Nintendo just took physical media behind the barn and blew its brains out, and tendies just accepted it with a smile on their faces

>>712764968 (OP)
You lost tranny

>>712764968 (OP)
Good thing modern games aren't worth preserving, as they're by and wide corporate sludge.

>>712764968 (OP)
>The only thing the Switch 2 changed was the DRM
bravo bingtendo!

I hope the demoralization continues so I can pick up switch 2 key cards at a dollar bin

>>712764968 (OP)
Nothing personal, collector but nintendo doesn't get a tax from reselling games

>>712764968 (OP)
These are all ports.
in the future, in case they're not.. Emulation will preserve them.

>>712764968 (OP)
if game key cards were sold alongside physical and you could use them as virtual cards too, I think they would pretty good for people who don't want to carry around game cards but want to be able to resell them too

Valve beat them to the punchline decades ago.

>>712764968 (OP)
blame most third parties for not properly compressing their games and cheaping out, nintendo already said all of their games won't be key cards

>>712764968 (OP)
How is it Nintendo's fault that other companies are too cheap to pay for high capacity cards?

>>712765075
fpbp

>>712764968 (OP)
Why do companies keep doing this? All it serves to do is confuse the consumer. Just sell digital games digitally and physical games physically.

>>712765075
fpwp

>>712764968 (OP)
They shoulda just made GMCs Switch 1 cards internally if cost was an issue. While they wouldn't have the capability to play them from the card itself, would have the necessary installation files and would be a much better compromise for the customer.

>>712764968 (OP)
He didn't do much research!

>>712766258
Nobody cares about this slop.
>Captcha: G0YSW

>>712764968 (OP)
Oh fuck off you console warring turbo faggot. Everyone has been trying to kill physical media as fast as they can for years now.
>For PC Steam is obvious one and should not need any explanations
>PS5 had version without disc drive. For PS5 Pro you had to buy disc drive separately, and that drive requires online connection to work.
>MS is pushing the gamepass like there's no tomorrow
>Nintendo makes physical games more expensive and now the obvious game-key bullshit

>>712766075
>Mortal Kombat
>over 100GB
Jesus christ

>>712764968 (OP)
>Nintendo just

Nintendo is the only manufacturer who is still selling their physical copies with the full game inside, you dumb retard. If you want to blame someone, blame all the third-party companies who thought it was acceptable to sell empty boxes with one-time use codes because they're too lazy, incompetent or downright stupid to properly compress their 200GBs worth of useless 4k textures no one will use. There's absolutely no excuse to do so when Cyberpunk was released fully in the cart.

"Physical" Media is retarded, and you're a shit gobbling nigger for doing their work of ensuring you own nothing for them by pretending the distinction exists.

>>712766075
The only switch 2 game that doesn't fit in a 64GB cart is split fiction and MAYBE outlaws, don't know the file size for the latter

>>712764968 (OP)
>Nintendo
Take your meds, tranny

>>712766258
BotW, TotK, Kirbo, Z-A, Mario Retardy and prime 4 were excluded too, and so were story of seasons and tamagotchi, maybe because of being dual releases, but then again MKW isn't there either

If you're a "collector" why would it matter what's in the box?

>>712766258
BotW, TotK, Kirbo, Z-A, Mario Retardy and prime 4 were excluded too, and so were story of seasons and tamagotchi, maybe because of being dual releases

>>712765075
>>712766180
only trannies like (You) would defend games that require downloads

>>712768495
No, Sony has had a much better record for that, and you can play totally offline with no check-in DRM ever

>>712768495
>Nintendo is the only manufacturer who is still selling their physical copies with the full game inside
Blatantly false, Sony's games actually come on their disk, most of them unless it's 3rd party and too fucking huge for the BD, and when the PS5 asks you download it's downloading and installing from the disk.

>>712764968 (OP)
What retards think
>Nooo gamekeycards killed physical!!
What actually happened
>Gamekeycards replaced an eshop code in a plastic box

>>712765075
Lost physical versions, yeah. This shit's grim but it doesn't seem like that many people are buying these dogshit key cards if Disgaea 7 Complete is anything to go by.

https://store.nisamerica.com/products/disgaea-7-complete-ewwdo-edition?_pos=1&_psq=disgaea+7+complete&_ss=e&_v=1.0

Still sitting at 100% stock.

>>712766258
yeah because it's just a switch 1 cart

>>712764968 (OP)
Nintendo just successful did with the Switch 2 what Microsoft tried and failed to do with the Xbone. Honestly insane. The power of branding I guess.

>>712769282
Absolutely wild that it is always Capcom and Sqeenix pulling this shit. Even if Nintendo could magically whip up a fix for the way the S2 reads cartridges, Capcom, Sqeenix, and a few other guys would still pull the game code shit instead of game key cards.

>>712766075
>not properly compressing their games
Ah yes, Puyo Puyo Teris 2 and Bravely Default totally couldn't have fitted on the forced 64GB cart. Not compressing is the cause here, totally.

>>712769649
The nis site has a weird system, the stock percentage only ever goes down by 25%, so for all we know 24% of the stock could have been sold
>>712769619
Kind of untrue when several of the game key card games have a proper physical release on the switch 1, and there's still a code in a box game in split fiction and I think Civ VII too

>>712769282
you again? you've already been bfto multiple times, kill yourself and maybe you'll reincarnate into a non third world country

>>712764968 (OP)
Ok what the fuck do you want me to do? Not consume?

>>712769764
The Don Mattrick Xbone is back though. It's branded "Play Anywhere" now. 100% always-online activated digital games.

>>712766258
He excluded Switch 2 editions because those are just Switch 1 carts with the Switch 2 upgrade patch pre-installed. They're not real Switch 2 physicals because they don't use the faster new carts.

>>712769896
Take your meds you subhuman

>>712769964
Honestly yeah you're right.
All it took was marketing and slowly boiling the pot.

>>712765075
>tranny is now just an empty buzzword
People should only have access to the internet and social media in their 20s.

Imagine being so incredibly sad that you type out an introduction like that… lmao… gaming might need to die

>>712769471
Because they "collect" "games" and these "key cards" don't have any "game" "data" on them? Are you retarded or something?

Can any physicalfag explain to me why does any of that matters? You're still getting boxes and cartridges to display on the shelf if you care about a physical collection
>B-but the data
No modern game comes complete in the box unless it's some super ultimate edition coming out 5 years after launch, your "real physical media" is still incomplete and rely on a download just as any of those, to not mention all the extra content that has always been released in a digital form since dlc became a thing, you're just coping at this point, it either doesn't matter or physical media died decades ago

>>712764968 (OP)
stop. killing. games.

>>712770236
Switch cartridges work with no internet. You put it in and play. How is that hard to understand?

>>712764968 (OP)
Blame third party publishers, not Nintendo.

>>712770042
keep huffing that copium faggot

>>712770236
Let me guess, Xbot gamecuck subscriber?

>>712769964
nigger, they still make physical xbox games

>>712764968 (OP)
But anon, have you seen the "hdr" and "4k"???? It's so shiny and pretty and relatively new and apparently mandatory by "gamer" standards
As long as I can shovel my burgerbucks at pappa miyamoto, I'm happy
>>712765075
You joke, retard, but with every victory companies get like this, we're one step closer to pretty much every game looking and feeling like pretty much every other game (even moreso than now). And eventually, games will play like something you'd see in that Idiocracy movie, but good consoomers will buy anyways because it'll look like and be immersive like ready player one
I'm just glad I'm getting out of modern gaming before I lose my last shred of dignity, regarding this hobby anyways

Why do third parties hate Nintendo?

>>712770386
Not anymore, Xpajeet.

>>712770236
Sony BD's come, usually, with the full game on them and you just download it off of the disk itself. God forbid you get the PS5 Pro but even if you have one of those so long as you already connected the disc drive you can play the game even if the net is down.

>>712764968 (OP)
get the roms and throw em on an sd card, problem solved

PC, PS, and Xbox literally have digital only consoles but somehow it's Nintendo's fault all digital is happening (it isn't)

>>712770236
>No modern game comes complete in the box
Literally every single Nintendo game ever released has.

>>712770236
i can literally put all of my switch carts onto my unupdated switch and play them with no issues
you're a faggot retard tranny nigger

>>712769936
Yes? Pirate everything on a game key card, and if you must buy them digitally.

>>712769619
>>Gamekeycards replaced an eshop code in a plastic box
They didn't thoughbeit.

>>712770386
Xbro....
https://insider-gaming.com/only-playstation-gets-physical-discs-of-upcoming-xbox-games/

>>712770430
Their first parties are actual competition, also they actually have to optimize their games for their hardware

>>712770646
That's just Square Jewnix with their usual hebrew nonsense.

>>712770605
I know the japanese version of BotW with the DLC on the cart requires a firmware update, dunno about other games

>>712770430
Because Nintendo always has to be different, whether it's
>wanting/demanding support for joy cons while everyone else has more standardized and conventional controllers
>working with inferior hardware because since after the last truly great Nintendo system, the gamecube, Nintendo stopped trying to graphically compete
>Different infrastructures because they're so fucking hung up on anti piracy measures
>I'm sure so so much more that we'll never know because NDAs
It's not a mystery

>>712770761
>That's just Square Jewnix
Its not thoughever, see: >>712769854

Only game key card I'm getting.

>>712764968 (OP)
>collecting physical in 2025 on modern consoles
>when emulators exist
uhmmm low IQ department hello? yeah one of yours has broken containment, yeah, want us to bring him back? fine, cya
>>712765075
actually seething lmao
goytendo is an overpriced product and all nintendo games should be emulated, fuck greedy japanese boomers
>>712768495
>Nintendo is the only manufacturer who is still selling their physical copies with the full game inside
literal lying dishonest nigger
switch 1 is a little better in that department surely, but it's definitely not the only one, unless the downloads are mandatory (aka installing the full game) most of the time is totally playable without
updates on either ps4/5 or switch

this is the biggest issue with tendies, it's not the bing bing wahoos or overpriced slop, it's the endless lies and worship of Troontendo

>>712764968 (OP)
fully digital games have been a thing for fucking years
cry me a river snoy because you started this shit

>>712770898
>only dick I'm sucking
>only turd I'm eating
>only boot I'm licking
kys

>>712770898
Isn't it easier to just get the eShop version?

