Thread 712545857

Better graphics and framerate than PS4, in a handheld
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7fExZx1QyU

Nintendo won baby. Imagine a Monolith game on Switch 2

sony will rip off another nintendo idea and make a hybrid console soon, right?

>>712545857 (OP)
Also somehow better textures than Xbox S

ps4 is built on 2012 tablet hardware, it took nintendo two attempts and 13 years to surpass it.

>>712545905
You mean the psp go or the game gear?

>>712545857 (OP)
>Monolith game on Switch 2
It would look the same as a switch cause unlike Pokemon they are using current gen.

>>712545905
Why would they bother, they’re making money hand over fist with GAAS on PS5 and the Switch 2 just cemented they have no competition in graphics or performance from other consoles for another decade at least.
Of course I said the same thing about the PS Portal which remains the dumbest thing I’ve ever seen, and not only does that exist but I’ve seen people buy it with my own eyes and not immediately return it the next day.

>>712545857 (OP)
>better performance than a 13 years old console

>>712545857 (OP)
I don't need to apologize because I always believed in them

>>712546487
>It would look the same as a switch cause unlike Pokemon they are using current gen.
wat

monolith made this on xbox 360 hardware so it's interesting what they do with a system 3 times stronger

>>712546374
>You mean the psp go or the game gear?
no, like the switch

>>712547892
Probably the same honestly, but this time it would run at 4K instead of 240p

>>712548140
Chinese or Japanese?

>>712548305
nigger (average sony customer)?

>>712545857 (OP)
I won't watch digital cuck video. Let me guess everyone will talk about some frame dip in some area that has heavy CPU load or something and because of that the game is unplayable and unfixable in a patch.

>main testing done in docked mode
>doesn't show framerate in portable mode because of "tools"
>as low as 360p in portable mode vs 720p lowest on ps4

That doesn't really sound like a handheld winning if you have to ignore its main feature for better performance than a PS4

>>712548943
How does PS4 perform in handheld mode?

>>712548417
it's a king of the hill quote my friend

>>712545905
I mean there are some rumors with some specs already of a new Sony handheld but who knows when they will actually release it. It will have the same problems as the switch 2 though.
>A third of PS5's bandwidth
>AI to upscale graphics but it's AMD
>16gb of ram

>>712549426
are you going to compare apples to apples or not? OP said handheld. If it's in docked mode then yes I will agree it beats the PS4 but you put it in handheld and you're not going to win

>>712549426
Gottem

>>712545857 (OP)
switch version is heavily nerfed compared to ps4 version.

>>712545857 (OP)
Cyberpunk was released broken on all systems and the PS4 version never received any fixes.

>>712545857 (OP)
OK I just ordered a Switch 2. You won shills.

>>712545857 (OP)
DF is a snoy channel

>>712545857 (OP)
the ps4 is a 13 year old console...

>>712545857 (OP)
if it can run cyberpunk it can run anything

>>712552048
>if it can run cyberpunk it can run anything

Pretty much this.

>>712552048
>if it can run a ps4 game at 360p it can run anything
lol

>>712552048
i have an old 1070 pc that can run cyberpunk, it isn't actually that difficult to do with all the optimization settings it has if you use upscaling, it's only demanding if you turn on all the ray/path tracing and shit

>>712552238
Come on nigga Cyberpunk is one of the most demanding games of the generation. The 2.0 wouldn't even run on PS4. And it can't even run properly on PS5 and Xbox Series X without drawbacks.

>>712545857 (OP)
That video shows exactly the hardware situation.
The PS4 hard drive, dogshit CPU and small memory makes it inferior to the switch, and the SeS tiny memory was a mistake, but it still has a better CPU.

But what i was not expecting is how fucking terrible the hard drive situation is on cyberpunk 2077.
I was under the impression devs scaled down stuff to fit on the PS4 slowass storage, but CP2077 is probably too much for it.

>>712553149
The game is very scalable. If you turn off npcs and use ridiculous upscaling then it‘ll even run on a toaster, as evidenced by the switch port

Ps4 is old as fuck. At least compare it to Series S.

>>712553592
Switch 2 is better than the PS4 and worse than the Series S

>>712552196
The lowest it hits is 480p on portable 40 FPS mode.
On the 30 FPS modes it pretty much runs at the same resolutions as the PS4, but looks better because DLSS is better than the TAA shit used on the PS4.
And on CPU intense shit, it trounces the PS4.

>>712553592
The video compares to the Xbox Series S too.
The switch 2 looks sharper and has better textures due more memory and DLSSlop, but CPU wise it gets trounced by the SeS.
It's a situation where the switch 2 has twice the CPU power of the PS4, and the Xbox SeS has twice the CPU power of the switch 2

Phantom liberty would unironically run at 10 FPS on the PS4.

