fullfilment that is slop.
>>712525403japs never moved on from Dragon Quest III
>>712527397>muh realism>muh miseryNo fucking thanks.
Everyone's gonna hate me but I despised overlord
>>712527073women and faggots wouldn't understand
>>712527131For me its matchmaking baby princess
>little girl isekai'd into a fat obese middle aged man
That would be kinda funny.
>>712527532Yeah, but that's the issue. Escapism for social rejects was always the aim, because, who else is gonna buy 3536363747ยฅ figurines and DVDs? The ones that actually feel like legit adventures are usually for kids.
>>712527584Escapism is for pussies, embrace your ugly disgusting self and ascend.
Isekai has more masterpiece than harem JK slop at least
>>712527810Based and Nurglepilled
>>712524491 (OP)>Get a chance to live a 2nd life>Doesn't live to it fullest
>>712527810>going on 4chan to whine about escapismNormalfag behaviour. Get the fuck out faggot.
>>712527812I haven't checked the first one, but the handyman series is the only good one from that list
>>712527810Realism has literally never created a work of art or entertainment worth engaging with.
It's just an excuse to make trash.
>>712527812I've only seen uncle and overlord and both are terrible.
>>712527896Being on 4chan is not an excuse for having an unhealthy self-destructive mentality, it's never to late to grow up.
>>712527864You are courting death, junior
>>712527812Redo of healer is an embarrassment to the entire anime artform. A colossal piece of shit.
>>712524491 (OP)Busamen gachi fighter
Gain power In exchange of beauty
>>712527996>self-destructiveYou mean forcing yourself to reject stuff you like in order to cater to some subhuman faggot on the other side of the world?
Go back to your facebook threads you waste of space.
>>712527996Bathing in misery is just as pointless and self-destructive, and it doesn't present a better alternative to strive for.
So what do i have to wait for Frieren and Dungeon Meshi to come back to get actual fantasy anime again?
>>712527812>when Redo of Healer was getting shilled nonstop and spammed all the time because of the rapesame shit that happened to Goblin Slayer btw, everyone swearing up and down it's "SO BASED" and "KINO OF THE DECADE" because the author frontloaded the shit they knew would get people to pay attention
>>712527584>>muh miseryKurosawa is cool because no matter what awful shit befalls him, he's always ready to keep on going and keep trying.
>>712527608Nah bro, overlord sucks
*imagine I have that one horrible animation of the 3d knights clapping because I'm too lazy to find it*
>>712528089Don't do it for me, do it for yourself
>>712528149>Accepting yourself is self-destructiveThere is no cure for retardation though
>>712524491 (OP)No, gamers want THIS.
>>712524902the other issue is that the world and setting is frequently 1% as interesting as it thinks it actually is
>>712528251>become a normalfag and suckle off modern hollywoodkys
>>712527812Proud to say have not seen any of these turds, Hell I haven't even seen Kill la Kill, Akame ga Kill or High School DxD .
>>712528149Yep, these people are just retards who think it's more "real" just because they get off on misery tourism. Complete brainlets.
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>>712527812Isekai went to shit when every series adopted vidya mechanics.
>>712528178It's funny how the author couldn't even stay true to the premise of a DND autist and just turned it into generic haremslop
Isekais now always feel dishonest, I don't know how to elaborate on that so don't ask
>>712527608Nah, it's very generic. It just got traction because it aired at the right moment, like many popular mediocre series. Any other isekai could have easily stolen it's place.
Also, it's boring as hell. The author clearly doesn't know how to write a long series.
>>712524491 (OP)no
im not that ugly
hell that dude is a 0
at worst im a 5
>>712527625I really like the story though, I have all the volumes physical at home. I just would never want to be in his situation.
>>712528365Dealing with a wider emotional spectrum amplifies the experience, you need the lows to make the highs pop. Isekai shit where nothing bad ever happens and everyone is happy all the time won't do it for you unless you have the emotional range of a child. You may as well be watching the Smurfs.
>>712528418its funny you think people care
>>712528334>Akame ga KillFuck, i'm still having that Post anime depression when remembering the ending
>>712528535I wouldn't call it VERY generic, but yeah it's a snorefest.
The powerscaling of the MC and his minions is just too great.
>>712525217they were always fucking meta
meta is easy to do, its hard to do well
>>712528639Semi related but I tried watching that uzumaki anime and the fact that it was just bad stuff happening 99% of the time totally turned me off. It just felt like the show was trying to induce stress rather than entertain me.
>>712528641Its funny you cared enough to reply
>>712528251You have a very strange idea about accepting yourself. I've got misery enough in my life as is, I don't need more of it in books or games.
And I'll make an accent on this, acknowledging your faults and actually trying to fix them are different things.
>>712525635Shit like Frieren
The adventurers have defeated the great evil and it now post game work.
Funnily enough the fantasy novel genre already went through this phase of post adventure stuff, exhausted it and are back to slice of live romance shit since women are now 80% of the reader base and their meaning 20% men are half homos
>>712524491 (OP)Mairimashita iruma-kun is the only isekai that matters, I've been following the manga after the first season ended and it's incredible how after all these years I still haven't lost interest.
Unprecedented.
>>712528639>no see you have to love misery tourism and emasculation of mcs or it can't be goodGo watch your modern american cinema and shut up about anime you absolute pleb.
>>712524491 (OP)This got me thinking.
Why is there usually no calls for the representation of ugly dudes?
>>712528791>fantasy novel genre already went through this phase>back to slice of live romance shit since women are now 80% of the reader base and their meaning 20% men are half homosFantasy novels aren't even getting written anymore. It's just porn for women filling up the fantasy shelves because bookstores won't just openly call "romantasy" smut like it is.