>>712770898
Just buy it digitally nigga, or wait for the steam/PS5 port or piracy

>>712770898
you could just make a jp account and buy it digitally

>>712769678
>>712769980
Where did you get this from?

>>712770998
Didn't Nintendo start making you jump through hoops now to access the JP eshop earlier this year? If not I'll sure as fuck get it digitally then.

>>712769827
I can't speak for Sega, but SE are absolutely that fucking retarded that they could manage that.

>>712771072
right here

>>712770938
>cry me a river snoy because you started this shit
neck yourself
microcuck/xcuck has always been the at the forefront for all the DRM and you will own nothing bullshit like paid online and goypass
but the actual TRVTHNVKE is that while in 2008 everyone had physical games whether blu ray/cd/cartridges fucking pclards and their fat faggot gabe invented the perfect you will own nothing goyim store named Steam
fuck pc cucks, it's all on them, they normalized it at least a decade before it became popular

>>712769282
>EU
Not my problem (Except for Mega Man, that was pretty wack)

>>712769854
>Kind of untrue when several of the game key card games have a proper physical release on the switch 1, and there's still a code in a box game in split fiction and I think Civ VII too
Switch 1 carts are much cheaper, there was never going to be a full physical Switch 2 cart version of these games.

>>712770898
For as scummy as the switch 2 is, underneath the magic paint coat, the simple act of buying the system itself is a concession.
So at this point, I guess do whatever you want, Anon?

>>712771074
Why do you want the jap version?

>>712770646
Switch 1 carts are much cheaper than 2, if key cards didn't exist that 2 version would just be a code in a box or digital only.

>>712771213
Uncensored AND english text and audio options

>>712771213
For Bravely Default, the JP version isn't censored while global retains the 3DS censorship

>>712771153
fuck off and die snoy
snoys are the only ones who saw a digital only console get released and started clapping and cheering for it

>>712771146
There are unboxing vids mate, what's inside is a red cart

>>712770134
>t. lost tranny

>>712771258
>>712771263
Oh right. Surely just buying it (US Version) and playing on a jap account uncensors it?

>>712771264
kys
either actual tendie brainlet or retarded pclard falseflagging as a tendie, pc cucks started this shit in the first place and NOBODY cheered on the novidya5 pro or the digital edition of the ps5, nigger, in fact yt is full of seething faggots because of that

>>712764968 (OP)
I don't really care either way but if Nintendo did absolutly nothing and kept things the same, who's to say those games wouldn't end up being a download code in a box only anyway?

>>712770236
>you still get code in a box
>why don't you redeem???
1. servers pulled
2. it's dead

>but but le patch
lies, most games on Shitch come complete on cart, same for PS4. Most games are completely beatable without any patch.

>>712771425
>snoy is yet again trying to pretend the real world isn't real

>>712771415
No

>>712771426
The fact several have proper physical releases on switch 1

>>712771415
no, the only way to get the uncensored version is to use a separate account to buy the JP version

>buy physical copy of Elden Ring
>oops, I need 60 GB to install the digital version of the game
>start downloading
>oops, you don't have enough memory
>decide to delete Yakuza 0, supposedly physical
>oops, I haven't finished this game yet, I'll leave it here until I finish it at least
>decide to delete Street Fighter 6, supposedly physical
>oops, my friends are coming over next Saturday and we'll have a chance to play
>decide not to uninstall any games
>Elden Ring, the physical game, is sitting there on the shelf
>you'll only be able to play it in 2 months when you finish Yakuza 0 or lose your friends because they became trannies and killed themselves...

Wow! What a great Switch 2 experience, Nintendo!

>>712771554
Which one of the ones listed in the OP have a physical release on the Switch 1?
Not trolling or anything but I'm actually curious.
Minus Bravery Default of course because Square is going full retard mode with that on.

ATTENTION EVERYONE
FALSEFLAGGING PCTRANNY DETECTED
>>712770236
^^^^^^^^^
>you're still getting boxes and cartridges to display
the point is not to display a box you retard
>No modern game comes complete in the box
the full base game is on the disc, on ps4, ps5, and on switch cartridges NIGGER
>your "real physical media" is still incomplete
it's as complete as it gets and it will last for decades
your shitty ssd full of ps1 roms won't last 20+ years faggot
>to not mention all the extra content that has always been released in a digital form since dlc became a thing
that can be included depending on the edition
>you're just coping at this poin
sounds like something a coping digitalcuck would say
>it either doesn't matter or physical media died decades ago
stematrannies are mentally ill and mindbroken by fat cuck gabe

I don't agree with tendiesharts on many things but if anything physical games is the only thing that makes me pick a tendie over a stinky fat pclard that literally pays for air just to get cucked by gabe lmao
kys

>>712770306
>I can play the 1.0 release with bad performance and game breaking bugs
Wow so much better than having to download anything

>>712764968 (OP)
Good thing that physical media is overrated for preservation. True preservation comes from the ability to backup media indefinitely. CD's are gonna rot, flash memory is gonna die, but the backups on my hard drive are gonna be alive as long as I do due diligence

>>712771534
>pclard keeps coping
it's ok lilbro lmao
aint fooling anyone

Meanwhile PS5 gets 100GB discs with the full game on them (even multiple discs in the case of large games like RDR2) that work totally offline, with no patches now and in perpetuity as PS5 has no automatic check-in shit for physical games

Feels good to be a Sonychad.

consolekeks are hilarious. imagine thinking that having a box and cartridge/disc is worth the tradeoff of playing at 30fps medium settings (or 60fps low settings)
what kind of genuine retard still cares about consolels whatsoever

>>712770364
Gamepass is the only service I see as an actual threat to "gaming preservation", more specifically the cloud part of it, because with that you actually don't even have access to any data and if the servers go down you would actually lose everything, unlike the regular digital games

>>712771759
i'll take things that never happened for 500 alex!

>>712771554
Isn't this mostly because Switch 1 still has cheaper carts? Only reason a majority of S2 versions are key cards because they are cheaping out on the S2 cart.

>>712768495
>I didn't murder him your honor, that other guy beat the shit out of him before I put a bullet in his head
As the last bastion of physical games, Nintendo moving away from physical means the end of physical.

shant be buying game key carts, nosiree
either real physical carts or digital, no halfassing it

>>712771827
>True preservation comes from the ability to backup media indefinitely.
true but in 20+ years I don't think I will care
physical has never been about actual preservation
besides there's literally no preservation for games at all right now
books and movies are collected in the congress library and other places but video games are not (because you would need to collect assets and code that might be copyrighted, if it's an online game it's even more complicated)
in other words some games will stay and will be preserved by those who host the roms, but as games get bigger and bigger in size there will be less availability so people need to start to pick what to actually preserve
like we can avoid preserving concord for instance, even if some people might be interested in seeing the sloppiest slop game ever made

>>712771759
You're most wercomu! Make sure to buy arr our other fine products without apprying criticar thinking

>>712771534
NTA but are you implying that most people aren't still complaining about the PS5 Pro? Also he's not wrong, Steam is basically the perfect "You vill own nothing" platform that somehow Gabe convinced everyone to use, literally tomorrow Gabe can just ban anyone he pleases with no refunds from Steam, it's written into the terms and services that you quite literally do not own the games on Steam and only the license to play them on Steam.

Physicalfags will make all this noise about preservation and shit but when it comes to playing their old games you think they're hooking consoles and shit? No, they're emulating it on their chinkhelds with turbo and save states, literally making the whole physical preservation part completely pointless

>>712771957
>things that didn't happen yet*
FTFY

>>712772023
What if the keycards end up in the $5 bin?

>>712771774
I still can redownload any digital games I have ever bought, even on the Wii, my digital games have outlived several preservation fags collections with their disc rot and house fires

>>712771957
As I always said, at least 80% of people are unable to predict the inconveniences that certain facts may cause in the future. You will only start hearing people complain about what I said on Switch 2 when they literally go through it.
Human beings are much dumber than people think. But experience teaches even the stupidest, so in about six months, when people start having larger game libraries, you'll start hearing exactly that example of mine happening all the time, here, on Youtube, probably even to you.

>>712772227
why would i buy trash out of a dumpster?

>>712770236
It matters because eventually the consoles will stop being produced, and the existing ones will fail. Without the data on the cartridge you'll never have access to the game again

>>712764968 (OP)
The really sad part is you can only buy 256GB SD Express cards.

I have over 400 games on my 1TB Switch SD and I don't want to download a bigger game for an hour before being able to play it.

Remember how long we are waiting for 2TB SD cards..yeah, bigger Express cards won't come for a long time.

>>712771312
Comments on those unboxing videos claim that "Switch 2 Edition" physical games are still playable on a Switch 1.

>>712770430
Nintendo has always been scummy to 3rd parties, since the NES days.

>>712766245
they really should just do this for all switch 2 games, because it turns out even the expensive high speed switch 2 cartridges with full games are slow as shit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUQnJaEh-bA

>>712764968 (OP)
As much as Nintendo share the blame, it’s not like it’s them alone. Digital only consoles already exist and digital only releases of major titles have already happened.
All the companies have been wanting to kill physical copies for years so that there will be no more pre-owned games where they don’t get a cut of the profit. Remember when EA briefly included codes in their games so that if you did buy it preowned you had to then purchase an unlock code. Thank fuck that died quickly.

>>712764968 (OP)
why do people cry about nintendo when these third parties were gonna put codes in an empty box if gamekeys didnt exist?

