Thread 712561447

I want to like this game so bad, but for some reason I just can't get into it. I've tried like 3 times.

Maybe 4th time is the charm

Play Nioh 2 instead it fixes most issues with the game. If you like fromslop but dislike this it's because the game is too hard for you.

I always enjoy my time with it but stop playing, forget what was going on and restart yet again.

The second game is much more polished with higher quality maps, bosses and enemies. I would try that if you're still interested in the series

>>712561986
>If you like fromslop but dislike this it's because the game is too hard for you.
?
The game is piss easy and has almost nothing in common with From games. Nioh is dogshit levels combined with terrible NPC bosses and it's a literal movie game where there's ten minutes of listening to the random life and times of Sokenzakuchong Takuwa's story like I should give a fuck.

It clicked for me at the second region, godlike atmo and gameplay.

>>712561447 (OP)
What do you dislike about it?

>>712561986
Anon, Nioh is far, far fucking easier than from slop outside of DS2:SotfS if you know where to get the items to cakewalk the game

>>712563547
Just say you're bad at Fromsoftware games next time
>>712563446
>Nioh
>movie game

>>712561447 (OP)
Thats ok, not every game is for everyone, i cant stand 1st person anything.

What are the reasons you think you are bouncing off the game though? They might be misunderstandings on your part if you are that interested in liking it, i want to help if possible.

>>712563547
>Game is easy when you know it

no shit

>>712563712
>Nioh
>not a movie game
>except of course for this 90-minute movie, tee-hee
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9wFIAianrc
Every level has like a 5 minute opening scene and then a fucking random history lesson at the end from some tokugawa-era shitter. it takes longer to watch this shit than it does to beat the levels

>>712563712
Fromslop games are terrible but I don't understand how saying Nioh is easier than fromslop means fromslop is hard

Nioh gives you tools to fuckign facetank shit early on
Fromslop doesn't
Fromslop is harder in terms of the early game if you don't know what you're doing

from slop is easier overall but nioh is easier for a retarded faggot like yourself

>>712561447 (OP)
I also wanna but the Boss from the cave (I think is like the 3rd boss) filters me.

>>712564112
Why are you arguing against a strawman?
>Fromslop games are terrible but I don't understand how saying Nioh is easier than fromslop means fromslop is hard
No one said that.

The games are comparable in terms of difficulty. If you know how to play them, they're not hard.

>>712564435
>trolls
>well haha ummm uwu noooo I was making a strawman lolz you lose

I see

>>712563943
>90 minutes of cutscenes
yeah if nioh was a 10 hr game you might have a leg to stand on, even that would be a very small amount of time for cinematics when compared to movie games.
but nioh is a 40+ hour game.... just for the main story let alone the post game stuff which has no cutscenes.

what a weird thing to say

>>712564481
Are you ESL?
You're literally arguing against a point that no one made.
Stop being weird.

>>712564504
NTA, does Nioh not have skippable cutscenes?
I never watched a cutscene in Nioh 2.
Not sure why anyone would.

>>712564719
Yes and for the most part, there's zero reason not to skip them
the story in both is quite bad

>>712564719
No, you can skip them.
I watched them all, in both games, when I played through them.
They are barely there.

Calling it a movie game is just very strange.
Nioh has had a lot of really weird things said about it by people who clearly have never played it or know anything about it. It just seems to attract a lot of those people.

>>712564504
It's not weird at all. The reason it struck me as a movie game is because the quality of the cutscenes is terrible and the relevance is nonexistent.

>>712564863
FROMtards damage controlling, Anti-FROMtards attacking it by association, and KT already had a legion of haters before Nioh even came out.

>>712565021
So let me get this straight... you think its a movie game because...
1. the movie parts are of low quality and not done well
and 2. are not relevant to the experience of the game

so you conclude, that because cutscenes were NOT the focus of the game, that it must be a movie game?
have I got this all correct? is this what you think?

>>712564863
?
I beat the dogshit out of the original nioh. All missions WoN, 300 abyss, under 30 deaths

>>712565217
I think it's a movie game because there are constant cutscenes, they're shitty cutscenes, they're barely relevant. Most of the cutscenes reminded me of MGS4 trash when Drebin would talk about the BnB members after they were dead.

