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Insensitive prick.
I'm kind of lost, where does the Asgore ran over Dess theory come from?
I thought the prophecy about Queen's car being unstoppable referred to Toriel's car since she looked like a queen in chapter 3 and she's being targeted by the Knight. Am I missing something?
>>712594335 (OP)they make meds for that i t hink
>>712594482nowhere, it's just funny
>>712594482Asgore got kicked out from the police for a reason. We don't know that reason yet but it's insinuated this is why Toriel divorced him
So what do you all think will be the next gameplay mechanic/gimmick for chapter 5?
>Chapter 1 introduces the gameplay (and shows how it differs from Undertale)
>Chapter 2 lets others Act on their own
>Chapter 3 heavily focuses on a variety of different mini-games
>Chapter 4 introduced climbing and the piano gimmick
I imagine something flower related but I don't know what.
>>712594335 (OP)he stopped toriel from entering the church after the first attempt at her being kidnapped
he boned her all night as an alibi for what comes next
Is Sans originally from Undertale or Deltarune?
Why is he never addressed as "comic sans" in game?
Is he not funny?
they never explain why he's so smug and overpowered
>>712594642flower platforming
>>712594642farming simulator
ralsei rancher
>>712594642You separate from Kris and temporarily become a Flowey-like entity.
>>712594482It's just a joke combining a completely mundane way she could have died that Asgore would be held culpable for, and also making Asgore child murderer in both universes.
>>712594665asgore chimps out in chapter 5 and beats him near to death. That's why he only has 1hp, so he learns to dodge
It's a little thing but I really appreciate that Toby wrote Kris as having dragged Berdly's ass to the hospital and personally apologizing to Noelle and saying shit was all just a prank after Chapter 2's Weird Route, small stuff like that really helps shoot down what could've been agonizing """""theories""""" and retarded headcanons
>>712594620>>712594639>>712594720Thanks for the explanation, I just checked the old thread I had opened and found the source video: https://youtu.be/cJVjadbHC2U
But I still belive my schizo theory that Toriel attempted to kill Dess somehow
you all got the little bonus right?
Here's my crackpot theory:
Sans is an undercover agent of a space-time police force. Skeletons have the power to control time-space as seen from Gaster and Sans. Papyrius is part of this operation too. In the end, Sans gets stranded in the Undertale universe.
>>712594720Also the fact that she'd be a deer in headlights.
>>712594907>only six flying acesoh no
>>712594897I think so, but I'm not sure
Did the minigame just spoil all of the weird route?
is sans undertale racist to humans? he takes every open opportunity to shit on Kris, though I guess Kris in general isn't very loved by the towns folk, huh?
>people think that Asgore is going to start the inferno of jealousy
>instead it will be Toriel when Asgore comes to festival with Alphys (who just went with him for moral support)
>>712594990>but I'm not suresounds like you didn't or you would know
>>712594850>Kris is shown to be backstabbing double agent, working for the knight>also shows him to caring towards his friends (especially in weird route)wtf is his problem
Darkners that are real toys IRL when? Make DR become Toy Story for one chapter, pls.
>>712594958True, I forgot about that part
>>712594850great way of making your silent not-protag look like they may be worth hearing(silently) out
>look at patch notes
>Fixed an issue of trapped in the closet
>Fix of trapped out the closet
SERIOUSLY WHAT THE FUCK DOES THIS MEAN
AND WHAT DOES IT HAVE TO DO WITH THE SECOND KRIS IN DESS' CLOSET
WHY HASN'T IT BEEN PATCHED OUT YET
>in only a minute, sans earned the ire of every faggot with literal mommy problems on /v/
>>712595051Well, Ralsei is a toy, though he is probably different from Fangamer plushie.
>>712595046I feel like I checked that area but I do t remember getting an item from it, which is why I'm not sure
>>712594482Asgore running over Dess is a meme, but he very well may have something to do with Dess. He was removed from the police force for some unspecified reason, and judging from the chapter 3 flashback cutscene Asgore leaves the family after Dess and Carol stop coming.
>>712595081>>712595048>hockey sticks (You)he gets what he deserves
With all of the schizotheories we've been through over the past few days I think I've realized the #1 thing I'm most excited for is figuring out what the fuck is wrong with this place, even without the shelter there's clearly several other places that are just really "off":
>the lake
>the woods
>even the Holiday mansion to an extent
>https://x.com/_Flyingsnake/status/1933619940986400862
>you can keep the pipis if you don't have the spamton items
>it starts tweeting
>kris can eat it
what the fuck kek, wonder what happens if you can keep it throughout the rest of the chapters
of course it was joel
>>712594335 (OP)I miss Deltarune on the title, but anything to avoid the trannitors, I guess.
Threads are still blazing fast.
>>712595214I'm getting shot with swords and shit all day every day when I'm in this world I can handle a little canadian bacon
Why does Ralsei know real life places?
Why is Sans in this game acting weird?
