Thread 712621096

>bombastic showmen
>in red jackets with twin coattails, black pants, and dress shoes
>with big cartoony white gloves
>and giant object heads that focus on an exaggerated facial feature
>are outwardly friendly and energetic as show hosts
>but are secretly antagonistic and villainous
>and 3D tumblr sexymen animated in wacky cartoony ways
>that trap their contestants in games

How does he keep getting away with it?

Hey, you're using the exact same wording I used when I explained why this is actually just a normal and rational albeit not very creative trope

Lol anon, you wanna talk plagiarism? Don't plagiarize my posts, fagyo

>>712621682
ooooooh op caught redhanded

>>712621096 (OP)
The left looks like it's made for the most insufferable people on the planet
The right is Tenna, and Tenna is amazing

>>712622020
>the most insufferable people on the planet
You're so close to getting it

Tenna is actually inspired by TV Dinnah from Little King Story

>>712621682
OP is this true? Very naughty

>>712621682
Absolutely humiliated OP

>>712621682
Big oof

>>712621682
Name 10 other examples with this many similarities

>>712621682
based hank

>>712623350
kek usually people ask for 3 or 5, you know you're really reaching when you demand 10 because you're purely relying on the fact that anon doesn't know enough games or cartoons to have such tropes in them

>>712621096 (OP)
I cant believe how lucky Toby Fox was with creating Undertale and now Deltarune.

>>712623885
If it's such a generic trope 10 examples would be a breeze, but I'm seeing you haven't offered up even one

>>712621096 (OP)
Tenna was based off of all the fan attempts at guessing what Mike would be like.
Or I guess, Tenna's character was so predictable that everyone already knew he'd be there and was probably developed at the same time as Spamton's.

>>712622020
Left looks like a Plok character.

>>712621096 (OP)
Pomni is cute and I would fuck her

>>712621096 (OP)
also alex rochon did fandubs of spamton before voicing Caine

>>712621096 (OP)
Tenna is just a gameshow host, which by design is kind of the second generation of circus ringmaster to begin with. The overlap is expected, not plagiaristic.

Gooseworx is kind of a dumb tranny who really really wants his underage audience to think his stuff is deep psychological horror inspired by I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream even though he clearly doesn't understand that story.

>>712625172
nobody thinks it's "deep psychological horror" you idiot it's just grim comedy

>>712622484
This
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdDI7srbVqU

>>712625221
That's why I said
>who really really wants his underage audience to think

>>712621096 (OP)
Evil circus ringleader is an incredibly common aesthetic anon.

>>712625359
It's clearly not just the aesthetic though

>>712621682
I can't believe is such a plagiarist

>>712625289
Holy shit tennas theme is a total ripoff

>>712625289
>perpetuates the lie that Toby got Moon localized
This is why people hate Tobyfags

>712621682
>I described plagiarism accurately but then at the end said that's what makes it NOT plagiarism how about that checkmate

Does anyone actually like the game show bits in Undertale and Deltarune? First Metaton then this guy, feels like completely braindead filler

>>712627325
Tenna was a 10/10
Mettaton was only funny because of the callback to the color tile puzzle

>>712627325
Death report was kino

Is Ralsei scared of (you) or wants to trust (you) on Normal route?
Can someone post Ralsei looking directly at you when Susie says Kris "made her" wear the ribbon?

>>712627325
I hate them with passion. Dropped chapter 3 and went straight to chapter 4 because of how annoying it was.

>>712621096 (OP)
Tenna was just literally what everyone expected from the start. The only surprising thing about the design is the pointy nose, which I feel makes him too reminiscent of Spamton, which is an issue when there already feels like overlap between the two boss character concepts.

>>712624445
It's such a generic trope that if you can pull 10 answers out of your ass then you've got an eidetic memory.