>>712565268
Okay and what does that have to do with me watching the cutscenes and saying they are skippable?

>>712565362
answer the question anon, is what I said correct and what you think.
stay on track and we get this sorted out

>>712565362
Erm, not that anon but... there's a cutscene at the start, the part before the boss and usually at the end of the mission

How the fuck is that 'constant cutscenes'
Did you speedrun the missions?

>>712565362
Room temperature (in Celsius) IQ moment

>>712565362
MGS4 has like 10 hours of cutscenes to a 5 hour game
Nioh has 1.5 hours of cutscenes in a 40-50 hour game

How the fuck are they "constant"?

>>712565435
The average mission on normal took about half an hour. Having several minutes of cutscenes per level is shitty

>>712565532
Press the skip button

>>712565498
My first run of Nioh was under 20 hours including 1.5hr of cutscenes

Should I be dismantling equipment I don't use or offering it? I've been offering it to get more elixirs and I'm finding good equipment already without forging anything.
Also, do I have to replay entire missions to keep the Kadoma I missed on the first run through?

>>712565619
So you quit half way through and only saw half the cutscenes?
thats only 45 minutes of cutscenes anon

>>712565598
I guess you can do that in Last of Us too, lmfao

>>712561447 (OP)
just attack then ki pulse then flux then back to your preferred stance

>>712565619
That still doesn't help your argument one bit. That's nearly a 20:1 ratio of gameplay to cutscene.

This is a strange hill to die on. Just pick another gripe you have with the game and go with that, stop embarrassing yourself here.

>>712565719
When I quit the game I beat all missions WoN, 300 abyss. I beat the game under 20hr on my inaugural run

>>712561447 (OP)
It's mediocre shovelware. Just move on.

>>712561447 (OP)
anons, nioh 2 is one of my favorite games of all time, but i feel like the first will pale in comparison. should i go back and play it?

>>712565720
Well the cutscenes are very relevant for TLOU.
>>712565362
Your complaint is that the cutscenes in Nioh are NOT relevant, so what's your problem now with skipping them?

It sounds like your stance is simply "Nioh bad" and you don't actually have a real reason

>>712565532
Okay so 30 minutes per level?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=RGkntdZwsuA
Just slightly oever 2 hours including DLC

Now, to be fair, we will NOT include submissions
so, with 30 minutes per level and 27 missions total (not including weight of the world which is just cutscenes) we get, on average, a total of fucking 6.32 minutes of cutscenes per level
So we ADD that to the playtime of the level
So we then get 36.32 minute sper level
1/6th of your time is a fucking cutscne

HOW THE FUCKING IS THAT A FUCKING MOVIE GAME YOU RETARDED BASTARD

>>712565752
All the good gripes have been taken
>dogshit NPC bosses
>terrible levels
>terrible enemy variety
>diabloshit
>terrible story

>>712565819
So you are saying you played the game for the first time after the DLC released since WoN was out and not just 3 difficulties
so you did all 4 difficulties
and all the dlc missions
and only 300 abyss floors despite doing all this other stuff?

anon you know this just sounds like bullshit right, we know how long the game takes to play
saying 300 floors and WoN, with 300 floors being the base game and WoN being DLC which also had 999 abyss floors means you are just googling shit about the game and never played it.

>>712565907
tldr and angry caps. have sex, lift weights, and defending milady wont matter as much

There we have it, folx!
The from tranny is just trolling after its bussy got punked

>>712565923
If everything justifiable has been said, why do you feel you need to be part of the bitching so badly that you need to pump up some non-issue to pretend to be one?

Do you not have anyone to talk to at home?

>>712566009
I put 200 hours in the game by the end of it, but my first playthrough was extremely quick

>>712566108
I'm waiting for a server to start up for another game I'm in queue for

>>712566209
Well I hope it starts soon, and I hope you have a great time anon.

>>712566352
thanks. I hope so too

Why do Team Ninja games in general attract the same deranged schizos that clearly never actually played the game?

>>712561447 (OP)
The whole premise is gay: pick a weapon class and that's what you're playing for the entire rest of the game.

I fucking hate these long ass, draw-out soulslikes. A souls game should be short: you make your build, and you finish the game before you get bored of it. Then restart and do a new build.