>>712594335 (OP)Noelle got insensitively pricked lol
>>712594659sans is likely from deltarune as monsters can bleed in deltarune but not in undertale
>>712595223too bad Sans was too late to tell him promises suck ass
>>712595230i find it really weird that there is only a gate on the road and that Noelle didn't just go around it. Seems easy enough since Kris apparently got into their house all the time as a child
>>712595230Don't forget the area blocked by police tape too
>>712595278when you're dealing with such highly paid jannies sometimes you need to hide.
also keeps /utg/ schizos out
>>712595042Toriel, Asgore, and Ralsei are the only real candidates since they're all fire mages
>>712594850Yet the mantle game still says part of him liked it AND he didn't destroy the ThornRing.
>>712595230It's almost 4 days with that police tape and other things, wtf is inside the other place
>>712595263I really didn't expect to find new secrets from Joel and Mike of all people
>>712594335 (OP)According to Toriel his prick is plenty sensitive ;)
>>712595263are you prepared to do a pipis run, knowing it may one day hatch into a mini-spamton?
>>712595398isn't that just the road out of town?
>>712595146>yfw Seam is literally the fangamer plush and that's how he has high level meta knowledge.
I like to imagine Gerson's solid green cane is made out of sour green apple candy
>>712595320This is like when people were confused by gokus stupid behavior in dragon ball super.
Sans was always an asshole, you just didn't realize it.
>>712595572good evening Ms. Deltarune
>>712595230What's so tall that it can cast a shadow on the road from the church to the graveyard?
>>712595263God, I hate streamers. They're so dumb.
This release is generating so fucking much good art
im kinda surprised theres not that many posts about kris with a maid cafe outfit
ngl I'm not mad at Kris and would help that nigger if he allowed me
shit I'd even help him carry out his evil plans you dont need to hide from me I'm down to kidnap som lightners
So she's gonna be the angel, she even still has the fucking wings.
What does her Paradise look like? What will need to be banished before Titans just bumfuck the entire world?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dhS-H7THzA
>>712595230where do they get animals/meat from for their food?
>meat factory
>>712595656For me its chef susie
>>712595650Noelle.... your too long....
>>712595263>missed out on getting my own personal spamton just because I actually kept the dealmaker onI've been scammed
>>712595674Her paradise is what Susie wants, a world that's forever frozen in place, just the same days forever, enjoying life with Kris and Susie and Dess and Asriel
>>712595125second kris is acting independently
I finished chapters 3 and 4 and all I can think about is chapter 5. The snowgrave end especially is making the WAIT extra difficult, because corruption is my fetish and I'm dying to know just how bad it gets
Hey guys, my watch is broken. Does anyone know what time it is?
>>712595048Kris loves his friends as few as he has, they're the one thing that keeps him grounded and there's one he failed to save, one he wants to go back for.
Find Her
>>712595650Noelle getting more tragic development for her past did a lot to start endoeing me to her
>>712594482>I thought the prophecy about Queen's car being unstoppable referred to Toriel's carLiterally just a joke about the driving section in chapter 2
>>712595656Can you imagine if he actually went through with DR being a one time release besides maybe chapter 1
A lot of the first half of the game would not get nearly as much fanart and discussion because all the focus would be on the last few boss battles and WD Gaster
>>712595048It seems like he's been an emotionless and soulless husk and at the whims of the dark caller for a long time, but his friends being in such urgent danger was enough for the real him to peek out, like Asriel coming out when Flowey's life was threatened
>>712595650tragikino is like crack to artists
>>712595857YOU CANT GET THIS FROM AN EGG
>>712595753>Gerson is surprised that's what Susie asked for. Tells her to hold onto that thoughtOh that old fucker knew. And he also knew that just saying it's bad wouldn't be enough.
Susie is definitely gonna break down this coming Endless Eight bullshit
https://x.com/ChiefofIsaac/status/1933667197005488287
>>712595952Endless Eight Chapters?
>>712595678could big green solo the deltarune universe?
>>712595753>>712595952To destroy the false paradise, we must embrace the role of the villain.
>>712596005I love the fan art for Kris/Soul shenanigans
just finished chap 9 to fucking find whatever this is, rest in peace my vesselwife noelle btw
how I am supposed to kill him, do I need some item between saves or whatever?
>>712596051Yamacha could probably solo Deltarune.
>>712596083Need to rape the bones
The fact that Noelle keeps getting flavor text for items despite the fact she is not in the chapter I think is an obvious hint that we're going to be chapter looping at least once
I'm cooking. I'm seeing through the code. Everything is becoming clear.
Chapter 0 will explain it all. They got to the end of the story and were given a chance to reset. They can't change the ending, but they can change who plays what role. Hero 2 is fated to die, so Kris and Dess agreed to reset and change roles so they could save Noelle.
>>712596083>he didn't cook the eggs
>>712596005we know what the cover looks like though, and its nothing like that and toby was a coward to not make it appear in chapter 3
>DUDE WATCH OUT ITS THE
>ITS THE
>titan in chapter 4
Shadow Mantle is kicking my ass I should have played Zelda as a kid
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what a cutie
>>712596005Thats not what the cover of that book looks like
>>712596083>he didn't find the F.I.N.A.L.G.U.N. in Bonus Chapter ~Lancer Side Story~Delete your save. You are actually softlocked.
>>712594335 (OP)He did nothing wrong. I would do the same if someone told me there was a goat milf with an ass twice as wide as my torso somewhere in town.
