Last thread hit BL.
>>712501446

First for Sophia!

the bosses of the main game were made acknowledging that most of the game's mechanical depth is on the player's side
the dlc ones were not, and thus their only solution to the problem of having to make their game harder is to make bosses that spam for twenty seconds at a time

>>712575314 (OP)
Sexo

DLC weapons tier list

>Overpowered
Rose Sword
>Very strong
Gunblade, claws, flamelance, cataclysm, icarus
>Good
Laxasia sword, snake mace, pinwheel, la vendetta, rocket bolt
>Elder dogshit tier
Horned bow (just worse than Icarus arm)

>>712575858
>bow
>dogshit
What the hell are you smoking, this thing is awesome.

TIME TO EXIT MY STAGE

>>712575858
the gunblade is mid. it's got a mediocre as fuck attack string and it's heavy attack gimmick might look cool but is functionally just.. hitting harder. with an evasive aspect that won't evade shit, and a dash attack that'll probably get you killed.

>>712575978
Damage is horrible and is literally outdpsed by the Icarus arm. For a ranged option, the Icarus arm is just better.

>>712575858
I think the bow can be really good at the hands of a good player, but when I tried using it I looked like an idiot. Kiting requires some skill to pull off.

Ah, the Souls game from Temu

claws

>>712576734
I regretted dumping my upgrade materials on the bow. Should've saved it. The claws look fun as fuck.

>>712576171
>it's got a mediocre as fuck attack string
Do not underestimate its r1s. They are very quick relatively to how much damage they do. R1R1R2 is quick as fuck and outputs a ton of damage.
>it's heavy attack gimmick might look cool but is functionally just.. hitting harder
Nah, the actual gimmick is having a fuckload of range on the first R2 and being able to capitalize on an opening with the second. It's one of the best stance breakers in the game and it also seemingly multiplies elemental effects so with elemental buffs you can stack a debuff on enemy very quickly.

>>712577017
Bow is amazing too.

>>712576225
Icarus is a legion arm, not a main weapon. Once you empty your legion you'll either need to wait for it to recharge or use a catalyst so they're not really the same thing. The bow is a very different play-style, it's evasion focused and can get constant damage in. It is low damage per shot but the ability to constantly attack at a range and keep the dps up is very good. The correctly timed charged shots are moderately powerful and both charged fable arts are strong, especially the huge nuke arrow. If you can find reliable openings to get that off in a boss fight then you can do huge chunks of damage with it. Also, the weapon is incredible for exploring levels since you can take a lot of stuff out before it gets to you and thus avoid running into ambushes. Even when played right it's still probably not the fastest boss killer, I'll agree with that, but it's definitely not dogshit. It works well with the consecutive attack and dodge attack amulets.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRdRx1OMpJQ

>>712577017
I managed to fully upgrade both, bow is really cool too and useful for levels rather than bosses.

>>712577235
Yeah, to be fair, most - if not all - weapons in the DLC are cool, but I found some cooler than others.

>>712577262
>run out of legion
You literally can’t run out of legion in ng+ and beyond. I’ve soloed mini bosses using the Icarus arm, it’s just better than the bow in every way.

>>712577267
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59FJdI4DGi0

>>712575858
Cataclysm definitely belongs in OP tier. It's insane at clearing crowds
>>712576171
The r1 into a noncharged r2 is fast and string as shit - hell even without the gun part the sword is fast and hits decently well

>>712575465
God her puppet version looks so much fucking worse.

>>712575858
>>712576171
>the gunblade is mid

Based on some limited testing on boss refights, it's cleared faster than Rose by 30~ seconds.

>>712577626
>when the black cat asks you for a gold coin fruit but you give him a Coil Mjolnir's charged R2 to the skull instead

>>712577428
Yes things are different on the easy mode victory lap difficulty

>>712578187
Gunblade can’t do this.

https://files.catbox.moe/uybsqn.webm

Where's my Markiona porn at???

>>712578576
>easy mode
NG+ is literally harder than a fresh playthrough, lmao. Especially the DLC where everything fucking two shots you.

>>712578890
Nah, NG+ gives you so much ergo from just basic enemies that you can pump stats through the roof to reach OP levels.
I ended my first NG0 playthrough around level 85 and was at 185 by the end of NG+. Not to mention the extra Quartz slots

Am i a dumbass or is there no way to see the specific stats on the transformed holy blade

>>712579252
Stats soft cap at 40 and barely give anything beyond that, retard.

>>712578339
based

>>712579381
Tell that to my 60 motivity Cataclysm, doing 2.5k damage, bub

>>712579252
It's worth pushing vitality, vigor, capacity and your primary damage stat to 40, then you can pump whatever, capacity is a good one since with super high capacity, you can get a light load

>>712579476
Based

>>712579563
I think Capacity also has less of a soft cap than most other stats which helps

>>712577428
Again, not really the same thing, I don't know why you're trying to compare a legion arm to a main hand weapon. Icarus doesn't have a huge giga arrow fable art and you can only hold a certain number of fable catalysts while the bow is unlimited ammo.

>GTX 1070 8GB

How well do you think Lies of P will run bros?

>>712579953
I have a GTX1080 and it runs at max settings 60fps. I have a 1080p monitor.

>>712579953
In my experience it was surprisingly well optimized (at least, by modern standards). Ran flawlessly on my old rig of a 3070
You should be ok at 60fps - maybe will have to drop a few graphics settingsa

>LADIES AND GENTLEMEN
>I, ARLECCHINO, WILL ANALYZE THE ONLY MEDIUM THAT MATTERS...THE HUMAN SOUL

>>712579948
And that fable art literally takes an eternity to charge. Two empowered shurikens from Icarus does more damage in the timeframe you charge that thing. Bow is doggo.

The Phase 1 --> Phase 2 transition cutscene of the final boss is probably my favorite in any game. So fucking good.

>>712580746
I think you're probably just terrible with the bow and can't time the charged shots or something. It's a solid weapon.

>>712580851
It's one of the best in the entire fucking genre i'd say
>hands with circular saws come out of his back

>>712579252
Even with pumped stats you'll still be dying faster than on ng because of how much harder the enemies hit. It's to a point where (lesser) players with ng+ saves started a new run for the dlc so they didn't have to deal with the inflated enemy stats

>>712575858
Laxasia swords blade part should get a separate mention. The buff you get from the weapon art is busted. You are basically invincible while spamming dodge and the attack speed buff is great too.

>>712581663
I dunno, in my experience the pumped stats track well if you also make sure to upgrade your capacity enough to keep the best armor parts on + the damage reduction medallion. My total damage negation was at 55% on NG+ and I felt about as squishy as I did on NG0 through the DLC

>The entire plot of LoP is that some incel alchemist couldn't get his waifu

>>712581983
Maybe it's because I was on Ng++, but I had like 60 vitality, all the best armor equipped and the iron wall amulet but when I looked at ng footage I could see they were taking less damage compared to me, and it only gets worse from ng+3 onward. Maybe it's not as bad in the first ng+ run.

>>712581441
Nyo.

>>712581984
It's a bit more complex than that dude.

>>712582138
Possibly - I'll eventually go NG++ for the additional P-Organ stuff and find out
>>712582532
True - it's also about a workshop chud who couldn't get over the chad Venigni

>Geppetto's wife dies
>her ergo ends up inside a maid puppet and it's the first puppet who gains awakened ego
>she gets brutally dismantled by alchemists
>his son dies
I can understand why he went fucking bananas

>>712575314 (OP)
>trousers
why oh why do games always make the women crossdressers

you were at my side all along.....

>>712581984
It’s more like

>Deadbeat dad wants to revive his son’s mutilated corpse by ironically killing his son again after his son kills a Smurf incel and steals his arm

>>712582780
They're skintight

>>712582850
>>712582918
So the Arm of God is some ancient relic taken from an immortal being long ago by humans who ripped the god to shreds because they wanted immortality
But what are the additional hands you see in the Anguished Guardian and Manus fights? Other gods that exist on a separate plane of existence?

>>712582780
>doesn't appreciate skintight pants on a woman that accentuates the slender parts of her body
holy faggola

>>712583042
Hot evil women, love em

>Sophia
>Eugenie
>Red Fox
>Black Rabbit girl
>Markiona
>Antonia
How does P have so much rizz despite being a twink puppet that doesn’t talk?

