Thread 712654980

I believe Silent Hill 4 to be underrated

>>712654980 (OP)
it's a half baked experiment. it's what it is.

>>712654980 (OP)
Light Yagami

SH4 was just a prototype for PT.

>>712654980 (OP)
I like things about it

>>712654980 (OP)
First half is completely fine, second half kind of goes to shit but so does every other silent hill after 2. 4 was fine, it's after 4 where silent hill completely fucking lost the plot.

>>712654980 (OP)
Best story from the first four SHs.

>>712654980 (OP)
It's pretty eerie, I like it. Somehow this game manages to unerve me with how demented the whole thing is unlike the other SH games.

>>712654980 (OP)
It has some very frustrating quirks and the second half does suck if you're not prepared for it.
In spite of all that it's still a very creative game and has very good atmosphere, shit feels like a fever dream from beginning to end.

>>712654980 (OP)
I believe it deserved a remake more than the first game

>>712656145
In a perfect world remakes would be reserved for flawed gems that would be amazing with some polish instead of just reselling you games that were already great but with shinier graffix.
Unfortunately the former is a tougher sell.

what happened to the Eileen shaving poster?

>>712656564
dead
I think I saw him recently

>>712656564
They're just slacking. He was in the remake announcement threads from a few days ago.

>>712655518
I agree with him. Walter S. is a fantastic and interesting villain when you do a deep dive on it. Circumcision memes need not apply.

OH THE SWEET SUGAR SAVES ME
ITS THE ROOM THAT CONFINES MEEEE

>spoopy ghosts flying around a subway
lame

>>712654980 (OP)
The parts are better than the sum

>>712654980 (OP)
SH4 is my favorite SH game. It's unironically a masterpiece.

If alternate timelines are real, just send me to one where Konami never disbanded Team Silent.

>>712655070
I wish the industry experimented far more, then. Certainly better than yet another Ass Creed or CoD copycat.

>>712654980 (OP)
Is my favorite.
I dont see why people like 3 so much.
Is it waifufags simping for Heather?

>>712654980 (OP)
Silent Hill 4 is GREAT. Truly the pinnacle of storytelling in our modern era. The Majora's Mask of horror games; brilliant yet misunderstood. A tour-de-force of germinating ideas, creating some of the most resilient immunities to boredom.

>>712660248
SH3 is just more straightforward, the backtracking in SH4 hurts it

>>712660248
SH3 has those awesome veiny walls that, to this day, still blow me away. I also like the atmosphere.

eileen eating a burger

>>712660817
huh?

>>712659151
>their next SH was gonna play with the concept of "fear in broad daylight"
Wonder how that would've been handled.

>>712660248
I feel like the 'issue' with SH3 is that it doesn't have anything that makes it stand out. SH1 was the first game, the one that established it all, and the one that retrospectivally has the cozy PS1 atmosphere going for it. SH2 is SH2, nuff said. SH4 has its experimental elements with its inventory system, AI companion, hub area, repetition of levels and focus on the central villain as the protagonist of the story almost, etc.
SH3 is comparison is just "fine". It does what it does really well, but it doesn't reinvent the wheel. It didn't need to, but it does mean it doesn't stand out as much. It's essentially a retelling of SH1 but on the PS2 as a direct sequel narratively. What makes it stand out is indeed having a female protagonist, and so the scares in the games tend to be tied more with femininity and women fears like stalking, unwanted pregnancy, abortion and the like.

>>712654980 (OP)
Same. Bet tons of people complaining about it never played it but rather watched some random YouTube video on it

>>712660817
what the fuck

it's the scariest from the whole saga, in spite of the slurping monkeys

>>712656564
He was here yesterday.

>>712660817
Now this is scary.

>>712654980 (OP)
It is an underrated game. SH 1-4 to me seem underrated despite how much praise they get online since its hard to tell just how much of it is actually astroturfing from the same few SH 1-4 enjoyers. Yeah it gets heaps of praise but the sales for the series have never reflected the praise. Its highly possible most normies were too chicken shit to buy and play the games though. Or maybe survival horror will just never sell well unless it is RE.

>>712660817
M-my expectations.. they're... subverted..!

>>712663042
what about the burping lanklets

Eileen shaving on the bed fully clothed where she sleeps and eats is actually disgusting

>>712654980 (OP)
Its cool story wise but going through each area twice is lame and the areas themselves also arent that interesting besides maybe the apartments
And Henry could be cooler too, we went from Heather who is the most outspoken Protagonist to Henry the least interesting one

>>712660817
I didn't know I wanted this.

>>712660817
WAOW

>>712660974
>The plot of Silent Hill 5 would have focused on a damaged human being summoned to Silent Hill, Maine for a very specific reason, described by Akira Yamaoka as "the darkest story we have come up with".
>Imamura speculated that some things would have to be cut to get past the ratings system.
>In contrast to the previous games in the series, Silent Hill 5 would have started off in Silent Hill as an everyday town with people going about their daily lives, which would slowly rot away as the game progresses.
>Taking inspiration from Texas Chain Saw Massacre and Jacob's Ladder, the game would have innovated the series with a brand new concept for daylight horror through a creepy sunny Otherworld, playing with the idea of how light interacts with darkness.
Sounds like kino was in the making. Whatever it was, it would have been way better than Homecoming, that's for sure.

