>>712629407Is she really a prostitute if she's only into (you) and doesn't charge?
>Toby makes a Chris Chan reference
>>712629424 (OP)>THE FLOWER MAN, TRAPPED IN ASLUME.
>>712629523The fact I immediately knew what piece of Chris Chan lore you're talking about without even having to think makes me disappointed in myself
>>712629520untouched and pure
>>712629605that just means youre likely one of the old fans who actually read the comic and aren't a modern fag who started watching youtube videos summerizing him after he came into the normie sphere in the 2020's
r-right, anon? right?
>>712629634what if gently patted
>is there a lore reason?
Goats eat moss. Kriss grew up around goats. Kriss imitates goats (remember the red horns?).
spoiler: the moss is the secret boss fight of CH5
and Kris has to eat it
>>712629698Unfortunately I am not a CWC oldfag but I didn't get into it from the youtube summaries
I just clicked around the wiki a shit ton
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We already have a janny-proof Deltarune thread
>>712628510
>>712629805yeah but that one is gonna be filled with bots
i do find it funny and simultaneously sad that that sorta shit is permitted but we literally cannot discuss a video game
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>>712629424 (OP)anyone have more of the nude of Temme Changs big Bwoopin Tiddies
>Half of Toriel porn is now Mom NTR.
Thanks Toby.
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op was that an obscure as all hell reference
>>712629661Whole conversation, faggot
>>712629870I always find it funny when these types give Kris Asian features just because their skin is a cartoony yellow
>>712629967Go back to the Sharty, underage, you're missing another shitt- I mean, totally EPIC raid on some unknown forum somewhere
>>712630018>The Dreemurr/Holiday parents tried pairing Kris and Noelle together because Asriel and Dess were a couple
>>712629967>>712629985These posters are brown.
>>712629424 (OP)>2 threads.Well, that's going to affect post momentum. Good job.
Everybody's going to flip their absolute shit in Chapter 5 I can feel it, everything's leading up to it
Chapter 4 being the calm before the storm in comparison is insane
>>712630171Not even close, she reminisces it
Why are there half a dozen deltarune threads up.
Are faggots creating extra threads in an effort to goad moderation into clamping down?
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>>712630313It was like this pre-janny melty. People are just retarded and don't check the catalog before making a new one.
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>>712630215They'll just last twice as long to prolong everyone's suffering.
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>>712629424 (OP)Sorry guys, you were all wrong. TEMMIE is 'the girl'.
>>712630313>people are stupidand
>stealth threads make it harder to find out if there's already a thread up before you make one
>>712630315that actually translates as "Whore Dickhead" if we go literal about it but knowing what retards browse these threads i wouldnt say that's far from what he intended
>>712630373I mean it'd be easier to find the thread if the janny melties didn't make it so you have to do the stealth shit
>>712630315Noelle's horsecock
>>712630373having to make stealth threads to avoid the ongoing mod tantrum and abuse is exacerbating it, people can't immediately spot existing threads because if they could, so could the baby raging janny
>>712630447>Horsecock>Horse...
>HorseAnon
You have ONE JOB
>>712630512The knight chess piece is a horse and her sister/mother is the Knight so it's close enough
this is going to be the next memespam isnt it?
>>712630393>Even Temmy singing in the classroom makes me tear up>Don't know why it hurts, but I might just be a pussy.Should I ask how come she knows the lyrics or is Temmy just in the same boat as the annoying dog
>>712630512I don't know how deer cocks work, man
For all I know, it's all horses
>>712630540So shouldn't Noelle's sister be the one with the horsecock? Don't get your wieners in a muddle
>>712630540>her sister/motherDidn't know that Deltarune was set in the South.
>>712630585Knight horsecock
I eagerly await Jackenstein's Castle Town interactions
>>712630576What if Susie doesn't eat caryons because she's just dumb and quirky, what if she's just not being fed at home, crayons are commonly edible and are sometimes eaten by malnourished kids because they have certain minerals in them that they're lacking
>>712629870This is by far the worst portrayal of Kris I have seen.
>>712630691Those are Kris's, the green crayons have the color on them named "Funkytown".
And no, you can't see it.
>>712630717>sitting between twink and normal guy instead of comitting to oneI think the artist took Gerson's advice too seriously
>>712630581Just for you I looked up deer penis just for you, their cocks are actually quite similar to that of a horse, similar biology, the sheath, the shape, not as flared and not nearly as large but the latter is subjective
>>712630762"The Roaring Knight Snowgrave" actually made me laugh
The Snowgrave being tacked on for no fucking reason is so stupid it's funny
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>>712630804>deer have a penis sheath>"sheath">like the sheath of a sword>the knight is a deer>sword penisDAMMNIT HUSSIE YOU DID IT AGAIN
>>712630804>Anon was looking up animal cocks "for the threads clarification"Yeah, and I'm sure your mouth wasn't watering you /k/ fuck
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>>712630905Do you realize making assumptions like that only raises questions about YOU in turn, anon?
>>712630894Could you create a dark fountain by fucking the earth if you were determined enough?
>>712630905/k/ is about deer pussy you fucking newfag
>>712630972a penis is just a long pussy
>>712630576Tem is the self insert for the main artist of these games.
>>712629424 (OP)Kris shags WATERCOOLERS
>>712629424 (OP)>Is there a lore reason?Reminder that Kris and Susie not eating anything is diagetic. You might think, "Well, surely they eat something off-screen." But they don't. Kris is only given a pie and pancakes to eat in three days. Dark world food literally does not count- it doesn't actually fill you up. Now that we know that monsters STILL turn to dust when they die, it means that Kris (and Susie) are unironically starving in a town full of niggers who don't normally need to eat and don't take it seriously.
>>712630889>Let me guess, you "need" more
>>712630967No, you just conceive an emperor
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Hrol
>>712631041So yeah, the annoying dog's situation
>>712631127They ate at the diner THOUGH
I've done snowgrave, now I'm planning on going back and doing a normal route/pacifist playthrough, but does that mean I'll need to miss out on the shadow mantle?
Also is there anything else I need to keep in mind to be thorough about it?
Still replaying ch1/ch2. The old knock off controller with yellow and pink buttons that Kris finds in chapter 3 can be seen twice. Once in chapter 1, with Kris being able to look under the bed and find a console + 2 controllers, one legitimate, one knock off.
The second time is a picture on Toriel's work computer, where it's revealed that it was Asriel, not Kris, who used the knock off controller.
Does this have any implications? Especially with how the controller is what allows you to experience Mantle (with Seam also being Asriel's creation and found as a shitty paint file on his PC)
>>712631127By implying that Susie needs to eat but monsters don't you're implying Susie is something other than a monster
>>712631127>Kris and Susie not eating anything>Kris is only given a pie and pancakes So they do eat stuff
And it's not diegetic, Kris is constantly eating off camera and so is Susie, maybe they're not eating enough but that's normal for moody teens
Dude there's a fucking diner and a restaurant and a supermarket in town, characters talk about food in the light world often, the pastor says Kris comes to church just to drink the funny juice, you're grasping as straws here
>>712631242The backstage game isn't considered part of Snowgrave despite alluding to it.
>>712631242Shadow mantle is achievable pacifist, but you still genocide through the s-rank game. It seemingly doesn't matter for the pacifist playthrough yet
So will chapter 1 susie just never be brought up again?
>>712631251I think it's simply that Asriel was the older brother and older bros often let their little siblings have the nicer controller, and it seems in Asriel's character to do so
Idk why you'd assume it was Kris', I immediately felt it must be Asriel's
There may be some analogy with it later on, but even strictly in and of itself it makes sense
>>712631242I doubt the mantle affects the pacifist playthrough
get the eggs since you can't get the ch2 one doing snowgrave
talk to mettaton in ch2 so you can give tenna to him in ch4
>>712631251Pink and yellow together clearly has some significance, though I'm not sure if the controller is pink and yellow because of that significance or if pink and yellow are significant because of the controller. It may be detailed more in chapter 5 seeing as chapter 5 of Lord of the Hammer involves a pink and yellow field.
>>712631406I wouldn't worry about it.
>>712631259She bled.
Monsters do not bleed.
>>712631390You'd assume Kris has the worse off situation because of the absolute state of their shared room.
Also, giving your sibling the shittier unplugged controller and pretend that they're playing is just as relevant.
>>712629523what is it referencing
>>712631343What is that supposed to mean? It's the same Susie in each chapter.
>>712631343You think she won't have a regressive meltdown when she finds out that Kris was lying to her too?
>>712631482>he doesn't know
>>712631464sans lirrily bled
>>712631479I don't think his situation was shit all the time, his parents clearly still cared for him, the state of his room isn't a sign he's being neglected, sure maybe he's not the super special super successful star child with all the trophies, but I don't think he's FORCED to live in squalor and only get garbage, it's likely mostly him just being disinterested in anything so he doesn't fill it up
Will she rape Susie in Chapter 5?
