Anonymous
6/14/2025, 12:10:51 PM No.712621410
>It feels... commercial
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Anonymous
6/14/2025, 12:23:25 PM No.712621974
Say what you want about Mario Kart World but my god does the game have some of the best OST I've heard in a long time.
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Anonymous
6/14/2025, 12:28:27 PM No.712622196
>>712621974
No doubt... but it's still 90% tracks someone else already composed years ago. Very few original tracks. The Credits is even a remake of the Mario Kart DS Credits song.
No doubt... but it's still 90% tracks someone else already composed years ago. Very few original tracks. The Credits is even a remake of the Mario Kart DS Credits song.
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Anonymous
6/14/2025, 12:30:19 PM No.712622265
>>712622196
Wouldn't really know. Have only played mario kart 64 and that was ages ago
Wouldn't really know. Have only played mario kart 64 and that was ages ago
Anonymous
6/14/2025, 12:35:22 PM No.712622498
This is just looking at something you don't like, on purpose, just to be upset.
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Anonymous
6/14/2025, 12:38:27 PM No.712622634
Anon this year is mario's 40tu anniversary plus they needed lots of songs so that hearing them in the open world doesn't get repetitive. Composing 200 new songs seems unrealistic
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Anonymous
6/14/2025, 12:50:51 PM No.712623259
>>712622498
No, it's rather that I feel like BotW and now Mario Kart is Nintendo subjecting their best franchises to a "Greatest Hits" sample. You think of Zelda and Open World, you imagine how amazing it could be if a game like Ocarina of Time had been bigger and open worlded, and have Dark Souls 1 levels of interconnectivity in dungeon design or something. Then you get the game and most of the overworld's landmarks are just "cute easter eggs" to previous game locations, like the Lon Lon Ranch area, or the useless "Temple of Time" on the Great Plateau.
Now in Mario Kart, people are talking about how music is so amazing, and no joke, it sounds fantastic, but it's the same "Nothing but references" vibe as BotW has.
It just makes me concerned what Nintendo games will even offer 10 years from now, if they're not willing to paint new lines, and I can't tell you which musics were even original in MKW.
Another cynical thing is I think they intentionally lowered the OST without a volume option to make people go "Ugh why is it so quiet, I'll listen on Nintendo Music lmao"
Like it's all part of some dumbass business plan.
No, it's rather that I feel like BotW and now Mario Kart is Nintendo subjecting their best franchises to a "Greatest Hits" sample. You think of Zelda and Open World, you imagine how amazing it could be if a game like Ocarina of Time had been bigger and open worlded, and have Dark Souls 1 levels of interconnectivity in dungeon design or something. Then you get the game and most of the overworld's landmarks are just "cute easter eggs" to previous game locations, like the Lon Lon Ranch area, or the useless "Temple of Time" on the Great Plateau.
Now in Mario Kart, people are talking about how music is so amazing, and no joke, it sounds fantastic, but it's the same "Nothing but references" vibe as BotW has.
It just makes me concerned what Nintendo games will even offer 10 years from now, if they're not willing to paint new lines, and I can't tell you which musics were even original in MKW.
Another cynical thing is I think they intentionally lowered the OST without a volume option to make people go "Ugh why is it so quiet, I'll listen on Nintendo Music lmao"
Like it's all part of some dumbass business plan.
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Anonymous
6/14/2025, 12:52:46 PM No.712623340
>>712622196
>someone else already composed years ago
Retard, the new tracks are about as different in terms of arrangement and compositional style as is possible while still being recognisable tunes. The amount of creativity and work that went into it is incredible.
>someone else already composed years ago
Retard, the new tracks are about as different in terms of arrangement and compositional style as is possible while still being recognisable tunes. The amount of creativity and work that went into it is incredible.
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Anonymous
6/14/2025, 12:55:59 PM No.712623494
>>712622634
Mario Kart were already 50% retro and 50% original. They already had a balance.
But as you say, the requirements of the game format restricted how creative they could be en masse. And that's a double-edged sword. I really appreciate the attention to detail in music like how every track has its own intro-cue now, and if you play in knockout mode, they will loop over to the ending when you're near the end of a round very seamlessly.
But in the grander scheme i just remember not expecting to be mind blown but then I got my mind blown playing MK8 for the first time, seeing all the brand new track concepts and hearing those new melodies I hadn't heard before, and MKW... it ain't got that at all.
It's a superb game in its own right, and I like this take on "Open World" but ultimately I was just left thinking about how this felt for the first time, and how MK8 felt, and I was already a grown-ass man in 2014, so it's not like it's one of those "Things were better when I was a kid" things.
Mario Kart were already 50% retro and 50% original. They already had a balance.
