Thread 712791803

>le villain is...evil!!
>he's just evil ok theres no reason why he just is!!

>>712791803 (OP)
who said he's evil

No one cares about this game's writing. In fact no one cares about anything about this game except "DUDE YOU FREAKING CLIMB THE BOSSES!!!!"
Quite possibly the most grossly overrated game of all time.

>>712791803 (OP)
They are creatures, they are not good or evil.
>>712791904
Kill yourself.

I don't think you understood the game, fren

>>712791803 (OP)
The Colossus aren't evil.
The essence of Nimrod that's inside them is.

>clearly states you will pay a price for this service, and you must work for it
>basically tells you its a bad deal
>"Okay."
how is this evil

>>712791904
i dont give a fuck if this is bait.
Kys

>>712791803 (OP)
how would dormin having a motivation make the story better? you can't even strictly call him a character

>>712792008
>>712792391
Instead of saying kys maybe actually write a meaningful rebuttal? 99% of the time when people talk about this game all they talk about is the bosses and more specifically the scale of them. You literally have more discussion on the simple premise of climbing bosses than on any actual mechanics of the individual fights.

>>712792278
Game takes heavy inspiration from Babylon.
Hell the city in Trico is just straight up Babylon with the tower of Babel.
If you know Nimrod's history, he's a massive dick.
The occasional nice gesture gets overshadowed by the rest of the bullshit.

it's a game with minimal storytelling about archetypal characters. Boy goes on an adventure to save the girl from a demon's curse. Its simplicity is why it works so well.

>>712792530
>muh headcanon

>>712791904
Nah bruh this shit was lit.

>>712792619
>it's headcanon
Spell Nimrod backwards

>>712792423
>is the only voice for the majority of the game
>a bunch of people show up specifically to kill/contain him for [REASONS]
"He's not even really a character akshully"
Retard

>>712792698
you're a nimrod

>>712791803 (OP)
Just like real life.

>>712791904
>>712792512
take the L, faggot. Writing is good because its simple and understandable, even for tronned out retards like you.
Maybe TLOU2 is a better contender for writing in your headcanon, huh?

>>712792439
Dis colossus be zesty

>>712792745
Fine I'll do it for you
Nimrod
Dormin

>>712791803 (OP)
The colossi are literally the good guys keeping satan sealed and you release him

>>712792843
How is dormin evil?
He even keeps his promise at the end, seems like a standup guy to me

>>712792843
nothing will stand in-between me turning into a baby for those mommy milkers

>dude everything is like... le morally grey... there are no good guys or bad guys
>but you MUST feel sad when we play le sad music!
>also there's no content and everything is conveniently in ruins so the only gameplay is (bad) horse walking sim and some lame puzzle bosses
>oh and it runs at 10fps because nips suck at coding
The most overrated boomer snoy slop of all time and contributed to the movie non-game trend. I'm glad The Last Guardian flopped and the dev team died.

there is literal zero evidence of dormin being evil, he even keeps his word

>>712791904
Correct. Ico is also overrated as fuck. Two boring dogshit games.

>>712793180
He keeps his promise but then goes back to doing evil shit or whatever, I can't remember what the actual lore was anymore. You see what he ended up doing in one of the other games

>>712791904
All things popular are faggot tranny liberal dogshit, yes. Your mindset is incredibly fresh and new.

>>712791803 (OP)
I'm very sure that their a sort of stone golem, not exactly "alive" per say, their sole purpose is to protect the piece of Dormin inside them, remaining dormant until someone carrying the ancient sword gets close, I can't imagine them wandering around doing who knows what, they're not wild animals living some sort of life, you can see or hear them awaken every time you reach their arenas.

>>712792512
You've clearly made up your mind and won't change it, so why should I waste my time for you to reply with "lol that's stupid you're stupid".

>>712791803 (OP)
Is The Last Guardian any good?

>>712793386
She didn't say that, you just have tranny living rent free in your mind.

>>712793246
Yep, absolutely nothing except black and white,
I don't remember them telling me that.
What more do you need for your ADHD to be satisfied?
It was a very ambitious game, a little too ambitious for the system
It's hilarious how you Nintendo fanatics always lose your shit over any game not on your systems.

>>712793363
>one of the other games
None of the studio Japan games are connected idiot

>>712793589
>game that is popular and loved is overrated! it's actually shit and sucks!
Looks like they said it to me, child. Find some fresh original material.

dormin could be the queen
if you listen closely their voice is both male and female

>>712793736
>gets both a remaster and a remake
>zero attempt to restore some beta content
It's not like those versions satisfy purist snobs in the first place so they could have at least gone the extra mile.

>>712793857
that gif was not funny, animal abuse is only funny to psychopaths.

>>712793952
>animal abuse
holy shit do you think it's abuse when you give a baby a lemon too?

>>712793967
Can I get a retrospective that interprets the game through the lens of trans allegory?

>>712793638
>None of the studio Japan games are connected idiot
nta but this is just false:
Fumito Ueda literally said SotC was a prequel to Ico
you can find the beach from the end of Ico at around 5B

>>712793736
https://youtu.be/_uhpHgrIj6k

Hopefully this comes out soon.