>>71259585712:25. A watch stuck at half noon.
>>712596216that's just a human arm with long nails
non suspicious at all
>>712596216Anon, this is just Carol suffering menopause
... did we ever find out the number answer to this /v/?
so eggs dont matter in the weird route right? seeing as u cant get the chapter 2 one
>>712596197Sorry, but the player isn't the Angel, redditor.
>>712596005Secondary shit aside, I really love when Susie makes this face. Asriel is SOOOO getting bullied during festival.
Why does this faggot have to the top comment on literally every fan made music track i find?
I find it utterly insufferable that someone who is basically "a professional fan of 1 game" exists and is also like beloved by other fans for some reason?
What does this person actually contribute for people to like them?
>>712596348Eggs are for good boys only
>>712596069Aye i saved the WIP, good job anon, looks pretty good
>>712596348Probably not, I haven't done ch 4 weird to completion but the ch 3 egg is inaccessible in weird too
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omg he got a little plushie this faggot
>>712596235Breath and take things slower.
>Bombs - Watch where they land, think of where is safe. Mantle will move in a line up and down or left to right after throwing them, so line up in a safe spot to hit it.>Fireballs - They're fast, but they go in the direction they spawn in. Stay away during it, read the direction and dodge. You'll have a chance to hit right at the end.>Fire Fall - Go to the bottom of the screen and just focus on dodging. If she's close, get a stab in as she flies by. At the end, she pauses for a bit so you can get hits in.>FRIENDS - Stick with the top or bottom, slash the Friends as they come to you. She'll sit and laugh while you do it, so after killing all but one Friend, go after her ass. Kill the last Friend as she starts Fire Fall againThose are her main attacks. She mixes them together in the later phases, but the logic still works.
>>712596405im not the artist
>>712596335"How long it took her to smile" is definitely about Noelle saying "thank you" if you think about her in the ch4 dark world.
>>712596421(you) gave it to him
>>712594335 (OP)Wouldn't it be really fucking sick if during the snowgrave route or even the normal route we got an option to say "Don't make me kill you again" to Sans if he starts being too much of a piece of shit? make the screen turn blue or red like during the weird dialogue between Noelle and Susie too
>>712595923can someone make a "it's!! /v/!! time!!" of this?
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>>712596227We are not getting a good ending on weird route, are we ?
>>712596380>reading the youtube comments>for an ost video
>>712596513all a matter of perspective
>>712596380Why do you care so much as to save this screenshot as "loser_faggot.png". Are you actually that guy or something
>>712596235Farm the friends for candies if you're low on health. If you do too much damage to the mantle during that part he might change phases and cuck you out of more healing items.
>>712596513>We are not getting a good ending on the murder rape route, are we ?Buddy what the fuck were you expecting?
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i don't care about the roaring
>>712596450So are we supposed to take it as Noelle being an absolute freak? Because I doubt it took long at all
So does this confirm the goner hand theory or is it still just coincidental?
>>712596601that we'd all be pals :)
someone post the consent meme with (you) and kris and noelle
>>712596468I just want to see him thrown off his game a tiny bit. What makes him infuriating is how he ALWAYS has his shit together and basically has the last word. Even when you kill him he's like "errrm welp tried to warn ya!"
I want to see him, for one moment, be unnerved or unsure of himself.
Even reloading genocide route when he can tell you've beat him before, he's still got a retort.
I want to see ONE SINGLE TIME that he's just fucking speechless.
And him turning away at the "eggs husband" joke doesn't count because that was when he knew he had Toriel in the bag.
>>712596513the end justifies the memes
>>712596380who cares? ppl like celebrities more news at 11
>>712594335 (OP)>be funny manlet>this super tall, super thick babe thinks you are the funniest most fun person shes ever met and invites her to your place and fuck>somehow, on another plane of existence, fags with divorced parents are seething to infinity about youFuck off. I'd rather Toriel/Sans be happy over the kid who is working with the Knight and throws me into a birdcage every night.
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Noelle will become stronger.
>>712596513i stand by that SOMETHING positive has to come out of it, even if it's surrounded by negativity
>>712596227>collar with heart
>>712596005cover fuckup aside i really really really like this artstyle, who's the artist?
>>712596380I see this happen all the time on other series as well, it's really obnoxious how so many games/series basically have that one person to practically represent it due to their presence always being around it.
if this little faggot went sicko mode more often I'd like him a lot more
>>712596513not on regular route either
gotta read between the lines
>>712596513(You)? Most definitely aren't. Gya-ha-ha!
>>712596652There is a LOT of other hand stuff in this release, such as putting 1225 in the ball machine and being told "you couldn't find your hand", or there's a spot in the ch4 windows area where Kris sticks their hand out and something "perfectly out of view" pushes back.
Some people think FRIEND is the severed hand become a Darkner, since it has five appendages during Ralsei's chapter 3 speech.
>>712596513...Did you want one from it?
>>712596083Man I love MOTHER final bosses
>Asgore wants things to go back to how they were
>Kris wants things to go back to how there were
>not specifically mentioned but Asriel probably wants that too
>Toriel is the only one who insists on keeping the family broken up so that she can get fucked by the bald midget while her child is missing
She's such a fucking bitch, holy shit. The Knight should've unironically kidnapped her instead of Undyne.