But as you say, the requirements of the game format restricted how creative they could be en masse. And that's a double-edged sword. I really appreciate the attention to detail in music like how every track has its own intro-cue now, and if you play in knockout mode, they will loop over to the ending when you're near the end of a round very seamlessly.
But in the grander scheme i just remember not expecting to be mind blown but then I got my mind blown playing MK8 for the first time, seeing all the brand new track concepts and hearing those new melodies I hadn't heard before, and MKW... it ain't got that at all.
It's a superb game in its own right, and I like this take on "Open World" but ultimately I was just left thinking about how this felt for the first time, and how MK8 felt, and I was already a grown-ass man in 2014, so it's not like it's one of those "Things were better when I was a kid" things.
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Anonymous
6/14/2025, 12:56:32 PM No.712623523
>>712623259
not reading your ramblings, sorry
not reading your ramblings, sorry
Anonymous
6/14/2025, 12:57:07 PM No.712623557
>>712623340
>Retard, the new tracks are about as different in terms of arrangement and compositional style as is possible while still being recognisable tunes. The amount of creativity and work that went into it is incredible.
I don't care if they got some Jazz expert to create a Jazz Fusion take on a song. Good musicians are experts, and 90% of the music industry is forgettable slop. Strange correlation, right? Case in point, I literally don't give a shit that the arrangements are great arrangements.
>Retard, the new tracks are about as different in terms of arrangement and compositional style as is possible while still being recognisable tunes. The amount of creativity and work that went into it is incredible.
I don't care if they got some Jazz expert to create a Jazz Fusion take on a song. Good musicians are experts, and 90% of the music industry is forgettable slop. Strange correlation, right? Case in point, I literally don't give a shit that the arrangements are great arrangements.
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Anonymous
6/14/2025, 12:57:56 PM No.712623602
>>712622634
>Composing 200 new songs seems unrealistic
Why? You should demand more from a huge company like Nintendo, and a first party title with a high budget.
If a single dude can compose 140 tracks for an AA game, goddamn Nintendo's music department should.
>Composing 200 new songs seems unrealistic
Why? You should demand more from a huge company like Nintendo, and a first party title with a high budget.
If a single dude can compose 140 tracks for an AA game, goddamn Nintendo's music department should.
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Anonymous
6/14/2025, 12:58:53 PM No.712623647
>>712623557
Funny you mention jazz because if you had any understanding of the genre you wouldn't be spouting this embarrassing take
Funny you mention jazz because if you had any understanding of the genre you wouldn't be spouting this embarrassing take
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Anonymous
6/14/2025, 12:58:59 PM No.712623650
>>712621410 (OP)
>Nintendo shits out another soulless copy of what they've already done a thousand times and their manchildren fan base buys it
Nothing new here, folks.
>Nintendo shits out another soulless copy of what they've already done a thousand times and their manchildren fan base buys it
Nothing new here, folks.
Anonymous
6/14/2025, 1:00:10 PM No.712623703
>>712623647
I said Jazz Fusion, and there is a track that is literally just some guy playing the piano like the OST was a jazz piece.
I said Jazz Fusion, and there is a track that is literally just some guy playing the piano like the OST was a jazz piece.
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Anonymous
6/14/2025, 1:01:22 PM No.712623768
>>712623703
You could have just said you had autism
You could have just said you had autism
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Anonymous
6/14/2025, 1:02:37 PM No.712623824
>>712623602
>If a single dude can compose 140 tracks for an AA game, goddamn Nintendo's music department should.
This and
>>712623340
this
are strawmen.
You're making me out to say I expected every song to be its own OST when my complaint is that 90% of the OST is unoriginal. It used to be 50% slop and 50% original
Now it's 90% rearrangements and 10% original
If you can't manage the same dichotomy at scale, why increase the scale? That's all I'm asking in the end.
>If a single dude can compose 140 tracks for an AA game, goddamn Nintendo's music department should.
This and
>>712623340
this
are strawmen.
You're making me out to say I expected every song to be its own OST when my complaint is that 90% of the OST is unoriginal. It used to be 50% slop and 50% original
Now it's 90% rearrangements and 10% original
If you can't manage the same dichotomy at scale, why increase the scale? That's all I'm asking in the end.
Anonymous
6/14/2025, 1:03:46 PM No.712623871
>>712623768
Jazz is the genre where there's a drum pattern with swing to it and some dude playing up and down all the colorful chords on the piano while it sounds like nothing particularly matters, and everything is "chill".
That's the definition of Jazz, and I do understand it, you retard.
Jazz is the genre where there's a drum pattern with swing to it and some dude playing up and down all the colorful chords on the piano while it sounds like nothing particularly matters, and everything is "chill".
