Thread 712795030

Will Starfield be considered a cult classic in a few years? This game was massively overhated on launch.

It got the exact amount of hate it deserved and Bethesda have not made any real attempt to fix any of those issues

>>712795030 (OP)
no lol
it was a massive failure and example of terribly designed game

NMS mogs the shit out of this game and i don't like NMS

>>712795030 (OP)
No. It was the worst waste of money of all time.
>Terrible design
>Even worse story
>Space Brazil
The Toddler really dropped the ball with this one

>>712795912
Starfield is like the kid who shows up to class with a 100-page essay but it’s just lorem ipsum and screenshots. It sold itself as Bethesda’s magnum opus and ended up being a glorified loading screen simulator. Even No Man’s Sky, as much as I clown on its early days, actually turned it around. Starfield never even got off the damn tarmac.

>>712795030 (OP)
Starfield is worse than hated, it is nothinged.
It will be remembered as nothing more than a relic of the woke era of gaming.

>>712795030 (OP)
it's a shit game all the way down to its core design. unlike cyberpunk it doesn't have good parts it can elevate.

>>712797291
oh and the worldbuilding is some of the most atrocious I've ever seen so it doesn't have that going for it either unlike cyberpunk.

>>712797432
Yeah, Cyberpunk actually has thoughtful direction put in to world building and writing. Emil meanwhile doesn't think. That's why Bethesda game narratives are so shit and easily ripped to shreds when you stop and begin to express "WHY FALLOUT/STARFIELD/TES WRITING IS BAD, AN 11-HOUR LONG DEEP DIVE"

>>712795030 (OP)
I don't know about cult clasic, but yes, once it stops being profitable to shit on it (in like 10 years or so) people will look at it again and critizice it more fairly instead of just being hyperbolic about everything, even one pixel, and calling it the worst thing ever made.

>>712797994
>hyperbolic
you can absolutely trash the game just reading mission synopsis and showing your own honest gameplay without any funny music

>>712797432
Cyberpunk and Starfield have one thing in common. Neither was available on the Playstation store a month after launch.

>>712795030 (OP)
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>>712795030 (OP)
No, it's just completely mediocre with the only slightly interesting quest being the Space Pirate Faction and even then the bar is just so fucking low throughout the rest of the game even that doesn't really save it

>>712797153
>Starfield is like the kid who shows up to class with a 100-page essay but it’s just lorem ipsum and screenshots.

>>712799247
I still cant believe a multi billion dollar company with 1000 staff spent 8 years on this shit and not one person thought to mention that the creepy staring Aboriginals were weird.

>>712795030 (OP)
It's still overhated. The low IQs simply can't comprehend the structure of the game and walk around the empty world complaining there's nothing in it.

>>712798196
What you can't do is turn around and praise Fallout 4 after that and most Starfield haters love that pile of shit for some reason.

>>712803163
It's because you can completely ignore the dogshit main story and the sub-par side quests and just explore around, hunt monsters and discover cool environments as long as you want. Starfield on the other hand completely fucked exploration by making everything procedural. You just walk around in different colored deserts and find the same copy-pasted outposts over and over again.
Even though Fallout 4's storytelling is shit, it's still Citizen Kane compared to whatever Starfield was doing with its plothole and cliché ridden mess of a writing.

None of them are particularly good games, but Starfield is an unfuckable sloppy dogshit, that can't be saved by the modding community because it just did everything wrong. Modders know that there's no reason to polish this turd

>>712795030 (OP)
It's just eceleb anti shilling so I guess. I just think it's overall weaker than FO4, but also not as shit as anti shills claim.

Same happened with Fo76 and Cyberpunk, a positive reputation in the end after the anti shilling stopped and the devs put in some extra work.

>>712799247
>>712803024
If this game was better received people would be calling it sovl and sovlkino. It's just because the negative reception that people now made fun of bethesda NPCs, who have always been janky.

>>712806753
It's literal aids and you only like it because it's made by Bethesda

Will /v/ ever escape the template threads with provocative OP being bumped and neutral ones archiving with no replies

>>712806753
you eat literal slop just because it's served by a company you're sycophantic towards

>>712806951
You just think everything that doesn't conform to the hivemind groupthink is bait because you were in the bandwagon shitting on a game you never played.

>>712795030 (OP)
>Massively overhated on launch
Please don't spread revisionist bullshit Anon. Starfield was shilled to highhell by journos and Bethesda sycopants when it first came out. The only reason it soured in public perception was because enough people were dupped into playing it for word of how boring it was to drown out the shills.

>>712795030 (OP)
I really disliked it because of the loading screens and dropped it after about 20 hours. But I do want to play it properly, I will wait for the DLC if there is another to finish and for the mods to be compatible. I am far too lazy to fix mods if they update and break them.

