Why don't they just make more "4 guys in a row" games with different stories every year?

>Meguka
Being WoL is suffering...

>>712685806 (OP)
It wouldn't sell to zoom zooms who need subway surfer gameplay playing on a second monitor and a video essay playing on a third and they'll still need "action" gameplay to be satisfied

which of the pixel remaster FFs is /v/'s favorite, btw?

>>712685986
Why bother with the pixel remasters when the GBA versions are all fine?

>>712686054
The GBA versions are absolute garbage. Every GBA port of a non-GBA game is. Fucked up aspect ratios, fucked up sprites, fucked up colors, fucked up music... GBA ports are the categorically worst way to play any game that existed elsewhere first.

>>712686054
why emulate when you have native ports?

>>712685806 (OP)
They used to

>>712686157
It's fine and the pixel remasters are all ugly as sin, sorry.

>>712686170
Who said anything about emulating?

>>712686054
GBA versions poisoned the localizations of the future games, at least with 4 and especially 5. There is a line on the floating continent where Gestahl suggests making magical babies with Celes so 6's retranslation gets a pass.

>>712685806 (OP)
I wish they would. Kinda wish more RPG companies in general would reuse engines and assets to knock out a few games each batch, that's one good point about Owlcat even all their shit launches busted

>>712686054
just play the originals

>>712686403
ok then, why would i blow money on a gba when I can just play the better native port on PC?

>>712686054
Because I'd never played them because I was a PC supremacist and even though I could emulate them I wouldn't even want to soil myself with console filth, but as the decades rolled on I became more open to trying console games, particularly in my favorite genre, and so I buyed boughten the collection and played through them and now enjoy Final Fantasy even though I wish they kept being weird as fuck and didn't get as set in their ways with their chocobos and their Cids and their airships. Crystals are fine though, crystals should be central to every FF

>>712686054
ugly colors, bad audio, post-original content is poor
about the only thing they have over the original is bugfixes

>>712686978
I don't know, why didn't you have a GBA when they were still new and plentiful? Sounds like not my problem.

>>712687362
>about the only thing they have over the original is bugfixes
You say that like that isn't really fucking important or something, the bugs in the original and PS1 ports are really bad. Also fuck original FFIV having ATB combat but not actually having UI to show it, that's hilariously retarded and terrible.

>>712687141
Man I really don't understand the mindset of console vs PC or similar, it's fucking mental especially if you give a damn about Japanese games. I can't imagine being a Falcom fan in the mid-to-late 2000s and only being able to choose one or the other due to brain problems.

>>712685806 (OP)
Are we talking about Square Enix? Cause they literally do do that.
>2024: SaGa Emerald Beyond and Dragon Quest 3 HD
>2023: Phantasy Star Second Story R
>2022: Octopath Traveler 2 and Star Ocean 6
>2021: Dungeon Encounters and Bravely Default 2

>>712690374
This is false and we both know it, and those games don't count. The last real Square JRPG was over 2 decades ago, Final Fantasy X.
It took this long for someone else to rise up and replace them, and it happened with the arrival of Clair Obscur: Expedition 33.

>>712690542
Look even if you only want to count big budget AAA releases Dragon Quest XI was in 2017, which while almost a decade ago is relatively recent given modern dev cycles.

>>712690542
>These games don't count...because they just don't
you people are beyond pathetic

Almost done with my very first FF1 playthrough, I think (just got to the mirage tower) and holy shit, I can already tell that Marsh Cave and Terra Cavern are going to be THAT part on future playthroughs.
>paralysis zombie ambushes
>poison spider ambushes
>cockatrice ambushes
>poison slimes
>massive wolf packs that waste your time
>piscodemon quartet guarding Astos' crown
>terra cavern has to be visited TWICE to actually beat it
>all this shit early in the game where money is tight and your mages need to conserve their limited spells

>>712685806 (OP)
Issue is that most of those types of games have shit gameplay and rely on nostalgia and vibes.
There's only a handful that are good and most of them are made by Atlus.
FFX was the closest Squaresoft got to good turn-based gameplay and then Final Fantasy never did it again (in favor of weird variations of ATB and then mediocre action games).

>>712685986
None. The PRs are garbage.

>>712686465
What's wrong with the GBA localizations for 4 and 5?

>>712690854
You can't really engage with these people. They don't actually play games, so it is kind of pointless to. They played FF4 once on GBA 20 years ago and haven't played another RPG since.

>>712690542
Too ugly
It's FFX for normies that didn't play FFX because it didn't look western

>>712685806 (OP)
They used to do that, and it kicked ass. It was the golden age of gaming. Let's return to that age.

>>712691242
>Zero roleplay
>Fully linear moviegame
>Combat boils down to Quick Hit spam
>Zero character building options
>Somehow we have to believe this was good, let alone the best game Square shat out
I'd tell you to get some standards but you're clearly unable to if over 20 years later you think the best Square did was that dumpster fire

>>712691771
There's no roleplaying in any square game.

>>712685986
FFIII. It's not my favorite classic FF or anything, but as far as the Pixel Remasters go, it's the only one that's an unqualified improvement over any other version of the game. I also think FFV's PR is better than the GBA version, but not having the extra content is still a shame (even if I don't think you're missing much, you shouldn't have to settle).