>>712791803 (OP)
Attack on titan was based on this?

>>712793386
I don't know what's dumber, NPCs who reject everything that's old, or NPCs who reject everything that's new.

I beat the remaster thrice and ascended the bridge. For no reason other than I wanted to. I am based.

>>712793952
big deal, he made it eat something spicy
it's gonna be fed like a kang and protected until its death like all pets

>>712792512
>can't tell if bot or genuinely retarded
Giving you lot internet access was a massive mistake.

>>712795380
>NPCs who reject everything that's old,
These are dumber.

The magic it had has been diluted overtime because it is so regurgitated, I'd argue.

It was just one interesting PS2 game in a sea of interesting PS2 games and I think it's "flaws" heavily contribute to the "PS2 vibe", of it all. Playing it somewhere else is like playing Ridge Racer V or Silent Hill 2 somewhere else, it just ain't right.

The PS3 remaster glossed it up a bit and made it more difficult ironically. The the remake came out, brand new game with all the high budget bells and whistles of a "tentpole title".

It isn't just one interesting PS2 game anymore it's something with "a legacy".

I don't know if I'm making sense.

Yes Shadow of the Collosus on PS2 2005 is a masterpiece.

>>712796068
I hate pretentious faggots like you so much

It's so fucking good, the ending is kinda weird, still wondering if I dreamed it all or you actually turn into a huge shadow just to get killed by some small shits.

Anyway, fantastic game, made all subsequent games with climbing feel inferior, including BotW, so disappointed that enemy climbing was programmed but only used with the boulder things.

>>712791803 (OP)
>>712791904
Don't care what you faggots say. Game is still kino. Game is still one of the GOAT of all time.

>>712796068
>I don't know if I'm making sense.
you aren't in any way

>>712796828
I wonder how that Crimson Desert's climbing will feel, it looks cool.
And yeah it really goes to show that Team Ico could even surpass Nintendo if they had the same kind of support. BOTW tried to copy them and failed so badly lol.

>>712791803 (OP)
If only the game would be playable at 60 fps in the PS2 emu

>>712798247
it is

>>712796068
Ps3 version used European version as a base, so it was only harder for Americans who had only played the nerfed “we think Americans are unskilled” ps2 version.

>>712796068
So you think the framerates inconsistency are part of the charm? I get what you mean

>>712798589
this is the most retarded rumor there is

>>712797164
Dunno, seems overwhelming but we'll see, hadn't heard of it before tho

>>712791803 (OP)
I don't think Dormin is meant to be evil at all. I think he's a neutral God of nature, but he was sealed off because people were afraid of his appearance and started interpreting him wrongly. Like his design and what Wonder's clan says about him is meant to contrast with what he actually is.

Once he was sealed off, the forbidden land became a wasteland without any life in it. His chamber (that generates light) turns out to be a beautiful and lively garden at the end of the game, once Mono gets to it. When Wonder brings Dormin back and fuses with him, life starts coming back to the Forbidden Land with new animals and plants. Dormin's voice is both male and female, symbolizing the motive of Adam and Eve in Eden. Etc. Etc.

>>712791803 (OP)
>13 big ass dudes just strolling enjoying like
>suddenly a little boy comes and stabs you in the eye to try and fix some tainted pussy

Wander was the real villain.

>>712791803 (OP)
They aren't evil though. If anything the protagonist is, he killed them all just to ressurect his dead girlfriend. Simps ruin everything

>>712791889
why else would he be sealed but such an elaborate ritual

>>712799750
bad guys sealed him

>>712799729
But Wonder did what Dormin wanted. He wasn't his friend, but he did a massive task for him, which resulted in the Forbidden Land becoming lively again

>>712792008
>creatures
they are more like robots.

>>712792008
>>712792391
>>712792783
>>712793386
>>712796980
>this much cope

>>712791803 (OP)
The story of The Tower is as old as The Flood.

>>712795036
No
Based on this

>>712791904
the art is nice

>>712801795
why did you reply to that?

>>712791904
This isn't Elden Ring

>>712791803 (OP)
best settings to run on PCSX2?

>>712802168
pic related or set up parallel-GS

>>712802882
ps3 is superior experience

>>712803026
if you want the game to look and play worse sure

>>712803152
t.contrarian pro

>>712798838
>4th from the bottom left
Dormin/Wander transformation?

>>712803484
why are you projecting

>>712799679
>>712800005

Is the false narrative in the room with us right now?

>ackshually there is no definitive ending, just make up conclusion in your head
why are japs such hacks?

>>712792512
Kys tho.

>>712803719
ps3 has true widescreen, sharper visuals and higher framerate, I'm not a fan of overblown bloom in the ps2 version either

>>712803026
If you like losing your balance 3 times more often sure

>>712808591
PS2 also has widescreen you dumbass. And when emulated runs at 60fps and the visuals are better than they are on the PS3 version(which also plays worse).

>>712808591
You c an control the bloom on PS2 too, not shown here is disabling it entirely.