>>712772158
>Physicalfags will make all this noise about preservation
nobody sane has ever said that a disc is preserving anything
besides if the actual hardware is broken what the fuck do you need a disc for (unless you read with a third party blu ray reader and use it to import the game in an emulator)
>it comes to playing their old games you think they're hooking consoles and shit?
I do this
>No, they're emulating it on their chinkhelds with turbo and save states
I don't do this
> literally making the whole physical preservation part completely pointless
refer to the previous point
it's more about being able to pick it up whenever you want and avoiding the
>say word
>money stolen
situation
that you face with digital games, because digital is literally paying for nothing

also physical games have actual value, can be sold/gifted/lended at your discretion, essentially you are given more options to do what you want with your purchase

>>712772158
speak for yourself zoomer

>>712771804
Not a Switch issue, but some v1.0 PS4 games have uncapped framerates, so performance is greatly increased on PS5.
These would later to be hardcapped to 30fps in an update to "improve performance".

>>712772227
They won't because normal people don't give a fuck about physical media, everyone is used to day one downloads on everything they own, they won't even bat an eye at the cartridge asking to download something before play

>>712764968 (OP)
reminder

>>712772264
>my subjective anecdotal experience somehow invalidates all the founded criticism of digitalcucks
anon?
>with their disc rot
they have a span of at least 20+ years, they couldn't possibly rot unless the user was a fucking idiot
>and house fires
kek

Why do people jerk off about "owning" games?

>>712772314
The data is ripped and preserved day one, sometimes even before the launch, same thing with digital releases, what's the point of the physical cartridge for preservation again?

>>712772357
They didn't in the switch 1 era, 99% of the time. Nintendo gave them this option to save $15 and they took it

>>712772158
>but when it comes to playing their old games you think they're hooking consoles and shit?
i am, actually
i still own all the consoles ive ever owned and they all still work, along with the games
my n64, gamecube, wii, wii u, gameboy pocket, gameboy colors, gbas, ds, 3ds xl, new 2ds xl, ps2, ps4, switch, switch 2, pstv
all work, and i can hook them up any time

>>712772227
Digital version go on these type of discounts all the time, which ruins the whole resell cope for key cards. You won't save shit by buying them pre-owned and you won't be able to profit off of them either.

>>712772553
>>712772469

>>712765075
Fpbp

>>712772515
Usually just some cope to justify emulation or piracy in general.

>>712764968 (OP)
Steam killed physical media like 5 years ago. If you're still kvetching over it you're just a seething snoy.

>>712772515
Because they're useful idiots conditioned to perpetuate this nebulous concept of "true ownership" to erode the concept that is as simple as
>If you buy software, you can do whatever the fuck you want to do with said software besides redistribute it
Ensuring it's entirely impossible for you to own software on any sort of data storage because as the law exists there is no magic distinction.

>>712771827
How are you going to back up media that's stored in a cloud server?

>>712772515
It will happen to you too.

>>712772515
Manchildren with no actual life accomplishments latch on to toys

>>712772714
steam killed physical media for PCs closer to twenty years ago and thank god for it, DRM riddled disks aren't compatible with the internet getting faster and faster

>>712772316
>The really sad part is you can only buy 256GB SD Express cards.
Barely anyone talks about this, the maximum amount of space you can currently have on a Switch 2 is about 500GBs. These modern games hover between 50 and 100GBs a piece so you're not only forced to swap around key cards to play your fully installed digital copies like a cuck but on top of that you're also gonna be forced to constantly swap out micro SD express cards too. Shit's all fucked.

>giga nerds when normal people care about convenience and not showing off a wall of game boxes to internet strangers

>>712765293
They added the DRM to Switch 1 games as well.

>>712772912
convenience is being able to play your games 20 years after the system is released

>>712772515
>pc lard cope
kek
>>712772912
this is not a hobby for normies tho
if you don't have a wall full of game boxes you can fuck off back to plebbit

>>712772809
these digital copies were exclusively given to people who bought the same thing on physical media. the only people who suffered from it are people who willingly sold their physical copies afterwards because they thought the digital ones were permanent replacements, even though that was never the intention.
everyone hit by this said "nooo now i have to buy back all those anime i sold on ebay :("

>>712772898
>>712772316
512 and 1tb sd ex cards exist, they're just sold out because it just came out 2 months ago.

>>712765075
Actually you guys are the trannies

Feels like the shitty parts of Nintendo just keep getting worse and the good parts that made you put up with it are slowly just disppearing more and more

>>712773097
It wasn't digital copies at all, it was access to a streaming service to stream said videos.

>>712768495
>Nintendo is the only manufacturer who is still selling their physical copies with the full game inside, you dumb retard

Complete fucking tendie delusion. Ps5 disks contained the actual game where it downloaded its contents onto the Ps5. The corporate cocksuck is astounding

>>712772086
are you implying mindbroken snoys aren't STILL trying to defend the piss5 Pro?

>>712773129
Isn't Lexar pretty shit?

>>712772290
Nintendo shipping the switch with only 256gb of storage on board is downright insulting considering you have to install game key card games.
Should have been MINIMUM 512gb

How is this any different from how games have been handled since the PS4/Xbone days? Almost every game now is barely more than a license key and you have to download the actual game to the system anyway.

>>712773340
I'd argue Sandisk are worse and they'e the market leader so.

>>712773069
>this is not a hobby for normies tho
You are 20 years too late minumum to be saying this.

>>712773378
>Almost every game now is barely more than a license key and you have to download the actual game to the system anyway.
Not PS3/PS4/PS5 you dumbfuck, only Xbox/Switch

>>712764968 (OP)
Not a bing but gachas nowadays are bigger and require constant internet connection but nobody's complaining.

>oh no you cannot play on flights
Big whoop didn't stop the gacha market.

>>712772469
Remember the The World Ends With You's advertisement having all mention of a Switch version scrubbed out?

The real issue is that digital games must be attached to an account. I don't think people realize these days how big of a deal it is to be able to play your games completely free of restrictions

>>712773378
>another pc lard repeating the same bullshit over and over
>Almost every game now is barely more than a license key
they are not retard, unless is cawadooty and ubisoft trash the full base game is on the disc
>and you have to download the actual game to the system anyway.
it's not a download, it's an install that you can do totally offline
it's mostly due to the fact that blu ray I/O speeds are not enough so the game has to be installed on the internal drive
which is totally different from having to install the whole game from internet like you would do with shit like call of duty

>>712773516
gacha games are pure and utter slop and you should kys subhuman

>>712764968 (OP)
>physical
Not important anymore. good it's going away

>>712773442
just because a bunch of retards with zero taste and foresight have gotten into the hobby it doesn't mean that you need to get your own standards to their levels, quite the opposite

>>712773378
most PS4 and PS5 games install completely from the disc and work fine without patches, people just flip out at the mere thought of not having patches.
xbox dropped their standards sooner since they really didn't give a shit about physical media or people without internet, so a lot more xbox games than PS are incomplete on the disc, but a fair number of xbox games are still complete on the disc, just fewer.

>>712772264
My physical collection will last at least 100 years, let's see if you can still download 'your' Wii games in 2106

>>712773474
>>712773607
Got to be honest, people thinking PS5 games aren't all usually on the disk reminds me of how people think Sony raised their prices to $80 dollars already just because XBox and Nintendo did. I mean, they probably will in the future lets be real here but the price of a PS5 game is still $69.99 and they haven't announced any change to that yet and probably won't any time soon.

>>712773519
you are extrapolating like a schizo over japanese game stores getting optional stickers to cover the PS4 and switch badges so they could advertise the game in a store section for one console only. not only that but a single picture of it, at one store. you've contrived in your head that SE had a conspiracy to hide versions of the game existing over the most banal store signage shit.

How many times do you need to be told. Nintendo console = Zelda tax. All non Zelda games on Nintendo machines are completely pointless, worthless and irrelevant. You buy a Nintendo console to play mainline Zelda games and nothing else.

>>712772158
>playing their old games you think they're hooking consoles and shit? No
I got my PS2 hooked up and I'm right now enjoying Dark Cloud

>>712764968 (OP)
I'm not concerned about third parties.

All Nintendo software will still come 100% on the cart.

>>712771759
>bought elden rimjob and street fighter shixsucks but didn't bought daddy nintendo super micro sd cards
poor people shouldn't have friends

>>712772316
I think there are 2 TB ones, but they are $400 lmao

>>712765075
>Tendies aren't tranny.

>>712765170
This is the actual best post.

>>712773817
>will
Nutnendo literally said "currently no plans", but with a new Zelda, you see, sorry guys, we sadly have to use a gay key card as well.

and tendies will cheer.

>>712773607
Sure I read Doom Dark Ages has no data on the disc at all.

>>712765847
It's about being it's about owning the thing you purchase, not rent it. It's not about collecting.

You didn't care when use steam as your primary storefront. You didn't care when digital overtook physical games in sales. Why do people care now when Nintendo does it? They are just following the trend that the industry is taking.

Can someone please explain to me why do physical fags even want to collect random plastic with a piece of paper?
I can understand Metal cases and special edition cases that use different material for the box, but just regular ass plastic cases that have nothing in them seem stupid, like just print them yourself.
Also all games need to be updated, the discs/cartridges don't include the DLC and additional content that they provide, so they are incomplete and someone won't even work if the firmware is too old on your console.
I just can't understand what is this retardation.

>>712770898
why don't fags just play the original on a 3ds or 3ds emulator like citra?

>tfw God Hand physical
>tfw Silent Hill 2+3 physical
>tfw Rule of Rose physical
>tfw Shadow Hearts Covenant physical
>tfw Gravity Rush Remastered physical
>tfw 3D Dot Game Heroes physical
zoomers stay fuming, my retro games stay increasing in value.

>>712774181
>tfw Silent Hill 2+3 physical
um but thats not worth anything? look how cheap you can get it.

>>712772045
Clandestine preservation is the superior way anyways. without it shit like the snes telephone downloads, or prototypes od various games wouldn't be available to the public.

>>712774181
Pokemon carts are worth a fortune.

>>712774345
the individual PS2 games, not that demaster

>>712774064
It's an 80G install from the servers. I bought a physical copy for my dad and it's a complete ripoff.

bros is this a retarded AI bot? literally same words and formatting
>>712774121
>want to collect random plastic with a piece of paper?
it's not about the random plastic with a piece of paper (those are still nice to have tho)
what's wrong with it
>Also all games need to be updated
no they don't
>the discs/cartridges don't include the DLC
depends on the edition, I mostly agree, but then what?
>so they are incomplete
the full base game is there

>>712774181
Value only matters if you sell it.