The only way to find real fantasy novels anymore is small publishing houses like DMR, self-publishing authors online like Wight and webnovels (mostly of the chinese variety).
>>712528647hey at least he got to impregnate the tsundere
>>712525119>I also hate all the gamey elements.If it's made for comedy purposes and done well it can get fun like pic or Cautious Hero, what is definitly worse is like Danmachi, which is not an isekai, having an rpg level system just to avoid building a powerlevel in the story.
>>712528867The standard for handsome male is much lower than beautiful female.
In my gym there's a tv always tuned into the combat sports channel. Most men who fight are genuinely more handsome than most of the men who go to the gym but godamn practically all of the women who are into combat sports look worse than the average female gym goer.
>>712527812How is Danmachi an isekai? I havent seen some of the other titles shown any though. The harem-ness of it does get annoying af, was Great, then good, then bearable the first 3 seasons.
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When Dungeon Crawler Carl will inevitably get it's adaptation animated or love action it's going to mog all you weebshit slop
Alright, but if you had to recomend the WORST fantasy/isekai series, which one would you pick?
For me it's this one. The more you read the more your IQ drops.
>>712528820What you're referring to is a small subset of Japanese pop culture targeting kids and retards, it will never be up there with the greats like Berserk, Neon Genesis, Studio Ghibli and Akira. Maybe you should expand your horizons a bit and see what else is out there.
>>712529348Tell me why you think that is.
>>712529235>dungeon cuck carl the prime example of reddit writingno thanks
>>712529348mushoku tenshi
the mc is a unlikable pervert that never grows up as a person, his cousin/lover is an unlikable asshole that never comunicates nor grows up as a person
they both kill any interest the serie can have
>>712529235>muh orcs>muh Harley Quinn reference>muh Thanos metal glove>muh cape>muh Minotaurs>muh MtG artstyle>muh dwarfCheff's kiss (smak) so fucking original.
>>712529357>Berserk, Neon Genesis, Studio Ghibli and Akiralmao why not mention cowboy bebop and flcl while you're at it, toonami tourist.
>>712524491 (OP)is the boy also part of his harem
>>712529483The more you get into degenerate weebshit the more you think fucking anime boys is okay
Like me
>>712529209is this the average muyu viewer?
>>712529432Bro need to stop self insert as Eren Yaeger on every anime he watches
>>712529235In the first 50 pages the mc is not only cucked but it also calls characters incels.
The first two volumes obsesses over his cucking and the very first humans he fights are evil hwhite ice agents who killed poor innocent illegals.
>>712529624>>712529607found the perverts that self inset on this serie
>>712529467You're just the weeb equivalent of an MLP-fanatic/Borny, you'd be watching the smurfs too if it had anime titties while praising it as high art.
>Not an isekai.
>Has video games stats.
>Still manages to be kino.
Guruguru chads stay winning.
>>712524491 (OP)I'd rather watch a non-isekai set in a fantasy world that is copied straight from Dragon Quest.
>>712528283Why do fish furries have that weird fucking tail on their back? That shit looks so bulky and encumbering
Shangri la frontier was a pretty alright watch as far as generic isekais go
>>712529725damn I should watch this show. I remember it airing on tv when I was a kid
>>712529701Because it's meant to be a parody of Dragon Quest and makes it work
>>712529825That's because it isn't an Isekai, they're in an actual video game and everyone knows it's a video game. They can also leave whenever they want.
>>712529681I mean self insert as a pervert while grinding this semen demon over that hag elf called Frieren?
I'm all in!
>>712529348I thought that one was pretty comfy read. I liked how they make recaps of how much growth the fief had at every end of chapter
>>712524491 (OP)>will the female sidekicks involuntarily all fall in love with him despite how ugly she looks, but only the inner values matters, so its okay.If this is the case, I kneel
>>712529825It's not even an isekai. It's just some kid playing a video game.
>>712529895>>712529924I personally don't find the two any different with how anime normally portrays isekais anyway, but I guess you're right
>>712524491 (OP)No, I want this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFS7ZvqOO_A
>>712524902I love isekai so fucking much
>>712527196Come back in 6 years.
>>712529348The archmage's restaurant.
It's a gook ripoff of isekai shokudou that's probably the worst written thing i've ever read. And i cannot comprehend why it has such a high rating.
>>712529701>>712529725I DESPISE dragon quest but this was still enjoyable.
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Isekai is fucking dogshit. I hate seeing money and effort wasted on this slop. Actually, all anime and manga is shit now.
>>712530039Isekai is being transported to another world in one way or another. It can be a video game world but you actually live in it. It's not a game anymore. Just playing a video game is not isekai because you're not going anywhere.
>>712526946Please tell me that's real doujin or something and this isn't just a bit.
>>712526659They could do it way better as rise and fall Rockstar story with a coat of fantasy paint. The fame makes them act out and a clash of egos. Cause the whole group to split until some common goal or threat forces them to get the band back together. Need to give every member their own faults to make it work though.
>>712525963>That's because japs don't take the fantasy seriously.This anime about land of the Hitler being attacked by Jesus Christ is pretty serious, to the point that MC doesn't understand language of people in this new world.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXabZ_-QPb0
>>712526087>Do japs like LOTR?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kagzOJsHBg4
>>712530057Isekai ojisan is probably the best isekai.
Isekai is fucking great. I love seeing money and effort employed on this kino Actually, all anime and manga is amazing now.
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What are some of the best isekai's? Which ones would you consider to not be garbage slop?