>>712582683
It's implied that his wife's Ergo didnt' just end up in any maid puppet, but his. His wife's ergo saved Carlo from falling. She also died of petrification disease, which is what killed Carlo later. If only he'd given Carlo a puppet language translator, making his son kill his best friend who he also brought back as a puppet is kinda cruel

>>712583590
Only Sophia loves him romantically
But then again, being loved by the purest soul on Earth is quite an achievement

>>712583264
Yea I don't want women to dress like hussars. I want them to dress like women

>>712583093
The summon you can bring into some fights is P using that bosses weapon and medallion with long white hair coming to help. It's the same god from various timelines converging in one point

>>712583590
Silent ugly guy: "Ew he's so creepy"
Silent twink guy: "He's so mysterious"

>>712583590
Women love young beautiful boys

Are you guys ready for Lies of Oz?

>>712577267
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nP7tkwgmuSA

This was Overture's Feel for me

>>712584292
Yes but given how long this dlc took I'm guessing it wont be out until like 2028
Unless they were working on this and the DLC simultaneously

>>712584368
>Unless they were working on this and the DLC simultaneously
most likely.

>>712584368
Let them cook. LoP was choke full of soul, the sequel would be the same too.
Fuck, never expected this project to turn out this good, although the very first trailer already looked intriguing.

>>712584292
>You can choose 4 characters
>An iron puppet with gameplay similar to Lies of P
>A mutated man that resembles a lion
>Magical based dorothy
>And a deprived like scarecrow.

>>712584368
The DLC had a lot of reused assets (not a bad thing). It probably didn't take them THAT much effort.

I wanted to protect Lea's smile...

>>712584635
>The DLC had a lot of reused assets
It actually significantly modified all the assets it has reused. Even the throwaway filler enemies with returning skeletons got new attacks.

>>712584012
wearing sexy skintight leather is dressing like a woman you unspeakable homo
how are you THIS gay?

>>712584661
I wanted to see her big pouty lips to give me a kiss on my cheek

>>712583896
Does she, though? Always seemed more like deep friendship or sisterly.

>>712584368
According to the neowiz financial report it's aimed for next year, though obviously it can be delayed

>>712585286
Intriguing
Will be a rare Day-1 buy from me then

Imagine being Simon and spending your whole life chasing godhood only to be defeated by this goober

>>712585286
>garghav trilogy

WHAT?

Laxasia barely managed to last a bit over two minutes against monad sword, this weapon is fucking insane. It's not just the fable arts, it's the base moveset too, this thing is a stunlock machine.

I've been trying the gunblade and man it's so fun.

>>712575858
any good blades for my beloved police baton handle?

>>712586604
>equipping the clown nose to fight Simon

>>712587785
The explosive swird (forget the name) might be cool on it

Shh, kitty's sleeping.

>>712588458
TIME TO EXIT MY THREAD

>>712588458
Rip bonbon
:(

bruh wtf are these arlecchino combos, shit's unreadable. Am I supposed to dodge instead of parry many of them?

>replaying the game and still have problem with black rabbit gangrape boss
I'm going to have a rough time with the DLC aren't I?

>>712588806
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2OBMsqDLc8
you're supposed to dodge all of them of course

>>712589042
running away from the combos looks silly and I hate it, and my build is parry-based mjolnir charged R2s so the exact opposite of this fml
Some psychos on youtube seem to have done parry kills so I guess I'll try harder

Jesus fucking christ why is Simon so fucking pathetic
Also Rosaura was just a constant Dorothy tease huh, I wonder if she meet Carlo and that's why Rosaura looks like she does

>>712589625
I was kidding dude, it's obviously a parry based boss even that dude complains about it in the description. Just learn his shit or use Lea

>>712589756
shit yeah you're right I think my brain's just fried after this session, will bite the bullet and learn it. Really wishing I hadn't started this DLC on ng2 right now

Why didn't Geppeto rip out Pinocchio's heart while he was still deactivated and just use Nameless Puppet to kill everything? It's clearly more than strong enough and he wouldn't have had to gamble with P disobeying him.

>>712590117
Ganbare anon!
Consider using the medallion that reduces the effect of break - helps a lit with keeping heals during phase 2

>>712590247
because P's heart needs to gain humanity in the first place

>>712588806
>>712589756
I used lea and have no regrets. The boss is cool and all and first phase is easy enough but my old man eyes cant even fallow what in the fuck hes doing in his second phase. I just let him focus lea while i bonked his ass with a fabel boosted charged electrified giant wrench for like a third of his health

>>712590392
No it doesn't. He rips out your heart even if you have as little humanity as possible.

So P seems to be separate from Carlo but originates from his Ergo anyways? Does that mean Carlo was purposefully not answering Geppetto's calls for him?

>>712584826
Still not 30 bucks-worth, overall.

>>712578849
Sorry only Rosaura porn

>>712590247
Carlo's heart is so filled with malice that turning him on makes him self-destruct with rage and he can only be on for a short while
So geppetto moves his heart to a new puppet that isn't immeasurably angry, so that it can gain more ergo and strengthen the heart before going back to Carlo

>>712591485
You got a source for that in the game? Why would Carlo be so angry? He was good-natured.

>>712575314 (OP)
Is this a console SS, why is it so lq?

>>712591730
Maybe while on the Ergo cloud/mist the alchemist were causing he saw all the shit Geppetto did/caused? There were Lea memories in there

>>712591730
From his boss Ergo
>The nameless puppet was the first puppet made by theold manthat was mounted with a P-Organ. Its Ergo efficiency was not just unremarkable, it was destructive; thus the nameless puppet was not chosen for theboy'sbody and sealed away.
And from the Piercing Hatred amulet
>It is unknown whether theNameless Puppethad an ego. This is because multiple cores holding concentrated Ergo were used to boost its firepower. If this puppet could feel only one emotion, it would be hatred.

While Carlo was a good kid, it's well known he kinda hated his dad

>>712585286
Next FISCAL year that probably end in 2027, like may or something.

Used Lea for the story fight for the extra dialogue and the "CLENCH YOUR FUCKING TEETH" fatal attack animation.
I was able to beat him solo during the refight but still had to rely on the perfect grindstone as a crutch for when he does his super saiyan attack again at around 30% health.

>>712592563
The Lea+MC combo when you crit him in his second phase is the tightest anime shit.

Soo, P it's going to be the tin man in Dorothy game, right?
It's the cowardly lion in the gang be, dunno, a fake Mowgli in the scouting role
I wish we could get a stealth book of the jungle game.
And, in the get go, turn Alice into the gunner of the team

>>712592883
Rosaura is Dorothy.
Broken down swamp robot is the tin man.
P is the bonus boss.

>>712592883
Its more likely to be the puppet you show emotes to I feel like

>>712592191
Not in korea

>>712583343
What’s her backstory anyway?

difficulty ranking so far

markiona>veronique>>>overseer>croc>guardian>lumacchio>green

am I close to the end?

>>712593963
One major fight left

How does it compare to the Nioh 3 demo?
I'm just curious if pretty much all defense styles are viable: block, dodging, parrying or if it leans on 1/2 out of the 3

>>712594132
I spent a lot more time dodging in the DLC compared to the base game because several of the enemies/bosses have long ass strings that will fuck you if you mess up a parry.
If you learn the parry timings it makes things easy as expected, but blocking and dodging are still very viable.

>>712594275
Can you parry the combs? Like one of the things with some of the soulslike games I see is that your character sometimes doesn't react fast enough after parrying something so you can't chain parries together

>>712594132
Parrying is generally the best (though hardest to pull off) but the idea that it's always the best is kind of a surface level view. You have a lot more power over positioning with dodging which can mean being able to pull off extra hits that you wouldn't be able to do with just guarding or parrying. So I find myself using all the options

>>712594527
Think sekiro style parrying, except it's a lot tighter at 8 frames instead of 12.

>>712594527
Yes. If you're good you can parry entire combos. Even the super ultimate attacks bosses have can be parried. It's just very risky if you're not perfect at it because your flow can get thrown off very easily enemies in the DLC hit very hard, even on block, so you can go from 100 to 0 really quick.

why is fable icarus worse than regular icarus

General threads are not allowed in /v/, why don't you losers with nobody to talk with go to /vg/?

what should I play next
ac6, lotf, wo long, nioh 1?