That's the definition of Jazz, and I do understand it, you retard.
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Anonymous
6/14/2025, 1:06:22 PM No.712623981
>>712623871
KEK I didn't realise I was talking to Miles Davis!
KEK I didn't realise I was talking to Miles Davis!
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Anonymous
6/14/2025, 1:09:51 PM No.712624142
Anonymous
6/14/2025, 1:12:22 PM No.712624261
>>712621974
Snoys can't accept anything positive about Nintendo or Nintendo games. It's called Nintendo Derangement Syndrome.
Snoys can't accept anything positive about Nintendo or Nintendo games. It's called Nintendo Derangement Syndrome.
Anonymous
6/14/2025, 1:13:58 PM No.712624328
Seriously what about the game isn't 90% remake? That's kinda Nintendo's tactics since forever, release popular titles with minimal changes and ppl goop it up
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Anonymous
6/14/2025, 1:14:49 PM No.712624372
When will Tendies and Snoys stop being annoying retards who huff their own facts and claim their systems and games are better?
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Anonymous
6/14/2025, 1:19:58 PM No.712624609
>>712624328
I think you meant "what about other games isn't also 90% remake?" but I disagree.
A lot of Nintendo's franchises are templated into their predecessors, correct. But within that framework they create stuff that hasn't been seen before, like, the whole tracks and how they go, what the aesthetic is. Somehow Mount Wario in MK8 sticks out from every prior snow-track despite there being one in every Mario Kart, because it's got this "full ski course" feel, with slalom and a victory-lap at the end.
The creativity was in how to innovate within known parameters, whereas this isn't innovation. It's just musical experts (I read they brought in non-game music talent too) to make standardized reimaginations of known material.
It's like, on one hand it's better than ever, but Nintendo isn't as home-grown, like MK8 which formed the "Mario Kart Band" and had a team of in-house employees making terrific music that was brand new to Mario for 50% of the game. This is just a circlejerk of known quantities. It's commercial af compared to previous soundtracks, and it's literally made this way to get NSO subbers to use Nintendo Music.
I think you meant "what about other games isn't also 90% remake?" but I disagree.
A lot of Nintendo's franchises are templated into their predecessors, correct. But within that framework they create stuff that hasn't been seen before, like, the whole tracks and how they go, what the aesthetic is. Somehow Mount Wario in MK8 sticks out from every prior snow-track despite there being one in every Mario Kart, because it's got this "full ski course" feel, with slalom and a victory-lap at the end.
The creativity was in how to innovate within known parameters, whereas this isn't innovation. It's just musical experts (I read they brought in non-game music talent too) to make standardized reimaginations of known material.
It's like, on one hand it's better than ever, but Nintendo isn't as home-grown, like MK8 which formed the "Mario Kart Band" and had a team of in-house employees making terrific music that was brand new to Mario for 50% of the game. This is just a circlejerk of known quantities. It's commercial af compared to previous soundtracks, and it's literally made this way to get NSO subbers to use Nintendo Music.
Anonymous
6/14/2025, 1:23:14 PM No.712624778
>>712623494
>seeing all the brand new track concepts and hearing those new melodies I hadn't heard before, and MKW... it ain't got that at all.
But World has more new courses than 8 did at release
>seeing all the brand new track concepts and hearing those new melodies I hadn't heard before, and MKW... it ain't got that at all.
But World has more new courses than 8 did at release
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Anonymous
6/14/2025, 1:27:35 PM No.712624995
>>712624778
Which ones? They all blended in for me. Everything looks very boilerplate in this game. Like there's desert area, snow area, mud area, ocean area, and then they have "race-track" props, but otherwise everything feels like it's the same thing from beginning to end.
Which ones? They all blended in for me. Everything looks very boilerplate in this game. Like there's desert area, snow area, mud area, ocean area, and then they have "race-track" props, but otherwise everything feels like it's the same thing from beginning to end.
Anonymous
6/14/2025, 1:39:37 PM No.712625547
yo fuck nintendo for what they did to charles, peach's VA, and the dogshit switch 2
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Anonymous
6/14/2025, 1:42:36 PM No.712625706
>>712625547
this
Nintendo is now a pure sellout conglomerate, that takes the cheapest voice actors they can, regurgitates music by hiring outside musicians, and chasing "world class" quality. They've become like any other publisher now, and there's no going back.
this
Nintendo is now a pure sellout conglomerate, that takes the cheapest voice actors they can, regurgitates music by hiring outside musicians, and chasing "world class" quality. They've become like any other publisher now, and there's no going back.
Anonymous
6/14/2025, 1:45:43 PM No.712625860
>>712625547
What did they do to Charles?
What did they do to Charles?