>>712629473
This is an open book exam

>>712624872
The clussy handussy

>>712621682
OP's getting written a prescription for HRT ASAP after that castration humiliation

>>712631748
Not even a nugina will save this one

>>712621682
abso-fucking-lutely BLOWN OUT

>>712631748
>Average /v/ mindset

>>712621096 (OP)
Caine isn't secretly villainous he's just a moron

I still find it wild dobsonites are working for Night Inc.

why do 4channoids hate reddit flavored cringe but love tumblr flavored cringe

>>712635590
4chan was taken over by tumblies

>>712635590
There was a tumblr exodus

>>712635590
Femanons.

>>712621096 (OP)
Don't forget, the VA for Caine got the part for his Spamton dub that blew up thanks to that fan animation.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72tHaw7Hxgs

>>712621096 (OP)
Oh cool, tranny general, aren't there like 3 of these already

>>712626182
Have you heard the music in the secret game part? it's like Link's Awakening Face Shrine theme from Temu

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SadisticGameShow
OP you need to go outside and play before you're assigned an 8+ hour job with a 2+ hour commute that makes you see not a speck of daylight or fresh air for 5/7th of the week.
>>712630230
"Sadistic mascot game show host with ulterior motives" is the plot of the most popular VN to reach the west (Danganronpa) for one. The trope itself was much bigger in the 2000s when people actually watched TV.
If you want to stretch it, you could even say Mr. Beast is a real life example of this.

>>712636220
How many of them look like the OP description?

>>712636306
"Cartoon PT Barnum" isn't exactly that original of a design, either.

>>712636387
>more reductionism
I see you're unable to cope with the blatant plagiarism

>>712636306
The Helvetica webcomic reference with Sans and Papyrus is more blatant.

>>712621096 (OP)
>but are secretly antagonistic and villainous
Only the fan comics, songs and other shit interpret Caine that way. He's the antagonist, sure, but he's not antagonistic. He has no evil ulterior motives, malice, or that "I only hurt you for your own good" thing. He just has no self-awareness or empathy, which results in the protagonists getting hurt. He's less of a jailer and more of a caretaker who thinks he's doing a great job when he isn't.

>>712636605
Plagiarism is when you copy something more than 90% exact not when you make a character inspired by another. Otherwise Link and Donkey Kong would be forcefully removed from Nintendo's canon.

>>712621682
fpbp

>>712636931
Wasn't there a webcomic character the middle guy was ripped off from, with the outfit and the color bar teeth?

>>712636931
>more dobsonite artists

>>712636931
Whyis this even a thing?

>>712636931
Saw some thumbnail compare Tenna with the thing in the middle and even from a single glance i can tell that this character is extremely obnoxious and unfunny

>>712621682
Bank Bill

>>712636926
This is copied more than 90% though

>>712625359
Caine isn't really evil from my limited knowledge of digital circus, just very misguided.

>>712636931
There has to be some scientific explanation to why people are drawn to create TV head characters wearing suits, because it seems like a fucking rite of passage thing in any sort of creative sphere.

>>712635590
>Wasn't there for the great raid of Tumblr that ended in both websites just drawing fanart of their respective websites personified fucking each other
You had to be there or you wouldn't get it

I really want to fuck Tenna hes so pathetic it's cute

Every time you see these arguments where people argue about who copied who but their only examples are things with ten billion views or sold copies you KNOW you're watching a schoolyard fight amongst children who have literally 0 frame of reference for anything outside "the current hotness"

>>712628303
Wants to trust you, he looks as us in chapter 2 constantly and a lot of his choices are clearly done to help us rather than Kris
If one is on the weird route you can see him having doubts and seemingly expecting you to defy the prophecy by doing something much worse, so I assume that if one doesn't abort the weird route we'll need to fight him.

>>712640134
it's just anthro-tv = show host

I'm tired of acting like Tenna and Spamton aren't the same character...

>>712639267
Look at Link OOT and Peter Pan

>>712631505
sauce please?

>>712641365
Are you really such an aspie that of all the porn online that's what you're going to jerk it to

>>712641487
so what's the sauce? didn't really ask what you thought about me

>>712641365
Sultryscribz, self-uploads on rule34.xxx
>>712641487
Don't bully :(

>>712621096 (OP)
Tenna has a certain subtlety to his design, I think it's the lack of eyes + his nose not being part of the screen that makes him stand out. It's CLOSE to being nutumblr hazbin shit but it's just different enough to work.