>>712575314 (OP)
Did the nerf patch hit yet?

lol that little green faggot ran away
I guess it makes sense since you fight him in the future

>finally master two dragon sword parry
>mfw

Holy shit, nothing like stop nameless puppet 2nd stage guillotine attack

>>712595163
>"Stop discussing video games on my video games board!"
It's not a general and we're discussing gameplay and story. Threads like these are a diamond in the rough.

>He didn't first time the little green monster
Have you no shame?

>>712575314 (OP)
why is she blue

sex with veronique

shame with didn't get to meet the parrot guy who killed Alidoro

>>712595362
>I guess it makes sense since you fight him in the future
I just realized this despite knowing the DLC takes place in the past and I feel so fucking retarded.
For some reason I thought the swamp monster you fight in the DLC was the same one from the base game that was weakened after you kicked its ass. But it's the other way around. You kick its ass in the past and then it comes back stronger in the future. I was wondering why you couldn't finish it off in the DLC but it has to escape in order to fight it in the future.

So who the fuck did the time travel thing, it must have been another Listener like Sophia no?

>>712595415
Who’s the broad with daddy issues next to the twink?

>>712596815
American McGee

>made a new save to play before I get the DLC
>mfw door guardian
What the fuck? Did they nerf him into the ground or something? I could have swore there was some gimmick you had to do to beat him at release. But here I just walloped that dude into mush in 30 seconds flat just spamming R2. What happened?

Lea... forgive me...

Give me some starter tips bros, I'm starting the base game for the first time

>>712597191
yeah they keep nerfing everything, lame

>carnival has lighting during evening even if there's low chance you'll revisit
soul

>>712575314 (OP)
I hate Sen's Fortress, fuck platforming and dying to fall damage because you missed a jump or got pushed

>>712584960
I don't know why but for a second I thought this image was that cunt ventrue faggot from VtmB with a female face filter on

>>712598030
That platforming area in the Cathedral is pure cancer.

hold up did this dude always do the stalkers salute or is it because i'm wearing black rabbit clothes

wasn't the door guardian a big machine? I don't remember him having that green weak spot on the leg or being a living monster

Any Dorothy lore in this?

>>712598370
Fuck me for having a corrupted save file, now i have to redo that cathedral which always drives me nuts. Sure, the first 2 attempts are fine since I stock up on throwables but if you mess up good fucking luck avoiding/defeating the snipers

I liked Lies of P a lot but 30 bucks feels like a lot
Is this DLC worth it?

>>712599298
Depends on how much you liked the base game. Personally, LoP was my GotY for 2023 and one of my favorite games of all time so I bought the DLC the second I could after it was shadow dropped.

>>712598824
His leg was always his "weak point" but they added the green shit on it to make it more obvious. I have no idea why people even complained about him to the point he needed to be nerfed. He was slow as fuck and you literally just had to keep hitting his leg to stagger him and then could kill him in a couple of fatal attacks. It was a pure gimmick fight, and not even a hard one.
>>712599063
You meet a puppet who you help find her pair of red shoes and it's highly implied she has the Ergo of Carlo's sister inside her. No idea how this will tie into the sequel.
>>712599298
$30 is a bit steep if you're struggling, but if you really liked the base game I'd go for it. It's pretty well made overall. All the new weapons added are really fun and have unique movesets and gimmicks instead of being reskins of existing weapons. Bosses are ok except for maybe 1, and all the new lore stuff is nice as well.

>>712599493
>>712599519
Yeah I loved the Base
Bought
Im lies of PEAKing rn
(funnily enough I played on gamepassfirst before I got it on PC as a gift so I actually have to replay the whole game anyways to get to the DLC lmao)

>>712597365
that is by far the ugliest weapon in the game

This is Carlo's mom, right?

>>712599519
>spoiler
I don't think that's the case. A sister is never once mentioned anywhere in the base game. I think it's more likely that she's just a puppet that either Geppetto or Camille came up with to be a friend for Carlo when he was a little boy, as well as a nod to the sequel being Wizard of Oz with Dorothy and her obvious ruby slippers

>transforming elephant

>>712600082
I knew there was going to be something up with it as soon as I saw how big of an area they give you to fight it. Wasn't expecting what actually happened though.

>>712600040
Yeah, that's probably just me reaching. But whenever I see the completed drawing that's just what my mind defaulted to.

>>712600002
yeah

>>712600221
All good man. I almost went down a similar path of thinking assuming I had missed something but the more I thought about it, the more my idea made sense to me. Though who knows, I could be completely wrong in the end.

I'm retarded and not home to read item descriptions right now. What was the Ruins Guardian? Was it something the Alchemist created with Ergo or something they discovered and decided to experiment on?

bro Lea's sword L1 fable art is busted as fuck

>>712598804
actually it might be because of the weapon, the crazy guy at the factory also did the salute (a second time after doing the scripted one at the start of the fight)

>>712583343
Putting Markiona in a cage and asking her how she likes it!
Making it a weird sexual thing!
Sex with blue women!

Okay, but seriously. What the fuck happened to Lea? Is she really the old lady in charge of the hotel or not? Can this fucking story stop cock teasing me already with these blue balling endings that never clarify shit? Dark Souls was such a mistake on the narrative process.

>>712601294
>Is she really the old lady in charge of the hotel
Bro?

>>712598370
Archon fleet of shipwrecks in the DLC is way worse

>>712601294
Anon she very clearly got iced by Gepetto. One more reason to put your father in the ground

>>712595410
Now try doing it against Veronique. You haven't mastered shit.

>>712601172
nuts they bothered with something like this, doing the salute with any other weapon doesnt give a reaction

>>712594708
>8 frames
this is such fucking bullshit

>>712601361
It's not that bad, you can run to the end to take out the cannon guy and then do it backwards

>>712601294
Did you think Gepetto whipped out the Nameless Puppet to have a nice chat with her?

>>712601351

yo you get a dialogue option if you equip Lea's clothes

>>712601664
wrong pic, disregard that, I Suck cocks
>>712601351

Romeo grew up quite a bit older since the last time hes seen Carlo in the flesh
it'd still be kinda funny how Puppet Carlo grows up a bit in the sequel too

Some Korean autist managed to parry all of the attacks with the dragon sword. But I'm convinced you have to legitimately have the reflexes of an F1 racer just to parry half the shit in this game, much less the combos from the final boss in the DLC. Only a Korean prodigy with superior autistic Asian genes could no-damage, solo run the final boss off Overture.

Do I have to blow the horn for a quest?

>>712597460
If they would just nerf the 8 frame parry bullshit, everything else would fall into place. But no one ever listens to me. No sir.

>>712575314 (OP)
Baton Handle+Puppet Axe is the best weapon in the game

Something I don't get is why unleash the carcasses on the masses instead of just continuing the experiments quietly in the Isle of Alchemists until you perfected the god formula? What does destroying your means of acquiring resources accomplish to help your plan when you already needed a mass spread of the Petrification Disease anyway?

>>712602143
If you're talking about Ongbal, he's not just some random autist. He worked as a battle consultant for Lies of P (and I think Khazan too) so he's a fair bit better than your average person. Even then he admits it takes him hours of practice to get those perfect runs down. Still crazy fucking reflexes needed though, yeah.
>>712602163
It just gives you some extra dialogue during the fight, but you don't miss out on any rewards or questlines if you don't use it.

>>712602163
answer

>>712595317
Not yet but I figure it'll come sometime next week

>>712602356
They intentionally did it as a way to test the effects of Ergo on people and to run more experiments. They never intended to cure it in the first place.
Simon and the Alchemists in general are just fucking assholes. They intentionally incorporated Ergo into daily life as much as possible knowing full well what would happen so there was no stopping the outbreak once it went into full swing. They probably could have kept it contained but to them the more people infected the better so they had no problem letting it ravage the city.

>>712597451
Weapon damage scalers (Technique, Motivity, Advance) all hard lock at 60. Don't bother trying to level up more than one damage scaler for your first run. Pick one and only one and stick with until you get 30 points into it. Health and vitality are also the same way kind of. They both soft lock at 30 and fall off hard at 60 IIRC. But the game is infinitely repeatable, so eventually you can just get every stat to 100 anyway. But basically, focus on getting Vitality and your damage scaler starting off, with stamina in close third.