No. This game wants you to stick to the same shit for literally 300 hours. Fuck that

>>712566463
I'm not sure. You see people suck the dick off NG all the time by people that've never played it

>>712565907
no he said he did all 4 difficulties, all optional missions, all dlc, and 300 abyss floors
the game has 28 main missions and 86 side missions (this is predlc)
so 114, x4 for all 4 difficulties = 456
+ 300 abyss floors so 756 missions at least
so anon spent 90 seconds per missions
not including cutscenes

>>712566463
Case in point >>712566480

>>712561447 (OP)
how can i be tanky af from the beninging? I hate glasscanon anything when i dont know the game. I love stat tankiness none of that do x then y to have x seconds of armor kind of tankiness. With that in mind is it worth getting into the game?

>>712566124
>218 hours
>90 minutes of cutscenes
>movie game
0.68% of your playtime was cutscenes if you watched them all
and you say its a movie game?
are you retarded?

>>712566480
Meanwhile, I've swapped my main weapon multiple times in Nioh 2 because you can respec...

>>712565830
yes and no.while 2 is considerably better in a lot of ways, the core combat is still mostly the same. The major downsides of going back after playing 2 first is that every area is kind of samey, and the enemy variety is much lower. It does have a small number of bosses they didn't bring back, mostly the DLC bosses but structurally it's a very similair game. I would say it's at least worth playing through to Hino-Enma, which is like the second real boss fight. After that the amount of unique content dips considerably, but the final boss is pretty cool in my opinion.

>>712566719
You can respect in 1 too. Doesn't change the fact it's still a single huge playthrough.
In a short game you get to play through the whole thing with the same build, without it getting boring.
Playing a build in one area, then a build in another, then a build in another etc etc is equally uninteresting to me

>>712566557
No I didn't. I said my first run was 20 hours. That meant the main campaign, no DLC, on way or the whatever. Here's the post:
>>712565819
>>712565619
Beating all the other stuff took over 200hr
can niohiggers even read or glean information?

>>712566683
>I suck, will the game baby me?
Play another genre

>>712564112
I have put 1000+ hours into nioh 2 and about 300 hours into Nioh. To this day I have no idea what the story or plot is about. I dont give a fuck about the story, but the gameplay in Nioh 2 is a solid 10/10. It's literally a joy to play.

>>712566480
Are you retarded on purpose?

>>712561447 (OP)
Wtach a pooferllama video and learnt to play the game. When you do, you realize the combat is surprisingly in depth and well crafted.

>>712566124
>ezgame
>baby game
>got filtered by abyss 300
lmao you got fucking washed and couldn't actually do any of the end game that was scaled beyond the base game difficulty despite having the dlc and you needed to stat check the fight?
lmao, just lmao

>>712564719
You lack honour.

>>712566557
Its a troll
stop responding to it
I said main missions only to be able to show he's inherently just trolling

>>712566687
I'm talking about the first playthough. it was like 19hr with 1.5hr of cutscene.

>>712566719
Legitimately one of the ugliest faces in porn. She looks like a Jew trying to pretend to be Asian.

>>712566987
>>712565819
>I beat the game in 20hr
so you are unable to write is what you are telling us?

>>712566683
10 elixirs
take it or leave it

>>712566923
Once I got my gear to 300 I'd seen everything the game offered. post character with deaths. maybe you like killing the same shitty bosses over and over.

>>712566993
But enough about Julia Boin

>>712567095
>I couldn't beat fights at the actual same difficulty of the my gear
lmao

>>712567081
what don't you understand here?

>>712566889
no need to be rude, i never said your special hardcore pro leet gamer game was my cup of tea just asked a simple question you rat human construct
>>712567085
i dont know what that means

>>712561447 (OP)
Are you me? I couldn't get into it either, too much button mashing to barely damage low level mobs, same with WoLong

>>712567171
post character screen with deaths.

I couldn't give less of shit about Sengoku wankery.
Nioh 1 and 2 are 10/10 action games and I have absolutely no idea nor I care what the story in either game was actually about

>>712566856
>>712566719
I don't even understand why you would need to respec in Nioh 1. You can max out the skills for every weapon type well before beating the game. The multplayer vs mode is joke so why the build autism?

