Thread 712774156

Here's your Paper Mario killer

>>712774156 (OP)
What a generic name. Might as well have called it Sonic Story: The Bad Guys

>>712774156 (OP)
It killed itself more than anything

>>712774156 (OP)
Tapping into the neurosis around SatAM/Archie Sonic could have worked, the execution was just not quite right.
Conversely I'm not sure if it would be for the better now.

Heh, only thing it killed was Archie Sonic.

https://youtu.be/5gsp7eNmT-c?si=OGeMOPfqq_m8992F
this sound is in the game

>>712777085
10:30
https://youtu.be/CTEyRNraNeo?si=X-fpM6s3u_JKdALy

>>712777085
>>712777209
https://www.myinstants.com/en/instant/yaaaaaay/

my favorite yay sound

>>712774156 (OP)
>Aims at Paper Mario
>Hits Sonic's Comic
The tragedy of a generation.

Why did Ken Penders throw a hissyfit again? because they used his official fanfic content without his permission right?

>>712774156 (OP)
>>712776659
Did Sonicsnoys actually believe they would ever actually "kill" anything Mario

Almost as pathetic as snoys that rooted for Palworld to kill Pokémon.

>>712777526
They used stuff that was too close to his ideas for comfort.

Of course, when he actually tried to sue EA and Sega the case was thrown out. Only Archie was incompetent enough to lose.

>>712774156 (OP)
I always thought it was weird that during the intro for just 2 seconds you can see a pink echidna looking dude attacking an enemy with a staff, and he never appears in game.

>>712777702
Oh.
That's just Shade with Big's fishing pole overlapping her.
I've been wondering about this for years and it appears I'm just mentally disabled.

>>712777543
>Sonicsnoys
Cease your retardation AT ONCE.

>>712777837
>shademan

>>712777526
He claims that they were plagiarizing him.
Gleefully ignoring his own plagiarizing of other franchises, from the beginnings of his work at Archie to this very day.
Basically, he's a massive hypocrite.

Sometimes, I play bad games on purpose out of morbid curiosity and to appreciate the good games I play otherwise. This is the next bad game on my list.

>>712778178
The gameplay isnt terrible, its just very blah. It feels like a Viva Pinata RPG made for the DS.

>>712777526
Sort of, but reading a bit of his portion of the run it's clear he wanted to hijack the series from the beginning.
Or to be more precise he didn't care about Sonic stuff specifically, often dismissing the series lore and main character, but wanted some vehicle with a built in, impressionable audience for his ideas he'd stolen from Star Trek and whatever other geek shit he thought was high literature in comparison so I'm being overly meticulous but I want to clarify I feel he likely sued less out of any sense of delusional Sonic fan fic creator pride someone unfamiliar with his history might imagine, and more worrying Sonic Team might beat him at that game.

I hesitate to even inadvertently agree with Penders, but he would not have been wrong given things like Super Sonic and the Death Egg as examples of the series benefitting notably from what started as parody from a more popular work.

>>712778572
>impressionable audience for his ideas he'd stolen from Star Trek and whatever other geek shit he thought was high literature in comparison so I'm being overly meticulous but I want to clarify I feel he likely sued less out of any sense of delusional Sonic fan fic creator pride someone unfamiliar with his history might imagine, and more worrying Sonic Team might beat him at that game.
That is bizarre but you know what, this is the same series that spawned Sonichu and about a bajillion other OCs, its just that this guy had an officially recognized vehicle insert them into. So yeah.

>>712777670
>when he actually tried to sue EA and Sega the case was thrown out.
Not exactly, the case wasn't actually thrown out, Sega was saved from Ken going further due to the statute of limitations. The moment anything from Chronicles is used Ken can continue the lawsuit and rape Sega in court.

>>712779119
Sega's lawyers will tear him a new one.

>>712779119
Get back to working on your shitty comic, Ken.
Maybe you'll get the second one out before you die of old age.

>>712779245
Nah Ken will win again and will somehow end up with the rights to Knuckles.

>>712778572
>often dismissing the series lore and main character
From what I hear he only worked on Knuckles because his ideas for Sonic were all rejected.
I'd imagine that, if he was allowed free reign over the main character, then we would probably would have stories about hedgehogs being the master race and a million hedgehog OCs instead.

>>712779604
You're right. Sega was strict on Sonic, but didn't give a fuck what they did with Knuckles.

>>712779710
And that bit them in the ass. At least we got best dad out of it.

>>712777209
>10:30
Why does one screen have a zoom of Sonic's colon?

>>712774740
There is unironically a Sonic comic called, 'Bad Guys'

>>712779710
They’re still like that in IDW. They made Silver some gay boy sissy who’s never rude and Sega let them get away with it. They don’t give a fuck about the side-cast.

Why does Sega refuse to let Atlus make a fucking Sonic RPG? Are they retarded or what?

>>712777085
Anyone got that puke sound effect that plays when you get hit?

>>712777085
fucking amazing sound design

>>712778572
The harsh truth is that the penders run of the archie comic is the best state sonic has been in since the release of the Knuckles the Echidna expansion of Sonic3.