Anonymous
6/14/2025, 1:47:05 PM No.712625938
>>712621410 (OP)
all the tracks have new music, they went above and beyond the minimum requirements for music in the game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qoz2soHRw_w
all the tracks have new music, they went above and beyond the minimum requirements for music in the game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qoz2soHRw_w
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Anonymous
6/14/2025, 1:54:30 PM No.712626328
>>712621410 (OP)
The crime syndicate has no talent left so they are forced to endlessly recycle old content
The crime syndicate has no talent left so they are forced to endlessly recycle old content
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Anonymous
6/14/2025, 1:57:01 PM No.712626449
>>712626328
Just a natural byproduct when a big company has all its Sales & Business staff rise above the creative executive talent.
Just a natural byproduct when a big company has all its Sales & Business staff rise above the creative executive talent.
Anonymous
6/14/2025, 1:58:43 PM No.712626525
>>712621410 (OP)
You don't get to complain about this when they did arrangements of SMB2 Underground and Yoshi's Island Final Boss.
You don't get to complain about this when they did arrangements of SMB2 Underground and Yoshi's Island Final Boss.
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Anonymous
6/14/2025, 1:59:19 PM No.712626552
>>712625938
When you say "new music" you're talking about arrangements, which is not the same as new compositions.
I could've specified in the OP that I'm talking about original composition, not just "whatever is on the OST".
We all agree that the game doesn't literally recycle files from old OST.
When you say "new music" you're talking about arrangements, which is not the same as new compositions.
I could've specified in the OP that I'm talking about original composition, not just "whatever is on the OST".
We all agree that the game doesn't literally recycle files from old OST.
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Anonymous
6/14/2025, 2:00:20 PM No.712626609
>>712626525
Yes I do, because Yoshi's Island is a shit sequel to Super Mario World, so that doesn't count.
Yes I do, because Yoshi's Island is a shit sequel to Super Mario World, so that doesn't count.
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Anonymous
6/14/2025, 2:00:50 PM No.712626626
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Anonymous
6/14/2025, 2:02:32 PM No.712626698
>>712626609
Fuck off.
Fuck off.
Anonymous
6/14/2025, 2:09:36 PM No.712627053
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmGk2NubxjY
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Anonymous
6/14/2025, 2:17:50 PM No.712627454
>>712626626
That's a new track. No problem with that.
That's a new track. No problem with that.
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Anonymous
6/14/2025, 2:19:15 PM No.712627525
>>712627053
I love Dire Dire Docks, but I hate that this is in the game.
I love Dire Dire Docks, but I hate that this is in the game.
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Anonymous
6/14/2025, 2:20:43 PM No.712627607
>>712627525
Why?
Why?
Anonymous
6/14/2025, 2:23:57 PM No.712627776
>>712623494
>seeing all the brand new track concepts and hearing those new melodies I hadn't heard before, and MKW... it ain't got that at all.
yes it does
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ow_ni_K7qhc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDGn3SZBHsQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnAcfJAC_-E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jV-33ayVLc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k23QjRph1J8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifkxfHBT-g4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtlYY0ehDnk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sjv7k7dU9hQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9geUnez8wR4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cczKaiuTveo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GkzhmoZ2Cg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FC-EsnLrT1Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DVvBtpocQA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzgUbedJF88
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVeRp7mh3rQ
>seeing all the brand new track concepts and hearing those new melodies I hadn't heard before, and MKW... it ain't got that at all.
yes it does
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ow_ni_K7qhc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDGn3SZBHsQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnAcfJAC_-E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jV-33ayVLc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k23QjRph1J8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifkxfHBT-g4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtlYY0ehDnk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sjv7k7dU9hQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9geUnez8wR4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cczKaiuTveo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GkzhmoZ2Cg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FC-EsnLrT1Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DVvBtpocQA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzgUbedJF88
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVeRp7mh3rQ
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Anonymous
6/14/2025, 2:26:34 PM No.712627939
>>712627454
see
>>712627776
it has quite a lot of new music
the remixes of practically everything else in the mario franchise is extra gravy
see
>>712627776
it has quite a lot of new music
the remixes of practically everything else in the mario franchise is extra gravy
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Anonymous
6/14/2025, 2:26:52 PM No.712627961
>>712627776
>yes it does
Isn't Cheep Cheep Falls from Mario Kart DS?
Any way, my comment wasn't that. Obviously there are like 10% new tracks in World, I just meant to say that I didn't have that "woah" moment MK8 had becauase a lot of it blended in with itself this time. The fact that the OST, at least in Grand Prix Mode, isn't even tied to the track but everything is playing in a Jukebox and a Mode, kills it a bit for me. First time I saw Thwomp Ruins in MK8 I was like "omg this is amazing". Mount Wario had me going "yeeeeahhh!" but in World everything flew by. I enjoyed it, but I felt like I didn't really take a lot of it in, and I just registered there being one familiar "Mario Classic OST, re-recorded" after another.