Avoid the heavy, slow-swinging weapons for your first time through, they're shit for the most part. This game HATES STR builds something fierce, and will never let you forget that fact. The game also HATES Advance builds mostly due to the fact that there's barely any Advance weapons in the fucking game. But it's not the same issue as Motivity builds fo the most part (STR). It's all about Technique with this shit. For Legion arms, focus on Fulminis, Aegis, or Puppet String. Ignore Deus Ex Machina and And Pandemonium like a cloud of airborne AIDS. The DLC legion arms will basically render Falcon Eyes obsolete anyway. Lie all the time, every time.

answers for the riddles are:
human
egg
candle
Ergo
No, I am not a murderer
Yes, I am human

>>712602358
>battle consultant
This explains so fucking much. THIS IS WHY YOU NEVER BALANCE YOUR GAME BASED ON THE TOP 1%

>>712602613
Is Ergo just the physical manifestation of someone's soul or is it the unnatural byproduct of Kroud? Kind of wish the game went more in-depth with the exposition on those black rocks, honestly.

What will be Dorothy's game name? Lies of P 2? Roads of D?

>>712601294
>>712601732
Nah she's not the old lady, but she is friends with her so it's possible she met with her before she passed and added that memo.
As for what happened to her, it's notable that Gepetto's monocle can be found at the site of the final dlc boss fight, perhaps indicating that there was a struggle and Lea escaped. Although it's hard to imagine that she would leave without Carlo, so maybe something else happened? It is a mystery.

>>712603437
Meant "leave without Romeo"

I'm starting to think parry was mistake, and just realize that after E33 the industry is going down the wrong path.

>>712603195
Ergo has always been around. It's basically a person's "soul", but when someone dies it usually just disperses harmlessly. But when Kroud is around it's able to absorb it and crystallize it. Still, in that form it wasn't considered valuable until they discovered that people like Sophia could hear the past voices and memories of a person within the Ergo. When the Alchemists arrived they discovered the Ruins which had a ton of Ergo inside of it because it was full of Kroud that was absorbing it, and from there they did experiments and found out they could use it for stuff like powering puppets. Things evolved from there and they started experimenting with more, eventually leading to Simon's sect wanting to use it as a way to evolve and become God and yada yada.
The only thing that's not really explained well is how it lets you fuck with time.

>>712603676
holy fuck thank you, this clarifies so much. Now, if we just could just figure out what in the ever loving fuck the alchemists discovered in those ruins that was apparently a god?? Or an angel?

>>712603794
think less christian religion and probably closer to primitive

This game is getting more and more ridiculous. This isn't even fun.

>>712599519
>I have no idea why people even complained about him to the point he needed to be nerfed.
They must be sick of hearing dummies conplain about shit, because the handholding in Overture is next level

>>712604004
How many times do people have to tell you to stop using the club lmao

>>712603794
I'm fairly certain the Arm of God came from the Ruins Guardian in the DLC. The Alchemists in the past discovered it and took its arm to experiment on it. How the Ruins Guardian got there or what it truly is hasn't been explained yet, but will probably be touched on in the DLC. In the True Ending, Paracelsus refers to everything that happened in Krat as an "experiment" so there's clearly a higher sect of Alchemists doing even shadier shit.

>>712604318
>touched on in the DLC
*in the sequel, I meant.

>>712604227
I won. I beat the game.

>rush blasting through all DLC enemies with lea at your side
>zoo bears and apes that were so hard at the start getting utterly smashed
kino

>>712604548
I knew you could do it

>>712604318
its also possible the ruins guardian is just a gate keeper the arm of god is some where else or made by some other part of the civilization's parts

is-a me, pinocchio

Ending of the base game is massive sequel bait. Will it ever happen?

>>712605003
I mean its only planned for next year

>>712605003
They already confirmed they're working on the sequel, so unless they suddenly run out of funds for development it should probably be out next year at the earliest.

Playing as a cute girl in a frilly dress killing lovecraftian shit is finna be kino.

>>712605481
I'm really mixed and wondering how they're going to handle a sequel. Playing as Dorothy makes sense, but I've really gotten attached to P especially after the DLC and want him to come back as well. And this doesn't seem like the type of game to do a dual-protagonist type thing.

>>712605126
>>712605198
Well, that's nice to know, I do wonder where things can go from here, though I suppose saying Kroud can grow anywhere is an easy way to just have it all again somewhere else.

>>712605716
It might be a completely different setting. The True Ending implies that the Alchemists are doing different experiments in multiple places, and Krat was just one of their test sites. So we might be going to an entirely new city.

game: beaten

How do I get better at lies of p.
Should I be perfect guarding literally everything, or just dodge.
Is there a particular stat that is vastly super to the others?
How hard is the dlc
I haven't played in well over a year but I really loved the game. But when it came to bosses like the lightning lady at the end, I had to summon. I think I was always changing my weapons too.

>>712590502
Making him, the ground, his attacks, his aoe, leas attacks all the same color makes things visually tough.

>>712605716
The ending pretty much states that the alchemist have discovered alternate ways of immortality.
IMO, the important one is probably the wish granting deity and ancient aliens mentioned here and there.
If there's a right arm of god, then there must be other body parts of god.

>>712605810
>>712606032
Wonder if it'll stay Pinocchio themed or if a different immortality attempt means a different fairy tale theme for it like Peter Pan and staying forever young.

>>712603581
You will be playing parryslop until you die.

>>712606032
This game has the worst lore delivery so far not all the souls. Unironically dark souls does to better through the items.

upgrades for boss weapons are so fucking rare

>>712606319
>This game has the worst lore delivery so far not all the souls.
It's really not that hard to piece shit together if you read and listen.

>>712606606
are you doing all the side quests? I get more material than I need

>>712606319
The general story is pretty easy to follow.
The only really confusing stuff is trying to figure out exactly when certain events occurred in the timeline because of the whole time fuckery plot, and the DLC didn't make it any easier.

Imagine the smell
all that time inside that dirty ass armor

>>712605993
Why do all that when two shots with Cataclysm could achieve the same result?

>>712607048
she makes my P organ throb

>>712607048
>>712607259
>your springs are reacting

>>712605995
>Should I be perfect guarding literally everything, or just dodge.
Perfect guard attacks that you feel reasonably confident in and block or dodge attacks you aren't - guard regain is really strong and overlooked as long as you avoid any "proper" hits
>Is there a particular stat that is vastly super to the others?
Not really but Capacity is one you can't go wrong with since it lets you equip more better shit
>How hard is the dlc
Fairly. Final boss is tougher than any in base game
>I think I was always changing my weapons too.
Make sure to keep any weapon used as upgraded as possible

>>712607048
Was it really necessary to make her skin so... detailed?

>>712607692
that's not official, right?

>>712575465
Heres a higher rez

>fwuu
>fwuu
>clink

>>712575858
Laxasia’s blade is broken if you equip the amulet that lets you dodge without any stamina. Was using that on NG+ for against Romeos chimp out and I’m literally a fucking anime character it’s actually beautiful. Oh and Gunblade is the greatest weapon to ever be in a souls game hands down no fucking contest lol

>>712579252
I was getting fucking ass raped on NG+3 and by then I literally had everyone Cock Organ unlocked with 3 legion arms and 3 weapons slots at mid weight. What that other anon was saying about not running out legion in NG+ and beyond is 100 true but it doesn’t make the game that much easier. It’s just one less resource you have to worry about.

I fucking despise the black rabbit brotherhood. Characters that are all so "lmao its kill or be killed I'm killing everyone!" have no fucking right to be mad when someone shows up to show that the second part of that philosophy applies to them too.

>>712584368
They literally pumped out LoP in 3 years. They already have the sequel slated for 2026 but considering how stacked next year could be I could see them pushing it back. But who knows.

>>712608915
They got what was coming to them but I still like them.

>>712607898
Yeah, though it's not an areola, just shading

WHEN should I do the dlc

>>712609967
whenever, you're gonna get flattened by everything in 2 hits even at 100+ anyway

>>712609967
imo do it right after the second black rabbit brotherhood fight. Then ride the Pistris to the last area of the game. That way you don't miss dialogue in the base game for having finished the DLC

>>712609967
The difficulty is harder than any area in the base game, but finishing the DLC adds some dialogue to the base game.