Self aware and comedic isekai is good.
Isekai that takes itself too seriously and tries to be actual fantasy is bad because it's always done horribly.
>>712530243I wouldn't call it the best, but I really liked it.
>>712530241>>That's because japs don't take the fantasy seriously.>This anime about land of the Hitler being attacked by Jesus Christ is pretty serious, to the point that MC doesn't understand language of people in this new world.>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXabZ_-QPb0 [Embed]That's just 90s comics edgy mixed with isekai slop.
>>712528334Based, I refuse to watch NGE
>>712527812>slop>slop>based>slop>slop>slop
>>712530214Off the top of my head I can only think of an isekai'd ugly bastard breeding a loli thief until she's mindbroken if that's in your ballpark
>>712530315Ojisan Isekai
Mushoku Tensei
Drifters
The Eminence In Shadow (probably because I like protag, he is edgy and aware of this, also he is fucking lazy and clueless most of the time, I respect that)
Speaking of edgy:
Overlord
Tanya
Also, I find Konosuba genuinely funny.
>>712530608https://exhentai.org/g/2611360/9a6498d89c/
happy fapping then
>>712530315Inuyasha and Digimon Adventure
>>712525119Watch Escaflowne(tv series).
>>712530550>TanyaFFS WHERE is the next season? It was announced pre 'rona.
>>712530315Tensei Shite High Elf ni Narimashitaga, Slow Life wa 120-nen de Akimashita.
It's a story about some guy that gets reincarnated as an elf and just chills in a paradise for a little over a century before deciding to travel and learn about the world. It is very well written and does the perspective of someone with a long lifespan very well. The fact that he's reincarnated becomes so insignificant that you could easily forget about it. There are frequent timeskips and people he meets early on will grow old and die. It's a very good read but chapters come out extremely slowly.
>>712525963>That's because japs don't take the fantasy seriously.It's more like JRPGs have a monopoly on the genre in Japan and LNs know they can't seriously compete with the better ones in this department. I fucking hate the number statistics shit. Some LNs/Manga/Anime go on to explain it (which usually happens like 300 chapters in), but most don't and it's fucking aggravating
>>712527608It's boring as hell. Something crazy must happen in the later chapters of the LN for it to garnish such a fanbase, seasons 1 and 2 were boring and I dropped it there.
>>712530214There's both manga and h-doujins with that premise.
>>712525998It was always garbage with no plot or any thematic focus on anything. This is why nerd shit shouldnโt be published
>>712527608Same, I was bored to tears. And I usually love isekai slop
>>712530550I agreed with The Eminence In Shadow. Its peak parody that doesn't try hard like Konosuba and Overlord
>>712530713If the reincarnation or being put in another world doesnโt have a relevancy with the story or any plot points that adds up to the overall narrative then itโs badly written.
>>712524491 (OP)what's this? new ntr h-game?
>>712530214>>712530531>>712530760Here you go
Harem Ou no Isekai Press Manyuuki
>>712525217you've been saying that for 10 years
>>712527608>>712530753>>712530839The worldbuilding in it kinda ruins it because nothing is really all that interesting outside of the bad guy tomb and no one does anything interesting either.
The character designs of the women are great though.
>>712525998Shield hero had a decent start but it dropped the ball hard. They shouldn't have made the protagonist so powerful as an idividual when the whole point of his abillities was that he couldn't just brute force anything and had to get creative and rely on others. And making Rhaptalia the love interest felt weird. She should have stayed a kid and grow up more naturally.
Cultivation settings have a much better setup for being a game, despite isekai setting being based on game.
Because when you take away the 'cheat' aspect of isekai settings, they're for the most part painfully generic and reliant on game tropes which are overdone in games.
Cultivation settings are equally reliant on tropes, but those tropes are not game tropes and would not be overdone in the context of a game.
The problem for me is that so far cultivation games always take the sandbox approach, instead of the RPG approach.
>>712530925That's not ntr if ugly bastard is you.
>>712530925>he doesnt know about Is It Really, Truly Possible to Solo Heal with an Overlevelled Character in the Starting Area while Babysitting My Little Sister and also Eating a Bagel
>>712531051Are there any games that do cultivation well?
>>712527864>never trickedhe got tricked in the 3 kings arc, BBN got him good
>>712527931>I haven't checked the first oneDon't, it's pure frustration: the manga.
>>712530315Best isekai without you realizing it was Isekai
>>712524491 (OP)Nice, finally a MC that looks just like me.
>>712529348Campfire Cooking in Another World with My Absurd Skills, the Fruit of Evolution & My Instant Death Ability is So Overpowered.
>>712527812Danmachi is not an isekai. It's just fantasy.
>>712530681Based. One of the best isekai before tge whole genre was turned into a tired dead horse.
any other isekai where the isekai'd MC's life doesn't actually improve and gets cucked constantly?
>>712531339The instant death one was probably the most retarded isekai i've ever read. Felt like it was written by an edgy 13 year old.
>>712531126I can't think of any. The only game that's remotely related is Nine Sols, but it just has taoism which is related to cultivation without being cultivation.
>>712531306Henrietta should have won.
Everybody talks about Japanese Isekai and Chinese Cultivation novels being adapted to games, but what about Korean Hunterslop?
>>712531359Its called native isekai since the anime has game elements like dungeon, level, guild and stats
>>712531528>Native isekaiFucking retard, there is no such thing as native isekai. Isekai litterally means other world. No one is being transported anywhere so it's just fantasy. Get it through your thick skull you low IQ brown animal.
>>712531525>Korean HunterslopWhat did Witch Hunter do to you, anon?
