What's the consensus on these?

>>712690205 (OP)
its good if someone already pays for the family service and you are one of the eight that can use it.

If you have the money the expansion pack is an incredible value.

Yeah yeah, I know, "emulate it fag".

>>712690205 (OP)
It's a fucking scam.

>>712690291
>Yeah yeah, I know, "emulate it fag".
So do it fag

Worth it for octo expac alone

>>712690205 (OP)

>>712690313
Make me.

>>712690205 (OP)
HOW ABOUT A PROPER FUCKING VIRTUAL CONSOLE
NINTENDO YOU STUPID MOTHERFUCKERS
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

The emulated games are just a bonus. The gameboy selection is fantastic, and the SNES selection, while obviously limited, does have some of the best games on the platform in there. NES selection is pretty lame. It contains games like Ninja Gaiden, one of the best games ever made (not 2 or 3 of course, that's asking too much), but then also a whole lot of nothing.

>>712690205 (OP)
It's ok, I don't understand why they don't make every old first party game available through nso

>>712690440
Metroid is fun

>>712690443
>I don't understand why they don't make every old first party game available through nso
>>712690296

>>712690440
Genesis selection is pretty good too.

>>712690205 (OP)
I refuse to pay extra for online multiplayer.

>>712690205 (OP)
Is good just because they have only removed 1 game since it released, the library of game just keep expanding and thats great... Unless they increase the price (they already did that on mexico)

>>712690205 (OP)
I find it difficult to imagine that there is an audience of people who are actually interested in playing old-ass games but are somehow not willing to emulate, but clearly the audience must exist for Ninty to be able to make money off the expansion pass.

>>712690205 (OP)
you are beholden to the selection nintendo has available for you, so it's worse than emulating by yourself. but if you're lazy it's not the worst thing in the world.

nso is the worst paid online service by far but it's also the cheapest. you get what you pay for.

>>712691765
My kid likes playing the old games & having a lot on the Switch itself is nice rather than fucking with PC emulators.

The $20 plan is worth it at least just for cloud saves imo, the online & couple emulators is a bonus.

the family plan is still ridiculously cheap
got a year sub for 8.75 when i split it with three friends.

>>712691765
You still think people pay NSO for emulation only?

It's cheap so I get it and I'm happy with what's on there. Having Soul Calibur 2 will be cool once I get my Switch 2.

Frankly the cloud saves are worth it alone.

why wont they give me DK64

>>712690205 (OP)
I have never paid for any of these online paywalls

>>712690205 (OP)
why is there still no way to play twilight princess on switch?

>>712693219

They have Gamecube now, just a matter of time.

>>712693085
I’m hoping it gets added soon because of DK Bananza

>>712691765
Why wouldn't I want to play ninty classics on my switch?

>>712692858
No just the expansion pass.

>>712690205 (OP)
>reasonable person
Alright, here's the $20/yr to play online. At least it isn't as expensive as Sony's online.
>poorfag
REEEE I CANT AFFORD 20 DOLLARS A YEAR! THEY NEED TO MAKE IT FREE! THIS IS THE DEATH OF NINTENDO! I WISH IWATA WAS ALIVE, HE WOULDNT ALLOW THIS!
>shill
UM ACTUALLY THE EXPANSION IS GOOD VALUE OKAY, VIRTUAL CONSOLE WAS TOO EXPENSIVE SINCE PAYING $60 ONCE FOR THE GAMES I WANT TO PLAY IS TOO MUCH BUT $350 OVER THE CONSOLE'S LIFESPAN IS GOOD VALUE

I'll pay 20 bucks for online.
I'm not paying 50 for the expansion pass.
I touched the virtual console of the snes maybe 3 times.

>>712693803
Have they don't anything to make the quality better on old games?

I think you can play w others online w these too so that's neat I guess depending on the game.

>>712690205 (OP)
Paid online is a scam, imagine willfully paying to use the internet you already pay for just to access basic multiplayer features on servers that haven't been upgraded since 2005.
(The switch to new servers a couple years ago doesn't affect older games, which is every first party game that matters)

>>712690205 (OP)
Unironically great
Family pass + 7 friends= $10 a year for a huge library of classics. Worth it for alien soldier alone.