Handholding with Rosaura!

Just beat the guardian, I'm assuming chapter 4 is probably the last. I used the dragon glaive this time and this thing is definitely good. Didn't even have it at level 5, only 3 since I need more upgrade materials.

Also I should correct some misinformation that I posted earlier like a tard. I said that Icarus carried elemental grindstone effects which is not true. I had just unlocked it and fought the mini swamp monster with it while using a fire buff. For some reason I thought the orange glow of the enhanced blades was fire but after using it more today I realize that it doesn't carry the element, that's just the built in visual effect of the buffed blades.

>>712611168
>I used the dragon glaive
>beat
anon...

>>712576171
You are dogshit at the game, and you basically even admitted why. git gud, faggot

>>712611271
Yes, that's right. I'm assuming you think it's OP or something but I alternated weapons on each attempt and could do large amounts of damage with other weapons as well. Also it wasn't even maxed, I could've booster glaived it if I really wanted to burst it down. I had plenty of good bow runs as well.

What's your vitality level at?

>>712611872
100

>>712595646
GOAT

>>712611872
30 on NG+

>>712575314 (OP)
Khazan the last berserker is better. As is Lords of the Fallen (2023)

Imagine awakening your ego and you're a disfigured baby doll.

does ng+ affect boss rematch difficulty? im getting slaughtered by level 5 arlecchino

>>712612201
No. Boss rematch uses Legendary Stalker as a base, but it has its own scaling regardless of your NG cycle.

>>712612148
>Khazan the last berserker
lol
>Lords of the Fallen (2023)
lmao

I really, really like Venigni's characterization. The guy's such a massive caricature of every top rich, self absorbed asshole guy except it turns out that's all just very superficial and he's actually a swell guy underneath it all.

>>712612520
He's great. And his bro, too.

>>712611872
25 ng+ just beat dlc

imagine

>>712575858
Personally my favorite are claws weapon. Also secondary weapon is bow. I'd say bow is quite good for some situations but needs a bit dmg buff.

>>712600547
It's an ancient warrior that wielded the Covenant spear (go check it's description). They found it at the relic, then reverse engineered the 'cure'/'elixer' to make the carcass monsters with.

>>712614839
I would have been first to die in the apuppetclypse, that's for sure

>>712614839
There's a reason their hips are so wide. Surely you can also choose the padding as in a sofa.

Do bosses and enemies have higher elemental/status resistances on higher NG+ cycles? Before the patch that increases NG+ scaling, I was always able to proc any element with just 2 throwables, but now it takes like 5.

Who is stronger, P or General Khazan?

I had forgotten about this dlc, nice one more thing to do while i finish the game for the third time. Lies of P is great. One of the few soulslikes i really like to play all the way through.

Who or WHAT even is Gemini? I can’t believe the DLC didn’t touch on this, unless I missed something. I really seems like they added more questions to his identity than answers.

>>712619814
There's a line at the beach flashbacks after finsihing the DLC that implies Gemini was a puppet servant of Lea/the Monad family.

Yeah I think I'm done for today

Spent the whole dlc dodging instead of parrying but this asshole is a parry check

She's probably still warm...

So in the DLC, the puppet frenzy hasn't happened yet?

>>712620153
Stop being an i-frame cuck and start sprinting away more.

>>712620153

>>712589042

>>712620863
Yeah, whatever happened in the DLC gets covered up and Krat keeps going as usual until the main game.

>>712620863
Nope. Romeo hasn't been made into the Puppet King yet, which was part of Gepetto's plan to start to Frenzy. But at the end of the DLC he presumably kills Lea and takes Romeo's body to do just that.
The stuff that happens in the DLC is caused by the Alchemists still dicking around with Ergo's effects on puppets and their early stages of experimenting on people with the Petrification Disease, leading to the creation of Carcasses. That's why there's a whole secret facility with "patients" in it. The shit that went down at Krat Zoo may have been the first signs of the outbreak, but they covered it up by saying that it burned down in a fire.

who that

Holy hell her boss fight was awesome
2v1 fight done right From should take notes

>>712592883
How can you play through the entire game and think that P is going to be the man who gains emotions when we just played the game that does it ???

>>712598804
kino

>>712622369
It'll probably be the broken puppet

pov: lies of p sunsets healed you

if you used matching blades and handles, you played the game wrong

I couldn't imagine the game without the gunblade now

>>712606319
This has to be bait. Fromshit stories aren't even finished and full of plot holes.

>>712575314 (OP)
seems like i have to buy this game now...

Anguished Guardian is literally fucking impossible on difficulty 5. I have 1000hp and this guy is TWO SHOTTING ME with every attack while having a mountain of hp.

>>712624442
On the contrary, I was very disappointed in him.
I didn't like the attacks, especially with bounces, it hinders positioning and you have to make a lot of unnecessary movements to get closer or wait until the enemy himself deigns to approach.
Beautiful of course to record showcase as a shotgun and gunblade cool kill a bum with a single blow, but for the main weapon is somehow too inconvenient.

>>712624442
Same, I love everything about it. Its heavy attack is so quick.

>>712625916
I'm the opposite, I love the moveset since it moves you around, which is nice because being bounced back usually puts you out of danger and you can gapclose immediately after, your standard combo can also be chained into a explosion combo which is great. The sound design is also fucking excellent, the slashes are crunchy, the explosions are meaty and I love the little clicks/whirring of the mechanism resetting, as well as the load/dropping shells
I love this thing, especially with a few p-organ upgrades like upgraded stagger, longer fable art duration and so forth, its my GOAT weapon, combine with Cataclysm and you have an explosive build that's fun as fuck and brutally efficient

>>712624442
>gunblade
>fire grindstone
>shotgun arm
I kinda hate LoP for the bullshit it has with bosses, but I like this part.

>>712612148
>Khazan
Good, but it's no Lies of P.
>Lords of the Fallen
Okay, you can't make it too obvious.

>>712575314 (OP)
Boys Love?

>>712627251
v2 seems to be a big upgrate

>>712612201
level 5 arlecchino is effectively the games hardest challenge

Get the amulet... this shit is so ass...

I didn't have those kino sequences with the joint attacks on the way to the manor like in the story trailer
It's Leaover Bros, I didn't beat dlc.

>>712612259
>>712627476
if boss rematch has its own scaling, then what level is regular game legendary stalker arlechinno? i beat regular game arlecchino on legendary stalker without lea but level 5 boss rematch arlechinno is wild, seems like it does more damage

>>712628030
If you don't like the claws don't use them, but the amulet is not better. No idea if it's a bug or not but autists have crunched the numbers and did testing and the amulet is actually a DPS loss because of how the damage formula is calculated.

Now that LoP has established itself in most soulsfans' head, what can fromsoft learn from LoP for their next game?
for me personally they should copy the handle+blade system or at least modify it a bit

>>712629276
everything. Neowiz has surpassed From just by their first installment

>>712597595
They should've introduced some endgame event there at nighttime.

>>712576595
The Lords of the Fallen thread is down the hall to the right bro.

>>712629276
Low block rates but allow players to regain the health by attacking. It makes blocking really good without it being exploitable.

tomboy Lea vs cute Sophie

>>712629456
nah man fromsoft's level design is miles ahead than LoP's, but I agree with everything else

Why did my Golden Lie become ugly in NG+?
It lost all the golden leaves and coins, and the golden colouring.

>>712630545
Scales with your current Humanity which gets reset, it only max out again when you kill Sophia.

i'm playing through the base game
just popping in to say
FUCK the mad clown puppet.
i killed 2 of them, let's hope there's no more of these fuckers

>>712629276
Taking P combat system in its entirety and putting it into a From level design.

>>712629276
>what can fromsoft learn from LoP for their next game?
TELL A MOTHERFUCKING STORY
Stop with the vague ass lorefaggotry. Just tell a normal story like in Armored Core 6 and Sekiro.
LoP has by far the best story of any soulslike game exactly because it just TELLS it.

>>712629276
having actual story

>>712629276
Boss weapons that actually feel unique and not the generic ass moveset with the special ash of war.

