why do faggots like to suck this game's dick as much if not as hard as like bluelion fags suck dimitri's cock?

>>712597697
they read the wikipedia and fanfics because certainly nobody played this shit on release

I asked

>>712597534 (OP)
How, it's babby tier easy

This the thread?

>>712597534 (OP)
>Ike's wife candidates on the cover
>No soiren
Confirmed straight

>>712597965
no

>>712597697
For some reason western Nintendo fans have an unhealthy obsession with every game that came out on the Gamecube and hail it as the best of their respective franchise.

itt

>>712597697
>>712597850
>>712598092
It's a good game, sorry it's not dogshit like awakening

>>712597534 (OP)
Filtered by the story right? I don’t blame you if that’s the case. My god is it dull. So many text dumps and every character aside from like two are completely one-dimensional.

>>712598157
how's that cocksucking doing you? fucking faggot

>>712598198
I'm not homosexual either, sorry bro, you're gonna have to find another guy's cock to suck on.

>>712598157
It's extremely easy and its one gimmick might as well not exist.

>>712598296
>Muh easy
The most popular games are all fucking easy you toad. fucking 3H can be beaten without even the slightest effort and it's the highest selling game in the series, it's still dogshit.

can we have an fe thread without the cocksucking faggots?

>>712598391
No.

>>712598296
>>712597926
harder than the gbaslop you brownoids keep failing at

>>712598382
Ok, PoR is still extremely easy and dull in all its aspects.
>>712598436
It's not harder than 6 or even 7 lol

>Only choices for FE threads are a shitty 3H one or bait threads like this
I guess I'll wait for tomorrow then, make better threads retards

>>712598506
>and dull in all its aspects.
It has the best story and characters in the whole series without falling into shitty anime gimmicks

>>712598560
stop sucking cock anon

>>712598391
thread would die instantly. we tried it elsewhere and it gets about one post per day

>>712598593
You're rather obsessed with cock, are you sure you're not gay faggot? It's not the 80s anymore, come out the closet.

>>712598436
No it's not it's even easier than sacred stones. It's the easiest game in the whole fucking series besides 3 Houses

>it's easy
Post your maniac mode clear, faggot.

>>712598786
he cant. he's too busy sucking cock

>>712598529
Its not bait, and I'm not big on fire emblem. I played 3H and liked it and wanted to try one of the older games, so I picked Path of Radiance. I think I might just be retarded, but I keep losing units because they are all weak pieces of shit. I'm on the level where you need to escape to the ships and you can recruit a blue haired guy who is all "I kill sub humans" and then he goes "jk, I'm on your team now"

what fe game do i play if i dont want all this cock sucking faggots?

>>712598696
3H is harder than Tellius by a mile. There are genuinely only 3 enemies in Tellius that can kill one of your primary combat units (the black haired laguz, the black knight, and ashnard). The game is piss easy and was widely hated before smashfags (who still didnt play the actual game)

>>712598878
there were no gay characters until fates (troons favorite game)

>>712598931
>Look at me talking all this bullshit!
FE tards will really just say any random fucking shit I swear

>>712598878
Awakening was the last game in the series with no homos. As long as you don't interact with the FE community you will have fun with most of the games.

Honest opinions?

>>712598931

>>712598976
Ironic post considering that PoR is extremely braindead

>>712599034
it's shit. I love it

>>712598931
>watch me suck that cock harder than you anon!!

>>712598878

>>712598957
Wrong, Tellius introduced Heather as a dyke. Everything afterwards except 3H have only straight characters, with some characters only turning gay if you, the player, are gay.

>>712597697
The easy answer, FE's fanbase being full of fanfic-rp tards that didn't get past their edgelord autismo.
PoR/RD is probably as good as an FE story can get, but the gameplay of PoR was easily one of the worse in the series.
The game was criticized back then for feeling incomplete, where even GBA games felt like they offered more. If there is any praise the game could receive, it's mainly due to how RD carried the rest of it. The Tellius games could have been peak FE, if it weren't for PoR.
The game could have done way better, even at the time

Our Hero Mangs attempted to make his Maniac Mode run an ironman and had to backtrack after 2 chapters killed half his units

>>712599107
>>712599191
he looks like he suck cocks too!

>>712599191
why do 3hrt fags like to suck his cock so much?

>UHH THIS GAME YOU LIKE? IT WAS SHIT
Why are modern FEfags so revisionist?

Only poor brown Pokesnoys emulating on they phones liked the GBAslop

>>712599354
I feel called out.

Engage still the worst kek

>>712599526

>>712597697
Easy, it's the first Fire Emblem game for a lot of people on here.
>On Gamecube, which a lot of people on here had growing up
>Easily accessible via Dolphin
>Has fun characters that interact with one another just enough to still have a personality, especially compared to previous titles where after you recruit a character they just stop talking until their end screen (I still think Titania's one of the best designed units in any SRPG)
>Maps are pretty well designed, added a bunch of new terrain effects, no real stinkers except for the 3 parter swamp before Ike's promotion
>Battle animations at the time were incredible, great character models
>Ike is a cool Lord, see his growth from a kid into an unstoppable war machine
>Story goes along at a decent pace, never in one place for too long

It's got its problems (it's pretty easy even on American Hard Mode, weak Enemy phase, etc.) but it was a perfect first Fire Emblem for me.

>>712598847
Did you give all BEXP to Nephenee?

>>712598976
>>712599058
>>712599105
>>712598931
It's relatively easy to beat PoR with Ike solo. I did it back when I was a stupid teenager and the game was new.

>>712597534 (OP)
How? I beat this game as a 12 year old. It's not that hard if I could do it as a kid.
Maybe you're just a retard, I beat Blazing Blade and Sacred Stones back when they were new in NA.

Every FE game is soloed by 3 juggernauts

Cutesythea

>>712599669
You can beat FE8 with seth too, using Solo runs isn't an indicator for easiness

>>712599848
Yes they are, especially when it's the only force deployed unit.

>>712599107
>ignoring Shom

>>712599992
No, I'm not playing this game stop it.

>>712599848
Seth cannot seize and hence cannot clear every map on his own, so he can't solo.

>>712600036
>Lel semantic

>>712599661
No, I couldn't figure out what weapons she uses so I shelved her. I gave a lot of it to Ike, Boyd, and Oscar

>>712599632
>Easy, it's the first Fire Emblem game for a lot of people on here.
No it's not. Stop larping. It had the worst sales in the franchise for games available worldwide and very few people pirate.

>>712600485
dumb salescuck

>>712600485
Do you just reply before even thinking in that tiny noggin of your so called brain or are you just retarded

>>712600572
>>712600628
If a game is extremely unpopular, then it was not most people's first game, it was very few people's first game. It's also 20 years old now so only 40 year olds who still post here could plausibly have started with it.

It's really not much of a debate that PoR is the easiest FE when it gives you so much BEXP and you can rig perfect level ups if you want.

>>712600754
So you're just retarded, okay

>>712600029

>>712600789
Ironic post

>>712600838
>No u
Extra retarded

>>712600029
Shom is gay, but he's not a faggot.

>it gives you so much BEXP
No one cares how easy normal mode is bud.

>>712600886
FE7 - most common oldfag starting point
Awakening - second most common starting point
3H - most common starting point
You're extremely stupid if you think tellius (250k lifetime sales) is the first game for "a lot" of people

>>712601049
>FE7
>Most common
This isn't true, you overplayed your hand larper 90 percent of people never played FE7 back then

>>712597534 (OP)
reload

>he admits to savescumming
your embarrassing yourself in front of the femanons...

>>712600485
/v/ is a much different audience than the general gaming public. If you were on here before 2016 you knew how to pirate games and you played a shitload of them your whole life. It's like how a bunch of people here first played Persona 3/4 via PCSX2

>>712599632
>Easy, it's the first Fire Emblem game for a lot of people on here.
People need to stop making shit up just because they like the way it sounds.

>>712601107
>90 percent of people
90 percent of who? FE7 is the most popular GBA game and outsold both tellius's combined.

>>712601196
>most popular
lol, lmao even

>712599632
>Easy, it's the first Fire Emblem game for a lot of people on here.
No it fucking wasn't. Hardly anyone played FE back then.

>>712601142
I'm going to. How often should I just accept that a unit is dead?

>>712597534 (OP)
I love PoR but I got filtered by the dawn brigade in fe10 lol

>This schizo is now gonna shit his pants because he wasn't on /v/ when PoR was actually poplaur
Goddamn how does FE attract these weirdos, just take the L

>>712601303
I did
"people" like you (zoomers) don't count

>>712600987
I can't speak for Maniac, but
1 - Hard mode is already easy enough without BEXP
2 - Even in hard mode it's more than enough to get 2 or 3 carries going. Even a little bit of BEXP is enough to skew the game's balance

I forgot how solipsistic FEtards are due to their autism.