>>712641487
good job bullying these freaks
>>712641562
>>712641683
i'll mail you a pocket pussy if you shut up

>>712641562
If you're already on this level you won't listen, and you'll only get defensive and angry at anyone trying to reason with you. Just -consider- having a tiny shred of self respect and stop thinking you have no control over your gooning. Who's really in charge? You, or your aspie cock?

qrd on what the hell is a sexy tumblr man.

>>712641793
look at all those words, bro i got the sauce i don't care, stop yappin

>>712641908
>>712641793

>>712641802
A "Tumblr Sexyman" refers to fictional characters, usually male, who gain massive popularity on Tumblr and similar platforms for being quirky, villainous, eccentric, or unusual, and are often romanticized by fandom communities. Common traits include slim builds, sharp dressing styles, morally ambiguous or villainous personalities, and unconventional attractiveness. Examples include characters like the Once-ler (*The Lorax*), Sans (*Undertale*), and Bill Cipher (*Gravity Falls*).

>>712621096 (OP)
Tenna is a true BIG SHOT unlike internet salesmen

>>712621682
OP raped and gaped once again

>>712621682
hayzeus christo

>>712641725
His unique artstyle compared to the rest of the game plus his animations also make him stand out. Beyond the design, the fact that he's a genuinely good guy and in a sense, part of the dreemur family and had close connections to the main character and kept accidentally airing out his dirty laundry and bringing up painful memories, and the fact that the divorce even fucked the tv up all gives him some depth and comedic moments beyond being a wacky antagonist without veering far into obligatory tragic backstory territory

>>712642113
Stop replying to yourself

>>712621682
Heh, gottem

>>712621682
OP btfo

>>712643279
>>712643417
see >>712643205

>>712636931
>Tenna ends up mogging all of these designs
Based Toby

>>712643458
hello OP

>>712631842
F A C T
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>>712643771
Hello anon No.712621682

>>712640134
Game show hosts tend to dress nice and the TV head is a very lazy visual connection

>>712640769
That's the point, Tenna is basically Spamton who didin't completely lose his mind, they even say that they were copying eachother because they both thought the other was the big shot in charge

>>712640769
They were besties until the incident

>>712640769
The joke with Tenna is that Spamton is ripping off Tenna's entire shtick poorly. We just didn't have the full joke because 3 got delayed for ages.

>>712645204
Yeah exactly, it's a mutual delusion spiral. Spamton thinks Tenna is the Big Shot pulling the strings, Tenna thinks Spamton's the one with the connections. They're both nobodies trying to fake it 'til they make it, and it just loops into this tragicomic rivalry built entirely on misunderstanding. Peak Toby writing honestly.

>>712649095
kino

>>712621096 (OP)
who is that on the right anyway?

>>712621682
ABSOLUTELY FUCKING BTFO

>>712625353
still dont think thats what Gooseworx was going for but hey keep up the transphobia i guess.

This is not a new archtype. You just haven't seen or heard of the other ones.

>>712621682
KoTH chads own this shitty ass board.
OP btfo'd

>>712649851
if we get a hatterene like enemie in the next chapters i lose my mind

>>712649851 >>712621682 >>712621767 >>712622552 >>712622598 >>712623320
This absolutely reeks of same poster.
Didn't even post any proof like a screenshot of their alleged post.
Would have pointed out all of the many many other posts but doing so caused the system to think my post was spam.

>>712650668
it's going to be ok

>>712650772
But is it, Anon? Is it?

>>712650668
Relax OP

>>712650668
Yeah it does seem like someone samefagging pretty hard. Might just be two or three really dedicated Deltarune defenders though, they're very very loyal to ballwashing the game and singing its praises. I haven't even played it, but they are so cult like it's turned me off from ever giving it a play

>>712650817
w-why specifically did you save that from there

>>712649998
None of these share anything with the OP description except being TV heads

>>712650948
Are you having a schizophrenic episode Anon?