>>712531650Kill yourself Fucking try hard
>>712531528>native isekaiMy Adventures on 4chan as a Bait (level 101/100) [Cheat User].
>>712531687I'm talking about all the stuff that's barely distinguishable from Solo Leveling, Seul Station Necromancer and so on.
Urban fantasy with game elements.
>>712531650Saying native isekai doesnโt exist is like saying delicious in dungeon is a cooking show
>>712524902Still better than "4 girls in a row doing activity with loads of yuribait but nothing ever really happens".
Most bottom of the barrel slop you could ever watch, they even post official fanart to show the writer's approved ships and there's always 4 girls so each girl always has a shipbait partner.
Then all it needs is a gay fucking insert corporation here (kirara) jump in the OP, and you have the average /a/ yuritranny's AOTS every season.
>>712531910I'm so glad I have no idea what any your verbal diarrhea means
Solo Levelling is SHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIITTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT
>>712532072It's literary diarrhea not verbal diarrhea, no words are being spoken out loud.
>>712528791>Shit like <native isekai>It's all the same trash.
>>712532118what else is new?
Isekai is just the amnesia of anime.
>>712527812strictly speaking only two out of them are isekai. Isekai literally means different world (or place if you want to be nitpicky).
>HestiaIsn't an isekai by any degree, also boring as fuck
>Overlordjust a dude playing a game and get kinda stuck in it
>Redo neither reborn nor in another world, he goes on a different timeline basically
Redo is some revenge edgekino hentai, but not particular good, just different enough
>Oshi no Koreborn, but same world. It's used as a weird utility and after a couple of episodes completely ignores the former lives. It's kinda weird when you think about the girl and the doc in theory being self aware as they pop out of their idols pussy.
made me post my own isekai comp
>>712532118True true, I also hate anime themed minecraft modpacks.
>>712524902Plenty of good normal fantasy.
>>712524491 (OP)Why is fantasy anime allowed to use banned Dragon Quest designs but Dragon Quest isn't?
>>712533319>Why is fantasy anime allowed to use banned Dragon Quest designs but Dragon Quest isn't?What do you mean? Also Zenshu is more of a tribute to terrible early 00s cheap DQ knockoffs than DQ itself.
Fuck magical fantasy settings, give me an mature anime based on Fallout or a postapocalyptic setting
>>712531910For real /a/ is so obviously full of trannies
>>712527812Uncle is literally me
>>712529587correct
t. a breeding oji-san
>>712533937This looks so dumb kek
Also irl kids go to the beach and see women with their tits out and nothing happens
>>712524491 (OP)>that isn't even how he originally looked>he was just a generic tall mc before being isekaiedWhy? What's the point of not having him start ugly?
>>712533595Nothing like this, I can give you this postapocalypse titles
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnLF9GRUppA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tux_u8BIfik
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIH38n1o6Kg (but don't watch second season)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUxSYkLcVC0
Kinda this, that's basically a local letal epidemic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHPfAB3eDGY
>>712532346Pic unrelated?
>>712527812Redo of Healer was the last anime I watched. Like it was so far above every other anime made up until that point, to the point that watching anything else feels disrespectful.
>>712524491 (OP)>Anti-isekai>After being isekai'd, the MC achieved ultimate glory and power over his foes>is super popular and has a harem>suddenly he gets pulled back into his original world>back to his friendless loser social recluse selfWould it be kino?
>>712534283>Highschool of the Dead>Desert Punk>Shikifuck I feel old now, damn....
>>712534617no?
i never understood why so many jap isekai want to go back to japan
sounds like political propaganda
>>712524902lol i was a isekai hater at first till i took the pill its pretty comfy as a genre
>>712534617Isekai Ojisan kinda like this.
>>712527812pic unrelated?
>>712534617Probably as a 1 shot.
You can generally tell if the story is gonna have some sort of twist/shock/downer ending by how bright, happy and hopeful the setup story is so people will see it coming from a mile away.
>>712528397the only correct opinion ITT. anime tourists (burgers who discovered it with toonami) are an embarrassment
>>712530243It lost its edge when it started focusing on boring isekai "adventures", instead of showing his everyday life in our world, and glimpses of the elf's one sided crush and his crippling autism.
>>712531126amazing cultivation simulator if you like Rimworld
>>712526087>Japs invented wizardry Which youtuber gave you this nonsense opinion, zoom-zoom?
>>712534617so isekai Ojisan?
You're right, it is kino
>>712530681It feels like Escaflowne was the only series that got mechas to move right. I never got into Gundam because the giant suits didn't feel like they moved several thousand tons.
>>712534292Bit generic but still good. The fight choreography alone pushes it above average.
>>712527353You are so much more hateful than the imagined enemies you're fighting.
>>712524491 (OP)I want to protect oji-san's smile.
>>712533595Girls' Last Tour (despite appearances) or Heavenly Delusion.
>>712530315Instant Death Ability (only manga though)
It's good because it embraces the fact that the genre is a garbage slop and makes fun of it, but at the same time has pretty cool meta worldbuilding and the main character's backstory.
the only japanese fantasy ive enjoyed recently is isekai ojisan, but the world is too shallow, and its literally just "look at all these cute western girls fawning over a hideous middle aged japanese man, haha!" which was fun at first, but it seems that was the limit of the story, it feels like its on life support now
>>712526087Wizardry is an american series inspired by early JRPGs
>>712535784give up elf
he is a japanese, he cant love
>>712532346>normal fantasy>look inside>exact same story beats and wish-fullfillment as isekaianon you ain't fooling anyone. We know you love native isekai
For me it's:
>central conflict is money/logistics
>the very first dude you save in Chapter 1 is the leader of the merchants guild (or his daughter) and he solves all of the dilemmas your cheat skills apparently can't
>>712535562Gundam takes place mostly in space, but you should give the original series a watch- it's got really good choreography.