>>712808978
>And when emulated runs at 60fps
and then drops to 20s, 30s, 10s fps at random intervals throughout any Colossi boss fight

>>712809443
if you have a toaster maybe

>>712809742
i accept your concession

>>712791803 (OP)
Ico is better

>Ico (Ueda team)
>Metal Gear Solid 2 (Kojima team)
>Devil May Cry (Capcom Production Studio 4)
>Silent Hill 2 (Team Silent)
>Klonoa 2 (Namco)
>Jak and Daxter: The Precursor Legacy (Naughty Dog)
>GTA III (Rockstar North)

2001 had a lot of development teams release their PS2 debuts

>>712809794
...at being boring dogshit, Fromsoft completely btfo Ueda by taking his artstyle and putting it in a good game

Thoughts on Ueda's original version of the ending, where Mono was going to wake up earlier, start glowing white, and live together in the forbidden land with still physically "corrupted" Wonder?

>>712791803 (OP)
>no one has ever made a game similar to this game
>the ones that copy it are worse
>the only guy trying to replicate the colossi climbing and feeling recently is some YouTuber game dev that mysteriously disappeared forever

this stupid fucking bullshit made me break my controller because of that stupid final boss where it's literally impossible to stand up on top of his head without the faggot shaking you off. fuck I'm angry just thinking about it.

>>712793564
Not as good as the previous two
>>712793857
They should have given us an enchanted ar-15 instead of a smoky sword

>>712791803 (OP)
this is such a retarded post OP I cannot help but hear DSP's voice say it in my head when I read it

Are the PS3 versions better?

>>712811092
I feel like that would have been a much better setup for ICO, creating the parallel of the “cursed” boy teaming up with the glowing white girl. SotC’s ending of “dude horned baby” always felt like a strange way of establishing itself as a prequel.

>>712811816
Yes unless you're a nostalgia fag with rose tinted goggles

>>712811816
no

>>712809794
sorry but Mono is sexier than Yorda

>>712793386
Since fucking when shadow of the colossus is popular ?

>>712811816
Like every remaster they fucked things up. Ico is missing post-processing effects and has notably worse textures and SOTC has you stagger around a lot more while climbing and has downgraded effects.

>>712791803 (OP)
Holy shit This boomer game is so boring. If I want to fight bosses, I play dark souls

>>712791904
The soundtrack is nice
https://youtu.be/bvYmAfGcgF8?list=PL5E08MKKtwr0JrUhNFumlEvme8-sp5b7c

>>712804953
Wtf this is a blue board

>>712803719
>>712809041
>>712812742
>anti-soul gas

>>712791803 (OP)
>le
>>>/r/eddit

>>712809794
Yorda is sexier than Mono but Shadow is the better game.

>>712813815
soul gas*

>>712791904
Spbp

This game was peak brown and Grey slop

>literally warns the boy that this is a bad idea
>still upholds his end of the bargain when he is freed

For a sealed evil god he was pretty chill

ITT: illiterate browns pretending to miss the point of a 20 year old game for teenagers

>>712791803 (OP)
>actually the evil guy was a good guy all along or had a bad experience that turned him evil
Post-modernism was a terrible mistake.
>>712791904
Actual retard.
This is why people that put SotC above Ico are despised.

Both of you, kill yourselves.

>>712803516
8th colossus.

>>712791803 (OP)
>evil demonic spirit is evil
Yeah, that's kind of how it works

>>712813839
Try again.

Why doesn't Kow Otani make more gaming soundtracks?
https://youtu.be/3amRinJ5ORI?si=pgdtiqcEXlDP38tp

>>712791904
Touch grass

>No prequel game that seems unrelated at first but ends up being about sealing dormin and splitting him up
Missed opportunity
>>712815285
Why is he evil?
Even satan has a backstory

>>712791803 (OP)
What's wrong with just a simple evil villain?

>first game by that development team
>started as a PS1 project
>released in the early PS2 years
>smaller budget
>Ico is voiced by a children
>Yorda's design and animation
>the lovely music that plays when saving progress (Heal)
>lyrical song (You Were There)

Ico has more charm than SotC

>>712799830
holy shit

>>712815285
>dormin
>evil

i don't get whats so great about Ico
i played the demo back in the day on my still working PS2 ( not anymore )
it was okay but nothing special, controls are shit just like SOTC and the whole brown and bloom grafix isn't doing it any favour

>>712791803 (OP)
How was Dormin evil? What did he done beside looking menacing and defending himself from couple assholes who wanted imprison him and ressurecting innocent dead girl?

>>712791803 (OP)
Genuinely, legitimately, honestly, truthfully, seriously, authentically, assuredly, admittedly, fairly, certainly, veritably the best videogame ever made.

>>712791904
Yes, I don't give a shit about faggy shit like "storylines" in video games. Climbing giant monsters and finding out how to kill them is fun. Looking at the landscapes and admiring the graphics and art style feels good. Tired of fags like Drukmann and Kojimbo trying to turn games into movies, which is a gay and dying medium anyway