Thread 712585770

bro, out of my 400 games on steam, 50 are now delisted
>19 are abandonware
>20 got replaced by a remaster
>11 got merged into the base game's depot
alice madness returns and alpha protocol got readded to the store though, so that's nice
but still, WHAT THE FUCK ANONS, that's like 10 percent of my library gone from the store and other people can't get that shit legally anymore
wonder what games will get axed next
at this point there's unironically no reason not to simply pirate shit in 2025

If its delisted its free

>>712585965
technically if it's cracked it's free
still, this sort of shit unnerves me, was really surprised to find out how many of my vidya got delisted

>>712585770 (OP)
you can still play those games though

>>712585770 (OP)
did you go through the list and autistically find which is available and which isn't? or is there some tool that amalgamates everything for you and you just made the image?
anyways, i am big mad that samurai jack got delisted before i could get it.
still available on epic, but i am not using that shit.

>>712586449
yeah, I know
late niggas can't tho
it's not really about me, just a report on the current state of things

>>712586671
>go through the list and autistically find
yeah, did it manually cause I was bored at work
>samurai jack
damn, that was in my wishlist

Delisted games are only a problem for normies.
I'm more worried about games that have unfixable issues on modern hardware and OSs.

>>712586671
>samurai jack
gray market like g2a or kinguin has keys for it for 60 bux or so, more than what it's worth but that's an option
the price will only go up as the keys are being sold so if you care about having it in your steam library you can grab one quick

>>712587251
how trustworthy are those sites? i've thought about it, but worried about any number of types of fuckery.

>>712587412
Key sites are trustworthy as long as you only buy from the most popular resellers. Don't just go off of whoever has the cheapest offering.

>>712587054
fuck bro, don't even remind me, some stuff already needs like hours of troubleshooting and consulting pcgamingwiki to function properly
bunch of vidya are already relying on passionate code savvy fans to roll out some patches for modern systems
heard something about the 5000s series of nvidia gpu's not supporting old physx anymore, that for sure could cause some issues if they keep doing that

>>712587054
bought a fuckton of shit from those two I mentioned, plus eneba, cause sometimes I'm impatient to wait for a sale and I want to play something
got fucked only like twice out of 30 and even those were refunded
you should be golden

>>712585965
>>712586372
Hell yea. Also: If it can be emulated, it's free.
PC is the free man's system.
>>712585770 (OP)
Mirin your rares doe.

damn I missed one, that makes 51

>>712585770 (OP)
if you have in your account then you can still install and play them...

is sleeping dogs definitive really that big of a deal thoughaleverbeit
it's just the same game except with all the nickel and dime DLCs packed-in

you can ignore the DLC cars if you really want since they're basically paid cheats, and i felt like the game would be too short without year of the snake or nightmare in north point, plus if they were left as paid DLC i probably wouldn't have bought them

replacing GTAs with definitive editions was significantly more tragic

>>712591083
I don't remember much, but what I do remember is the shadows and graphics in general looking better in the original game while the definive edition looks washed out.

>>712585770 (OP)
It still annoys me that Bethesda replaced The Ultimate Doom with Doom + Doom II instead of just creating a new app ID and giving it to people who owned the existing apps. Having separate "Doom II" and "Doom + Doom II" entries in my library is idiotic, not to mention Final Doom already having been copied into Doom II before that.

>>712591203
ok i see it, the original has more contrast and looks vibrant and better in the dark. there are points where the differences are more subtle in the daylight, and even in cutscenes cus it seems like it was just changes to where points of light were put, but some scenes especially closeups look extremely different.
an asset here or there was swapped as well, but it took a side by side for me to notice cus i don't own and aren't extremely familiar with the original

game still kicks ass tho

>>712591083
these re-releases always fuck with the atmosphere and lighting, no exceptions
in the case of sleeping dogs, they turned up the brightness and turned down the saturation for absolutely no reason, would post some comparison pix if I had them installed
most people don't even notice but I'm the kind of sperg whomst notices that shit
besides, definitive editions and the like are just jewish cashgrabs every time and have no reason to exist since they add nothing of value ever
>>712591294
not to mention the grid card looks fuckugly too and doesn't fit the rest of the library, ended up manually replacing it with classic doom's card and hero from steamgriddb

>>712585770 (OP)
Saddest part is, every one of those delisted games could get a shitty remake and it would sell like hotcakes. Fucking Too Human Remastered would sell. Modern gamers are literally cattle.

>>712585770 (OP)
>Resurrection of Evil
That's not delisted, you DO get that very item along with vanilla Doom 3, and BFG edition as well, if you buy the solitary Doom 3 listing on the store. You just can't buy any of those individually.
Can check here:
https://steamdb.info/sub/17411/apps/
Same with F.E.A.R. and its two expansions being sold as one package. There even was a time when you needed to get the whole trilogy of games for sixty bucks to play the first one.
Other than that, yeah, so many games becoming abandonware in this commercialized age it's ridiculous.

