Thread 712641101

>silent hill
>not set in silent hill

Then why not make it a new franchise?

to get faggots like you interested

>>712641101 (OP)
Part of Silent Hill 3 wasn't set in Silent Hill and Heather was still harassed by spooky otherworld monsters outside the town

>>712641101 (OP)
07 probably wanted it to be a Higurashi game but Fuckonami didn't want to waste extra money so they slapped Silent Hill on it.

Most of SH fans have never played the games, only the SH2 remake so they don't know what the games are about.

This is just Siren but with the Silent Hill brand

They want the youtube essay watcher audience

>>712641101 (OP)
the f in Silent Hill f stands for fffffar away hahaahhahahahahahahaha

>>712641274
do you understand who/what Cheryl is?

>>712643915
The game was changed to be about Cheryl later in development and the reveal about who she is isn’t until a few hours into the game (which is why Heather is never given a last name in original materials).
Even ignoring that though, SH4 is completely set outside of town.

Should've been set in Shizuoka (Silent Hill)

>>712641101 (OP)
Should have set it in Shizuoka since Shizuoka quite literally can be translated to "Silent Hill"

>>712641101 (OP)
The game seems pretty heavy on flower imagery so they'll probably find some way to explain everything as just being some white claudia induced high.

>>712641101 (OP)
It's gonna be a SH1 prequel prequel, I just know it.

We've been asking this since 4 OP.

The answer is marketability.

>>712641101 (OP)
The children yearn for Siren 5

>>712643915
>Doesn't count
4 is entirely outside of Silent Hill and I'm quite sure Henry isn't special.

>>712641101 (OP)
because Hinamizawa Hill is mouthful.

>>712641101 (OP)
Is it Silent Hill for the anime/weeb crowd?

>>712645935
No it isn't, the woods are within the Silent Hill city limits.
But furthermore you find out as much about the SH cult's beliefs as you do in SH3.

>>712647534
>Henry isn't special
He's literally a key piece in Walter's ritual
SH4 is the fucking inverse of SH2, where people praise that game without ever playing it, whereas people shit on 4 without ever having played it

>>712646391
I always wonder about the sort of people who ask these kinda questions. Like are they being genuine? Do they really not know why it's called that? Of course the answer is marketability

>>712647969
It’s actually entirely set in an apartment building and Henry has nightmares taking place in Walter’s memories.
Anyways, your excuse at the end will likely be the exact same reasoning SHf uses

>>712647534
>Henry isn't special
The boy will basically ignore the murder rape enemies and go on a long-winded monologue about his inspiration for a photograph, he's pretty special alright.

>>712648057
Circumcision boy isn't special to Silent Hill either, the town was never vitally important even during the original Japanese developed games

>>712641274
But the plot is still about the town and She does eventually go to it, the latter thing might still happen in this new game, since silent hill was founded a very long time ago.

>>712641101 (OP)
As long as it starts in an abandoned town covered in mist, that enough ‘silent hill’ to qualify.

>>712641101 (OP)
They are connected by a tunnel, trust me.

>>712651721
Silent Hill will be revealed to have infinite vertical range, sniping some random japanese town on the other side of the globe.

>>712649618
>it's entirely set within the apartment building
No, it's not.
You go through a tunnel to the nightmare versions of places in and around Silent Hill, and the nearby subway and the apartment building itself.
You teleport, it's very clear.
Cynthia is outside going into the regular subway and ends up in the nightmare version, which is down the street from the apartment.

>>712649957
Walter is the most powerful character in the entire franchise.

>>712645935
That's a disingenuous argument. The release version is cannon, no the pre-production notes

>>712649641
Harry=Henry>>James>>>>>>>>>>>>>Heather

>>712641101 (OP)
its the silent hill phenomenon, anita's game explained this

>>712641101 (OP)
Wow, Japanese fans are vocal about Silent Hill f and they are NOT happy. They're discontented with the change in setting to Japan and Ryushiki being the main writer. I guess they were holding out hope for a well-written scenario. There's even a petition that's garnered thousands of signatures to have the story changed. That obviously won't happen but it just shows how unhappy they are.

>>712651994
lol

>>712647534
Henry bought his shoes in Silent Hill and they cursed him.

>>712655337
No wonser Eileen shaved her armpits in bed.

>>712655092
Then the Japanese have much better taste than Western weebs.

>>712641101 (OP)
for marketing purposes

Just a town

Eileen shaving

>>712646485
You mean Siren 3? Or 4, if you're counting Blood Curse as a mainline entry?

>>712641101 (OP)
when this game comes out i want to get a black serafuku and shiny loafers for better immersion but i'm a boy, any advice for me?

>>712641101 (OP)
This reeks of "we are jealous of how spooky Siren is" and decided to copy it.
Silent hill is now just psychology shit.

