Thread 712555324

why are liminal spaces so scary?

They're not, zoomers are just cringe and retarded.

because you are saying they are

>>712555324 (OP)
because they never show the sky or the sun or anything, it's all ventilated air and no sunshine. it mentally reminds you of being in such a subtly suffocating shit-space.

holy frick the floor seems very slippery

>>712555406
>zoomers out of nowhere

>>712555645
no running allowed

>>712555324 (OP)
You want the reason? You're not prepared for it.
Spaces like these are supposed to be filled regularly by large groups of genetically similar people with a shared goal.
The subway system exists to move these like-minded people to the places where the contribute to the success of their race and nation.
Stadiums exist to showcase the greatest physical feats of the nation.
Schools educate the statesman and artisans of the next generation.
Factories and refineries produce good of such quality that you would be honored to receive one as a gift.
What you see in a 'liminal space' is the consequence of an evil force destroying this shared bloodline and goal to the point where the accomplishments of the prior generation sit unused and decaying.
TL/DR jews

>>712555324 (OP)
I just had a realization that it might not be just the empty space aspect but about the "being lost in an infinite labarynthoid structure" aspect

>>712555762
No it's definitely being in the middle of an empty room that's scary

>>712555324 (OP)
Its an area of transition and this egg isnt ready to hatch

>>712555324 (OP)
because you're a delicate snowflake who only went outside for the first time aged 23

>>712555757
>Spaces like these are supposed to be filled regularly by large groups of genetically similar people with a shared goal.
>The subway system exists to move these like-minded people to the places where the contribute to the success of their race and nation.
Stadiums exist to showcase the greatest physical feats of the nation.
>Schools educate the statesman and artisans of the next generation.
>Factories and refineries produce good of such quality that you would be honored to receive one as a gift.

Familiar yet uncanny, same deal with faces.

>>712555324 (OP)
Check out some abandoned places and you'll get it.
Liminal Space stuff also has the surreal as a major element, which is pretty appropriate for the current time.

I'm on observation duty with the camera format is better than walking sim format.

>>712555701
>the zoomer instantly strikes out in anger from the intense embarrassment
Sad, many such cases.

>>712555324 (OP)
this game was fun but too short

>>712555324 (OP)
NOOOOOO!!! IS THAT A HECKIN CORRIDOR?!?!
WHERE DOES IT GO TO?! WHAT LIES IN WAIT FOR ME?!?!
SAVE ME MOMMMY!!!!

>>712555324 (OP)
They arent, youre a faggot who is taken back to a time where you momentarily fot separated from your mom, and now regular ass empty spaces spook you.

>>712555324 (OP)
Why is the ceiling so high

I once had a key from my school and got in at night. I walked around for a while and it was very uncomfortable. I think the brain is trained with "people are supposed to be here" fucks up with the perception and creates eerie atmosphere from the mundane set in unusual presentation.

You people really will argue about anything

Nobody thinks liminal spaces are scary on their own.
Hint of a threat is scary. Fear of the unknown is scary.
Liminal spaces are just nice because we're forced to be hyper social work rats 24/7 and being in a space with no noise or people is relaxing for most and makes some people anxious because of how they were conditioned.
Beaches are literally liminal spaces.
Nobody finds beaches scary even if they're empty.

They're the opposite of scary. People are scary.

>>712556426
escept video games

>>712555324 (OP)
There's a bit of an anxious feeling to urban exploration and being in abandoned buildings because you know you're not supposed to be there, and there's a chance of you getting shivved by a vagrant living there, or the cops showing up.

When I was kid my dad would sometimes take me with him to his job when he was working on something after hours, and I would walk around the building and it was vaguely spooky feeling for the place to be dead quiet and empty when I was usually there during the day.
I've never felt this way working graveyard shift at my own job as an adult though. The building being empty feels peaceful thhen.

>>712556595
Lowering your defenses is just what the sharks want.

>>712555898
That's retarded.

>>712556595
Im having a treat derrick

>>712555324 (OP)
i genuinely think most "liminal space" shit is just rebranded agoraphobia

>>712557017
I look like a hush puppy

>>712555324 (OP)
They're not.

>>712556598
This pic is scary because unmanaged stillwater is scary, who knows what gnarly asbestos fungi acid shit is in there

>>712555757
>/pol/troon unironically tries to make a sociopolitical racial thing out of liminal spaces in a desperate effort to groom zoomers and alphags into their culture war
Holy fucking PATHETIC.