>yes it does
Isn't Cheep Cheep Falls from Mario Kart DS?
Any way, my comment wasn't that. Obviously there are like 10% new tracks in World, I just meant to say that I didn't have that "woah" moment MK8 had becauase a lot of it blended in with itself this time. The fact that the OST, at least in Grand Prix Mode, isn't even tied to the track but everything is playing in a Jukebox and a Mode, kills it a bit for me. First time I saw Thwomp Ruins in MK8 I was like "omg this is amazing". Mount Wario had me going "yeeeeahhh!" but in World everything flew by. I enjoyed it, but I felt like I didn't really take a lot of it in, and I just registered there being one familiar "Mario Classic OST, re-recorded" after another.
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Anonymous
6/14/2025, 2:28:08 PM No.712628025
>>712627939
But it doesn't have 50% new OST. It has 10%, and the same goes for the stage designs. Most of this game are level designs they didn't make for this game. The efforts were spent on basically remastering what already existed and making it seamless with itself, and that seamlessness doesn't ultimately mean much because the Open World is not that great in the end.
But it doesn't have 50% new OST. It has 10%, and the same goes for the stage designs. Most of this game are level designs they didn't make for this game. The efforts were spent on basically remastering what already existed and making it seamless with itself, and that seamlessness doesn't ultimately mean much because the Open World is not that great in the end.
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Anonymous
6/14/2025, 2:30:54 PM No.712628178
https://youtu.be/Pk85FfgU2ug?si=ox6iiGzpsv9T7lfs
Anonymous
6/14/2025, 2:31:24 PM No.712628203
>>712628025
Every Mario kart is half old tracks lol
Every Mario kart is half old tracks lol
Anonymous
6/14/2025, 2:35:28 PM No.712628438
>>712621410 (OP)
It's like 200+ tracks, and most of the remake is for the in game driving radio or the intercourse segments.
It's like 200+ tracks, and most of the remake is for the in game driving radio or the intercourse segments.
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Anonymous
6/14/2025, 2:37:50 PM No.712628561
>>712627961
It doesn't help that both in Grand Prix and in Knockout mode you don't go around the tracks a set number of times, but usually once or at most twice so you don't get to hear all of the music.
It doesn't help that both in Grand Prix and in Knockout mode you don't go around the tracks a set number of times, but usually once or at most twice so you don't get to hear all of the music.
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Anonymous
6/14/2025, 2:38:52 PM No.712628624
>>712621410 (OP)
And they sound amazing. Love the Yoshi's Island final boss remix.
And they sound amazing. Love the Yoshi's Island final boss remix.
Anonymous
6/14/2025, 2:39:55 PM No.712628676
>>712627961
>I just meant to say that I didn't have that "woah" moment MK8 had becauase a lot of it blended in with itself this time
if MK8 didn't exist, you would be wowing at MKW
also the lead composer for MKW did the best songs in MK8, and now that they got pretty much the whole mario franchise out of the way musically, they can focus on new songs for dlc, and probably do some mario wonder remixes
>Isn't Cheep Cheep Falls from Mario Kart DS?
cheep cheep beach is ds and it sounded like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dkehh6uzwSo
>everything is playing in a Jukebox and a Mode
the intermission tracks are basically just free roam, so it makes sense the music is just classic tracks for those, with over 200 songs, it's fine
they went far beyond the min requirement for music in a kart game, in fact it feels like more of a mario anniversary game
maybe they'll have different combination of tracks as DLC, or in online racing tournaments or whatever, it doesn't make sense to compose specific music for the intermission tracks
>but I felt like I didn't really take a lot of it in
that's because the game has too much going on
>I just meant to say that I didn't have that "woah" moment MK8 had becauase a lot of it blended in with itself this time
if MK8 didn't exist, you would be wowing at MKW
also the lead composer for MKW did the best songs in MK8, and now that they got pretty much the whole mario franchise out of the way musically, they can focus on new songs for dlc, and probably do some mario wonder remixes
>Isn't Cheep Cheep Falls from Mario Kart DS?
cheep cheep beach is ds and it sounded like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dkehh6uzwSo
>everything is playing in a Jukebox and a Mode
the intermission tracks are basically just free roam, so it makes sense the music is just classic tracks for those, with over 200 songs, it's fine
they went far beyond the min requirement for music in a kart game, in fact it feels like more of a mario anniversary game
maybe they'll have different combination of tracks as DLC, or in online racing tournaments or whatever, it doesn't make sense to compose specific music for the intermission tracks
>but I felt like I didn't really take a lot of it in
that's because the game has too much going on
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Anonymous
6/14/2025, 2:41:27 PM No.712628763
>>712621410 (OP)
The fact that there are Yoshi's Island remixes in this is splendid.