>>712601380
I'm almost 32. Don't give me that nonsense. The 5th and 6th gen were the series' trough sales-wise and it was barely known in the west. Hardly anyone played PoR.

>>712597697
I'd like to suck his cock but I'm not gay because I ama woman

>>712597697
Best game in the series. Simple as.

Ike is cool. Titania and Lucia were waifu. Black Knight is cool. Steffan is cool. Soren is cool. The art was the best in the series.

>>712601672
t. roon

This is the only fire emblem game I've ever really played and it was awesome

Why don't anons talk about Berwick Saga? /v/ is full of FE fans yet no one talks about the most notable Kaga after leavving FE.

>>712601808
it's ugly as fuck so no one wants to play. the vestarias are cool though

>>712601808
even though berwick saga is the best of his games, it's the least similar to fire emblem. so some anons might post about it in general srpg threads but not in unrelated threads. don't want to be like those advance wars fags that try to hijack fire emblem threads

Wife.

>>712602178
worst unit in the game

>>712597534 (OP)
>Not doing ike only
You're asking for it

>>712602034
Sami is Minerva's descendant and has a thick ginger carpet

>>712602208
NTA, but I still love her just the same and she'll always be my one and only.
Sadly you're not wrong, however.

Why do you people insist on splitting the threads. For a supposed general, you guys sure do a pretty bad job of actually making one.

>>712602178

>>712602510
If only she didn't cut her hair like a dyke

>>712603246
Short hair good

I love them.

>>712602648
I don't know anymore, and I dare not ask for risk of starting a shitstorm.
>>712603246
She wasn't given a choice in the matter, anon!
>>712603321
She's still very pretty, but I think it would bother her for a while. She just wouldn't let anyone know that it did unless you were very close to her desu

>>712597697
It's the only Fire Emblem game with a competent story, it's easy but not braindead, and there's no reclassing autism. It's good.

Lucia and Renning should've been able to use Amiti.

>>712603735
>unbreakable brave sword
>swordmaster crit bonus
>astra
I wish. Then she'd be far more relevant and I wouldn't spend all my gold forging silver swords for her because I love her anyway.

There’s something about seeing FE Twitter profiles from a year ago, that are inactive. Some say goodbye and some just abruptly stop posting. It actually makes me… sad? Yeah. I save their art, just so that someone always remembers.

>>712603735
Renning gets Ragnell. It looks badass on him.
The one that gets my goat is that Tauroneo is a lance general instead of a sword general.
I fucking hate Meg, dude.

>>712604540
AI kings owned those artsissies

>>712601159
And that's exactly why the GBA games are the most popular, because even toasters could run GBA emulators as early as like 2005 but PS2/GC emulation was out of reach for your average computer until around the 2010s.

>>712604902
They’ll never even have a crumb of their soul.

>>712598436
Retard. Ike is one of THE strongest Lords in the entire franchise, and one of a handful of them that can LITERALLY solo the entire game even on the super hardest difficulty. How the FUCK are you losing?

>>712604974
AI generated drawing

>>712599161
>If there is any praise the game could receive, it's mainly due to how RD carried the rest of it. The Tellius games could have been peak FE, if it weren't for PoR.
How is that the case considering RD is arguably the worst entry in the series?

>>712597534 (OP)
It’s too slow

I want Alfred in my ass, Xander in my mouth, and Dimitri in my pussy, all at the same time

>>712605617
alearposter...

>>712605617
>all blonde boys
BlackQUEEN chan...

>>712599034
it is a masterpiece

>>712599034
old so tedious to play

>>712597534 (OP)
How? I rolled an Ike with pretty shit strength and he still almost solo'd the game for me. Unless you mean filtered by how fucking slow the game is, then yeah I can see it.

>>712604982
he's an unremarkable sword infantry unit in a game dominated by mounts
>but he gets a sword at the end of the game!
so does roy

>>712602648
Cute
>>712604902
I enjoy aislop sometimes, but I do want to commission a real artist eventually. It has a human touch that AI lacks, even as far as it's come in the last year or so.

Relay??

>>712597697
Why do transfolx get so mad about Dimitri, xisters?

>>712607174
here sexy
>>706625671

>>712605617
Wouldn't you let Dimitri fuck your ass if he asked? Why be so specific?

>>712597534 (OP)
have you gotten best girl yet

>>712606751
>dominated by mounts
That can't touch him, and when they do it's chip damage at worst. And if you're in Chapter 18 or later, he'll just Aether to heal everything back.
The only threats to Ike are siege tomes and the final boss (which is just one big fat RNG check regardless of how you play).

>78 days since the last relaysissy thread
yuuup griefers got that ultimate W

>>712607775
All things run their course. It was fun while it lasted.

>>712607775
Nothing stopping you from changing that

>>712607758
I think that anon meant you're better off using mounted units like Titania, Oscar, Marcia, or Jill to dominate the game. Which is true since an Ike solo would be slower since he doesn't have a ranged weapon until the last 2 chapters of the game nor does he have high mobility.

>>712607775
>he doesn't know

>>712599107
can someone post the faggot sword fight picture

>>712608694
Oh yeah, that's one of the game's major flaws. It's really fucking slow compared to the GBA games. Enemy phases, especially on harder difficulties, can take up to 10 minutes on some of the later maps. It's absurd.
My point is the game is one of the easiest in the franchise. That's not a huge flaw to have. But taking nearly two hours to finish a single chapter is a problem, especially coming hot off the incredibly quick and snappy FE7 and FE8.

I THINK FE SUCKS
t. fire emblem fan

>>712609172

>>712607174
im playing fe7

>>712609540
thank you!

AIchads, if you're around, I'm still thirsty for Fiora like pic related.

>>712609542
FE11 for me, but on normal difficulty because I'm a filthy casual and just want to relax and try to reclaim some of the experience of the first time I played it.

>>712607775
>even griefers don't want to touch my run
grim.

Is this fucking retard actually trying to claim you can solo FE9 maniac with Ike? I'd fucking love to see you try!

>>712611654
>everything that isn't on a horse is bad because the LTC youtuber said so

>>712611654
>waste 30 hours clicking end turn just for me to ignore you because I'm autistic anyways

>>712611292
And the high res version of this if possible.

>>712611826
Nevermind AIGOAT delivered in the other thread.

why does no one ever talk about Awakening despite being the game that supposedly saved the franchise?

>>712612359
Awakening gets attack on all sides by autistic oldniggers, gameplay cucks from fates, and 3H newfags, so people don't bring it up. It did in fact save the series though and was the first good game made by IS post-Kaga.

>>712611654
I only see C17 being a wall because he might not have enough AVO to rig dodging stuff being forced to carry Leanne.

>>712611826
>>712612103
Zelestia anon won!
For what it's worth though, I really like your girl too! That pic is cute.

>>712612359
Gameplayfags and storyfags bully most pro Awakening enjoyers.

>>712597697
People treat this game like it’s the Second Coming simply because it is probably the FE that is the most “balanced” between story and gameplay (like an 8/10 story with 6/10 gameplay). Most other FEs are like 9/10 and 2/10 gameplay/story in either direction. Also Ike.

>>712611654
I've heard it's doable it just sucks shit due to the iron sword economy before the store opens up. Very much a reload at the slightest inconvenience simulator for a good chunk of chapters

>>712612359
The story's retarded and the gameplay is bad so all that's left is eugenics which is more or less hard solved anyway due to stupid shit like galeforce

>>712612597
Bro, how the fuck are you even going to complete chapter 1 with just Ike? Those axeniggers will rape your ass, you don't have enough healing.
>rig
Are you fucking serious with me right now...
>YEAH BRO YOU CAN TOTALLY SOLO THE GAME YOU JUST HAVE TO USE SAVE STATES AND RIG SO IT'S LIKE YOU HAVE 100% HIT AND 100% AVOID IN EVERY BATTLE

awakening troons really have those rose tinted glasses glued to their eyes.

>>712613180
every solo run will rig for dodges at some point idiot

>>712613180
>claim you can
Yes, I am in fact talking about the possibility of completing a solo run. Feasibility is another thing entirely.

>>712611292
https://files.catbox.moe/r3urdp.png
https://files.catbox.moe/n5g9u5.png
https://files.catbox.moe/dsxjwl.png

>>712597697
>why do faggots like to suck this game's dick as much if not as hard as like bluelion fags suck dimitri's cock?

They're giant story fags who self-insert as Ike. They hate the new games because the MCs aren't Gary Stus on the level of Ike.