>>712774181
*snaps your discs*
Heh nothing personnel boomer

>>712774387
but it's a physical copy of silent hill 2+3 like you said. it's the same thing bro.

>>712771881
>Sony
>chad
lol

>>712766147
You can't make a Switch physical game without going through Nintendo. Nintendo sets the price because its their own proprietary carts. The price Nintendo puts a Switch cart at is so absurdly high for third parties that its typically not remotely worth it for a smaller capacity carts, let alone one of the higher capacity ones. We already know this because third parties were doing this already on the Switch 1 with some physical carts. That's why so many Switch 2 ports are on key-cards instead now. Because its just THAT much cheaper then even their lowest capacity physical options.

>>712774406
>but
>if
>it doesn't count!
cope harder

>>712774381
yeah but as I said there's only so much you can preserve with 100GB+ games
with ps1 and ps2 roms it's obviously easier and affordable if you were to purchase your own server for that shit
given the popularity of liver service trash this will become an even bigger issue

>>712764968 (OP)
bingtendies eat up whatever nintendo shits on their plate

>>712774414
That's the thing you come to realize.
The people jerking off about owning games only care about being able to sell it AKA no longer own it.

>>712772086
>literally tomorrow Gabe can just ban anyone he pleases with no refunds from Steam
cope. i've never once not been able to access one of my games and even when this says 41 years of service i will still be able to say the same. enjoy your 30fps though

>>712774510
>but
I didnt' say that
>if
I didn't say that
>cope harder
pc lards kvetching will never not be funny

>>712774115
I did care. Everyone fucking cared. You weren't here back then

>>712774561
Try and play your games on Windows 7

>>712774167
>why don't you play on a 240p screen or with blurry 240p poorly upscaled textures when you can have native 4k on a big ass tv
full retard

>>712773340
it's all the same shit unless you're buying some no-name knockoff from amazon or aliexpress. samsung, sandisk, lexar, kingston, pny, whatever.

>>712774715
>>why don't you play on a 240p screen or with blurry 240p poorly upscaled textures when you can have native 4k on a big ass tv

None of this happens at all especially on modern 3ds emulators groid

>picrel makes pc lards burst into uncontrolled rage
why?
not my photo btw, just a random photo I found online

>>712764968 (OP)
Notice how the games that aren't keycards are the first party games (plus a few others from Marvelous and CDPR) and realize third parties are niggers.

>>712764968 (OP)
Digital is better, tranny.

>>712774561
>i've never once not been able to access one of my games
Nigger-san, re-read. Gabe has never done this, however Steam CAN do this whenever they like. They have the power to do that and you agreed to the terms of service giving them the power to do that, Gabe decides to ban your account? Cool, lost all your games and money. After Gabe dies the next guy who's the CEO of Steam decides to be a mongoloid? Cool, lost all of your games.

>>712772470
ps3 came out in 2006. we are going to see disc failure of the first games very soon

>>712774827
>picrel makes pc lards burst into uncontrolled rage
>why?
buying PC games on xbox 360 is kinda gay.

>>712774827
I miss the big PC game boxes of the 90s

>>712774827

>>712774561
Whatever mate. Valve could go bankrupt tomorrow after discovering Gabe had been using the company funds to leverage 50x longs and you'd be fucked.

>>712774935
I'm glad I picked a few of these up before the prices went insane

>>712774926
I have working ps1 discs retard, they are literally older than me
and blu ray supposedly will last even longer
>>712774969
two more weeks

>>712770321
Seethe harder subhuman tranny

>>712774935
unreal is pretty cool. not sure about that "tournament" game next to it, never heard of it.

>>712774969
still owns more than the average pc troon lmao

>>712774827
Not really I just think it's dumb because they are just cheap plastic with nothing fancy on them, no cool manuals or anything.
Now boxes like these are worth collecting >>712774935 but they stopped making these a long time ago, so I just don't get why physical fags are so upset that most people prefer digital nowadays, nobody wants to collect cheap plastic

>>712764968 (OP)
Tendies don't smile, they soiface.

>>712774926
>A-any minute now
Lmao there are floppy discs from 35 years ago that are still functional and they are FAR more prone to failure than any disc media. Keep huffing that copium.

>>712772606
Yeah, the resell argument is pure cope, if you buy them with the intent of selling them eventually, why buy them to begin with?

>>712775102
nobody is collecting boxes, but you have to put the disc somewhere
>so I just don't get why physical fags are so upset
nobody is upset, I just laugh at your lack of foresight and foreskin, oy vey
>nobody wants to collect cheap plastic
then don't, I have games first and foremost

btw boxes still contain fancy shit, from game world maps to stickers and posters, again standard edition maybe less for sure but you can still get shit without breaking bank

>>712774935
I mostly miss the manuals they came with, this applies to all the old physical games.
Even as a kid those were fun to read.

>>712775318
>lies the post
I bet you don't even own shit.

>>712774925
and i CAN burn your faggot house down with all of your games in it. i'm not going to, but there's a higher chance of that happening than Steam taking my games away.
>>712774998
keep coping consolekek

>>712775494
but I'm not a pc lard

>>712764968 (OP)
>Nintendo just took physical media behind the barn and blew its brains out,
Huh? I don't remember buying a physical game in the past 10 years that didn't have a mandatory 5-50 GB day one patch. The only exceptions ironically were on the WiiU

>>712774513
Storage is cheap. for the price of one physical release (at launch) you can get 4TB of storage.

>>712774639
i'm not mentally stunted so this will never be an issue
>>712774827
>confusing laughter with anger
leftoid behavior

>>712764968 (OP)
Isn't it up to the publishers if they want to make cards or not?

>>712775550
>hdd
yikes
unless it's for archival only
>>712775585
>words words words from pc lards
no anon it's 100% anger

>>712774039
every post you make is just retarded delusions and you know this

>>712775754
it's literally the truth.
Nintendo never said "we will release all our games on physical Shitch 2 cart"
it's all in your head.

Otherwise link to that, but you can't, because you are a liar and a shill.

>>712775726
>unless it's for archival only
consolekek reading comprehension on display. i guess that's a side effect of having brown skin. the posts you're replying to are about preservation.
>no anon it's 100% anger
cope. jealousy is not a good look at all btw

>>712775682
yes but there's no incentive especially for third party publishers to pick anything else other than game key card or digital download

>>712775515
God I hate Steamkeks, and no that doesn't mean I hate PC because you can pirate games on PC. Steamkeks are something else though, imagine paying to get a license that Steam can take away at any time they please rather than just pirating games when you're on PC.

>>712775835
>more words and unprompted aggression
literally malding rn

>>712770912
Holy seethe

>>712764968 (OP)
Tendies are used to taking shots to the face.
It's just usually not bullets.

>>712764968 (OP)
And none of those game key card are a first party title from Nintendo. It's almost as if Nintendo are the only ones in the industry who knows how to optimize their games.

>>712775007
>>712775214

Different type of media have different lifespans. CD, DVD and BR all have different expected longevity. CD will last longer than DVD, and DVD will last longer than BR.

>>712776202
How could nintendo do this?

>>712775974
>that Steam can take away at any time they please
hilarious cope. they never will. your house has a higher likelihood of being struck by lightning and burning down with all of your 30fps console cuck versions in it than of valve shutting down steam or whatever other delusions you faggots concoct in your feeble minds

>>712776202
>counts DLCs and all that AI pajeet online only sloppa
???
retard obviously there will be more digital purchases like this
but from the insomniac hack and the recent data we know that sony first party sells at a 50% split digital/physical pretty much
also there's almost the same split between digital/disc drive consoles
so kys faggot

>>712776295
Keep being Gabes bitch faggot, imagine having a PC and not pirating your games
>bu-but Gabe will never
One bacon burger away from having a heart attack and who the fuck knows what the next CEO of Steam will do. Also, no one said Valve would shut down steam you retard, they have the power to ban you for whatever the fuck they want however.

>>712776143
CDPR is good. Witcher 3 for the original switch was thoughtful, they were one of the other publishers that paid up for the 32GB cartridge.

>>712776219
>CD will last longer than DVD, and DVD will last longer than BR
nope nigger, and regardless of that we will have real confirmation in decades after this but BR due to being newer technology will surely last longer than CD/DVD, this is not negotiable
there have been tests for practical purposes but they had to do them in conditions of artificially increasing aging because so far there's no way to know it
it could be even 100 years for all we know

>>712773798
Autism

>>712776420
>imagine having a PC and not pirating your games
keep coping, dipshit. when i do buy games it's on the objectively best vidya platform in existence: Steam. i do happily pirate plenty of games.

>>712776295
>my favourite corporation will never die!
Congrats, you win the 'dumbest shit i've read on 4chan all day' award

Reminder ONN express cards are just rebranded lexar cards.

>>712775024
only one seething is you pajeet

>>712764968 (OP)
Why do you care, you are going to pirate them anyway.

>>712776718
>stealing brownoid coercing others into doing crime
this is why india is a poop infested favela and western cities have beautiful architecture and clean streets

>>712774926
My bamham origins disc crapped out overnight

>>712764968 (OP)
This is a good thing make it easier to find the worthwhile games

>>712776572
the 100 year CD is the expensive stuff. do you really think that Game companies used that for your games? No, they used the cheap stuff that is gonna last the shortest.

>>712777060
anon it's an estimate
either formats haven't existed for long enough to tell for sure, we literally have no idea
even if you take the minimum possible (20 years) it's still a lot and I will take it over a digital cucked loicense

>>712777029
I mean, my wallet is certainly thankful, my inner autist? Not so much

>>712776202
>hurr let's count DLC and game keys as digital game revenue
>let's pretend that it's all digital games only lel

>>712777190
20 years is a lot yes, but we are already 18.5 years away from PS3 launch. If the estimates are correct, PS3 games are gonna start dying relatively soon. we will see how it develops.