>>712596513>toby "you can't get the good ending if you killed one monster in self-defense" fox is totally going to lock the good ending behind rape!no
you're evil
the game keeps telling you you're evil and that what you're doing is evil
either embrace it or pussy out but don't expect a happy ending just because a turtle said some shit about lines
>>712594335 (OP)He's on our side!
>to defeat the titans i had to become a titan
>>712596809Yeah I wonder if anything will come of it in Chapter 5
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>>712596709Carol will become lolibaba
>>712596830i mean im asking yeah ......i wanted it
>>712596716If the writing is to even had a shred of decency to it, yeah. After Gerson's whole dialogue about breaking the prophecy it'd be extremely dissapointing to have Noelle become stronger and stronger only to just have a shitty ass ending where the game wags its finger at you while saying "h-haha this is the bad ending what did you expect"
>>712596890susiezilla will be real
>>712596839She has the right to be happy at the cost of virtually everyone else, anon.
>>712596197The player can't be the angel, the cage already shows the heart
>>712596513I don't see why not. I'll say it again. Berdley was self defense. Noelle was clearly happy to receive the ring even if initially shocked.
>>712594482It's just people being retarded. Literally Carol and Rudy are the only two people to actually still support Asgore and Carol is straight up funding him so he doesn't go homeless. Chances are he's outright trying to help find Dess while Toriel just wanted to sweep the whole thing under the rug because whatever happened fucked Kris up mentally which is why their last two egg things resemble therapy methods and are Kris's past.
>>712596809I think he lost both his hands, the prophecy has the SOUL and two arms
>>712596697Sides in heaven now
>tfw my mom is even worse than toriel
>still living with her
>>712596652Where is this from?
>>712596839You can't just logically choose to love someone again. Divorce is really fucking messy. Asgore might regret it but that doesn't mean Toriel can just like rewind how she feels or what made her feel that way.
Just because you regret your parents divorcing, doesn't mean you want them to start trying to live under the same roof again. Trust me on that.
>>712596967UGGGHH she's such a powerful queen...
>>712596764HELL YEAH, HOPECHADS who never do anything bad shall suffer with us if that is true
>>712596890we attack on titan now
>>712597038>kris is pictured as one of the dangerskek
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>>712596906AIIIEEEEEE I'M SORRY TOBY-SAMA
>>712597040Using the unseen sink after getting the egg in the 4th chapter
>>712596956no SOUL would do our guy like that
>>712596854What do you mean? I killed every monster and got a gf out of it.
>>712596083damn it anon you forgot to get the banana from queen in chapter 6's castle town didn't you
if you don't chill that thing properly with STRENGTHEN'd noelle from the 3rd loop shit goes all out of wack
>>712596953I don't trust Toby Fox to learn his lesson and make something cool like that, it's unfortunate.
>>712596697I love these two retards like you wouldn't believe
>Draw this way back in 2022
>2025, Noelle gets raped
https://youtu.be/pHFk1_bg0PA
>>712596819What did you do for the webm to work that way that's pretty cool?
>>712596953The normal route is about breaking the prophecy, anon. Snowgrave is about making Noelle stronger so she can take Susie's place as the hero and keep the prophecy on track.
Whoโs your favourite deltarune streamer
>>712596360>>712596978The Cage is the thing holding the Heart. It's a cage for the Angel.
The gang all see the portrait of the Angel, but we don't. They don't act like they recognize it, they seem confused what it is. The screen it happens we just see black, cause it's meant to reflect our screen so we see ourselves there.
We also literally have an angel ornament thrown on the SOUL in Chapter 4, and everyone religious tells Kris they need "to let the Angel guide them".
And it fits with the Undertale parallels. In Undertale, we are 100% the Angel. The one that will empty the underground of Monsters. The monsters see this as either being freed or being killed, which ends up true either route you take.
>the Statue!Gerson encounter
>>712597201Joel
Until Jerma does
>>712597201I only watched Jerma stream it.
>>712596890>>712597067>The Roaring>The RumblingBravo toby
>>712597008You do have some good points
>>712597041You're right but she's still humiliates Kris while drunk in front of her friend and she never bothered checking on Kris while he was gone for the night or even keeping Kris' diner from Sans
>>712597201what the fuck is that thing
>>712596890>>712597067I actually think Kris is going to be the second Knight
>>712596513Possessing Noelle's body and becoming an hypergod with unlimited power sounds like a good ending to me
>>712596513Buddy, we signed up for PURE EVIL
>>712597234if the player is the angel, what does it mean we are banished and meet with our desire?
that we will be satisfied to see the ending? (if so, why isnt this the last prophecy)
is it that we need to be banish to meet gaster?
what does it mean?
>>712597029ngl i hope toriel does more awful shit, seeing all the redditors that ree about how their heckin wholesome goat mom isnt negligent is funny
A lot of anons seem unsatisfied with how Susie and Noelle's relationship is developing. My question is, how would you change it to make it flow better?