>>712612359
Awakening has a special place in my heart but on replay it's pretty bad. I like the plot, but the gameplay just isn't fun. Hard Mode and lower is just a Robin solo sweep and Lunatic and above is just frustrating and not enjoyable.

>>712599107
will i turn into a rapist if i play this??

>>712613312
Thanks again! You're truly an AIGOD.
Those are really sweet.

>>712613312
#1: Kent’s POV
#2: Mark’s POV
#3: Eliwood’s POV

Awakening remake will double 3 Houses' sales figures

>>712609435
Checks out.

Okay tell me what is this Kent thing going on with Fiora.

>Titania’s design
10/10
>Titania’s design if she had tired eye bags
11000/10

>>712613573
God damn it anon, let me have my moment.
This is my wedding night with my pure virgin wife. It was the first time for both of us and it was a wonderful and special experience that will connect us for all eternity.

>>712612359
I dunno, but honestly, I think the RNG skills in L+ are a neat idea. Yeah, they fuck you hard sometimes depending on where they land, but the truth is that it makes the map unique every time and forces you to develop an answer to them on your own. Meanwhile, in CQ lunatic, I can literally copy-paste a Zoran strat and it will work 99.9% of the time (RNG willing) because there's no variance on those maps at all.

>>712613916
https://youtu.be/BexfY9mdkFw

>>712613983
enjoy resetting meanwhile chrom rails you if you wanna clear the tutorial

>>712613983
I don't mind admitting Lunatic filters me. I don't have fun with that level of ball-crushing difficulty where raising more than a couple of units is nearly impossible. I'm glad they have made later difficulties more reasonable in this regard.

>>712614140
>he plays as the troon MC
your problem

yep, I'm being filtered

>>712613805
People need to accept the fact that no FE is ever going to reach 3H’s sales mark thanks to the Covid bump that it had. It’s the same delusion that makes people think Animal Crossing will be a >15 million seller ever again.

>>712612359
Because whatever vfeggers may try to convince you of, it's a game that has no fans. No one is stopping you from talking about Awakening, it's just that no one is interested in doing so. No one really wanted to relay it, either.
It has no staying power, no cult. Its fanbase is a bunch of normies who fondly remember it when Katy Perry was still on the radio, but haven't returned to it in a decade. I'm probably being a little harsh since I'm an Awakeningbabb who loved it once, but at the end of the day, nobody really cares about it anymore - except in an ever more distant, abstract, idealized kind of way.

>>712614794
engayge just sucked. it beat 3H's sales numbers opening week

>>712614376
try lunatic+ without pair up redditchrom as a male robin then shitlord

>>712614434
Wait at the top until after the reinforcements spawn.

>>712615005
that's smart!

>>712615003
i've done that before yes. it's not hard because chrom gets an auto-S and both chrom and robin should be strong enough to fight as leads by chapter 5

>>712613983
RNG skills are a godawful idea, at the very least Luna is the last fucking skill that should ever be RNG.

>>712615003
i did lunatic+ with male robin. didn't matter much.
the real problem is that I didn't allow the use of unlockable reward items. being able to reclass robin for early extra levels makes a huge difference.
and obviously I didn't allow online stuff either. you can easily cheese with free spotpass stuff.
unfortunately the game sucks no matter how you try to restrict yourself.

So much dogshit in this thread.

>>712615114
hawkeye+ and counter+ are both worse than luna+

>>712597697
Cause this game has a good story AND decent gameplay.
When you think about it the only map that beats this game map wise is conquest.

>Good story
>oh my warp powder
inb4 some faggot will suck treehouse dick

>>712598506
>t.only played hm

>>712615114
Luna+ is like the tamest L+ skill lol
Vanilla Luna tends to just add a little bit of damage, and Luna+ especially really doesn't add that much in most cases early on, when your shitters barely have defenses to begin with.
I mean, do you think crits shouldn't exist either?

I have to agree with the other anon that conceptually, there's nothing wrong with a randomized skill mode. It's basically an official randomizer. The problem is that this official randomizer was clearly not play tested and has actual annoying shit like Counter in it (notable for not being an RNG skill and still being the worst).

>>712612359
Because it's a grindan game which doesn't lend well to discussion. Oddly enough there is a bunch of Lunatic gameplay discussion on YT.
It could be worse. At least it isn't as dead in relevancy as Echoes SoV.

>>712598506
7 is just put unit x with hand axes or javelins and press end turn.
At least in 9 you actually need to do something to kill the bulky enemies.
>6
Damn pulling out rutger milady and percaveil to the front is so hard boys..

>>712615187
So have you not played FE5? Or even FE6? Hell, I'd put all the GBA games over PoR, in terms of map design. There's really nothing that exciting in the game.

>GBA games are better than trannius games

>>712615472
they're both dogshit for babies

>>712606686
>Slow
Tiktok zoomers and their dopmain addiction...
>Solo with ike
They cant even play past hm.

>>712615379
Even the Lunatic(+) commentary is annoying because "expert" players have to larp and pretend that the game has any depth to it. When in reality you just Robin solo, preferably with nosferatu. There's a nigger here who likes to deny the effectiveness of that strategy all the way through, but I can confirm it's the correct way to play Awakening Lunatic(+) after completing tens of runs of it.

The only interesting "meta" in the game is the eugenics program and Apotheosis prep and no one's grinding for that in 2025.

>>712613952
You’re right anon, I’m sorry, just doing a little trolling is all.

>>712615472
Seems like you like neither. I'm not even sure how you can deny it. PoR is an ugly eyesore with slow javcav spam gameplay. Only now they're on steroids because of super canto, forging, and bexp dumps. The maps can't save it, not that they're anything noteworthy.
At least GBA is snappy and portable as fuck.

>>712615425
>Thinks thracia and fe6 have good map design
Damn i sure as hell love spamming end turn to get my unit across a map doing nothing.
What great map design.

Also you guys remember the shitty 3h miklan map everyone loves to hate?
Guess where they get that from.

>>712615594
>Apotheosis prep and no one's grinding for that in 2025.
Is there really that much to discuss about autobattle strategies for R&R3?

>>712615594
>because "expert" players have to larp and pretend that the game has any depth to it
So like every other FE?

>>712615692
>big map BAD
I sure wish one of you brainlets could make an actual critique of Jugdral and FE6 maps one day. No, FE6 chapter 8 is also not bad, just because you don't like using mounts or can't into rescue chains.

>>712615682
>JAVS ARE SO OP GUYS
Damn having 6 MT and doing less then 10 damage per enemy is so amazing guys....

The fact that these niggers say javs isntead of hand axes speaks volumes of how they never actually played the game

>>712615718
Why are you even here? Don't tell me you play these games for the story. What a fag!

>>712615780
It sure as fuck is brilliant fun and engaging pressing end turns 10 times in a row doing nothing but sending your thief across the fucking right side just to loot a single chest.
And then spamming additional 10 end turns to get him back to the escape point.

>>712615798
Are you seriously this fucking autistic? It was obviously chosen for the rhyme, not as a commentary as to whether javelins are better than axes.
Marcia (javelin user) is a Top 3 unit btw

>>712615824
The games are fun but I'm not going to pretend like any of them are "deep". I mean the math is subtraction.

Why didn’t IS seal the deal?

>actually empty turns where you do nothing but move units are le kino
some of you people really just argue for the sake of it

>>712615871
Chess has no subtraction at all. Guess it's not as deep as Fire Emblem. God I can't stand stupid like what you're spewing right now.

>>712615861
But enough about lower difficulties.

>>712615858
>And then spamming additional 10 end turns to get him back to the escape point.
Skill issue, use Rescue chains faggot.

>>712615858
Use a warp staff.

Are there any actually hard SRPG's or do they all just to doing the one best strat over and over again?

>>712615926
FE4... Sovl...

>>712615692
At least Fe6 doesnt have a map thats as shit as-IIEEECK!!

>>712615928
How is it stupid? You say Luna+ is braindead and if that's you're benchmark then yes, all FEs are shallow.

>>712615946
Congrats...you reduced the overall amount of spamming end turn by 2 turns.
Still 16 turns doing absolutely nothing but spamming end turn.

>>712615972
It's a single player genre with predictable AI and no gameplay updates. You're not playing these games to be seriously challenged. Pick up a roguelike if you want turn based and ball crushing

>>712615972
This one is special

>>712616009
Luna+ is not my benchmark, nigger. That was my whole point: Awakening is a shallow game that can't be salvaged by a meme difficulty. It devolves into the same BS as vanilla Lunatic past the earlygame. I'm saying Awakening is not a good representation of what FE gameplay is like.