Aaaand that's all bosses done at +5.

I like that Markiona's badge is a boot. These gooks know their audience.

>>712631032
Wait, you get visual badges out of it?

>>712631156
Yeah, they go on your little bag. Can't see them at all unless you're looking for them, but whatever, they're there.

>>712629276
This >>712630950

Fromsoftware needs to stop doing rewrites a few months before launch and scrambling to implement (broken) questlines at the last minute. They always just turn the level designers and artists loose and then jury-rig some nonsensical dialogues and item descriptions around it, and the fanbase eats it up as "muh deep lore".

LoP suffers from similar issues with the terrible translations (though much improved in the DLC), but at least it does have a defined story and timeline with only some mystery and ambiguity after you piece it all together.

TICK TOCK

Why were none of the other Alchemists able to stop Simon? Half the shit that happens is a result of him just doing whatever he wants like
>"Yo wouldn't it be funny if we put a murderer's Ergo in a puppet?"
and shit like that.

>>712629276
better boss weapons
less roll spam
they should 100% steal the Pulse Charge recharge mechanic
the ability to make hard bosses that don't feel like bullshit
less is more, open world is a meme
don't reuse a boss for your DLC final boss
having a story that isn't just lore

>>712631976
He had charism to gather followers while Valentinus was weak and let it happen

>>712631976
Simon just kills anyone who goes against him. You need the whole group to rebel, and he already has allies.

>>712631976
>Why were none of the other Alchemists able to stop Simon
Because from a certain point of view, he did nothing wrong and simply followed their agenda. He also got actual results.
Basically he turned the local alchemists into his own personal cult and had results to back it up.

i'm happy with the new difficulty settings
fromsoft did good as well with ranged weapons and unlimited ammo in their dlc

>>712632198
>fromsoft did good as well with ranged weapons and unlimited ammo in their dlc
LoP's bow makes all smithscript weapons look like overnerfed toys.

>>712631976
Valentinus did try to stop him and warned the higher-ups about him, but they apparently turned a blind eye because he was getting "results". Paracelsus says that the experiment in Krat was a success, so it's very likely they knew what Simon was doing and just let everything play out simply so they could see what would happen.

Finally a game where people actually discuss the game and not the drama surrounding it. Guess it’s good

>>712629276
Something like the P-organ. Feels great every time you get a quartz and can add something to enhance your character, other than just levels and weapon levels.

>>712631867
ROMEO'S ON THE CLOCK

>make a fun as fuck weapon assembly system
>but also introduce boss weapons that are mechanically insane and completely dwarf the assembly system

>>712632543
Oh yeah, P-organ is an amazing system, especially the insane new passives you get on ng++.
Now when i think about it, only Niohs did something similar with the samurai and demon skills.

>>712632582
I still use The Chode on puppets.

>>712632467
Honestly between Overture, the new Rune Factory, Stellar Blade on pc, and E33, this has been a good few months for games. I'm having fun

>>712632582
You could still do some pretty cool stuff with the new assembly weapons in the DLC, so the boss weapons don't "completely" overshadow them. Stuff like running around with the rocket spear and Laxasia's lightning blade are cool.
The Rose Sword being completely over the top is the only thing that feels overtuned, but it's fair to finally get a legendary weapon that lives up to its status gameplay wise.

>>712582850
KINO

>2v1
>alt+f4
fuck this gay shit
im refunding

>"Yo wouldn't it be funny if we put a murderer's Ergo in a puppet?"
It's kinda funny

>>712632865
lol

>>712632865
don't you autolock to the guy that is going to attack you? use that to your advantage

>>712632925
with villain moustache too , miss a hat

>>712632582
As opposed to Fromshit where boss weapons are a waste of time as the regular smuck weapons completely overshadow them.

>>712632865
use ghost

>>712633049
so it's just only one attacking? alright then i will start the game again now

>>712633125
I didn't even fight the puppet. I just focused down the blue bitch while dodging the puppet.

>>712633125
>>712632865
It's a pretty well designed fight. Rather than both of them going turbo and attacking you constantly, they take "turns" where one is mostly aggressive while the other one kind of floats around and throws out the occasional attack. When the strings flash red that's the signal that she's taking control of the puppet and it's going to become aggressive, so you know to watch out for it.

>>712633084
Oh, i'm not defending fromsoft weapon design either, they peaked at bloodborne then deteriorated with Elden Ring
SOTE was pitiful in that aspect in particular, the vast majority of boss weapons are varying degrees of ass mechanically.

I used Lea in the final fight. No regrets. It was very cool.

>>712625896
Have you tried not getting hit?

>>712633384
it's the intended way, not using her is just the challenging way

>>712632582
Some of the assemblable dlc weapons are actually pretty broken.
Flamethrower handle is good when paired with elemental heads to allow 2 different elements on 1 weapons. The bunsen burner blade is also very fast for how long it is.
La Vendatta blade has really high block for it's speed and the explosion gimmick.
Silent evangelist handle is probably the strongest handles in the game. Decent speed, huge weapon arc and forward movement.
If you want something funny, combine the puppet of the future blade with the silent evangelist handle. For one that actually works, use the bones-cutting saw blade instead.

Cool area but why doesn't it have any bosses

>>712633250
also they re faggots with ranged weapons when pvp barely exists and most of the op gameplay its press l2

>>712629276
For the love of god, let us add souls/currency straight from the merchant/upgrade menus instead of having to go into your menu or another window to sell them.

>>712633626
its a themepark duh also there is a fucking clown miniboss but need a coin to unlock

>>712632865
It's literally the most fair duo fight in any Souls game.

Silent Evangelists' Mace Handle + Arche's Guardian Blade is a fun combo

>>712633602
>Flamethrower
Oh yeah, that thing is just as good as boss weapons.

I never noticed until now that the golden tree is a woman.

>>712633631
Fromsoft weapons will never be fun until they stop balancing them for PvP.

>>712633752
>It's literally the most fair duo fight in any Souls game.

>>712633752
in what ? i emty puppet and doesnt permadie and the bitch go full korean mmo sorcerer combos

>>712633813
We're basically saving Sophia from the same fate.

>>712633780
Too slow, try pinwheel handle

>>712633851
too much downtime and randomly the one not spitting poison combos you same as friede and her fat

>>712633626
The Harlequin juggler is harder than some bosses. They could've literally given him a health bar and nobody would complain.

>>712633909
The one not spitting poison is the one you're meant to be fighting, retard.

>>712633874
I tried that. I much prefer the reach of the Silent Evangelist. Just gotta keep up the lightning buff so yer fast as fuck.

>>712633987
Alright

The shotgun arm feels so cool the Icarus one seems gay

>>712634036
Icarus would've been great if it tracked.
Not tracking seriously gimps it's damage potential.

The DLC is surprisingly comfy for something that guides us through the shittiest dark secrets of the city. Feels a lot like resident evil games atmosphere-wise, there's always some sort of a small comfy downtime.

I'm still a puppet string guy. If Cataclysm weaved better I'd use it. Like, I want to finish off my combo with stored shot, but the small delay is just a hair too long, and I feel like I get punished far too often.

>Ah, you were by my side, all along...

This lil nigga carried me through the DLC like you wouldn't believe.

>>712631976
Because they did what Simon said.

>>712632582
Only the monad sword and two dragon are on a league of their own
But there is no reason to use any handles from the base game because literally everything in the dlc have shorter windups and less recovery time

Is it true that you can't rematch the Crocodile or Lumacchio

My favorite aspect of the combat is breaking enemy weapons by parrying them. I swear this one little mechanic is so satisfying to pull off even though if you've got parrying down enough to make it happen you clearly don't need the advantage it provides.

>>712634609
I wish Aegis had its own dedicated slot and you always guarded by using it.

>>712632686

I keep wanting to call it the Monado

>>712634784
It's true. Same with the chick with the hammer. It's giga lame.

King of Puppets fight hits different on NG+.

>Monad's sword is actually nothing special lore-wise, it's just a blade
>P goes completely apeshit with it because he feels connection with Lea

>>712631032
i cant beat any of the level 5 rematch dlc bosses yet, very sad

Why did Pupetto do this, guys, why does he have to be such a faggot?

>>712635061
THE MONADO THE MONADO THE MONADO

>>712635426
Lea and Carlo had no chill.