>>712690291
>if you have the money
>$4 per month

>>712698306
$4 is a lot to some people

>>712700424
>mom won't buy for me and I'm too stupid to get a job

>>712691765
I know this is going to sound like a foreign concept to the modern westoid, but it's a honor thing.
One of the primary excuses piratefags had is "but why I can't give devs money for these out of print games?" and NSO solves this problem.
It is actually, unironically, largely about both convenience and simply wanting to give nintendo some money over those old games.

>>712690205 (OP)
i trade the expansion pack for a slot of my youtube premium acc, its pretty worth it

>>712700643
that sounds like a good reason to get upset tbqh

>>712690205 (OP)
I played Soul Calibur 2 all night with my trans friend, was a good time

>>712700685
>I know this is going to sound like a foreign concept to the modern westoid
YOU ARE THE WESTOID RETARD. WHAT ELSE DO YOU THINK YOU ARE

>>712700685
But NSO doesn't let us keep the games. They're permanent rentals. It was legitimately better to buy the sega megadrive collection on steam, so you could rip the roms and enjoy them without a subscription service. Once you take them out of the folder, steam is no longer required for them.

Gotta tell you, those 50 sega games were the best 10 dollars I ever spent.

>>712690205 (OP)
There's a lot of stuff offered in the sub and the price is very low, so I personally think it's a great deal for how much you get. Regarding the claddic games and music, a lot of people will say that you could just emulate on your PC or listen to Nintendo music elsewhere and that is absolutely true but personally I like that Nintendo is making this stuff easily available through official channels and I want to reward that kind of behavior.

If you aren't interested in the other features than maybe it is just better to emulate on your PC and find music elsewhere, but I personally like it due to my specific use cases.

>>712701458
you can literally download those roms for free anywhere else retard

>>712702612
I don't get this argument either. Who still has their rons that they bought on the Wii? I'd rather pay a few bucks and get access to a full library of 300+ games (Current situation) than buy a bunch of roms for $5-$10 each (and probably more for later stuff). If I really wanted to keep the roms than I would just grab them online and put them in an archive.

The anon who mentioned the Sega collection on Steam (now removed) had a decent point, but you could have just downloaded those roms online anyway so there's no point unless you specifically want to be able to aquire the roms through an official means (which is/was great, but Sega removed it now).

>>712690205 (OP)
Paying for online is a scam and trying to sweeten the deal with nostalgia is scummy. Nintendo's online service is 20 years behind competition and the only reason it took them so long to implement it is because they were too retarded to know how on a technical level.

>>712702968
>>712702612
i wanted to download them through official means and support the company for making them available. That was why I resorted to piracy in the first place. If you actually just let me straight up buy the roms, of course I'll reward that with my money.

If NSO operated like a virtual console, and you could keep playing the games regardless of whether you kept paying for the service, then I'd fully support it.

>>712690205 (OP)
It's a great deal if you have kids and don't want to have to drag out all your old consoles for them to play your old games.

>>712701351
I'm not a westoid lmao, but it sounds like I struck a nerve.
Why don't you just try acting like a civilized being instead of acting like a westoid? Support the games you like by buying them full price so said devs can make more of it and don't buy said games secondhand.

>>712698306
>>712700643
What if I don't want it?

>>712690205 (OP)
Input lag on n64 and GameCube and the shitty border ruins it.

Sucks compared to other subscriptions because on xbox and playstation you get modern games while the nintendo subscription only gives you classic games, which have some masterpieces but it's all old stuff everyone already played decades ago
still I can't complain about it because when you get the family plan it's just $10 per account for a whole year which is very cheap

>>712703393
>on xbox and playstation you get modern games
that nobody wants to play lol
thats why they are on goypass instead of making you fork up money to buy them

>>712703434
There's a ton of good games on PSN premium though. It has the same problem as NSO, though. I can't remember if you're allowed to actually keep and buy them.