>>712615170
>counter+
It's just Counter, and yeah it's the worst. I honestly didn't find Hawkeye+ to matter much because I would always math 100% hits regardless. Vantage+ is situational, but largely irrelevant. Pavise+/Aegis+ are annoying but can be worked around in some cases. Luna+ sucks in general. Pass is a real fucking ball buster.

>>712615692
anons ITT will defend this map design like their life depends on it

>>712616178
That chest is Kaga giving the middle finger to LTCers intentionally.

>>712616140
Keep avoiding posting what your allegedly deep game is. Awakening is FE so your headcanon doesn't matter btw.

>>712616178
It's dumb but just don't get it if it bothers you so much. It's fucking Thracia, you don't need 2 extra magic damage at any point.

>>712616178
>give horsefag a chest key
>have him mount up out there
>WAOW BIG MOVE
>it's done faster

>>712616260
>Avoid statboosters because the map design is just to tedious
Not a good defense.

>>712616235
It's a bad FE game. I genuinely can't stand retards like you, who argue bad points in bad faith. You obviously enjoy these games for the gameplay but you're saying it has no depth - zero, zilch, none? Are you saying you're easily amused, like a dumb child?
It's pretty clear that games like Thracia 776, Binding Blade, and Conquest present some interesting puzzles to solve. Even weaker entries like FE7 have some scenarios that require thought, too.
I can only assume you're shitting on the series as a whole because you're butthurt I called Awakening out as bad.

>>712616274
Congrats nigger...you safed up like 2 turns.

Fe9 has the best map design just behind conquest with the ebst story in the franchise.
Thus its the best fe game

>>712616357
>It's pretty clear that games like Thracia 776, Binding Blade, and Conquest present some interesting puzzles to solve.
The first two are braindead stomps and Conquest has less hard chapters than Awakening. The only thing that's actually unique about Conquest is inevitable end, but still, if you're going to dismiss the entire early game of Awakening, then I'll just say rescue skip endgame and suddenly there's no challenge at all.

>>712616413
>siege tome spam behind walls you can't reach without killing everything in front of you first
>enemies have 100000 HP clogging up the map all the time
No, it's just annoying by C20 or so. It's alright up until then.

>>712616260
>chest is missable only because of the sheer mental boredom you have to endure to obtain it
kino! kaga does it again

>>712616535
This, but unironically. High skill players will see it's a waste of time, low skill players will waste their time getting it and you even get to laugh at them.

>>712616482
Oh, so you mask off as the Awakeningfag that you obviously are. I'm reevaluating your previous statements in this new light.
You're also mistaking difficulty with depth. But you enjoy Awakening gameplay while disavowing the series as a whole, so there's clearly something wrong with your head.

>>712616504
>You need mre then just hand axes and javs to kill enemies
>NOOOO ENEMIES ARE TO BULKY
Unironically IS was right to make the fe games baby easy for westtards

>>712615425
>There's really nothing that exciting in the game
I couldn't agree less. PoR has some really solid maps with lots of fun side objectives.

>>712616583
Dude, fucking Titania is like 4RKOing enemies with a forged Iron Axe by the time you get it. The bloat in Maniac in absurd.

>>712616580
I like 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, and 17. Your semantics mean nothing regarding "difficulty" and "depth". Two of the games in your post have 0 depth whatsoever; I seriously hope that you don't think pre-pair-up, pre-skill emblem is even 1/10th as deep as anything past the 3DS era.

>>712616601
Fun Fact:
The boss Rikard has parity which makees him harder to deal with.
As he will ignore tauroneos resolve bonuses and supports.

>>712616663
>Forges iron weapons
Retardalert!!!

>>712616687
You're being such a dishonest fag lol
Thracia two-way trading/rescuing/capturing and are AT LEAST as complex as 3DSFE Pair Up mechanics. But you have an axe to grind with Kagashit, so you'll deny this. Dishonest person.

>>712616737
No shit you forge bugged infinite crit Slim/Thunder instead, a simple comparison like this being lost on you is embarrassing.

>still hasn't been surpassed after 15 years

>>712616817
Nah i just forge steel/silver instead.
Imagine being mad that you cant one round with iron shit lol.

>>712616815
>Dishonest person.
Projection. I like Vestaria Saga 1 and 2, but they're not deep. FE games are fun army roleplaying games, to answer your question from a few posts ago. I don't play them for intellectual stimulation, I play for fun. You would even say that all your favorite games are easy, but since someone else said it, now it's a tragedy.

>Has 26 MT against laguz
Why the fuck is that axe so jacked?

>>712597697
It's the best FE game from a balance of story, gameplay, graphics (for the time) and characters perspective.

>>712616941
I already said you shouldn't play this series for raw difficulty >>712616074
Again, you're mistaking difficulty for depth, like the dummy you are. Even claiming there is no difference between the two, but a semantic one.

Thracia is complex, has depth because the map design and mechanics are engineered as such for it to be complex and have depth. Its difficulty is related but separate matter.

The issue with Awakening, that you continue to downplay, is that it is uniquely solved by the solo, by the path of least resistance. SOME thought must go into a Thracia S rank run. SOME thought must go into recruiting Xavier.

Is the game absolutely punishingly difficult? No. But it does have puzzles. Awakening has no puzzles.

this is the best map of the GBA era

>>712617063
I said your distinction between difficulty and depth is semantics, which it is. You hate Awakening so you say it has no puzzles despite that being outright false. You arbitrarily ignore an entire quarter of the game because of your bias and pretend that Thracia can't be soloed like every single FE.

>Wade keeps gaining skill and luck
Oh yeah, this is the run! Now if only he could get some speed so he doesn't get doubled by like everything. In other news, Shanna got STR on her first two levels, and Wolt is up 1 STR and 2 SPD by level 7, which is... decent for him. I'll grant that he already has C bows, but no killer 'til chapter 8.

>>712617260
The ONLY genuine puzzle in Awakening campaign is Lunatic+ earlygame. I implicitly acknowledged that as a puzzle in saying it "devolves" past the earlygame. And even the Lunatic+ earlygame is more of a janky kind of puzzle, an unfortunate accident, than something really thoughtfully designed.
Besides that, the game is woefully bereft of any intrigue or imaginative design that would merit genuine thoughtfulness from the player whatsoever. I don't see the point in denying this.

Are you saying Lunatic remotely does anything to fix Awakening's bland maps and total lack of interesting objectives?

>>712614434
...how?

Fe1 has annoying reinforcment, but if you keep a steady pace you can block all the forts easily.

>trannius
>good graphics
maybe if you suffer from brain damage

>>712617404
>Awakening's bland maps and total lack of interesting objectives
I would say that Awakening's maps and side objectives are on the same level as the rest of the series. You spazzed out about this and pretended like FE6 is somehow different despite GBA notoriously being the simplest of simple in FE. Conquest and Thracia don't require more thought than Awakening to clear and Awakening post chapter 22 requires more thought than all of Thracia as well.

>>712616878
the warp trannies favorite map

>>712612359
Because Fire Emblem fans are extremely tribalistic. One person likes to grind their favorites, so Awakening and Sacred Stones are their favorites, while Radiant Dawn has objectively shit units with very poor availability so they hate it. Someone likes Genealogy for its story, another hates it for being a walking sim. Someone likes Marcus being useful throughout Blazing but hates that Seth can solo Sacred. Someone likes 3H for being Persona Emblem and hates the rest of the franchise because it isn't 3H (many such cases, sad.) Awakening just so happens to be extremely visible for saving the franchise from the shelf and catches everyone else's strays.
>>712615594
I'm doing it, for the first time granted since I got the DLC before the EShop closed, and getting all the skills on every character while I go (barring DLC classes, I'm not that autistic.)

>>712617573
>warp
baby mode players need not apply

>>712617615
how is that axe wound troon?

>>712617690
FE fans are touchy when you say the games are easy even though they'll say the games are easy themselves because they want to feel special for beating the game.

>>712617559
>I would say that Awakening's maps and side objectives are on the same level as the rest of the series.
Completely fucking silly, which is why you're not confident enough to say it with your chest. Not every opinion is valid.
Now you're trying to characterize me as a spaz for pointing out the most milquetoast of takes - Awakening has bland maps.
There is zero thought required or encouraged in Awakening at any point past 22 on any difficulty. I don't know why you focus on this as a meaningful. Nothing happens in these maps that a Robin solo doesn't rapidly resolve.
Meanwhile try soloing a lategame Thracia map. I mean, you literally can't - it won't even let you deploy just one unit.

The big issue with Awakening is that it punishes you for meeting it halfway. I'm not cynically soloing because I hate the game - I'm doing it because it's best. If you meet any other game halfway, rather than going out of your way to solo, there's at least something to be excited about. Even in Sacred Seth.

