Thread 712753661

Have you secured a future for your gaming PC, /v/?

>>712753661 (OP)
yes, by dropping windows all together

>>712753774
You said that with 8. You said that with 10. But you upgraded each and every time. And you will upgrade again this time.

>>712753661 (OP)
Yes I use Arch Linux

>>712753908
You wish Ranjesh. It was bad enough to have to remove a bunch of bullshit in W10 like the awful fucking built in weather bar, internet search, and built in ads and shitty apps. Now I also have built in bloat AI into the operating system? Fuck no, I'm actually moving to Linux when W10 bites the dust.

>>712753661 (OP)
Just give me 12 and all of its bloated spyware already so I don't have to upgrade again for 10 years. If I upgrade to 11 I'm gonna have to do so again in like 2029.

>>712753972
Good luck playing fortnite on that.

>>712754268
I have a separate drive for those virus games
My parents allow me to boot multiple operating systems on my computer

>>712754268
Nobody older than 12 still plays that shit nerd

>>712753774
FPBP

>>712754268
>Playing Fartshite
>Ever
LMAO @ UR LYFE

>>712753908
I went from 7 to Linux actually
Kept using 7 all the way until 2024

>>712754268
>didn't play it whlie I was on windows
>still wont play it on linux
Why is it always fortnite?
In any other thread on /v/ people ridicule and laugh at fortnite players, but somehow specifically only in linux conversations does the game suddenly matter

>>712754771
It applies to several popular online games. But using Fortnite as the example adds a comedic effect.
In my case it's Battlefield. I have a windows ssd to play it.

Why does ending support mean they can rob me of my program I paid for

I switched to 11 with my new PC. It's not even that bad. I don't know why you niggas complaining.

>>712753661 (OP)
I haven't seen a single person say anything remotely positive about wind11

>>712753908
>And you will upgrade ag-AAACK!
Not this time, Rajeesh. Microshit putting fagshit on my taskbar was the last straw.

>>712753661 (OP)
Support ends in 2032. I'll be on Linux.

>>712757637
Support for what?

>>712753661 (OP)
10 has slowly become unusable for me, the final nail in the coffin was not being able to play any monster hunter without a driver cache. Switched to 11 and everything works fine now.

What exactly happens when the support ends? Does my computer explode? Does W10 uninstall itself? Or do I stop getting pestered about installing updates?

>>712757796
NTA but I'm assuming Win 10 IoT LTSC which is a Win10 version with longer support.
>>712758021
You don't get security updates anymore so if there's a backdoor enjoy some chink spying on your PC. Also some software will stop working.

>>712755189
People still think Windows 11 is shit because of the initial release and sticking to that as long as they live. The co-pilot thing is a red flag though

>>712758021
You don't get security updates, and then 5-7 years later new shit might not be supported on it. Switching right now is mostly a convenience feature or for someone that's too retarded to reinstall windows later.

>>712758174
To be fair a lot of changes were made just for the sake of changing shit and it made the whole UX worse.
It's defenetly not the coming of the antichrist people make it out to be though.

>>712753774
fippybippy mint/steamos is great

>>712753661 (OP)
>secure your future
Is that a threat? What are they going to do?

it's honestly not that bad, I just installed it on my old ass Dell laptop and it works fine

also don't pretend non-LTSC Win10 wasn't just as bad

>>712753661 (OP)
Sure I did.
Now go back to /g/.

>>712753661 (OP)
>SeCuRe YoUr FuTuRe
lol. It's just an operating system, not an investment account for retirement or something.
But to answer your question, I don't have to do anything when Windows 10 support ends, because I'm currently using Linux Mint Cinnamon Edition. The current version is supported until April 2029, but I'll most likely upgrade to the next major release as soon as it comes out (most likely in summer 2026 given the timing of the past few releases), because upgrades on Linux aren't a thing to be avoided at all costs like they are on Windows.

You mean I won't get random windows updates that might break my PC anymore?

Mint can't be THAT bad.

>>712753661 (OP)
I don't have a future. A future where I own nothing? That's no future.

>>712754268
>Playing fagnight

>>712759151
Wait, is steamos a thing? Is it the deck's os?

>>712760725
If your hardware is supported (i.e. if your hardware isn't new), Mint is fine. Like any Linux distro, you just lose access to games that block Linux users, which you obviously don't want to play if you're making an informed decision to use Linux in the first place, and then you have to deal with Windows shills pretending that you desperately want to play them.
Like this.
>>712754771
>didn't play Fortnite on Windows
Yeah that game is shit anyw—
>doesn't play Fortnite on Linux
HAHAHA SOUR GRAPES HAHAHAHA

>>712760725
It's good for familiarizing yourself with linux, however it has a pretty old kernel so you may have to wait a long time if something needed for you to play new video games is lacking.
It's better to install a rolling release distro that has all the new shit.

>>712760983
>Wait, is steamos a thing? Is it the deck's os?
Yes.

>>712761034
The only thing i'm scared about is passing files.
My second pc is on mint, but i basically can't pass files between it and my windows pc.
I don't really wanna do tabula rasa again...

>>712760983
SteamOS is a thing and it's very well tailored to Steam Deck.
It's immutable tho, so you're relying on flatpak to get desktop things done and god help you if you want one flatpak to interact with another (say, VSCode and .NET or something).
Also no nVidia drivers out of the box because Deck and officially supported handhelds have AMD inside.

>>712753908
Not this time. Installed Fedora about a month ago and have no intention of going back.

>>712760983
>Wait, is steamos a thing?
I didn't know it was actually possible to live under a rock. How do you avoid getting squished? Do you dig a little hole? How do you breathe down there?
>Is it the deck's os?
Yes. Steam Deck runs a fork of Arch Linux and it's called SteamOS. The Linux tab on Steam games' system requirements has been obnoxiously labelled "SteamOS + Linux" for years, since even before Steam Deck, because there was a Debian-based SteamOS used for Steam Machines before the current one.

>>712761171
>Playing new videogames

>>712761301
>My second pc is on mint, but i basically can't pass files between it and my windows pc.
Uh...? What have you even tried that convinced you that this can't be done? Have you considered a USB stick?
There's also at least one unofficial Windows port of Warpinator which comes with Mint, but I can't vouch for transferring files between Linux and Windows that way (although I assume it's the whole point of Warpinator being ported to Windows at all).

>>712761742
>Windows port of Warpinator which comes with Mint
To be clear, it's Warpinator itself that comes with Mint, not the Windows port. lol
I'd like to think this goes without saying, but we live in strange times. Kids don't even know what folders are anymore.

>>712761301
Literally just use a flash drive with exFAT file system.

>>712761850
Kids are calling directories folders and can't use an external SSD as a floppy.
Smh, this damn world is going to hell in a handbasket.

>>712761742
Yeah i used an usb, the pc i put it in tells me i can't open it without formatting it first.

>>712758174
My first windows was win 3.11 on my grandpas PC and I heard the same discourse every single new windows.

>>712753661 (OP)
Yes, I installed W10 IoT LTSC

>>712761945
Directory and folder have been used interchangeably for decades thoughever.

>>712753661 (OP)
Installed win 10 last week and will do it again in 2 weeks

>>712762026
Windowstoddler detected.

>>712753774
>all together

>>712761865
Actually, since you are here, what do i need to do to just move everything on the second hard disk and install mint?

>>712761301
>My second pc is on mint, but i basically can't pass files between it and my windows pc.
Works On My Machines

In fact I had to do some extra steps because my windows machine is still on 7, but its supposedly easier on 10. I don't remember the exact steps but
>Create 100gb NTFS partition on 2nd Linux SSD
>Set up file permissions through some dumb shit with Samba to work over network
>Back on 7, had to install some service I didn't know existed that makes network folder discovery possible (this was the part that cockblocked me the most)
>After spending hours realizing it was a windows service problem, undo all the ridiculous bullshit homegroups and networks changes I tried to make before
>Bookmark local IP address on Windows and the folder on Mint
wa-la, a shared folder
I wish I could remember exactly what the fuck I did because I set this up like a month in after trying linux and had no idea what worked and what didn't (I still don't)

Pic related, screenshot of the folder from 7 and mint

>>712759993
What is better though?

>>712753661 (OP)
yep, installed Bazzite, will soon switch to Arch because i hate the immutable shit
but overall fuck windows, tried W11 before finally switching to Linux, that shit was literally so fucking bloated and shit, the new taskbar is shit, the new start menu is shit AND IVE USED EVERY WINDOWS VERSION SINCE WIN98, that includes ME, Vista, 8 and 8.1 and Win11 is literally a piece of shit I cant stand

>>712762076
Wait until you discover dir command.

>>712762472
>wa-la
Voilà, silly américain.

>>712758174
ALL mircosoft products are dogshit. Fuck I hate everything about using their software

>>712762472
Alright, screening this, i'll do it tomorrow.

>>712762613
I think that's more of a people-who-never-go-outside thing than an American thing. I've only ever seen it on 4chang.