>>712631464She says everybody bleeds
The Warrior says his blood boils for battle
There's movies called Blood Crushers
>>712630390What're these hand edits called?
>>712631464>>712631528Monsters DO bleed regularly
They turn to dust when they DIE, that doesn't mean they don't have blood or bleed when they get injured, just that their DEATH is different
>>712631528Tomato sauce.
We have vastly more examples of monsters crumbling to dust upon death.
Examples of monsters not bleeding when fatally wounded.
Monsters are made of magic and dust.
Monsters do not bleed.
>>712631390I think you're more inclined to assume it's Kris' because it furthers the idea that he's the neglected, outcast of a younger brother, while Asriel comes across as the star of the family. That it's actually Asriel using it is just to show his kindness, seeing as it's obviously not the controller you'd want to use, and he could probably have the real one if he wants it, but he lets Kris have it.
>>712630806In this world, it's kris or be krised.
The way Wingman says "MY DELTARUNE" makes me shout "KINOOOOOOOOOO" everytime
>>712631406wasn't the controller pink and yellow because friend most likely dropped it there so you could play the game?
>>712631649Deltarune monsters could bleed AND dust
Hence why Toriel's house has a toilet, why the town hall guy talks about diapers, why Toriel doesn't use fire magic to cook and why Noelle says she wishes healing magic was a thing.
Maybe Deltarune's world is a world where monser eat food, go to the bathroom, bleed, cannot use magic, and dust upon death
>>712631610Then why does that one monster kid ask Kris what it's like to be made of blood?
Honestly, I'm starting to suspect that one was just an oversight, hard to tell with all the foreshadowing and legitimate clues all over the place though.
>>712631724good
keep smiling
>>712631649it's canon monsters can bleed, they crumble to dust when they die but they may bleed if injured non fatally
i think whether a monster bleeds or not also depends on the individual monster, it doesn't have to be all or none, maybe some montsers have blood and some don't
>>712631275>So they do eat stuffDumbass. What do you actually think what I said means? Actually try to describe what "Kris not eating is diagetic" means.
monsters don't bleed in undertale because they're darkners
>>712631343Will Noelle blog Kris ever be brought up again?
>Actively antagonizes Susie>Doesn't take her seriously at all>Gamer reflexes>Able to give simple destructive replies which instantly gets purple dinosaurs wet
>>712631724>comfort Ralsei
Behold
Ralsei Teddy Bear Schizochart 2!
This one's a lot weaker than the explicit teddy bear parallels, especially the connection between "overwriting the dark" and "recreating the world" but I can still see similarities between them.
The Undertale world can't be the dark world because in the end monsters go up to the surface and exist under the sun, UT is a different alt universe from DT, one where monsters are magical and actually divided from humans
However
>>712631787>monser eat food, go to the bathroomYou bring up a good point, because I recall in UT a monster said that human food is different than monster food because it "goes all the way through you" so it's possible monsters either have different biological functions in that reality, or that they simply make magical food that metabolizes differently
the latter seems likelier since Frisk can still eat monster food, if it was made for their unique biology it wouldn't be possible, however it may be different since it gives them instant health meaning it likely simply doesn't need to be digested but rather instantly turns into energy in the body without being separated into its' components
>>712629661>>712630018Is it true that if you wait for the whole conversation to finish, Kris stops trying to hit (you) ??
>>712632086new cursed art! :p
>>712632135Yeah Kris unironically stops and starts sobbing.
>>712632001when that option appeared in Katawa Shoujo, I didn't know that comfort also means sex so the H-scene randomly appearing surprised me
>>712631564She's too busy having fun on our date to spare a thought about Susie.
>>712631891No I get what you meant, I just pointed out they do in fact eat stuff so saying they don't is wrong, a person doesn't starve in 3 days on "just" an entire massive pie made for a whole family and a stack of pancakes
And then proceeded to explain, on a different note, how your theory that monsters don't need to eat and Kris and Susie are starving is false
>>712632149also cursed :p
>>712632193Ah. That's bullshit, but I believe it.
>>712631787> Talking about the presence of toilets> When discussing bloodAnon.
I'm being entirely serious.
Please go see a doctor.
>>712631390it's literally the opposite. If you have younger brothers it's easier to catch but you are supossed to believe it was Kris the one who used the knock off but the Asriel reveal is a nice and sweet twist that makes you realize how good of a brother he is
>>712632193>Kris realizes Noelle has zero interest in him and breaks down cryingToby is mean
>>712631464was it ever said that deltarune monsters don't bleed? or was that an undertale thing.
>>712632135Yeah, he just slumps over
>>712632226it doesn't
it literally doesn't "also" mean that unless it's simply implication, it's not a type of terminology
You'll save him, right anon?
>>712632265Notice how the anon I was responding to understood the point of me bringing that up.
>>712632297>zero interestAnon, I...
>>712632249And the sans problem solved! :p
>>712632265nta but come on, it's clear anon is talking about biological functions in general, if something bleeds it's assumed they ALSO eat, shit and so on
if you have blood, it must carry nutrients, and nutrients must come from food, and food must produce waste
>>712632193>>712632318Does he actually not try to hit you even if you get close to him?
Is there even anything explicitly saying monsters didn't bleed in Undertale?
Like yeah, they turn into dust and crumble apart when they die, but so do monsters in Deltarune.
>>712632397>Sans is a fur rugfor as cursed as this is, that's pretty funny
>>712632457It's what he would've wanted.
>>712630806>the world where kris was the favorite child
>>712632397As funny as the rug is.
Sans should have been turned into a piano.
>that chase on the tower just for some DogDollars
tell me, keeping all DogDollars will lead to something good, same for Glowshards
>>712632441Yes, he's just slumped over as both of them shut up
>>712632397>halo over rudy's headlol
>>712632256https://youtu.be/9mU4f-Z4c_Q?t=3344
animation starts at this timestamp
lil nigga is going through it...
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>>712632532he's smiling...
What was his major malfunction
>>712632532anon, the knight doesn't want you to know this, but she's weak to tongue attacks!
You think the weird route will mess up your other saves like what Geno did to pacifist in UT?
>>712632591Imagine being surrounded by hot monster girls but none of them like you.
>>712632591His mother is a fucking nightmare and nutcase that makes Livia from the sopranos look good by comparison
>>712632591He wanted that pie
>>712632193>>712632318Holy shit... poor dude
>>712632616Noelle is instrumental in getting the good ending
After Snowgrave she simply won't do the thing she needs to do in the critical moment
>>712632614Her element is DARK/STAR after all
>>712632456do more art like this
>>712632616Go ahead and fucking try me Toby.
I made copies of my save files in a different folder before playing Snowgrave and did it again before continuing Snowgrave in Chapter 3 to 4.
And I'm gonna do it again for 5.
I AM above consequences you little demon shit.
>When Susie complains about you putting the Ribbon on her, Ralsei think the soul is controlling Susie and looks directly at the player (not Kris, looking back on YOU)
HE KNOWS, HE KNOWS YOU KNOW, HE JUST PRETENDS NOT TO
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>>712632298nevermind, found this, thought this line was from undertale
>>712632591something about (You) pisses him the fuck off, so he likes messing with you at every opportunity
>>712632704So you're saying that she is of the night?
>>712632616I think there'll be some effect. If Undertale was his test run for Deltarune, it would make sense for him to have wanted to get some experience with messing with save files in ways most games don't on that test run for a reason.
>>712632591he's stuck with a soul thats always making him look even more like an autist or busting his balls
or trying to kill/rape his friends
>>712632789>Fly around his face to piss him off while he's drinking chocolate milkheheh
>>712629870OOUGGH HYMEN TEARING BED BREAKING BRAIN SHATTERING NAKADASHI SEX WITH SUSIE
>>712632794you're never surpassing the REAL DARKSTAR
>queen was supposed to represent carol
>queen and Kris form a uneasy truce
>queen likes how Kris โdoesnโt have opinionsโ
>>712632839Finally I can live out my lifelong dream of being a mosquito
>>712632763What's the little twink gonna do about it?
I drew the gremlin piece of cloth.
Can (you) stick it in before the bomb goes off?
>>712632775so it's this one line, spoken by a singular monster child, which made people think ALL monsters don't bleed? isn't it more likely that this one is a type that simply doesn't?
>>712632821>inb4 UT save interact with DR>You have to return to UT to do something extremely specific>Toby doesn't talk about it and make a fake patch note for UT to hide the feature
>>712629424 (OP)Stop avoiding my filters you fucking PIECES OF SHIT
Get better taste plebs
>>712632871I'm gonna be plain with you...
>>712632921a cloak is fine too
>>712632923He's a rabbit kid according to later dialogue with Susie
It could unironically just be that he's a fucking idiot
>>712632921where'd you get the font from?
>>712632957>>712632921Stop lusting after a cloak
>>712632945in a battle royale between the 3, who wins?
>>712632265No, it's gotta just be a hemorrhoid.