>>712641101 (OP)
Name is what sells, content is irrelevant.

>>712659230
that hasn't been true for any silent hill game except the remake of 2 for 20 years

>>712647534
Silent Hill 4 is about Walter.
A little kid groomed by the silent hill cult to be a replacement of Alessa.
Plus you visit 2 silent hill areas which I doubt you will in a game sey in the other end of the world.

>>712641101 (OP)
to sell the game to tourists and secondaries.

>>712641101 (OP)
The game is basically Siren/Fatal Frame which is weird but I'm interested.

>>712659147
Aside form SH1/SH3, SH has always been psychology shit and that's because of the runaway success of SH2.

>>712659340
>Plus you visit 2 silent hill areas which I doubt you will in a game sey in the other end of the world.
In SH4 you just teleport into areas of Silent Hill. I wouldn't put it past f to have a cameo level where you explore part of Silent Hill due to all being connected now.

>>712659293
It's a name people know and is more popular now than it was before. They aren't going to make something new when they can just put a recognized IP onto whatever they have.

>>712641101 (OP)
are we back in 2004 again? what the fuck is with survival horror and pure unfiltered autismo

>>712659758
>Aside form SH1/SH3, SH has always been psychology shit and that's because of the runaway success of SH2.
And SH4.
But hey, if count all the ones after that were already remakes of SH2 as what the series "is" or should be, go ahead
Silent Hill is a series about an evil cult.

>>712659758
>and that's because of the runaway success of SH2.
SH2 was not a runaway success, SH3 was made so quickly using so many of the same assets as 2 because Konami needed to recoup more money.
SH4 became a mainline entry and not a spin-off because they wanted to sell better than the previous two games, which it did not.

>>712641101 (OP)
Name-brand recognition. You know how caananites operate, anon.

>>712641101 (OP)
>Then why not make it a new franchise?
It looks so much like Forbidden Siren that they could've just used an old franchise.

>>712659986
SH4 is pretty much ALL psychology shit. It's just focused on the villain instead of the protagonist.

>>712661058
No, it isn't. It's just Walter being evil, there is a psychology behind it but "here's baby walter and he's not evil, crazy huh?" is not the psychological drama you think it is
and all the monsters are physical reflections of Walter or the cult's victims, not psychological ones

>>712661306
You don't know what the meaning of psychology is nor did you even play the game.

>>712662289
I played through it last week.
Name the psychological elements that
1) exceed those of the first and third games, or really any general fictional story where characters have a general psychology behind their actions
2) come anywhere near to the utter, slavish focus SH2 places on the psychology of its characters

>>712662430
So you don't think SH4 is a psychological game, but SH6 is? Really strange hill to die on, Anon.

>>712662675
>SH6
which game are you even saying is SH6?
Homecoming? Because that game is about how the protagonist is tormented by the fact that he forgot he killed a loved one, and the nature of that murder is determined by your actions throughout the game, which is just SH2 again

>>712659838
Guess they will need someone from the town in the new setting because the connection with Walter and the cult is what makes it easier to accept the not silent hill setting.
Like same with Sheperd Glenn in SH5.

>>712659340
>I doubt you will in a game sey in the other end of the world
you dont even travel there on foot, magic voodoo bullshit brings you there. Nothing the new silent hill couldn't do as well

>>712663234
but why would it?
>>712662990
shepard's glenn was right next to silent hill or a subsection of it or whatever, and you go to the actual silent hill later on

>>712659450
youre about 20 years to late to make this argument about silent hill. Literally ever game since 3 (maybe 4 if you want to be special) has been a giant shift from the originals with almost nothing tying them together

i too care very much about modern silent hills reputation. Just look at how well respected the games were up until now...

>>712663454
>the originals
SH 1--4 are the originals, they came out in a span of 5 fucking years.
SH1 and 3 are the most connected games in the series, followed by 4.
2 is the most disconnected.

>>712663454
Literally what the fuck are you talking about?

Already had very little interest in the game, this finished it off for me.
Hope the SH1 remake tones down the combat a little from what they had in 2.

>>712664996
Seriously? An outside menu hud?
At least 4 had the decency to have to get rid of the menu.

>>712665492
Konami also said it's more action oriented.

>>712666057
yeah the trailer had fucking fast and furious knife combos happening like back in homecoming

>>712666178
Well the protag was a well built war vet.
This is a high school girl.

>>712664996
Soulslike bars are kino albeit

>>712666331
>Well the protag was a well built war vet.
no
he wasn't
that was in his head, he spent all that time in a mental asylum
and using a kitchen knife like it's a small sword would not even be the result of any kind of proper training

>>712664996
Silent Souls, finally...