>>712777060
>I don't know that actual physical games are PRESSED, not BURNED on CD-R slop

>>712764968 (OP)
Wheres botw totk

>>712764968 (OP)
everyone buy these games support the full game on cartridge

>>712766075
>Mortal Kombat
>over 100GB
IT'S A FUCKING FIGHTING GAME
HOW THE FUCK IS THIS SHIT OVER 100GB

>>712777629
le uncompressed audio + texture slop

>>712764968 (OP)
>and tendies just accepted it with a smile on their faces
Not at all I'm refusing to buy any game that does this. I know you're used to just accept getting raped since you're probably from "that" fanbase considering the kind of threads you make.

Trump won.
Nintendo won.
It's over. Why bother keeping up the fight when everyone else gave up already?

>>712777718
based

always never forget: Steamies did this to themselves 20 years ago
Regardless you will always be better than a Steamie.

>>712764968 (OP)
Honestly the most important aspect is that Nintendo correctly forced companies to label their releases with the keycard symbol. If shit like pic related can get a physical Switch 2 version then other games/ publishers aren't trying and rightfully should be blacklisted.

>>712777536
?
anon the ps3 came out in 2006
the first launch discs will be hitting 20 next year
many have working ps1 discs still, those will start rotting before blu rays
is there a possibility that discs will become unusable at some point in the future, considering that hardware itself might also fail and become unusable and hard to find? sure
but I would rather be able to keep it in my hands for the next couple of decades and decide what to do with it rather than rely on Mr. Goydenberg to keep my digital loicense active
ultimately if hardware breaks and the expiration date is coming by that point in time storage will not be an issue so just backup the game on pc and play in the emulator

>>712771027
Why its available in eu eshop

>>712777797
>it's so based that companies label fake physical scam releases *now*

>>712764968 (OP)
>Put my NES games into my NES 40 years later after it came out
>I can play my game

>Put my Switch 2 game into my Switch 2 5 years later after it came out
>There is no Switch 2 game
>Try the download code
>Authentication servers gone for Switch 3 infrastructure
>Money stolen

Explain to me how ANYONE would be okay with this situation.

>>712777835
>I don't understand what pressed CDs/DVDs are
>they will rot
you could be literally saying that carved stone would start rotting.

>>712778020
NPCs are okay with this, because
>why would you want to play this 2.5 years later?
>just get excited for next product

>>712777835
>Digital licence
Oh my bad, you are thinking lawfully.
I download and put on hardrives DRM free copies of what I buy. I am not gonna let a digital licence dictate what I can or not play.

>>712777629
Fighting games should be the LEAST bloated genre out there since you just need extremely constrained stage environments meant to be viewed from one angle, and characters. I downloaded SF6 and it was almost 100gb. They kind of have an excuse because of world tour but apparently that shit is only like 20 gb. What the hell else is bloating these things?

So is the "servers shut down = game lost forever" thing true? Or something else with these cards?

>>712770236
>Can any physicalfag explain to me why does any of that matters?

Three reasons,
-ownership
-posterity
-future proofing

Try to buy any modern sonic or sega collection and see if you can get sonic 3 and knuckles without it being butchered.

Same shit applies with other individual games where licensing is involved or shit gets censored.

>>712778059
while I'm not aware of the details I surely know that the rot thing is simply overblown
>>712778130
>Oh my bad, you are thinking lawfully.
how else are you supposed to think
>I download and put on hardrives DRM free copies of what I buy
yeah and this is based, steam on the other hand is just paying for air and hoping gabe will keep the shop open forever which as unfeasible as hoping that your disc will last 500 years

>>712778262
well, what do you think?
they require a download from Nintendo.
Servers down, where do you think the data will come from?
Iwata's rotten corpse?

>>712778262
Yes. It's worse because they're just download codes, there's no actual data in these cards. If it was just an authentication server required then maybe someone could homebrew something that tricks it into thinking it's contacting Nintendo to unlock the game years later. In this case, you actually need Nintendo to keep a download server alive that hosts the game data years later, AND hope they let the cards authenticate the download.

Literally all it would take is Nintendo saying "Whoopsie, we need to take down our Switch 2 servers, sorry! We need the bandwidth for Switch 3, 4, 5, etc. but don't worry we'll compensate you with 10 bing bing coins (worth 90 cents USD btw) for each download card you have!"

>>712778454
Yup, that's why I said all the way back here >>712771827 that physical media is overrated and real preservation comes from backups. physical media is good, but anyone thinking it is the definitive solution is naive. Also

>how else are you supposed to think
Be creative man

>>712779112
>when you copy a file onto a hard drive, that will preserve it
>physical media doesn't work
>but my flimsy overpriced hdd does
>especially when Valve locks me out of my old hardware and game doesn't work on new hardware
>wait, I can steal it
weird that I just put it into my PS2 and it works fine.

>>712777851
Only the jp version is uncensored

>>712779112
anon if a pressed blu ray can last 50+ years how is it any worse than your backups?
assuming you are in your 20s right now like do you really think by the time you will hit 70 (we won't kek) it will matter to you that you backed up concord just to name whatever game?
you will be playing full AR/VR games with tactile feedback by that time and the old stuff will look mid as fuck

>>712764968 (OP)
Fuck Nintendo

any update on Switch 2 cartridge dumping
the sooner people figure out how to preserve the files of these things, the sooner we can start emulating (and ripping the music out of games like MKW because Nintendo sucks cocks and will never either sell an OST CD or put the songs on a streaming platform worth a damn)

>>712769896
The last time i checked "third world" (Asia version) is getting more Physical than your "first world country".

>>712764968 (OP)
b-b-but snoy! s-s-steamies!!!

>>712764968 (OP)
Real question here, can you dump a game key card.
damn that a huge hit for emulation if the only way to get game data is download it from internet and not using something like MiG dumper

>>712764968 (OP)
Nintendo gave third parties some rope and they chose to hang themselves with it, it really is that shrimple.

>>712764968 (OP)
I only cloud load PC games. And I have lost access to several. But I do it and take the risk because they are deeply discounted. Anything full price, and I mean god damn anything, is physical or I do not buy it. Full price digital is bullshit since they don't have to produce anything.

>>712764968 (OP)
i hate nintendo but i also hate physical and i'm glad the market is going to digital

>>712780435
I mean, people could rip digital only games on the switch like the fire emblem 1 rerelease, so...

>>712780435
We'll need to wait for system hacks for any chance to dump the actual content from those games, after they've been downloaded.

>>712780473
If a junkie does drugs, who's to blame? Him for willingly choosing to poison himself or the drug dealer for providing him with the product?

>>712769536
“No it is you who are the tranny!”
Nice one

>>712772321
The new and old cart lanes are identical, the new rom chip appears to just be able to run faster as long as Switch 2 is accessing it.

>>712764968 (OP)
I'm never buying game key cards so only 4 games for me

Fuck Nintendo

>>712770134
>now

If you defend nintendo you are a tranny

>>712771759
>buy physical copy of elden ring ps4
>dont have internet
>game starts up just fine as v1.0.0
thats the sony experience

>>712780545
>>712780591
so unless we have a switch 1 situation, emulation, "game preservation", and pirate are fucked even if there a playable emulator cause they can't game keycard games.
but hey at least it up front and not like the 68MB files or something on PS5 for DOOM

>>712764968 (OP)
Why is daemon x machina both on physical and key card?

>>712777710
You fucking retarded nodevs need to shut the fuck up for once with this retarded shit. There is NO SUCH THING as uncompressed textures in a fucking video game, you mongoloid, everything is BC/DXT compressed, always, inherently. Nor does UE4/5 support uncompressed audio in final cooks of games, it's ALWAYS compressed

Holy shit fucking KILL YOURSELF.

>>712778619
>Literally all it would take is Nintendo saying "Whoopsie, we need to take down our Switch 2 servers, sorry! We need the bandwidth for Switch 3, 4, 5, etc.

Doesn't even need to be about bandwidth. It's like people don't want to recognize that if these servers are kept for more than 10 years they will eventually need specialists involved to deal with older network and storage mediums. Which is extra costs the companies might not want to take. This is on top of the possibility that there might be future compatibility issues with older networks and storage types due to new technologies or a.i. integration.

>>712780621
>third parties can't help themselves
They literally have the option to release on a regular cart but choose not to, Nintendo had the same option but chose to take the option that gives the customer what they want.

>>712780829
>buy DOOM dark age
>No internet
dics have 85MB of data only.

>PSN crash
>Can't play game both Single and multiplayer

peak sony experience in 2025

>>712780981
Shut up retard

>>712774935
can modern pcs even play these discs?

>>712778619
>360, ps3 and vita servers are still up
>meanwhile nintendo shut down the wiiu and 3ds'
They're the leaders in killing their servers too.

>>712781031
why would you play that shitty game?

>>712781208
It's better than eternal and D16

>>712781024
Except Nintendo charges a premium to third parties to choose that option

Value did that over a decade ago.

>>712781304
>Value
>whataboutism
Good morning Sarrr

>>712780998
You're right, it could be any number of reasons, and it could also just be because they don't want to. I don't think they're obligated anywhere to keep servers up past their console's lifespan.

>>712781304
>phoneposter

>>712781080
He's right though, games don't ship their textures in bitmaps they ship them in compressed formats that the GPU can read natively, this has been the case for a long time.

>>712781252
They charge them a premium because those carts cost a premium, CD Projekt was willing to pay for them but Square Enix just outright refused for a game like FFVII Remake which is also just a port, it really shows where priorities are and how third parties think of you as a customer.

>>712780910
I think in Japan it's a key, and in EU and NA it's all on cart.

>>712781252
How high is this premium? And why are companies like Bandai Namco willing to pay it for Tomagachi but Square-enix isn't willing to pay it for Bravely default?

>>712781235
the doom with a shield and parry slop is better than the those? are you a fucking kike or a retard?

Valve did that over a decode ago. Sony and Xbox have been doing it.

Nintendo is the last man standing strong with their first party (once again). They can’t dictate what third parties do.

>>712780981
Since you're someone who probably knows what they're talking about, can you explain what's causing the bloat in modern games? The last Blazblue game was something like 80 gb or something ridiculous for a 2d sprite fighting game. At some point, the devs updated the game to be only 16 gb. What the hell did they fix?