>>712632960rabbits don't bleed irl, why would monsters based on them bleed?
or, agreed, he could just be a kid so he doesnt' know much
>>712632876>queen just wanting to laze around and play video games with kris all day
>>712632591Imagine being surrounded by hot monsters girls but the only way you can get close to them is playing make believe with a fucking power strip.
>>712632876>triple trucies
>>712632876queen represents carol and toriel, we just didn't know it during chapter 2
notice how queen just likes drinking heavily and having fun while ignoring her children's issues
remind you of any scene in particular?
>>712633023Whoever manages to pilot the plane, I suppose. It's not about the plane after all, it's about the pilot.
>>712632921man at this rate i'm gonna have to make a mantle folder
what's so sexy about this goddamn cloak to you guys
I coomed (spiritually) (I am into the emotional abuse and mistreatment, not the rape)
>>712633154I want Kris to save Noelle from (You) and make her wetter than Niagara Falls
>>712632987It's a font called Romulus I found in a google search.
It's locked behind a Deviantart login, but I snagged it from the DL link on this site: opengameart (.) org (/) content (/) pixel-fonts-by-pix3m
But it's not actually the in-game font. Just similar.
>>712633150For me it's cute, laugh and orb.
>>712632960>>712633039Or...
It means that monsters don't bleed.
>>712632679>>712632318>>712632193You know what this means right?
Toby wants Kris to suffer. Kris is not trying to ship Susie and Noelle. Kris knows he will be alone in the end and just wants someone he cares about to love him.
Meaning for as "canon" this lesbo relationship is, it isn't what Kris wants, and if there isn't just one end to the story-- Kris will still have that hope.
In the mean time however, we suffer with him; or make him suffer more for our own curiosity.
>>712633160susie is a real one
>>712633131>the positive parts of her are carol along with the parts that REALLY like kris hurhur>the negative parts of her are toriel's dialed up a little since they're based on the exaggerated negative memories of her that kris, noelle and dess had as kidstoby's told us everything about the families just through CH2...
>>712633135she's the one piloting it
phew, this was a real rabbithole, there's too many characters named that
>>712633043>king on your side, queen on her side, tenna in the backI'm surprised King doesn't blow up at Kris more directly, you'd think he'd have personal resentment against him but it seems more like generalized Lightner hate.
>>712633332maybe I'd be his friend if he were to tell me what's actually going on instead of randomly trying to kill himself
>>712633295but we SAW monsters bleed
what's more likely, that a kid doesn't know something and asks dumb questions, and/or that only some monsters bleed, or that they don't bleed except when they regularly do because we saw it happen?
>>712633332I love but also hate what Toby does berween the two.
Post the video of Ralsei looking at (you)
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chapter 1 to 4 is happening in a span of 4 days btw
>>712633712There's gonna be so many callbacks to Chapter 1 Susie when she finds out Kris has been hiding shit and helping the knight this whole time
Deltarune ending has just been leaked this is not a drill
>>7126337123, actually.
Day 1 (Thursday): chapter 1
Day 2 (Friday): chapter 2 and 3
Day 3 (Saturday): chapter 4
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>>712633592this is all I have
>>712633857guess it's time to pull out my inner /k/fag
>>712633712My only defense to this is that spiritual character development seems accelerated by dark worlds. Berdly and Noelle go through full arcs in ch2 but it largely doesn't "stick" after leaving the light world. But Kris & Susie keep adventuring down there
>>712633332Kris distances himself from Noelle on purpose
It can be from guilt/trauma, from wanting to protect her by not getting her involved and/or maybe more
Noelle does want to reapproach but is too spineless herself to do practically anything
Mooooooods
Moooooooods
They are discussing vidya
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>>712629424 (OP)Kris eats moss because deer eat moss and Dess taught him to do so
Moss is actually toxic to humans
i dont believe in (you)elle, she's probably thanking (you) for letting her get close to kris again, despite ut mainly being (you)
>>712633332Yeah but I've been trying to help this little faggot get with Susie or Noelle but he keeps stopping me every time.
>>712633857Whatโs the appropriate response if this happens
>>712632193>found a narrative way of ensuring the play can proceed in case they found the puzzle too hardToby can be pretty damn good at that sort of thing.
>>712630576Temmie has your eggs donโt think too much about the character
>>712634063Inform her I'm not a hebe and to fuck off for like five years
>>712633712That's why it's going to hurt for these characters when it's over
these might be the best. most impactful moments of their lives, and it will have only been for a few days. Most fond times you have weeks, or months repeating the sensation. Especially if the dark worlds are gone for good by the end of the game, it will be a magical high you will never be able to go back to.
No wonder susie wants it to never end
>>712634063https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3JKOw8DGbE
>>712634095>Someone might make you disappear.Uh oh...
>>712634040Not true, some types of moss are edible to humans
>>712634063you accept your new doe wife, of course!
You don't get to choose otherwise.
>>712632238>I get what you meantNo you don't. You seem to believe that I'm blacking out all the moments where they do eat.
By saying, "Yeah they eat off-screen." you unironically do not understand what "diagetic" fucking means. You straight up do not understand the DEFINITION of the word being discussed here.
The point is that in chapter one and two when you control Kris from when he wakes up to when he goes to sleep, and he doesn't eat anything. That's real. That's what's happening. There is no gaming abstraction separating us from the events actually happening. There is no, "Well obviously the characters can't stop to eat because it would break up the gameplay so it's just implied." No, there's some strict attention being taken to when Kris (and Susie) are able to get some actual food.
>Monsters don't need to eatThey don't. Toriel doesn't seem too mad about her pie being the only thing she cooked all day and Kris eating it all without her.
The flame girl still eats logs.
Noelle doesn't seem weirded out by Susie eating chalk as though she's surrounded by weirdo fucking monsters who eat fucking whatever the fuck. This is directly compared to the aforementioned log thing where the tranny lion goes, "So you girls will have... etc... and... firewood?... How would ya like that done, hon?" It gives you the slightest lapse of, "Oh, this must be strange." But no, monsters still eat just whatever the fuck.
>>712632825>making him look even more like an autist Nah, with a decent look at how Kris acts when we don't control him he's definitely better off with us in him. As Queen says, with us, Kris has "Chill Vibes".
how likely is it that the ending has the darkworld and darkners all just fucking die
>>712634095>"You'll realize how happy your mom was without you.">And then this scene happens,>Looking back, Kris probably said, "She was."
>>712634245>You don't get to choose otherwise.Haha imagine if like went insane and then she raped (you) for revenge that'd be crazy... lol...
>>712634046>anon doesn't TRVST THE PLANngmi
>>712634132>Girl wants to be with you>You are clearly interested, as per "-for five years" implying you'll permit it when she's older>Understandable>Except instead of being with her for those five years, you tell her to fuck off and come crawling back to you laterAnon what the fuck is preventing you from just being her friend or making a promise to her? What, scared of the faggots who call any friendship that blossoms into a relationship "grooming" or something?
>>712629424 (OP)why don't they just rape the goat? rape is canon.
>>712634307they're just gonna be stuck as objects technically
>Kris already knows how to make dark fountains
>Susie learned how to make dark fountains from queen
>Noelle on none weird route also heard how to make one
A hospital dark world doesn't seem farfetched. The way it looks would depend heavily on Noelle's mental state between the regular route and weird route if she tried to save Rudy before he became full dust. Weird route version may make rudy come back wrong like that gerson statue with susie.
>>712634046With a mindset like this you will always be alone
>>712634307Unlikely. Tonally I can't imagine the ending being any worse than bittersweet. There are grim aspects to the game, but to end in abject misery wouldn't be in keeping with the tone at all, and it would also make all of Gerson's hope for Susie for naught, which I don't see happening.
>>712631127Reminder that Kris and Susie not pissing and shitting is diagetic. You might think "Well, surely they pissed and shitted off-screen." But they don't. Kris only flushes bath bombs down the toilet. Dark world food literally does not count- it doesn't actually fill you up with piss and shit. Now that we know that monsters STILL turn to dust when they die, it means Kris (and Susie) are unironically not pissing and shitting in a town full of niggers who don't normally need to piss and shit and don't take it seriously.
>>712634307>only then will the WORLDS (not world) be savedvery unlikely
>>712634449I don't want (You)elle you cur.
>>712634328I think he said "You too."
>>712634373I don't take loyalty for granted. If she wants me, great. But for those five years she should figure out if she really wants a fat balding 32 something boomer to take her into the most mundane world possible full of humans and rape.
Being friends would be cool though.
>>712634373It'd be hot if she came back after getting fucked by other guys
>>712632634>none of them like youPretty much all of them like him, from childhood friends, to school bullies, to little shota boys, to milfs, to queens, and everyone in between
>>712634546But no sex, so it don't matter
>no party music kino like Mother 1 where OST changes from Pollyana to Being Friends
damn of all people i would have expected that from Toby
>>712632634Kris isn't berdly.
>>712634376goatboy too strong
>canonically three slaps statue-gerson
How legendary will the crashout be?