>>712795030 (OP)
No, Starfield is too sterile, too safe. It has some good ideas. The graphic is not bad in interiors. But the whole premise of trying your best to be wholesome all the time just makes it boring. The exploration is also boring. so what is there? For me it was larping for 150h and making my own fun but it is not something i would want to replay.

>>712795030 (OP)
It's so bad that modders abandoned the game, it will be forgotten in a year

>>712807116
Nah, there was a massive antishill campaign against it by the same people who just say bethesda bad without thinking because of Fallout 76.

>>712806951
Something like 41% of posts are from Israel and half of the remainder are ChatGPT talking to itself.

>>712807261
Anon it's 2 years old, and still has a general on /vg/ last I checked

>>712795030 (OP)
Probably not, the Bethesda name carries too much stigma nowadays (from not just /v/), hell people were still pushing back on the Oblivion Remastered trying to shit on it at every chance despite it not breaking anything and being a close 1:1 remaster sans whatever obscure mods people want to use or graphics effect they didn't like that it brought on. I think people will warm up to it, but nothing like Cyberpunk

>>712807324
>4 day old thread
>Only 266 posts
it's fucking dead

>>712807375
Wasnt OBR one of the most well received games in recent years?

>>712807481
There's generals from much bigger games that don't even survive a month and have to be combined into a bigger general.

>>712795030 (OP)
>Will*LOADING SCREEN* Starfield *LOADING SCREEN* be considered a*LOADING SCREEN* cult classic in*LOADING SCREEN* a few years? This game was massively *LOADING SCREEN* on *LOADING SCREEN*
>fuck you

>>712807494
It's made by a different studio, all the bethesda shills I know no longer care about ES6 because of the flop that starfield was, and only cared about OBR because someone else made it.

>>712807610
I dont think anyone even knows the studio that made it and assume it was bethesda games even though it was that studio that remade a bunch of games b4

>>712797894
It is actually amazing how stark the difference is between pre and post Todd and Emil running Bethesda is, with Oblivion being the transition game showing how previewing how bad things would get. Both of them did their jobs better when they were confined to having no real input or control, and Bethesda's games were better for it.

>massively overhated
Gaming will never improve as long as retards like OP continue to exist.
No, Bethesda never gets enough hate because it's surrounded by a cult of normalfags and redditors who worship their shit games "ironically".

>>712807606
Bethesda games always had lots of loading screens, this complaint is just some revisionist nonsense.

Also not sure why people focused on the kraftwerk inspired night studio. It's meant to be kitsch and on the nose.

>>712807606
Ass-trail
Tongue

>>712807606
Its been 2 years and you people are still assblasted by a group of NPCs in funny costumes dancing in a cyberpunk nightclub planet if that isnt unbridled hate for a game & studio then I dunno what it.

Starfield is fine if it was released 10 years ago

>>712797894
Bethesda unironically believes in "dood it doesn't need to make any logical sense there's giant bugs and guns that pew pew laser beams it's so wacky and silly xD"
What's worse is that they infected the public opinion about the series with this garbage, see the shitty TV show and its defenders.

>>712797894
>>712807682
I was saying this about cyberpunk before the masses flipped their opinion on it. I said it about Starfield as well. Once people give it a second chance they'll see it's pretty interesting lorewise. It's just a shame it's pretty obviously a one off IP. I wanted them to explore the FC vs. UC conflict.

>>712797287
>Worse than hated // Nothinged

>>712795030 (OP)
No it's a bad game, infact as far as I'm concerned it doesn't get nearly as much hate as it deserves

>>712807829
Cyberpunk was always good but it has issues with bugs and performance at launch. Starfield is just an outdated and bad game

reminder Todd won and made his dream game, what have you chuds done with your life?

>>712795030 (OP)
Fucking dogshit

>>712807879
I mean /v/ is still shitting on it 2 years into its life not many games get shat on for that long, people still post>>712799247 despite it being something from when the game released.

>>712807773
>funny costumes
where's the funny?

>>712807892
>outdated
Nonsense. OBR sold like hotcakes and it was an absurdly "outdated" game. There's still big demand for bethesda-style open worlds. Starfield was just too much of an avant garde experiment for many.

>>712795030 (OP)
>massively overhauled

No, it wasn't.
Why are you making pointless threads like this? What do you get from it?
Starfield has received almost no support since launch besides an extremely mediocre DLC.

>>712807979
>people still post>>712799247 despite it being something from when the game released.