>>712702968
What exactly was wrong with the virtual console? There's really no reason why your library can't carry over to the next generation of hardware. I still have some PS1 classics I bought to play on PSP back in the day, and can still play them on my PS4. Had it been a weird PS+ thing I'd be fucked. Why couldn't I have bought the Super Metroid rom on Switch and play it on Switch 3 without having to worry about another subscription service? My switch is gathering dust for months at time I don't even remember the last time I had NSO I don't need this shit to play TotK

>>712703104
>i wanted to download them through official means and support the company for making them available
>If you actually just let me straight up buy the roms, of course I'll reward that with my money.
Based
>If NSO operated like a virtual console, and you could keep playing the games regardless of whether you kept paying for the service, then I'd fully support it
I just don't see the point. Everyone knows you can download the games for free, so there's no point in trying to sell them. Selling a service would at least provide something that consumers don't already have for free. If I just want to have the games for archival than I'll download a rom set and back it up.
>>712703393
>Sucks compared to other subscriptions because on xbox and playstation you get modern games while the nintendo subscription only gives you classic games
Modern games suck though
>>712703703
>What exactly was wrong with the virtual console?
I just think that a lot of games will go largely unplayed because of the price. For example if there's 50 NES games available than that's $250 just to get access to them all, but on NSO you could get access to them all for less than the price of one NES game on the Wii (plus other stuff). If it was just about ownership than I'd archive romsets (actually, I already do) so there's no reason to buy individual roms, but I can justify NSO because of other stuff that's included. That doesn't mean that there's anything wrong with the virtual console model, I just don't think it's the best from a preservation standpoint. But if companies want to sell their old roms on the eShop than they can do that, and many companies already do like Capcom, Konami, and Sega.
>can still play them on my PS4
Since when? I've only used my PS4 as a blu-ray player since like... 2016, but I remember having to play those in Vita because PS4 couldn't do it.

>>712690205 (OP)
They'll be patched but NES, SNES, Gensis, GB and GBA are busted on Switch 2. They render at 720p in handheld and upscales to 1080p with a bilinear filter. Try running your emulator full-screen at sub-native resolution to your monitor. It looks atrocious, like DS games played on the 3DS.
Otherwise it's good, and IMO the curated selection incentivizes you to play games as they release, and the sorting system helps you put your favorites on a pedestal, and I find myself playing this more often than just downloading roms on a computer.
Dolphin is wayyyy better than GC NSO though. Thankfully there's never any stutter or audio-crackling on NSO, but there's a really bad response-lag making games feel wobbly and sluggish to control, and it's making me dislike replaying Wind Waker so far.

>>712704262
>I just don't see the point. Everyone knows you can download the games for free,
Convenience. Every single game I bought on steam I could pirate without issue, but them making it convenient makes it worth the money.

>>712704357
That is a very good point and I do agree; but imo the subscription is nice because people will be more likely to try games they've never played before because they don't have to put more money up just to play them and I think that's especially great for introducing these old games to younger gamers.

>>712703434
Expedition 33 and Lies of P were both day one Gamepass games

do you want to play soul calibur 2 online with normies? Might be easier than the autstic emulator guys

>>712690205 (OP)
There’s absolutely no chance of this happening, but I’d love for Nintendo to put PSO Episode I & II on the GameCube collection, even if it’s only offline.

>>712704447
How does that contradict the statement? Both are gooky slop that is massively astroturfed and nobody will remember by the time the next gooky astroturfed game comes out, like how people already forgot about khazan.

>>712704445
It wouldn't be a problem if they ALSO let you buy them. It doesn't have to be a "one or the other" deal.

>>712690440
But is the emulation actually good? I can't imagine the N64 emulation is good.

>>712690205 (OP)
In hindsight, maybe if they didn't try to make me rebuy MK8 again on the switch with an added battle mode (the lack of which was already a sore point for me when I bought the wii u version) I wouldn't have avoided the game and maybe have given a shit enough to buy into the increased price online service.