>>712524491 (OP)Kill all fat hogs
I remember watching this civil servant is now the villainess anime and it seemed fun and light hearted. He was too polite to be a mean girl so everyone loves him (her) instead
>>712524935>cringy im so good at everything teehee mangacouldn't get past the first 4 chapters
>>712535832read Instant Death and it's also mostly generic trash, it's just powerscaler trash as opposed to the isekai trash it sets itself up as
"muh strongest dude ever that can end anything" protagonist has all the charisma of a wet paper towel as per usual and is so genuinely generic the anime went out of its way to try and give him something unique in his blue hair tips that still look retarded, the only redeeming factors are the premise of "eldritch being far beyond anything any mortal creature can fathom incarnates as a human and forms relationships and empathy" that is absolutely wasted on its genre and the guy's backstory
Do games truly dislike mature women?
>>712536337That's a lot of words to say you got filtered.
>>712536152this was suprisingly comfy and the MC had regular sex at least until his not daughter started to cockblock him.
>>712536337He's just farming his Sigma aura, nothing else
>>712524491 (OP)So what's the title of this animu and mango?
>>712531134>spring autumn cicada in you are path
>>712536430TL;DR
overhyped trash is still trash
>/isekai/ leaking again
be careful anons the rabid seanigger from /a/ will be roaming around soon
>>712534617Hero Has Returned
It's a reverse isekai battle royale x Groundhog Day. You might think that it's a dumb edgy trash with idiotic motivations while reading the first few arcs, but the story is pretty brilliant in retrospective. The arc that starts at chapter 61 completely changes how you perceive it.
>>712534617Add a character that somehow follows the MC back to his world, make them have sex daily and I'll watch it.
>>712535961>exact same story beats and wish-fullfillment as isekaiGuy gets hired as a teacher, a woman secretly loves him and he's tasked with mentoring a kid?
Not exactly isekai power fantasy slop.
>>712524491 (OP)is this the one where he goes around fucking everything?
Is there an isekai where the protag becomes a villain that isn't power fantasy shit? I feel like there's potential in a story where the protaganist hates the fact he isn't in his own world.
>>712536318The MC is mediocre to bad at most things and get shit on because a lot, the fuck are you talking about
>>712534852Comfy like having a smooth brain.
You can enjoy anything if you just lower your standards.
>>712536703Digimon
They don't fuck their Digimon, not even Gomamon, but they do jump back and from the digital world
>omg i hate isekai
You don't hate isekai, you hate shit writing
>>712536934>where the protaganist hates the fact he isn't in his own world.No Longer Allowed in Another World did the second part.
>>712536823Nah, this guy can't even touch girls at all.
Don't know what the point of that is.
>>712537108maybe they don't but Gomamon is my partner and I can confirm all the massive amounts of sex I have with him regularly
Every fucking time someone goes "No no, it may be isekai but this one is actually pretty good!" it's the exact same shit as everything else.
Not a one if you isekai watchers has a modicum of taste.
>>712533984For a lot of kids a big, milky boob is one of the first things they come into contact with. Before that it's a vagina.
>>712529348The one with the 2 business men but one turned into a girl
>>712537369the only isekai Ive like was Records of the Highserk War which may as well be a regular fantasy novel
>>712537369How can you tell they are exactly the same if you don't even watch them?
>>712536337>eldritch beingThis alone tell me you got filtered
I swear i saw an anime where Isekai'd people return to earth and they're forced to attend some sort of
"Isekai'd Academy" (kek)
Also remembered there being heavy fan service and the MC isn't your typical loser Nippon beta male.
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>>712536318are you sure you're reading the same manga
>>712524902There's nothing wrong with them in theory, considering how many well loved stories are Isekais like Peter Pan, Alice in Wonderland, Wizard of Oz, ect. Execution is what matters
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>>712524491 (OP)>>712524902nu tranime iz garbage and cringel
>>712524491 (OP)Nah I wanna be a skeleton or undead healer
>>712536708>oh nooo i feel like i'm an insignificant person but this harem of fantasy girls keep telling me i'm actually amazing! don't worry, i never believe them though, i know i'm just average!yeah, that plots NEVER been done before...
>>712537483Why? You could describe the protagonist this way.
>powerscaler trashIs what tells me he didn't enjoy the satire. The whole setting is a generic isekai world filled with generic secretly overpowered MCs on a generic quest to slay the demon lord, and the MC has to constantly endure this shit.
>>712537471>Bro just give it a try! This one is actually good!>watch it>it's bad>No, no bro, try this one, this other one os actually good>it's the same shit>again>and again>and againSomething tells me you isekai tards do this exact thing and then get Stockholmed into actually enjoying it.
I don't need to watch a whole fucking season to be able to tell it's generic slop.
PLEASE develop taste.
>>712528156Sure ain't getting anything like record of lodoss war or an animated Berserk series anytime soon again
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>>712537852Based skeleton bro
>>712537523this one?
https://mangadex.org/title/900b1790-4d86-4030-b410-00db69df4771/the-hero-trained-by-the-worst-demon-king-is-unrivaled-in-the-school-of-returnees-from-another-world
>>712537369there are good ones, but yes, every time a new one gets announced there's at least one retard who says its good regardless of how shit it is. I remember reading and dropping the Lvl 9999 infinite gacha one so fucking fast, but right away its announcement thread had random faggots trying to convince people it was good.