>>712666331
the whole retarded twist with homecoming was that the protag WASNT in the army he just thought he was.
which ends up completely invalidating the reason for WHY they design the combat to be so fucking action oriented with combat dodges.
It was actually the stupidest fucking thing imaginable.

Alright fellas, I just bought a CRT TV and own every Silent Hill game thanks to my teenage years. And im thinking it's time to reintroduce myself to the cult.

Is Origins -> 1 -> 3 a good play order? I hate that my teenage brain didnt retain any story elements.

>>712667629
No. 1 > 3 and only then Origins, if you really care.

>>712667629
Origins isn't worth playing.
And SH4 is a better end to the cult storyline, as Heather destroys the cult completely in SH3, but Walter is the end result of their machinations even after they've ceased functioning.

>>712667706
>>712667826
I see.

Part of the reason I wanted to start Origins is becuase I have that on PSP and can play it at work and can knock it out in 2-3 days (night shift). Are the new story elements really that inconsequential?

I'll be playing Siren as well for F, and I actually really enjoyed 4 years ago, way more then 3.

was interested in this game but ever since I found out its developed by some mystery meat hong kong studio I've been kinda on the fence.
why does konami outsource their games if it literally hasn't worked since SH4 until SH2R (shouldn't count because its a remake anyways)?

>>712668387
>Are the new story elements really that inconsequential?
inconsequential at best
annoying retcons at worst
if you played SH1 right after, you'd be confused because it wouldn't line up

>>712668527
Okay. Akira Yamaoka and Mary Elizabeth knocked ut out if the park with this one

https://youtu.be/2Di99jzmjws?si=ZIAl_B0LWXRt6nJF

It really put me in the mood to play, but I desperately want to know wtf is going with the cult, so I'll refain, for now.

>>712669337
the music is the only good thing in origins, homecoming, and shattered memories
but even then it turns way more into actual songs rather than ambient music for a video game

>>712641101 (OP)
I just don't understand J Horror.
>ahhh ching chong from next door isn't actively following the unwritten and written guidelines for behavior within our society... the horror!

>>712669690
Shattered Memories is amazing and one of the best story experiences I've ever had in my life.
I implore you to replay it if your only exposure to it was when it first released. I feel as if it stands toe to toe with 1-4.

>>712669758
What is good horror then?

>>712670092
Silent Hill 1 and 2 are pretty good.

>>712670004
why would having played it when it first came out matter?
and I didn't, but I never liked walking sims

>>712670217
A lot of people didnt understand the motion controls and were turned off by the non combat.
Not liking walking sims is fine, but you're doing a disservice to Shattered Memories by lumping it in with Origins ajd Homecoming.

>>712670004
Shattered Memories is a good game but the problem is that its not horror, not scary at all. You could say SM is a good game but not a good SH game and also that it insists upon itself.

>>712670847
Memes aside it does insist upon itself and that's what blew my 19 year old mind way back when. Also, as that other anon said, what is horror? SM has an intriguing storyline and a great dark atmosphere, am I terrified, no, but I'm certainly immersed in the town of Silent Hill when I'm there.

>>712670781
it's not as bad as homecoming or origins or downpour, but it's also not good
I don't consider any SH game released after 4 to matter at all and when I discuss the series I almost always speak as if there are only those 4

>>712671161
Please, don't resort to "horror is subjective". Everyone can agree that SM doesn't do survival horror in the slightest so at best you end up with an atmospheric walking simulator with tedious chade sequences and uninspired enemy designs and the story is nothing to write about since it's just feels like a remix of SH1.

>>712666545
>>712667363
Should probably replay it then because I didnt remember that.

Is the clothing damage part of the story or dynamic like a health bar (so you can play with the hud turn off)?

>>712641101 (OP)
you should have asked this like a billion years ago when shit like the room and homecoming came out

>>712641101 (OP)
marketing

>>712655092
>all false info
ywnbaw

>>712659450
so like SH2?

>>712672332
no it's loli fanservice

>>712672332
So her clothes regrow when you drink a health drink? LMAO

>>712641101 (OP)
Because everything else is the same

>>712673852
>loli

>>712673862
this thread is the proof that 80% of the people who discuss silent hill on the internet, never actually played any of those games

>>712673862
yes like downpour

>>712674060
People with any amount of dignity didn't play Homecoming and Downpour.

>>712673862
>clothing doesnt regenerate
>screw over your savefile by getting all your clothing destroyed on the first level and are forced to start over or else play rest of the game in your underwear

>>712674060
>you're not a true SH fan if you didn't play downpour!
I've been a fan of the series since potentially before you were born if you can specifically remember anything about Downpour, because that would imply it was some kind of foundational experience for you, and I can tell you that I wish I hadn't ever played that game because I have nonspecific negative memories of doing so

>>712641101 (OP)
>psychological horror game
>overcoming your trauma is based on how well you can time your dodge rolls and parries

>>712663591
>The fucking coof is a result of Silent Hill
I hate millennial writers so fucking much

>>712675209
silent hill combat is pretty traumatic

>>712641274
Silent Hill 4 also didn't happen in Silent Hill. The rest after that don't matter.