>>712635426
We already knew how it ended, just not how it happened

>Flamethrower + Strategist's Amulet + Nightmare's Amulet

>>712575314 (OP)
Why's she blue exactly? Did she drink some alchemist potion
Haven't got the DLC yet

My game keeps crashing Says I got a line 693 error. Anyone have this issue? I am getting pissed off because I have to finish boss battles super quickly it crashes mid fights

>>712635586
>put fire knife head on flame thrower handle
>find out both effects stack
I love this fucking thing, almost makes up for getting no new adv scaling legion arm

>>712605993
>L2, L2 with puppet string
>charged R2 + charged R2 with any bonk weapon
You can kill any pullable enemy in the game like that without taking any damage. The ability to instantly down an enemy with the press of a button is completely broken and many people don't know you can do that with PS.

>>712635806
I tried that too but the range loss just felt kind of annoying.

>>712635912
Its an acceptable drawback for the sheer amount of damage you do by standing close and holding down r1
I wouldn't do it while exploring, but for a boss? oh yeah, its amazing

Give it up for P(enis)!

>>712635635
Presumably she's like Laxasia and she was enhanced by drinking a elixir made from studying the Petrification Disease and turning blue is just a side effect. It comes up a few times in the DLC.

what the FUCK was his problem?!

>>712635172
No way, hopefully they end up rectifying that in the update

>>712635426
Back then, he was clearly working with Simon. He was there to clean up the mess and remove the survivors. He also gained Romeo and turned him into a puppet as a test run for his tech.

>>712635757
>he boughted AYYMD

>>712636181
Neglectful sperg who was only made somewhat functional due to the influence of his wife.
Once she died he immediately went back to being a shitter.

>>712636181
dead son + autistic devotion to ambition + sociopathy (except not really because he cared about his dead son so I guess selective sociopath)

>>712636347
I'm gonna try build a new PC and I was pondering AMD or Nvidia, I know AMD is a meme but hearing that new Nvidia GPUs are literally frying connector cables has made me unsure, not to mention that now its Nvidia that's been suffering shitty drivers

> two young men were given a woman not much older than them as a mentor

I hope she taught them everything they needed to know, I just wonder if they had paired fencing.

>>712636181
>be an awkward dude who is superfocused on his work
>find a wonderful girl and fall in love with her, she gives birth to your son
>but then she dies
>her Ergo ends up in your own maid puppet who awakens her ego
>alchemists confiscate her and tear her apart to learn her secrets
>bury yourself in your work again, push your son aside so at least he could grow up in a happy environment surrounded by friends
>ooops, son is dead too
>lost any reason for living but realised he can use the ergo tech to bring the son back
>vowed to do it no matter the cost, no matter what genuinely terrible crimes he has to commit

>>712635426
Why did Lea have such kissable lips?

>>712636861
to kiss the ground after getting dunked on by NP

>TIME TO EXIT MY STAGE

>>712636350
Asians sure love this archetype for antagonists, probably a evangelion influence.

>>712637046
>"LADIES AND GENTLEMAN!
>"I, ARLECCHINO, WILL ANALYZE THE ONLY MEDIUM THAT MATTERS, THE HUMAN SOUL!

https://x.com/dvinaamesca/status/1933862831423668383
cute

>>712632686
STOP RESISTING

>>712637463
that's the first thing I did after I got that gesture lol

>>712635586
can you explain exactly what nightmares amulet does?

is there even a light load where your dashes cost less stamina or go further

>>712637668
gives you bad dreams

>>712637668
if an enemy is suffering from an ailment, they take more damage from attacks that do that ailment
so if you have a fire weapon and inflict burn on an enemy, they will now take more damage from your fire weapon, its insanely good for elemental weapons and advance builds

>>712637815
thanks man, dont know why but i just couldnt understand the description on the damn thing

>>712632772
>legendary weapon that lives up to its status gameplay wise.
more like its like katana soul of the sword lore and lea and carlo are connected as master and student to the point that he replicates her technique perfectly
could be an excuse to also detach fable arts from weapon/parts in the next game

>>712637463
For me she didn't react to the dance, eh

>>712634792
>Struggling hardcore against older rabbit bro
>His sword randomly breaks after a parry
>Suddenly EZ fight

>>712638482
I love breaking a bosses weapon, its really rewarding to break it and now their offensive power has been greatly diminished

>>712638482
That's how I beat those bastards. Kill the small guys and just parry the big guy every time until his sword breaks, then rape him.

>>712638392
not enough rizz, you need to mew more

I will definitely live long enough to afford a puppet wife.

The Atoned might be Lea.
She has red hair, she could not save the ones she loved, and she has corruption attacks as if she had petrification disease.

>>712639568
I can't believe Rudolph is dead

>>712639835

>>712583590
He's attractive and can look stylish in various outfits. Personally I'm rocking Battle Maniac mask and Eldest Brother armor for a rabbit themed stalker look and it's kind of neat storywise then have him maybe remove the mask at the endgame

>>712584292
>>712584617
I'm thinking its going to be
>Dorothy
>Swamp Emote Puppet Friend
>Klaus
>Arlecchino 4.0

>>712640351
the puppet emote being tin man would be kino

>>712590247
It needed more Ergo and Nameless Puppet was way too volatile and destructive for his plan. It was good for quick duels, not for long term quests

I just realized Paracelsus also has grey hair.

how to cheese level 5 arlecchino rematch

>>712600002
Gepetto really was a dick huh?
>Let me go back to the afterlife with Carlo
>Sorry hon' but not only is that not happening but I am yanking Carlo from there for myself while there's still time to lol

>>712607692
Simon was such a fucking retard holy shit

>>712608915
Felt great using Rose Sword Judgement Cut to rape their asses

If I see one more post calling P "Carlo" and insinuating they are the same person I'm gonna fucking shit. Rosaura even says they aren't the same fucking person, I don't know how more obvious the game needs to make it before people stop saying this.

>>712621895
Merchant guy at the carnival talks about a bunch of thieves who stole a crown and one of em nicked off with it. That guy was the thief from the story

>>712641121
If Arlecchino the Puppet is Arlecchino the Murderer, than MC is Carlo. COPE.

>>712629276
Its more of an apples and oranges or different types of apples situation. I did like the more coherent actual present time story and characters of Lies of P but I also enjoy the vague "put it together" story of FROM games. Depends what you are the mood for.

Oh music records were comfy too and P-Organ unlocks. Revealing entire new phases of the P-Organ powers on each succeeding NG+ runs was a great incentive to play through again

Any mod to switch out the OST for E33's OST?

>>712641121
P does have Carlo's soul tho. He is basically a puppet reincarnation of Carlo. Lea even calls him Carlo.
P isn't Carlo, but he isn't also isn't not Carlo.

>>712632865
It's more like 1.5v1. The puppet add is basically a club that just fucks around doing nothing until she activates it with the orange string telegraph

KINO

ARLEKINO

>>712641360
Yeah, check this out
https://lies-of-p.fandom.com/wiki/Last_Resort

>>712635184
Hits even more after the DLC
>>712635426
Collecting Romeo for the puppet scheme (hence why he nods in reassurance to Lea) and generally cleaning house. Who knows? Maybe there is a puppet Lea out there somewhere or in storage

>>712639568
>his family hated it so much they crashed the wedding

>>712641121
Rosaura's not a good judge because she doesn't know anything about ergo and wouldn't have a reason to believe Carlo could come back to life somehow.
Because P is a silent protagonist it's ambiguous to me how much of Carlo he's like, but characters like Romeo and Sophia are basically their old selves in puppet bodies.

>>712584292
I wonder if instead of Legion Arms she'll get enhanced shoes.

>>712641121
He is though. Just look at Arlechinno and Camille.

>>712641739
P wasn't even supposed to be Carlo in full. He awakened as Carlo before Geppetto was able to create his version of Carlo.

nerf when

>>712641121
The game literally spells it out for you that P is Carlo without his memories. He's Carlo and P at the same time.

>>712639568
>tfw when you go back to the body later in the game where it's now slumped over and you can see the message

>>712642101
Nerf what? Play on easy.

>>712595584
Ergo overdose.

>>712612148
Big fucking cope lmao.