Because that's what the game looks like. It's not even cherry picking since that's what New Atlantis looks like. Something like the lighting in Constitution is the exception not the norm

>>712795030 (OP)
This game is so ass. Gentiles who've psyopped themselves onto liking it honestly need to transition already

I swear the game is well received, its only /v/ anti-shill campaigns!

>>712807726
its one thing to witness w3 release with no loading screens mid development, and your fallout 4 having loading screens because of old paradigm and no time to rework everything

its another to release starfield many years later except with far more loading screens due to it being designed to maximize loading screens

>>712808145
I like how you guys always fall back to the Steam reviews when the Metacritic numbers are green or even yellow.

>>712807773
>nightclub planet
No sexy characters, pretty girls in skimpy outfits in sight. Why would they make a "nightclub" if they are too prudish to actually portray how a nightclub actually looks like? This is why people hate it.. It's like making the next John Wick movie entirely without any guns, just Keanu pointing at people with his fingers while saying pow-pow. There would be no explanation or reason for it, you would just know its because they went with an anti-gun agenda while they are still trying to turn a profit. People are not retarded they can see what these shitty giant corporations are doing.

>>712807829
People never had an issue with Cyberpunk's story, even on launch. It was always the highlight of the game.

Nobody, not a single soul, has anything positive to say about Starfield's story.
They literally, unironically, re-used fucking Skyrim shouts. There is 0 excuse for anything in Starfield. Cyberpunk just had a rushed launch and was buggy (and even then, not nearly as buggy as people made it out to be).

>>712808003
people are willing to accept more jank and loading screen in the remaster of an older game than they are in a new game

OBR still had solid foundation and design unlike SF and FO76

>>712808201
loading screens were the fucking least of the game's problems

>>712807726
The difference is that Skyrim generally had two loading screens at most. Starfield has multiple to get to a dungeon

>>712808047
>Because that's what the game looks like
Yes, if you are an anti bethesda shill that never played the game.
>>712808145
60% positive review for a game that was heavily bandwagoned from the start is not bad.
>>712808275
>OBR still had solid foundation and design unlike SF and FO76
I disagree. OBR is the worst bethesda game I've played. Worse than FO3. People don't really have a valid reason for enjoying that game besides nostalgia.

>>712808236
You enjoyed the Shattered Shitter DLC?

>>712808326
they REALLY werent
In fact they amplify every other problem

Never gets old
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ws0ufhrgWJw

>>712808236
>when the Metacritic numbers are gre...
OH NONONONO...

>>712808434
YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO LOOK AT CRITIC REVIEWS!

>>712808363
>People don't really have a valid reason for enjoying that game besides nostalgia.
nope my friend who didn't play the original liked the world, goofy quests and how many ways you can break the game in
he stopped SF after 5 hours

>>712808342
> Starfield has multiple
not really unless you insist on not using fast travel.

>>712807773
Funny thing is, that place isn't meant to be funny. It's meant to be a le gritty drug fueled club.

>>712808363
Now go outside in the open sunlight and show the NPCs. Infact do it outside of the Constellation HQ where new players will always walk through since that's where you start the MSQ

>>712795030 (OP)
The game actually does have a pretty healthy userbase tied to it largely thanks to Xbox and Game Pass despite all the seethe and hollering surrounding it. Sadly you're pretty much going to have to go out of your way to find a non-chaotic community for it, because 4chan, Steam and the main subreddit all have people constantly shitting on the game.

>oblivion remake would cost a lot and require a lot talent to improve the gameplay and other aspects
>just tweak some stuff and use UE coat of paint
>FANS: OMG THEY KEPT THE SOUL!!! BETHESDA IS THE BEST AND THIS WAS DEFINITELY A CREATIVE DECISION AND NOT SHEER LAZYNESS

>>712808486
Different strokes then. I was bored to tears with OBR from hour 5, but enjoyed Starfield for 100.
>goofy quests
That and the non sequiturical world building were major gripes for me.
>>712808514
The fact you still keep on going on and on about the crowd NPCs which were outsourced shows how little you know about the game and how you just parrot anti shills.

>>712808371
I didn't even buy the game

>>712808259
You know you can mod the game to your own liking right? Like that's the main draw for most to Bethesda games. Don't lie and say you couldn't there's a faggot spamming his Marie Rose character in Skyrim daily on /v/'s catalog, oh right you'd rather bitch about the stupid costumes on /v/ for 2 years now nvm.

>>712808678
>Doesn't matter that it's bad because you can mod it
You lost

>>712808678
>mod cope
yeah dude by your matric doom is best game of all time (it kinda is ig ) because you can turn it into anything from sonic to survival horror game

>>712808664
idk what are you doing for 100 hours
with all the empty planets and soulless quests

also a lot of people only like bethesda game because of goofy stuff you can do

I will still not buy it.

