I dare say we're back.
Old game good new game bad fags BTFO.

No thanks I'll stick with KF1

>>712717510 (OP)
KF1 and KF2 are bad, so I'm expecting this game to be REALLY good

>>712717510 (OP)
its shit

>>712717510 (OP)
elaborate? did they fix everything since that beta or something?

>>712717763
Really depends on what you mean by fix everything. According to some fags it means turning the game into KF1 with better graphics, which they haven't. But things such as animations and general design choices have been improved, among other things. Can't really say much on performance yet, which in my opinion was the worst problem during the beta.

>>712717510 (OP)
the beta was unsalvageable trash
it's over

>>712718081
oh, i thought tripwire showcased a new video that fixed everything since that sounded like what OP was implying.

>>712717631
KF1 is perfection (or at least it was, before paid gameplay altering non-cosmetics)

>>712718907
gameplay altering != gameplay improving, all the dlc guns are sidegrades and most of them actually fucking suck.

>>712718968
yeah flare revolvers were a side grade to the fucking game balance.

>>712719042
kinda? they're not as good as a mac10 for a firebug under any circumstances. they're mostly worse than dual handcannons or something for everyone else.

>>712718968
Even if they were good, I'd be salty about them making people pay for actual content instead of harmless cosmetics. Paying for skins is fine because that's just players customizing. But guns? Should only do that for free. Because if they're worse than the vanilla guns, it's a bad purchase, but if they're better, it's pay2win.

>>712717510 (OP)
so characters/roles are seperate at launch?

>>712719252
you can actually use the guns in game if you get someone to buy them for you though. even if it were pay2win you can win on someone else's pay. there was a lot of actually good free DLC weapons too, that dwarfs axe is pretty good.

a LOT of the pay guns seriously just fucking suck. hell the lever action sniper alternative thing has legitimately broken sights that could make it unusable if it weren't client side reskinnable. expensive but the stats would be really really great except you can't fucking ADS. fuck the orca grenade launcher, uhhhh most of the commando guns are unnoticably the exact same thing. commandos suck.

>>712717510 (OP)
Its actual dogshit

>>712719124
Flare revolvers' only problem is having shit accuracy.
They allow another lightweight option to merch with a friend and are useful for lighting/marking patriarch as any perk.

>>712719431
>ADS
Just memorize the center of your screen

>>712719654
the accuracy is pretty okay but it has really really slow projectile speed and WAY too much recoil to mag dump. also terrible reloads. they definitely are fine on patty, not sure if there's any viable option to fill that niche but it's not really important if you just bring fire man with you with a better gun (husk gun is great)

>>712719737
well you use ADS to get the zoom not just for pointing it. for pistols and mac10 and commando stuff sometimes yeah, center of screen is actually easier and faster. on MOST kf1 guns the scope animations are way too slow or too much magnification but the steampunk rifle one is actually good. perfect. but broken.

>>712719743
>just bring the fire man with you
>recommends the most annoying gun in the game in the one fight where audio is useful
Yeah, okay, I see what you're doing. Bye faggot.

>>712720056
lol yes the husk gun is literally balanced against that fucking audio spam but you can actually mod that out

>>712717510 (OP)
>I dare say we're back.
Then you should fuck off back to your games studio to fix that horrendous mess.

>>712719445
i believe this screenshot but im going to still buy it just like i did with pd3 because i hate myself

>712720273
Faggot

>>712718081
Oh, so you're saying that they haven't fixed anything.

>>712720940
Y-yes...

>>712717510 (OP)
>>712718907
KF1 HOST WHEN

>>712717510 (OP)
fuck off yoshillo, go back to vreddit and discord