Personally, I think we are past the point where Noelle's idea of Susie needs to be broken down so they can form a more honest friendship. Susie still feels like a different person with Noelle compared to how she act towards Kris, Ralsei, and Lancer, so it feels very performative.
>>712597170if I knew I'd be doing it for Noelle in the other direction. however I did find this after a lil googlan https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7_4voIvKAM
>>712597180Headcanon. The Forbidden Path and the Prophecy, those are 2 different things
>>712597320how come kris was struggling without the soul in chapter 1+2 and now he's suddenly able to basically be normal?
>>712597248Is his playthrough good? I was once fond of Jobel
>>712597391Thank you my man
>>712597234>The Cage is the thing holding the Heart. It's a cage for the Angel.Headcanon
>The screen it happens we just see black, cause it's meant to reflect our screen so we see ourselves there.This isn't the 90s, screens don't reflect anything. Headcanon.
>In Undertale, we are 100% the Angel. No, Chara is the angel in Genocide and Asriel is the angel in Pacifist. Play the game. Headcanon.
Seek help.
I hope the weird route has some genuine acts of fuckery and evilness and not just "I killed the hecking character guys." It should be some mental manipulation, genuine psychopath shit.
Anyone else think Ralsei might be the actual mastermind behind whatever Kris and the Knight are doing?
When we cut away to watch Susie during chapters 1 and 2 he's the one always explaining shit to Kris.
>...so that's why, OK, Kris?
>So that's why...
And after you show him compassion in chapter 4 you can see his thoughts for a second
>(Phew... should be okay until we reach the study...)
I think this motherfucker has lived through all this before and is enlisting Kris and maybe the knight to manipulate Susie and YOU (he sees your heart and explains exactly what it is and it's significance in the chapter 1 battle tutorial) to some unknown end.
>>712597320to be fair you literally forced him to rape his childhood friend against his will
>>712596890>go go power [!$!#] gang
>>712597435>This isn't the 90s, screens don't reflect anything. Headcanon.it does on switch which is the platform toby is aiming for
>>712597298The horrors of a Vtuber taking off the avatar
>>712597396That's also headcanon, so we'll have to agree to disagree.
Well, anons, how have CH 3+4 changed your opinion on Ralsei?
>>712597320rude, the doe rape will continue until morale improves
>>712597101>implyingMost suselle fags are sending off their Kris to a berdly date in chapter 5 to give le hecking wholesome lesbians some space
>>712597371Either go further with it and exaggerate it tenfold as a way to point out how it's a parody of yuri manga or make them have more moments of opening up but better executed with maybe either side realizing they're best as friends. Or just let me PROCEED harder.
>>712597407So far no because he skipped a ton of shit and lost his saves from the demo, but he's going to go back and replay chapter 3 from the beginning. That said his voice for Tenna is now my canon voice in my head for him.
I cannot really compare with other streamers since I only watch Vinny and Joel
>>712597371you've pretty much nailed it on the head there i think, even if i wouldn't be massively satisfied with it ending that way it'd still be far more bearable if noelle wasn't imagining a completely different susie from the susie in the reality
>>712597371Noelle needs to start taking an interest in her beyond a crush.
>>712597486still the same
>>712597486I'm starting to enjoy watching him whimper at my feet
>>712597486He knows what's going to happen and refuses to tell (Me), and he's working with Kris who's working with the Knight so he's an enemy
>>712597101I bet there are Susellefags who were specifically avoiding that diner like fire once and picked every bad option between Kris and Susie.
>>712597486The fluffy boy suffering will continue until morale improves
>>712594335 (OP)>working with Gaster>protects Toriel from being sucked into the Dark Sanctuary>protects Toriel while she's alone>does this to extend Gaster's experiment and shift the storyHow will /v/ cope when they learn this is what really happened
>>712597486I don't like that he's yet another Susie orbiter and I don't like how he's still hiding shit, I understand why he does it more now but I still don't like it
>>712597486Friendship rekindled with RALSEI, now KRIS is my enemy
>>712597503It's especially ironic because Ralsei specifically asks Kris to have fun with Susie at the festival for his sake and never leave her alone. Imagine being this tone-deaf.
>>712597486I need to save him from Kris.
>>712597623should have been a red pixel
>>712597486nigger should had his hat on
>>712597486I BOUGHT HIS FUCKING NENDO BECAUSE HE WAS AN UWU BOY AND NOW I WANT TO STRANGLE HIM AFTER CHAPTER 4
I WILL BREAK HIS NECK AND LEAVE HIM TO DIE FOREVER THE FIRST OPPORTUNITY I GET
>>712597617He's not protecting Toriel but investigating her, we'll soon find out he's been keeping the police in check too and he's already planning to "befriend" Carol to get all the codes
I hope the Goner reference goes full circle and either the Knight or a Titan casts something similar
https://youtu.be/XgcbShn9x8g?si=hqUxlrpgKkc9kjo-&t=1084
>>712597486I always loved him but now I'm even more desperate to give him a happy ending.
He's one of the worst-suffering Toby characters and it feels like he has the least chance for "making it".
>>712597486No, but I want to fuck him even more than I used to.