>>712762613
Oh boy another diamond dozen know-it-all

>>712762472
Also I should mention linux has NTFS support but Windows 7 (and probably 10 and 11) don't support EXT4 so that's why I used the NTFS partition.
Overall, 100gb is about enough for anything I could think to transfer between PCs and then move out of the transfer partition to where I want it to go.
Both are connected through the same router via ethernet so there might be extra network related hurdles on wifi or if you got a really funny network setup.

>>712753661 (OP)
I'll be using windows 10 for the next decade if God allows.

>>712753661 (OP)
Yes, I went with PS4 and Shitch.
Fuck PC.
I'm staying on Windows 7.

>>712758174
>The co-pilot thing is a red flag though
It's not a red flag.
It's a fucking dealbreaker.

>>712754771
>why are people complaining about biggest game ever made not working on Shitnix???

>>712764304
>optional features are scary

>>712762727
>but I love downloading stuff from Microsoft' github or love using software that Microsoft funded, like Linux

>>712764313
>why are people who knowingly and willingly chose an OS blocked by Fortnite not getting mad that they can't play Fortnite now???

>>712764513
>it's blocked
Fortnite blocks cheaters
>trust me bro, I'm not cheating
is not working, we don't want cheaters and cheapskates in Fortnite.
Fuck off.
Create your own Tuxnite.

>>712764513
Does Steam advertise it's Steam Deck as a PC, that can't run Fortnite?
Or are they lying?

>>712764374
Silence jeet. You're not talking to facebook boomers here.
You're talking to 4chan boomers.

how long until they change the UI to something older looking like XP in a new OS

>>712759993
>1742

>>712764313
>biggest game ever made
>losing players while CS2
>a game that runs on linux
>gains them

if you have to transfer files from one pc to another via USB stick, the USB stick will have to be unplugged and plugged back in mid-way through each transfer of a significant amount of data for some reason. I'm pretty sure it all transferred correctly when I did it. There is dedicated file transfer and file verification software that I'd probably use if I did it today.

It's fucking retarded that you can't just plug a USB cable into two different machines and transfer that way.

>>712764650
Most of your deranged and butthurt post isn't even worthy of a response, but for the record, Fortnite does block Linux users — all of them, without checking if they're using cheats, because if sufficiently reliable cheat detection were implemented for Linux then they would just allow Linux users to play. So yes, the intent is to block cheaters but that's hardly the point. The point is that all Linux users are blocked, and so no one who willingly uses Linux is likely to be a person who gives a shit about playing in Fortnite.
>>712764727
1. "PC" stands for "personal computer", and nowhere will you find this defined as "device that runs Fortnite".
2. Technically, only Deck Verified/Playable games are advertised as working on Steam Deck, and Fortnite obviously has no such rating because it's not even on Steam.
3. The word "it's" is a contraction of "it is". The possessive form of "it" has no apostrophe.

>>712765373
>it will be ded in uhhhh 2 weeks
this again?
so funny.
they even made a funny skin regarding that.
that skin was available almost 1000 days ago

>>712764374
>>>>>>>>>>>>>optional

>>712765415
If only there were an 8 wire cable you could use.

>>712765434
>without checking
Linux doesn't allow them to check lmao
that's why they all get blocked, which makes sense.
block EAC under Windows and you get blocked too.
cope

>>712753661 (OP)
I'm not gonna enable TPM.
I know it's stupid easy to patch out, but if Microsoft doesn't want me to use Windows 11 then I'll use something else.

>>712764374
Yes

>>712764650
>they don't want to play Fortnite...?
>[brain crashes and reboots]
>heh, I'll tell them to create their own Fortnite clone, haha owned

>>712765547
>uninstallable gay chatgpt clone
>not optional because I'm psychotic and don't accept reality
>"ackshually, I mean recall, which is taking screenshots of your pc"
>"what do you mean it doesn't actually work on x86-64?"
>"it totes does, sweaty, but I'm psychotic"

>>712764374
Oh you think "turning it off" in the settings actually turns it off? How sweet.

>>712765434
>Technically, only Deck Verified/Playable games are advertised as working on Steam Deck
Yes, we know Valve is lying.

https://www.protondb.com/app/2531310
Deck Verified Status
Verified


The game seems broken after last update regadless of the Proton/Wine version and launch options used.

>>712765674
>just create your own Fortnite
well yeah
of course it will never work, but if you don't want that anti-cheat actually checks your system, just make your own games. Simple as that.

>>712765587
>cope
With what?
>Linux doesn't allow them to check lmao
>that's why they all get blocked, which makes sense.
>block EAC under Windows and you get blocked too.
Cool, so which part of this are you submitting as evidence that people who knowingly and willingly chose the OS blocked by Fortnite actually want to play Fortnite?

>>712765434
>>712765587
EAC works just fine on Linux.
It just has a toggle that specifically allows or disallows Linux use. Most devs enable it, Fortnite specifically doesn't.
BattlEye and others also work on Linux just fine, steam even has compatability for it.

Any 7fags still alive?

I already have

>>712765843
>chose an OS
Linux is not an OS, and people are groomed into it.

>>712765925
The guy who snitched on Yuzu posts here.

>>712765854
>EAC works just fine on Linux.
No, it can't check for cheats.
Disabling kernel-level anti cheat is not "works".

No, asking the kernel "if a cheat is active" is not anti-cheat. It's actually ridiculous. Just like WINE being a broken Windows emulator.

>>712765925
Yeah

>>712765970
Chad

>>712765562
Can you connect 2 PCs via ethernet and transfer that way? I'm pretty sure it requires some network engineer autism.

>fixes your OS hopping permanently
>gives you a stable sane default that just werks like win 7 compared to the dying windows 11

Come home, Gamer.

>>712765970
I reported several ROM sites to Nintendo.
Sadly most of them are still up.

>>712765748
>quoting the second-latest report
>the latest says the game works
lol. But let's just ignore that.
>after last update
>1 week ago
That is almost certainly more recent than the Verified rating's test timestamp which is 26 March 2025 per SteamDB. If the game was working on that date then Valve didn't lie. Any developer can push an update that breaks shit at any time on any operating system; that doesn't retroactively make Valve's compatibility tester a liar.

>>712766027
Christ you really have no idea how any of this shit works do you.
Either that or a really bored troll, either way good luck baiting the rest of the thread for (you)s

>>712753661 (OP)
Secure the future for your white children, install Windows 11 today.

>>712766074
>like windows 7
Windows 7 actually works.
Shitnix doesn't work.

>>712766070
You can plug them directly. Most modern ethernet controllers will automatically negotiate crossover, too.

>>712766074
>22.1 Xia ruins the fucking aesthetic immediately
Honestly this fucking update has me preparing to make a switch over to Arch, now that i'm more familiar with how Linux works.

>>712765840
>well yeah
"Well yeah"?
Why would someone who doesn't want to play Fortnite make a cope clone of Fortnite?
Are you really missing the point this hard?

>>712753661 (OP)
Honestly? I am exhausted by all the constant meaningless updates, subscriptions, cookie data harvesting, ads, AI slop. It's like there was this "optimism" about tech in the early 2000s. Now it's gone.

>>712753908
i switched during the win8 debacle to mac. didn't come back for 8.1 or 10, don't think i ever will.

>>712766207
What about it do you not like?

They replaced the shutdown/logout panel with a tasteful flutter round corners instead of gtk shit. They also replaced policykit password prompt with a much more tasteful one.

I think it looks good. If anything they just need to make the theme for the file manager and overall GTK theme darker to match the toolbar. It's too light grey.

>>712766189
Post your windows 7 machine, disingenuous faggot.
You won't because you use neither 7 nor linux and are talking out of your ass.

>>712766204
just googled and it looks much more complex than just transferring files via flash drive

>>712765961
>no argument
>just "heh it's a kernel" pedantry followed by schizophrenic nonsense
I accept your concession.

>>712766125
>report literally says latest pro-troon broke everything
>wow, an earlier pro-troon werks somewhat
>no, that report saying it's all broken doesn't count
>redeem saar
t. retarded ESL

>have to enable TPM 2.0

Idk sounds masonic.

>>712766207
>>22.1 Xia ruins the fucking aesthetic immediately
Compared to what? Did you upgrade straight from 19.x?
I don't see any difference versus 22, and I don't even remember what changed visually between 21.3 and 22. If there was any difference, it was probably just some new default theme that could be changed back.

>>712766552
The report is describing an update to the game, not an update to Proton, dingus.
And if the problem were an update to Proton Experimental, then using a non-experimental build would be a valid solution. It's called "experimental" for a reason.

>>712766424
>pedantry
>just ask our totally trustworthy shit kernel if anyone is cheating
>it's a simple API call
>API calls says no
>no one is cheating for sures
lol
You think Timmy would fall for that?

What's funny is that even just your shit kernel is so insecure that it wouldn't matter at all.

>>712766720
>it's da game
>not our shitty Windows emulator
That makes it even worse.
Did the game break on Windows too?
No?
Then your Windows emulator is ass and smells like an axe wound.