>>712781493
We don't know, it wouldn't surprise me if it was actually the same price as a physical PS5 game since third parties on Switch would undercut that as well by going for a 2GB cart and demanding you download the rest of the game.

>>712764968 (OP)
Both Sony and Microsoft have digital only consoles which is much more damaging than the game key cards

>>712781457
>They charge them a premium because those carts cost a premium
And they charge more money than they cost to make

>>712781975
Which is an industry standard process, it's called a licensing fee, the majority of the premium is definitely due to the cards high manufacturing cost.

>>712782112
It still costs more for third parties than for nintendo to use that option

I get a Nintendo system for Nintendo games. As long as Nintendo chooses to eat the cost on their end, I won't care

>>712772417
> That fucking cable
Why though

>>712764968 (OP)
Physical and ownership don't matter anymore snoychud.
Unless Nintendo reverts their decision and then hahahahahahahaha get rekt snoys I OWN my games!

>>712766075
>believing anything nintendo says
Nintendo also said they wouldn't impose censorship on 3rd parties.

>>712769582
>>712769606
>>712770912
>>712771986
>>712773291
>snoys lying again

>>712782190
Because Nintendo doesn't pay the licensing fee for their own hardware, you can just look at the original Switch to see how low third parties will stoop, even though an 8GB cart was price parity for a physical disc release for PS4 third parties would choose often to undercut even that and release games on a 2GB cart and force people to download the rest of it, and that was the price at Switch launch, 16GB carts most likely dropped in price quite a bit, possibly to the previous 8GB point and third parties still chose to release their games with downloads.

>>712781546
Yes, it's better than bing bing whooo eternal and shitty because only one gun is good 16, there's actual thought and level design which wasn't there before, not that you would know Retard.

>>712769827
There's a cheaper 8GB cart, retard. That's the one they should compress their games to fit in. BD is 11 GB

>>712764968 (OP)
They were the only ones preserving it in the first place.

>>712782751
>JUST LOWER YOUR QUALITY BRO

>>712782640
>Because Nintendo doesn't pay the licensing fee for their own hardware
Nigga who fucking cares, that's not the point, repeating it isn't gonna change the fact making games physical is more expensive for third parties than it is for nintendo. Are you retarded?

>>712770715
Somehow, Sony ended up winning the console war.
Everyone was disappointed and confused.

>>712782829
??????
We were talking about compression.

>>712782751
Actually no, it's just key card and a 64gb card. Nothing else.

>>712781132
Can't you still download games you already brought though on both the 3DS and Wii U?

>>712782296
you noticed that but not the O button being fucked?

>>712783045
I've been bamboozled

>>712782902
And that's a set value just like it is on every other platform, third parties are cheaping out as always, they don't respect their customers and even if it was significantly cheaper they would overwhelmingly choose game key cards over a physical on cart release, we know this from a history of this shit.

>>712764968 (OP)
just in case you fags were wondering why the sudden uptick of anti-nintendo spam again, it's because snoy is killing their policy of free games you get to keep with PS plus

>>712783315
There's enough autistic kusony fans here to keep it going without that shit though.

>>712783209
Or, Nintendo could offer smaller, cheaper cart sizes, so developers had an option to release physical without having to splurge on a 64 gb cartridge for a 14 gb game

>>712783416
they do allow that option, it's called "release a switch 1 game"

>>712770715
last 2 xbox game there barely data on disc and you have to download everything, aka game key card in disc form.
i don't think that a win you want

>>712783315
????
somehow i missed that news, can i have link?

One sad outcome of all this is that there was already low 3rd party sales on nintendo platforms, everyone only buys first party games and buys 3rd party on other consoles. This will make that gap even bigger since only nintendo is going to have full cartridges, millions of people will have full libraries without a single 3rd party game

>>712783416
I know you're the same retard I have to keep explaining this to but that most likely is not possible. There are 2 possibilities here, either the 64GB rom chip is the same price as smaller ones and thus Nintendo deemed it pointless to make smaller ones or Nintendo worked out a deal with the company providing these chips and chose a single size to get the price as low as possible with 64GB being the ideal price/size option.
Nintendo has literally nothing to gain from mandating 64GB carts if they can produce ones even at 8GB for less, Mario Kart is their largest Switch/Switch 2 game and it would fit on a 32GB cart.

its ok when valve does it

>>712783734
It will be interesting to see how LRG, fangamer and other indie physical publishers handle switch 2, indies did quite well on switch 1, so if they get proper physicals they might end up doing better than third parties like bravely default and outlaws

>>712784000
LRG has no issues with selling key cards (as seen by Raidou) so I don't think they have any actual standards.

>>712784050
Doesn't LRG regularly scam their customers?

>>712784050
That's mostly on sega, they clarified that if it was up to them they'd make proper physicals if given the chance, silksong and mina the hollower might be the first looks we get at proper indie physical releases on switch 2, nine sols too, maybe

>>712784087
Correct, they're the definition of shady fucks. It's been heavily documented.

>it's Nintendo's fault that Vile Shlomo and Rabbi Goldbergsteinwitz can't afford to spend a dollar per game cartridge, despite the price increase of the game
Why do Snoytrannies keep blaming Nintendo for publisher's jew practices? I sure the fuck don't remember people bitching about Snoy putting games on Blu Ray when it was new or the proprietary mini disc shit that the PSP had. I'm sure it cost more to publishers, but they ate that cost because it's business. Nintendo gives publishers a different, more jewish option, and Snoytrannies shit on Nintendo instead of the jews.

>>712769649
I bought Puyo Puyo 2 S...

>>712764968 (OP)
isnt this what playstation 4 and 5 do

>>712784341
no, they just give you a code in a box

That's what nintendofags fucking deserve. Piracy is the only real way of game preservation, even if you got the game on a physical card you're still missing out on DLC and updates.

>>712784341
It's arguably worse and has been a thing since the 360 era but nintendofags finally got a taste of it

>>712782192
>As long as Nintendo chooses to eat the cost on their end, I won't care
It's adorable that you think Nintendo is taking losses on hardware or software.

>>712784050
That was a Sega promoted release aka non-numbered release. LRG has no say in that deal.

>>712770898
I was going to get it but didn't because of the key card thing.

>>712770898
>not even 4k
What a shitty mess, I'm not buying any key card game, I'd sooner buy digital.

>>712784425
Later prints of Nintendo releases contain pre patched versions of games, not DLC.

>>712769185
>split fiction
I said bullshit, the co-op slop 5 hour game like all the others Fares has put out? I look it up, and sure enough, 85 gigs. This industry is so fucked.

>>712784850
Free DLC is included, and there are also limited prints that include the DLC like MK8, SwSh, SV and splat 3, splat 2 and BotW too but those are japan only

>>712784331
Should have gotten the switch 1 version bozo

>>712784951
Oh yeah, actually I do remember my brother buying Sword and Shield with the DLC, guess I was wrong.

>>712764968 (OP)
Has nothing to do with Nintendo, third parties are cheap.

>>712764968 (OP)
FYI, this was already happening on the original switch.
The Spyro trilogy remaster forces you to download 7GB in order to play it.
A bunch of other 3rd party games too but that’s the one that I remember distinctly since I played it recently.

>>712784341
It’s definitely what Xbox has been doing for the last decade.

>>712785393
Nintendo didn't give them this option last generation, they did now. They should've said it was their way or the eshop.

>>712785587
Holy Moly

>>712785808
See >>712785587

>>712767424
>MS is pushing the gamepass like there's no tomorrow

There are FOUR layers of gamepass.
3 in Console and Ultimate for PC. Ultimate is the true gamepass and the others only has 25 games of the catalog

>>712785843
Some games had the mark of the beast, yeah, but they were in the minority. Now true carts are in the minority, that's the fault of key cards

>>712764968 (OP)
How many times does Nutendo need to doink people in the dick before they wake the fuck up.

>>712770236
>game leaks before release
>rush to whatever mom-and-pop broke street date
>buy the game
>can't play it or dump its data until the actual release
That's the real reason why Nintendo did it, they're just not using it on their in-house titles yet so the potential backlash can settle down

>>712786181
Someone explained in another thread that the way the Switch 2 reads cards with SD Express makes it near impossible to read cartridges below 64gbs without just making special lower storage cartridges that would just end up more expensive to make than the 64gb carts.

>>712786181
Remove key cards and games would be a digital download in a case.

>>712764968 (OP)
I'm so tired of those nonsensical melties.

bump

>>712764968 (OP)
I mean without that option, I feel like a lot of these games would have been digital only. So in the end, what's really lost?

>>712764968 (OP)
You mean valve did that and pc users gobbled it up in droves.
Because pc killed physical years ago.
Or sony and xbox with their code in a box for 10+ years.
Least you can resell a GKC.

>>712789817
For starters, they lost me.
Switch 2 has four games and for digital bullshit I already have a PC.

Do I care that Nintendo is killing physical? No because for PC the physical has been dead since 2010 or whatever. Ether Arma 2 or Race 07 (racing sim) was my newest/last physical PC game I bought, and if memory serves right you couldn't install them from dvd, you needed steam? I could be wrong. Either way, people are blowing this "oh no nintendo is killing physical" out of proportions, when big portion of PC gamers haven't had PC cases that even support disk trays for very long time now, vast majority of "airflow optimized" cases don't have slot for DVD drive anymore, meaning if you want to use you'd have to use external one on table or something (yeah right). I'm of course not completely braindead so even though I haven't needed it I still will continue to have one on my cases, but just so you know other than for burning audio CDs for cars, there's really been no use for the drive even for me. Yes I'm of opinion Steam killed PC gaming, servers hosted by GameSpy Arcade was peak online gaming (both pc and consoles that had servers hosted by them), once those servers went out the void didn't ever quite get filled. Valve did same with HL2, it completely killed HL1 modding because you couldn't just easily convert HL1 mods to HL2, it completely killed all of the fun from online gaming even on their ecosystem. Valve is not your friend, but Nintendo could be.

>>712770419
>You joke, retard, but with every victory companies get like this...
And whose fault is that? I didn't buy the new nintenslop console, I'm not fucking retarded.