>>712657745
You're doing God's work, lad.

>>712666604
>It finally happened

>>712675704
the first half of silent hill 3 isnt also in silent hill never mind all the other games

>>712641274
>Part of Silent Hill 3 wasn't set in Silent Hill
So was part of 1 and 2
>and Heather was still harassed by spooky otherworld monsters outside the town
Do you not understand why that happened?
The only reason Silent Hill 1 happened in Silent Hill is because Heather (in more than one way) was there at the time

>>712676440
>So was part of 1 and 2
In one, that is only the opening cutscene; Harry wakes up behind the wheel in Silent Hill.
In 2, you are parked outside Silent Hill, and immediately take the forest path in to it.
That being said, this is one of the stupider troll questions that keep getting brought up; anyone who actually played the games would understand why strange things would happen outside of the town itself.

>>712677127
>In one, that is only the opening cutscene; Harry wakes up behind the wheel in Silent Hill.
>In 2, you are parked outside Silent Hill, and immediately take the forest path in to it.
Yes, but if part of the game taking place outside of Silent Hill is some kind of disqualifying factors for these retards who get all their opinions from Twin Perfect or the fucking Two Best Friends LPs 10 years ago or whatever instead of playing the fucking games like how it often appears they do, then they're actually not really Silent Hill games just like SH4 "is" because it also "never goes to Silent Hill" as is so often parroted by people who never played the game

>>712651994
ahh, the UFO stuff finally makes sense now

>Silent Hill: Andromeda
I can't wait

>>712677543
>this is one of the stupider troll questions that keep getting brought up; anyone who actually played the games would understand why strange things would happen outside of the town itself
This resolves it all, anon.
It's not a good faith question, it is shitposting.

>>712641101 (OP)
the Silent Hill entities are not constrained to a physical location and I don't know why anyone would believe this considering even in the 4 Team Silent games we have seen evidence of the opposite

>>712649641
Henry is just autistic and schizophrenic.

>>712677897
i think what they mean to ask is why there is no connection to silent hill. Silent hill 4 if i remember it correctly had walter being in the silent hill orphanage and through silent hill powers trying to revive his mother (the room) which in turn is just a ritual to summon a demon. Now i myself am not quite sure if it was the cult who gave walter powers, silent hill, or if walter had innate powers or everything combined.

>>712675209
This will be forever the biggest weakness of horror games, we were blessed by tank controls and clunky controls in their early moments, but now games have to be games and they need to have the standarized control method that all games have so we have been having a lot of experiments with weird combat.
The SH2 takes it to the extreme, I'm fighting hordes of atrocities like I'm a fucking super hero and it even gets repetitive for so much combat.

>>712666604
Having something like bonfires and limited health potions would do wonders to a horror game.

>>712678084
None of those.
Walter performed a holy cult ritual, culminating in his suicide, and that gave him his powers.
He then went on to choose his next set of victims, drawing them in to the web.
>>712678238
>The SH2 takes it to the extreme, I'm fighting hordes of atrocities like I'm a fucking super hero and it even gets repetitive for so much combat.
>pressing X

>>712678084
Walter got powers from the sacrament, which halfway through involves killing yourself to become an invincible, corporeal specter before continuing to sacrifice other people to complete the ritual and become a god

>>712678084
We didn't know any of that before SH4 came out so why would we now? People seriously think that because it's set in Japan there will be 0 connection to the rest of the series?

>>712678373
>>712678485
okay . I must have mixed it up with silent hill 3 manifesting the otherworld through the demonic fetus inside heather. I always though walter had powers from before the ritual hence why his ritual was actually succeeded which in turn grant him even more power. So 4 has basically no connections to silent hill whatsoever and is just a ritual?
>>712678595
I mean, now we know dont we?

>>712678595
>We didn't know any of that before SH4 came out so why would we now?
But we did.
We know that Alessa having psychic powers and having a bad childhood + being burned to a point that she would've died if she wasn't superhuman caused the main "problem"
thus her reincarnated self would have similar abilities, and she did
Walter for different reasons, also ended up with similar abilities
but again this is all generally within the same tri-state or even the same state within the US
Whatever the explanation for why any of this is happening in Japan is (if there is even is one) will be clunky at best and distract from whatever main story they're trying to tell

>>712678815
>So 4 has basically no connections to silent hill whatsoever and is just a ritual?
No, retard. As has been stated multiple times, you go to multiple nightmare versions of places in Silent Hill during SH4
Walter grew up in Silent Hill and was raised by the evil cult there, which raised several orphans in an attempt to replicate what they originally tried and failed to do with Alessa (and then Heather)
Heather naturally had powers, the demon fetus was an amplifier, but again the whole reason Alessa was involved in this was because she was just a psychic kid in some way and Heather at one point kills an entire building full of monsters with her mind unconsciously

Only a third of SH3 actually happens in Silent Hill, who cares?