>>712558439
The only difference between you and me is that I've been around longer.
Well, either that or your jewish, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt today

>>712555324 (OP)
I always found them comfy. It reminds me of being home alone as a kid or when my mother would take me to her office late in the evening cause she had something to do and I'd just roam around. The solitude and quiet is nice and, growing up in that time, the late century architecture is nostalgic. As a teenager, I did a lot of urbex and got into abandoned hospitals, malls, shopping centers, and what not, and it was always super cool to see. I've been in many spaces that could be called liminal and there were never any monsters there, just me.

>>712555324 (OP)
came here to post this

>>712555324 (OP)
Zooming.
SCP experiment, btw. BOOOO

Absolute redditshit "fear"

liminal spaces are only "scary" because of typical urbex threats in places where there will most likely be no witnesses if a crime were to occur. zoomers are just afraid to think like picrel so they give it a gay retarded name.

>>712555324 (OP)
why are zoomers so scared of halls?

>>712555762
I get depersonalization and its definitely this for me. Ill be in one of these places then notice that it looks surreal and think what if my memories arent real or whatever and im stuck in this place. The games are gay though

>>712555324 (OP)
I look at them in real life and think "cool, an adventure" because nothing really happens.

>>712556595
Beaches aren't claustrophobic and disorienting.

>>712562905
do you consider an office building or a mall to be claustrophobic?

Why are low IQ retards unable to grasp why liminal spaces are scary? Once-lively areas that become abandoned are stripped of context and human life, creating a sense of unease. How we expect these places to be contrasts with their newfound emptiness, causing nervousness. This type of fear has long been recognized, though it isn't completely understood. The idea of "Ghost towns" for example refers to both literal haunted towns and eerily empty urban areas. The mind races at the thought of what lurks beyond its borders. Darkness and deep water enhance the fear of the unknown, and the use of familiar locales gives liminal spaces a surreal, dream-like and often nostalgic element that makes them more unsettling. It's not gaudy "shit-your-pants" horror either you niggers, it's a subtle feeling of unease. Fuck off with these bullshit, disingenuous rationalizations and quit finding ways to feed your culture war.

They aren't scary but those white void rooms in the Nier games are really atmospheric, i don't really know if they count but they are cool

>>712563694
>scary
because that's too strong of a word. they're unsettling, eerie, creepy, but not scary.

>>712563694
Being in an empty city is unsettling.
Seeing a flash of an object you THINK caused that noise just now but is too far away to confirm is scary.

>>712563694
literally culture war thinking
see thing -> assign buzzword -> get angry
empty corridor -> liminal space -> fucking zoomers

>>712558628
so first you play the boring race card then the age card
Do you see why nobody takes you seriously? Probably not. Play some video games.

I need more games like The exit 8 and Shinkansen 0....please_

>>712555324 (OP)
They aren't personal. They are utilitarian, industrial, they are man-made but not meant to be dwelled in. That's all I can come up with for why they feel the way they do. I wouldn't say creepy, I would say cold.

>>712562950
It can be if the areas look very similar to each other.

>>712563694
I think Wizard of Oz is one of the best examples of liminal space being used to create unease.

>>712563694
>dream-like
That's what it is. It's Lynchian. A completely normal space, but something is very wrong. Why is it completely empty? It shouldn't be that way, and your pattern recognition gives you the feeling of unease. It's the same intuition that makes you leave a place when it feels dangerous. Your brain is constantly running pattern recognition "software," that gives you feelings about your environment. If you were in a dark, empty hospital IRL, your brain would scream at you to leave.

>>712563694
Explaining horror is like explaining a joke. If you have to do it then it wasnt that good to begin with.

>>712555324 (OP)
It reminds zoomers where they were raped

>>712564885
But no one doesn't understand it, they just pretend not to, and mock it because they were told not to like it. So your argument is disingenuous.

>>712555898
I don't know about zoomers, but I regularly have dreams that involve being lost. They're not "wake up in a cold sweat" nightmares, but they are unsettling. Games like POOLS feel like that, and they're comfy in their creepiness.

>>712558940
Same. I like games like Pools, the Complex Expedition, Within the Backrooms, and Anemoiapolis because they're comfy to walk through. If you add a monster to a McDonalds it can become scary, but the environments themselves are pretty cozy. Standing in an empty hallway shouldn't immediately make you afraid just because you're alone.