The fact that there are Yoshi's Island remixes in this is splendid.
Anonymous
6/14/2025, 2:41:48 PM No.712628774
This real world is annoying fucking noise and I’m so fucking done.
Anonymous
6/14/2025, 2:41:58 PM No.712628787
>>712628025
so you would rather the game have only 20 music tracks, 10 new tracks, 10 old tracks
instead of 10 new tracks + 200 tracks from mario's entire history
>Open World is not that great in the end
it has grown on me
I just want proper rewards for these course panels
so you would rather the game have only 20 music tracks, 10 new tracks, 10 old tracks
instead of 10 new tracks + 200 tracks from mario's entire history
>Open World is not that great in the end
it has grown on me
I just want proper rewards for these course panels
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Anonymous
6/14/2025, 2:44:03 PM No.712628904
>>712623259
Glad someone else pointed out the sound mixing. I don't remember struggling to hear the OST in previous Mario Karts
Glad someone else pointed out the sound mixing. I don't remember struggling to hear the OST in previous Mario Karts
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Anonymous
6/14/2025, 2:45:07 PM No.712628954
>>712628716
all the bowser tracks are fantastic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrJgNxMOCCk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGoQ8SlOVDg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dn06heIVOKY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5DJuUrSlb4Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVeRp7mh3rQ
all the bowser tracks are fantastic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrJgNxMOCCk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGoQ8SlOVDg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dn06heIVOKY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5DJuUrSlb4Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVeRp7mh3rQ
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Anonymous
6/14/2025, 2:45:11 PM No.712628959
>>712628561
I sorta liked the gimmick of the driving from track to track being level-design in itself, and then having just 1 track. That contributes to what I'm addressing to begin with. Novelty and originality. I actually enjoyed that about it. I just think it's fucking lame that when you visit "Wario Stadium" you hear the Mario Circuit OST, unless it's because I'm conflating Wario Stadium 64 for Wario Stadium DS. Because the DS one needs the Waluigi Pinball theme, and not the Mario Circuit track.
but it's just the feeling that any time I see something "new" in this game, or Breath of the Wild to bring another example of "Old vs New", it feels like 90% of the time the "new" thing I'm seeing is a 1:1 remake of something I've already seen.
I don't care they made 5 OoT Clones in Zelda, or that every Super Mario game has the same Ordinary, then Desert, then Ocean themed areas, or that it's always Goombas and Koopas. I just mind what the composition is. And for Mario Kart World that goes for both the course LEVEL design and the song compositions. I don't care how amazingly great a rearrangment of my favorite Mario Kart song sounds and that there's a large quantity of it. If that's 90% of the game's content, I feel like that's failed potential. Like, you actually had the production budget to do slightly less and achieve a lot more by just splitting "Original vs Existing" compositions at least 1:3 but it's 1:10 and after a while I just start to become cynical, like Nintendo is "throwing money" at a project, and telling them to "reproduce the content".
It's the same problem as BotW in the end, where it's hard to appreciate this "amazingly new Hyrule" when 90% of it are just callbacks instead of its own distinct setting with actual lore. When I realized every "old Zelda location" in BotW was an easter egg and not backstory of some kind, I stopped caring. Same in MKW.
I sorta liked the gimmick of the driving from track to track being level-design in itself, and then having just 1 track. That contributes to what I'm addressing to begin with. Novelty and originality. I actually enjoyed that about it. I just think it's fucking lame that when you visit "Wario Stadium" you hear the Mario Circuit OST, unless it's because I'm conflating Wario Stadium 64 for Wario Stadium DS. Because the DS one needs the Waluigi Pinball theme, and not the Mario Circuit track.
but it's just the feeling that any time I see something "new" in this game, or Breath of the Wild to bring another example of "Old vs New", it feels like 90% of the time the "new" thing I'm seeing is a 1:1 remake of something I've already seen.
I don't care they made 5 OoT Clones in Zelda, or that every Super Mario game has the same Ordinary, then Desert, then Ocean themed areas, or that it's always Goombas and Koopas. I just mind what the composition is. And for Mario Kart World that goes for both the course LEVEL design and the song compositions. I don't care how amazingly great a rearrangment of my favorite Mario Kart song sounds and that there's a large quantity of it. If that's 90% of the game's content, I feel like that's failed potential. Like, you actually had the production budget to do slightly less and achieve a lot more by just splitting "Original vs Existing" compositions at least 1:3 but it's 1:10 and after a while I just start to become cynical, like Nintendo is "throwing money" at a project, and telling them to "reproduce the content".