Only ironman runs count for you actually beating the game.

Lunatic Awakening makes you mad because unlike the other games it's frustratingly difficult enough that you feel the need to solo. It's true that it's not different from any other FE with regards to being able to solo it. I still think this is a bad thing, the game funnels you into juggernauting and I think it's less fun.

>>712617896
>If you meet any other game halfway, rather than going out of your way to solo, there's at least something to be excited about.
This is your invalid opinion and Awakening has the eugenics simulator and builds to do. Sorry you hate it and are so biased. Also, when enemies cap stats in Awakening post-22 you do in fact have to think again. You can solo Thracia maps easily by having one unit kill all of the enemies and have the other units stand in their starting deployment slots or walk to safety after the one combat unit kills everything. You should learn that your personal biases aren't facts and that your favorite games aren't deep because you made them your personality. There's nothing you can say badly about Awakening that doesn't apply to the rest of the series.
And Awakening absolutely has the same side objectives as the rest of the series, that being opening chests and recruiting side characters while protecting green units

>>712618026
>frustratingly difficult
It's not difficult. At all. That's the problem. I'm never intrigued by the game, I can play the damn thing blindfolded at this point, despite not playing it in years. There's nothing new to be found, there's no exciting new angle. Juggernaut through empty fields.
I can raise 3 pairs of units instead of just Chrobin, it's all the same shit. The game has no design. They literally admitted to dumbing it down for Komuro's stupid ass.

>>712618156
>It's not difficult. At all. That's the problem. I'm never intrigued by the game, I can play the damn thing blindfolded at this point, despite not playing it in years. There's nothing new to be found, there's no exciting new angle. Juggernaut through empty fields.
>I can raise 3 pairs of units instead of just Chrobin, it's all the same shit. The game has no design.
Like every other game in the series.

>>712618136
You're a funny Awakeningbabb, I'll give you that. I've never seen anyone sincerely suggest its lategame is remotely interesting, so that's new. I'm still wondering how capped stats are supposed to trump pair-up Nosferatu and Sol tanking bombs, but you do you, anon.

>>712599034
overrated as fuck and just not fun to play

>>712618206
>you insulted my fave so all of the rest are bad >:((( !!!!!!!!!!!
like a child

>>712618284
>I'm still wondering how capped stats are supposed to trump pair-up Nosferatu and Sol tanking bombs
You said you can remember the entire thing so surely you remember that you can die in 2 hits so missing a single Nos means you'd die to the 20-60 capped enemies you are fighting alone.
Nice job ignoring the rest of the post too because of bias. The child units give Awakening more replayability than Thracia, which is the same game every time. Awakening also has randomized skills unlike Conquest, so I don't see why you keep going back to that one or why you are posting Tellius pics. Whatever though, biased people will remain biased.

>>712618460
>missing
What the shit are you babbling about? You have ridiculous accuracy in the game at all times thanks to busted pair-up mechanics, and Hex + Anathema (Sorc skills) add like 25 hit by themselves. You can also just not engage too many enemies at once...whoa. You can also trivially reload a save even if you get astronomically unlucky and die...whoa!
I genuinely can't fathom what you get out of hyping the Awakening lategame on any difficulty. You're not fooling anyone.
Thracia pic

I've done a Chrobin solo on Awakening Lunatic, it's annoying early then it's trivial until Grima which takes a modicum of thought.

>>712618614
>You can also just not engage too many enemies at once...whoa. You can also trivially reload a save even if you get astronomically unlucky and die...whoa!
Whoa... like every other game in the series!
Also have fun reloading trivially 10 times every chapter because you clearly forgot the hit rates. Not like you'd ever have to in braindead Thracia where enemies are lucky to do any meaningful damage.

>>712618740
You can literally clear Awakening lategame maps in under 2 minutes with Nosferatu @ extremely high consistency. Even if I entertain the notion that there's real risk, since the maps are braindead quick, reloading is not at all like it is in other games, where you can lose up to 30 minutes of progress or more upon reload.
Like why are you denying this? Nigger.

>>712618871
>where you can lose up to 30 minutes of progress or more upon reload.
You wouldn't have to because they're extremely easy. Kaga games aren't difficult and you can't hide behind the fact that nobody's played them in FE threads.

>>712618957
You're just be petulant now

>>712617896
You know you can just kill of almsot everyone to force deploy a unit who is fatigued right?

>>712619015
You've been that way the whole time. You irrationally hate Awakening so you pretend other games can't be soloed, warp skipped, and abused just as hard, or that Awakening somehow has less options despite the second generation, reclassing (optional btw), and builds.

>>712619107
Funny thing is in lunatic + its not really as good to solo with nos because enemiescan have really dirty skill combinaitons.

>>712618957
I played them.
And i think they are a joke.

Someone seriously trying to pretend Awakening Lunatic isn't notorious dogshit design?
Goddamn I hate you coping Lucinafags

>>712619142
Yeah, that's part of the fun

>>712619070
It has nothing to do with fatigue. Thracia has deployment minimums. Even if you want to be a homo trying to make a point, you gain nothing from killing off units in the game. You're just going to softlock and get your juggernaut put to sleep at some point, or otherwise needlessly complicate the game by soloing.
>>712619142
Nostanking works on Lunatic+. The anon you're replying to is really invested in keeping up the lie that Awakening is a complex, thoughtful game but it just isn't. Like 2 or 3 things break answer everything the game throws at you.

>>712619247
>Awakening is a complex, thoughtful game but it just isn't
My original point is that the other games aren't any more complex or thoughtful. You won't concede this so I've shown all of L+'s difficulties which you won't face in other games due to their simplicity.

>>712597534 (OP)
Is it worth playing? I played a bit of disgaea and final fantasy tactics, here and there.

>>712619247
No you dont.
The minimum just lowers to the point where you can still play the map if you have fewer units than the minimum.
Again.
Soloing with thracia is a cakewalk.

>>712619247
Vantage+ with luna+ is gonna be hard to nostank.
Most of you guys just used dlc to cheese the game.

>>712619336
I'm not going to concede it because you're wrong, you rat faggot. There is no further room for debate here. You're just as bad as the retards who say Conquest or Engage have writing as good as any game in the series. Actually, I don't even see a Conquestfag crazy enough to claim that. You're a special kind of moron.

>>712619356
Yes. Play it.

>>712619357
What are you not getting here? You're required to deploy a minimum of units in each Thracia map. The fact that you can kill off units does not change this. Are you disagreeing with this incontrovertible fact of reality now? Has it gotten that bad with you?

>>712619447
If you ignore the entirety of options Awakening gives you and only play it one way, then do the exact opposite for every other game, then pretend like you aren't playing the same game every time (unlike Awakening's L+), and ignore all of Awakening's challenges (because they don't count or whatever), then uh maybe Thracia is deep because of chests or something

>>712619448
She drowns her boss with those armpits to get hired.
Thats how she got a job before greil showed up

>>712619521
if all your units are dead you can start a map with less than the minimum. you don't get softlocked until the final chapter where you need 6 units to step on switches

>>712619521
>Kill of units so the minimuk deployment lowers itself to the point where you can still play
You didnt play thracia if you dont understand this simple mechanic.

>>712619448
>Yes. Play it.
Okay. But I better not be disappointed, anon.

Let's not forget that this guy tried to say that a GBA game was complex.

>>712619592
>you don't get softlocked until the final chapter where you need 6 units to step on switches
So you can't fucking solo the game!! You gain nothing by killing off units, in the normal course of play you are REQUIRED to deploy more than one unit, and to attempt to solo means you are actively making the game more difficult for yourself, for no gain.

>>712619447
>You're just as bad as the retards who say Conquest or Engage have writing as good as any game in the series.
Conquest's writing is as good as FE7's in some places.

My favourite strategies involve getting softlocked in the final chapter

>>712619636
It's a good starting point to FE. Remember the fast forward feature in your emulator for moments of down time.

>>712619713
Mine involve hand axes on forests

>>712619689
So awakening isnt a solofest because chrom is paried up with robin?

>>712619784
Is this the best you've got? You're this feeble, really?
It's straight up bad faith, with the Awakeningfag, isn't it?

>>712619734
Will do. Every JRPG I play, I speed that shit up 3x and make the xp multiplier 4x. Spares me the tedium and grinding. Thank god for emulators.

>>712619835
>Gets btfoed by his own logic
>NOOOOO YOURS DOESNT COUNTY REEEE

>>712619835
>It's straight up bad faith
>>712619403
You ignored this one chief

>>712619882
I have never used DLC to beat L+ in the two times I beat it. Happy?
You just don't know what you're talking about, if you're claiming Nos doesn't shit-stomp every difficulty. It's that simple.