Anyone make their own liminal spaces? Source Engine is honestly THE engine for doing it, IMO.

They are making a movie about the backrooms right now, a real movie, based on the backrooms that reddit stole from /x/.
Lol.

>>712563694
Only a literal kid would be scared of this shit lol

>>712565285
This is giving "horror movies just never scare me."

>>712565173
The Exit 8 movie comes out in August. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_DJMdiQ7lg

>>712565335
No, I get scared from shit like webm related with a great story/tale, not your kindergarten hall.

>>712555324 (OP)
I find them cozy as hell.

>>712565545
>Post AI slop
Ok, you got me. Here's your reply.

Silent Hill 2 was a liminal game kinda funny the people who praise it hate liminial horror for some reason

>>712565628
Ai can be pretty scary

I really don't get it. Growing up I spent a lot of time in empty schools, as an adult I've spent a lot of time in dead retail. I'm from a small decaying town. These "liminal spaces" are honestly pretty melancholic at times, but the idea of them being scary feels so bizarre to me.

>>712565158
I took bits of my old childhood home and added them to a mish mash of other places I've lived, and additions I've seen in dreams involving these homes that don't exist but I vividly remember being there. There's a name for this phenomenon of finding new spaces in a familiar place you're having a dream about and feeling like it's always been there but I can't remember what it's called

>>712565173
the movie is based off the Kane Pixels version of the Backrooms, so it's devoid of the trash Reddit tried to pollute it with

>>712565628
ok zoomer, keep shitting your pants to corridors or whatever

>>712565158
Reminds me of this shot from Twin Peaks.

>>712558439
Explain it better then my dude

>>712565816
Ok. Go type another prompt into Veo and shit your pants.

>>712563694
I fucking hate zoomers for inserting their skibidi entity or whatever the fuck on these because god forbid they don't take their daily dose of them. Once they put those things to shit your pants instead of only having your own fears eating you inside out it's already over. Also actual liminal spaces irl are comfy as fuck

>>712565545
>>712565698
Thing is, AI "horror" is no different than a cgi monster, the thing most people agree isn't scary. Backrooms uses your imagination, the scariest thing you can imagine (literally). It's a nightmare where your own mind fills in the blanks, nothing can be scarier than that. Lynch understood that, and I don't think you know more about horror than Lynch.

>>712565825
the bottom of the staircase is like that, it's lit by a bathroom across of it, and it's nighttime looking out the windows downstairs compared to upstairs being bathed in sunlight

>>712565158
>>712565762
My man. I used to make levels in source exactly like this to run in SMOD Tactical because I loved the way it looked. Source still has my favorite engine aesthetic.

>>712555324 (OP)
Its a proven fact that child molesters are often found in liminal spaces stalking children.

>>712565930
>Once they put those things to shit your pants instead of only having your own fears eating you inside out it's already over.
I think this is what really throws me for a loop about the whole backrooms thing. Maybe I just misread the original post back on /x/ but I always thought the fucked up thing about that concept was the idea of noclipping out of your average life and being permanently stuck out of bounds, not "oooooo spooky monster chasing you"

HOLY SHIT IS THAT AN EMPTY ROOM WHERE THE ONLY SOUNDS ARE MY OWN FOOTSTEPS?! HELP ME NIGGERMAN I'M GOING INSANE!

>>712566302
Exactly. It got mixed up with the SCP "youtube horror" where zoomers just mashed everything together into cgi youtube videos.

>>712555406
fpbp

>streets are empty
>get super comfy driving around
It's a braindead zoomer meme

Bro, what is this cursed Walgreens-energy hallway I’m stuck in?? Like, I blinked and now I’m in a backrooms core aesthetic nightmare and NO ONE is here, not even a cursed Roomba.

Deadass, it’s giving liminal space but not in the chill, nostalgic way—more like ‘I missed a side quest and now I’m softlocked in reality.’ I’m talking buzzing fluorescent lights, carpet that smells like trauma, and a vending machine that only takes change from 1996.

Tried calling for help but my phone’s on 1% and only getting a signal from some network called ‘404_LifeNotFound.’ Skibidi toilet jumpscare imminent. I swear I saw a silhouette of a Blockbuster employee in the fog whispering 'Be kind, rewind.'

I’m literally about to emotionally dissociate and start speaking in analog horror. Like bro, what is the lore??? Who rendered this map?? I didn’t ask for this liminal lore drop. I just wanted an iced coffee and now I’m on level 37 of existential dread.