It's funny because the original version of Resident Evil 5 was also going to focus on horror in broad daylight. I remember feeling pretty hyped at the time because it seemed like both RE and SH were exploring similar concepts, each in their own way, and were therefore slowly evolving together, hand in hand. But I didn't realized how wrong I was. RE5 ended up becoming a soulless action game while Konami disbanded team Silent and let cheap western studios rape the IP to death.

A part of me is convinced that there was a conspiracy against this "daylight horror" concept. Everything went to shit after 2005.

>>712663451
I think it's just a case of Silent Hill not being something everyone will enjoy, but if you're into the kind of things it's going for then you're gonna love it.
An easy comparison would be the work of David Lynch - people into more arthouse or difficult films are going to love it but the majority won't get it. But the people into it are more likely to be film people, and thus be in positions to spread their enthusiasm regarding what they like i.e. film websites, film magazines, journals, blogs etc.

Nevertheless Silent HIll has done pretty well considering what it is.

I unironically believe that this game could be great, IF it wasn't a silent hill but completely different game.
Movie could be also good, something like Dark Waters or similar.

>>712663631
Henry is literally me so I can have an Eileen gf.

>>712664235
>at the time it seemed like both RE and SH were exploring similar concepts, each in their own way, and were therefore slowly evolving together, hand in hand
>I didn't realized how wrong I was, RE5 ended up becoming a soulless action game while Konami disbanded team Silent and let cheap western studios rape the IP to death

>>712654980 (OP)
where can I play this now?

>>712665494
Emulate the PS2 version or buy the full version on GOG.

>>712660243
Play new Doom

Eileen shaving

>>712665494
https://www.gog.com/en/game/silent_hill_4_the_room
GOG recently restored the PS2 hauntings cut from the PC release

>>712664360
It was already a movie called The Cell. RE8 also ripped off Miranda's mask from it.

>>712664357
>I think it's just a case of Silent Hill not being something everyone will enjoy,
Most of its fans never even played the games. They watched video essays about the games.

>>712664671
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qalGezr76o

>>712660817
Kaufmann and Lisa after sex

>>712660817
burgi

>>712666493
that movie is great stylistically. Really great art direction

Eileen is cute and autistic. CUTE AND AUTSTIC

>>712669791
Same energy:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJkhg9J1Qkk

>>712654980 (OP)
You ever play it or you just watched youtubers play it and assumed its a good game?

>>712655070
This is the issue. the game actually has a lot of good ideas. The issue is that those ideas don't blend well together.

>>712660817
what the fuck

>>712655070
fpbp. It has a lot going for it, but playing it is a slog

>>712660817
Good. Her pits remain nice and hairy

>>712655070
Have they ever said how far along they got? It feels like a beta for a silent hill game that just got pushed out. I get going for a different idea, but the use of stock sound effects and enemies that don’t even match the area they’re in seems like they were just throwing assets together from old games mixed in with whatever they made for the actual game itself and just said “fuck it well do it live”. And that’s before you take into account the very obvious enemy placement and lack of balancing they did for most of the levels.

>r-remakes do not replace the original game!
>meanwhile can't even actually play a decent enough port of SH 1-4 without having to resort to piracy and emulation

>>712670698
I watched vinny vinesauce play it and all i could conclude is i'm better at mental mapping than him. Also replaying areas is a sure sign of an incomplete game.

>>712673882
But GOG version of 4 is good.

>>712673882
you being a retard is not the game's fault

>>712668682
>non Team Silent SH game

Yuck! Not canon

>>712654980 (OP)
For everything it does right it does something wrong.

>>712673072
Game was clearly rushed and Team Silent probably lost a lot of passion for the series at this point anyways since it was clear Konami wanted them to A) continue to milk the series and B) they weren't allowing the team much freedom or even allowing them to make other games. SH3 was definitely rushed and actually started development at first as a rail shooter of all things. Also iirc SH4 while was originally intended to be a different game from SH altogether it did still change into a SH game relatively early on in its development. Many seem to think it was supposed to be a whole other game and they just slapped the SH name on it but this isn't what I found out about its development.

>>712660817
what was the point of the peephole?

>>712655070
Better a experiment than the boring slog that was SH3.

>>712675480
SH3 and SH4 began development at the same time. SH4 was developed twice as long as SH3. That's why they are so different.

>>712664235
>Silent Hill 5 would have started off in Silent Hill as an everyday town with people going about their daily lives, which would slowly rot away as the game progresses.
that sounds cool

>>712675480
SH4 was meant to be a Silent Hill title from inception, that not being the case is an internet rumor

>>712664235
I remember this for RE5 but I never knew that there was all these plans for a SH5. This definitely could have been serious kino had they went through with it.

>>712664235
And then Kojima suggested giving Konami IPs to western devs.

>>712675703
so you can look at cute girl doing stuff

>>712675106
doesn't matter still better than 4

>>712654980 (OP)
weakest of the team silent games
still better than most shit out there

is the original 'second half of the game is just the first half in reverse' bullshit that DMC4 pulled

>>712678757
DMC4 did that?

>>712655094
y r u ge?