>>712777209

Am I suppose to hate this? The game doesn't look like a 10/10 .. but there are some things that I like about it. The game starts out a little too dialogue heavy for my liking. Bu it looks like a standard turn based RPG with a lot of sonic elements. The comic-book styled cut scenes with the Sonic Adventure art style seem OK.

>>712783685
I've been in two Sonic comic read togethers and both times I remember Penders' sections being pretty fucking trash

post the gif of Tails getting floored by a Swatbot or something

>>712774156 (OP)
It's completely alright. My only complaint was by the end I was really damn tired of doing those long ass minigames every time I wanted to do a decent attack

>>712777543
>Did Sonicsnoys actually believe they would ever actually "kill" anything Mario
Yes. See Sonic Racing Crossworld

>>712783698
Like I said, gameplay is just meh, but also remember people expected sonic the hedgehog (known for high quality music) and Bioware writing, instead we got 4/10 across the board, everyone expected an rpg already so there was a bit of relief that sonic wasnt going to try snd reinvent the sonic wheel but excel at everything else, which it didnt

>>712784214
Sonic and sega all stars racing transformed is unironically better than any Mario Kart

>>712774156 (OP)
More like eardrum killer
Have you heard the OST?
It's criminal!

>>712777349
I refuse to believe people enjoy the comics nowadays, it's just melodrama shit.

>>712781241
Everything I see from these Sonic comics I hear so much about is so fucking cringekino that it loops back to just being plain cringe

>>712774156 (OP)
This game felt really low quality

Reminder

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrpglqYeQBc&list=RDlrpglqYeQBc&start_radio=1

>>712785415
Im sure the story that they lost all the music files is probably true, but every single other fucking thing about the game sucks as well

>>712784979
>>712784710
The IDW comics are 90% melodrama 10% gotta go fast. The Archie comics were a roller coaster of insanity but almost always delivered the action.

>>712784201
Even the Devs knew so they added a Chao that bypasses the attack minigames (4 in total)

>>712784419
>A sonic game with a bad OST
They did the impossible

>>712785473
There's actually a drum part of Nocturne that wasn't turned on before release. And it makes the music WORSE.

Who was the faggot who decided that every move and action required an Elite Beat Agents minigame so I can place an Aztec curse on them.

I found the dialogue options for this game the best out of all the sonic games that featured them.

Probably because you had a designated response that's in character with Sonic and serves to end the conversations as soon as possible in his style.

>>712777209
>3:00

>>712784214
>>712784390
Shut the fuck up, snoy.

>>712774156 (OP)
they should actually try to make more sonic rpgs, I get the sense that it's better suited to delivering what sonic people actually appreciate about the franchise anyway

>>712774156 (OP)
I remember playing this, not being able to find the last few rings in the city zone. Then giving up.
If there was a mod to fix the music I’d play it.

>>712785497
>The IDW comics are 90% melodrama 10% gotta go fast.
You literally just described Archie.

>>712774156 (OP)
>actually killed Paper Mario for almost 20 years
Well done!

>>712777085
Five Nights At Sonic's

>>712789797
Archie melodrama was only in the Dork Age. Flynn's run trimmed that shit way down.

>>712777543
>Almost as pathetic as snoys that rooted for Palworld to kill Pokémon.
It kind of did, in a Pyrrhic Victory kind of way...

>>712784710
IDW is a water-down clone of old Archie's worst elements, like the evil twin of nu-252 Archie. No vision, no ambition, no real love of the franchise. Just a vehicle for mid-life crisis revisionism by people who hate kids and teens.

>>712792462
The 'evil twin' was an even bigger cliche back when he actually initially debuted. You should be mad at Ken for copping out to the trope, not Ian for making it palatable and more original than it originally started as.

>>712785782
And then made it random whether you got any of them at all.

I liked this game and thought it was fun to have different teams that somewhat works.
Sonic
Shadow
Amy
Shade

>>712774156 (OP)
Unironically I got this when I was 11 in 2008 thinking it'd be like Paper Mario and dropped it super damn fast.

>>712792556
What you say is correct, but also unrelated. I was comparing IDW Sonic to Archie Sonic, saying that one was like the evil twin of the other.

>>712792707
My b. At the very least I proved my autistic devotion.

>>712774156 (OP)
I liked it as a kid, granted it was my first time actually playing a sonic game but it made for a great introduction. The game being somewhat short was a blessing, because it meant that even kid me could beat it and then experiment with builds and w/e on subsequent runs. Figuring out that you could recruit Omega was the coolest thing ever.

Having replayed it recently, it still holds up pretty well, but the flaws do stand out. I don't really notice the poor sfx since I grew up with them, but the music is pretty bad.
I don't think I'd ever recommend to someone else, unless they were a fan of DS games and were looking for something specifically like it

>>712792393
>It kind of did
Delusional snoy.

>>712774156 (OP)
So what was up with the soundtrack

>>712793994
they accidentally lost the WHOLE soundtrack late into development and scrambled to recreate it from scratch, IIRC