Send help or at least a vibe check.

>>712566556
>zoomer meme

They're not scary, but they can evoke a strange feeling in your stomach. I remember having to go to school for some reason when I was young in the evening, and being the only person in the empty school buildings was very weird.

>>712566129
I'm making them to roam around in VR in HL2VR (or Garry's Mod VR, if I can ever get that working)

>>712566684
I love foggy mornings thoughbeit

>being left alone in a big environment
>no loud idiots, npcs, annoying niggs
>somehow z00mies think its le bad
z00mer subhumans need to be put down

>>712566743
Same, but being willfully ignorant about why something can be spooky is annoying.

>>712566684
>soul gas

>>712566662
@grok be more racist

>>712566662
>Like bro, what is the lore???
Ok, that got me.

>>712566827
>dude fog is scary.... but only if you put scary monsters in it
ok?

>>712555324 (OP)
Zoomers are afraid of blue collar jobs like construction and renovation.

>>712566968
I could explain why you're retarded, but it would be lost on you. One day maybe you'll play SH2 and get it. Maybe you'll watch a Lynch film. Maybe not.

>>712566795
their minds simply stops working without external stimuli, rendering their existence in the world void

>>712567057
The fog itself isn't scary, retard

they arent youre just retarded

>>712567275
Anything you look at under a microscope and scrutinize isn't scary. You still, literally, so not get it.

>Wake up, family isn't present when they normally are
>Death in the family, visit the deceased's room, they are no longer there
We've all experienced liminal spaces before they were a meme. Well, those of us who aren't children right now, anyway. Liminal spaces in games are just cheap imitations of realizing something is missing.

Their time is limited, as is yours. Don't have regrets; make sure you love your family, no matter how strained the relationships may be. Once they're gone, you can never tell them you love them again.

>>712567354
It's fog

>>712555324 (OP)
Because you believe in ghosts and think a ghost will attack you in an empty human space.

>>712555324 (OP)
When I was a kid empty spaces made me uncomfortable but they’re soothing as an adult.

>>712567391
Yes, molecules made up of hydrogen and oxygen. Very observant.

>>712565158
Real talk I wanted to make my own exploration levels. What are some guide to do it in Garry's Mod or something? I wanna make my own custom assets too if possible. I wanna make a spooky vaguely modern gothic city that has big explore buildings and water canals and stuff. And when is Source 2 gonna be a thing we can use?

packed in city dwellers get so used to everything being crowded that the opposite scares them

>>712555324 (OP)
why are you such a faggot?

>>712567150
unironically true.

My gf and I are in our 30s, but she has a 14yo adopted sister.

The 14yo girl has a legitimate fear of being physically alone. She will get anxious and freak out if left alone at home for long periods of time.

Her literal worst fears are being by herself in a room with no phone, tv, or music.

That's when I knew our society is fucked: young people don't understand that being alone in silence with your own internal monologue of thoughts is both normal and healthy. It scares the shit out of them.

They don't even know themselves.

>>712567708
That's a very annoying way to format your post, fyi.

>>712567530
The best way to learn is just dive into it. Find an example of the kind of architecture you wanna make, and try replicating that with brushwork.
It's also a good idea to read up on anything you're not sure about, this wiki is a great resource for level design and anything technical related to it
https://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/SDK_Docs

>>712567708
>reddit spacing

>>712567708
>adopted
>fear of abandonment
Probably less to do with her being a zoomer and more to do with her specific circumstance. How did you even learn that? Do you lock her in a room with no stimuli?

>>712555324 (OP)
Because they're designed for dozens if not hundreds of people and it would be abnormal if no one was there, especially if it's well-maintained as that means someone is around.

>>712567708
I think you might be retarded.

>>712567802
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>>712565545
>dude this isnt scary, where's the monsters and the blood and the screaming jpg!!
jesus, this thread is full of genuine mongoloids

>>712563694
Oceanview Hotel was scarier

>>712568096
>How did you even learn that? Do you lock her in a room with no stimuli?
She's said it a bunch of times, but she's also a chronic liar so it's hard to tell what's true or not. I was once having a casual conversation with her and asked her if the idea of her sitting in a room in silence with no phone, no tv, and no music sounded scary. She said yes. There's also been countless times where my gf has been watching her and she'll ask to have one of her friends sleep over because she "doesn't want to be alone."