>>712631127I agree with you, but
>>712634482 does make a good point
i think using the bathroom is just one of those things nobody really wants to think about, while food is a lot more important. if you're going to have a largely uninterrupted view on someones life, you're fine with seeing what they eat but you probably don't want to see them pinching logs for 20 minutes because they're constipated, nor even have it be implied
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>>712634537Fuck off toby.
>>712632591Adopted
Divorced parents
Whore mother
Pathetic father
Living in the shadow of his brother
His brother dating the girl he had a crush on, admired, and emulated (Dess)
Dess going missing and it being his fault
His only remaining childhood friend grew distant
Losing his hand
Losing his soul
Possibly murdering someone (chapter 4 egg room)
It would he weirder if he wasnโt a nutcase
>>712633592Here you go. Save it, spread it around, so all know that Ralsei is a Freedom Schizo.
>>712634620Statue Gerson might have just been weak, Kris and Susie don't get a chance to hit it at all.
>>712634432>A hospital dark world doesn't seem farfetched.It would completely shit on the "escapism" motif people had latched onto.
>>712634095so there are lot of off screen past bullying and we just accept susie like that?
>>712634373Noellefags, this is your mindset.
>>712634682when I was in the hospital I would have fucking loved to escape from it
>>712634546>all of them like younot anymore
>>712634307I think all Dark Worlds outdide of Ralsei's Castle Town are going to be destroyed. The ending is going to be akin to Undertale's neutral route where it's the same ending, but recontextualized depending on whom or how many were recruited
>>712631127>"who don't normally need to eat">Multiple mouseholds have toilets. Asgore is literally cleaning one in Chapter 4, implying it gets regular use.
>>712634595chapter 4 proves he could've easily rizzed up noelle if he just pushed her 1 cm
FULL approval from both her mother and dad too
>>712634620you 3-hit into lost most enemies to be fair, it's just that susie refused to attack him (and didn't let kris do it either)
>>7126343070% because I WILL protect my darkner tradwife (male) no matter what
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>>712633971>>712634095>there were times when I wasn't even sure if we were friends>Body Kris was Noelle's childhood friend>Soul Kris is into Susie more, and didn't really know Noelle that well (didn't even know Rudy's name)>Weird Route is basically you raping your brother's childhood friend in front of themJesus christ this is fucked up.
>>712634640>His brother dating the girl he had a crush on, admired, and emulated (Dess)>crushCome on, don't try to be sneaky over your headcanon
>>712634284>No you don't.Yes I do, me saying they do eat is unrelated to me understanding that you imply they only eat on screen, I'm pointing out that they do in fact eat.
>"Yeah they eat off-screen." you unironically do not understand what "diagetic" fucking means. I do, I'm saying you're wrong
You said this object is black, I said it's white, your response is "but white isn't black, so you don't get what black means" when it should be "oh you're DISAGREEING with me about it being black, ok" I'm disagreeing, I'm not saying "it's diegetic" "correct, it's offscreen", I'm saying "It's diegetic" "no, it's offscreen"
>The point is that in chapter one and two when you control Kris from when he wakes up to when he goes to sleepand 1. we know Kris eats when you're not controlling him, there have been many monsters he puts the soul away and goes offscreen, in a few of them, to eat, and 2. That's not his whole life, we've only seen him onscreen for those 3 days so far, your argument is based on the assumption that he's starving his whole life because monsters don't eat.
>"Well obviously the characters can't stop to eat because it would break up the gameplay so it's just implied."I didn't say that, I said what I meant clearly, he eats offscreen when we're not controlling him, and likely ate often in the past.
>>Monsters don't need to eat>They don't. They do, and they eat.
> Toriel doesn't seem too mad about her pie being the only thing she cooked all day and Kris eating it all without her.1. Toriel rarely gets mad at Kris for long, she's mad, but she forgives him as always.
2. Who said she didn't eat anything else? What, is HER eating diegetic too?
>The flame girl still eats logs.So they do eat. That's eating. It gives her energy ergo it's food.
>Noelle doesn't seem weirded out by Susie eating chalk as though she's surrounded by weirdo fucking monsters who eat fucking whatever the fuck. BECAUSE SHE IS, BUT IT'S STILL FOOD IF YOU EAT IT AND IT'S EDIBLE.
>>712634642>There's no fucking way (you) already jumped bodies, right?Ralsei is 100% going to have a gigantic mental breakdown once the SOUL is properly unveiled to the party,I'm looking forward to it.
>>712634095>immediately thinks about how to get closer to Susie instead of worrying about her friendwhat a bitch
>>712634307Unlikely, as it was said it's the WORLDS that will be saved.
But it's possible they'll be cut off from each other forever, and Kris and Susie will never see Ralsei again.
>>712634719oh hey it's the faggots anon was talking about
>>712634063>uhm that just happened
>>712634798If only you knew how bad things really are...
>>712634338You have to be a serious bottom bitch to want Noelle to rape you (based)
>>712634682chapter 4 is already in the "you can't escape reality" phase and rudy dying is almost guaranteed.
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>>712634284>>712634851>This is directly compared to the aforementioned log thing where the tranny lion goes, obsessed lol, >"So you girls will have... etc... and... firewood?... How would ya like that done, hon?" It gives you the slightest lapse of, "Oh, this must be strange." But no, monsters still eat just whatever the fuck.Seriously do you not know what food is? It doesn't need to be human food in order to be food, it just needs to be edible, monsters eat, fire monsters eat logs, other monsters eat pie, why would Susie be interested in a pie if monsters don't eat?
Your biggest and stupidest assertion so far was that monsters don't need to eat, but somehow you're implying Susie isn't a monster. Why have a PIZZA PLACE? What is pizza if not HUMAN FOOD?????
So what now, when is the part where you slip into ego-protective irony, and suddenly go "didn't read lmao don't care never cared actually"?
>>712634640>Living in the shadow of his brotherKris was the cooler one faggot
>>712634973ur right but stop being mean to him
>>712634880She does at first but then horny completely overrides any survival instinct
Like a deer rushing into traffic lights
>>712634284>>712634851DIDN'T read any of that btw
>>712634482Kek.
>>712634629Sure sure. It's a meme but you know what it's actually true. You could say this about anything we don't see them do.
But again, the narrative is literally pointing a spotlight on this specific point. One of Susie's literal DEFINING character traits is that she's always hungry and always eating weird shit because she's hungry. Kris doesn't eat anything all day then ravenously devours a pie. Kris comes home at 2 AM and finds out there's no food in the fridge besides a bottle of ketchup. Outside of any player control, outside of even my argument about what you really experience, these are things which objectively happen.
>>712631705Gaster being a canon fanficCHAD is based.
>>712635031I-I'm sorry...
>>712635032god I wish Asgore ran her over with his truck instead of Dess
>>712631127This is a sound theory if you just ignore
>Kris feasts on an entire Pie and has a Hot Chocolate at QC's Diner>Has confirmed to have gone there to eat several times with family>Can eat Undyne's gift chocolate with Susie>Susie worfs down a boatload of pancakes>Every house we've entered so far has a toiletThe only actual thing of merit is that Susie might genuinely be starved if everyone's assumptions of her family life is correct.
>>712634095this is just for the sake of setting up suselle by the way
Do you think Toby regrets making King such a forgettable villain? He's seemingly the only major villain to not show up in the prophecy which makes him feel forgotten.
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>>712634952>The inevitable piano playing scene between Susie and Kris will break Noelle's fucking heart. There's only one piano big enough to seat two people.
>>712632397We love Sans here.
>>712635138He's still in the prophecy if you take Gerson's dialogue as fact.
>>712635107>Kris feasts on an entire Pie and has a Hot Chocolate at QC's Diner>Has confirmed to have gone there to eat several times with family>Can eat Undyne's gift chocolate with Susiewhat a fatass
>>712635210I just meant the prophecy murals you see.
>>712632591Being a terrible partner. Knight's bitch.
>>712634307I think it's clear enough that there's some light Shintoist animism going on in Deltarune where objects have some sort of innate essence that still exists even without a Dark Fountain or anything. Not a living soul or anything, but some spiritual energy. The darkness allows that to be shaped into a physical form, but I don't think it creates it out of nothing but the fountain creator's determination. The Darkners in Susie's Dark World know things she doesn't.
>>712634970>>712634682>Rudy dies>Noelle is distraught>somehow learned about Gerson and how dead lightners are revived in dark worlds>opens up a light world to keep her father alive>THREE HEROES APPEARED TO BANISH THE ANGELS HEAVEN
>>712635138he's had a unique scene for nearly every chapter so far. him and lancer hanging out was cute.
>>712635052The susie characterization is one of the main reasons I hope monsters can eat, her eating random shit is a good mix of kind of tragic but also funny (since she's so unbothered and enthused by it)
the narrative would be worse if it was just her being silly for the sake of it
>>712635217I think there's some weird shit going on whenever Kris removes the soul. He must expend fuckloads of energy whenever we're gone.