He is inevitable

You're going to have to switch one day...

>>712765716
Wow you sure showed that voice in your head anon!

>>712766921
no
the gay commie penguin will die.

>>712766815
So which part of this is supposed to be your proof that people who knowingly and willingly chose the OS blocked by Fortnite actually want to play Fortnite? Why do you keep changing the subject back to the viability of cheat detection on Linux? Are you even aware of who you're replying to? My argument was that Linux users don't want to play Fortnite, and if you're not refuting that, then stop replying to me.

>>712766887
I know you think that muddying the waters with all these little goalpost shifts is going to make me forget that the original claim was "Valve is lying" but I can still see the post history and you haven't demonstrated that the compatibility rating was dishonest as of 26 March 2025.

>>712765925
>>712766046
sup

>>712767115
basically no one uses that trash.
>why is anti-cheat detection important???
for online games it is important.

>>712766386
It's not, though. Old Windows had simple sharing, and modern Windows has built in migration features to negotiate file transfers.
>>712767041
You were going to spout a lie, and I said your lie back to you before you could say it. Now you're butthurt. Copilot isn't what you think it is, and Recall doesn't work on x86-64 (and it looks completely dead as we're approaching 25H2, a year since it was implemented in ARM, and nobody wanted it then). Cope and seethe.

Who gives a fuck. Ill stay on 10 and get that weird thing that has support until 2031 or something. Or just nothing and wait for 12.

Alright I'm downloading windows 11, this better give me more ram

>>712767245
yeah, Valve is indeed lying
the game is broken and doesn't work.
but it's sold as "works".
And thus they are lying. just like Nintendo selling Pikmin 3 as "working", but it works as well as Pro-Troon.

>>712767414
>basically no one uses that trash.
Cool non-sequitur. Who cared? Who asked?
>for online games it is important.
But it has nothing to do with any of my posts, so stop replying to me.

>>712767501
Fuck off, troon.
No one wants your garbage.
Buy an ad.

Hey this isn't going to delete everything or change my desktop icons around or anyth

>>712767585
Stupid bot.

>>712766560
your pc already have it

I'm going to switch to linux but I'm scared. I don't know about computer magic

>>712767615
Stop spamming your shit on here.
No one wants Troonix.
Everyone hates it.
Everyone hates you.
Also it doesn't work.
Fuck off.

Didnt they say win11 can run android apps and games? What happened to that?

>>712767643
Why don't you mess with it in a Virtual Machine before trying it for real?

>>712767685
Stay mad. You changed the subject because you have no argument. I accept your concession.

>>712767643
yeah it fucking sucks lmao, I can't believe your only options are becoming an apple faggot, windows pajeet backdoored garbage or linux, why can't fat gaben make a fucking OS??

If someone purchased the original Windows 10, will they be able to upgrade to W11 and W12 for free, and so on?

>>712767745
>You changed the argument from shitty Windows emulator not working to shitty Windows emulator not working
meds

>>712767643
How does a GUI package manager, GUI updater and a simple install button work for you, zoom zoom?

>>712767643
Linux nowadays is basically retardproof, I switched to Manjaro like 3 years ago and have had to use console literally once to install Mozc

>>712767801
if by "for free" you mean buying a new PC, and wasting your time installing it and tons of things breaking, then yes.
wait in fact no.

>>712767752
the fat fuck will sell your Troonix as his ShitOS, and nothing will work and you will defend it.

>security support ends
>just don't click on random .exe's
WOOOOOW

>>712767886
>simple install
>it deletes the GUI subsystem and nukes your whole PC

>>712766723
Appreciate you not being the usual tire pressure IQ that tends to shitpost in these threads, but I still think you're vastly underestimating how far Linux has progressed in such a short period of time mostly thanks to Valve.

just got a new pc with windows 11
but I still hate microsoft
every single thing they change is bad and annoying, always to shill some shitty product I don't want. hope they die

>>712767832
You've forgotten which of your reply chains you're in. This is the one where you insist on talking about the lack of native anti-cheat support for Linux instead of answering the question about why someone who uses Linux would want to play Fortnite.
Thanks for confirming that you're also the guy screeching about The Last of Us Part II Remastered, though.

>>712768021
inb4
>that doesn't count
>it was just one time

Its got all the normie shit on linux, why use windows 11?

>>712768058
>it totally werks now
>redeem saar
not falling for that shit.

>>712768083
>anti-cheat not working is something different
it falls right under Windows emulator is trash.

>>712767984
Enjoy installing those kernel level anticheats from china or america, anon. Bet they wont drop anything weird. Dont forget to check your fonts folder :^)

>>712768117
because people want something that actually works, not something that is broken literally everywhere.
also photoshop doesn't work, because the windows emulator is garbage.

>>712768194
Come on dude. It's obvious that you just lost track of which post you were replying to because you're shitposting so fast. Just own up to it.

>>712768115
>To continue type in the phrase yes do as i say '

>>712768254
Just use gimp, pewdiepie does

https://youtu.be/pVI_smLgTY0?t=422

You better than pewdiepie?

>>712768239
>folder
Zoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooom.

>>712753661 (OP)
god can someone just leak the source code of 7 already so we can enhance the code of it to work with all the new shit and have that kino back

fucking leak it sukhdeep

>>712768331
>Come on dude
I'm disgusted with you, I think you are disgusting and a freak.

>>712768357
>simple install
>bla bla bla bla do you really want to install Steam? Type YES, I'M RETARDED if you are sure you want to install Steam.
"I'M RETARDED"
>oh wow, you nuked your whole system lol, it's your fault, why did you tell it to install Steam? It's just a simple button.

>>712768379
>it's basically the same
lol
>some yt faggot shills it
lol
any professional photographer laughs about you

>>712768194
>not falling for that shit.
I'm telling you this as a fellow W7 user that runs Mint on the side
It does aside from the usual strawman arguments like Fortnite, but then again newer implimentations of EAC try to block W7 nowadays. I remember New World yelling at me every boot telling me to update windows a few years back.
Hell its even safer to pirate on.

>>712753908
windows 7 was good
windows 8 was fucking shit itself terrible
they kind of rallied for 10 a little bit but snuck in a lot of shit
the next windows turns up the microsoft AIDS to 11. people don't want microsoft they want something that runs programs and microsoft's architecture being hostile to hobbyists has kept destroying the amount of mods you can do to a PC

>>712768480
>I'm disgusted with you, I think you are disgusting and a freak.
Stay mad. You deserve it.

>>712768553
He's 1000x richer than any "professional" shitter.

He's worth 50 million dollars

>>712768563
>fellow
>it totally werks
not redeeming, saar
fuck off
>just Fortnite, Photoshop and tons of games
>and tons of other software
lol
only a retard would do that
especially because it's controlled by commies, who want to cut into your flesh and literally kill you.

>>712768598
I want Microsoft because there's no alternative for people under 400lbs.

>>712768660
>listen to some corrupt yt
no
>just get the shot because yt told you
no

>>712768670
Why is it you're not willing to engage in any other argument or discussion other than screaming about poos?

>>712768407
stay mad

>>712768660
>he's totally legit
https://www.dexerto.com/entertainment/pewdiepie-explains-why-anti-vaxxers-need-to-be-stopped-1297652/

>>712768743
Professionals are clowns if they cant produce anything of value. Keep wage cucking in your "profession" with your very "professional" skills while you make 40k a year editing photos

Meanwhile pewdiepie a multi millionaireis using FOSS software, linux mint and gimp and earning more money in a month than a wagecuck earns in 5 years..

>>712768749
stay mad

This same shitter is here
every single thread
every single day
with the same shitposts
farming (You)s from the same retards thinking its someone who is just misunderstood

I've started looking into running Linux.
Win11 is the first one I actually feel is starting to piss me off even after customizing it.
>need multiple third party software to fix it
>keeps forcing breaking updates
>not satisfied with telemetry even wants snapshots of what i'm doing to train their AI
It's frustrating because I actually like the old kernel and w32 libraries than I do dealing with linux, the driver support, the HDR working fine and wifi 7 support but i'm just not going to put up with some crony-indians treating my computer as if it theirs long-term.
Once raddebugger gets it's linux port working i'm moving my work computer over permanently.
I don't play enough modern AAA dogshit or multiplayer shooters that game support is an impediment to moving.

>>712753661 (OP)
I use Ubuntu

>boot up windows
>I SEE YOU USE THE INTERNET DO YOU WANT TO USE MICROSOFT EDGE?
>I SEE YOU TYPE THINGS DO YOU WANT TO USE MICROSOFT OFFICE?
>OH YOU HAVE A HARD DRIVE HUH? WANT TO BUY "MICROSOFT ONE DRIVE"????
>OH YOU PRESSED WINDOWS BUTTON LIKE YOU WANT TO SEARCH YOUR COMPUTER HAHAHAHA I THOUGHT YOU WANTED TO LOOK THAT UP IN A WEB BROWSER YOU KNOW EVERYTHING NOW IS ONLINE IN THE CLOUD HAHA WHY WOULD YOU EVEN WANT STORAGE CAPABILITY??

