Thread 712712461

Let me guess, you need more?

This is the fantasy genre equivalent of building a town around a megaton bomb

>>712712629
the town was there before the catacombs became corrupted and a portal to hell opened
it also didn't stay a town for long

>>712712629
But imagine the advantages of adventurer based economy.

>>712712629
If you are a merchant you want to be near the dungeon to get the loot from the adventurers at the best price for reselling, if you are a smith or an enchanter you want to be near the dungeon to purchase the loot at the lowest cost from the merchants, if you are an adventurer you want to be close to the dungeon to have more time in a day to explore it, then you need

>>712712461 (OP)
Yeah I want it going up into the sky, not down into the ground

>>712712461 (OP)
>>712712769
>>712712784
>needs a town
Support the wandering dungeon merchants, anons!

>>712712461 (OP)
So, Danmachi?

>>712712858
this is the fantasy genre equivalent of building a skyscraper in the middle of the suburbs

>>712713269
Err no it's not because the regular inhabitants of the big plot dungeon tower don't require constant food or their own housing or transportation. They just live there and wait for adventurers to come slay them.

>>712712461 (OP)
Trimmed the fat.

>>712713069
>merchant is canonically stronger than the MC and could defeat the big bad evil but they are all about the grind instead
kino

>>712712784
your post would work in case of an encampment, not a town.
if you're a town planner you want your town to be near a trading route and close to a river to tend to crops and enable water transport.

>>712712461 (OP)
THE MINES
THEY ARE CALLING ME

>>712712461 (OP)
Need 200x200 area where you can build your house
Need hotel place where you bring the town girls for impregnation

>>712714008
>why bother with basement floors 1-98 when you can just tunnel straight to the bottom floor?

>>712712461 (OP)
>>712712629
Building your town at the literal gates of hell is my favorite fantasy game trope, etrian odyssey does that

>>712712629
in fantasy world, the dungeon is a gold mine
both have death and riches

yes i need more. dark cloud fucking sucked ass and so did all the prior games it was derivative of.

>>712713269
yeah, like the HxH training tower, or Pokemon Colosseum battle tower based as fuck.
The difference between a cave and a tower is you can make outside levels, show how much progress a player made.

>>712712629
there are countless avenues to arrive at OP without people being literally retarded
PSO does this
Colony ship 1 establishes settlement. Its a veritable paradise planet. Pings go ahead for larger colony ship 2.
In the mean time, initial settlers rapidly mind resources, dig deep. Find alien ruins. Wild life becomes hostile, sometimes warping.
Colony ship 2 finally arrives to witness bizarre explosion. Hardly any damage to anything, but all of the advance settlers are gone.
Colony ship 2 and its passengers are now stuck in orbit, deplying hunters to the surface to figure out what has happened and somehow make things safe - or else the passengers and crew of Pioneer 2 are now permanently space faring people.
The core design is identical.

>>712715658
not really the same premise if it's a whole planet that is evil and fucked up rather than a single building

>>712712629
they're literally just boom towns (no pun intended)
it happened all the time in the US, you'd have someone find a big vein of gold, silver, coal, oil, etc and an entire economy would spring up around it for workers, housing, food, shipping, etc
dungeons are a natural resource that workers (adventurers) go do dangerous work in to extract resources that can be sold and most of the time monsters never leave the dungeon so it's pretty safe
frankly i think i'd rather live in a dungeon town than a coal town
megaton is retarded though

>>712712461 (OP)
that's just diablo 1

>>712715658
>tfw I have thousands of hours in PSO but have no actual idea what the story is like at all
I can't decide whether the game itself is to blame with how it trickles out small bits and pieces of story in a very easy to ignore way, or if it's my fault for spending all my time playing online without caring about the world/story.

>>712712769
>Fags thought they were trying to stop you at the end of Etrian to keep the town economy going
>In reality, the dungeon is a living organism and they wanted to continue feeding it stupid adventurers

>>712717328
merely a question of scale
see La Rinconada
Most of the inhabitants are stuck. They either enter the mines, or serve those that do.

>>712717581
the game is to blame - but I consider it a positive. I didn't care about the 'story' because I wanted to play. Eventually I started paying attention and it eventually added something.
If I cared more, I would have talked to more NPCs and uncovered the story naturally.

So, yes. The game is to blame, but it is a positive design choice. Not everyone needs to know what the story is. Some people are just bloodthirsty mercenaries. They don't care what your National plight is. Just offer them the right price to kill your adversaries.

>>712717507
And real life examples likely had multiple times higher mortality because of dysentery, tuberculosis, poverty etc than fantasy stories have. Writers tend to severely underestimate human capacity for suffering.

>>712717545
It's also castle of the winds and bunch of other stuff, i'm sure i remember an anon yelling at me over this before

>The town isn't inside the dungeon.
Weak.

>>712719763
It's fiction so anything goes but that wouldn't be very plausible. Commoners and craftsmen aren't fit to survive in such environments.
On a related note, merchants in dungeons are retarded for this exact reason.

>>712712858
I too, like Tsutomu Nihei's Tower Dungeon.

>>712712461 (OP)
This is Diablo 1, if you add a river and the witches house next to it

>>712720359
Its from the Diablo 1 design doc so yeah

Why does a random town in the middle of nowhere have a massive cathedral complex with multiple levels of sprawling dungeons filled with treasures. Only played the first so I don't know if this is explained later

>>712714006
>Umm actually your town isn't a real town because the 'town planner' said so

>>712720465
From what I remember the game tells you that most of the floors were added by the clergy which steadily got more deranged. And that was probably before they dug into a system of caves that leads into literal Hell or whatever that is so they made like 5 more which isn't that huge.

>>712720465
It was a tiny church not a cathedral, the Archbishop just got possessed and started building a complex deeper and deeper.

>>712712461 (OP)
I should finish labyrinth of refrain.

>>712712461 (OP)
That would fall over, unless the first floor of the dungeon was heavy enough to keep the town from toppling.

>deep down trailer was 12 years ago
>it's still not officially cancelled
the fuck is capcom doing? all they have to do is cut out all the bullshit scifi and make a generic co-op dungeon fantasy and it'd sell millions

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDyYmstqu4k

>>712721225
What if it is a magic dungeon or a magic town?

>>712719763
in diablo 2 you have a town with a dungeon inside it and another one below

>>712712461 (OP)
No, that is all I need and what I need more of is more of that.

>>712712629
if the entrance is secure its not

AAAAUUUUUUGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>712712629
Could be the dungeon was friendly when the town was built, got infested afterwards.
Dumb fuck

>>712712461 (OP)
>Diablo 1
I thought it was Zelda 2

What if the town is the dungeon?

>>712712461 (OP)
>dungeon fights back
>generates dynamic quests
>if you don't interfere villagers die permanently

>>712720691
it's not a town until permanent buildings get erected and that's unlikely unless the dungeon has a endless supply of something valuable.

>>712723790
Literally Soldak Entertainment's ARPGs.

>>712724075
Yes. I wish the combat was better though.