>>712635217he's one of those short guys with turbometabolisms, dude would absolutely eat all of my nutty buddies without a hint of remorse
>>712634970>new chapter releases>Rudy is looking worse than ever>Noelle panics and makes a dark world in the hospital to try and save him>chapter ends with a tearful goodbye as we close the fountain
>>712632135I don't think he was sobbing. I think he was just catching his breath. You can't tell from that angle.
>>712635118It fucking sucks if that's the whole reason.
>>712635107>Susie worfs down a boatload of pancakesdon't forget the mention of infinite omelettes
>>712634801It might be my headcanon but Kris definitely emulates Dess more than Asriel. He plays the piano, but doesnโt have one at home. He plays the guitar, he is a gremlin collecting random shit and we learn that Dess used to be scary, which Kris also seems to have adopted. She showed him inappropriate music videos and so clearly didnโt just hang out with Asriel alone. It also doesnโt make sense for only Kris to be involved in her disappearance if they didnโt have a close enough friendship to do stuff alone. Otherwise Asriel would be involved in her disappearance as well
>>712635107Don't forget
>Downs a bottle of chocolate milk in Noelle's house on-screen all by himself
>>712634952>Noelle wants to jump Body Kris's bones>Body Kris can't bring themselves to tell her the truth about them and SOUL Kris>Noelle is starting to move on to Susie>Body Kris sets up the plot of the game, basically using the Dark Worlds to DM a live action roleplay campaign for their sibling and Susie to pair them off so they can keep Noelle>Shit gets out of hand when Undyne shows up and recognizes Dess, who they'd brought in to play the main villain>So they've got a cop in the basement and they can't let her go or she'll tell that bitch Carol where her runaway daughter is>Then their brother rapes their love interest>Then the prophecy they thought would just be flavour (it's not like it's about US right?) turns out to be deadly serious and about them>Then they get home and find their mom is being boned by Sans Undertale, ruining any chance for their parents to get back together>Then, tomorrow at the festival, Noelle will kiss Susie or the other Kris>and they're going to fucking lose itCHAPTER 5
THE FIELD OF PINK AND GOLD
THE FLAMES OF JEALOUSY WILL BURN THE WORLD
>>712635138>forgottenHe still gets new unique dialogue and he's started warming up a bit.
KING'S redemption is coming.
ASGORE'S redemption is coming.
WILL YOU [Investment] IN THEIR [Stocks]?
>>712634851>I'm pointing out that they do, in fact, eatYou're doubling down on some stupid shit and then patting yourself on the back. This alone makes it worthless to actually fucking talk to you. You're an actual retard. This isn't "White isn't black" it's the fact I'M TALKING ABOUT WHITE NOT BLACK. Kill yourself man.
>>712634973>ObsessedSeething for no reason. Lol tranny.
>>712635048Based.
So really, what is Asgore big secret? the bumbling idiot is clearly him pretending so that people think he's an idiot(though he probably does miss Toriel and want to be a better father to Kris)
>>712635118They've been setting up suselle since chapter 2
>>712634880That is why the blog ends with Kris slamming the locker door in her face
>>712629424 (OP)Oh cool, tranny general, aren't there like 3 of these already?
>>712635373I expect he'll keep getting dialogue on the level that he's been getting, but he does feel like the most insignificant boss and I don't expect that to change, which I guess makes some sense given he's the first one.
>>712635418Can you find all of them?
>>712632921Damn, anon, I love the way you drew the tongue, super meaty. Got any more?
>>712634995Sure but Asriel was more popular and beloved. I mean their fucking room speaks for itself
>>712635418>>712635459Hint, there's at least TWO stealth ones.
>>712635284>Kris and Susie absolutely cannot bring themselves to close it.>They have to promise Rudy that they'll look after his angel when he's gone, that Susie fills the hole left in her heart from Dess's disappearance, and Kris goes back to what they used to be.
>>712635390Asgore knows about the Dark World and what happened to Dess but despite being cool enough to get a black shard from the ordeal everyone thinks he's batshit insane, leading to him losing everything. He's now a true schizochad.
>>712633332Poor Kris. He deserves it, though.
>>712635385Are you this unpleasant in all parts of life or just when communicating with people?
>>712635530Everyone except Carol.
>>712632397>Sans as a rugOkay nigger you're actually funny, made me spit my drink
>>712634801do you actually stick around just to say 'headcanon' to things you disagree with? because i'm starting to wonder
>>712635457I believe in him. Castle town isn't stockpiling all those major characters and recruits for nothing.
Finally, the incels are here I'm sure they can agree yuri love is the purest
There's not really a way to say this without sounding a little psychotic, but Deltarune made me want to start a family and raise kids.
>>712635138He is willing to speak to you in chapter 4 and he will also end up getting the most scenes out of any villain by virtue of being the first
I wouldnโt say he is forgotten he gets a good amount of content and his redemption seems to be on the way
>>712635353Let me stop you right there, again.
>He plays the guitarHe doesn't, (You) do. Even Susie comments that while you play nicely, it just looked like Kris was going through the motions.
>Dess used to be scary wat. Nowhere it says that, just that she was rebellious and on the tomboy side, it's the typical stereotype of (mostly) proper family with the black sheep wanting to break off the mold, Kris just liked being a pranking little shit around Noelle.
>didn't just hang out with Asriel aloneTrue enough, though it wasn't just the three, Noelle wasn't left out.
>>712634063Push her back and bring in the cute humans instead.
>>712633332>Toby wants Kris to suffer.Well someone pointed out that Tobert Tobertson is literally making a game about (His) childhood and I have yet to see it be DISPROVEN so it's very likely we're literally just walking through setpieces of his real actual trauma
>>712635556a lot of people are on 4chan not because they came here but because no where else wanted them
What is her major malfunction?
>>712635619sure
now go and make babies
>>712635663She just wants to come across as hardcore like Susie but she's trying too hard.
>>712635569>literally keeps a katana next to the bedman she's chuuni as fuck
>>712635645way to get the thread jannied faggot
>>712635692still can't believe catti BETRAYED her fellow summoner like that
>>712635663Having to keep shit inside and put on a nice girl front due to an abusive mother.
>>712635610When people do try to push headcanon shit for the sake of shipping, specially when it's an excuse for their own fetishes , then yes I'll pull the brakes and not people poison the well.
>>712635739Not just chuuni, she knows about Dark Worlds.
Rudy's getting cucked by a sword.
>>712635569Implying Carol isn't just keeping him around to make sure he doesn't get any further than schizotheories and a single shard of glass.
>>712635657That's kind of fucked up considering. Is Toby trying to pull an LCDem?
In weird route Noelle will kill Rudy to "get stronger", and this will absolutely break Asgore (since he also will have to fight his son)
Does anything outside of the scene itself change when Ralsei asks you to think of someone while Susie's talking to Gerson? He clearly goes off to do do something while you're thinking of someone else, and you'd think it would be breaking more of the prophecy glasses, but it doesn't seem to change anything whether he goes or not.
>>712635764>abusive mother.so is that just some fanon stuff or do people conflate "tough" with "abusive"?
Hey wasn't there a segment where ralsei sounded a little bit like asriel for like 2 seconds. Can't find it
I remember when I had theories about us never having Kris eat anything back during chapter 1 and 2, it's funny seeing people take the theory seriously now.
>>712635663Being just as psychotic as Dess and her mother but being forced to hide it and play a โnice, hardworking daughter that behavesโ
>>712633131>queen represents the mom>tenna represents the dads
>>712635831he just couldn't find anymore
What is the objective of the knight faction?
>>712635852I think it's when he has Susie's blood on him.
>>712635837If you dont let your teenage daughter open an only fans when she turns 13 you are abusive now
How come Carol never visits Rudy?
>>712633150Reminder thatโs Asriel and not Ralsei
(Black horns + heโs literally on his computer in his and Krisโ Room)
>>712635390He just has a goofy dad persona that comes out when things are chill and a serious persona when there's important shit that needs done and he needs to step up. Doesn't mean the bumbling one is fake.
>>712635643We know Dess used to be scary since Noelle has a complex for her sister. What does Noelle like about Susie? That she is scary.
>>712635657I'll cry for him if his bully cucked him out with the prim and proper religious childhood friend
>>712634307I can't see us going through all the trouble to recruit all those darkners every chapter only for it to have zero payoff.
>>712635873>tenna represents the dads>tenna can dieuh oh
>>712635138I still like that fat fuck, even if I was disappointed with him becoming goofy in Chapter 2. Him treating Tenna as a clown was based.
>>712635927https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UaODzHmJbU4
>>712634546yeah, after you get possessed
>>712635873What does King represent?