I was unironically into the Switch because I liked that it was the last console supporting actual physical cards. They have a lot of appeal to me. I especially liked that a lot of indie games that I would never imagine would get physical release were getting them. I even got a fucking Touhou game, something I never saw coming.
I understand this isn't really Nintendo's fault if it's third parties doing this, but it's still a make and break point of the console for me regardless.
I am totally cool with the eighty dollar game price tag. But this shit is a big deciding factor for me.

i still don't understand these game keycards,

>>712790307
tl;dr, it's a way for games to have physical store presence despite being digital only.

>>712764968 (OP)
why is it nintendos sole responsibility to keep physical games alive? they are a company not your personal servant, faggot.

>>712790307
Their just physical CD keys.

>>712790307
It's mostly a retailer thing, Nintendo doesn't want to piss off the retailers completely, they helped sell switch 2

>>712790307
Reusable download codes basically. That's it.

>>712790395
Because they were literally the ones solely responsible for keeping physical games alive?

>>712783416
there are no smaller sizes being manufactured, retard. nintendo can't change that.

>>712790307
It's basically a download code you can use more than once and actually sell unless others.

>>712790386
>>712790406
>>712790421
>>712790434
so digital games that need a physical cartridge to play but they're not tied to the players account and can be used/swapped around like regular game carts?

>>712790494
>and can be used/swapped around like regular game carts
I'm actually not sure if this part is the case.

>>712790494
Yes.

>>712764968 (OP)
Just gonna pre-order digitally for most games and cut the middle man out, if the card just downloads a digital copy from the eshop, then theres no real point in having it since physical copies can save digital space, but now it feels like a waste in both aspects

>>712790494
yes, it's basically a physical cart in terms of buying/selling or even theft, but you just need to download the game before playing it.

>PPT2S is a game key card
Welp so much for buying that I guess

>>712766075
Remember when Iwata somehow managed to compress all of Kanto into one GBC cart for G/S/C?

>>712790610
The one advantage is that you can resell the key card.

>>712764968 (OP)
Not buying those games/I already have them for the switch
Next FUD

>>712790565
>>712790629
..but why? i understand what they are now but why do they exist? what was the point? why not just keep physical carts? all they're doing is bloating storage on the console which no one likes to do

>>712790307
All it has is a code that downloads the entire game off the eshop, thats it.

So if you live in an area with crap internet or the Switch 2 store servers go down permanently, they're useless.

>>712790792
Because there's currently only one file size available for keycards and many third party devs are unwilling to pay for that, but still want physical store presence.

>>712790824
Also seems these things would probably not be popular among collectors unless they just wanted something to display.

If you have to download the entire game anyway, might as well just buy digital, probably cheaper too

>>712790920
Different anon, Are the physical key versions and the cards the same price?

>>712790792
3rd party devs don't want to pony up for 64gb cards to put their games on and the way the Switch 2 works that it can't do S2 cards under 64gbs because of the SD Express. it is why game key cards exist.

>>712786304
>2017 Nintendo: "we're going to adopt paid online and the only bonus you get for paying to use your own internet is a rotating selection of NES games"
>2017 fans: "go to hell"
>2025 Nintendo: "we're massively deincentivizing physical games, charge $80 for Mario Kart, and demand $95 for a set of replacement Joycon 2s that are less repair-friendly and will almost certainly be needed because we still use the same core stick modules as the Switch 1"
>2025 fans: "hey, as long as it makes Sonyfags and Steam Deck owners upset, it's all good"
It's like the Pokefags somehow spread their brainrot to all of the Nintendo fanbase after they cried and punched holes in their walls over people criticizing Sword and Shield.

>>712791007
No. Digital products cost the same as physical, meaning keycards cost the same as game cards.

>>712790920
>>712791018
alright this makes more sense than i thought it would, so regular nintendo games won't be using game key cards right? i rarely buy games for the switch that aren't developed by nintendo because i can play them on other platforms

>>712777629
>>712778247
20 different language settings
as in they have the same game copy pasted 20 times in there just to save time and ship the same shit anywhere in the world

>>712791112
Ah, but it still sounds like you might as well buy digital anyway unless you want something to display

>>712791046
This guy in the photo sounds like he has serious issues

>>712791046
Didn't Nintendo announce they offer free Joycon 2 repairs like the original Joycons? Like yeah it is still shit they figure they might drift again, but they could've easily not done this.

>>712791046
>waaah paid online
who the fuck care? Xbox has had paid online since day 1, and we got to play games like PSO. Kinda hypocritical when in age of android/iphones people suddenly can't afford 20/y or 40/y sub for NSO , when xbox has been doing 50-60/y for 20 years now

>>712791176
Apparently, most if not all of Nintendo's first party titles will be game cards.The key cards are mostly for third parties.

>>712791176
Yeah. Nintendo is on record stating they themselves aren't using game key cards for their own games.

>>712790494
Yes...but no. They are digital games that need both a physical cartridge and internal/sd express card storage to work.

You can use it like a regular cartridge in that it is not tied to a account or a specific Switch 2. But "swapping" it with a friend or selling it would require them to download the game on their own express/ switch 2 internal storage too using the key card.

What we don't know is if the digital download itself is tied to your personal switch 2 or if it can moved or copied over to another Switch 2/express card.

>>712786605
that's retarded misinfo when it can read carts below 64gb just fine, it can read switch 1 carts
what happens instead is that switch 2 carts are SDXC, which come at a bare minimum of 64gb chips, even sd cards below that literally do not exist for this format

>>712791395
you're retarded, find an sd express card 32 gb, they don't exist. nintendo would have to find a manufacturer to make them specifically for nintendo which would cost more.

>>712791320
>and internal/sd express card storage to work.
The switch already comes with that built in anon, a whole 250 or so GBs of it.
>What we don't know is if the digital download itself is tied to your personal switch 2 or if it can moved or copied over to another Switch 2/express card.
The download is like a steam install, without your login it doesn't work, but you can move it around.

>>712791475
this is literally what i said nigger

>>712791218
I'm sorry that I'm not celebrating them for doing the bare fucking minimum for the Switch 2's go-to input method that costs a goddamn Benjamin, while lacking any of the premium features or safeguards that competitive third-party controllers have been implementing for over half a decade for much lower prices.
>>712791235
>why aren't you talking about Xbox in a Nintendo thread???
Why did your mother drink paint thinner while she was pregnant with you?

>>712764968 (OP)
Luckily, most of those key card games are also shit. Only hogwogs legacy, hitman, and Yakuza are worth anything. Bravely Default should be on the list too, but it's the laziest port of a game I've ever seen.

>>712765075
We all did.

The Switch 2 can read Switch 1 game cards, can't it? Can't third party devs just keep making Switch 1 games instead? Though I guess with the existence of keycards which are likely way cheaper, there isn't much incentive for that.

>>712769282
wasnt nier on cart for NA at least?

>>712791826
>The Switch 2 can read Switch 1 game cards, can't it?
it can
>Can't third party devs just keep making Switch 1 games instead?
they can, even nintendo themselves are going to be releasing switch 1 games deep into 2026 (tomodachi life)
SE and crapcom are just jewing out and trying to cash in switch 2 prices for what are functionally digital games

>>712769282
Rember how asinine the cloud version games were?

With Switch 1, Nintendo was offering the cards of following sizes in GBs: 2, 4, 8, 16, 32. With Switch 2, they only offer 64GB or a game key card with probably like a few Mbs. Clearly they're trying to kill physical media. 64Gb cards are ridiculously expensive, especially for small and indie devs. They can still order their games as Switch 1 card with upgrade for Switch 2 via online update. But the situation for the foreseeable future of physical media is grim.
Again, this is Nintendo itself pushing the physical media out. If they didn't, they would offer more options for Switch 2 cards

>>712764968 (OP)
>give capitalist corporations the opportunity to penny pinch
>they penny pinch
Holy crackers

>>712792926
Did you just... Did you just say capitalism is bad and can't regulate itself? Did you imply free market is a joke? ARE YOU A FUCKING COMMIE OR SOMETHING?

>>712765075
fpbp

>>712764968 (OP)
Bro really counted DXM in both groups

>>712764968 (OP)
Still better than Valve

>>712764968 (OP)
Nintendo isn't responsible for what options publishers decide to take.

>>712765075
FPBP

>>712774105
You don't own any Nintendo, Xbox, Sony, or Steam game. You just rent a licence.

>>712792823
Devs can just optimize their games and release switch 1 versions anon.
Shit like the megaman collection didn't need to be switch 2 exclusive, it could have been switch 1 with a built in patch.

>>712764968 (OP)
Thank you based Nintendo, this will just make it easier to emulate when they update Ryujin in a month's time

>>712794021
The very existence of the keycards is probably enough to dissuade them. After all, Switch 1 cards might be cheaper, but they can never be as cheap as keycards.

>>712765847
you can resell key cards though...

>>712794105
then they get to enjoy being the cucks to pad the switch 2 library while taking the flack for being cheap niggers lmfao

>>712764968 (OP)
>Physical on Switch 2 is doing well and good
>But 3rd parties are cheap and chose to instead go with the cheaper option
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE NEEENTENDOOOOOOOOOOO
If Marvelous can do it, then so can any other publisher
>B-B-BUH MUH PREZERVAYSHUN! (as if you care)
Those games would've just been codes in a box without the ability to be resold

In short, what he said >>712765075

>>712764968 (OP)
Once tech catches up again more games will be available fully on cartrige. For now it's a litmus test for which devs want their customers owning games and which don't care.

>>712790285
It is really sad after how good the Switch was for physical games, I agree.