I don't really care about this series at this point. 3 was the last truly great one and it's 21 years old. Everything to come since it was mixed at absolute best, but more often than not was complete dogshit. It's almost a Sonic level ratio of good to bad entries.
I doubt SHf is going to be related to anything else in the series beyond a general premise of being punished by a cruel God for your own inner darkness and trauma. And because Fatal Frame and Siren are dead franchises, I might check it out just to scratch my weeaboo horror itch once it's on sale.

>>712679174
thats exactly what ive said. Going to silent hill and in walter memory fragments of it isnt proof that silent hill effect cant happen somewhere else hence why i stated or asked if there is any connection to silent hill as in if silent hill grants walter power. Walter could have been a brahms orphan but with the ritual it still would produce the nightmares of silent hill 4 story. Think before posting unwashed ape

>>712678867
>clunky at best
No one knows exactly how the tie in is going to happen, but Japanese folklore has a rich history of the phenomenon called 'Spirited Away', and that is a very easy, sensible way to tie it in.
The only way it will 'distract from the story' is if you decide you want it to.

>>712679674
>being punished by a cruel God for your own inner darkness and trauma
>plot point that was only used in 2 of 7 games
SH2 babbies get out.

>>712678084
in SH1 there's an unidentified Asian man in the flashback to the cult scheming over Alessa's hospital bed. chances are it's going to link back to that and show that the cult in SH has some kind of Asian connection. probably linked to the illicit drug trade they were involved in.

>>712679686
>brahms orphan
he was an ashford orphan raised in the wish house within silent hill's city limits
the woods where the actual house was that Henry goes to the nightmare version of are the same woods James runs through at the beginning of SH2 with the ranch nearby

>>712679831
>2 of 7
SH2
Origins
Homecoming
Downpour

>>712679831
It's literally all the God wants to do. It doesn't have to be guilt or something you did that you forgot about, it can be something that happened to you, or something that happened to someone near enough to you. It hates us, wants us to suffer, and uses inner darkness of any kind in order to manifest a horror.

Also igaf about anything past 4, they operate on their own logic.

>>712652815
no, the entire game takes place in Walter's nightmare. you physically don't leave the confines of the apartment. all the characters involved just fall asleep in the vicinity of Walter's ritual site (Henry's apartment) and are drawn into his nightmare.

>>712669758
kek

>>712679753
>sensible
it's not sensible to set a silent hill game in a rural japanese town in the first place, the comparisons to siren and fatal frame are obvious and a hindrance
Silent Hill being a strange form of Americana is a tenet of the series

>>712675337
Anon the game's concept was thought up by middle aged Japanese men who were responding to the effects of the lockdowns and fear porn on young people.

>>712680124
No, they don't.
Cynthia walking into the unattached subway down the street and waking up in the nightmare version is because Walter targeted her, the same thing would've happened if she was on the other side of the city at a Wal-Mart
The guy who gets lit on fire (Jasper?) drove to the woods outside of silent hill and was transported with his car into the nightmare version, that's why his fucking car is idling as you walk through the area, it's likely he parked on the same overlook as James did, because he certainly didn't drive it through all the trees with no roads nearby

>>712667629
no, don't play any of the Silent Hill games not made by Team Silent. there is literally no reason to play any game after 4 that bears the name.

>>712668387
no one involved in the original games was involved in the story of Origins. it's a bunch of fanfiction.

>>712668428
because the original games were made by small teams with something to prove.

>>712680001
interesting
I never made the connection to the sh2 woods
>>712679978
would be cool. I like the cult shit over the daycare for psychos shit that is sh2

>>712680376
wrong. sorry. go back and play the game again. it's all explained there.

>>712641101 (OP)
Let the cook. Looks comfy which is what silent hill is all about. The filthy slavs never got it.

>>712680204
not him but wdym siren and fatal frame are both awesome games. having comparison drawn to them is a win in either case and the first thing i thought when ive seen the game trailers for silent hill furude

>>712680616
>wrong
the fire guy explains he came out looking for the house because he was having walter dreams or whatever as he was a designated sacrifice by that point
he was miles and miles away from the apartment building when he got snatched, but incredibly close to a different site connected to Walter
My most recent playthrough of SH4 was last week
You should replay it

>>712680085
>Origins
Homeboy was drawn in because he interacted with Alessa, not because the town was interested in him in particular, similar to Harry.
>Homecoming
Also because the sacrificial ritual was interrupted, not because of personal problems.
You didn't play the games.
>>712680102
So 1 game of the initial 4.