I assume most delistings are motivated by money, in one way or another (like not wanting to renew licenses for copyrighted music, not wanting the original game to compete with a worse but more expensive remaster, etc.); and when it comes to Bethesda, they probably think they're doing the world a favor by copy-pasting expansions into base games, as it would never occur to some suit-wearing executive that this shits up the Steam libraries of people who already bought those games and now have one copy of Doom, two copies of Doom II, three copies of Final Doom, and no option to play just the first without downloading everything. At least their intentions were good at best and understandable at worst.
But for some games, I can't imagine a possible reason, except maybe the developer/publisher so abruptly going out of business that no one picked up the distribution rights. Maybe that's what happened to Scratches. But actually, it isn't; I just checked and the listed publisher has a game out this year. So what the fuck.
As for OP's list, at least people who bought the original Dear Esther got the remaster for free. The developers are still very braindead for assuming that the original Source engine game has no value, though.

>>712593402
That ones legal issues with the IP. As far as I understand they made a deal with the IP and the company they made it with went bankrupt so it got fucked.

>>712585770 (OP)
So?

>>712593402
>now have one copy of Doom, two copies of Doom II, three copies of Final Doom
Fuck's sake, that made me laugh.

>>712593668
Final Doom is the Skyrim of Doom

>>712593639
What do you mean, so? The good versions of games are disappearing and being replaced by inferior ones

>>712593668
Also three copies of Master Levels.
All of the Doom II "expansions" got duplicated into Doom II before all of Doom II got duplicated into Doom. It's truly a clusterfuck if you bought the series before last year.

>>712593639
you tell me
>>712593402
wish devs just did picrel, as in make whatever new version they wanted, but kept the original available for those interested in that, just hidden from plain sight
it's still free cash for the bastards

Soul Reaver's de-listing is the fucking worst of these.
>browsing GOG several years ago
>all the Legacy of Kain sequels are there, regularly on sale for less than $1 each
>no Blood Omen though
>"wow, I'm totally going to buy the whole series if they ever get Blood Omen, it'll be cool to play them all in order"
>wait
>keep waiting
>one day Blood Omen drops
>but Soul Reaver is removed
>now it's back but only as 1&2 Remastered, for $20 on sale
>original is gone forever
Fuck you.
Fuuuuuuuuuuuuck you.
It was the whole series or nothing. I now feel justified in pirating even the ones that are still for sale. Good job.

>>712594830
>old
>good
>new and improved
>bad

>>712594830
They might as well have just removed the original version of Soul Reaver 2 as well, given that they clearly don't want anyone to buy it. I don't think that just the second game is a threat to sales of 1&2 remaster, but the publisher evidently thinks so, judging by how those constant discounts completely stopped. For context, those frequent discounts continue for Defiance and Blood Omen 2.

>>712595202
>old
>bad
>new
>good
>shopping on a web site originally called "good old games"

I hate when they do picrel too
NIGGER LET ME JUST HAVE THE ONE GAME I WANT, DON'T BLOAT MY LIBRARY WITH BULLSHIT I'M GOING TO PUT IN MY HIDDEN GAMES
>>712595202
uh this but unironically?
you can fuck off now

>>712585770 (OP)
I don't care

NOOOO NOT THE TRANSFORMER GAMES

>>712585770 (OP)
>>11 got merged into the base game's depot
Honestly, that's a good thing. In your image, you basically got Quake 1+2 and Doom 1+2's modern ports for free AND gained the DLC in the install, no need to mess with the individual depots when they're already installed with the base game.

Unless you chimp out about "muh purity" or whatever bullshit /v/ is on the rag about this week, there is no loss in consolidating the depots and giving you all the content for a purchase.

>>712595582
it's personal preference to have them as separate downloads, but yeah it's not as big an issue as just straight up removing a game completely from stores
that's why they got marked with a lighter color too

>>712585770 (OP)
Are you genuinely sad for the Master Levels for Doom II? That shit sucked.
Also you were meant to play those on any of the source ports you can download, like even Legacy of Dust from the Doom 1+2 can be played on a source port and there are official instructions from the devs.

>>712586372
>Gallerians
Based.

>>712595395
Warner Bros. did this with F.E.A.R. on Steam for the longest time. It was unavailable except in the overpriced bundle with the mediocre F.E.A.R. 2 + DLC and the awful F.E.A.R. 3, and this situation was really fucking weird because the first game by itself was available on GOG at the same time, obviously for much cheaper. I also remember that Bundle Stars (now Fanatical) had a full-series bundle for like $5, and I don't remember if this was before or after the original game's stand-alone purchase option was removed from Steam, but that bundle was of course drastically cheaper than the equivalent Steam store bundle ever got. It was like the publisher just wanted people to buy the game anywhere other than Steam.

Why in the flying fuck are you retards giving so much money to a dogshit service run by a fat normalfag that locks your shit down?

>>712585770 (OP)
>wanted to buy transformers devastation on steam at the time I didn't have money.
>Now that I have money, I still can't buy it on steam

>>712593383
>Other than that, yeah, so many games becoming abandonware in this commercialized age it's ridiculous.
Licensing issues, for example Ultimate Alliance will never be able to be bought from a store front ever again thanks to Disney.