>>712691816
Wrong, but you wouldn't know since the only Square "games" you play are Final Fantasy

>>712691906
Then list an example faggot.

>>712690374
>Phantasy Star Second Story R
That's a funny slip up. Thinking on it, I'm surprised we haven't seen a modern PS1-4 remaster or remake at this point from Sega. Or even just Generation 1 and 2 brought over in any capacity, I'm even more surprised those have stayed JP-Only to this day.

>>712685986
FF5 since I don't care about the graphics in that one

>>712692069
I love FF5's graphics, so I can't stand either the GBA or Pixel Remaster.

>>712690974
Yeah, any time I play FFI I usually spend about an hour killing giants outside of Elfheim to prep for the Swamp Cave. I don't get why they made it such a difficulty spike. The only other times you have close to that much trouble is if you try to do the Ice Cavern and Castle of Ordeals as early as possible, but it's still not as tense.

>>712691973
Anon here>>712690374 already did it for me, but since again, you don't play anything that isn't moviegame trash for mentally challenged bonobos you wouldn't know about that to begin with

>>712692002
The Sega AGES port of Phantasy Star I was really good too, dunno why they didn't do one for the other games as well.

Tokyo RPG Factory could have been that studio to make a yearly JRPG but no one bought their games

>>712692295
List any RP in those games.

>>712691242
None of Atlus games ever come close to anything Square shat.

>>712685986
I've only played 1 and 2 so far, but 2 is my favorite. They did my boy Guy dirty. Why didn't Leila dance with him at the end?

>>712692378
I bought I Am Setsuna, but it wasn't very good. Their other games didn't look much better.

>>712685806 (OP)
sqenix figured it out, they in fact do make (or remake) very low budget formulaic games yearly and the sell gorillion full priced copies

>>712690374
Star Ocean is an ARPG.

>>712692392
>Waste more time on me so I can keep shitposting and pretending facts aren't true
No, I don't think I will.
I would gladly talk about how something like Emerald Beyond handles RP and narrative through its experimental approach of a rubik cube campaign, but you're not the kind of person to deserve that effort, you're only here to shitpost and rot in your little world where only Final Fantasy exists.
The vast majority of people in here are like you, you don't care about roleplaying games.

>>712692002
>>712692356
I actually liked the Generation remakes on PS2 but I'll concede they're not actually that great.

>>712692295
Those are all just anime slop games.
No one cares about them which is why JRPGs have been getting absolutely thrashed by western RPGs of late. BG3 and COE33 have proven that it literally does not take much to blow Japanese slop out of the water.

>>712692678
So you have no evidence.
In fact no Square game has roleplay of any kind.
I accept your concession.

>>712686904
Many of the originals are buggy messes that got mostly fixed when they were ported to the Wonderswan, which every other rerelease is based on

>>712692703
>>712692737
bro pays for 4chan

>>712692703
>>712692737
embarassing

>>712685986
1
being able to turn off encounters when they start getting real annoying does the game a huge favour, that shit is obnoxious and it's not like you need the levels

>>712685806 (OP)
Why is the warrior the wrong color?

>>712692958
>being able to bypass the gameplay makes the game so much more enjoyable for my weak-willed brain

>>712685806 (OP)
Verily Op

>>712692898
>>712692942
Still no evidence.

>>712685806 (OP)
>TMNT never had a 4 guys in a row game

>>712693029
>hey this game is great but the encounter rate is a bit too high, especially because you quickly become overleveled, should be lowered a bit, unfortunately you can't do that so just hit OFF every so often
>"UGH YOU WANT TO SKIP THE GAMEPLAY HUH!?!? FUCKING CASUAL!!"
kill yourself retard

>>712685986
V
It was the only one I didn't play on the NES/SNES back in the day that I actually enjoyed when I played it emulated like 10 years after the original release.

I really like the job system and V did it better than III. That said III's vision of the multiple world maps was really fun and discoving that the original world map was just a fraction of the world above the rest was incredible. That part was on par with VI's transition to the World of Darkness.

Man, I love the classic FF games so much. 7 was okay, 8 was meh, 9 was soul but unloved in its own time. The first 6 are timeless. I for being the first JRPG I ever owned. II because the scope and experimentation. III for its innovation. IV for it's narrative scope and characterizations. V for the depth of system and engagement. VI for being all of the above and beyond. I don't fuck with anything post else IX except XII. XII was a brilliant idea executed in a flawed way, and with bad graphics.

But I am old so my opinion can be disregarded since I don't like the fortnites or deer raping games.

>>712693207
You didn't beat the game. You cheated not only the game, but yourself.

>>712693291
>you didn't become overpowered in order to keep the challenge, so you didn't beat it
you're fucking stupid and trying way too hard

>>712692958
>>712693029
>>712693207
Why didn't more games adopt the insta win option that Earthbound had?

>>712685986
I only played 1-3 but only 3 felt like it needed to exist, so 3

>>712693103
>This turn based game with multiple main characters, multiple endings, ridiculously nonlinear campaigns, freeform character building and constant choices does not have roleplay...because it just doesn't
>BG3 does tho
>And it's the best RPG ever made together with E33 and FFX, fr fr

>>712693148
There is literally a Ninja Turtle 4NIAR JRPG.