>>712650947
>>712650668
Samefag lol

>>712621096 (OP)
Toby Fox has never had a single original thought

>>712651136
You're afraid. I'm too close to the truth. It'll all be over soon Anon, I'll be there very soon.

>>712621682
OP BTFO FOREVERMORE

>>712651093
>bombastic showmen
most of them have pretty out-there personalities, the showmen part applies to many of them and the tv/showman association is obvious
>>in red jackets with twin coattails, black pants, and dress shoes
that doesn't even apply to cain, his pants are brown, and besides a jacket with coattails and dress shoes go together so if a character is wearing one, of course they'd wear the other
that's like saying "a ball gown AND high heels? UGH, HOW UNCREATIVE!" and red is a loud bright color that is associated with big personality and is bright and attention grabbing
>with big cartoony white gloves
those are also 1. commonly seen in old tv characters which the tv head guy is based off of, as well as commonly worn with a suit, and a few of the characters in that pic have em
>>are outwardly friendly and energetic as show hosts
applies to a few of the characters, also remember, the character was designed as a show host first, of course a show host is energetic and friendly, you want him to be a depressive asshole?
>>but are secretly antagonistic and villainous
BECAUSE THEY'RE VILLAINS HOLY FUCK
at this point OP is just tying together several traits into one, he could say "outwardly friendly but actually antagonistic" but he chose to divide them as if they're separate
also many of the charas in that pic are like that
>>and 3D tumblr sexymen animated in wacky cartoony ways
>3D
not a unique thing
>tumblr sexyman
that just applies to any tall guy, cmon, most charas in that pic are that
>animated in wacky cartoony ways
IN A WACKY CARTOONY GAME? NIGGER MY JIGGERS WHY DON'TCHA
>>that trap their contestants in games
"that do [thing that is expected of them as a show host]"

seriously most of these points are just
1. a dog
2. that BARKS?
3. and HOWLS?
4. it also LIKES BONES
5. and has EARS

>>712651707
That's a lot of words to say those don't have as much in common with Caine as Tenna

>>712651707
>that doesn't even apply to cain, his pants are brown
well golly gee we moved 20mm on the color wheel, it's a completely different character now!
lmao

>>712651402
>No u
>>712651136
>Goes right back to doing it
Anon this is what I mean this is not normal, it's just a game

>>712651707
They're not brown pants retard, it's reflected light

Stop coping

>>712635590
Because smelly a-nons and smelly tumblr girls belong together <3

Appearance wise they're riffing off the same thing.
Personality wise, Tenna is clearly an extension of Spamton who came out 2 years prior to Digital Circus. Spamton even had some pretty popular fandubs done by Caine's voice actor, again, before the release of Digital Circus.

Tenna is just gorgeous to look at. The SNES 3D Model to 2D sprite look is just brilliant.
Toberson has done it once again.

>>712621682
basado beyond relief

>>712621096 (OP)
>eccentric character always grinning

ded thread ded gaemynrtv

>>712658247
do u really beleeb

>>712621096 (OP)
>TADC invented showmen

>>712658456
Zoomers literally have no idea what this is, or what non-screenbased entertainment is

>>712658456
Tenna is a game show host though

>>712658603
>non-screenbased entertainment
You mean, like, that SEX thing? Ew, PDF file gooner, touch grass!

>>712637440
yes, property of hate
I heard the creator of the comic was pretty salty at mr puzzles design

Deltarune did it better, so Toby is inherently in the right.

>>712659458
This. The reason Toby is such a thief is because he sees all these ideas with wasted potential and goes "let's show you how it's REALLY done".

>>712659458
>>712659643
Careful anons! Don't choke on his dick!

>>712659458
>>712659643
T B H the tv head tenna was pretty obvious, its just the fandom absolutely refuses to entertain the idea because "its too obvious and toby would never do it!"

>>712660128
he has a cute dick, we've all seen it

>>712660682
eenie meenie weenie?
would

>>712621096 (OP)
Toby is a blatant panderer and manipulator

>>712660168
The fandom thought he would be just a tv with hands and the chapter 2 smile