>>712595582
>>712595881
also separate purchases too, it gives more power to the consumer since he can customize what he actually wants to pay for
some niggas just don't want the master levels, or perseus mandate, or doom 3 bfg ed, or any of this remaster shit >>712595395
just let us decide
although you can argue against it with what happened with the nu hitman trilogy and all the confusion about the editions and dlc's, but was entirely the business model's fault since it was irredeemably cancer

Paid $40 for a key, though if your computer isn't shit, you might have a better time emulating it in RPCS3 or Xenia.

>delisting
What?

>>712585770 (OP)
The solution:
>emulate everything
>be happy

>>712596072
What do source ports have to do with anything OP wrote? Even if you're going to bring your own replacement for everything except the .wad file, it doesn't change the facts regarding the availability of that .wad file via Steam. If you want to claim that piracy of game assets is justified when the engine is open-source, then just say piracy instead of pretending OP implied anything about not using source ports.

>>712596714
Holy shit are you retards seriously giving modern id money for the Doom games? Are you mentally fucking retarded? The original devs are completely unaffiliated with the abomination it has become and the wad files are on a thousand different sites.

>>712596072
>zoomers need official instructions from the devs to drag and drop .wad files
Sad.

I literally just pirated Splinter Cell Conviction because, for whatever reason, its only available on Steam as part of a $40 bundle. I would have payed for the game like I did for Blacklist, but I guess they just don't want my money. Boggles the mind.

Hehe I have this on origin or EA app or whatever it's called now, I don't think anybody else on Earth owns it

I'm honestly surprised by some of these.
OG Prey and Transformers Devastation are great games, never thought they would get erased.

>>712585770 (OP)
if you own it, you can still play it after it is delisted from the store
whats the problem?

lol what the fuck is Hasbro doing? Do they not want people to remember when Transformers had good games?

wow bro it's almost like relying on digital is retarded
all of my PS2 games from 25 years ago still work though

>>712597208
Maybe I should go back and get the cheevos.

>>712596859
Okay, so people should pirate the games because Bethesda is bad. That's fine. But the earlier comment about source ports was still non-sequitur brain-rot garbage. OP didn't write or imply anything about not using source ports, the purchase of a game and the use of a source port for that game are not mutually exclusive, a game's engine being open-source does not decrease a game's value except to a subhuman ape who would think that pirating .wad is easier than pirating .exe, and in fact OP already advocated for piracy right there in the opening post so I don't even know what your problem is.

>>712585770 (OP)
anyone knows why is amnesia not available anymore?
they were even given away for free at some point

>>712586849
Technically you can still activate delisted games if you buy a key. Some keys are going for ridiculous prices like Dark Souls Prepare to Die going for $900. Others are still like $1.99 on CDKEYS

>>712597208
>>712590898
clearly I know that, see >>712586849
it's about new gamers being able to buy less and less games now
>>712597679
>$900
rookie numbers, check the last steam key for riddick

>>712597610
Uh, you mean this one? The whole series is still there for me. Are you in some shithole country that developers like to block from buying their games?

>>712585770 (OP)
what causes a game to be delisted?

>>712599041
Usually the publisher lost the rights to the game or content in it, no longer wishes to sell it due to shit like a remaster or a Definitive Edition with DLC, or rarely more esoteric shit like what happened to Vigil: The Longest Night for a while.

>>712599041
jews

>>712598140
huh

>>712599692
odd

>>712585770 (OP)
can valve remove games from your library? cuz i dont fw that fr fr blud

>>712585770 (OP)
>40% of that list got delisted because of remasters
That's a lot, holy shit

>>712601824
Yeah, but usually on the request of publisher. Like the case of indiana jones & great circle deluxe edition from humble incorrectly sold as free by mistake then steam revoke the keys

>>712601824
mostly nah, if you activated a key, it stays in your library and you can play the game
you just can't buy these at the store anymore
rare exceptions are things like >>712602227

>>712585770 (OP)
dunno if it applies to steam but buying bloodrayne terminal cut on gog also gives you the OG for free as it should be

in my opinion you should get the original for free when you buy the remaster if the OG is pulled

Hence why i stared buying originals once the remaster is revealed
>>712597061
I bought the CD
claimed the code and it never appeared in my library
im still pissed bout it.

>>712585770 (OP)
You can still play the game

Kind of fucked up how it's usually easier to emulate the console port of an older game than it is to get the pc version running.

>>712603847
If you emulated an older computer it'd probably be about the same level of hassle, it's just that PC hardware wasn't as consistent so there's not one benchmark you can aim for that'll have everything work.

>>712585770 (OP)
games being merged isn't delisting. you're literally getting free content.

>>712593961
>three copies of Master Levels
Christ

.

Steam as a service declined a lot, especially in recent years, and it is usually better to pirate older games, even ones that I bought. GTA San Andreas is a good example, and the (pirated) gog version of Dragon's Dogma, for a more recent example, also runs better lol

>>712585770 (OP)
>he owns the original Prey
Based, I didn't even remembered they used to sell it
When did they remove Assault Horizon?

>>712585770 (OP)
Am I missing something here? Last time I tried, you can still redownload delisted games if they are already in your library.

>>712606053
>Am I missing something here?
Yeah, the part where OP wrote
>other people