>>712576734
And here i thought katana was broken. This thing is even more broken bro.

>>712612148
It's actually hilarious how overshadowed Lords of the Fallen was by Lies of P coming out first. What a truly awful game that was.

>>712612148
Nope. Khazan is so boring.
People give shit to LoP about it's level design, but Khazan is far worse.
I couldn't bring myself to keep playing, and I was only a few levels from beating the game.

lmao this is so dogshit
>git gu-
shhh you don't know the first thing about game design

>>712642252
how do i do that with level 5 arlecchino rematch

>>712585084
I mean duh. Blue fairy always wanna to fuck Pinocchio bro.

>>712642693
theyre giving you lea if youre too bad, thats perfect game design not their problem you choose to ignore it

>>712642693

Acquire proficiency.

>>712642693
git gud
the fight is more than fair
just get the perfect grindstone or something
or use lea

now what

>>712642789
>that's perfect game design
saying about this about a dlc when the developers themselves literally came out on release day and admitted they fucked up the balancing despite years in the oven proves how low your IQ is
>>712642856
your opinion is invalid as of the first 20 second combo string

>>712642745
>nerf the optional challenge mode
lol

>>712631032
What weapon do you use?

>>712640725
1. Use rose sword
2. Have max upgrades to hold as many consumables as possible
3. Have both the yellow miraculous ampule and fable catalysts on your extra bag hot bar
4. Save all of them for phase 2
5. Use perfect grindstone to survive the opener of phase 2
6. Apply electric blitz then spam the fuck out of the rose sword FAs in phase 2 by consuming the ampoules and catalysts like a druggy

>>712643096
use the perfect grindstone and upgrade how long it lasts and how many uses you get
use lea
use deflect
try running away and dodging
git gud

>>712643096
people are complaining about the mobs and minibosses not the bosses

>>712643038
>32 Capacity

>>712642693
I find it funny that the other enemies that can infict break are the jester puppets.

>>712642471
They're not broken. Dealing damage is not "broken".

>>712643350
i was using frozen feast for a while before i realized that slow of a weapon is not all that great.

>>712642693
TIME TO EXIT MY STAAAAGE!

Motivity, Technique, or advanced build. Is advance a viable thing or is it just a meme type thing. Like can I pump that or am I better off focusing on str or dex with a little bit of advance
I haven't played in a very long time and remember basically nothing

>>712643314
>use the thing that trivializes the main game
>use the purposefully overpowered boss
>deflect 20 attacks in a row without fail, also if you fuck up you get a heal debuff against a boss who's attack combos are so deadly they are, themselves, nearly impossible to heal from
i hope you never contribute to a videogame's creation

Finally got the DLC for my PS5 and it isn't fucking downloading. Anybody else having this issue?

>>712643516
>i will not use the tools the game gives me and then say that the game is designed badly
i hope you never contribute to a videogame's creation

>>712643723
>design bad game
>give players tools to counteract bad game design
>game must be good
i bet you enjoyed SOTE didn't you

Pale Knight has an extremely low attack commitment given the damage it deals. r1-r2 or r1r1r2 is one of the quickest ways to deal damage and get back to safety

>>712643503

Advance is viable but it's for freaks looking to do wacky shit. You're relying on Legion Arms, specific talisman set-ups and you're digging into the Assembly system for interesting combiunations.

Technique is the easiest by far, you pretty much get all the fast weapons and the best legion arms. Motivity is fine but slow weapons can really struggle against some bosses, so its more for if you want to focus on blocking.

>>712643832
>game gives you tools to help you if you suck
>this is bad
Go bait post in one of the other shit /v/ threads, this one is for normal people only.

>>712643516

Honestly dude just get good, seriously.
I'm shit at games like this and I still pull off a win without needing to rely on every cheese strat available.

>>712643832
Yeah, I did.

>>712644104
i beat this boss by summoning another dude doing this for me kek, god that shit was horrible
massive fps drops could barely see anything because the model is too big and there was that shitty true combo

>>712644104
didn't beat the game
>>712644025
beatable = good
i'm sure i'll beat this eventually
the important thing is that it will still, objectively, according to basic game design principals, be bad after i do so
but that doesn't mean i won't be better than anyone who summoned lea :^)

>>712628030
>claws
>bad
lol you're just shit

>>712644264
i can't even imagine how shit you can be that single player games generate ego for you
go and reach challenger/faceit lvl 10/radiant solo , those are actual hard achievements

>>712644264
The game says I beat it.
Get fucked and git gud.

>>712629276
One thing I like about Lies of P is that all defensive mechanics is extremely viable, be it parrying, dodging, guarding or even spacing. Maybe from can learn a thing or 2 from that.

>>712641332
Arlecchino has the Ergo of the murderer but is not the murderer himself. Arlecchino proves many times that he has his own goals and ideals, and whilst he is most likely influenced by the Ergo it does not make him the murderer himself.

>>712641471
That would mean every puppet out there is also somebody else in regards to which ergo they have. Which is false, considering Polendina and Pulcinella are very much their own people who have been shown not to have any basis on any former existing people. Puppets can very much awaken their "own" ego, outside of what their ergo contains.

>>712641739
Rosaura is a puppet herself and was basically Carlo's sister. She would know very well if her "brother" was actually standing in front of her in the form of P. Romeo wasn't actually like himself for some time until he "remembered" and began turning the puppets against carcasses, and Sophia will always be a fringe case due to her ability as a listener.

(Which makes it complicated as the going theory is that Carlo himself could have been a listener and is the white butterfly guiding both P and Rosaura... but I digress)

>>712642016
Camille saved a baby and that's it. Again, just because it's a slight influence DOESN'T make them that person. And she is potentially a listener also, complicating the matter.

>>712642121
And many times it also proven they are not the same person. Antonia, Rosaura, and even Lea initially does not recognise P as Carlo, and they were all people that were closest to him.

I will say that P is very much influenced by Carlo - yet they are two separate entities. They are not the same person. They co-exist yet are not one another.

Any good weapon combos that you've found?

Should I be perfect blocking everything or dodging everything. This is for base game, dlc, bosses, enemies.

>>712644745
Bow is an excellent secondary weapon for virtually anyone.

>>712644762
You should do what is needed
Using only one defensive measure is going to lead to a bad time

>>712643503
Advance is viable, although you're restricted to what I consider "plain" movesets because it has no boss weapons. You want to use weapon handles that scale with advance (like electric coil stick), and then replace the head with the element you want (like salamander dagger for caracass enemies)

>>712644707
>Arlecchino has the Ergo of the murderer but is not the murderer himself.
He literally is. Romeo’s entire character proves you wrong, retard.

>>712645000
Trips of Truth

>>712644849
I meant assembled weapons.

You know what's fucked up? No Freeze Status weapon.

should i use one of these or an elemental grindstone?

>>712645245
Oh yeah, a frozen rapier of some kind would fit dlc nicely.

>>712644707
>and was basically Carlo's sister. She would know very well if her "brother"
No, she wasn't.

>>712645316
Elemental grindsones can be replaced by the buffs. I think the most powerful one is the perfect block grindstone because it gives you a breather and auto-builds huge amount of stagger on any enemy.

I'm asking the devs to add the Croc, Veronique and Lumacchio in the boss rematch thing.

>>712644707
Perhaps there's two tiers of ego awakening: one without memories and one with. Romeo and Sophia have their memories and I think can be considered the same persons they were. The others do not (not sure about Arle), but I think that makes them more like people with amnesia rather than not the people whose ergo they possess.

>>712644930
Except Perfect Parrying everything will actually lead to you putting bosses on the back foot, while dodging everything will not. Not all defensive options are made equal in this game.

>>712646205
>the more skillful option rewards you better
Woah…

>>712646205
I didn't say they were equal. I said do what is needed. As in, do what you need to win.

I'm gonna make a new thread.

>>712631032
>only get visual shit for doing all of that
lame. For beating every boss on highest difficulty I should be getting cheat codes like infinite health, infinite fable, etc.

>>712646205
I'd perfect parry more if every single enemy wasn't a spaz that delays everything.

>>712646995
>>712646995
>>712646995
>>712646995
>>712646995
>>712646995

>>712646372
Yeah, except you haven't been inundated with dumbasses telling you
>you don't need to parry, just DODGE