>>712768815
stay mad

>>712768861
>just use a broken piece of shit tool that takes 1 hour to do something that takes 2 minutes in photoshop
go away, troon.
no one wants your garbage.

>but our Windows emulator works perfectly
if it did, Photoshop would work, but it doesn't.

>>712768885
Meds, Now schizo.

>>712753661 (OP)
I installed 11 the moment it released.

i just use debian which works with all the games i want to play on pc but i mainly game on consoles

>>712768921
i hope you got extra shots and die.

>>712768861
>FOSS
What does a bear from the Muppets have to do with anything?

>>712769028
i evaded them but you should not wish death upon others. it could haunt you.

>>712768885
>it's Eric
>he's posting 24/7
meds

>>712753661 (OP)
We must secure the existence of our OS and a future for PC gamers. 1488.

>>712761945
>>712762076
>>712768407
Post your machine's equivalent of this. If it uses the word "Folder" then uninstalling your OS will be the only way to restore honor to your family.

>>712768896
>Once raddebugger gets it's linux port working
Lucky you, they're actually planning on doing that natively in the future instead of some guy just making his own fork.
https://github.com/EpicGamesExt/raddebugger?tab=readme-ov-file#local-x64-linux-debugging-phase

>>712769090
Literally fucking nobody mentioned Eric, isn't that a nintendo specific issue? Why the fuck are you here.

>>712767440
Brave of you to assume 12 will be better.

>>712769314
Yes, I have mkdir too. But the request was a screenshot of a right-click context menu and you know it. Right-click your Windows desktop and take a screenshot.

>>712768063
did you at least run antibloat?

>>712768885
The same unorganic Linux shills are here
every single thread
every single day
always the same lies
farming (Yous) to get retards try out Troonix
getting paid microcent by Valve

>>712769448
I don't do things the wrong way.

>>712769298
>Eric
schizo

>>712769201
Yeah, I know it's made by actually competent people who aren't just doing the easiest option available to them.
I don't expect it to be beta ready for another few years though even if they're doing paid 9 to 5 work on it, they're still honing the windows version right now.

>>712769510
Now that's cope.
But I hope you speak up the next time someone says Linux is bad because of the supposed need for command line usage.

>>712768117
Linux users are literally BPD whores
>WHY IS NOBODY USING IT, IT'S PERFECTLY FINE
>I don't want to use the command li...
>THEN FUCK OFF, DON'T USE IT, NEVER WANTED YOU TO USE IT ANYWAY

>>712769585
Theres no command line in that screenshot, are you ok?

>>712768239
>fonts folder
I don't know this lore, help me out

>>712769481
i dont care if you use linux or not
it literally doesnt affect me whether you get turbo data jewed by microsoft or not i just personally dont want to and linux does everything i need

>>712753661 (OP)
>Secure your future
14/88 to you too microsoft

>>712769585
>JUST GOOGLE FOR A SOLUTION
>JUST COPY+PASTE RANDOM COMMANDS
>THERE YOU GO, IT TOTALLY WERKS
>AND IT'S TOTALLY LEGIT
>TRUST RANDOM POSTS ON THE INTERNET
>WHY DID YOU TELL IT TO INSTALL STEAM, WHEN IT TELLS YOU THAT THIS MAY BE POSSIBLY UNSAFE FOR YOUR COMPUTER?
>IT'S YOUR FAULT
>REMEMBER: INSTALLATIONS ARE SUPER SIMPLE IN LINUX, JUST CLICK THE BUTTON AND ENTER "YES I WANT TO INSTALL THIS PIECE OF SHIT"

>>712769481
Valve gets nothing from people trooning out. If anything, linux losing marketshare would save them money because they could abandon proton and not feel bad.
>>712769569
That's not why linux is bad. It's bad because it's unstable and full of holes due to linux fats shoehorning features into the kernel constantly. It's a poor desktop OS because it has to use halfass compatibility layers, and it's a poor server OS because they sacrifice quality for features. There's no reason to ever choose linux over Windows on the desktop or OpenBSD on a server. None.

>>712768407
>calling folders folders means you're a zoomer
woah that's a new one
retarded bait, completely out of whack, but definitely new one

>>712769674
>I'm just shilling this 24/7
>I actually don't care
Great, then leave and buy an ad.

>>712768598
>the next windows turns up the microsoft AIDS to 11
>it's called windows 11
lmao

>>712769740
>they could abandon it
they can't, they are literally trying to save their shitty business model, that's it.

>>712769732
its simple if your iq is above 120
if not stick to windows which you probably would anyway
>>712769806
i never post about linux this is the first time i talk about it with anyone in months despite using it almost exclusively for years

>>712769740
>it's a poor server OS because they sacrifice quality for features
it's especially a very bad server OS, BECAUSE IT FUCKS UP EXISTING CONFIGURATIONS.

You set some server up, then you "update" it and it just changes your fucking configuration and it's now broken and you need to fix it.

>>712765140
/thread

>>712769913
>I just looked into /v/ and just had to enter a Troonix thread, by pure chance
Not falling for your obvious lies.

>>712769128
We reached a time when people get assblasted about calling folders folders because they are OBVIOUSLY DIRECTORIES
Marvellous.

>>712753661 (OP)
my future...remains unsecured...

>>712769913
>you are very smart, when you waste your time away on fixing garbage that doesn't work instead of using something that just works
The word you are looking for is unemployed and sucker.

>>712753661 (OP)
considering moving to linux desu

I'm not letting some faggot nigger company tell me how to use my computer

>>712770112
i pretty much only use my pc for firefox and games and i never really have any issue that takes me more than maybe 10 minutes to fix max
posting on 4chan is a much bigger waste of time and here we are

>>712769585
>>712769732
Just werks on my machine doebiet

>>712770218
>it totally werks
stop it with the lies.

>>712769740
>It's bad because...
Okay, that's fine but I didn't ask about any of that shit. Enjoy pretending that a word used by your own operating system is only for zoomers.
For the record, the reason that mkdir uses the word "directory" and the GUI uses the word "folder" is that the former is a file system concept while the latter is the name of the corresponding GUI representation. You're free to believe that only zoomers use GUIs, if that's what you meant by >>712768407, but you should know that baby boomers were the youngest people alive when the word "folder" was first used in the context of hierarchical file systems for computing.

>>712769732
>JUST CLICK THE BUTTON
Nah nigga you need to just write in the command line "sudo pacman peach install -hrt this_shit gozaimasu"
not to be confused with "sudo pacman peach install -HRT this_shit gozaimas" which will give your exact location to Stallman who will proceed to shit in your toilet (free as in free bowel movement)

>>712770270
debian literally just does work
sure setting up something like wine or steam on debian is too hard for the average pc user but the average 4chan user should be smart enough (at least i hope)

>>712769656
Ever installed any chinese game with kernel anticheat? Then you should better check out your C:\\Windows\Fonts folder. They drop a file in there called mstmc.ttf, but it is not a font file at all. What makes matters worse, it is completely hidden. The only way to check for it is through powershell commands and even if you give yourself complete admin rights, you cannot see the file in the fonts folder. Why is it there? Why do these kernel anticheat chink shitters drop it there? While it is merely under 5kb and in line with font files, it is indeed not one and could possibly be just part of a bigger picture. Most likely a backdoor. It is known that people drop malware obfuscated as fonts into the font folder, so that file raises even more suspicion. Ask chatgpt or something to give you the powershell commands to look for it.

>>712770243
I tried it out yesterday and it all crashed.
I had to reinstall Windows 11.
Fuck you all.

>>712770403
>it's your fault when games don't werk

This thread is a major W for the unemployed

>>712770380
I didn't claim "folder" was a problem with linux. I just said you're a faggot for saying it. You're a faggot. That's the point. Your faggotry, faggot.

>>712770506
>I didn't claim "folder" was a problem with linux.
I never said you did. You're replying to a post which doesn't even contain the word "linux" so what the fuck are you even whining about? Try reading.

>>712770506
>Saying Apps makes you a faggot
Okay, Linux*xers are all faggots.

>>712770380
The funny thing is that nowadays fewer and fewer people know what a physical document folder is so the metaphor is losing its meaning.
I swear in 20 years they'll start calling them something stupid like "baskets"

>>712770657
>physical folder

>>712770657
>I swear in 20 years they'll start calling them something stupid like "baskets"

Windows 11 is a giant scam designed to get people to buy new computers rather then hold onto the one they have

>>712753908
I skipped Vista and 8.

>>712770618
They are, but that's not the reason.

>>712770404
>Ever installed any chinese game with kernel anticheat?
I haven't
Thanks for elaborating though

>>712767886
Don't fall for the lies of the Linux evangelist. Those shitty "GUI package managers" don't have what you need half of the time or have several year old versions that don't work anymore the other half of the time.
Nobody is taking care of them, because nobody is really using them. They just exists as a tool to trick people into the false believe that you won't have to use the terminal.