>>712693209
>9 was soul but unloved in its own time.
This is such a weird revision. It was hyped as fuck (it even had tv promotionals), got insanely high reviews, all the kids were talking about it in class (while I was still playing 7 because I only had a PC), and has been loved since.

>>712693683
Thanks for putting words in my mouth.
Also,
>multiple main characters
Not roleplay.
>multiple endings
Not roleplay.
>ridiculously nonlinear campaigns
Not roleplay.
>freeform character building
Not roleplay.
>constant choices
Like? Tell me. Which games and what meaningful choices can you actually make.

>>712693686
I am literally playing it right now.

>>712693148
Please take your brainmeds, retardchama

>>712693890
oh my god you are a retarded faggot

>>712693714
It was hyped building off of the praise of 7 and 8. But on God, in like 99 or whenever it came out all my friends who got into JRPGs with 7 absolutely despised it for being cutesy and not as serious. Yes I know the game is very serious, but to most people that casually played rentals in the late 90s, i.e. most people in the use, they didn't get that far and only saw the window dressings. I was a dyed in the wool JRPG appreciator from FFI and Dragon Warrior back in the NES days. I caught so much shit from my friends for that shit until FF7 came out and they were wowed. The average person did not like it.

>>712694046
Found the guy that's never played an actual rpg.

>>712693890
>Nuh-uh none of that is roleplay...unless BG3 does it
Like clockwork, as I said, you're nothing but a subhuman shitposter

>>712694194
BG3 isn't a roleplaying game either you retarded faggot.

>>712690374
SaGa is a really cool series, glad the same dude is still heading it to this day. Also nice that every title aside from Unlimited is now available on modern systems.

>>712685806 (OP)

>>712694269
you can play the role of a guy that gets fucked in the ass by a druid, ergo it is a role playing game.

It was cool when even harry potter got a jrpg game

>>712694306
Wrong.
You have no ability to alter the story. Therefore it is not a roleplaying game.

>>712685806 (OP)
Because its a boring combat system that was phased out as technology improved and possibilities increased

You guys did wishlist the fantasy holocaust game where you play as an SS soldier right?

>>712694283
>OP asks about games that have new stories every year in the four niggers in a row genre
<retard post a pic clearly showing a game that did not have a new game in the four niggers in a row genre every year
/v/eddit really is just ESL teenage spics, and middle aged pajeet pedophiles, isn't it?

ngl feels pretty weird being the last White man on 4chan.
Remember us. Remember that we once lived.

>>712694383
Your are able to decide what race you are when you get fucked in the ass by a druid, and even what class that gets raped in the ass.

Far deeper roly poly than anything Fumble Failure ever gave you.

>>712694078
I guess it depends on the crowd. All my friends were video gamers who played everything including N64 games, so there was no proto-dudebro disdain.
I'd also like to add that there is this mass delusion people have that FF7 is not a silly, melodramatic anime game with chibi characters and a walking cat mascot. FF7 and 9 are the same level of serious.

>>712694383
>You have no ability to alter the story.
You do, that's also not a fundamental requisite even on tabletop

>>712694696
If you do not have the power to say "fuck this story I'll go over here and do something else" then its not an rpg.
On tabletop, I can tell the GM "I don't want to get involved in this guild war, I'll just hop on a boat and go to the other continent".
You literally cannot do that in any Square game.

>>712692958
I played the game normally until I was right in front of Chaos and realized I forgot to give the Dwarf Adamantite for Excalibur and I still needed to fight Warmech for the bestiary. Turning off encounters to leave the dungeon was a huge relief. The random encounter rate in FF1 is annoyingly high

>>712694881
>cheating

>>712687141
>I'd never played them because I was a PC supremacist and even though I could emulate them I wouldn't even want to soil myself with console filth
Good lord, you’re an immense faggot

>>712685806 (OP)
It is a tired, overdone and boring genre. If the barrier to entry was as low as writing we would get them though.

>>712695084
They're the thinking man's genre. I can see you not liking it.

>>712694629
No one in 2025 has any delusions about 7 being otherwise unless they are manchildren stuck in 1996. However if you lived in 1996 it was mind blowing next gen graphics and you were accustomed to taking abstracts presented in low poly previous gen games and expanding them in your mind to make them much grander than they actually were.

I think a lot of people that didn't grow up in that era are completely oblicious to how awe inspiring 7 was when it came out. Wild Arms came out the year before, but is almost completely forgotten by the modern audience because the 3d stuff was just in combat and the rest is sprite work. The cutscenes in FF7 melted nigger's brains. Hell I remember the run up to Christmas 1996 having one of my friends literally run two blocks to my house to ask me if I had seen the commercials for ff7 and asking if he could borrow FF1, 2, and 3 so he could catch up on the story. It was a really amusing afternoon explaining how the games weren't really connected but shared a few elements, and then walking him through the opening sequence of FF2(FFIV) and him being genuinely impressed when the town burned down.

Also the OG Wild Arms deserves way more love than it gets from the modern audience. It walked so FF could run. Plus it is just fun af.