>>712537846they should upgrade the vending machine topic to an UFO catcher.
What do you usually name your characters in video games?
>>712537369the only good izekai is konozuba it doesnt look like isekai at all
>>712528867because men don't operate the same as women, men who are willing to put in the effort would rather try to elevate themselves to look closer to the cool attractive dude on screen
the women who are bitching about "representation" are the polar opposite of this, they cannot be fucked to improved themselves in any way so they would rather drag fictional characters down to their level
tl;dr if you're a fat fuck and you are happy you're represented in OP's anime slop you are literally woman brained
>>712537852Ok, but you will turn into a skeleton ghost thing that looks like a regular fleshie human because your class changes from getting enough level ups.
>>712529235>You know whatโs worse than breaking up with your girlfriend? Being stuck with her prize-winning show cat. And you know whatโs worse than that? An alien invasion, the destruction of all man-made structures on Earth, and the systematic exploitation of all the survivors for a sadistic intergalactic game show. Thatโs what.>Join Coast Guard vet Carl and his ex-girlfriendโs cat, Princess Donut, as they try to survive the end of the worldโor just get to the next levelโin a video gameโlike, trap-filled fantasy dungeon. A dungeon thatโs actually the set of a reality television show with countless viewers across the galaxy. Exploding goblins. Magical potions. Deadly, drug-dealing llamas. This ainโt your ordinary game show.video games were a mistake
>>712538051List the isekai anime you watched and what they were about
You did watch some, right?
>>712527812saitou is the only really good one here
uncle isn't objectively bad but it's just sad
redo is for edgelords; the protag, despite being justified in his revenge is so over the top ridiculous that it's not entertaining
overlord is fine but it's so fucking slow and literally nothing happens for dozens of chapters at a time
oshi is okay but not for me
danmachi isn't isekai and it's just okay
the only isekai i've watched is re:zero back in 2016 and I thought it was okay, what do I watch next?
>>712538351Is there something wrong with your S key? I watched Konosuba, it's trash. I watched re:zero, it's trash. The only way to say [x] isekai series is good is to put up with trash.
>>712538532legend of the galactic heroes
then stop watching anime altogether
>>712538582>Konosuba, it's trashkonosuba is humour
of corse is trash
the good kind
you guys are a bunch of jaded faggots who hate fun. Watch Sword Dad, it's fun.
>>712524902isekai is based
VRmmo and reincarnation isn't isekai though
>>712538616already done. it was a good run, time to retire
>>712529432>the mc is a unlikable pervert that never grows up as a personI honestly like this because it's who he was in his previous life. You can see him struggling to not be that person because he got a chance to reincarnate but inside he is still a fat hikki from Japan, even if he looks like a normal kid from that world. It's something that comes up a lot more in the more recent chapters, especially when he's dealing with one of his sisters.
A lot of isekai MCs just become totally different people upon reincarnation. It's like they preserve their memories but none of the personality. They go from a complete loser to this incredibly intelligent, charismatic and brave person instantly. Very few stories actually seem to give a shit about the MC's original negative attributes other than "he is lazy" which means nothing when he still saves the day every time.
>>712536969>>712537552>first panelnon of you fags read the manga
isekai is to anime as gacha is to gaming
>>712538447Konosuba, Re:Zero, Is It Wrong to Pickup Girls [...], No Game No Life, Overlord, even shit that "isn't technically isekai (but totally still is)" like Frieren or Dungeon Meshi or whatever the fuck else. They're all such an enormous waste of time and none of them should ever even be in your top 20 anime.
>>712538138Nah, it's not that
It was in anime format
Nvm found it.
>>712529235>Only Western fantasy novel adapted of their own free will was by a 60 year old Australian womanSorry Reddit.
>>712538859>"isn't technically isekai (but totally still is)">lists fantasyretard
>>712538934Fantasy that just so happens to have the same exact atmosphere and worldbuilding of every other Isekai. The literal only thing that's missing is a scene at the beginning of someone getting hit by a truck.
I've heard it all before. Please die.
>>712538375No flesh bones forever
>>712538815stagnation and sudden change
both are wrong, yet, change can be more reasonable when you stop having a sick body/life/worries, that one mc that see himself a fat need in japan is so out of touch with a real person that is stupid, even the most autistic retard react to changes in their life at some point
>>712538160the thing is, even shitty isekai manage to have their moments, but its usually at the start, some somehow survive just based on starting out good.
The suicidal isekai guy was neat, but the joke runs dry after a few episodes and to pad it you get mini story arcs for completely different characters. The vending machine thing is pretty much the same thing.
Shield Hero started out rather dark until he turned into another overpowered characters with a harem.
Tensei Shittara was enjoyable when he started out building his empire and then also became a boring overpowered harem.
It's like those stories were made for just 3 episodes, but stretched out to 12 multiplied by multiple seasons with no ending in sight. You know every Isekai that teases a roundtable of boss enemies isn't going to tell a compelling story, just trying to run as long as possible.
>>712539035Do you need to be reminded to breathe by your handler from how retarded you are
>>712539035>isekai copies generic fantasy setting>generic fantasy continues to be made>anon: IT'S TOTALLY ISEKAI GUYSIsekai yourself faggot.
>>712538859>even shit that "isn't technically isekai (but totally still is)" like Frieren or Dungeon MeshiRetard.
>>712539035yes tell me how dungeon meshi has the same atmosphere than isekai i'm waiting
>>712537523Saw that years ago. Dropped it after the puss fetish episode.
