https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oc26EKhZNyM

WHOOOOOOOOOOOP

>>712769506 (OP)
What exactly doesn’t make sense? It’s a trans allegory about a woman trapped in a man’s body chasing her ideal self

Mario if he

What doesn't make sense? It was the beginning of the lame subversion of expectations/genres trope in the videogame entertainment medium
Durr, Mario just thinks he's da good guy!!! Jonathan Blow-it-out-your-asshole
>>712771235
Summed up in 3 words, thank you

WOOOOP

>>712769506 (OP)
Best thread

>>712770237
lmao

itt: games for people who smoke or drink

>>712771235
mario if he nuke

Time to preserve this ancient culture.
WITH ROCKETS

>>712771235
mario got that goin' back in time
>jazz hands
potion

>>712770237
Say what you will about Jonathon Blow, he has a good sense of cinema. The way he's sitting there as a dark figure with the window in the background is absolute kino.

>>712769506 (OP)
there is literally no point to the game

>>712773586
Like people who smoke to get high or drink to get drunk

>>712775983
On the other hand, what a sad sack bitch

>>712770237
>>712775983
>Recognizable silhouette
Kino

>>712777089
Hitchcock esque

>>712775983
that wasn't him, it was the guys making the documentary

>>712769506 (OP)
the point of braid was solving it was equal to or more brainpower that split the atom, and it was unethical for games to be that hard. Or difficult at all.

>>712775467
POTION

>>712769506 (OP)
If you don't know about the dev, this game is just a nice puzzler with a cool artstyle. I didn't bother reading the lil walls of text at the end.
Genuinely one of my favorites

>>712778637
>If you don't know about the dev, this game is just a nice puzzler with a cool artstyle
Same thing with The Witness, his other game
If you just ignore the man behind the games, they're nice relaxing puzzle games to just chill with

>>712770237
Fucking ponce.

>>712778637
The faggots harping on about how artistic and deep it was not being around anymore probably helps

>>712775983
Bro, that's basic shit.
Have you skipped more than 50 years of cinema history?

>>712783046
Just because it's tried and true doesn't mean it's not kino. Sorry you have no taste.

>>712782852
>not being around anymore
They aren't around because they killed themselves, Soulja Boy was right.

>>712783119
I bet you "wow" at sparklers.

>>712783248
I bet you're fun at parties.

>>712775983
It says a lot. Not only does the window serve to outline his silouette, it juxtaposes his affluent in the world with his self-imposed suffering. He lives in a high-rise with a great view, the world outside is sunny and bright and brimming with oppportunity. Yet for some reason, he sits indoors with the lights out, seething, he has everything but the identity he vainly desired. He chooses to sit in darkness, he cannot accept the love given to him because it doesn't feel real. He doesn't even love himself. But it's because he doesn't like Souja Boy or his genuine affection, he doesn't love anyone else and therefore cannot love himself

>>712783195
Yeah and Souja Boy is in debt because his next 20 albums sucked, he knocked up women, and inexplicably spent millions RENTING his mansion the whole time

>>712783248
No, but I giggle and clap at sparklers

>>712784241
Kek. Very kino observations.

>>712784446
>Souja Boy is alive and has children
He's a good role model for this cursed world

>>712769681
joe blow never recovered from this

>>712784507
i wave them around and burn cuss words written in cursive into my vision

>>712770237
>My name is Jonathan
>I made the Witness
>It was difficult to put the puzzles together

I haven’t played it so I could be missing something about the design here, but he seems to make a good point in that there doesn’t really appear to be any fail state. You can just keep reversing time. Is there any challenge to the game at all?

>>712784551
>Calls out faggotry among nu-rappers
Soulja Boy is the last true rappist

>>712770237

>>712769506 (OP)

YOUUUUUUUUUUU

>>712769506 (OP)
AINT NO POINT TO DA GAME

>>712783248
are you jonathan blow?

>>712785549
Nah, Jonathan Blowing his load over his on silhouette though.

>>712783304
You need to go back.

>>712784507
I bet you do.

>>712769506 (OP)
Kingdom hearts.
>Let's make a crossover between two companies that have nothing to do with each other like Marvel vs Capcom but without cucking
>Let's not have Mickey be the main character
>Let's have the Disney princesses except Ariel be the princesses of hearts
>Let's have heartless' have no bodies and nobodies be heartless
>Let's not have Sora fuse with Goofy when he uses valor form for the first time
>Let's have a side character from a Final Fantasy game represent Hercules and a minor character represent Frozen
>Let's have Sora be the star in the first 2 1/2 games and have a girly man (Axel) and a manly girl (Aqua) be the stars of the rest of the games.

>>712785886
You need to have sex

i wish shitting on joblo wasn't just about regurgitating a silly video
what about all the journo cocksucking? the stupidly high budget? sheer pretense?

>>712786491
sure want to talk about him trying to reinvent the wheel with making his own engine
spending YEARS and YEARS in the process of doing so
remaking braid for no reason and it selling "like dogshit" WOW good thing his dad works for the govt so he can get another handout of millions

>>712769506 (OP)
There is no point to the game

>>712786451
I was shitposting before about you being Reddit, but damn, now I just feel sad for you.

>>712786757
can't admit he simply wants to tinker, not sure why the videogame angle is even necessary maybe for showing how big his brain is via abstract non-stories?
probably the biggest cautionary tale for all the enginedevs, making a system yourself for no good reason
there are no truly unique mechanics, much less ones that require an ad-hoc engine; and certainly zero bragging rights since it's a commercial product, and not novelty freeware like kkrieger or somesuch

>>712787193
>now I just feel sad for you.
I don't think about you at all

You don't ever run out of the going back in time potion

>>712770237
wooooOOOOOOOOP

>>712784446
Damn, that dev got mindbroken by THIS?