Also we weren't proto-dudebros. We were just normal kids who played sports and had girlfriends which was normal back in the day before the internet destroyed everyone's mind. I mean I was a dudebro, but in general the distain for cutesy kiddie looking shit back in the day was considered normal, and men (boys in this case) who didn't have that disdain was considered gay and made you a target for bullying unless you were a low IQ sociopathic jock like I was who would punch people for trying to talk shit about something I enjoyed.

>>712694867
>If you do not have the power to say "fuck this story I'll go over here and do something else" then its not an rpg.
So something like Tomb of Horrors or Dragons of Despair aren't RPG campaigns according to (You), good to know you're retarded.
>On tabletop, I can tell the GM "I don't want to get involved in this guild war, I'll just hop on a boat and go to the other continent"
And the GM fiat is still absolute anyway so your annoying contrarianism does not matter, you're still wholly contained within the limits of a module so you can't tell the GM that you're not doing the core content of module, retard.
>You literally cannot do that in any Square game.
You literally can, again, if you actually played something like Emerald Beyond, or really any post GB SaGa you'd know, they're hated by normalfags like you precisely because of that.
But you didn't, you're just a subhuman shitposter who doesn't play shit.

>>712685806 (OP)
>4 dudes in a row
Are you that afraid of saying nigga
Who cares if chuds get mad

>>712693490
>instantly kill anything that's too low level to pose a threat
>enemies run away from you as you exit a dungeon after you beat the boss
These 2 features should have become standard in every JRPG after Earthbound, the quality of life improvement from not wasting your time with weak enemies is incredible.

>>712695353
If the GM says GM fiat and prevents you from going off the rails, then he's a shitty GM.

>>712695221
I was blown away by FF7 and I played it in 2000, when there was nothing groundbreaking about the graphics at all (I did like the way it looked).
But I found FF9 to be even darker in themes, and even overall atmosphere. I've always found the art style a little grotesque, though. I understand why people don't like it. I still, to this day, do not like the FMVs. Detailed Steiner is ghoulish.

>>712693490
It doesn't solve anything and rewards the player for doing absolutely nothing.
Allowing the player to bypass battles they've earned the right to skip (e.g. battles that no longer pose a meaningful threat) with no reward, and providing a reliable means of escape instead of RNG-based escape is a superior solution.

>>712686054
Good question.
I think the GBA ports are the best you can get before they made all the UI look like your phone's.

>>712695397
ok nigger

>>712686170
Who cares about native ports when the game is so old you can play it on a calculator?

>>712695551
>Hey anon, wanna play tomb of horrors?
>"Sure bro"
>...
>"WTF I don't want to go beat the shit of Acererak what do you mean that's the point of the module? You're a shitty GM"
Maybe one day you'll actually play at a table with other people instead of pretending you do

>>712685806 (OP)
JUST GIVE ME MORE IVALICE
FUCK

>>712695738
I literally just got done playing d&d 5e as a 7th level barbarian just two hours ago.
And for the record I play other games too. That's just the saturday game.
And no one considers playing a one-off dungeon module like Tomb of Horrors roleplay.

>>712695602
>Allowing the player to bypass battles they've earned the right to skip (e.g. battles that no longer pose a meaningful threat) with no reward
This needs to be standard in all turn based RPGs with random encounters. Unlike action games with stats and levels where it can be fun to slice through underleveled mooks as you're exploring, there is literally nothing fun about getting interrupted for a minute every few steps to press A and sit through menus in battles you're guaranteed to win without a scratch.

The best solution is and will always be having visible enemy sprites on the overworld map though.

>>712695656
>I think the GBA ports are the best you can get before they made all the UI look like your phone's.
This is basically my problem, all the visual changes after the GBA versions are fucking UI disasters.

I just don't get Square-Enix with its remakes.

Star Ocean, not nearly as well known as Final Fantasy or even the SaGa series? Gets the full-on "HD-2D" treatment. SaGa games? Remake every single one. Live Alive? Same thing. Dragon Quest's Erdrick trilogy? You bet.

Final Fantasy gets fucking "pixel remasters"? What fucking gives? Are they that protective of these early installments that they think they still need to hold those back until they can do the big fucking 3D remake like they did with VII?

>>712691426
I'm curious about this too

>>712695983
That's because they are bloated high res games pretending to be low res.
Besides the UI, I especially hate the particle effects that look like something out of an asset pack and stick out like a sore thumb.

>>712696046
I don't hate hd2d, but classics should be preserved, not remade over and over. PR was right aside from not including bonus dungeons.

>>712696046
They did make full 3D remake of FFIII and FFIV for DS, with voice acting and everything. And they look like absolute ass.

>>712696046
Yep. That's literally it.

>>712685806 (OP)
Are there any pokemon-likes that use this sort of battle perspective or even battle system? Has Final Fantasy itself ever had a monster collecting spinoff game? I know Dragon's Quest has but I never played that series.

>>712696046
Remakes are cancer and proof that the industry is fucking dying.

>>712696219
Everything in this sentence is wrong other than the fact that they did, in fact release 3D FFIII and IV remakes on the DS.

>>712696343
>There is no voice acting
>They don't look like ass
I don't know who you expect to fool with this but good for you I guess.