>>712567243
>i dont know what that means
You die in two or three hits, but you can get yourself a lot of healing items
maybe there are broken builds for that, but I never checked

>>712564379
The bat lady? Learn to read her attack telegraphs. Her attacks always have both audio and visual queues.
It's supposed to be a tutorial to teach you how to look for those tells.

>>712567282
why don't you?
you didn't actually beat the game and do the end game content
999 floors of abyss only, doing predlc content with the free gear you get and then thinking you actually did anything is hilarious. The gear you posted is all dlc gear

>>712567464
I already did. 27 deaths, all WoN missions. post your character with deaths and completions

>>712567245
It is a bit like that at first, but it pretty quickly has you scale past them once you're over the hurdle. Wo Long eventually gets to the point where you can basically just glide around killing normal enemies casually with magic.

>>712566683
>>712567243
glasscanon is pretty much how the game works, even with a heavy armor set and 10 elixers, which are your heals, you can't tank much at all in Nioh. Damage is high even against grunts so it's a learn or die kind of game. Basic enemies you can learn how to deal with pretty quickly but against bosses you should expect to die a bit before learning how to fight them. Boss fights are punishing and don't allow for many mistakes. If you want a game where you can face tank stuff, this is not it.

>>712567573
>I already did
nah, you didn't
you didn't even know how many floors the abyss had and are trying to claim you did them and now are back peddling about it.

>>712567440
alright thank you saves me 8 bucks i guess

>>712567739
No, I didn't claim to do them all. Feel free to link where I said that I finished it. once I got to 300, I had enough of the game and see no need to autistically play number go up any further.

>>712567865
>no need to autistically play number go up
oh so you just did it for (apparently) 218 hours?
and that was too many cutscenes for you

or wait was it 20 hours like you originally claimed?
how quick was each floor done if you did them all in 20 hours? do the maths for me please

>>712567764
NTA you were replying to but get the second one instead
You can mostly kinda start tanky after about an hour or two (generally after the second mission)
You can set it so you gain life on amrita gain (basically almost anytime you do damage), get life stealing magic (temporary buff), get healing on the ground and also a constant heal affect on yourself (all temp, tho) for like 30-90 seconds I think
Overall you can be tanky, like retardedly tanky but it will take some work in terms of buffing

you can also get shit like the odachi and just spam the shit out of groundquake to break the boss' ki

>>712567976
I beat the first difficulty of Nioh in under 20hr, including 1.5hr of cutscenes.
All the playing afterwards added up to 218hr.

Now, post your character with deaths, depth, and missions.

>>712567727
>If you want a game where you can face tank stuff, this is not it.
Except it totally is and one weapon type is almost entirely designed around it?

>>712561447 (OP)
Nioh 1 is the only good Team Ninja game
It's all downwards from there
Don't listen to retards trying to claim Nioh 2 is better. They actually think More = Good but the whole game is lower quality and more repetitive, with the shittier Yokai Shift and amrita game mechanics

>>712565819
>>712567865
hmm

>>712568253
Confused? I imagine you are ESL. Look up the word inaugural. That'll probably help you!

>>712568105
Why didn't you say this to start with then?
You should be clearer about what you are trying to say.

Nah, I beat the game, you didn't even do 1/3 of it.

>>712568378
I don't think you know what inaugural means as calling it your inaugural run means you did more than one and doesn't at all mean just completing the story, in fact, it means you beat the game and then played it again.

>>712568407
I did. I said my inaugural run was under 20hr and that I stopped at over 200 with all achievements, missions, etc.

>>712568378
>the trolling racist septuples down

See sweetie, the problem is you said you did all the abyss but now... you claim otherwise

>>712568532
It'll run out of steam eventually
stop responding to it

>>712568532
inaugural run would mean first run in a series, like an inaugural performance or inaugural issue.

>>712568105
Deaths?

>>712568548
so you spent 20hrs on your first run to beat the game
and then over 200 on your second run
why did your second run take x10 as long?

>>712568591
>Brown.
post WoN missions, depth, and deaths. I'm guessing you're like every other shitter that died 300x

>>712568186
It doesn't matter if you run Axe or Odachi, or whatever else your referring to, you can't just neglect dodging.