>>712597486him upsetting susie over her healing for no reason leading to her refusing to even do it anymore made me want to kick his ass
but then he had a fullblown breakdown and i felt kinda bad for him
>>712597371I think my biggest problem here is her only presence in their journey has been out of the loop, and the only time she actually was in it was a dream she doesn't remember. Kris, Ralsei, and Susie have all had bonding moments that felt natural as a result of their circumstances whereas Noelle's felt more FORCED (which kind of works what with the Dess situation n all). I think there's still room to build up a more meaningful connection between them all with the Holiday's involvement in the plot, though. Kris' relationship works already due to their past being fleshed out, so Susie feels the most inorganic as a consequence.
>>712597404He's faking it, he wants (You) to think he NEEDS (You)
>>712596697>Too stupid to get the stupid kids jokeIt hurts
>>712597180It would be so fucking lame after all the hype about the game only having one ending and the prophecy is horrible and inescapable, you never actually have to do anything special to change the outcome. That's limp dick shit only casualfags want so they don't have to do anything challenging for their happy ending.
>>712597617He better have a damn good explanation for his behavior come fifth chapter
>>712597640RALSEI, RHALSEI SHOW ME YOUR CAAAAAHRR
>>712597654Susellefags will have to come to terms with the fact that Kris and Susie are basically inseparable now.
>>712597486I knew exactly how his character arc will play out long before the release but holy shit I was still moved to tears. Good thing I hugged him just in case.
>>712596513The game makes it explicitly clear that it's the player's choice to continue down that route.
So will we get a 'good' ending as defined conventional standards? No.
But we'll get an ending that's entirely our own, and besides, forging your own path is fun regardless of the final outcome.
Are you able to beat the Knight mantle-less? Have you earned your right of passage yet?
>>712594335 (OP)Who has the "round house kick a skeleton" copypasta?
>>712597740er, rather a dream she thinks isn't real*
>>712597486I trust him even less. I think he's fully aware of being a game world, like Flowey/sans, and is trying to manipulate us.
YOU WON'T GET ME
I KNOW WHAT GAME YOU'RE PLAYING
IT WORNT WORK
>They'll hear the ring of Heaven's call
>Image is of a ring with wings
>Chapter 4 Dark Fountain rings out for (You) to close it
what did they mean by this
>>712596819WE CAN GO WIDER
>>712597435>No, Chara is the angel in Genocide and Asriel is the angel in Pacifist. Play the game.Chara says he is the demon that comes when people call its name. Please play the game instead of spouting your headcanon :/
>>712597749The joke is dih = dick, like bih = bitch, for zoomers.
>>712597678Ralsei and Kris are allies. Probably stronger allies than Ralsei and Susie honestly, they seem to be being honest with each other about their plans.
Why are there so many EvilKris fags specifically during American hours?
>>712597371It would have to go like
>Susie acts like her initial bully persona around Noelle at first>Noelle is super into her>As they grow closer Susie let's down her guard and acts like her real goofy self but shows no romantic interest in Noelle the doormat>Noelle actually doesn't like this genuine side of her and has to confront the fact she was only infatuated with the perception of Susie she had built up in her head that tied into her weird pushover masochism thing>She then grows to like the real Susie from the ground up and overcomes her desire to be bullied and grows in confidence >This new side of Noelle impresses Susie and THEN Noelle's renewed interest can be reciprocatedBut instead Noelle will just spill her spaghetti over and over while Susie acts as a different character around her
>>712597834the player is the angel
the angel's heaven is seeing papyrus on screen and he must be banished to the undertale universe
>>712597868durr durr durr
TOBY I CANT BELIVE YIY SOULD OUT OF RALSEI PLUSH I WISH I BOUGH ONE SOON WAAHAAHHAHAHA
>>712597832>trying to manipulate usI literally just want this nigga to be happy with his friends.
He doesn't need to manipulate shit. He just needs to give me instructions and I'll follow them.
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>You know, last time... At the shelter... Yo, that wasn't cool, haha.
>...? Kris? I do not know what you are experiencing recently, but...
>... Kris, please, look to the Angel for guidance. I will pray for you as well.
>Kris... stay away from the shelter.
So whatever happened in the shelter with Kris is common knowledge to the town?
>>712596890I wish
>>712597486I always liked him, now he's just a bit less suspicious. I really hope he's (You)pilled and not on team Kris...
>>712597916Evil Heroes are based
So what are the consequences of eating moss on every chapter?
>>712597938>Do (You) want to join us, KrisDid people really not pick up that red You is (Us)?
>>712597938AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWW YEAH LOVE ME SOME MAMA DOE
>>712597486I love how he has more of a proper character arc instead of soft uwu boy.
I really relate to his "lying out of fear of worrying others and hoping for things to be different" plight as well as the constant self-dismissal and people's pleasing.
I can't even find him hot anymore I just want to hug him.
>kris and susie wouldnโt be friends after one d- AAAAAACKKKKKKKK!!!
>>712597940why do they worship the angel when the prophecy says the angel is bad?
>>712597792Best I've been able to do so far is 3 healing items and no revives. Feel like I'm a ways away from doing it mantle-less.
>Susie coming back to tell the skeleton and the whore to shut the hell up
Too based.