SH2 babbies get out.

>>712679831
I've watched a lot of SH2 plays on YouTube, I am not a baby.

>>712680204
>Japanese girl is spirited away to Silent Hill, a supernatural locus that draws people to it for a variety of reasons
>mentioning Siren and Fatal Frame because Japan exists
Shitpost.

nubzombies playhtoughs should be mandatory watch to have any form of discussion here

>>712680778
retard, you said
>being punished by a cruel God for your own inner darkness and trauma
only happens in 2 out of 7
James is punished with his own guilt over whichever way he treated or mistreated Mary made manifest
Travis whatever from Origins is haunted by his childhood and mommy issues directly
Homecoming man is haunted by the fact that he killed his little brother on accident or not on accident
Downpour man is haunted by his son being murdered and/or himself having murdered his son
That's 4
meanwhile, Harry is just wanders in to all of Alessa's issues
Heather is attacked by the general creatures she summons on accident
Henry, similar to Harry just happened to be there when Walter was enacting his plans

>>712641101 (OP)
1. After Silent Hill 3, the series isn't even set in Silent Hill anymore.
2.The title Silent Hill actually came from a direct translation of "Shizuoka," a real region in Japan. So in a way, a Japanese countryside setting would be more authentically "Silent Hill" than the Americanized versions.

>>712680912
>Japanese girl is spirited away to Silent Hill, a supernatural locus that draws people to it for a variety of reasons
But she's clearly not in an American town and her issues are obviously related to friends or schoolmates she has which is guaranteed to be an extremely Japanese problem

>>712681116
What was the origin?

>>712641101 (OP)
This game being named Silent Hill instead Forbidden Siren or Fatal Frame is the biggest cope Konami made. Silent HIll without Twin Peak vibe of an American town is not a Silent HIll game. Fuck off, like making The Thing movie without a shapeshifting monster.

>>712680950
i prefer Threedogg

>>712681198
You shut your mouth and go watch some Twin Peaks kino.

>>712681198
>the Americanized versions.
Silent Hill was Americanized from the beginning
That's why it's set in America and they did a decent job having none of the characters act like autistic Japanese people, probably because they made sure to snatch up any white person they saw on the streets of Tokyo to do the voice work Clunky as it is, no one in the game ever says "Ehhhh?" in response to a statement or question, for example

>>712681116
You are confusing intent versus convenience.
Travis got involved not because the town targeted him, but because he was drawn in by Alessa, just as Harry was. He was not a target.
Alex too was incidental. In fact, the town was Shepherds Grove was going to shit before he even came back to it. He caused the ritual to fail, but the entity of SH wasn't targeting him, he was just the catalyst of a larger disaster.
SH2 and Downpour specifically were about the sins of the protag being acted upon.

>>712681203
>she's clearly not in an American town
Speaking about a game that isn't out, and has threadbare information released.
Hol' up everyone, this man works for Konami!

>>712645935
It was a rail shooter before it became SH3. Whatever it was before being Sh3 is completely moot.
>SH4 is completely set outside of town.
Forest and Water Prison are both in Silent Hill. The entire plot also relies on the Order.

>>712681413
You never see Downpour discussed. Low effort but I loved it and rank it 4th in the series. Last good silent hill.

>>712681273
what do we think about silent hill archives? he seems rather young to be a silent hill sage but something about his demeanor.. he seems like a decent guy

>>712681413
So? You said people
>being punished by a cruel God for your own inner darkness and trauma
Only happens in 2 of the 7 games.
It happens in more than 2, maybe you're too young to know this, but that's literally a "beam me up scotty" type of meme people thought generally about Silent Hill, that it's a series about people walking into the town and being haunted by their own internal shit in the form of monsters that loosely represent having a drunk dad who hit you or whatever
And the reason people thought that is because at the time, all the bad SH games were coming out and they were all about that, and SH2 is the one that got hyperbolic fellated throughout the 2010s, and is also about that
I forgot that the same thing happens in Shattered Memories, too

>>712681561
>Speaking about a game that isn't out, and has threadbare information released.
nice bait

>>712681754
never heard of him

>>712641101 (OP)
The devs have already explained this, you fucking retard.

>>712681647
I think Downpour had a lot of great ideas and heart, but executed terribly.
The idea of being able to functionally explore the town and deal with micro haints within it is great, and the high points rank with the best in the series, but the studio clearly was inexperienced, and it showed.
>>712681793
I did not say that, and I still disagree, as the people involved, outside 2 and Downpour, were incidental to the events. They had tragic pasts, yes, but their individual traumas were not the point, but a vehicle.
Shit, Shattered Memories wasn't even about Harry, but Cheryl and the world she concocted around Harry, as she didn't even know the man.
You entire argument is weak as liquid shit, and just as stinky.