>>712561447 (OP)
You're probably just playing it wrong. For myself, I can't help loving Nioh 1 despite all its obvious flaws, because it's just so much fun.
If you're not finding it fun, you're probably treating it like some masocore game, expecting to die all the time, not recognising most of the options you have to deal with any situation... you're likely playing the fromslop-meme-ARG of suffering and endless dying, rather than Nioh which is not supposed to be that.

>>712568642
Yes, it would be like saying my beginning run when there is only 1, it doesn't make sense, you wouldn't say it unless there is more than 1
>this is the first act!
>there is no second act

>>712568686
no the 200hjr was all the other difficulties, abyss, farming, etc
>>712568647
nice edit

>>712568782
there was more than 1. there were consequent runs through the game. what's the issue here?

>>712568845
thanks yours is pretty alright too haha

>>712568845
nah his numbers track with how many enemies killed
you only posted a screenshot without any other details anon

if its good enough for you, must be good enough for me, right?

>>712568987
kek, seething

>>712563446
>movie game
Ok so you didn't play
>>712563547
>far easier than fromslop
lol no I did my first full runs of ds3 and elden ring near deathless. None of the souls games have any complex inputs you can beat them entirely with nothing but the dodge key and R1, Moving is optional.

>>712569058
...but I'm better!

>>712569047
this is how insecure niohiggers are.

>>712568961
so there was multiple runs through the game?
that is quite literally what you are saying right now

also, you mean to say consecutive, consequent means something caused by something else, from consequences.
we already knew you were an ESL from not understand the implications of the words you were using earlier (and for trying to call a person who knew exactly what them words means an ESL lol)

>>712565830
I have a tedious tendency to not be able to jump in on the sequel of a franchise so I avoided both Nioh games because I wanted to try Nioh 2 but I didn't ant to touch Nioh 1 because it looked so tedious. This year I was gifted both and forced myself to play them starting with Nioh 1. I'm glad I did because it was an excellent game. I'm about half ay through Nioh 2 no and although 2 is better, I think the difference in quality is overstated. The strength in both is the moment to moment combat gameplay which is already there in Nioh 1.

>>712569101
Beat the game on WoN, all missions, 300 depth, plat, etc.

>>712569147
wdym I downloaded and installed the game again, grabbed my save off the cloud, all to just prove to you how easy of a game it is, I did all 999 abyss floors as well! I didn't die even once unlike a street shitter like you.

>it's going back to earlier posts to try to start new trolling tactics

kek

Awful fucking thread. Everyone should be ashamed.

>>712569301
>insecure niohigger edited a picture to save face.
goddamn has to be suffering

>>712569242
>all missions
>300 "depth"
right so you didn't beat every mission, since you only 300 abyss floors and not 999?

>>712563943
I guess Elden Ring is a movie game too https://youtu.be/ATUlTXA2SFY?si=u3NBhwyTXUU1H2yK

>>712569394
Abyss depth isn't missions. missions are missions. is this what you've been confused about?

>>712561447 (OP)
>I've tried like 3 times.
I had to try the game multiple times but I really liked it

Why is it impossible for /v/ to have a normal thread about Nioh or Stranger of Paradise?

>>712569727
The game attracts shitposters and Nioh posters are too autistic to ignore them. A deadly combination.

>>712569727
SEAmonkeys and jeets

>>712569490
the abyss is a mission
every floor in the abyss is a separate mission

>>712569727
Nobody played SoP so I've never seen a thread about it, Nioh really has especially autistic posters much like Ninja Gaiden

>>712570161
I played it
enjoyed my inaugural run then played it a second time after all the dlc had released

>>712567764
none of the other anons who replied to you mentioned the power of blocking in Nioh. it's pretty strong. also if you raise your toughness stat beyond 200 you don't have to worry about being staggered by enemy attacks so much - essentially you get hyper armour against minor moves, yet if you're swinging something heavy you will be very likely to stagger the enemy back.
You can do this very easily by just wearing the heaviest armour you have, yet you can also fine balance equipment weight it so that it preserves your A class green agility (better dodges and rolls).
that's before even getting into stats.

