Thread 712714703

What was his fucking problem

>>712714703 (OP)
elves, dwarves, wizards. dont like 'em, simple as

>>712714703 (OP)
I woulda followed you, mah brotha. Mah kang.

>>712714703 (OP)
Symbolicly molested by his father
It is only in a equal relationship with another man (Elessar) did he realize the truth

>>712714703 (OP)
wanted to penetrate the gap of rohan

>>712714703 (OP)
he's embarrassed to have a gay brother

>>712714703 (OP)
He was too much of a human bean.

He protected Frodo till his end though.

>the only pureblooded human in the fellowship
>dies
Biblical type shit but would probably get called woke today

>>712714703 (OP)
He was a warrior and lord of a kingdom faced with an opponent that could never, ever be bested in war.

>>712714703 (OP)
The theatrical versions cutting all his motivation.

>>712715814
I still don't get why they cut the Lothlorien part.
Most of the extended edition of fellowship is 10/10 even if you can see why they had to cut parts for brevity, but that one is pretty damn important.

>>712715475
Boromir actually had a bit of elf blood from his mother's side.
https://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Mithrellas

>>712714703 (OP)
Most important thing in the world and they're putting it in the care of some midget?

>>712715950
There wasn't really anything left to cut after they left rivendell that wasn't vital to the moment to moment plot. They were likely eager to minimize the post-moria section of the film as well, given that was functionally the big action setpiece and thus kind of the climax to the average viewer. The theatrical cut already barely gives any context to galadriel either.
That said I still think it was a mistake.

>>712715950
Honestly I think most of the extended edition stuff was worth cutting out, awkward lines usually reshuffled from some other point in the book often from a different character entirely, and they don't mesh with the newly created dialogue because nobody they had was actually capable of capturing the particularly autistic mastery of various time periods and dialects of English that Tolkien had. I'm sure giving Tom Bombadil's lines to Treebeard made Christopher Tolkien tear his hair out. But yeah removing the few humanizing moments Boromir had was a baffling choice, he basically spends the whole movie being the guy who's obviously going to get corrupted by the ring and betray them.

>>712716148
>Most important thing in the world
The friends we made along the way?

>>712716368
As a completely not tolkein lorefag, my basic understanding of the temptation of the ring is that you get all these ideas of what you can do with it, like is it Isuldur who cuts it off sauron's hand and then ignores Agent Smith about destroying it then and there because the ring tempts him with what he can accomplish using it versus the gain of getting rid of it. So Boromir is on this quest to destroy this thing but if he had it instead of the child shaped whiny bitch, then he could use it to secure the safety of his kingdom.

>>712715475
also, hobbits are human. The share the fate of men

>>712714703 (OP)
he lost the loot roll to some manlet

>>712714703 (OP)
He lost the 50/50 roll and fomo was kicking in

>>712716365
Yeah, almost every fan disagrees, but I think the extended edition of Return of the King actually makes it a worse film.
Jackson already kinda ruined the significance of the Battle of Pelennor Fields by bringing the ghosts there (Aragorn just brought reinforcements ghosts helped him secure in the book), but extended edition also removes tension by showing that the ghost army agreed to join Aragorn. Theatrical cut just cutting off before their answer was much better.

>>712718321
what did he get instead

>>712714703 (OP)
>What was his fucking problem
He spent all his life fighting orcs at his doorstep while the rest of middle earth sat around twiddling their thumbs, essentially being border patrols, keeping the rest of middle earth safe from orc raids out of Mordor. Knowing that Gondors defence and forces are getting stretched thin, it's only a matter of time before they get overwhelmed and defeated and Minas Tirith burnt to the ground.

Being an fallible human, he is easily swayed by the one ring, though he wants to use it to defend minas tirith, like Gandalf fears, it will corrupt anyone who uses it.

He redeems his honor in the end though, by sacrificing himself to try to save Merry and Pippin and he's honestly my favorite character in the fellowship just because he's very human compared to Aragorn, Legolas and Gimli that seems like cardboard cutouts in comparison.

>>712716365
I wouldn't go quite that far. Boromir still had some humanizing moments in the theatrical cut such as when he trains the Hobbits in swordfighting and laughs himself silly when they gang up on him, as well as when they escape Moria and begs Aragorn to give the Hobbits a moment to mourn their loss. I do agree they shouldn't have cut his other moments, but they didn't completely take out his good, sympathetic side either.

>>712718562
arrows in his chest

>>712714703 (OP)
He was meant to be the "everyman" type. He's a normal guy with fears who falls easily into temptation but is ultimately still a good person at heart. I liked him way more than Aragorn because he's more relatable, same with Theoden.

>>712718693
well at least he got duplicates lmao

>>712714703 (OP)
>What was his fucking problem
he had the most to lose. everyone else lived in secluded areas that were still safe, Gondor was the shield against Sauron and was being annihilated without anyone else helping or offering a solution. the fear and desperation of his homeland being reduced to ash is what pushed Boromir to the Ring

>>712714703 (OP)
He dithered, sir. He was cut off when we destroyed the bridge.

>>712714703 (OP)
blud zig'd when he should of zag'd

>>712716365
In Fellowship the extended scenes mostly serve their function well, they expand the movie with worldbuilding and additional context for characters and their motivations.

In Towers some of them are alright but the forced comedy starts becoming noticeable and some of the scenes are somewhat ill-fitting. They interrupt the flow. But it's not too bad, it still works and you won't find any fault in it if you're a fan of LOTR.

In Return however many of the extended scenes are comically shit. Most of it is just humor that even capeshit movies would sneer at for being too juvenile, it's stupid shit that ruins the pacing like skull avalanches or Saruman and Theoden exchanging crass insults (which culminates in that bizarrely brutal slam fall of Saruman on that wheel that plays out like a comedy scene), or the dead cheekily trolling Aragorn for no real reason, or Sam and Frodo fucking around with Orcs from southeast London, or Gimli burping.
Return is best watched with the theatrical edition because most of the extended scenes suck and it really stretches the runtime into absurdity.

>>712718863
Is Sharpe really that famous or are we both being bombarded by Sharpe clips by the Algorithm through no fault of our own?

>>712718976
I watched a clip 5 years ago and they haven't left since.

>>712718590
>>712718757
In respect to Aragorn, it is true he isn't as relatable as Boromir or Theoden, but at least he has the excuse that he isn't just any normal guy. He comes from a line of mighty kings who is eventually expected to lead the world of Men, and that expectation looms ever high upon him. One thing the movies did that I liked over the books is showing him struggling with this expectation, feeling that he shares the same weakness as Isildur before him, whereas in the books, he is far more sure of who he is and what he has to do.

>>712718467
I too recently watched the Random Film Talk video

>>712714703 (OP)
>What was his fucking problem
Posting off topic content on a board about video games.

>>712719376
Boromir was in uuuuuuhhh Battle for Middle Earth