>>712695564
I was kinda ehhh on FF9 except for the systems when it came out. Replayed it in like 2013(I think? It was the same year as the ebola memes and gamegate) and the graphics absolutely charmed me and I found the story a lot more subtle and plaintively self-reflective than my teenage self had been able to appreciate when it first came out. Out of the entire original PS FFs 9 holds up as my absolute favorite. The weapon/item skill learning shit was a masterful system that I wish was used more often. Ignoring the systems shit I can go on youtube right now, pull up videos of the cutscenes from 7, 8, and 9 and 90% of the time will think the cutscenes for 9 were more fluid, charming, and emotionally expressive than 7 or 8. That other 10% is exclusively reserved for Aerith's death and the airship/weapon/magitech scenes in 7.

I don't care for 8 outside of the character designs and the card game. I found the cutscenes tiresome, the junction system tedious, the story incoherent even by FF standards, and the character's personality obnoxious. But the characters all look visually engaging, and the card game was super sick. Also the song for the card game was so good that even after dumping dozens of hours into playing the card game I still bopped along with the beat when it played.

Do people really not like how the Pixel Remasters look? I always thought they looked great. The mobile ports that they put on Steam years ago on the other hand never sat well with me

>>712696607
Pixel Remasters look terrible.

>>712696607
They look worse than the Wonderwan ports.

>>712696434
I've played FF3 3D many, many times, on both ipod and PSP. I can assure you there is no voice acting and it looks amazing, you mongoloid.

>>712696324
For movies, yes, remakes generally suck because it's so much about having the right cast and even the right cultural moment in time. But with games, they've evolved so rapidly that a remake isn't on its face a terrible idea, especially if there's the opportunity to improve mechanics that were faulty or outright did NOT work properly (Nasir Gebelli's code making Ultima fucking worthless in FF2, for instance).

When I think of a remake, I'm not thinking of longer drawn out cutscenes or even needing voice acting. I'm thinking of just making the world come alive, making boss battles more fun, and so on. Shit, you guys would hate me cause I'd want to build off VII Rebirth's combat system so give even more depth to the boss battles.

Like in IV, there's the battle with the Octomammoth boss, and in the original you can tell it's closer to dying when its arms disappear one by one. Imagine in a real-time action combat this means having to avoid the tentacles grabbing you from underwater and also making sure to get out of the water before Tella casts lightning on the thing so you can get a few more hacks in. It could get more complex than that. And for that I'm not asking for the level of visual polish VII Rebirth has, low-poly 3D could work, too. A remake that would mean taking everything the game did well and making it even better.

>>712696046
>Are they that protective of these early installments that they think they still need to hold those back until they can do the big fucking 3D remake like they did with VII?
Yes, they are Square's most beloved games and it would be so labor and resource intensive to do most of them to modern standards that rereleasing them close to the original form is the best compromise between the yellow jew's desire to covet money, and the yellow aryan's knowledge that over-exploitation of the IP will kill the golden goose.
I remember Yoshi P doing an interview after the release of 7 Remake when he was asked when a 6 remake would be made only to have Yoshi P apologize because translating 6 into current gen graphics would cost too much money and take too much time to make without cutting corners which could hurt the consumer's memory and perception of the original.

>>712696682
The FFIV remake has voice acting, both English and Japanese, dumbass.
>it looks amazing
Lol.

>>712696594
I love the music and ability system in 9

>>712696607
I think they look good

>>712696594
8 is a great game, but it is sandwiched between two all time classics. It is my least favorite of the classic Final Fantasy games (that I actually like, so 3-10), but I did replay it last year for the first time in absolutely ages, and you know what, people hating on it are out of their minds. Great graphics, great music, interesting world, interesting junction system. Characters are...eh, when Squall is by far the most interesting character you know you have a kind of weak cast.

>>712696923
Moving those goalposts already. I'm guessing you didn't even play 3.

Can we just get a FFT:WotL remake that doesn't slow down to a FUCKING 1 FPS CRAWL WHEN I START SPAMMING HIGH EFFECT SKILLS?

Legitimately the living art style of the remake, and the subtle changes it made were perfect and I would hold that game up as the best example of a Remake/Rerelease ever done if it wasn't for the fact IT WOULD TAKE ME AN ENTIRE BATTERY CHARGE TO GET THROUGH THE MIDNIGHT'S DEEP BECAUSE IT WOULD TAKE AN HOUR TO RUN A FULL TURN

WHY THE FUCK DID THEY DECIDE TO MAKE THAT A MOBILE TITLE IF THEY KNEW THE PSP COULDN'T HANDLE IT. ONG I THINK I AM GOING TO HAVE A STROKE JUST THINKING ABOUT HOW SUCH AN AMAZING GAME WAS COMPLETELY FUCKED BY THE HARDWARE IT RAN ON

I GOD PLEASE LET ME DIE FROM THIS STROKE NOW SO I CAN BE SPARED OF THIS ANGER. IF I LIVE I WILL EMBARK ON A RAPEKRIEG OF YOUR CHOSEN PEOPLE AND MURDER THEM ALL WITH MY MASSIVE MAN MEAT

>>712697138
>Everything in the post is wrong
>Turns out it wasn't
You didn't know FFIV had bilingual voice acting, did you? Maybe keep your stupid opinions to yourself next time.