If they do it again with MKW I'm probably sold on it very easily

>>712704574
There's a few games that do give you the option but yeah you're right

>>712690406
If you insist...
>wide compatibility for a wide array of system specs, even most modern integrated-graphics-cards-only PCs can run most of the PS2/GC library natively
>multiple free emulation solutions available both for Windows and for Linux/Mac, to the point of having several bootable solutions to return retard-proof GUIs for vidya browsing, once you set it up
>emulation programs approachable both for those who tinker around with settings and those who just want to start as soon as possible, both with standalone applications as well as frontend solutions
>loads of added features to the games on the go from cheats to bezel overlay customization, with support for select games/systems in form of graphical enhancements of sorts (widescreen hacks for 4:3-aspect-ratio games) and dedicated mods of all kinds
>ready to go on whatever system once you set it all up, no fear to lose it with later PCs if you hold onto your files properly
The list goes on. Most you're getting from commercial software emulation solutions these days are save states, rewind and "save states" like NSO does. That is, until the emulation medium is deemed obsolete and trashed away one or a few gens later.

>>712707335
nta but is it on my switch? no? then i don't care
>bro just modch-
you completely lost me

>>712692267
...I don't remember paying for cloud saves on Steam.

>>712707418
You can even mod your Switch if you put onto it and put some of that shit there. You can even install some of the frontends to use there like Batocera and the likes. You're fucked if you have a Switch Lite, but most of the earlier old models (and a few of the OLED ones) allow modding without messing with the hardware further than a metal clip being lodged in there.
Look it up if you really care, but if you walk that way don't forget to spoof your Internet connection with the right programs while using those or else you'll brick yourself.

>>712707629
>You can even mod your Switch
i didn't know pirateniggers couldn't read
i said you lost me

>>712707710
>is it on my switch? no? then i don't care
Hence why the repeated "if you like", an afternoon or two is all you need to put it on your Switch if compatible and if you want it. Cool by me if you want to do nothing and remain an obedient paypiggy on retro emulation, but better options (never mind cheaper) are there for those who wanna walk the extra mile.

No game preserveration

80 Bcuks or more for a game

Fuck that

>>712690205 (OP)
https://files.catbox.moe/kw9loa.webm
TAKE MY MONEY NOOOOOOOOW

>>712690291
>>712690406
You're not getting native ports, it's all emulation.

>>712690291
>If you have the money the expansion pack is an incredible value.
>incredible value
>80bucks +

>>712690205 (OP)
NSO was a shambles when it first started but its pretty comfy now.

or you can buy ps plus and get real modern games for free

>>712709105
>she doesn't get the free NSO goodies.

Sucks to be you.

>>712709165
>goodies
nintendofag being actually insane
emulate
all of this
in better quality and framerate

>>712701458
They tried letting you keep the games on the Wii and Wii U. You didn't buy them. or if you did, you didn't keep the systems and lost the games.
clearly you don't care about keeping games as much as you claim to.

>>712709192
>sits at a desk to play roms while I sit at the pool sipping cocktails.

Have fun spending an hour setting up retroarch lmao

>>712709301
>>sits at a desk

>>712709359
>he plays roms on his phone

LMFAOO

>>712709479
>phone

How can PC fatties even compete?

>>712709510
He's one of 3 people who wasted money on a Steaming Shit Deck.

This just gets funnier and funnier.

>>712709597
You do realize even the eck emulates nintendo fag games better right? right

>>712709624
>eck emulates nintendo fag games better right

Who are you trying to convince?

>>712709742
Convince of what?

>>712690205 (OP)
From what I can see people like it because it's a relatively cheap means of getting classic games when you want to play it.

>>712690443
>I don't understand why they don't make every old first party game available through nso
They do.

>>712690205 (OP)
Shit https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNQ-HHE503Q

you get A LOT for a small amount of money

I mean NSO + EP is 39€/year here, come on kek

it's like asking you to pay a small amount of money to use your own bathroom and justifying it by putting a crossword puzzle on the side

>>712707418
my criteria are x
>bro you can easily do x thin-
actually my criteria are y

To me it's a hard pass because i'm a nut about this stuff and i have all the consoles they offer. I have a Gamecube with Game Boy Player and 2 Everdrives (one for GB/GBC and another for GBA games), i have an N64 (hdmi modded, amazing image) with all the games they offer (except shit like Winback), i have a SNES (using scart cable to hdmi) with an evedrive and all, as for NES i don't really care about 99% of the games in that system.