>>712619864
You'll like FE then, because it's an srpg without grinding. You'll just want to fast forward through the slow animations when it's the computer's turn to move the enemy units on the map.

>>712619962
Vantage+ & Luna+ was what you ignored. You don't know what you're talking about if you think Thracia is somehow harder because at least Awakening enemies can kill you.

>>712619962
Sure you did pal.
Might show off your save then?

>>712620030
Damn awakenin is just nosspam...anyway nanna wrath earthsword!

>>712620040
>blah blah blah this skill blah
It doesn't matter, shit for brains. It doesn't win. If I even have a reason to fear it, I'll kill it on player phase. There's no thought that goes into it. Nostaking is god tier. It's hilarious to me that Awakening fans are denying this in 2025, in order to grind an axe. Pure wishful thinking.

Remember, armor knights le always bad.

>>712619403
Lunatic+ is harder to Nostank your way through for sure, you might have to reset on some configurations and it's hard to tell that at a glance. Lunatic is easy though.

>>712620082
>nanna wrath earthsword
Sorry that's optional so not allowed. I use Leif to kill everyone every time with light brand and every booster. Thracia just doesn't want me to meet it half way you know?

>>712620101
You do realize that youre probaly surrounded by stat inflated slog right?
Youre not gonna Player phase 1 round your way through that.
And if you leave low health enemeis thatn nos cant really heal you a whole lot cant you?

>>712620008
>You'll just want to fast forward through the slow animations when it's the computer's turn to move the enemy units on the map.

Got it. I'm downloading it now. Thanks fren

>>712620149
Isnt nos rarely availbie in early game tho?
Its only buyable in midgame if i remember corectly.

>>712620145
>if Counter, kill on player's phase
>if Luna+, kill on player's phase
super hard to tell at a glance
>>712620175
Listen, maybe you're retarded and can't figure out how to work the most broken weapon in the series, but I actually did this, so I can confirm it works

>>712620182
STFU shitty female.
Youre to retarded to even play this franchise.
Suck my cock instead.

>>712620232
We generously allowed the Thracia fan to skip Awakening's entire early game because he's too stupid to not guidefag it, but yes, you can't get Nos early without luck.

>>712620259
I do consider having to check every enemy on the map more than a glance.

>>712620283
Kys /feg/got

>>712620259
You didnt do shit.
You cant even show of your save.
>Player phases counter
Retardkun

tbqh you can solo thracia pretty easily as long as you deploy a few extra units to restore status or disable the enemy status staff users and you use someone to protect the objective in that defend+escape map. after you grind leif to lvl20 he should be able to kill bosses. if you get callion to talk to selphina you get an elite sword, then leif can probably tank the master weapon bosses until they break their weapons

>>712620330
Females like you are made to breed with us anyway.
Who left you out of a bedroom anyway?

>>712620309
>see 5 units clumped together
>want to kill them on enemy phase
>do they have Counter?
>hover over them in 3 seconds to verify no
>end turn
wew this is intense

>>712620393
Great...have fun getting wrecked cause now youre getting ephased by Aegis+ luna+ guys who barely take damage. So you cant heal.
And they have luna + to bea your ass.

Is there any FE with exp all effects?
I really like the per-level puzzle side of it, but I really hate the
>you can't do level 15 because you didn't level up your X unit enough in the last 5 levels
side of it.

>>712620393
multiple hawkeye+ counter/luna+ enemies
guess i'll just reset the map whoa!
thinks that would never happen in thracia (resetting)

>>712620347
>I CAN ONE ROUND EVERYTING
If nigga played awakening he would have known of Pavise+ and Aegis+

>>712620356
This whole discussion has been derailed by one dumb motherfucker, and now his sip if he's not samefagging. This was never about whether you CAN solo a game or not. You can more or less solo large portions of every FE.

The conversation was about how designed FE is - the puzzles they present. You have a subhuman arguing there's literally no difference in the complexity or depth between Awakening and these games. I'm not sure a genuine FE fan should readily take up that position. Do you seriously believe there's no difference between Conquest's and Awakening's? You can solo a lot of Conquest too.

>>712620497
3H has adjutants, which is the closest to exp all, but no not really.
Tellius has battle XP which I guess is it

>>712620596
Do any have like, a place to grind between levels or anything?
The only one I've played is Symphony of War (which I fucking loved), which had the arena.

>Combat in the middle of an ocean
Holy shit i found the jesus of tellius!

>>712620596
That side of it doesn't exist, you can beat all the games with 0% growths, mostly reliably outside of a few sticking points mostly across various early-games before options are available to mitigate them.

>>712620497
>>712620676
Meant for

>>712620664
Why ae you niggers help thsi tourist bitch?
You guys are just some simping faggots.

>>712620664
>a place to grind between levels or anything?
FE8 does naturally. Awakening, Fates, 3H, SoV, and Engage have skirmishes. Awakening, Fates, and SoV also have DLC grind maps.

>>712620725
>want to get into the FE genre
>am extremely new to the genre so therefore extremely bad at it
>want some advice to make things easier on myself
What's the problem?

>>712620676
I guess? As I said I'm new and terrible at this, so that's not realistic for me.

>>712620759
Grand, I'll probably start on those. Any recommendations?

>>712620823
My point is you probably always have the tools available to beat the map at any given time, if you haven't lost units. Nothing wrong with starting with an easy game like Sacred Stones that also lets you grind freely, though.

>>712620823
Play Awakening of course! Then Fates Birthright, then Fates Conquest, then SoV, then 3H, then Engage, then FE8, then Fates Rev. Or start with 3H if you like Persona-type calendar managers. Start with FE8 if you want something simple to start off with but I wouldn't personally recommend it.

>>712620553
Of course there's a difference. While the complexity of Conquest is far superior to a basic game like Thracia, it still has the usual FE shortcomings of giving the player many easy ways to reach juggernaut status, and they all work every single time you play the game. On the other hand, Awakening is enormously complex as the random enemy skills cause you to devise an entirely new strategy each time. In one playthrough you might be kiting an enemy around the map, on another playthrough you might determine it's more efficient to hold defensive terrain as you endure the enemy onslaught. Perhaps you like this series for the story or characters, but for a true gameplaychad the only good game is Awakening.

Welp, I fucked up and it's back to the beginning again. Sure hope I get better levels this time.

>>712620946
>probably
That's the word that worries me.
When you're really terrible at this, you might well get yourself into a situation where it's actually impossible, but don't know it, and spend hours and hours frustrated before restarting the entire game.
That's what I'd like to avoid, the probably.

>>712620970
Thank you!

>>712620664
Don't grind. You're actively ruining your own enjoyment.

This faggot seriously refuses to use Nosferatu and Sol and thinks that can change what the game is. But you can never change what the game is. Sorry.

>>712621154
light brand lief
siegfriend xander

>>712621193
>siegfriend
cute

And again, it comes down to the maps. Awakening doesn't have an answer to Nosferatu, not at any point. It has nothing outside of the solo. It's a wasteland, removed from the solo. Conquest and Thracia have something outside of the solo.
To deny this distinction is to deny your gender.

>>712621193
Haar and Hand Axe
Marth and Falchion (would beat every single other FE character in a 1v1 in FE1)
Holsety in Gen 1 and 2

>>712621262
More subjective, biased nonsense. All FEs have the same doors and chests to open.

>>712620972
>While the complexity of Conquest is far superior to a basic game like Thracia
Thracia is a much better game though, like it's not even close.

>>712621327
Do you understand what an "incentive" is? I want a single serious answer out of you. Are you capable of it?

>>712599632
Who the fuck started on Path of Radiance.

>>712621373
>Inciting; encouraging or moving; rousing to action; stimulative.
For me that would be the skill building and second generation as well as the enemies that could actually kill me, but I can understand how a simplistic thraciafag wouldn't like those incentives.

>>712621338
Why? Because of the story where you accomplish absolutely nothing and fight a generic dark mage at the end?

>>712621475
Motivation is key, yes. If you personally find it fun to build super soldier babies, okay - I have done challenge runs too. I used to do challenge runs of Awakening Lunatic, believe it or not. But here's the reality. There's no sensible reason to do any of that, there's no incentive. It's objectively better to default to the most winning solution: Chrobin stomp.
Even adding more units doesn't fundamentally change the character of the solo. You are always soloing Awakening, just with more optional pairs of uber units. It sounds funny but think about it. There is no design in the game.

What's a dracoshield do for you in Awakening? What's 10k extra gold do? Why do you even need anything except 1-2 range weapons and heal mechanic? This is the game's most stable state.