I'm watching Dragonar for the first time and got to her introduction like two days ago, first time I've seen a pic of her too what are the odds

>>712770134
>now

>>712780981
>inherently
retard

>>712770430
>Devs haven't forgotten all the issues that they caused in the formative years of gaming be it restrictions, forcing cartridges on them, or just in general being a hindrance to what they wanted to do.
>Because they have to be different than the rest of the pack this led to having to have pared down versions of games and adopting their gimmicks. This also leads to third-parties ignoring their platforms entirely since the effort necessary to even make an attempt on that platform couldn't be justified.
>Nintendo gamers buy Nintendo games primarily. All the sales figures corroborate this. Indies and Nintendo-exclusive third-party games are typically the exception and even then for the latter it's a mixed bag of success.
You can even see this in how Octopus Traveler 1 (Which was an exclusive) compared to Octopath 2 (Which was a multiplat). Whether or not the third-parties that are multiplat get more of a focus in sales on the Nintendo platform is a coin flip. It usually has to be focused at certain demographics (That young adult phase as far as I can tell) and also specific genres.
>For the longest time it was a pain in the ass to release anything on their home consoles and see success which is why their handhelds were usually focused on.

I think Ubisoft is one that constantly flip flops on Nintendo and seemingly gets burned every time they try to do exclusives for them or make the effort to port stuff to their systems. Mario + Rabbids for example underperformed despite both games being awesome, the Rabbids in general had wildly fluctuating sales, ZombiU sales almost immediately disappeared after release despite being advertised to hell and back for it, Starlink: Battle for Atlas had that Star Fox collab that didn't really net them any eyeballs, etc.

>>712771804
I play most games like this and have yet to find a truly game-breaking bug.

seething physicalkek the thread, digitalGOD can't stop winning

>>712764968 (OP)
What's the problem?

>>712764968 (OP)
I dont even understand the keycard thing lol I just buy the games, I feel like a lot of you re crying over nothing, do you own the netflix shows you watch? fuck off then

>you can actually buy and sell your digital games now
>This is being heralded by retarded faggots as a bad thing

Because it's so much better buying a game on a digital store and then never being able to sell or trade it right?

>>712772515
Because the only benefit of digital is its convenience and nothing else. You give up essentially all your rights as a consumer to pay for the convenience.
>You can only refund your game on one single platform (Steam) and only if you have played it for two hours or less. The rest will only honor a refund if the game is borderline unplayable like Cyberpunk on release and any bank chargebacks instaban your account until you sort that out and pay them the money you charged back.
>If you spent upwards of $80 and hate what you got you have to eat the cost instead of being able to sell it.
>You can't lend your games to anyone unless they are literally in your household (Steam) or a friend of yours (Switch).
>Digital prices are always higher than physical copies on console for 6 months to 2 years on average since they don't have to compete and can't undersell B&Ms, and on PC you have to be comfortable with grey market sites if you want competitive prices within the first year or so. Physical game prices only start to shoot up years later and only after events such as limited prints, an asshole Youtuber covered it as a "Hidden gem", or it's Pokemon. For the most part they stay cheap and get cheaper as time passes.
>If a game has been delisted you can still buy it if it had a physical release whereas digital has to pray for CD keys from B&Ms, and once those run out it's over.
>Physical copies can purposely stay at 1.0 versions for better framerates, exclusive content, or unpatched glitches simply by staying offline.

There is no benefit to digital outside of convenience and multiplayer if you're pirating. Piracy is objectively better in every single way for a consumer than digital purchases as it allows infinite copies, no DRM, any version you want, access to delisted or pre-order exclusive content, and it's free.

Physical copies benefit the consumer in so many ways and it's asinine that so many people are acting like it's good it's dying.

>>712764968 (OP)
Whether collecting physical games is cringe or not, this is a just a straight up negative for the customer.
The only ones benefitting is the studio who can put these out cheaper while selling for more.

>>712765170
second post best post

besides, the data will be archived online by pirates anyways.

>>712784000
Strictly Limited just sent out e-mails to everyone stating they won't do Game Key Cards. If they can manage to get the carts for their games I have zero clue why no one else can. The only downside is SL is one of those limited run companies that mostly relies on obscure SHMUP games, Wonder Boy releases, and extremely niche titles to the point that 99% of people will never buy something from them. I've been a member of their site just to buy Sayonara Umihara Kawase on Vita back in like 2017 or so and have yet to see anything else worth getting from them since.

LRG has said they're going to be sticking to proper releases so we'll have to see if they'll keep their word since they've been having fiasco after fiasco over the past two years and they're having trouble getting literal PS4 reprints of the Yakuza games out to the point they've delayed them twice already. You can get them for $20 brand new right now on any major site physically yet they can't reprint them at all? We don't even know if they'll have the latest updates or DLC.

>>712792823
The new physical standard (which is faster) does not support cards smaller than 64gb, it's not Nintendo's fault.
They have all their first-party games on the cartridge, there is no reason third-parties can't do the same, balme them for being cheap.

>>712765075
FPBP
collectorfags have been really emphasizing the FAG recently

>>712799446
>I have zero clue why no one else can
We know for a fact that Square Enix is struggling and their CEO is a retard obsessed woth NFTs
also Japanese corporate at their finest theur copyright laws went full retard in the last 10 years or so, to the point where moding and cheating is ilegal there

>>712799582
the switch 2 cart being around 600 mb/s pretty fucking fast compared to the first one only being 100 mb/s

>>712764968 (OP)
I'll buy first party games physical, and third party games digital. Doesn't bother me.

>>712766075
I miss the pre-jeet steam design

>>712778020
>Explain to me how ANYONE would be okay with this situation.
They will just sell it to you again, durrr.

>>712769282
I was actually typing out a reply then. You very nearly got me, you lying fuck.

>>712800236
>bro I need to get my $5 indie game physical so the chicks know I'm cultured

>>712778020
You can still download any Wii game you bought digitally right now. So, until that option goes away, this will never be a problem.
>b-b-but the download code runs out
What kind of fucking moron actively chooses to buy a box with a code in, but then doesn't use the code immediately?

>>712765075
>DA TROOOOOOONS

>>712771146
I thought consoles were supposed to be easy to understand

>>712764968 (OP)
why is this supposed to be so much worse than buying digital games on previous consoles or pc which has been a thing for well over a decade?

>>712766075
That's not the problem.
The problem is they only offer expensive as fuck 64gb cards or relatively cheaper key cards.
Small games are obviously just going to use the key cards because fuck paying the high prices, and big games can't fit, so they also go the keycard route.
It's a shit situation nintendo's manufactured. They needed more storage size options.

>>712783416
>splurge on a 64 gb cartridge
lol
yeah im about to splurge, too, go ahead and open wide

>>712794105
physical media production is cheap on itself they are literally saving pennies on the time it takes to write the cards with the game data, its about copyright and companies not wanting you to own games

Its more expensive in the long run to host digital media and worse to the enviroment overal

>>712769896
>he pays to play roms online

>>712800629
>It's a shit situation nintendo's manufactured.
Considering some of these companies were already doing this shit on the Switch when they had various differing sizes of cards, I'm not letting AAA companies off by blaming Nintendo just because they're being cheap.

>>712770134
>now
anon.. it's such a meaninglessly spammed gotcha that i'm surprised it didn't get the soi wordfilter treatment long ago

>>712800629
Nintendo's game carts are made by Macronix.
Seems like they're only offering 64 gb switch 2 carts at the 500-700 mbs read speed

>>712781493
Because Bravely Default is 40 bucks. They're not gonna sell that for 70 or 80 just to have a physical release.

>>712777797
That's a silver lining, at least I know which releases to avoid like the plague because they have a giant waning label on the front. I hope it becomes so well known and widespread that the difference in sales becomes obvious and developers see how little we want it.

>>712800629
>The problem is they only offer expensive as fuck 64gb cards or relatively cheaper key cards.
The manufacturer only offers 64gb at the moment, they don't have any smaller ones. Also you're insane if you think that companies as large as capcom and Sega couldn't eat that cost without worrying.

Not to mention they could also just fucking use switch 1 carts if they really wanted to.

>>712781493
because Square Enix is retarded and believes that no one outside of Nintendo wants turn based games and that gamers still want a good NFT game

>>712801035
It's dead. No releases aside from Nintendo's will ever be in actual carts.
I don't know what they're charging, but it must be insane if none of the 3rd parties went for them.
Probably a large factor why games are so much more expensive on it and why you're paying 10€ more for physical in Europe.

>>712801004
>They're not gonna sell that for 70 or 80 just to have a physical release.
They don't have to bump up the price, people would have actually bought the game had they made it a physical release.

>>712801254
>but it must be insane if none of the 3rd parties went for them.
It's probably only pennies more than what it was on switch, you have to understand that third parties ALWAYS go with the absolute cheapest option available to them out of sheer greed.

>>712800710
On Switch it was 5% of games at best and it was mostly shovelware garbage like disney shit.
On Switch 2 atm it's literally all third party publishers except CDPR and Marvelous.

>>712801402
Which should show you how Jewish third party developers are.

>>712801378
I'm not giving Nintendo the benefit of the doubt. If they're willing to upcharge their customers this much, they're railing the 3rd parties too. They've historically treated them like shit.

>>712801464
Yes, all the devs who were perfectly okay with putting out physical games on Switch suddenly became turbo greedy on a dime.
I feel so bad for my sweet innocent nintendo who had nothing at all to do with it for having to deal with scum like this. Urk...

>>712801575
>all the devs who were perfectly okay with putting out physical games on the absolute smallest carts they could manage to the point where some unnecessarily impacted the quality of the game on Switch suddenly became turbo greedy on a dime.
Missing some crucial information there anon and no, a chunk of these companies, especially capcom, either used partial downloads for games like their Megaman collections which had no business not being a full physical release or used streaming.
They've always been like this and the only reason you didn't want to see it is because you want to use any and all issues caused by them as a reason to shitpost about the switch.

Remember how Nintendo even released physical versions of the Xenoblade Chronicles expansions?

>>712765075
>you will own nothing and you will be happy is ... le good actually
nintengoyim everyone

>>712764968 (OP)
I dont give a fuck about physical videogames, always thought it was retarded
Alsio didnt steam do that 20 years ago already?

>>712792926
As opposed to communist corporations? Oh wait those are worse
>>712793009
Shut up commie

>>712801291
You're misunderstanding. The whole issue is that it is nonsensical to sell a budget title on a very expensive physical medium.

>>712801575
Capcom and Square both did this shit on the Switch 1, and they'd do that shit now too. The price they're charging for these games, whatever the cost is for the highest cards, they'd make it back instantly.