>ps4
bingers are desperate

>>712553913
>The lowest it hits is 480p on portable 40 FPS mode.
???

>>712554010
Ah fuck, i see.
Stand corrected.

>>712545857 (OP)
>Digital Foundry
Why do people pay attention to them again? They literally said that Cyberpunk wasn't using any form of DLSS and Switch 2's DLSS wouldn't be powerful enough for general use.

>>712554010
why the fuck are people boasting about 640x360?

>>712554136
As far i remember they said DLSS over 1080p was not useful.
But yes, they're wrong on both accounts.

>>712554504
It's a "we pick the worst and say it's constantly that resolution".
Which in the case of cyberpunk is false.

But a fact on Fast fusion

>>712552196
The thing is PS4 can't run a PS4 game

>>712554136
Why do tendies think every gaming news outlet has it out for nintendo?

The SW2 version seems like a mix of the PS4 and Series S versions.
Which I guess makes the the PS4 Pro comparison kind of apt in this instance, at least on the CPU/memory side of things.

>>712554643
Ok? How the switch runs current games like expedition 33, doom dark ages etc is going to say a lot more about how viable the hardware is going to be going forward

>>712554707
CPU wise the switch 2 CPU is still faster than the PS4 pro one.
But memory wise and DLSSLOP vs raw power etc is probably more appropriate.

>>712554776
No idea, how about wait when those games release for the platform?

>>712554707
The SW2's shadows seem to be lower quality than the Steam Deck preset on PC, which somehow isn't just everything smacked to the lowest possible settings.

>>712554675
But I didn't say that. Don't put words in my mouth.
>Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity

Someone here said that the SW2's 20 FPS performance in Phantom Liberty is identical to the other current consoles, which turns out is a giant fucking lie.

>>712545857 (OP)
>another nintendork trying to justify his $500 purchase

AHAHAHSHAHSH

>>712545857 (OP)
Welcome to 2014, Nintendo! Congrats!

>>712555253
You don't need to have a console to defend a console.
It's just interesting to see how things go.

>>712545857 (OP)
>Nintendo won baby. Imagine a Monolith game on Switch 2
why would I ever play a monolith game? That's like asking me to play Uncharted or TLOU.

>>712547892
>it's interesting what they do with a system 3 times stronger
more ui icons

Who cares? who the fuck are all these people who play handheld games?????? playing games outside the home is bizarre.

>>712555253
Just say you're broke

>>712555523
With 4k resolution (on the menus, game will run at 180p with checkerboarding to 360p and DLSSlop to 4k and a sharpen filter to make the defects even more obvious, given the track record of this company), they will be able to shove even more ui icons and bars!

>>712555158
That's now how a fair comparison is done.

A fair comparison would need to compare the entire game in both consoles and give the result based the overall experience.

>>712555714
It's the same area, of course it's a fair comparison.

>>712555547
I’d rather spend it on 5 whores at the strip club than buy the paper weight 2.

>>712555775
Phantom Liberty is not made of only this area

>>712555526
Everyone is bizarre now, i can't take the subway without watching half of it playing games on the phones or watching anime.
And i'm on a third world country. i imagine that some first world country subways almost have a funko pop collection.

>>712545857 (OP)
https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/cpu/3218520

>>712545857 (OP)
Amazing, Nintendo paid for one game to be better optimized than a 15 year old console only for it to gigabomb!

>>712554626
dogtown disagrees with you

>>712556060
That's a blue board, don't post gore

>>712555840
It's a moot point because this area is a worst-case scenario for both platforms.

>>712545905
>>712549549
The issue with a new PSP is that there's no software that makes it particularly valuable compared to a Steam Deck or Switch 2. It just becomes a PC handheld shackled to the console ecosystem but with no exclusives

>>712552037
And the Switch 2 is mobile hardware that's less than 1/3 of the size of a PS4 Slim

>>712545857 (OP)
>See see? It beat a device from 2013 (12 years ago) according to the outlet nobody trusts
>Please call my purchase based. Please please. I beg you :'(

>>712556847
I'm not getting one, but i do find very interesting to see where the cheap mobile technology got to.

>>712551838
i know it's a leftoid channel but snoy? well i guess the two are synonyms

So I guess there is finally no more excuse for not giving us the Zelda we actually want instead of fisher price Fortnite shit (that doesn't even have the artistic value and novelty of a Wind Waker)

>>712557720
NTA, but they slurped the PS5 Pro so hard, they claimed it matched the RTX 4070 (they would retract it and only very sneakily admit the pro doesn't even match the RX 6800 in one silent Elden Ring comparison) and got exclusive behind-the-scenes access to slurp some more. They also comparted frame gen to non-frame gen, implying it was real performance yet refusing to talk about input lag.