Also, was Kris about to jump out of the fucking window near the end?
>>712597780Thank you, I didn't think about it like this, I shall continue moving forward
>>712597717Wouldn't even shock me, I think everything at the end of Chapter 5 is just smokescreen
I assume the church is what it relates to, but I always associated the Delta Rune with Toriel specifically
>Police symbol is Asgore>Delta Rune is Toriel>Pinecone is Carol/RudyIt very well could be the church, I think it would be more interesting too
>>712597756Just keep in mind the ends to Chapter 1 and 2 also, they throw you off and paint a picture
I guarantee it's not that simple, Sans has motivation beyond what's shown
my name is ralsei i lie to my friends
>>712597998Kris flushes you down a toilet eventually
>>712597938lmao is that a fit bit?
>>712597940The Shelter is where they keep their WMDs in case of a crisis. (Weapons of Mass Determination)
>>712597979Roaring knight? That looks more like a roaring slut to me
>>712597998You override your current title with something moss related (horrifying)
>>712597940We already know
Kris and Dess went in to the shelter alone, 'on a dare'
Only Kris came back
>>712597940It's definitely a place that's easy to die in, and in reality there's an evil magical reason why, but the adults think it was just shittily constructed and/or there's exposed piping or machinery down there. Most people think Dess died down there while exploring with Kris, but Asgore and Carol think something else happened. They may have limited knowledge of dark worlds but I don't think they're working with the knight and Kris.
>>712594675I laugh every time I see this one
>>712597465>teenagers with powers suddenly become literal world ending titansThis is just worms, isn't?
>>712597486ehh I've always been cool with him he gotta stop trying to get at this dick though
>>712597486My feelings went from there is still hope for him to "FUCK YOU FOR TEASING GETTING THE HAT BACK YOU HACK ONLY TO MAKE A JOKE OUT OF IT! HE LOOKED SO MUCH BETTER WITH IT ON! FUCK YOU TOBIAS FOXINGTON!"
Ive never seen anything like this. Dont get me wrong, it looks cool, just, never thought I would see something like this before.
DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMN CAROL GETS TO PEG THAT???
>>712597486Sympathetic, but also even more untrustworthy. He's sentient enough and knowledgable enough to know that he's a videogame character, or at least someone that is meant to play a specific role and follow a specific path. But I am also aware that he's hiding shit from (Me) and is siding with Kris, who is DEFINITELY my enemy. The fact that Kris snitches to Ralsei without (Me) looking and tries to appease (Me) is pissing me off. But at the same time, he has grown too attached to his friends and wants to be a Real Boy. I'll probably have to kill him but I'd feel real bad if I did and prefer not to.
>>712597201Myself.
I have friends on the inside watching.
>>712597743That's so weird to suddenly drop it then. And I was under the impression that Kris was just recently bodyjacked by the Soul but the games events make it seem like it's been going on long before the game starts
>>712597257i keep almost typing the rumbling when i'm talking about the roaring, this shit ain't funny man
>>712597938>(You) will never poledance for kriswhy even live bros...
>>712597934Chara says he's the demon not the angel. No amount of headcanon cope will change that :/
>>712598069Damn, so that's where the image came from
>>712598147Who are you riding with anon?
>>712597445>genuine psychopath shitWell, we're at the 50% mark in the story and have seen:
>mindbreaking, manipulation, and forced murder, and you can torture Noelle afterward by wearing her watch and showing it to her in the hospital>rape and mental dominationMore kino is definitely on the menu.
>>712597486I want to hear him make goat noises
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Susie acts "like a different character" with Noelle because she's special to her. You can see from Noelle's blog that Susie never bullied her. It's love.
>>712597371In retrospect it probably could've been fixed by just giving us a 4-party system and having Noelle be around more often
>>712598037He was at a metaphorical crossroads in his life, torn between his promise and his desire to help his friend.
Susie, outside
The promise, Inside
This persons art is really cool imo https://x.com/euclicide/status/1933683676266549512
This is how I imagine FRIEND, as this horribly evil entity, maybe the pointed tail entity itself.
>>712598063>Weapons of Mass Determination
>>712598080>Kris and Dess went in to the shelter alone, 'on a dare'I believe you but where did they implicitly say this?
Toby Fox is going to do this to every single one of us by the end of this game and you will like it
>>712597940monster kid was talking about when susie chased them away
>>712597404i think he just needs some time to adjust after taking the soul out
he seemed like he was struggling a bit when he was drinking his choccy milk
In Dante Alighieri's Divine Comedy story Inferno, Minos is depicted as having a snake-like tail. He sits at the entrance to the second circle in the Inferno, which is the beginning of Hell proper. There, he judges the sins of each soul and assigns it to its appropriate punishment by indicating the circle to which it must descend. He does this by circling his tail around his body the appropriate number of times. He can also speak to clarify the soul's location within the circle indicated by the wrapping of his tail.
>>712597780>forging your own path is fun regardless of the final outcome.even if everyone else suffer from it?
Just how much was cut from Chapter 3? It reeks of development hell
>Shadow Crystal glimpse where Undyne is in a block of ice
>>712598247Ah sweet, it's another episode of "Susellefag is desperately searching for every instance of Susie mentioning Noelle's name to prove she's in love with her".