>>712768357
>installers constantly ask you to type shit but this one time it was bad
When you use Linux you will fuck up and Linux faggots are always going to blame you and not the convoluted mess that is their stitched together system.

>>712770731
>look this program's name is a plural noun
not even remotely related to the conversation

>>712757052
>>712765732
You guys are such fucking losers hahaha

>>712770657
>physical document folder
There ya go.

>>712770737
pretty much
the cpu requirement is so fucking high even for bloated windows performance
plenty of cpus that dont support windows 11 run 10 just fine

>>712768117
>linux can open a website
wow

>>712768379
>rich autist who doesn't have to get any work done
The actual target audience of Linux.

>>712770737
Valve is locking people out, not Microsoft.
lol

>>712770506
This is brilliant. Please tell me why someone is a faggot for using the word folder.

>>712770879
if your work is done on a computer you have a bullshit job no better than office roasties browsing facebook all day

>>712770797
It was a joke anon. I know that one schizo shitposting here is making things tense, but please.

>>712753661 (OP)
surely the jeets who works on window10 are experienced with windows now and finally how a good optimize window 12

>>712770961
>software developers have bullshit jobs
lol

>>712770964
It's like The Thing but without the blood test. It could be anyone and the only solution is to blast everyone with the flamethrower.

>>712771013
most of them do
unless you are making actual important things but most just make useless projects to appease jewish business owners that add nothing to the world

>>712771120
>most of them do
lol

>>712771151
so what do you make? almost any physical job is much more integral to society

>>712771215
I make the work of probably a few thousands if not even more people way easier
lol

>>712771151
>>712771215
also most software "engineers" spend most of their work days reading reddit and fucking around online especially the wfh people

>>712771284
they don't
>but muh writing code
you have never written any and you have no clue how it works.
the most important thing is design.
without proper design you will write shit code and then you end up with a shitty Windows emulator or garbage like Steam.

>>712770961
And you don't have a job, Timmy

>>712770657
they stopped doing online-only schooling right? RIGHT?

>>712771440
i have a physical job that would make you throw up and quit in a day if all you have ever done for work involves sitting down at a desk

>>712753661 (OP)
lmao moved all of my devices to linux years ago, i get to enjoy my games without MS bullshit. enjoy your javascript start menu

>>712771364
Not quoted but
>the most important thing is design.
That's more the attitude of the people making shitty software nowadays.
"Dude if we just overmodel it up-front everything will be great and we can throw together a bunch of libraries to get a code monkey to write it!".
Meanwhile in reality great design and great code come from the same people through experimentation and iteration from actual code.

>>712772512
too hard just prompt it and plug in the right variables

>>712770865
(You) posted a binder though

>>712753908
i gave microsoft the benefit of the doubt with 10
now that windows 11 is a dumpsterfire and gay ben himself has placed his mighty 'ick upon linux and blessed it with proton i have no reason to delay any longer

I've been using Linux full time since microsoft fucked my pc over by forcing windows 10 on me. Future proof.

>>712771474
As someone born in 1994 I don't think I've ever seen an actual folder irl. School and business stores documents in binders like picrel >>712770865

>>712753661 (OP)
I have bazzite and steam OS on flash drives right now. I hope the nvidia drivers on linux are good.

>>712753661 (OP)
Microsoft ending support prematurely for their products like this has become a complete joke. I understand why people are moving to Linux now. It's not as ridiculous as people make it out to be anymore, Microsoft are simply just a bad software/operating system company.

still not installing Troonix,
won't be installing Troonix.
Sorry, I just don't want Troonix with its silly windogs emulator LMAO.
Mint, Arch (lol), ubuntu, steamos (LOL), all the same troonix with different coating.

>>712771215
>so what do you make?
I make your mom orgasm

12 will probably be out in 2 years. What excuse will that make up for you to switch to that then.

>>712772880
binders are more common but I got this gig in a museum right now and all these documents they archive all get moved around in folders

>BACK IN MY DAY MANILA FOLDERS WERE MADE FROM MANILA HEMP FIBERS FROM THE PHILIPPINES. BOY YOU EVER SEEN A HEMP TREE? HOW ABOUT A PHILIPPINO GETTING THE WATER CURE? HEH HEH HEEHHHH

>>712773020
no one is forcing you to do anything.

>>712767643
Linux Mint is pretty idiot proof if you stay out of the terminal and just use the included software manager, the terminal is for when you know what your doing or don't mind breaking things to figure out what your doing.

if not included in the software manager for download you can find things like Discord will have a native Linux version.

it even has an update manager and if you wish you can even have automatic updates though i prefer to let it just tell me updates are available and update if i feel like it.

>>712771013
100%

>>712757637
I don't think Regirock would be nimble enough to ride a bike...

>>712773085
Is it wrong if I express my opinion? You can unsubscribe anytime

>>712773034
hot id love to see that

>>712770731
Do TROONIX really? Next time it will call docker like playground or something like that lol

>>712753661 (OP)
I've been on 11 for years. Rock solid, better AMD performance than 10 thanks to the core parking issue finally being solved but wasn't backported to 10. DirectDrive is baller and it is even easier than 10 to rip out the bloat. Plus winget native in terminal. Good time to be a person who understands computers.

>>712773184
is it wrong of me to tell you that your opinion is stupid and the 'XD linux is hard to configure' is about 20 years behind? i unsubbed from your mom, btw.

>>712772512
>overmodel
I wrote most important thing is design, you retarded zoomer.
what you are describing is shit design, exactly the problem.
Also true for Linux, which is designed by retards, and retarded design has consequences.

>>712770937
valve is the one shilling linux that can be installed on everything
they don't have the keys to windows and they don't get to decide what hardware can install it

>>712753661 (OP)
I dont get it, what do security ACTUALLY even do

>>712773037
>new AI features
>less privacy
>more bloat
fuck you, you'll upgrade anyway

>>712773465
>on everything
https://github.com/ValveSoftware/Proton/wiki/Requirements
>just buy different hardware then
>wait, you bought Nvidia?
>buy AMD, Nvidia doesn't work
>AMD doesn't work?
>just buy a different card

>>712765415
Dude if both of them are on the same router just go to File Explorer on one and type in the IP of the other system like \\123.456.789.012\C$ and it will open up your C drive from the other PC, then drag and drop that shit. I recommend not using windows native copy because it is ass. Use TeraCopy.

>>712773465
valve is trying to copy Android
Should've build gayming OS from scratch like Android than piggy backing some tranny project like KDE or SystemD or that dogshit whine

>>712773316
>core parking issue finally being solved but wasn't backported to 10
wasn't that an Intel issue because they have normal and retarded cores?

>>712773326
It's not wrong to say that but your opinion is.

>>712764650
>Linux had so many cheaters it needed to be blocked
lol... we put tmp 2.0 and all sorts of kernel level anti cheat on winblows only for people to still use the same methods to dodge all that shit anyway. You can't stop cheating. Tim Epic blocked Linux to fuck with Gabe. Considering Epic's direction for their business, they should have left Linux open. Instead they continue to do shit out of spite for everyone involved.

>90% complete still

Should I restart?

>>712773670
>just throw all the old games away
lmao

>>712773846
>they blocked
no, they don't switch part of anti-cheat off for Troonix, which is based
>you can't stop it anyway
lol nice one

>>712773846
Troonix users are mouthbreathers like posters ITT. Tim Epic is doing great job banning troonix from their platform.

>>712773326
>20 years behind
Linux is close to 50 years behind because that's when smart people realised that functional GUI that allows regular people to use computers vastly increases sales

>>712773670
>valve is trying to copy Android
No? Valve just created an immutable version of Arch, which is the future of Linux. It is the only way to make Linux usable since you have about a 70% chance of any OS update bricking your system. Immutable distros create a bootable snapshot of your system before a patch so you can easily roll back in the event of a failure, which in Linux is almost always. Everyone is moving that way. Redhat too. In a few years there will not be any mainstream non-immutable distros because it just makes too much fucking sense. Unless you want to build your own and spend your entire time on the PC debugging shit.

>>712773616
>supports hardware from 12 years ago
what exactly is the problem here?
that's 2 hardware upgrades for the average user

>>712774009
actually the original idea of Unix was fucking retarded.
>everything is a file lmao
>yes, I'm drunk too lmao
they figured that out pretty fast, but instead of not being retarded they continued with that shit. and here we are.

>>712773670
>copy android
>by letting anyone use their advancements without even touching their ecosystem

>>712773554
I think like half of those scary backdoors that need to be updated has an asterisk that to execute them you need a physical access to the device lol.
Frankly, if you practice caution, have secure browser with adblock and don't download random shit you should probably be fine. That's what I'm planning on doing at least.

How do I fix font rendering on 10/11, it looks like ass compared to 7 and 8.1

No ClearType and MacType didn't fix it

ive been using 11 for like 2 years.