>>712696995
pic rel

>>712697086
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQCU36pkH7c

>>712696846
Fixing bugs hasn't been the goal of remakes for at least 20 years.
In fact, sure, it would make sense to remake games that can be easily improved upon, but that's not what they do.
Instead, they remake stuff that is already popular because it's more likely to sell copies.
You are a tool and in 10 years when they start remaking remakes I hope this gets through your thick skull.

>>712697562
>You are a tool and in 10 years when they start remaking remakes I hope this gets through your thick skull.
It won't. If he hasn't figure it by now he never will.

>>712696046
>Gets the full-on "HD-2D" treatment.
It was only for SO2 and it was a desperate move on SE part to try to revitalize the brand, it was so desperate in fact that it wasn't even done by Tri-Ace.
Tri-Ace is dead for all intents and purposes.
>Remake every single one.
The only recent remake was RS2 ROTS, which was again, a desperate move to try and make the franchise popular with zoomers by bastardizing it into an Octopath game and taking it away from its actual creators, the rest were remasters that nobody but the few surviving fans cared about and the recent mainlines have been made with a nonexistent budget because for some reason SE still doesn't want to acknowledge that one of their most lucrative franchises in the last decade exists.
Live A Live was them throwing a bone to Tokita after so many years and DQ is DQ.

Final Fantasy always gets the lion's share while everyone else is treated as a third rate citizen and you still want more money poured into that zombie franchise? Are you insane? Not only do they burn millions on mainlines like FF16 at the cost of crippling literally everyone else in the company, now you want even more FF than what we're already getting? When they still haven't finished their FF7 trilogy remake? After that ultracringe FF1 spinoff with Stranger of Paradise? For what fucking reason, anon?

>>712697305
> full 3D remake of FFIII and FFIV for DS, with voice acting and everything.
This is an incorrect statement. Along with all of your other nonsense.

>>712685986
3 because fuck the 3D version
would say 6 but only for the opera scene

God forbid they try something new

>>712697747
A lot of the new mechanics are cool, but Draw isn't. Drawing to collect is tedious and drawing offensively isn't even good.

>>712685806 (OP)
Why do you turn-based niggers always pretend the Bravely Default, Octopath, and Dragon Quest series don't exist?

>>712697821
Yes, it exists purely as a crutch for retards who never opened the GF ability list and got the -RF abilities like you're supposed to so you can burn up all those Wizard Stones the game showers upon you.

>>712697686
It's partially incorrect, you claimed it EVERYTHING was incorrect, the one moving the goalposts is you. I will concede that I didn't play the FFIII remake but it's also obvious that you didn't play the FFIV remake or you'd remember the very obvious and kind of lame voice acting. So I guess that makes us even. Have a nice day.

>>712697848
Octopath is just a bad concept. I don't want 8 separate stories, I want one story.
Bravely Default is like 3 games in 15 years

>>712697848
I personally don't like them, therefore they don't exist. It's that simple.

>>712697747
Drawing is probably the worst thing added to the game next to enemies level scaling

>>712685806 (OP)
>"4 guys in a row"
niggas. its called 4 niggas in a row

>>712697848
Because they are nostalgiafags who like one FF game they played when they were a kid. They actively hate and seethe about other games in the series, forget new games (which aren't AAA slop so they usually don't know they even exist).

>>712698075
4 fellas in a row
4 buddies in a row
4 chums in a row

>>712697937
The concept is good, the execution is what's bad.

>>712698075
>>712698126
But what's better 3 or 4 in a row?

>>712698417
4, but 3 is fine

>>712698417
More options.

>>712698417
Both are fine

>>712698349
No, I think the concept is kind of bad and holds them back. I do like Octopath, overall, though. The amazing vibes and fun battle system really carry them.
In a game like Romancing Saga 3, you do NOT play every character's story, even though you can recruit them. Also, it is much shorter and to the point because it is a tiny SNES game. Once you get to characters you don't really give a shit about, Octopath starts to drag. 2 improves this by having more interesting characters overall, but has the same fundamental problem. Thee games are way too damn long, yet at the same time, paradoxically don't go deep enough with the characters. Also many, many stories are wrapped up in absolutely unsatisfactory manners. To use two characters that actually have stories that are very intriguing; Primrose's story conclusion is truly ridiculous, and Olberic's final boss is a nothing, because he confronts his rival in the penultimate chapter.

Expedition 33 and Altus has shown that its still a profit endevor to do this. Why aren't you making those games, anon?

>>712696046
Because one of the old guards, Akatoshi Kawazu, that made the SaGa series is still there unlike many others that bailed over the decades. So yeah, he wants his games to be more widely available and make new installments.

>>712690974
That's what's fun about ff1, there's a lot of bullshit and there's a lot of reward.
The more "fair" ones tend to lose a lot of that tension of just knowing that there's some bullshit ready to fuck your entire shit up just around the corner.

>>712698906
I'm kind of eating my words with the Romancing Saga 2 remake. I like it.
I guess there are remakes I do like, but I basically dismiss remakes out of hand because 99.9% of them are pointless or demakes.
I think it helps that RS2 had legitimately bad graphics. The SNES game has abysmal tiled backgrounds and the mobile port looks like an amateur RPG maker game.
The only good thing about the graphics, the character sprites, are featured in the loading screens.
Gameplay is not the same though, so it doesn't exactly replace it.