Any other good Exit 8 type games?

>>712568474
Yeah, liminal spaces are the stupidest shit ever. Nobody born before the year 2000 would consider an empty room or hallway as "artistic." At most, we would spend 1 second realizing that the lack of windows to the room/corridor gives it a slightly different character compared to rooms/corridors that do, and move on. Yet the zigger watches an analysis video on youtube about it. It's so pointless. JUst yet another thing regular people should not waste time thinking about it any way, but now our culture must analyze it over and over.

>>712568946
Most suck. Kotake Create made a prequel called Platform 8, and there's a decent one made by another group called Shinkansen 0.

>>712555324 (OP)
A growing number of people are just afraid of being alone. Me, liminal spaces look like paradise.

>>712568698
>psychopath anon twice her age asks if she would be scared if he locked her in a padded insane asylum room with absolutely nothing in it and didn't allow her to leave
>omg what is wrong with zoomers??
yup, retarded

>>712568946
Sorry not a game (I don't think there are many good ones), but you can read BLAME!.

>>712568946
Ten Bells is pretty good.

>>712569392
I read this and Knights of Sidnoia... I don't remember either ending, but I remember being disappointed in both.

>>712569142
>Nobody born before the year 2000 would consider an empty room or hallway as "artistic."
The Shinning did exactly that and its one of the top 100 movies of all time.

>>712569392
>To exit full screen, press and hold Esc
weird dialog box for a manga

>>712569519
That doesn't count because the term "liminal" wasn't used to describe it at the time.

>>712569512
KoS sucked balls IMO. It started extremely strong with the worldbuilding, but then went to shit. BLAME is 10/10 imo, but you need to read it twice to get it, and it gets a lot better the second time. Abara is really cool.

>>712569612
Fair.

>>712569163
>>712569392
>>712569470
Guess I'll check these out then, thanks anons.

>>712569519
the fear of being out of bounds is way more existentially terrifying than just "big empty space" but nobody ever uses that part of the idea

>>712565158
Source Engine is great. The main reason why INFRA is one of my favourite games ever. I never thought about it in the context as narrow as liminal spaces, but I guess it qualifies, seeing as you spend your time in the empty spaces next to normal civilization, but kind of on the inverse side of it where you barely meet anyone. I feel like being made on Source greatly contributed to that eerie feeling.

>>712570382
INFRA is a gem, I need to reply it again sometime
Wish I could play it in VR

>>712565158
LETS DO THE FORK IN THE GARBAGE DISPOSAL
LETS DO THE FORK IN THE GARBAGE DISPOSAL-DING DING DING

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4AFQc4ZrvA

>>712569392
>hey bro, you are here alone too
>thats great i need to take a pee but theres nobody to hold my penis
>can you hold it while im taking dump
>hahaha
>looks at you pale faced with serious expression
what do

>>712555324 (OP)
I liked the porn version, lol.

>>712572028
>>712572241
What?
Just don't post if you don't like the thread topic, hide the thread and go shit up some other thread

>>712555324 (OP)
Are zoomers shidding their pants when they walk through pic rel?

>>712555324 (OP)
They are comfy

>>712555406
FPBP, they are comfy as fuck

>>712555324 (OP)
They're not scary but they tend to feel a little weird and dangerous when empty. These are transit spaces between two places with purpose. Being stuck in a space that in-itself has no other purpose than brief travel is obviously anxiety inducing because it wasn't designed for prolonged rest, they're often out of the way of direct visibility or hidden in design and less spacious. It's biologically perfectly normal to feel wary of a subway tunnel.

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>>712569347
You're a fool.

>>712567621
fog isn't used enough in horror settings. The Mist was one of the best examples and hasn't been topped since.

>>712572652
>not recognizing foundonthetape
holy mother of newfag

>>712573445
>not recognizing dogshit for browns
yeah, uhhh.
imagine not

>>712555757
>Factories and refineries produce good of such quality that you would be honored to receive one as a gift.

*opens temu. com*

>>712555324 (OP)
It's like playing Alien Isolation without the alien.
I've just played through "Pools" in VR and although it was a pretty good VR experience, it'd be so much better if it was dark with a torch with something to do in the game

>>712573246
This but unironically

>>712556158
Did the zoomer living rent free tell you that?

>>712555324 (OP)
Because brutalist "architecture" is shit without other humans to instill a sense of comfort