>>712774053
>Immutable distros create a bootable snapshot of your system before a patch
lol

>Valve: you see, if this bricks your computer, just boot the image and go back and wait for another patch
lol

>>712774053
>updating OS breaks its OS
how these troonix users deal with this LMAO, no wonder they have to cope with immutable, docker, container, VM, flatpak. Sounds like more bloat than Windows to me

>>712774071
>on everything
>was a lie
I accept your concession.
Pro-Tip: games like Payday 2 work on 15+ year old hardware without problems.
>just throw that away lol, are you poor?
"it works on everything"

>>712774270
>windows, upgrade
:(
>troonix, upgrade
8O

>>712774259
imagine writing a game for it.
>wow, finally, I got it working
a patch later
>who the fuck changed this API? now it's broken
it's endless work for retarded developers.

>>712765732
>Mac isn't even worse.

>>712774270
are you expecting them to go back and fix compatibility for long dead end of life shit with adoption rate measured in hundredths of a percent?

>>712774053
>since you have about a 70% chance of any OS update bricking your system
You don't actually believe this do you? Or is this an Arch specific issue.

>>712774369
>why would you
quote: "it works on everything"
good to know that this was a blatant lie.
>why would you expect support that works fine on Windows
I don't, I know Troonix is shit.

>>712774348
>be a retard platform/OS
>changes API willy nilly like a retarded tranny
>blames the third party developers because API breakage on their programs
Troonix users, never changes LMAO.

>>712753661 (OP)

I won´t switch OS until the software i use no longer acknowledge win 10 and even then i may just move to Linux on principle as long as it supports the software i use.

Sorry if i´m not a fan of Windows constantly spying on me for my "safety".

ahhhhh anons it's still at 90% I have dnd prep to do for tomorrow and I wanted to play hollow knight and eye of the beholder what the fuck have you done

>>712762613
VIE OLA FRENCHY BOY.

Oh wait it finished its going to restart in a few moments see you on the other side anons

>>712765732
>+++++ssssssssossssssosyyyyyyyosssssoooooooooo
What did Steve Jobs mean by this

>>712774425
Microsoft Windows:
https://techcrunch.com/2012/10/25/microsoft-launches-windows-8-after-1-24b-hours-of-testing-available-on-over-1000-certified-devices/
>Windows 8 received 1,240,000,000 hours of testing

Troonix:
https://lwn.net/Articles/658809/
https://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3010389&cid=40798035

How the fuck hasn't that bloatware that is Windows been totally replaced by a user-friendly OS at this point?

How can Linux autists not get their shit together? It's been decades. What the fuck is going on?

>>712774437
heavily judaic to extrapolate everything to old shit several hardware generations older than proton itself
>why would you expect support that works fine on Windows
it works fine on windows because that hardware was actually relevant on it? the time spent on someone at valve tinkering with that shit would end up amounting to more than anyone actually using it

>>712774652
>Removing functions from a library
>WHY WOULD YOU CALL THIS? IT'S REMOVED NOW LOL
very professional software development

>>712774661
It's full of trannies and pajeets, go figure.
>also working for free like janitors

>>712753774
Why the fuck are there more than 300 posts after this?

>>712774661
>inb4 Anon never tried Linux but still too complicated 'you still do everything with terminal right??'

>>712774685
>why would you want that it works on all hardware?
>it works on everything btw.

>>712774661
because the normie sphere is impossible to penetrate
the only way it's happening is if gaben heavily shills the 'eck and steam machines into the public eye

>>712774661
>user-friendly OS
>Troonix
Let me just install Steam.
This is super easy.
Wow, it nuked my system.

>>712753908
>skipped me and made 2k work as long as possible
>skipped vista and made xp/2k3 work as long as possible
>skipped 8 and made 7 work as long as possible
that simple

>>712774661
its much better than it used to be

>>712774652
>1 billion hours of testing
>worst recieved OS launch since Vista

>>712753661 (OP)
Yes, by actually going back to Win 10 and I'm genuinely considering just moving to Linux in a few years when Steam drops support for it.

Windows 11 not only is a RAM consuming monstrocity, it also fucks with VRAM in older games.

>>712753908
Good morning sir

>>712774839
that will be their downfall.
>hey, look, this totally works
it doesn't
even Steamies aren't this retarded

>>712774839
goydeck is bombed lmao, still get mogged by failed xbox one cucksole

>>712774787
everything normal users have
do you expect modern games to run pentium 3s too or is that where your valve derangement syndrome ass draws the line

>>712774771
We have our own dedicated sperg that keeps any OS thread going until he has a blood sugar crash.

>>712774661
Tech debt.
Imagine writing an OS from scratch today and making sure it works with thousands upon thousands of applications, programs, libraries and so on.
And even if you managed that, convincing users to move to your system is very difficult. It's not enough that your system is okay, or even good, it must be better than competition (which Linux can't ever be because it's Linux).
Maybe quantum computers will have such a different architecture that you'll have to rewrite everything from scratch.

>>712766204
If the two computers don't have network sharing enabled, they have to click more things, plus setting up shared folders on at least one of the computers. It's a better solution for a more permanent situation, but flash drives are quicker and easier.

>>712774869
did it break a trillion games like on Troonix?
No?
Oh wow, weird isn't it.
maybe all that testing has a purpose.
>meanwhile on Troonix you are lucky when shit gets tested at all

>>712774942
it's your troonix gaymer from /g/

>>712774941
>no u
that never works, troon.
>I meant "normal users"
tons of users have old PCs, you retarded rabbit.
why does Payday 2 run on 15+ year old hardware?
BECAUSE THERE ARE TONS OF CUSTOMERS USING THESE.

>>712774661
>How the fuck hasn't that bloatware that is Windows been totally replaced by a user-friendly OS at this point?
Because nobody has created a more user-friendly system than Windows yet.
Stay mad GNUtards

>>712774931
>>712774923
it's a low volume product with nonexistent amounts of advertising that still regularly sells out the oled models
look at linux and proton 5 years ago, now, and then think 5 years into the future

>>712774970
>It's a better solution for a more permanent situation
Yeah flash drives are fine for just moving like a save game folder over once and being done, but if you regularly want to swap files for whatever reason that file drive gets REAL tedious.

>>712775021
Its (You)

>>712774869
Win8 is peak optimized windows since 2000. Shame with its flatshit retardation.

Does Linux run newer games, bros? Like newly released? And emulators? I want to switch to it already and leave Windows behind for good but I want my new OS to run the 1 or 2 games I buy at release every year.

Win 11 is fucking dogshit, how MS still fucks up this far into the game.

>>712774784
Meanwhile in real life
>go to /g/
>tell them you want Linux but you don't want to use terminal
>"Don't use Linux then"
sasuga

>>712775067
>shill it hard
>no one will use it anyway
>this time it will totally werk
in reality they are breaking shit left+right, because they are retarded Valve pajeets

>>712775035
>tons of users
https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/videocard/
where are they then?

>>712775132
also 0 after sales support. Good luck fixing your broken goydeck lmao

>>712775120
no.
some have control issues.
some have graphical issues
some downright crash.
it's all a cluster fuck.

>>712775162
>i don't understand what a "hardware survey" is
good lord
according to these "surveys" most users are Chinese, therefore Steam should drop English support.

>>712775120
Figure that out yourself, it's troonix.

>>712775210
take for example latest Tomb Raider
it's even just a remaster with improved graphics, but the original engine.
Should work just fine, right?

https://www.protondb.com/app/2478970

Played with keyboard, the following two issues occurred but I am not sure they are caused by using Linux:

Sometimes, the inventory would keep turning left and the character would not turn at all. Solution: press the key to turn left once.
If I tried equipping the weapons while sprinting and went to the inventory, the character would keep start an infinite loop of equiping and unequiping the guns. Solution: press the key to equip/unequip weapons once.

>just a few control issues with the keyboard

>>712775263
>valve should chase hardware ghosts that never show up on any survey for my amusement

>>712775263
>it's heccin LE CHINESE

>>712775120
Idk, which games?
I don't play most modernslop because gaming has just gone THAT far downhill, but Rune Factory GoA just game out and I pirated it, plays just fine without any extra steps beyond running it through Lutris to do all the setup for me.
>And emulators?
Yeah, though I only use Retroarch for b3313 and that's about it.

>>712762520
>i hate the immutable shit
why
I thought it was supposed to be more "secure"

>>712775330
>Don't activate the -novsync launch option, the game becomes unplayable (particularly unpleasant flickering).
lol
Pikmin 3?

>>712775132
do you people get paid to be this spiteful and negative or did you slither out of the womb like that

>>712775035
>BECAUSE THERE ARE TONS OF CUSTOMERS USING THESE
That's true. Consider that whenever you upgrade you don't just burn your previous machine in the pit. You may use it at your parents house, or bring it to your buddy if you're doing LAN parties together or what else, especially if that's a laptop, then you can bring it on vacation and so on.
My current main PC was bought last year, I have an old pc with intel 6700 + 1660 ti at other place and a laptop with gtx1650 and I'm still using all of them sometimes. And if not me then maybe some other member of my family or a friend. For a long ass time, until a year or two ago I had old pc with win 7 installed at my parents house and used it too.