>>712698720
Octopath is literally styled after Romancing SaGa 1/3, those games all have their eight MCs with their separate stories just like Octopath, the difference is that SaGa actually makes you commit to the MC you choose in the sense that you can only play as them for the entire run and have to deal with the ups and downs and their unique quirks.
For some reason though Octopath forces you to play as all the MCs in a single run, while also refusing to put even a tiny fraction of the detail the SaGa games have in terms of progression and content, which is why I said the execution is bad, it tries to be Romancing SaGa without understanding why and how Romancing SaGa handles its multiple main characters.
if Octopath played more like those games many of its design issues would be easily fixed, but Asano stubbornly insisted on this weird middle ground of a FF5 system in a SaGa-ish framework which doesn't really work, especially not when the content is so samey and you refuse to actually capitalize on having multiple main characters with supposedly unique skillsets.

>>712696046
Didn't they come out before all the 2DHD shit?

>>712699074
The last FF that was actually based in terms of encounter design bullshit was 4. The path to the land of the summoned beasts alone was fraught with all kinds of insane ass multi-Malboro battles and bullshit designed to show you hell. Clinging for dear life every step of the way was all part of the fun.

>>712699424
That's kind of what I mean though. The episodic format and playing every character's story IS Octopath's core concept. It is fundamentally flawed. That's why in 2 they start trying to make episodes different lengths and different mixes of story and combat, because they definitely know it doesn't work well and they are trying to get around that without dropping the concept.

>>712685986
FF3PR made it my favorite retro FF. Only played 2, 4 and 5 PR. Played the rest/same normally.

>>712685806 (OP)
Just played FFXVI for the first time and I'm fucking pissed and sad.
How do you have this level of production, polish, good art, great soundtrack, fun combat, and still manage to churn out this linear, braindead, movieslop garbage?
No real gear progression. No builds. No exploration. No choice. Just hallways, cutscenes, and quicktime event boss fights.
Total waste of potential.
I genuinely hope Naoki Yoshida and every other hack behind this lose their jobs and never touch another RPG again. Fuckers turned what could’ve been GOTY into a fucking cutscene simulator.
Lazy pieces of shit. Linear design in RPGs should be a crime in 2025.

But they did anon
The whole library of the Ps1 and ps2

>>712685986
Uhhh 8 play the GBA versions? Pixel remaster menus are so fucking ugly

>>712685986
One of 3,5 or 6. Although i don't really like how flattened the character sprites feel and the fonts are ugly.

I refuse to believe that WASN'T the intent behind creating the pixel remaster engine, but I think because 2DHD had been such an insane hit that they opted to push development away from it to 2DHD.

There were tons of rumors of ports of dimensions 1 to pixel remaster engine as a new title, and... It just didn't happen.

>>712686978
I emulated it on phone, its comfy and spritework is kino

>>712694489
xivniggers aren't white

>>712685806 (OP)
because square hates you and what you love

>>712697717
>3 because fuck the 3D version
the 3d remake is great

>>712694867
>On tabletop, I can tell the GM "I don't want to get involved in this guild war, I'll just hop on a boat and go to the other continent".
FFI has a map and you can go, ignore everything and hop on a boat aimlessly wherever. Therefore, it's a rp-ing game.

>>712685806 (OP)
They* do, you're just not playing them
(*indies)

>doing my first ever fiesta run
>get mages
>get more mages
>aw yeah we can just nuke everything
>this motherfucker shows up
Aw shit

>>712690974
>>712692284
Funny enough the squidbois being such fuckers is because of how closely FF1 apes the D&D. It's why the upgraded version in the ice cavern have instant death physical attacks.

>>712685806 (OP)
My favorite is four guys from different time periods in a grid.

>>712706205
Break some rods nigga

>is the most underrated niggas in a row game in you're path

>>712707494
Nah, that shit was broken. You could cheese the whole game with auto heals from the elf chick and literally never die.

>>712707334
Only carries you some of the way.

>>712697848
Because supporting those games would be supporting Square's hypocrisy.
>turn-based jRPGs dont sell, that's why FF needs to be action combat
>however we wont commit to that decision and choose to make turn-based jRPGs anyway
>we will also act surprised when they sell well but refuse to take the hint, FF stays action combat
If that thing is flying over your head then you're hopeless.

Not that faggot, but if FF becoming a god damn DMC game didn't clue you in, you are beyond saving. What more do you need, to tell you that this series is beyond saving. Look, I love FF 1-9 as much as anyone else, and I'll overlook everyone pretending FFX fits within that series despite the unforgivable lack of a world map. Sure, FFX-2 had a great battle system. But I can't pretend the unbelievable degradation of the series beyond that point is ignorable. No fucking way you didn't notice it. Give me an acceptable argument otherwise.

>>712685806 (OP)
They used to do that, and it was called Final Fantasy and it sold 5m+ every time.