>>712635786then i'm gonna be honest with ya here, you're not actually doing anything other than making yourself look like a tard
because no one's gonna stop believing what they're believing just because you told them it was headcanon, in case you didn't realize half of us are coming up with schizo theories baked FROM headcanons it ain't just the shippers working with ideas they've thought up in their head
it's like the classic thing of going into a thread and saying "erm, you know they're not real right?", you're not saying anything revolutionary you just look like an asshole
>>712635824It's obvious our inputs have not much effect, Kris is going to forever be his own big gay bitch and we're just spectating his undeserved and sometimes well-deserved misery
Being inside the cuck cage at night is no symbolism, it is quite literal
>>712636017The uncle that throws liquor bottles at you
>>712635569>>712635530Asgore, Carol and Dess will be shizoboss version of our party, calling it now
Carol is the Girl, Asgore is the cage (in undertale he planned to use human souls to free monsters) and Dess is prince alone in deepest dark
>>712635927Her work as the mayor and for the knight is more important
>>712635643>Going through the motionsNote this means, without any interpretation, that he knows how to play the guitar.
>watDess wasn't scary, but she loved scary things. She'd watch horror movies all night and made Noelle join her. She ran a horror and cryptid-sightings blog.
>Noelle was there tooThe point being that Dess was as much of a big sister to Kris as she was to Noelle.
>>712634095Where are these from?
>>712635974I mean, the 'payoff' is going to be Asriel or Toriel turning on the lights in the supply closet and finding all the crap you've been hoarding, and then throwing it away for maximum emotional damage.
The shape of this narrative is fairly clear at this point now that it's past the halfway mark
>>712636043>retarded shipper tantrumNot beating the tranny allegations
>>712635390Asgore is know as the townโs lunatic. The flower man, trapped in an asylum.
>>712633150He's a teaser. Teasers are great in bed
>>712636116acting like that's not gonna help you either
Last night I had a dream that it was revealed that Asgore sacrificed Dess because 'someone' told him it was either her or Kris
>>712635853Passive aggressive.
>>712635974It's silly to say but this was the "Toby has outdone himself" part of the release for me. Absolutely fucking psychotic and hilarious.
Also, when you recruit whichever of the couple isn't at lover's peak, they say "I'll try anything once" lmao.
>SO THAT'S NOT ACTUALLY HOW IT WORKS. >WE HAD A TALK, AND THAT'S NOT HOW IT WORKS.
>>712635951She got the scary thing from Kris. She sees both Kris and Dess in Susie
>All recruits route leads to the strongest Susie
>Snowgrave/Weird leads to the strongest Noelle
>Twisted Sword leads to the Strongest Kris/Vessel/YOU
>True route has all three routes converge together against the final boss.
Would it be kino?
>>712635951That's a massive leap right there, what she appreciated and maybe even envied was how free she was in comparison, it's what sticks out from the group of 4 childhood friends. Noelle, which now I'll outright say it as it stands on the headcanon, envied the amount of freedom Dess had but not to the point of ill-will, just that she wished on being more like her.
>>712632149I can't believe the naruto autists were right...
>>712636185asgore salt route
>>712636112Look up Spamton Sweepstakes, it's on the official Deltarune site
>>712636017The โbad guyโ
>>712635748Seethe, proto-janny.
>>712636226>You really do need to do everything to get the best ending Yes
>>712636196>they say "I'll try anything once" lmaohow is this funny exactly?
>>712636226>The final boss is just the annoying dog>It dies in one hit and the game crashesyes very kino
>Asriel comes back in chapter 7
>joins you in the dark world for the final battle
>sees Ralsei
>stops the fight to have rough and violent sex with him for 20 minutes straight
King is Asgore, Queen is Toriel
>>712636070Not the most insane theory i read, but unless asgore finds and kills another human i don't see how he could fit
Unless he will attempt to kill kris
>>712632397I laughed
>>712632456this looks amazing!
>>712636286Really tryhard image but it also goes hard. It's like superpositioned outside the horseshoe of cringe.
with all this rape discourse its funny how no one seems to give attention to the fact that he successfully removed us before, and he removed us right afterwards to shove into a trash can and beat up, but for some reason he didnt do so when we intervened with the deer, and also that the deer seems to regain some conciousness after getting thorned.
The big plot twist is that she isnt the one who gets mindbroken - that already happened in 2 and the ring here didnt do jackshit (putting it on just solidified her belief into the "dream"). Now the little soulless fucker is the one who is about to be mindbroken through our shenanigans, and he willingly went with our idea to PROCEED.
>>712636043That's not going to stop me either from people poisoning the well over retardation, I don't give a rat's ass on how people will perceive me as since it's an anonymous image board on the first place, I'm not here to have a face and gloat about what I said or did, I just want people to not mash headcanon with canon and pretend it's as written, when anyone outside comes by thinking it's what actually happens much like deer metaphorical rape which led to some people rounding threads for the sake of it.
Retarded nigger.
>>712636226Don't forget weakening Ralsei as much as possible by denying him opportunities to scheme
>>712636286not sure how to feel about forcing 'mike' in there personally, shit's creepy enough as is without jamming in the photorealistic microphone
>tfw you're making friends with everyone and Kris knows he's going to have to betray them eventually
>>712635623I do not share these feelings but I think I understand it.
Deltarune feels like a very personal game, the focus on this specific kind of childhood experience, all the nostalgic imagery, it goes over the toys, the technology, and the individual moments these kids had together before life beat them all down and separated them. and now you get to see them grow, enjoy both the fantasy and real life together, and to reclaim that spark missing in their lives. It's inspiring to see the young struggling and finding happiness and success despite the odds. By default, human instincts want to raise children in the hopes they will experience the fond memories we have, but ideally, better. This realistic recreated nostalgia focused on a cast of younger characters is probably hitting the same part of your brain that makes you want to have kids when you have a positive experience and bond with a child irl, like a niece or nephew or if you have to babysit a coworkers kids.
Creating a work of art with the intent of passing on your nostalgia to others is one of the ways a human can pass their legacy on besides reproduction.
Toby fox impregnated you.
>>712636373>Asgore's fight in MANTLE is him and the seven flowers who constantly shoot at you>Kill Asgore and the flowers all die
>>712636324It's a phrase than can also mean a kind of sexual openness in English. Particularly in the context of a seemingly straight person kissing the same sex, for example. "Make out with another dude? Eh, I'll try anything once."
>>712636167When are they adding my nigga Tenna to Tekken
could the snowgrave route be retroactively justified once we find out something in a future chapter? because it's a bit strange how you can be a goody two-shoes the entire rest of the route, if it was just an evil route for the sake of it then it'd be weird that you can still do that
like maybe asgore and rudy fucking die in a dark world because of noelle and kris's lack of strenght to fight against someone or something that is preventing them from healing/saving them, and snowgrave is all just set-up to prevent that
>>712635623Anything that makes you want to do that is good.
>>712636417More than anything it really seems like Kris wants to keep it a secret that (you) exist. More than he wants to stop you from raping Noelle and more than he wants to stop you from choosing all the shittiest most cringe options. He just can't let anyone find out about (you).
>>712636461curious how you focused on the 'unimportant' part about people's perceptions of you and not the more important thing that you're not actually even doing anything
>>712636417I figured that Kris can only remove the soul when (you) least expect it, and during >Proceed. (you were on high alert to stay in control.
>>712636227If its a leap why did Noelle want to her Susie play Dessโs guitar
>>712636475Before chapter 4 released, people speculated that Mike was IMAGE FRIEND based off the website ARG. We had no idea Mike was just Tenna's lighting operator who was also friends with Spamton.
>>712636226I tend to dislike it when routes converge into one like that, it takes the identity away from each individual route.
>>712636589Possibly, since the SOULs main intent with it seems to be making Noelle specifically STRONGER rather than just tormenting Kris or just being evil for no reason.
>>712636601is the "Me" shit not letting noelle know that we exist?
>>712635623Good, Mr shekelstein and Shaniqua need more taxpayers to keep this system afloat
>>712636601Specifically, Kris wants to keep the fact that they're actually TWO NIGGAS a secret. Both Krisses want to hide it, in fact. It's not keeping one or the other secret, people thinking they're bipolar or whatever is fine.
>>712636601Considering no one else can see it (It literally flies right in front of her eyesight there), he could have just pretended it was an autistic shitfit like he usually does
>>712636085>he knows Not exactly, it's reinforced that it's thanks to the soul, as shown by thanks to us, Kris going stupid about pianos.
>Dess wasn't scary, but she loved scary things.There we go, now it's properly fixed.
>Dess was as much of a big sister to Kris as she was to NoelleWe can only go from assumptions here, it's clear that Noelle bottles up how much she misses her.
>>712636392...that's called sincerity, anon.
What the fuck is wavedashing?
>>712636483he's already on thin ice for slashing susie and possibly having minikris shank ramb. no sexo ending for you kris
>The place where it rained
>It's raining somewhere else
the moment Sans asks to take a photo i will start clapping and doing soifaces
>>712636417He clearly loses more controll over his actions during weird route. Normaly he just mumbles nothing when you force him to say that he will never play again, during weird route he has to bite his hand hard to stop himself from saying it.
The more you corrupt the doe, the more he has to fight for controll over his body
is the dog imagery cause Kris is an annoying dog
>>712636665I think it would work if it was technically "optional" in that not doing them makes the party way weaker for it. Something like the Shadow Mantle and Knight fight.