You will pretend not to understand how this is fundamentally different from Xander being immediately shit with terrible hit rates in the next map after he joins.

>>712599107
The Baudimon wank really annoys me but I don't have a reasonable argument for why, because it's only about on par with the usual amount of main lord wank in a Fire Emblem, but somehow it annoys me much more on a prepromoted middle aged guy than on a bright eyed teenager

>>712621713
>here's no sensible reason to do any of that
it's called fun, next.

>>712621713
>runs of Awakening Lunatic
>not lunatic+
lol lmao

>NOOOOO FE9 MIA IS SO BAD SHE HAS NO STR
Yet she one rounds maniac mode enemies huh?!

>>712621769
Acknowledged. I can do all sorts of artificial challenge runs to spice up any game. Hey, Checkers is probably more exciting if you add the Russian roulette clause. It doesn't fix the game's poor design, or rather lack thereof. You're shilling for a game whose designers admitted to dumbing down it for the woman who also gave it its terrible writing. It should be embarrassing.
>>712621847
Lunatic+ earlygame is AIDS. Very poorly designed and requires you to literally grind to make it somewhat consistent. You're not making a very compelling argument for its design.

>>712621262
>Aegis+, Vantage+, Counter+ and Luna+
>NOOOO DOESNT COUNTY!!!

>>712621986
Doesn't stop it. Come back to reality.

>>712621338
>Equips pugi and presses end turn

>>712621927
Based Mia enjoyer

>>712621950
>It doesn't fix the game's poor design, or rather lack thereof
Subjective invalid opinion.
>You're shilling for a game whose designers admitted to dumbing down it for the woman who also gave it its terrible writing.
What does this say about all the other games you mentioned, which have LESS tactical depth? It's barely even possible to die in Thracia or FE6.

>>712622032
>equips Siegfried and presses end turn

>>712622129
Do you even play somewhat Awakening somewhat regularly, on Lunatic+ no less, or are you just interested in arguing for the sake of it? I find it hard to believe any can be this pigheaded, or stupid. I'm 100% serious right now.

>>712619864
>Using Kyle Hyde, whose games are about slowing down and enjoying what you have in front of you slowly
Do zoomers even understand what they do?

>>712621950
>poorly designed
No, it's just too hard for you. Stick to babby games like Thracia 776.
Speaking of which, Awakening is kino by default whereas everyone tries to add a whole bunch of artificial challenges in Thracia (ranked runs etc) in hopes of spicing it up. And even then it falls short.

>>712622271
you can stop samefagging now
answer my question >>712622213

>>712622213
Funny, that's how I feel about you. How can you say that the one game that actually has variations (which you forgot about despite claiming to be able to beat it blindfolded) and more gameplay options (with skills and eugenics) has the least depth? And yes, I do play awakening on L+.

People are always arguing about Fire Emblem difficulties but I honestly prefer it when the game isn't very hard. H5s or Lunatic Reverses are only interesting once. A lot of the time they boil down to one or two correct strategies on how to approach the game, where anything else is totally unreliable and leaves you deeply at the mercy of RNG. A lot of the appeal for Fire Emblem to me is a very basic foundation combined with a very personalized experience.

Sacred Stones is one of the most piss baby easy experiences possible in the franchise and it's still my favourite game to replay because you can make basically anything work in that game no matter how silly it is.

>>712622345
I almost wonder if you're a streamer I've seen who's obsessed with this shitty game.
Awakening has a eugenics metagame, and there's complexity in it. The problem is in how disjoint it and at odds it is with the actual game, the campaign. You're clearly expected to fucking grind to get a full roster of units, and it's just not worth the effort when a Chrobin solo defeats everything, even your vaunted Lunatic+ (after Chapter 22!).
At best you throw in another Sol tank around midgame, which is spiritually still a solo. I'm glad you found a way to enjoy the worst gameplay-game in the series but the game is very poorly balanced and everyone agrees on this, so whatever.

>>712622529
>and it's just not worth the effort when a Chrobin solo defeats everything, even your vaunted Lunatic+
No different than any other FE, in fact it's more difficult because at least you can die.
>the game is very poorly balanced and everyone agrees on this, so whatever.
Subjective opinions again

It's telling that the eternal Awakeningfag must in bitter envy drag down the series to his wretched level
The Thraciafag, the Conquest fag seeks to raise the standard

>>712622529
See this is the problem with you FE plebes. You need the developer to lay out a series of puzzles and take delight in putting the square peg in the square hole. Awakening is far more like Disgaea in that it allows a sophisticated player to make their own fun.

Why does it always come back to dogshit like Disgaea when you poke one of these anti FE freaks

>>712622659
>The Thraciafag, the Conquest fag seeks to raise the standard
Insane cope. We've seen what your players are like. They do anything but.

>Awakeningfag praising Disgaea's design, and shitting on a curated experience
oh this is VERY revealing
things are making sense now

>>712622738
It's RPGfaggotry. No two ways about it. These guys should be playing Final Fantasy, not Fire Emblem. It's why they privately loathe the games, they're constantly at odds with them.

>>712622753
It told me everything I needed to know. Disgaea's alright with no grind, but I can't imagine praising NIS' RPGs for their mechanics with a straight face.

>>712622819
>>712622753
Please explain the "strategy" part of a game where none of the enemies pose a threat to you. I'm glad you have a new bogeyman to deflect from your lack of arguments though.

Grindfags and not like Fire Emblem, name a more iconic duo

>>712622970
Schizos and making things up

>>712597850
I did.

>>712621480
Story is a high point in how down in the dirt it feels. There is none of the continent crossing glory of other games. You are a complete nothingburger going up against forces that can and will crush you into the dirt if they tried.

FE and schizos

>>712622738
>>712622753
>>712622819
>>712622849
Filtered.

I stard to believe that she is better then stefan.

>>712624810
The only thing stefan is better is weapon rank and str.

>>712622970
My dick and Lucina.

I like to use the mostly unobtainable weapons (Rexflame, Rexaura, Rexcalibur, Urvan, Wishblade) by buying some iron swords and changing them through the debug menu. It bothers me that those items went unused/only available in the last map.

Ashnard would be fixed if S rank weapons couuld harm blessed armor.
Fe9 final boss is close to perfect

>>712624810

Stefan and Zihark have better strength and need less babying so they end up being more useful but I still use Mia since she is cute, which is probably the most common opinion here.

>>712625886
That wouldn't make much of a difference considering how few S rank/Legendary weapons Tellius has. The only viable one you could use is Vague Katti. Double Bow is Sniper only, so Rolf or Shinon who are both bad and Rexbolt might be out by virtue of PoR's abysmal WEXP gain, Ilyana might not even be at S by endgame. Rexaura would work if Rhys wouldn't fucking die on counterattack and you'll probably need him around to use the Ashera Staff.
DLATMOL did it the Ashnard fight but better.

>>712626726
Zihark is worse cause a normally trained mia ends up having mroe spd.
And really, spd is the only reason you would use that class line.

>>712626794
You have all game to get rexbolt
How are you getting S rank swords but not S rank in the best magic type?
Wishbabe coud be dropable instead of the speedwing after killing bryce which would make it a really nice incentive to rush.

>>712626920
tummy sex

>>712626920
Wayu

>>712627103
Her mission is to kep the troops moral high

Maybe I should finish Path of Radiance when I have the time.

>>712627103
>>712627035

>>712626805
Where are you getting your information? Zihark joins with about the same speed as Mia at level 10 and has the same speed growth. He's also a bit bulkier and has a better personal skill.

>>712627489
Mist's map model has delicious thighs

>>712627740
Mia is usually higher then at 10 if youre good enough.
I had mine at level 12.

>>712627740
Youre forgetting the extr growth she can get before reaching zihark if you give her a band.
That can make her slightly better by the time zihark joins.

>>712627103
How did they settle on "Mia" as a translation of this?

>>712618731
ooo looks fun

>>712629958
No similarly sounding western name so it's a concession I guess

My cousin used FE4 as a tutorial on how to pirate and patch SNES games. I beat FE4 with a shoddy translation patch as an 8 year old losing only Jamuka and Azel. There is something deeply concerning about adults struggling with Fire Emblem.

>>712630337
That's fair. I just always wondered why it became such a meme. Does Wayu mean anything in Japanese or is it just a silly name?

Marriage with Marianne!

>>712631797
it means 'best girl' in nip

Schizo status?

>>712597850
I did, too.

I wanted more bird girls.

>>712631797
Isn’t it that “Bing Bing Wahoo”(mocking Mario games) turns into “Bing Bing Wayu” because they sound similar? Or was there another Wayu meme I’m unaware of?