Pic related is part of Steam Next Fest. You don't just get 4 niggas in a row, you get to actively swap up to 4 other niggas in as a normal combat menu function. In the demo, there's a fight where you have your 4 starting dudes, 1 'main' character who's a military NCO and 3 of his soldiers. You go up against an enemy who's basically impervious to your attacks, and he calls out to swap one of your other dudes for the reserve soldier, who has an ability that does damage to the enemy. Also, both your reserve and frontliners all get the same experience so you don't have to autistically cycle each tard through the line just to level up. Its a good system.

>>712703320
2DHD at least seems to be trying to make "best versions" of each game. The Pixel Remasters basically shit the bed by not including all the content of the iterations that came out before, but in PR style. FFIV is a good example - they give you the bare bones version of the SNES version instead of something with all the content of either
>PSP Complete Collection
>3D Remake
but with the 2D remastered engine. Likewise, they could have done FFIII with the 3D version's additional story/character elements. The other games vary more significantly but still, some lost opportunities.

>>712711679
>vertically oriented instead of horizontal
>remember the FFX turn order list?!?!?!?
cringed out of my skull and died, thanks faggot

>>712686157
I dunno breath of fire 1 and 2 were an upgrade(new areas and much enhanced graphics), same with bahamut lagoon, metroid zero mission(extended version of metroid 1) and lufia(lufia 2 and 3 with some extras, way better than the psp vers).

Also the circle of the moon was an actual sequel to vampires kiss(It's hard, sort of possible, just like master system 2)...

>>712711679
>cringe indie pixel oversaturated colors slop game
>rips off of Final Fantasy X wholesale
>conveniently forgets to mention anything about the title of the game
I see through your bullshit. You're the dev. You're advertising. You're trying to get people to ask "LMAO WUT GAEM" for artificial engagement purposes - because an answer that feels "earned" sticks with someone longer than if you'd simply dispensed the information willingly. I have only one thing to say to you: BUY AN AD.

>>712712136
Whatever FFX inspired trauma you have sperging out over minutia like that not withstanding, I don't see the point of this hissy fit. There are plenty of games with similar layouts including FFT. Vertical alignment for the turn order makes sense given the way the battle position is set up with the players at the bottom of the screen facing the enemy at the top of it. What, do you want the fucking info box to be vertically aligned? If the enemy configuration was like OP's pic, it would be horizontal.

>>712713038
Your samefaggotry is showing and now have moved onto HURRDURR SHILL. You just want to whine about cringe like the shrunken dicked zoomer you are, none of that shit matters to you. If it had been a muted color pallet you'd screech about that and if I named the game you'd be dilating yourself in rage and having the same BUY AD SHILL meltdown.

>>712713402
your very stupid

>>712685806 (OP)
Won't sell as much and pixel talent is rare. Games like mercaneries lament exist, but they are boring af.

>>712711679
That's an ugly game alright. Ap %? Eww. I hope for you that mechanics and story is great, because I won't playing it, even if you pay me. The farthest right character seems to have a smiley on his back. If you are a solo dev, it's ok, I guess, but for your next game try to get a successful ks campaign and make a decent part 2. The game should have a name, too.

I have RPG Maker XP and OHR.RPG.CE
Should I use one of them or get a different version of RPG Maker?

>>712713940
Switch to 2003+Maniacs Patch NOW.

>>712714098
>Maniacs
SMT Nocturne?

>>712714128
Nope. Better. It allows you to make things beyond what you ever imagined in the humble 2k3 engine.

>>712696219
FFIII doesn’t have voice acting and I quite like the chibi style

>>712685806 (OP)

They do, the company is called Kemco and their games are usually mobile and Switch games.

>>712696219
Where the 3d remakes for 5 and 6
1 and 2 should have gotten them to but they weirdly got psp 2d remakes instead

>>712685986
None. I absolutely despise the artistic style. Why do pixel games from the PS1, WonderSwan Color and GBA era look so much better? I'm absolutely disgusted by the Pixel Remasters. The art style of FF1 and FF2 on the GBA and PSP is still unmatched to this day, and I replay these games at least once a year

>>712714692
>I quite like the chibi style
Yeah, it looks nice and charming in, say, Bravely Default, but the assets for the DS games are really shoddy and don't hold up well, especially compared to the 2D versions of FFIV.

>>712715838
Who the fuck knows, the way Squeenix handled its IPs for the past few decades is absolutely baffling.

>>712715838
>Where the 3d remakes for 5
We have 4 heroes of light and Bravely series.

>>712716086
The PSP sprites are hideous what fucking drugs are you on? But I do agree that the PS1 versions look the best.

>>712693891
Wait, what in the world is this? Is this some RPGmaker thing? Googling TMNT RPG just returns some TTRPG...

>>712685806 (OP)
Not every year but between the Bravely Default and Octopath Traveler games you've got four solid games plus Bravely Default II

Dragon Quest III remake was pretty goated and it looks like at least DQII HD is getting a sizable upgrade.

Atlus used to make a bunch but they're a Persona factory now.

>>712720427
100% rpg maker.

>>712720603
Dq 2 hd? The remake? Hope it gets 3rd person combat.

>>712694867
>be a GM
>player tells me they have no interest in anything I prepped
I would tell you that this is what I prepped and if we can't get your character over to the game I laid out then we should play a board game or vidya instead

This motherfucker just shows up to someone's house for dinner and tells them they don't want to eat anything they made fuckin asshole