>>712636652issue with that is that image was only recently posted in the last day, it wasn't made pre-CH4
so yeah before it was reasonable but now it's just jamming in an unrelated name that makes it a little more goofy looking than it's meant to be
>>712636501A-and the baby... is (you)?
>>712636665Your choices dont matter
>>712636646Because Susie shares aspects of her sister, not all of them, in terms of rebellious attitude.
It's really not that hard.
>>712636286what the fuck did they do to the poor kids
Why does the Titan have a literal save point protecting his face
>>712636196A lot of Deltarune/Undertale's humor misses me, but everything Rouls does in Chapter 3 is great. Fucking love the guy.
Toby does a good job following Earthbound's example, saying all the dialogue out loud and having very specific text boxes and text advancement to convey the line delivery, and Rouls benefits a lot from it.
>>7126367461. When and how will the quiche come into play? Probably just something Toriel bakes for him to symbolise their budding relationship, which he will abandon in an extremely cowardly way
2. Where is the dimension hopping machine? Do we think Papyrus is making it? Is the papyrus in Undertale the one from deltarune??
>>712636589The route protects Noelle from becoming a victim of domestic violence and a deadbedroom.
>>712636483>only way for kris to not betray the party is to make the friendships so strong he can't force himself to do itToby i kneel
>>712635310Light world rudy is probably going to fall into a coma in the coming chapters and noelle's going to panic.
>>712636707Her eyes are closed during that scene, I'm sure she'd be able to see it otherwise. Susie also obviously sees it seeing as she comments on it.
Why did everyon in the TV world turn to stone anyway? I assumed that the fountain animates them is "their" fountain, but I guess not?
>>712636589>could the snowgrave route be retroactively justified once we find out something in a future chapter?People used to think that the person stuck in the game files was Dess. Now that Dess has shown up, I'm pretty sure it's end of Snowgrave Noelle.
>last words of chapter 4's entry are "thank you">thinking of Noelle in Chapter 4 Snowgrave leads to you seeing a red dot inside a void, which says "thank you"Mark my words, we're going to be storing a LV99 walking ice age inside the game files to smuggle her across timelines and pull her out later.
>>712636679No. Even in that scene Noelle talks to Kris like- You know, like he's Kris.
>>712636707I mean that's literally what he did between chapter 2 and 4 at some point, right? Actually part of the plot.
>>712636530Okay I see it now, but even as someone who speaks english natively it kinda went over my head. I don't think that phrase just doesn't have that strong a tie to anything sexual, at least not anymore. Either way, sex with Elnina.
>>712636738A technique dominant in Smash Bros. Melee.
The worst thing is looking up Deltarune discussions and seeing so many retards convinced its a reference to Celeste.
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>>712636589>Could turning your friend into a popsicle by mindbreaking your childhood friend be justified?>Could then turning your childhood friend into the last panel of the Morning Stranger be justified?It would have to be REALLY fucking well justified. I've sworn off even watching genocide or snowgrave .gifs at this point, but if it somehow means everyone gets to live on without an ending, where the only ending means fucking up everyone's lives?
Would the kids be able to live out their own lives without being afflicted by trauma?
It's really fucking tough to say. Maybe.
>>712636113>Toriel turning on the lights in the supply closet and finding all the crap you've been hoarding, and then throwing it away for maximum emotional damage.This would sink Toriel's reputation so low she'll find herself in China, and i cannot wait for it.
>>712636589Itโs already justified by getting the Kriss and Noelle dolly to kiss-kiss
>>712636905i do not like the insinuations you are making of my girl susan
>>712636964Dess hasn't shown up you stupid nigger
>>712636227>Noelle yearns for freedomSchizo boss confirmed
>>712636878Well Kris lot his soul (and possibly his hand) and got so fucked up mentally he needed art therapy. Dess either got lost and or became the Knight. Asriel got the fuck out of town, and Noelle is... Noelle.
So bad shit.
>>712636986LANINO FUCKS THIS?
>>712636738It's a well known form of cheating in Smashing Fighters.
>>712636868>tfw noone will shed a tear for himI will shed a tear for my boy Ramb. He gave his life to give me the truth.
>>712636624I don't even get the point of your post so here, have a pity (You) as you huff out more hot air straight out of your own fumes.
>>712636738toby likes melee
>berdly looks like falco>references wavedashing>includes a line about how controller notchers are cheating (lol)you have to be fairly deep into the scene to care about controller modification autism
>>712634307>anon forgot that undertale got a perfect gold ending where literally everyone is happy>anon expects deltarune to be any different
>>712637034>and possibly his handBut he has both in the game.
>got so fucked up mentally he needed art therapyWhen is that mentioned?
>>712637034>Kris lost his handI'm not familar with this theory. Where can I learn more
>>712637004I know itโs from smash. Toby even mentions it in-game โsuper smashing brothersโ or something. But what is the technique? Why would Berdly going around telling others Kris does the technique?
>>712636196>starts a fight and removes FIGHT because we would kick his ass>everyone starts dancing>BIGGE UPPS EVERYONE
>>712636589No, but aborted snowgrave with the twisted sword might (if they do anything with that)
Snowgrave is clearly too messed up to be justified, the game gives you a lot of opportunity to not do it,it's too dark for it to be justified, aborded already is dark enough
>>712636417>but for some reason he didnt do so when we intervened with the deer,Remember Mantle's dialogue about how part of Kris enjoys it, and likes to blame someone else? Think about it.
>>712635873>tenna represents the dads>feels forgotten by everyone, biggest punching bag beeging for any attention
Friend is obviously a demon that led the children into the woods which ended up possessing Kris' hand.
>>712637134You have to eat all the eggs
>>712636738https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXj1aaRCIcY
>>712637107well can't say i didn't try, you can go back to trying to convince people they're wrong for coming up with stuff i'm sure it'll make someone 'snap back to reality' or whatever
>people are expecting Noelle to make the hospital dark world
>When the knight has a real possibility if it really is Dess
>>712636726>That's called sincerityFor one, go fucking kill yourself.
Two, it's still a tryhard image.
>>712636767The dog imagery is because Kris is on a metaphorical leash.
Also he's into it.
>>712637109melee is not as obscure as people make it out to be
The doc has millions of views and every university in the country has a melee club
>>712637134Spamton Sweepstakes ARG, egg rooms.
>>712637134Ch4 egg room
you can have Kris paint on a canvas in a therapy session
Kris repeatedly fails to paint something, and then when he eventually succeeds the canvas is already a monochrome smear
>>712636767The dog is Kris' secret Undersona
>>712637109Gerson and Alvin's names are also smash references.
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>>712637137The chapter 4 egg and the 1225 secret in the chapter 3 gacha machine.
>>712637259i never implied that u anti hipster
>>712637145It's airdodging into the ground which makes your fighter slide across the ground. It's a useful technique because it allows you to slide into a stationary ground attack.
Berdley is basically telling people Kris is a no-lifer/cheater since Wavedashing is a fairly advanced trick for an otherwise somewhat simple party game.
>>712637137The Dess room in ch3 basically implies Kris lost his hand while trying to save Dess
>>712637134>>712637137Chapter 4 Egg room has him in art therapy after seeing egg guy/Gaster,
References out the wazoo about severed hands.
Shadow crystal showing Kris not having a hand.
The secret 1225 room in chapter 3 having Kris not able to find his hand.
Chapter 4 egg room having Kris have a *grey* crease he can't wash off.
Running schizo theory is Kris lost a hand in the fucked up incident and Gaster gave him a Goner/Vessel replacement.
>>712637034what does the wing dings text say?
>>712637134So sorry shows up in the chapter 4 egg room off screen for the paint therapy
>>712633726we've all been there, little buddy
>>712637004>so many retards convinced its a reference to Celeste.This cant be real
>>712637145You air dodge diagonally into the floor, it makes you slide forward but keeps you in your standing animation so you can do pretty much any action while moving. Berdly tells others Kris can do it because its difficult to do consistently and precisely and Berdly is a scholar who loves his friends almost as much as he loves to frag
>if you collect the eggs of each chapter on playstation you donโt get the achievement for beating the chapter
>the achievements info specifically is for beating the chapter โwithout an issueโ
>gaster even comments at you not getting any achievements at the end of chapter 4
>and suggests you are doing this on purpose and says he is interested in seeing where this will lead
This seems pretty important Toby why isnโt this on pc as well?
>>712629424 (OP)>Hey preacher man. Sorry about trashing your church. Our bad>Anyway your dad says not to kill yourself or something.>Ps. Don't drink from the water cooler
>>712637145It exploits the game mechanics and makes you move faster but you have to do this annoying thing with your fingers constantly to move at all now or you cant compete
The bunnyhopping of fighting games
>>712636767Its because of the time he spend with tasque, she calls him dog
Hey faggots, consider consolidating your threads before making any new ones so you don't shit up the catalog, thanks.