>>712545905
They already did that Portal thing which fucking bombed and doesn't work

>>712557949
It's not a hardware issue, it's a "we want the casual audience" issue.

>>712557949
>no more excuse
There shouldn't be. Switch 2 can easily run Witcher 3 at max settings, No realistic fantasy game needs more fidelity than that to look good + Nintendo voodoo.

>>712559885
>It's not a hardware issue
OK buddy.

>>712560073
The WiiU zelda demo is not as nearly as heavy as the witcher 3.
It's basically a Xbox 360 game with good non-brown and bloom art.
A zelda made in that detail levels and art style would be pretty great and better than botW, and the switch could pull that off.

>>712560549
>The WiiU zelda demo is not as nearly as heavy as the witcher 3.
Certainly looks better than the Switch version.

Lmao

>>712555026
now look above the ground

>>712560989
It's because its not as heavy.
You can can push more pixels if you're not doing a shitload of pseudo-raytraced effects and all that.
The art is doing all the job there.

>>712562036
see
>>712555158

>>712562358
>>712562036
60fps>less shitty graphics

This would be an interesting battle in 2013.

>>712562304
>You can can push more pixels if you're not doing a shitload of pseudo-raytraced effects and all that.
That's what that Zelda demo looks to be doing, Witcher 3 is pretty primtive tech-wise.

You'd have to be insane to believe Nintendo not doing a realistic Zelda in 20 years has nothing to do with their consoles being weak (exactly since they stopped making said realistic Zeldas) anyway.

I've been playing CP2077 around 15 hours now on Switch 2, around lvl 25. Never had any issues. Just the normal buggy CP2077, people still go under the floor or ground sometimes.

>>712563423
>I purposely bought a buggy, unplayable mess just to own the snoys

>>712562812
>hat's what that Zelda demo looks to be doing,
Not really, just look a bit closer, and in realtime:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGSKW4d1kbI

The reflection is just an ol planar reflection, ambient occlusion is all painted in (if you see on the rocks behind there's no ambient occlusion at all), and in terms of shaders is just normal map and specular.
There is depth shadows as well, but other than that, it's just not a big deal at all.

Also this is running on the WiiU.

>>712561476
>0 crowd density on the brick 2
LOL

>>712562036
meanwhile back to reality

>>712556709
all meaningless because it will remain docked 99% of the time

>>712564648
It's the PS4 crowd density settings.
By what i seem on the video, ideally, they can increase the crowd density of the base game, and should decrease the crowd density of phantom liberty, as it is hammering the CPU hard.
Base game settings is made for a CPU with half of the speed and phantom liberty is made for a CPU with twice the speed.

>>712564745
this video is anti-semitic

>>712564848
>it will remain docked 99% of the time
There is another good reason for that

>>712565046
hearthy kek

But why use an Image of switch 1?

>>712564906
We already know pajeet hate nintendo, for some reasons.

>>712564848
That confuses me. Why would you flaunt something being portable, but give it atrocious battery life? I can literally squeeze more battery life out of my old PSP. Which still works. AND the build quality is better with the hall effect stick it has.

>>712545857 (OP)
the ps4 came out over 10 years ago unc

>>712563897
You said pseudo and the important point is:
>You'd have to be insane to believe Nintendo not doing a realistic Zelda in 20 years has nothing to do with their consoles being weak (exactly since they stopped making said realistic Zeldas) anyway.
No one cares about that specific Zelda tech demo.

>>712565287
>We already know pajeet shill nintendo
FTFY

Daily reminder that the Switch 2 sold more in 5 days than the steam deck did in 3 years

>>712565391
No, they really hate Nintendo, for some reasons.

I'm not a switch boughter and I mostly don't give a fuck about console wars, but there is a fact that pajeets absolutely hate Nintendo, for some reasons.

>>712565506
LMAO

>>712565527
Sure Sukhdeep.

no more toon slop zelda i hope

>>712565527
hello patel, how is the weather in mumbai?

>>712565287
Because most are pc gamers. It’s hard to get nintendo hardware in India

>>712565527
India makes 90% of Nintendo's 1st party games lol sure they hate them

Pajeets love the playstation so much. Its one of the only countries where the PS5 out sold the switch

>>712565948
Kek Sukhdeep, you are exposed.

>>712545857 (OP)
>Mfw I bought 12 years old hardware for 500$

>>712565527
>I'm not a switch boughter
Really not beating the allegations.

>>712547892
>1080p native
No it fucking didn't lmao

>>712545857 (OP)
so, like a 3 year old steam deck?