>>712682051
>and the high points rank with the best in the series
there are no high points with that piece of shit you retard, it's not a good game just because you played it when you were 11 years old and you didn't know any better. fuck you and your nostalgia.

>>712681942
not a shill ,just geniunly interested if he knows his stuff. Im too retarded to make connections between all games so i rely heavily on outside sources https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9XiDskTaRkMPyBAk2m65vA

>>712682168
he has a bluesky so he's probably some shitlib faggot

>>712682051
>They had tragic pasts, yes, but their individual traumas were not the point, but a vehicle.
Not the argument.
The argument is that saying
>being punished by a cruel God for your own inner darkness and trauma
>plot point that was only used in 2 of 7 games
is incorrect. Because it factually is.
>Just because Travis the Trucker is attacked by monsters that represent his trauma doesn't mean the town was punishing him using his trauma!
retarded nigger

>>712680950
For me, it's the Latin speaking schizoid granny

>>712682250
how unfortunate

>>712682148
>ignores the rail car
You didn't play it.
>>712682254
>punishment by God implies you are the focus
>Travis and Alex were both incidental to a wider problem
This is the last (you) for you both.
>>712682250
To wit, supporting alternatives to youtube is a net positive,

>>712682562
>>punishment by God implies you are the focus
It literally doesn't. Do you want a list of all the innocent people Bible God punished to prove a point to someone else? It's a lot longer than just Job.

>>712682562
>To wit, supporting alternatives to youtube is a net positive
bluesky isn't an alternative to youtube, it's just a hugbox for shitlibs who are upset that Elon won't ban all the people they don't like on twitter like Jack Dorsey used to do. it's an insane asylum for hateful sociopaths who use progressive political thought as a bludgeon to hurt other people.

>Do you want a list of all the innocent people Bible God punished to prove a point to someone else? It's a lot longer than just Job.
i don't have a dog in this fight and i don't really know if he's correct but i'm just conditioned to post fedora neckbeards when i see biblesperging

I just want a katana to fight my inner demons as a schoolgirl

>>712682898
nothing I said was critical of the bible, the other poster is the one who keeps saying "god" even though it's alessa's psychic abilities that stained the town with supernatural bullshit that can spawn monsters and nightmare transformations, not any kind of god

>>712678238
I really like what they did with RE2 Remake, if you slowed it down, made monsters an even bigger threat and brought back resource management it could be a great compromise. Just no dodge button of any kind. It should also be possible to have some interesting camera angles without necessarily compromising on the camera controls, with for example cutscenes transitioning into one of those shots to draw attention and when you start moving the camera transitions back behind.

>>712658309
As his pic suggests, anon was counting Slitterhead as Siren 4.

>>712683275
RE9 is supposedly first and third person, if we can do that i don't see why we can't have fixed camera angles as an option as well other than huur duuur modern audiences pureese understandu

>>712683376
But.... But Slitterhead was Shitterhead....

>>712683380
the only reason people "don't like" fixed camera angles is because RE4 didn't do them and that was an entire generation's first RE and set the pace for horror games
now all those people and even younger generations act like nobody ever liked or knew how to navigate shit like that, and the anti-tank controls people came shortly thereafter

>>712683486
no i think it's more that tank controls suck and don't feel good to play with. once you have basic analog controls and just have a few second grace period on camera transitions for directional input they're fine.

>>712683643
but they don't suck, you're just bad at spacial reasoning

What did you miss most, lack of good camera angles or lack of cool puzzles? Also i feel re inteoducing hard puzzles is even a bigger problem than the camera one

>>712679174
>Heather at one point kills an entire building full of monsters with her mind unconsciously
Wait. When?

>>712683703
sorry bud, entire generations of technological advancement have proved you wrong. tank controls are dead and buried and they'll never come back because no one actually likes them. you can stop pretending to seem cool on the internet now.

>>712683792
in the building with the storybook about a little girl who can do magic, at the end when you finally read the whole thing and the magic words that the girl in the story uses to kill the monster to kill the big chained up monster blocking the way forward, any other monster you didn't kill also dies because the story in the book is (obviously) about Alessa

>>712683951
sorry but every "advancement" in video games made since the PS2 has been a net negative
unless you like how everything turned into corridor shooters with elevator or squeezing through narrow area loading screens, and also the black woman from MadTV being scanned into 50% of all video games released in the past 5 years
you're a fag and a zoomer

>>712683973
Oh, I guess that makes sense. I played the game like eight times and just interpreted it as taking you out of the Otherworld or something.

>>712684151
it does, but that's also because it's heather using her powers

the f stands for FAIL

>>712641101 (OP)
Why does this look like Siren if it couldn’t commit to the horror and had weird hit stop spastic combat?