It's the same problem as BotW in the end, where it's hard to appreciate this "amazingly new Hyrule" when 90% of it are just callbacks instead of its own distinct setting with actual lore. When I realized every "old Zelda location" in BotW was an easter egg and not backstory of some kind, I stopped caring. Same in MKW.
Anonymous
6/14/2025, 2:46:07 PM No.712629018
>>712628904
I think it's cause there's too much going on in the game with 24 players and items so your brain can't focus on the music
I think it's cause there's too much going on in the game with 24 players and items so your brain can't focus on the music
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Anonymous
6/14/2025, 2:46:12 PM No.712629023
>>712628676
>if MK8 didn't exist, you would be wowing at MKW
This is true, but I would still be pissed that there's a 90% ratio of unoriginal content, when it used to be 50%.
>if MK8 didn't exist, you would be wowing at MKW
This is true, but I would still be pissed that there's a 90% ratio of unoriginal content, when it used to be 50%.
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Anonymous
6/14/2025, 2:46:25 PM No.712629032
>>712624372
when you stop being a faggot, so never
when you stop being a faggot, so never
Anonymous
6/14/2025, 2:50:29 PM No.712629285
>>712628787
Yes, I would, because to me having 200 "AMAZING" songs vs 20 AMAZING songs, is still ultimately quantity > quality, and the fact that they had to cram everything into a "Jukebox" like it's a Spotify Playlist (which also gives me Burnout Paradise ick) just feels unfocused and uncharming to me.
I think the Jukebox is great for any time you're off-track, but if you're playing Grand Prix, it should ALWAYS play a specific theme on a specific track, and the Grand Prix pre-selections should be doctored in a way where even the off-course parts are part of an "experience".
That's how Grand Prix used to feel, like each one is an event, and you're seeking what Nintendo cooked for THIS one. Then you also have the retro courses, the other 50% and at least those would give you that "Let's see how MKWii looks in HD!" or see the GBA tracks continually reinterpreted.
But in this game it's 90% reinterpretation of old slop. That skews the balance for me, and it becomes quantity for the sake of quantity, and ironically, the game still only took me like 3 hours to get through in terms of Grand Prix and trying every mode. Free-roam is nice, but again, the Jukebox and the "retroslop" aspect of this game should've been entirely dedicated to that mode. But instead, the whole game is built around a weak Open World execution and then compromised into Grand Prix mode through it, and the OST feels like looking for a needle in a haystack in terms of originality.
Yes, I would, because to me having 200 "AMAZING" songs vs 20 AMAZING songs, is still ultimately quantity > quality, and the fact that they had to cram everything into a "Jukebox" like it's a Spotify Playlist (which also gives me Burnout Paradise ick) just feels unfocused and uncharming to me.
I think the Jukebox is great for any time you're off-track, but if you're playing Grand Prix, it should ALWAYS play a specific theme on a specific track, and the Grand Prix pre-selections should be doctored in a way where even the off-course parts are part of an "experience".
That's how Grand Prix used to feel, like each one is an event, and you're seeking what Nintendo cooked for THIS one. Then you also have the retro courses, the other 50% and at least those would give you that "Let's see how MKWii looks in HD!" or see the GBA tracks continually reinterpreted.
But in this game it's 90% reinterpretation of old slop. That skews the balance for me, and it becomes quantity for the sake of quantity, and ironically, the game still only took me like 3 hours to get through in terms of Grand Prix and trying every mode. Free-roam is nice, but again, the Jukebox and the "retroslop" aspect of this game should've been entirely dedicated to that mode. But instead, the whole game is built around a weak Open World execution and then compromised into Grand Prix mode through it, and the OST feels like looking for a needle in a haystack in terms of originality.
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Anonymous
6/14/2025, 2:50:58 PM No.712629317
Anonymous
6/14/2025, 2:51:30 PM No.712629346
>>712628954
But they're also completely unoriginal because they were composed for a different game.
But they're also completely unoriginal because they were composed for a different game.
Anonymous
6/14/2025, 2:52:01 PM No.712629372
>>712628787
>I just want proper rewards for these course panels
Yeah, its kind of dumb. The only ones that are easily tracked also only give you a sticker.
They could easily do something like give you the mirror version or something instead of that weird way you need to unlock mirrored now
>I just want proper rewards for these course panels
Yeah, its kind of dumb. The only ones that are easily tracked also only give you a sticker.