The only reason i paid for NSO was because i was playing Smash 5 for a long time after i bought my Switch 1, but the game is boring af now so i don't even get a new subscription.

>>712711207
Wind Waker is better than every game released this year. And that's just one game on NSO.

>>712707335
Why do 3rd poorfag PC virgins think everyone need to live the same degenerate lifestyle as them? And are then baffled when nobody wants to?

I recently played Streets Of Rage with my 7 year old son. It's nice introducing him to the games I played growing up and educating him about the hobby while bonding with him.

Imagine your world

>s-s-sit down son. Pull a chair up to the desk! We're gonna play some rooms
>just let me download the rom, it won't take a minute... heh heh, how's school?
>ah OK, let me extract this and add it to my roms folder
>just gonna launch the emulator now...
>ah OK, shucks. I just need to map the controls to your joypad
>Why won't think sync??!
>w-wait... come back... it'll just take me a few minutes!!! You'll love this!!!

>>712712710
ok well gonna play soul calibur 2 son https://i.ytimg.com/vi/aNQ-HHE503Q/hqdefault.jpg

Its alright, get the family plan from a key site then sell the other slots on ebay and you can easily get more money back than it costs

It has no Bomberman games.

>>712709281
I bought them

>>712690205 (OP)
Useless.

>>712690205 (OP)
It's fine. I wish they threw a couple more DLCs into the expansion pack though.
Like roughly 1 DLC a year would justify keeping it over the base pack for me.

>>712706624
It got patched. The emulation is a lot better now compared to launch and they finally added in a CRT filter, rewinding and per-game button remapping.

>>712712710
Tendies talking about emulation like it's still the 90s with zsnes are embarrassing

>>712712710
If it makes you feel better emufags don't actually play video games. They just download 100 of them, play the one they played as a kid, and then go to a 4chan thread or something.

>>712712548
I'll wait for physical WW/TP but I got the expansion online so I can get other GC stuff and paid upgrades

>>712712710
That's hilarious projecting to be honest

>>712709525
They've already had that shit for years you retard. Hell, they also get to Wii games included without having to pay for a retarded subscription

>>712717937
>I'll wait for physical WW/TP
will we get that?

>>712690205 (OP)
Better deal than PS+ but inferior to Gamepass.

>>712709525
>i will never be able to have a GC controller if i don't travel to NY or Japan

it irks me, actually

>>712718361
Nintendo hinted at it when they announced GC, maybe it was Bowser. Saying they're "aware" of demand of physical or whatever. WW is one of those games that's pretty tedious to play the original too

>>712718287
Same song and dance for PC virgins every single time.
>dude I'm getting the worst version FOR FREE!!!

>>712690205 (OP)
nintendo don't really have particularly good online infrastructure and they don't have many games worth playing online, so there's not much point no matter how you look at it

octo expansion is the greatest dlc nintendo has ever done

>>712690205 (OP)
would be more based if i could gain retrocheevos thru this
i got the pack since its cheap but i just emulate instead

>>712718673
>PC vegan
Ironic coming from a switch vegan that can't stop talking about the switch as if it's the second coming of christ when even fucking phonefags have been playing fzero gx on their phones during the past decade

>worst version
Why?

>FOR FREE
I never said that. I dumped my legally owned copy of the game. It's pretty retarded to pay a subscription just to play games that you already own. Only mentally ill tendies would do such a thing

It's nice, but overpriced, and game additions are too slow.

It should be maximizing the catalogs of these systems, but they do like 3 game every 4-6 months.
There's tons of cool niche gamecube stuff that would be absolutely worth it, but licensing and the slow pace means we're never gonna get there.

Imagine we got to play Doshin the Giant on it, or chibi robo.

>>712718673
>worst version
But enought about the NSO version https://www.reddit.com/r/Fzero/comments/1l4jxx5/fzero_gx_switch_2_experience/

Feel free to just post
>reddit
when replying anon. It's the only counter argument that you'll be able to think of after all.

Only worthy if you are sharing the family plan with 8 persons

>>712718792
never played a splatoon game but happen to have the family plan and splatoon 2 for some reason, is it actually worth it to play or do you just mean it has coomable characters

>>712690205 (OP)
TG-16 and Saturn download soon?