His sheer arrogance with this game makes me happy he's bankrupt.
>I got 10/10 scores....and I was SAD...because....they didn't GET how DEEP my game was....it was just so artistic...so intellectual....and they didn't GET IT

>>712770237
Based Alfred Hitchcock

https://youtu.be/zRSXZPmRz3o

>>712769506 (OP)
The plot of Braid is that Tim is a man cheating on his wife because she doesn't fulfill his unrealistic desires for an ideal woman, i.e. "the princess" (World 6). As a result of his double-timing they break up (World 5) and Tim goes soul-searching but still can't fulfill this ideal (World 4). Eventually he retroactively grafts his perception of his ideal woman onto his ex-wife and rationalizes away the problems that led to them splitting up (World 3). He tries to get back with her to fulfill his ideals, but she has already found another man, i.e. "the monster" (World 2). Tim starts stalking her out of obsession, but he is discovered and she flees with her new lover (World 1). Tim's failures gives him the presence of mind to recontextualize his experiences, realize his shortcomings, and begin to make genuine progress towards self-improvement and actually achieving what he desires (Epilogue).

The princess explodes in the alternate ending because she is by definition an unobtainable ideal, by actually "touching" her this causes the illusion of this ideal to fall apart and shatter. Also, the books in the Epilogue are allegorical to the themes of Braid and shouldn't be conflated as the meaning of the story itself. The game is not about nuclear bombs.

Did /v/ even play Braid? I had a 360 back when it came out, but it never even remotely interested me. Did it actually do well, or was it just more grist for the 'duh games are art' argument?

Ain’t no point to da game

tfw too low IQ to understand braid

>>712788010
I broadly share the sentiment, though I can't recall anything related to cheating, but epilogue always struck me as one last FUCK YOU before sending the player away. What is it "allegorical to" exactly? A way to reiterate that Tim's own flaws and obsession drew away the princess? Contrast of perfect and ideal with human and real?
I really don't see how the research and the candy store offer anything that wasn't already showcased with the last level.

Thread theme:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALXdOfp8Ynw

I rather enjoyed that part in Anniversary Edition where you pull the lever to change the song

>>712788736
The cheating bit ties directly into World 6's gameplay and dropping the ring (i.e. Tim's wedding ring). If you read the World 6 intro books it should be clear. He's trying to get with other women but they take note of his wedding ring, which is a red flag, and avoid engaging deeply with him. So he starts taking it off and hiding it to prevent it becoming a barrier, even if he feels deep guilt about his actions. All this culminates with the world 6 portrait which shows him giving up and finally abandoning the ring in some random garbage can in the city.

Broadly speaking the overarching theme of Braid is obsession with unobtainable ideals and the consequences of pursuing them no matter the cost. The main "plot" of the game ties into that theme separately from the allegorical stories in the epilogue. The candy store story, for example, I believe the child is meant to represent "mankind" and the woman "mother nature". I'm not sure about "it-from-bit" but magnetic monopoles are kind of a fabled physics thingy, like a perpetual motion machine, and "ethical calculus" probably refers to a concept of a logical and mathematically provable (i.e. absolutely correct) system of morality. I would also say the child's struggling and temptation to use any means, including violence, to get his way, and the woman's habit of always tempting the child by walking him in front of the candy store where these things are just so close and visible but impossible to reach, are also a big part of this allegory. Think of World 1 and the princess running right above you, for example. Close but unreachable (unless you have the stars of course, which can only be themselves obtained through obsessive behavior, such as waiting 2 hours for that stupid cloud to move).

2236 A.D is schizo core

>>712769681
Why does the Limbo guy say he has to go rescue his girlfriend? It's supposed to be his sister.

>>712791328
>It's supposed to be his sister.
The game itself never specifies

So what's Braid about? I remember seeing it mentioned on some "Games with a dark twist" list as a teen and they said he was some villain chasing a girl or something?

>>712792573
That's exactly it
Also nuke lmao

I had this game confused with Brink for a while so any time anyone mentioned Brink I was picturing a little guy in a suit.

>>712780157
I’m a high test heterosexual white male, but I did the soi face when I managed to beat the final puzzle as the song stopped.

When is the Sokoban game coming out?
I actually think it looks really good...

>>712797280
It'll be out when it's out

>>712787634
Not by SB. By the journo type faggots.

Jon Blow is like a surrogate Terry Davis, in the sense that he has really based takes on technology and programming. He is uncompromising.

>>712784931
>Mr. Boy

>>712769506 (OP)
>"reversing time at the end of the game reveals that you're the bad guy! wowowow so deep!!!"
fucking hate braid

>>712797319
And we like that.

>>712769506 (OP)
>>712798976
the worst thing to happen to games was to consider them art, now youve got all these irritating faggots that dont make anything fun, they just make shit thats supposed to be "deep" or abstract in a "look how clever and artsy i am!!" kinda way
the actual cancer that is killing gaming is performative artfags coming in and shitting up the place

>>712799128
On the other hand, considering them art gives games certain legal protections. But, I don't care about the discussion beyond that.

>>712791328
I don't understand your question.

>>712784446
>Souja Boy is in debt
because YOU didn't buy his cheap Chinese handheld with 8000 games on it.

Dude, he was ahead of the Steam Deck. He's an innovator. And he somehow forgot to call his game boy knockoff the Soulja-boy.

mario in a business suit