>>712641101 (OP)
Exactly. Fucking retarded to call this a Silent Hill game.

>>712683486
I always find it funny how popular the OG RE4 is and that uses tank controls but whenever that is bought up there is a million justifications and excuses as to why it worked there or people why put up with it and how tank controls can now never be used again (The real reason for the majority of people is that they’re retarded and refuse to learn a new control scheme)

>>712685409
>why don't these damn young'uns want to use wired landlines instead of those new portable cellular devices that are infinitely more convenient to use?
Give it up, unc. Times move on.

>>712685847
>times move on
No they don't, you're likely playing more remakes of things from 20 years ago than anything else these days.
And all those remakes are gay, and you're a fag for having played them.

you know the story is gonna be this nip town is the root fo all evil and a american stole some soil and took it back too SH after WW2 and this towns evilness spread

>>712685409
Amazingly, the tank controls do create tension because they do not fight you. It's a 'git gud; scenario.

>>712687651
Hi, OP.

>>712685847
>Gay ass excuse to not learn a control scheme
>Gay ass modern lingo
Not disproving what I said

>>712683275
Nah dodge button is fine, but just give it a cooldown so James isn't just spazzing out and flash stepping with iframes like some Bloodborne character.

>>712684119
NTA but I went back and played through RE1 and RE2 just a few months ago and tank controls fucking suck. Just because you get used to them doesn't mean they aren't objectively inferior.

The way pooper team unironically turned my cutie patootie blonde himbo into this caricature i will never forgive them

>>712688310
>Objectively inferior
To what? What other style of controls allows for similar movement? The way Outbreak did it? Also, you didn’t say why they suck which helps separates shitter retards from those with actual gripes.

Insider (schizophrenic) here.
She is the birth mother of Alessa.
The game is set in the 60s.
SH1 has Alessa being born in the late 60s.
Dahlia is described as a "miko" (altar girl in Japanese religion).
We are shown two miko.
The game's true ending will be with Dahlia going back to the US with newborn Alessa.

>>712690940
you joke but it's like a fucking habit of japs to retroactively make many of their characters japanese related in the most retarded ways possible especially if they're main characters

>>712691350
I'm not joking.

>>712680281
>fear porn
hot

>>712641582
Gameplay mechanics and story are not similar to siren at all. You only think it's siren because it takes place in Japan.

>>712688310
>NTA but I went back and played through RE1 and RE2 just a few months ago
Your opinion could not possibly matter less.

>>712641101 (OP)
Clearly, Silent Hill were the friends we made along the way.

>>712668387
Siren has absolutely nothing in common with anything shown so far of F except for it's Japanese setting.
Have any of you actually played siren, or even watched a playthrough of siren???

Reading this thread has lead me to the conclusion that fucking NO ONE understands silent hill anymore.

God I can’t wait to drop these videos - you’ll be eating my slop up.
(I’m going to be talking a lot of shit yall are going to love, I get some love on here because of my connection with MP3)
See you guys soon <3

>>712683275
>>712688074
I-frame dodge buttons have no place in horror games. The boss fights in SH2R are literally discount Dark Souls.

>>712658957
Maybe I could help you pick them out?

I've only ever seen the movies, and I like them.

>>712695306
movies are the worst form of media

>>712695306
based
play the remake of 2 and the future remake of 1 and 3, you'll have a special experience.

Silent hill 2 remake was good enough, im excited for 1, silent hill 1 was always the better game

>>712678304
.Having something like bonfires and limited health potions would do wonders to a horror game.
I honestly thought it was ass in Clocktower 3

>>712641101 (OP)
Wasn't silent hill some sort of "eldritch location" that is actually sentient ("the city doesn't like when you don't follow its rules") that adapts itself to be the perfect representation of the person's mental state (that little girl from 2 only saw an empty town)? It makes sense a being like that can "manifest" even away from the "real" silent hill city.

>>712700825
Silent Hill tackles eldritch horror, liminality, abuse, insecurity, and womanhood. all of that was addressed in the 4 games the team silent made. To truly understand the Silent Hill franchise, people must interlock all the game's story together to get its themes.

speaking of which, does anyone here remember that before team silent dismantle, they were creating Silent Hill 5? They said back then they were going to expand the mythos of the series by exploring horror in the daylight. we could have gotten a new element of phenomena that interacts with the power of the town but be also separate which becomes its own mystery. But we were denied that and we got Silent Hill: Homecoming that took those scrapes ideas for something familiar. that's also the reason why we have gotten many bad games afterwards. Because Konami made those decisions. we don't even have a basic foundation due to them not understanding the series.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4owIDX6MKc&t=61s
Here's the video for an example of what I'm talking about.