>>712570161
oh right it's Final Fantasy so "that man" would definitely shit up any thread SoP thread

>>712561447 (OP)
I eard its supposed to be like dark souls but with samurai

>>712569394
Anyone who wasted their time going to the very end of the recycled boss pit mini-game is a mazed lab rat whose opinion can be safely disregarded

>>712570161
SoP gets some threads here and there.
They're pretty comfy until the same exact FF schizo derails the entire thread.
>Nobody played SoP
I blame Squeenix for making sure the game was dead on arrival. A shame because the game is fantastic.

>>712570570
>he doesn't know

>>712570570
>only played base game abyss
>got filtered by first end game abyss stage
oh so you never actually saw what people liked about abyss because you couldn't actually do the challenge content in the game and needed to overgear every stage?
ic, you don't know whats deeper in the abyss lmao

>>712571016
>>712570713
Not the guy you were talking to retard
Nobody actually "liked" the abyss, you are not fooling anybody by pretending that running 2 bosses around in a circle for 20 minutes until you can get one parry into an Iai oneshot was compelling gameplay. If you wasted your time on that garbage you aren't due any respect

>>712571180
>Nobody
>actually means I
lol you are just outing yourself

>>712569727
>Why is it impossible for /v/ to have a normal thread about Nioh or Stranger of Paradise?
TN fanboys are too retarded, as evidenced above

I hope TN changes the way difficulties work. It's too samey for nioh and they even had the forethought to make you have a literal invincible mode for SoP. FOR ME, ideally I want all the enemies to have one or two additions to their moveset that change their fight in a cool and meaningful way. Like lets take gaki, how about they have a move where they stay in place and turn into big gaki's if they wait around for 10 seconds, idk. Something like that.

>>712571180
Anon, if you think the entire point of Nioh is to minmax to one/two shot the bosses then you're missing the point of the game

The abyss is there if you like Nioh and want more of it

>>712561447 (OP)
Start blocking everything in low/mid stance instead of trying to dodge roll and you'll like the game. iframes are non-existant.

Abyss sucks, there are TWO special floors out of a thousand in the whole thing the rest is a repetitive grind
999 is a cool final challenge (even if it comes down to ebin oneshot or running in a circle and taking potshots), but it's not worth the giant waste of time of getting there. Expecting someone to finish 999 floors is silly and pure shitposting (you have NOT done it yourself)

>>712572137
I hated how SoP's DLCs work. You have three options
>extra mode faceroll, zero challenge, ass
>grind for 100 hours between dlcs, cool if you're into it I guess, ass if you wanna do new content
>go in raw, die in one hit to everything and tickle enemies, only for absolute psychopaths who like dying to a boss for a week straight
None of them are very fun to me. The Nioh way is better, you can put the game down and when DLC drops you have new levels + a new difficulty to go through and it's a decent challenge but not retarded

>>712561447 (OP)
Let me guess, another filtered fromtranny?

>>712561447 (OP)
The itemization and gear system sucks fucking ass in both 1 and 2. Genuinely the worst implementation of a diablo-esque loot system in vidya history.

>>712573090
I don't remember SoP's DLC structure other than defeating SPOILERS and doing some bahamut shit but I don't understand how people can recommend doing higher difficulties first then going back to them, its not designed that way unless your just weak

Anyways, my original topic being that each new difficulty cycle should be impactful is that the beginning is usually the hardest and it evens out fast when you get the appropriately powered gear. They should even it out more. Also what if in nioh 3 gakis can turn to big gakis, then into chieftain gakis, that would be so cool. Maybe have a limit of two or three on screen.

Am I missing anything major if I just play through NG of Nioh? I typically like campaign focused games, not grinding, but I don't want to miss any exclusive bosses or anything.

>>712573982
>I don't remember SoP's DLC structure
SoP has a gear progression system where numbers go up, and those numbers create exponentially large gaps in damage dealt and taken the further away your numbers are from the numbers the game wants you to have, and when you first gain access to the DLC that gap is absurdly large because the DLCs were tuned for people who had been grinding the postgame content instead of just finishing the game then trying to go straight into the DLC

No this is not the same as Nioh1 DLCs. Doing Nioh1 DLCs immediately after story content was perfectly doable you just had to be good. In SoP the numbers gap was really really stupid

>>712573982
How SoP works is DLC1 IS Bahamut, DLC2 is Gilgamesh, and DLC3 is Lufenia. There's no doing all content on Hard or Chaos or whatever. And there are major jumps in difficulty(read: gearscore requirements) between each which prevent you from progressing smoothly

>>712574704
You can fight everything in Nioh on NG, apart from some super SUPER endgame (think 500h of grinding in) double bosses which aren't even good

>>712561447 (OP)
Same. The lack of enemy variety killed this game for me.