>>712775382
immutable because troonix breaks when you install an update or installed different version of python lol

I will remain on Windows 10 21H4 or whatever for the time being. I didn't initially install LTSC on this PC, so I'm a bit screwed there. Reinstalling an OS would be a nightmare because I'm a producer/mixer with 600+ VST .dll plugins I'd have to reinstall into Ableton.

>>712775332
>Steam should drop Linux and English, because that's not the majority of their user base

>>712775408
>don't be so negative
>don't call retards out
>don't call shitty software out
don't worry, I'm also calling Nintendo slop out for that shit that it is.
>but but be positive
>buy a Shitch 2
fuck off

>>712775461
Exactly.
Payday 2 is a coop game.
Only retarded people would throw away their old computers.
Of course Valve would love that.

>>712764304
If you just stopped watching disgusting pornography that would make your parents disown you you wouldn't be afraid of co-pilot, you know.

>>712775575
>Nothing to hide, nothing to fear, citizen. Now submit.
Not the best argument bro

>>712775503
>xhe's so deranged that xhe doesn't see a difference between not the majority and literally less than 0.01% usage

>>712775478
I remember some anon saying you can "upgrade" from regular windows into ltsc/iot without losing your shit. But google on your own.

>>712753908
>You said that with 8
8.1 shares the same QoL as W7 with ESU.
10 isn't bad because LTSC got rid all the pet peeve I have with 8

>>712758174
Even discounting all the spyware and bloat shit, the fact that every single person I have talked to who has it runs into problems running games constantly means I will never ever get it.
Gonna be sticking with 10 until I find shit that doesn't work, then if Microsoft is still jeetshit might have to move to Linux or tough it out

>>712775630
>less than a tiny percent
that's Troonix, therefore irrelevant, therefore should be dropped
Glad that we agree
nothing works on it anyway, so nothing of value would be lost.

>>712753661 (OP)
it's over my computer is going to explode in a few months OH WAIT I HAVE LTSC lhahahahahhaHAHHAAHHH PICTURE INSTALLING THE SLOP LOOOOOL

>>712753908
>>712753661 (OP)
hey listen
I'm just not gonna install it

sorry but, I'm not hahahaha is that a problem? are you upset?

>>712762613
Say la /v/

>>712775575
How's that boot tasting?

>>712775761
I have debloated Education version, how screwed am I?

>>712775826
>just use Google spyware on Troonix
>it doesn't spy on your like the Google spyware on Windows
schizo

>>712775732
>valve should stop working against microsoft's hegemony and go suck their cocks because of my old e-waste

>>712773020
Who asked?

LOL this troon is So angry. xhe reported my posts
Imao
>>712775575
don't even have copilot on my windows 11 PC.

This pic sure does make troonix angry lol

>>712753661 (OP)
>implying anyone has a future now

>>712775895
>changing the subject
>false equivalence
I accept your concession

>>712775761
Honestly this is the first I've heard about LTSC. Is it just something you pay for like any other license?

linux has never been better
windows has never been worse
i'm not putting 11 on my new hardware next year, fuck that shit

>>712776682
it's for shit that has to work and can't afford to have bloat

>The Long-Term Servicing Channel (LTSC) is designed for Windows 10 devices and use cases where the key requirement is that functionality and features don’t change over time. Examples include medical systems (such as those used for MRI and CAT scans), industrial process controllers, and air traffic control devices. These devices share characteristics of embedded systems: they are typically designed for a specific purpose and are developed, tested, and certified before use. They are treated as a whole system and are, therefore, commonly “upgraded” by building and validating a new system, turning off the old device, and replacing it with the new, certified device.

>>712753908
I did bailed on Win10, but partially because it ran like shit.

>>712776682
>Pay
Nigga no one pays for these things
You download it and put it on an ISO and install it.

did the butthurt anti linux spammer get banned?
the thread got quiet all of a sudden

>>712775893
You'er fine, they're offering "Paid" updates but guess what? massgrave is going to let you get those too with a simple registry change

>>712753661 (OP)
I'm moving to Linux.

>>712776480
my thoughts

>>712776945
Correct, >>712776250
Its wild to see him going from posting on cooldown to complete immediate silence.

>>712776984
>massgrave
I heard it's, enjoy the pun, dead, though?

>>712776945
Ah so this the butthurt troonix user acting like backseat janny

>>712777157
Nah still works. Microshaft doesn't care about it existing because home user sales aren't even a drop in the bucket for them. Better to lock people into their ecosystem for free.

>>712776014
>Steam will stop running on Linux w/ this e-waste Nvidia GPU in 14 days.
>buy a new Nvidia GPU now.

>>712776905
Nigga, I ain't a broke-ass bitch.
Also I run a small business and this is the sorta shit I need to hear about. Fucking sick of my machines constantly needing updates.

>>712777039
weird, that Troonix spammers aren't getting banned for being off-topic.

coming from 7 after a decade+ and I'm honestly content with it, it feels about the same.

23h2 is extremely stable and you can remove pretty much all the bloat and ai shit easily.
24h2 however is unstable, has recall and other crap, do not update.

Can you resize the task bar yet or is that still locked down in favor of some stupid AI bullshit?

>>712777302
even if valve made proton 10 years ago you'd push the bar back even further and get mad they're not supporting pentiums
valve has no reason to go that far back because if you're too poor to upgrade from 12 year old shit you sure as fuck aren't buying games

>>712754108
This. You should start dual booting now though. Will make the transition later infinitely smoother. Trust me.

I'm not going to install w11 either. When 10 goes EOL I'm removing it from my dual boot and will just VM as needed for my DAW.

I sure have.
Once W10 stops getting updates I'm moving over to either SteamOS or the closest equivalent.
Don't care if it's not a desktop distro, it still functions on a desktop and I'll take it over the trash that is W11.
https://youtu.be/Oe1yaPkwEgQ

>>712777520
>it works on everything
>no, not even everything that Windows works with
I accept your concession.
>Valve
Valve are lazy criminals, they belong in prison.
and they didn't make shit, they copied wine, the windows emulator, that exists for 30 years or whatever and still doesn't work

>>712777609
steamos is for the 'eck genre
just go with arch since steamos is basically that so it has the greatest compatibility

>>712754926
Just play HLL. It's a better game anyways.

>>712777647
it works with everything anyone in even semi civilised world would realistically use
>valve should go to prison for not supporting my tribal african tier hardware

>>712758174
I use W11 on my work laptop.
It is absolutely dogshit, copilot sucks, office 365 sucks, my touchscreen breaks every few hours, I don't game on W11, but my brother does and he constantly has to deal with shit breaking or game bar being shit or the OS shitting itself and demolishing all his RAM.

>>712777647
Troonix users have double standard.
Troonix off topic posts on videogaymes board are okay, but telling troonix and calling their fanbase trannies are reported en masse. Funny, just like troons on xitter with their cancel culture

>>712777197
You know microsoft literally forced (maybe even still does) pride flags into the OS during pride month? Happened as recently as last year. This isn't the W you think it is, lmfao.

>>712765367
the first thing I do whenever I install Windows is to completely disable updates

>11 Pro
lol, lmao even

>>712753661 (OP)
Yeah, it's called Linux

>>712777957
>why are jannies not accepting my sharty drivel after a radicalised sharteen forced them to rework the fucking site

>>712778008
Never had gay flag on my taskbar, the problem is on you, lmao

>>712778060
Troonix is not vidya doe

>>712777846
>le civilized world
Russia?
>makes up nonsense
No, Valve are criminals because of their illegal casino business, and locking people out of their purchases etc.

>>712778008
>forced

>>712778153
They literally put it in the search & taskbar, retard

>>712778153
If you're using gnome, you do deserve everything that is coming for you.

>>712778060
It's Windows games, not "PC games"
Therefore anything except Windows is off-topic, because there are no games for it.
It's that simple.

>>712778395
>>712778230
>sharties are rulecucking even though their rabid tranny obsession inserted into every single post is inherently breaking the rules

>>712778304
looks like DLC

>>712753661 (OP)
10. LTSC. IoT. 2021.
Done. Security updates until 2032.
Switching to Linux after.
Simple as.

>>712775120
Emulators, aside from Xbox are generally equivalent or better on Linux.
So long as games don't have anticheat, things generally just work nowadays. The ones that don't "just work" don't require extremely complicated tinkering; anybody who was around during Windows 98 should manage.
Denuvo generally works if you're a legal owner of the game. Denuvo cracks are iffy due to some of them exploiting undocumented behavior.
That said, would I personally recommend it? No. You windowsfaggots will never be satisfied with Linux without turning it into shitware that's identical to Windows. So please don't install Linux. Stop ruining my OS with freedesktop and lennart pottering style garbage dependencies. Stay in your containment.

>switch to 11
nah lmao
i'll wait and switch to windows 12
every other version of windows (vista, 8, 11) has been shit.

>>712778482
so you can indeed remove it
gotcha
can I also remove the LGBTQP+ sale on Steam?