>>712598058ralsey.... show me your car.....
>>712598268Are you aware Queen hard namedrops Determination in chapter 2 when theorizing about how any Lightner can open a fountain?
>>712597728You should've learnt your lesson years ago. No matter what you do, you can't save the goat.
>>712598230With (you), of course
>>712598346The third board game was cut and yeah it had development hell because Toby originally wanted to change engines
>>712598005in this context it'd be (you) making the choice for kris, anon
>No I don't want that!
>Susie finding another man...?!
>I want her to think about me and no one else for the rest of my life!
>Even after I die.... I want to be at the front of her mind for a while! Ten years, at least!!
Toby, what the bloody fuck is this?
>>712597486I have always liked him but now he's one of my favorites along with susie and asgore. I want him to have a breakdown and go schizo
>>712598230My dick says Tasque Manager
but my SOUL says Nubert (my man!)
>>712597486I'm less inclined to believe he's a secret villain, he's just a well intentioned idiot. Still wish he kept the hat the chapter 1 design is 10/10 and the pink goat faggot is 300x worse
>>712598058What did you want him to say?
>Hello my name is Ralsei you are prophesized to stop the end of the world but in order to do that you must form a lesbian romance with that annoying girl in your class >Oh also that guy standing right next to you is also a prophesized hero but he's also working with the mysterious masked figure who's working to destroy the world but may not actually be trying to destroy the world and he's also working for that girls mom and he's also possessed by a Demonic spirit who controls his voice and actions but sometimes he resists it and his own wishes and actions take precedent but sometimes not>Anyways don't try to stop anything Kris is doing because if you do it could mess up the prophecy and also Kris isn't actually a bad guy and probably isn't doing this for bad reasons you just have to trust me and him and trust that everything will work out in the end>Oh and there's a man who exists in the seams if reality and sometimes gives Kris an eggSusie isn't ready for the full truth
>>712597371I feel cucked everytime they're having those shipbait moments. I want Noelle or Susie for MYSELF
>>712598265What implies the tail is pointed? The prophecy is just circles
What was Kris's deal with Tenna?
>>712598379yeah and that faggot bitch kris can't say it when SAVEing
Vessel is the Frisk of Deltarune and I can't wait to get him back so i can bully that fuckin loser
>>712598420Real Ralsei enjoyers want to see him suffer more
>>712598230the original
star
walker
>>712598230Starwalker because I'm loyal to my bro.
So much so that I will ignore dominatrix mommy sex with Tasque
>>712598470>What did you want him to say?my name is ralsei i like to cum..................................
*smacks lips*
while lying to my friends
>>712598247but where the fuck is it coming from
>>712597201https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n75gKKgpQZc
>>712598404>yoyo games actually bent over backwards to accommodate toby>deltarune is the only reason game maker isn't still a joke of a game engine
>>712598265Recent fanart is giving me a real hankering for black and red palettes
>>712598147Wow, someone actually remembered Sweet Capn Cakes.
>>712595424>>712598520Well, then I guess she'll have to use one of her 99 fire potions?
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>>712598374Why not? I mean, people do the same with Krusie and Kriselle. I like both of them too, but I think it's silly to deny that Noelle is special and important to Susie, though definitely expressed differently from the love she feels for Kris.
>>712598147This should be a thing in Castle Town instead of the Cafe thing. You can ride it with whichever Darkner you like and get funny pseudo-dates.
>>712598518>knight.... is a .... CUTE
>>712598570lmao he could have used LรVE and it would be better
>>712598515That Tenna would get to put on a show for everyone again, he would keep Toriel asleep, he wouldn't tell anyone about Kris opening the fountain, and he would stall for the Knight to get there
>>712598346Toby confirmed it went through development hell in the newsletters. Among other things, he said that once ch3 was figured out, it made doing ch4 way easier because the direction of the game had been set.
In retrospect, i think the S Room game and the Knight encounter were a big part of that.
A LOT of back and forth and cutting was done to make sure chapter 3 actually mattered while maintaining its tone and not dragging out the pacing.
Another clue is how the Stealth Zone original song had Lost Girl motif. Along with the fact Noelle is associated with that box (and boxes with the sneaker Solid Snake), and the Undynegrave crystal dialogue, it seems like somehow it was possible to get Noelle into chapter 3. Maybe Kris would whisper their name after weird route, IDK.
https://youtu.be/1eJ2cqH-nBc
Also, an entire third board was cut, apparently for pacing. That blue city area with the orange bridge in the third S Room game was gonna be a full board.
>>712598346Wtf is noelle doing on chapter 3
>>712598648>that boy old man
>>712597935Theyve been selling this since ch2 itll be back
>>712595650why are they italics
>>712598617I'M SO FUCKING EXCITED
The "Tail of Hell" implies there's a Hell in addition to Heaven, but if the Angel's in Heaven, who's in Hell?
>>712598618>though definitely expressed differentlyYeah, it's called "Friendship". She considers her a friend. The problem here is not with Susie, it's with Noelle who literally makes no attempt to learn more about Susie and completely ignores everything that Susie says about herself.
>>712598617hell yeah brother