>>712574909
>You can fight everything in Nioh on NG
Cool then I'll do that. Thanks anon.

>>712574704
The only thing you miss is being able to actually make impactful builds that alter gameplay, but if you're not autistic it doesn't matter.

>>712575149
Maybe I'll do that in Nioh 3 if I like 1 and 2 enough to get it.

Noob question for Wo Long
How do i see what element enemies are / what spell they are using to cancel it ?

>>712572564
What is the point of Nioh then? You just keep staggering enemies in copy paste maps and number go up.

>>712575289
What do you mean, is them shooting the actual elements like fire out not enough?

>>712575365
The point of Nioh is to start a new character from scratch and play another weapon(wooden) because the real experience is in NG with low end gear

>>712575365
improve how you fight? learning enemy movesets? shitting on stupid co opers?

>>712575289
Use eyes (Lu Bu hits you with fire, guess his element) and try to remember the weird chinese element chart
water beats fire beats poison(metal?) beats lightning(wood???) beats earth beats water

>>712575289
I think outside of fire being countered by water, none of it really matters as much as it seems like it should
In fact, the only regular enemy I can remember are the rolling hedgehog/boar type enemies being countered by water but overall I don't think it's really worth imo

>>712575365
>what is the point of the game I play to have fun with
To have fun with it

>>712575536
>>712575749
Was wondering if they made enemies that threw curveballs at you, like i cast fire but am actually resistant to water, And if you could see it somewhere before they start throwing magic at you.
Guess patience and perseverance is the way to go...

>>712575794
>>what is the point of the game I play to have fun with
>To have fun with it
But what is the fun Nioh is good at? In Souls games you have story, exploration and characters that people find interesting. In DMC you have combos and finesse. Even in something like Darksiders you've still got many strong elements.

In Nioh the focus is just on numbers. If you remove numbers do you honestly believe that people are gonna be able to delude themselves into enjoying 100 hours of it?

>>712576024
I think you're misunderstanding, anon. The elemental rock, paper, scissors is for cancelling spells or their lingering effects out IE removing residual ground puddles with the super effective element or blocking a fireball with a wall spell. Some enemies do have elemental resistances, but all that does is tank your damage when you're say using fire on a fire bird. It doesn't do a special interactions.

>>712569727
Tendies.

>>712576403
are you done trolling?

>>712576757
Applying the debuff they're weak to is much easier, plus it makes them weak to another debuff [consult the generative cycle of the weird chinese element chart] and I recall debuffs being very powerful in that game

>>712577125
There is no trolling. If you drop the number go up people wouldn't play Nioh.

>>712577184
>Applying the debuff they're weak to is much easier, plus it makes them weak to another debuff
Well yeah, but it doesn't really matter eventually. Extreme situations like that phoenix samurai guy (I can't remember Chinese names) where you can't actually apply the elemental status effects are pretty rare, usually even if they resist it you can just spam more element at them. That being said, I could be unintentionally downplaying it because I'm so used to endgame Wo Long where you're basically a constantly exploding elemental firework that knows Kung Fu. Maybe it is more useful earlier on.

>>712577184
Thank you !

>>712577528
the final final boss just lmaod at any element I tried throwing at him

>>712577751
Yeah, he's one of the exceptions. Absolutely ass storywise, but that boss was 10/10. I love it when games have the final boss actually be the hardest challenge and force the player to fight them on (relatively) equal footing, it's so refreshing after coming from Nioh where Orochi/Hundred Eyes, Ninetails, Otakemaru and Otakemaru 2 were all extremely easy spectacle fights.

sometimes when someone in a thread is being *insistently* retarded, I like to link them to random posters so they do their ESL NPC bot-reply ragebait on someone else and I can stop them from hogging my notifications with slop.