>>712538859I bet you watch marvel movies
>>712539102does he/she gets preggo at some point to replenish the lose of life?
if not, its trash
>>712539076no arguments here, most Isekai have a premise, then the MC grows too strong for the premise, and the story fall apart. they're often still fun for the duration of up to like 4 volumes of the LN, by which point they either die or got popular and just run on and on and on with no real direction.
>>712539035>isekais use bog standard fantasy writing tropes to build the world>now fantasy is just isekai without the isekai partretard
>>712524491 (OP)no, gamers actually want this
>>712528027>actual colossal piece of shit would probably be displayed in art galleries now
>>712538532go though all the popular isekai slop
sword art online
reincarnated as a slime
shield hero
mushoku tensei
other rezero adaptations
all the other ones that make an appearance in isekai quartet
>>712528187Kurosawa was fucking phenomenal but it was completely ruined by the sequel
>>712527812I really ended up loving uncle, shame that the anime didnt get a good quality treatment but the manga is great.
>>712539035neither frieren nor dungeon meshi are anything like isekai
i'll give you the term "native isekai" when it's a fantasy story with a bunch of overt video game mechanics (gear with stats, classes, leveling, etc.) but neither of those series have anything even remotely resembling any such mechanic
>>712527812They're all horrid because they're dogshit made/written for repulsive, subhuman, pathetic, loser, failed-males who need to be tied down by their necks, and repeatedly stomped on their heads with steel-toe boots until their brain-matter leaks out. Said demographic of "people" roam 4chan in large numbers so it's not unexpected that "people" here love this embarrassing fucking loser garbage.
>>712529235John Carter Remaster?
>>712538901there are multiple, Earthsea. Even Jayden Smith has his own anime.
>>712539141>>712539149I've heard. It all. Before.
Like I said, it's "not technically isekai" because the initial context isn't present, but in all other ways it is the same shit. But all of that is completely irrelevant because the topic at hand is how isekai is not worth watching.
But you dumb isekai fags kneejerk predictably and hyper fixate on one inconsequential aspect of the post.
>>712539212>You don't watch eastern slop? I bet you like western slop!No retard, I don't.
>>712539439wasn't made for white people
>>712524491 (OP)โThe janitor grooms my little sister in the dungeonโ
>all those faggots complaining about isekai but only watch the anime
>>712524902fpbp
Wading through the constant isekai slop is why I stopped browsing through manga. Doesn't help that 99% of everything the chinese and koreans put out also sucks in general. Exhausting.
>>712539649>animeonlys are subhumanwhat else is new
>>712539525>heard it all before>learning disability prevents him from understanding Tragic, your life as a total fucking retard must be rough.
>>712538859>even shit that "isn't technically isekai (but totally still is)" like Frieren or Dungeon MeshiAre you fishing for (you)s or are you just genuinely retarded.
>>712539593Sure you don't
>>712539649you know manga piracy has been dead for years right? How else are these retards exposed to it
>>712539525>not technically isekaithere is no "technically", it's just not isekai
there is no reincarnation
there is no other world
it is fantasy, not isekai
you are stupid
>>712539721first day on /v/? lots of anons come here in hopes of getting the older male attention they never received in their childhood in the form of (You)s.
>>712539797elden ring is isekai though
>>712525963Bullshit, the reason isekai is so stupid popular over there is because the nips literally wish it would happen to them. It is pure wish fulfillment slop on par with mary sues.
>>712539797there is not harem
>>712528397>We got powerpuff girls at home
>>712539649Pretty much this, its crazy how better the light novels are which of course make sense cause they are the source in the first place. Ever since I got a pocketbook and started reading, it is hard for me to watch the anime versions of it because of how much content was skipped or just downright changed.
>>712539035The shows you're describing exist. The examples you used are not that.
>>712539753Weird, I read new pirate manga every day. And most isekai are LN first, boyo.
>>712539858this is some fail analysis. It's like saying americans want to be cops because of all the crime dramas on tv
>>712539924I wanna fuck that fairy.
>>712539721Are you intentionally missing the forest for the trees or do you just really like the bark?
>>712539924im a gamer and i dont want hoes
i want love, handholding, romance and a loyal waifu to make a big family
>>712539753>manga piracy has been dead for years right?nigga what are you talking about
mangadex (rip), mangafire and about 1 trillion other sites host literally everything that's scanned
the only shit not getting scanned is the absolute bottom of the barrel that nobody is willing to put the effort into, which has always been the case
>>712539924Which one has a schlong
>>712539924I want to fuck Crim's tight angel pussy and jerk her off with my hand at the same time.
>>712540018Who asked? Again, wasn't made for non-japanese
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>>712539924why is she so hot despite being a literal used up whore
>>712539976Are cop dramas all about the average loser inexplicably being transported onto george floyd's neck and women wetting themselves over it?
>>712540079the angel and the hyena.
>>712540137it's the eyes. iirc the mushroom whore was similarly sexy.
>>712540034cool, 90% of the scanlation is on hiatus because all the translators either left, got hired by crunchyroll, or just translate the popular shit
>>712530315El Hazard
Escaflowne
Rayearth
>>712528334akame ga kill was good
just too edgelordy
the other 2 are gross lol
>>712540034He's probably an EOP
>>712539237That's what I said. Everyone just wants to be the next Shield Hero, Slime, Re:Zero.
Take the Cautious Hero, its one of the few that did the overpowered mechanic relatively well, he still faces some enemies that seem like a threat and the story manages to conclude in one season. A story that actually moved forward and finished.
However it probably makes less money than my mom goes adventuring with me, a completely forgettable anime but now millions jerk off over the milf. There are probably more Rem figurines than people that watched Re:Zero.