They could easily do something like give you the mirror version or something instead of that weird way you need to unlock mirrored now
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Anonymous
6/14/2025, 2:53:10 PM No.712629442
>>712629285
>just feels unfocused and uncharming to me.
dont care
>but if you're playing Grand Prix, it should ALWAYS play a specific theme on a specific track
rainbow road always plays rainbow road, what you talking about
>just feels unfocused and uncharming to me.
dont care
>but if you're playing Grand Prix, it should ALWAYS play a specific theme on a specific track
rainbow road always plays rainbow road, what you talking about
Anonymous
6/14/2025, 2:55:57 PM No.712629618
>>712629372
the stickers are neat cause I like all the designs they did, but dumb cause nobody will ever take a second to look at them if you're playing online
the stickers would actually be great for t-shirts to be honest
I have a feeling for a game this big, there will be dlc to get the most out of this world experience
the stickers are neat cause I like all the designs they did, but dumb cause nobody will ever take a second to look at them if you're playing online
the stickers would actually be great for t-shirts to be honest
I have a feeling for a game this big, there will be dlc to get the most out of this world experience
Anonymous
6/14/2025, 3:03:26 PM No.712630052
>>712628904
Yep
>>712629018
Ppppffh, no. It's just a stupid mix. It seems the "sound engineering standards" nowadays is to put the OST entirely into the background, and that's what this is. It's not because "Oh my gawd, the game is so chaotic, you won't see it coming, there's so much happening"
Sound-design-wise it's no more or less noisy than 8 was. It's just a decision someone made, to make the OST more of a background element, probably because of the "playlist" way it's utilized.
Yep
>>712629018
Ppppffh, no. It's just a stupid mix. It seems the "sound engineering standards" nowadays is to put the OST entirely into the background, and that's what this is. It's not because "Oh my gawd, the game is so chaotic, you won't see it coming, there's so much happening"
Sound-design-wise it's no more or less noisy than 8 was. It's just a decision someone made, to make the OST more of a background element, probably because of the "playlist" way it's utilized.
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Anonymous
6/14/2025, 3:20:06 PM No.712631037
>>712630052
after listening to the music carefully, and then playing the game, I can verify you are wrong
just pay attention you bird brain
after listening to the music carefully, and then playing the game, I can verify you are wrong
just pay attention you bird brain
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Anonymous
6/14/2025, 3:20:58 PM No.712631086
>>712621410 (OP)
I just wish you could mess with the sound settings, the music is too low and the sound effects are too loud
I just wish you could mess with the sound settings, the music is too low and the sound effects are too loud
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Anonymous
6/14/2025, 3:24:17 PM No.712631280
>>712631086
Remember to pay for NSO Expansion and use the Nintendo Music app for a better listening experience
Remember to pay for NSO Expansion and use the Nintendo Music app for a better listening experience
Anonymous
6/14/2025, 3:25:54 PM No.712631365
>>712631037
After just playing the game without gooning to an OST by itself you will actually agree to the contrary.
After just playing the game without gooning to an OST by itself you will actually agree to the contrary.
Anonymous
6/14/2025, 3:26:51 PM No.712631426
>>712621410 (OP)
thhe crazy thing was it was all a work for tendie sympathy they went for a basic mehakcuvd an the guy pop his bonce ronce the cornew and des his gona sasd ewrg
thhe crazy thing was it was all a work for tendie sympathy they went for a basic mehakcuvd an the guy pop his bonce ronce the cornew and des his gona sasd ewrg
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Anonymous
6/14/2025, 3:29:57 PM No.712631576
im having a lot of fun just driving around in free roam mode. feels like when i was a kid and could get fixated on various aspects of a game that weren’t the main feature.
they put a lot of care into this game.
they put a lot of care into this game.
Anonymous
6/14/2025, 3:39:25 PM No.712632110
>>712631426
Anon? Do you need me to call someone?
Anon? Do you need me to call someone?
Anonymous
6/14/2025, 3:46:26 PM No.712632515
>>712621410 (OP)
>ost has remakes
>NOOOOOO SOULLESS AND COMMERCIAL WHERE'S NEW THING
>ost doesn't have remakes
>NOOOOOO SOULLESS NEW THING BAD
>ost has remakes
>NOOOOOO SOULLESS AND COMMERCIAL WHERE'S NEW THING
>ost doesn't have remakes
>NOOOOOO SOULLESS NEW THING BAD
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Anonymous
6/14/2025, 3:47:35 PM No.712632596
>>712632515
Damn bro you real BTFO of that strawman
Damn bro you real BTFO of that strawman
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Anonymous
6/14/2025, 3:48:04 PM No.712632618
>>712632596
good morning saar
good morning saar
Anonymous
6/14/2025, 3:49:45 PM No.712632721
>>712631426
I'M CALLING 911
I'M CALLING 911