>>712632630
I feel like I’ve never seen you so low here. You’re usually always near the top of the thread.

>>712599632
You're right. I started on PoR. It got me into the GBA games and even a NES gane. Then I got Radiant Dawn and stopped there. PoR + RD is a great duo.

>>712600762
This.

They need to bring back triangle attack in next entry

>>712597534 (OP)
The final boss gimmick is insanely retarded for this kind of game

>>712634427
lol filtered

>>712634456
>box the boss in one spot with your units that can't kill him
>let Ike kill him
Radiant Dawn did it way better where Ike just needs to land the killing blow

>>712634456
>force players to have ike solo ashnard
>now do it again except he's barely stronger than before lmao
It's not very interesting

>why is engage maddening a good difficulty
Having played the highest difficulty in all FEs I can say with confidence that it gets it right because it feels like you’re playing something as hard as Conquest Lunatic without being forced into doing specific things like creating juggernaut+backpack units.
The only thing you’re forced to do in Maddening Engage is train 14 units at most, nothing more nothing less and even then you’re forced to feed some exp to units you MIGHT only use early on like Etie, Boucheron, Chloe, Louis, Clanne, Celine, Alfred or Vander. Before you go nuclear thinking I am saying Chloe isn’t worth using, notice what the word “might” implies.
The other thing I like is that Growth units are completely viable to use an on par with pre promotes like Kagetsu and Pandreo thanks to things like Mercurius and Micaiah.
Engage is just a very well-balanced game with a lot of gameplay and build varieties which is rare for a game that actually tries to be well balanced
>b-but the actual character is the emblem
This is a bit dishonest because its not entirely true, using an emblem like marth on a mage character is not gonna have the same effect as using them on a character they properly synergize with like Kagetsu, however, I don’t think theres anything wrong with emblems coming with preset skill sets and you only being able to equip 2 skills at once. It actually makes for more varied build varieties than having 5 skill slots because the latter means you will use almost the same skills on everyone. Not being tied to reclassing is also great cause you don’t have to choose between skills and stat growth like in conquest or awakening. Engage simply uses something similar to PoR and RDs skill system but more refined and limited (since SP is limited per playthrough even if you use the well, though using the well gives you a lot of leftover SP which is good if you change your mind on a character skill or two mid-playthrough)

>>712634456
It's just done in the worst way possible. I don't know how they messed it up either, the Marth games both did that kind of bossfight better
>Gharnef can only be defeated by Starlight, otherwise you have to outmaneuver him and lose out on the ever powerful Falchion
>Hardin can only be harmed if the character has the Light Sphere in his inventory, so you have to trade it around if you want to fight him with several characters

>>712634427
What, you don't like watching Ike chip the boss for several turns rolling for procs?

>>712612857
>Chrom was so horny he had to smash this on the battlefield and get her knocked up
What an animal

>>712633431
I was in the other thread.

>>712597697
because it's the only good game in the series
>t. only FE i've finished and not dropped after chapter 9

>>712633335
Present

>>712614794
Are we seriously still pushing the muh covid bump cope for 3H's sales?

>>712633335
We’re all schizos here

>>712614794
>>712637698
The bulk of 3H’s sales happened more than half a year before the pandemic. And it just kept going.

>>712637982
It also kept selling even after the pandemic ended. I believe late 2022 was when we got the 4 mil milestone.

Tanith is the best unit in PoR. Prove me wrong.
>Pro tip: you can't

>>712635421
Good post bro, I agree 100%. The emblems aren't really what makes the unit, it's just that part of building an Engage team is deciding who will get which emblems and tailoring them accordingly.

>>712638434
The best? Unlikely
Top 5? Guaranteed

Faraway Holy Land is the comfiest map theme, at least since Awakening's Conquest

Corrin, no wait, she's evil!

>>712639163
>Prepromote flier with great stats in the game with super canto
>Has great weapon ranks
>Is basically the only non meme option who can use the magic weapons effectively
>Reinforce is by far the best skill in the game
No one compares

>>712639214

>>712639849
All true but you have to account for availability. She's amazing but she's only available for the last 1/3 of the game.

>>712605081
your mom is the worst entry in the series of women

>>712640126
This thread's not even dead yet, retard

>>712638434
Her stats are meh and her skill is a crutch for poor positioning that steals your exp.

>>712640751
>Complaining about lost exp
>In PoR
The game gives you so much that it's difficult not to reach 20/20 on your characters kek

>>712640265
Nah, PoR's early game is piss easy, and Tanith joins as better than your army when you first get her. Unless you want to deduce points for her not breaking the game even earlier than she does, then she deserves to be treated as the best unit.

>>712640751
>steals your exp
In the grand scheme of things, the amount of exp they could've "stolen" really don't matter. Like maybe they can get 3 level ups worth throughout the whole game. Even then that's like what, +1 to every stat on average?

>>712641318
>Unless you want to deduce points for her not breaking the game even earlier than she does
Yeah I do. Because units like Titania, Marcia and Jill are breaking the game much sooner even if it is piss easy they're still around to make it piss easier.

>>712599161
>The game was criticized back then for feeling incomplete
I believe its own creator said it was only 70% finished. Pretty sure they just shoved it out before it got too late in the consoles life, didnt want another thracia situation

im surprised anyone on this board likes this game and doesn't have a stroke calling the story woke. I know yall will though with the NSO rerelease.

>>712605081
>How is that the case considering RD is arguably the worst entry in the series?
This casual didn't play Gaiden.

>not developed by Kaga
Fake Fire Emblem

>>712599161
What the fuck are you talking about? RD made PoR worse in hindsight, since it actively made the story worse and followed up poorly on the gameplay idead brought in with PoR.

>>712642612
Gaiden>RD

>>712615594
>after completing tens of runs of it.
Why would you do this to yourself.

>>712643178
No

>>712643276
if you beat lunatic+ less than 10 times your opinion is invalid
anon wanted to be the one awakening hater with a valid opinion

If you haven't beat each FE game exactly 776 times each, you are not a true FE fan

>>712621745
>middle aged
He's in his 20s actually.

>>712597697
was dimitri a retard? he goes to war out of pure emotion, not greater political purpose like claude and edelgard do. dimitri seems like a child whose sense of morality never evolves beyond >war bad

>>712633382
Why has no one asked AI CHAD for some Vika?
Maybe not enough art? Then again he did this and she had no other art.

>>712638434
>dies or has to steal the full guard from jill
>even without that she has the bulk of an unpromoted fighter.
trash.

>>712642525
We have already shat on it for being woke like muh racism, explicitly gay like Heather and troon like that furry.
4chan is okay with faggot shit if it features a twink so they like Soren.

>clanne sucks
Have you ever considered what having a mage knight pandreo who could use physical swords would be like?
Thats Clanne.

Push
the
boulders

>>712645572
>Why has no one asked AI CHAD for some Vika?
heh

>>712645847
you can actually push the PoR chapter 25 boulders yourself if you go up one side and leave the other side with unpushed boulders

>>712645572
>brown office lady with blue lipstick
Heroes has better girls, but I'd like to see her get a summer alt someday.

>>712645847

You think Micaiah is a good character?

>>712645761
>features a twink so they like Soren
that explains it

>>712646770
>mary sue who reality contorts around
No.

>>712646770
I think she should stay away from the Jean and the playground.

>>712646770
she's a groomer pedo hag

>>712646770
I think you are retarded like her

>>712646770
where's her penis

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4I67IeAAjXE
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>>712648139

>>712648342
Since you insist, here are more FE tips and Tricks for expert FE play!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmtH13o9KMY

>>712648493
tbf some anons here need to check enemy ranges

The only FE trick I didn't learn organically was the trade equip one.

>>712648139
>>712648493
send these to Mangs

>>712646003
She has a massive chest and is evil. There is usually a large chested evil OC or two that gets a summer alt the next year, so it is a toss up between her, hodr, and baldr, and the latter two can be a duo.

>>712648026
But I hate her too!

>>712598436
FE9 outside Maniac Mode is a contender for easiest in the franchise.
FE7 is significantly harder whle being a fairly easy game itself.
FE6 is much harder than both.

>>712598560
>without falling into shitty anime gimmicks
Mia is as flat a gimmick character as the worst offenders in later games, and she's one of the most popular characters in PoR.
Path has plenty of others like her too.

>>712648423
>Gets his ass saved by Sanaki right here but is too dumb to realize without being told
>Later barges in on the empress and holy apostle, right past her holy guard, not even explaining himself
>begins to try and demand information like an ass
Ike is lucky Sigrun is incompetent both as a holy guard and as a protective mother figure, or he's be dead.
He's even luckier that Sanaki wants him.