I heard they even want to make a new season of the Cautious Hero, even though the story left no room for continuation except for the sake of just continuation.
>>712539924When are they bringing this back? I miss pure comedy ecchii and this one was really well made.
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>>712524491 (OP)Genshin Impact and Wuthering Waves
>>712540137What's the max schlong size she can take?
>>712540281why would you pirate manga if you're not an EOP? You're still sitting there waiting for shit to get scanned instead of just buying it yourself lmao
>>712539750I don't. Do you want me to goad me into defending Marvel trash or something? Good fucking luck. Capeshit is no less trashy than isekai.
>>712539797Yes technically. Because in all ways other than the initial context, said shows are isekais. They have all the same genre conventions, all the design trends and character archetyes and cliches.
Technically not an isekai.
But may as well be.
But as stated before, this entire sub-conversation is ENTIRELY irrelevant to the topic at hand, which is that isekai is boring trash no matter how much isekai fags insist "this is the one you should really watch".
>>712540383i wouldn't worry about it, you'll be fine
>>712540129I asked him because he's a man of integrity and taste.
>>712539976The execution and purpose is entirely different. America's obsession with cops and crime is it's own separate bag of worms.
>>712539924that furry bitch knotted every single person in that image btw
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>>712538872oh alrite then
>>712540407The same reason you pirate games, to not pay for them
>>712539649>not having listened to the authors idea pitch before he even wrote the story>>712539721isekai has dominated classic medieval fantasy for so long people really start thinking this is isekai
>>712530315Now and Then, Here and There
>>712540407>why would you pirate when you can buyfuck, how come i never thought of that
>>712540558yeah bro, just be 3 volumes behind and be okay with spoilers as long as you don't have to pay for anything. Sneaking suspicion that you're the actual eop here
>>712539829>isekai watched trying to act like he isn't a broccoli headed twerpThat's rich.
I was on 4chan when you were barely potty trained.
>>712525998>30+ autistic loser virgin who was bullied all his life>not going into a depressive slump after the only girl that loved him immediately abandons him
For isekai, anime is better than the source because they usually end after one or two seasons before the story goes to absolute shit
>>712539525I don't even watch isekai, but your claim that 100% fantasy shows with zero isekai elements are "not technically isekai" is completely retarded and invalidates any opinions you have about media.
To put it in vidya terms, it's like calling escape from tarkov "technically not a battle royale" because you loot items and shoot players inside of a map, ignoring all of the differences like not having to kill anyone to "win", not having to be the last one standing, and not having the map shrink on you. They're not the same genre despite them having some similarities.
>>712539997sorry, only small dick chads get a taste of farussy
>>712539924nobody wants this
go back to r3ddit
i just watch games with cute anime girls that are like
prettty without being weirdo coomer shit
>>712540559I wouldn't call all medieval fantasy pseudo isekai though. It's the setting characters, and writing that make it one. Ranking of Kings isn't, for instance.
>>712540756lol, i've probably been an unemployed NEET longer than you've been alive.
>>712540820Christ alive you autists are obsessive. I do not care about this conversation. Talk about the main point or kill yourself.
>>712530315Kemono Friends because somehow it tricks you into thinking it's an isekai when in reality Kaban-chan is just a sexy baby.
Also Now and Then, Here and There for making me angry about a bitch deciding to raise her rape baby in the insanely shitty grimdark isekai world.
>>712540969>please talk about my fundamentally flawed main point and stop pointing out how retarded i amretard
>>712540912>1 minute and no responsei won the argument
>>712525998>Reincarnated as a slime sucked the moment the goblins were transformed into hobgoblins (green humans).I agree but still decided to follow it. It did not get any better and when finally something happened where a bunch of villagers and the big titty horn girl died i assumed "hey characters are actually dying" just for the MC to revives the big titty horn girl and everybody else like nothing ever happened and they kept adding more characters to the bunch so i gave up.
>>712541036That wasn't the main point you mongoloid.
>>712541042sure lil bro. i'm feeling nice so i'll continue to give you attention, i can't replace your absent father though, sorry.
>>712537114>the reincarnation/another world angle didnโt add anything to the story at all>it only exists because the target audience is too retarded to self-insert in a straight fantasy story and has to be beat over the head with itNo, I hate Isekai
>>712528397>Read a bit of Rayearth>Characters aren't immediately going "OMG THIS IS JUST LIKE MY FAVORITE FANTASY MANGA" when they get isekai'dSoul
>>712541148you know what i'm sorry for shitposting i've just been having a rough day. have a nice day.
>>712530315alice in wonderland
space jam
a kid in king arthur's court
pleasantville
isekai smartphone
konosuba
campfire cooking
realist hero
isekai restaurant
>>712541130Your main point isn't worth discussing when you can't differentiate between normal fantasy and isekai.
>>712539492Why do people here routinely talking about how they're better than everyone else then?
>>712541196Alright, you have a good one too.
>>712527812I haven't watched redo but from the replies I can only assume it's Elfen Lied for zoomers.
>>712530297>>712530315Think it's just cause the game still doesn't have that many weeks,but i'm sure we'll get more poc characters soon enough
>>712541308Yeah, pretty much
>>712541167It's often used as an excuse for the MC to have special powers and for the MC to love the shit out of the eventual definitely not Japanese town with definitely not Japanese foods. Other than that they are often just fantasy stories
>>712540410Dungeon meshi have nothing of what you're saying.
>>712541308it's a rape fantasy show for women, not even joking
>>712530315Hai to Gensou no Grimgar waz cute
expedition33 is isekaislop?