>>712778272
proton hardware bans you for being in russia?
>and locking people out of their purchases etc.
imagine being you, getting butthurt at valve for pulling out the life support after microsoft rendered old operating systems braindead with a sledgehammer

>>712778613
Steam has nothing to do with Linux, but great job moving the goalposts after getting assblasted do easily.

>>712778627
>life support
actually sloppy shitty always online DRM created by the Valve demon

Fun fact: Microsoft still does activations, they do not lock you out. Only Valve does that.

>>712778448
Ywnbaw (woman/windows/woman+windows) troon

>>712778671
found the chat bot

>>712778613
yes
you can choose to never see any fag game ever again

>>712753908
That was before Proton became a thing Rajeet. Which now outperforms Windows in just about every way.
Through a fucking translation layer.
Embarrassing.

>>712778774
that removes sale banners?
I highly doubt it.
>all trannies mark their games properly
doubt it.

>>712778774
>workaround, windows
:(
>workaround, steam
>workaround, troonix
Ö

>>712778837
>>all trannies mark their games properly
Posts like this make me realize that the guy posting all this troonix stuff is probably the same Sonyfag posting about PC vegans.
You clearly don't actually use Steam or know how it works.

>>712778695
i'm not even touching that frenzied schizobabble in the first line

>Microsoft still does activations
so?
you can install proton on hardware older than what w11 allows
in the end it's microsoft that decided to kill windows 7 and it's done so long before valve pulled the plug on the official support

still not using linux lmao

>>712779128
hey, I just tried that filter. It doesn't remove LGBTQP+ sale banners.
What the fuck are you posting?

>>712779161
>so?
Microsoft: online DRM still active, we don't lock you out

Valve: fuck you, we get 30% on everything, but we lock you out

>>712779260
for some weird unknown reason, Microsoft is able to keep online DRM working, meanwhile Valve fails at it.

>>712753661 (OP)
i switched to linux and im happy there

>>712778806
*dmulator

>>712779260
you think a token gesture from microsoft keeping one server up matters when they've taken a big fat steamy shit on everyone by replacing 7 with 10?
in practice using 7 requires more work than linux nowadays

I switched to Windows 7 and im happy.
All games just work fine.
No hassle.
No tinkering.
No wasting time.

No updates for me

>>712753908
Microshit won't end support in the middle of a world war. My future is secured.

>>712779482
Microsoft:
>doesn't lock you out, not even from Windows XP, because they respect a PAYING customer

Valve:
>fuck you, we lock you out, buy a new PC or else

Microsoft:
>grrrrr evil
Valve:
><3 <3 they love us

battered house wife

>>712779584
B b b but windows emulator doe

>>712753661 (OP)
>little shitty laptop I have randomly upgrades itself to W11
>now it won't connect through my open FTP network because it expects me to put in nonexistent network credentials
I hate jeets so much it's unreal

>>712779704
>it totally did that all by itself
no, it didn't.

>>712779584
>they respect a paying customer
>by repeatedly rolling out new shittier versions and cutting the circulation to the old ones by not giving them new features
if microsoft never ended 7's support valve wouldn't have either
you struggling with causality my dear sharteen?

>>712779704
Gest FTP user is "anonymous", retarded troon

>>712779764
What's even the point of your brainless naysaying, faggot? Do you need the (You)s that damn bad?

>>712779778
So who is the fool that is downgrading?
Why would you?
Who is forcing y...
oh it's Valve. I see.

>>712753661 (OP)
Yeah, I moved to linux.

I spoke too soon, now it's stuck at 88%....
I just want to play video games

>>712777320
yeha but you still shouldn't pay microsoft for your home PC
>I run a business
That one is different, but if you have a business you can absolutely get an LTSC license pack, it's cheap too

>>712779907
>I make shit up in my head
>spread lies
>that way I can make people scared and use my ShitOS
it doesnj't work

>>712779778
>if microsoft never ended 7's support valve wouldn't have either
That's actually Google's problem. They cut w7 support with Chromium and Valve's new frontend uses CEF (which is why it takes up 10x the RAM it used to)

>>712780064
Funny when valve put bloat, troonixers are okay with this. Me as windows user is even disabling steaming shit to run on start up.

>>712779926
valve was the one responsible for windows 7 usage dropping to single digits long before they themselves cut support?

>>712779990
Cool nonsense, ahmed. You can stop replying to me now.
>>712780203
>Funny when valve put bloat, troonixers are okay with this
Who the fuck said this? /g/ is not sending their best

>>712780317
More like go back to /g/ troon. This is videogames board, not Pooronix forum

>>712780401
save your anger for the dalle thread

>>712753908
gottem

>>712779926
>valve did this

>>712753661 (OP)
I'm either going Linux or Steam OS. 11 is slop. 10 is useable at best if you disable all the spyware and bloat. 11 you blatantly cant as the OS shit's itself if you do.

>tfw on W11 and everything is the exact same as it was in W10
i actually cant think of anything off the top of my head for daily use that's different now compared to 3 years ago

retard here, if i want to go back to 7 for nostalgia-
is that possible on windows 10?
does steam not supporting 7 mean it doesn't launch at all or just that they don't do certain tech support stuff anymore?

>>712779986
>yeha but you still shouldn't pay microsoft for your home PC
I don't think I've had a cracked version of Windows since XP or 7? Old enough that I still call it cracked. Honestly wouldn't even know the procedure of running a cracked OS anymore.

I am actually amazed by how windows continues to become shitter and shitter.

>>712781123
you need to slipstream shit and even then it's a gamble on whether you can jam it onto new hardware

>>712781123
>does steam not supporting 7 mean it doesn't launch at all or just that they don't do certain tech support stuff anymore?
If you had it installed before they cut off support, you can keep using it and it just wont ever update. I dunno if you can download the current steam client on a fresh 7 install and it'll install an old version for you.

>>712781331
>Steam will stop running on Windows 7 in 0 days
WIN7 BROS, NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>712753908
WINE has come a long way. With Proton and Lutris, I can play any game I want on Linux. Times have changed — you don't have to stick with Windows if you don't want to.

>>712753908
SPBP
first post BTFO

>>712753661 (OP)
Yeah, I am dual booting Unbuntu with Cinnamon now. Slowly I am getting a hang of it, and once 10 EoS I will switch over to maining it.

>>712753661 (OP)
I dual boot Windows 7 and Linux on my modern gaming machine. But most of the games I play are old games that run happily on my XP rig.

>microsoft killing windows when it's at 60% marketshare and completely cutting life support when it's at 20% good
>valve cutting life support when it's sub one percent means they're the great satan
i know you're seething about this shartroon

I'm pirating the ESU's for 10. I'll worry about Windows 11 later.

>>712761301
Mint has NTFS support what is giving you so much trouble?

>>712766207
Start ricing.

Windows 11 psyop gayops shill thread
Imagine letting the feds screenshot your stuff on your PC

>>712775120
>SteamOS
Yes.
>"Standard" Linux
Not always.

>>712784334
SteamOS is just Arch launching into big picture mode thoughbeit

>>712781285
what

>>712784171
Microsoft made Recall opt-in in June 2024. During the setup of a Copilot+ PC, users must explicitly choose to enable it; otherwise, it remains off.

>>712784521
The hardware itself is no longer made to support it and you need to make a custom bespoke iso for it to even have a chance of working

>>712781331
interesting. what does steam not being updated actually change?
>>712784772
i got my pc used and it has a windows 8 sticker on it, does that change anything?

>>712785527
> what does steam not being updated actually change?
Nothing really
Some of the store features don't work like video playback is broken most of the time. Otherwise it just feels like how steam has always been for the last few years after they killed -vgui
I'd go back even further to pre-CEF if it were possible.

I've been dual-booting for years, but I don't even have Windows installed anymore. Nobara for me has probably been the best "just werks" distro for games and everything I do that I've tried so far. The only thing that's a bit wonky is VR.

>>712755189
he refilled that bottle with fuckin ginger ale, you can see the carbonation bubbles. what a fraud

>>712785527
If you have something that old the odds are it'll work just fine without any tinkering with the iso

Is it even posibble for Steam to completely drop support for W10 like a decade from now? Will me games be unplayable then? Will i even be able to use steam at all? I don't mind pirating but all the games i bought on sales so far going to waste would suck.

>>712784769
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

>>712785612
>>712786068
thanks for answering anons

>>712781151
>Honestly wouldn't even know the procedure of running a cracked OS anymore.
You should know, there are certain versions of Windows you can't just get from the store that are objectively superior to the default ones offered by Microsoft.

>>712786198
Meds

>>712786098
>Is it even posibble for Steam to completely drop support for W10 like a decade from now?
It'll be much harder for Windows 10 because mechanically, 10 and 11 are the same. They would have to start actively blacklisting Windows 10 unlike with 7 where they moved to a new GUI and killed vgui.

>>712786402
>certain versions of Windows you can't just get from the store that are objectively superior
You're talking about using older versions of Windows like 7 or XP?

>>712786468
All it takes is for Chromium to drop support, which will happen eventually.