>>712628964>>712628964>>712628964
>>712637319Washing away the grey dust of Dess?
So she died in his arms
>>712637145jump, airdodge (press R) and aim into the ground diagonally after your jumpsquat ends to dodge into the stage, carry momentum and become actionable sooner than landing
>>712636963For some of them, it's since Kris feels they don't "belong" to the house, like Ramb being stolen power strip from the library. Might've been similar for that Zapper that turns to stone. That's still not enough to fully explain everything we see in Chapter 4, though, so there's some deeper rules about Dark Worlds that Ralsei hasn't explained yet.
>>712637137Ch1 shadow crystal
>for just a moment... you thought you saw through your hand.Ch3 ball machine, insert 1225 Points
>You couldn't find>Your handTry to go back in the room Susie bleeds on Ralsei at the end of ch4
>it seems the way is blocked. >You put out your hand...>And just out of view,>Just perfectly out view,>Another hand pressed against yours,>And pushed back. Ch4 therapy egg room
>You ran water over your hands, and dried them.>Between your fingers, a faint grey crease glittered stubbornly.>... You can never wash it all away.Ch3 Ralsei's description of the dark world has IMAGE FRIEND with 5 appendages show up when he says "and feel them", perhaps FRIEND is Kris's hand (this one is a bit of stretch)
so is chapter 0 gonna be after chapter 5 or chapter 6?
>>712637034Are we still assuming deltarune has the same logic as Undertale where monsters act far more on emotions and prefer to be happy over anything else. I just get the vibes Kris (since they're human) can't let go of the trauma and the monsters don't get it at all.
>>712637449>Alvin starts breaking down anyway
>>712637474doe rapers and deltarune threads are separate entities at this point
>>712637474Janny, if you didn't want the catalog to get skull fucked, you shouldn't have started a little personal crusade of autosaging and deletion
>>712637034Noelle is also coping
Sans dialogue shows she stays in front of freezers hours on end
>>712637137Adding to
>>712637362 , the Flying Aces in the ch3 egg room talking about how photocopies are monochrome until they're colored in and that you should photocopy a Kris for them to play with.
>>712637362Actually Deltarune Gaster is his therapist
>>712637418>Berdly is a scholar who loves his friends almost as much as he loves to fragAnd Berdly really, REALLY loves to frag
>>712637645Toby could never make me hate Berdley. Whenever someone is mean to him i punch my fucking screen
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>>712637432There's only achievements on PS5 because Sonegroes made him, so he did something fun with it.
>>712637449>Alvin reading this while drinking a cup of suspiciously salty water
>>712637689Impressive gamer rage. Berdly would approve
>>712637612God I hope we see what the fucking incident was that gave these kids so much SAN damage. I half expect Asriel to just blank out whenever any sort of weird or darkworld adjacent discussion happens when we see him.
>>712637432Sony wouldn't let him have an achievement that was "don't collect any other achievement" so he added that as an Easter egg instead.
>>712637786We're going to get a whole chapter flashback to the snowy city
I canโt believe Iโve been here long enough to witness unironic Snowgravefags because it canonizes their ship, not even the Susellefags were this delusional
Aborted Snowgrave is the only way it MIGHT be exonerated, and thatโs under the assumption that Noelle doesnโt realize that it wasnโt a dream eventually (she will because it would be retarded otherwise)
>>712636767Kris in Ch2 is almost a dog fetishist he REALLY likes playing as a dog
>>712637850gonna be funny when all full snowgrave does is kill Noelle lmao
>Hi family I'm back from my first semester of university
>studying particle physics
>my concentration?
>Negative photons
>>712637925Holy fucking based. Tobert do it I wanna watch the meltdown
>>712637229>For one, go fucking kill yourself.Not cool, bro. This exact train of thought is how you get irony-poisoned underages in the first place.
>>712635468Thanks! I did find myself putting a lot more extra juice into the tongue than I thought. Probably because the lewd mouth was the focus of the pose.
I haven't drawn much else that's like this, cause I'm not into maws or vore or anything like that... I hope. But I do like big, long tongues that can slather all over you and kiss you so deeply you start to choke.
Spoiler for off-topic.
>>712637786>I half expect Asriel to just blank out whenever any sort of weird or darkworld adjacent discussion happens when we see him.Totaly, i think he will pretend like everything is fine and will be fine like Ralsei did untill he was hit with reality in new chapters. This part of his character has to be copy from real deal
>>712637280I really liked this detail. It seemed to be like kris wasn't drawing it incorrectly, it's just that what he saw kept going, and going, thousands of images layered on top of each other, something he can't comprehend let alone accurately put on paper
the conspiracy schizo shit is so kino this time around. Like the pipes. what the fuck is with the pipes? that's genuinely creepy
>>712637850>only way it might be exoneratedDon't count on it too soon
>>712637786>I half expect Asriel to just blank out whenever any sort of weird or darkworld adjacent discussion happens when we see him.>susie decides asriel can be trusted with dark world info and starts gushing about the fun adventures she and kris have had>asriel's just checked the fuck out>at some point susie decides to drag asriel's disassociating ass into castle town>asriel proceeds to have a panic attack as he stares down a bootleg clone of himself
>>712638064seriously, call him a pup he'll like it
not exactly beating the femboy allegations that one porn-dumping anon keeps throwing out there
Asriel got fucked up by the bunker incident and turned into Flowey
>>712637786>Asriel just spaces out at the festival, thinking about things. Things he did before. The taste of cotton candy. Her buck toothed smile.might be fun and/or soul-destroying
>>712638152I want to make him wear a leash and take him for a walk around town
>>712637936The only thing Asriel studies in college is gay sex
>>712637850Snowgrave is cool because it has edgekino, don't lump me in with those faggot shippers. I want these characters to come out on the other side of it more miserable and with their bonds more frayed than ever, and solely for my own amusement.
I don't think Asriel is going to be at the festival
>>712628510>>712628510>>712628510thread we can jump ship to, don't make any new ones retards or the janny will wake up again or do, melty is always fun
>Missed eggs
>Also was too much of a good boy and gave Alphys the chocolates, didn't steal Asriel's money for the diner
>Don't really feel like going back and redoing chapters
I'd say I'm on track for the worst ending, but my choices don't matter.
>>712637850>unironic Snowgravefags because it canonizes their shipAnon, that became a thing shortly after chapter 2 came out.
>>712638328WAIT
CAN YOU KEEP THE CHOCOLATES UP UNTIL THE FESTIVAL
THIS IS IMPORTANT
>>712638275>snowgravenigger infestedNo
>>712637936Reminder that Asriel MOVED ON from Dess and KISSED Catty and BRATTY.
>>712638221that's kinda rude man
>>712637850Can't I like the three options?
I like Snowgrave since it ends up with (You), I like aborted Snowgrave since it lets the two speak their minds even though they're pushed into an awful situation and finally, I like the normal route since there's still plenty of ways to choose Noelle that has a chance to pay off in the end
>>712635284>spoilerAh hell
>>712638518He likes it though
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>>712638505Based. Catty is fucking STACKED.
>>712638481>>snowgravenigger infestedMein anon... the deltatroon threads... they're ALL snowgravenigger infested.
>>712638535Your choices don't matter.
>>712638735i swear, if kris didn't already have (You) and a missing soul, people would be theorizing kris was a dog soul transplanted into a human body.
>>712632825>i thought you were gonna take care of that fuckin' doe>oh for fuck's sake fuckin' noelle again what the fuck is wrong with you??
>>712638221This was pretty cute
>>712638818>Kris fucks white womenSusie confirmed white-coded.
>>712638592This is because dog treats are cigarettes in the tobyverse
Sorry furrybros
>Kris's fursona is a dog
>Toby's fursona is a dog
I AM NOOTICING
>>712639026got a screen showing all the outfits in the scene?
>>712639082>illiterate>fatherless>broke as hellSorry CHUD, she's heckin black coded.
>>712634095Do you guys think we will ever learn what Kris said?
>>712639148>The climax of chapter 5 is Carol trying to mob lynch susie
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>>712638592>>712638735kris is a freak god damn
>>712639086>kris may have lost his original hand>kris plays piano>toby has hand and wrist issues>toby plays piano
>>712638017My exact tastes, I'm not at all into vore, giantess, or even any of those pics with a giant focus on a character's throat.
But a tongue, dripping with saliva, really meaty, ready to receive my cock? That's my shit.
>>712634307Susie and Kris will be stuck in a Darkworld
Ralsei will be stuck in the Lightworld
>>712638518it's not rude if that's literally what Kris wants
>>712639337uh
wait
hold on if kris is toby
does that mean we're the same thing controlling kris, and we're collectively toby's fever dream making him write deltarune?
>>712639520why does toby dream of rape
>>712639520Yes. (We) are literally the reason Deltarune exists.
>>712639579They don't call him "King of Ero Games" for nothin
>>712637012>>712637149i'm not saying it'd be like a happy ending and necessary, just that we have a reason to attempt this besides sadism