>>712808678
>You know you can mod the game to your own liking right?
That's the thing though, many people are way too retarded for that, they absolutely require the game company itself to cater to all of their wants and needs to actually be able to find a game enjoyable.

>>712795912
Honestly Fallout 4 was terribly designed too. Bethesda has no fucking clue how to make games anymore

>>712808847
I liked it in similar vein to how I liked FO4.

Just a cozy game, building little outposts, building various ships. Clearing enemy outposts for loot. Mind you it wasn't as fun as FO4, so I only put 100 hrs into it which is not much for a Bethesda game.

>>712808635
>>oblivion remake would cost a lot and require a lot talent to improve the gameplay and other aspects
>>just tweak some stuff and use UE coat of paint
>>FANS: OMG THEY KEPT THE SOUL!!! BETHESDA IS THE BEST AND THIS WAS DEFINITELY A CREATIVE DECISION AND NOT SHEER LAZYNESS

>>712808678
Its not the costumes, it's the message it sends.
"Femininity is evil and disgusting"
This is what people reject in droves.
It's like someone writes "Kill XY" on the town square with blood, and if XY flips out, you'd just say: "just wash the blood off the pavement and stop complaining, it's just some pigblood, what are you an anti-bloodart bigot?"

>>712808376
They don't. If the loading screens weren't there, you would just realized quicker how empty the worlds are, how there are only legitimately like 10 PoIs that repeat everytime, or how every quest and NPC in the game is completely fucking generic and uninteresting.

If anything, the loading screens helped people not realize just how fucking bad the game was.

>>712795030 (OP)
Absolutely, look at SFV.

>>712808902
>I'M A SMART PC GUY WHO CAN COPY AND PASTE FILES!
Just admit defeat unc, the mod cope is pathetic. Modders are not on your side either because they all dropped the game.

>>712808990
that guy worked on starfield

>>712807773
>narrative tells you it's one of the most dark and dangerous places in the galaxy, where every vice and pleasure you can imagine is sated openly, where the absolute scum of the galaxy dwells
>you open the door
>it's literally a teenager's birthday party (even a teenager would find it lame, actually)

Yeah, no, you're fucking stupid.
That immediately told me the game was designed by fucking boomers who not only don't play videogames or consume any kind of media beyond capeshit, but most CERTAINLY never actually even been NEAR a seedy club, let alone inside one.

>>712809127
You will respect Starfield saar bloody bastard. You disrespect Starfield. You disrespect Bharat.

>>712797153
>No Man’s Sky turned it around
No it fucking didn't?

>>712808236
whats it like being delusional?

>>712809098
>COPY AND PASTE FILES
Yeesh, I can tell your mod setup is going to be full of conflicts and bugs if you think it's always that simple

>>712809179
it's a really good game if you like the kind of exploration and progression it offers

>>712809098
>Modders are not on your side either because they all dropped the game.
?

>>712809350
It's fine if you always liked it, but if you disliked it at launch but like it now you're just another NPC redditor manipulated by streamers and youtubers.

It literally
has the same exact problems it had at launch.

I feel like this game should've been the online one instead of Fallout 76.

>>712807773
>unbridled hate
Implying Beth doesn't deserve it.

How long before Starfield surpasses Morrowind in the modding department?

>>712809404
woooow these are all very relevant to the shit gameplay

>>712795030 (OP)
I hate how kikes have picked up on the gigachad meme and are now using it in their advertisment, pajeet shill farms and propaganda.

>>712808271
>re-used fucking Skyrim shouts.
I laughed so fucking hard when I heard the main character is called Starborn.

>>712809446
i don't give a fuck about any of that
i just liked how you could take off and seamlessly land on some strange planets
strip mine them and go somewhere else

my biggest gripe was the all the space community and trading bullshit because it breaks the immersion of being an adventurer and you feel more like some guy working in mines

>>712809661
>my biggest gripe was the all the space community and trading bullshit
And is that gone?

>>712809521
>the cope begins

>>712809704
no it's not, there's New DLC that promises that but i am done with it, but as i said it was much cooler than star field's travel to shitty pace using menus

>actual npcs defending loading screens
>actual npcs defending the lack of overworld
>actual npcs defending the ugly npcs and ""strippers""
Even fallout 4 has better looking characters

>>712809603
>Starborn
this is like a fucking skit some youtuber came up with
>what if bethesda made a sci fi game

>>712809871
because it's made by their beloved bethesda
soon they'll make this argument
>>712809245

>>712809921
I thought /v/ said modding was completely dead for Starfield, what happened?

>>712809921
so they did or didn't drop the game? the graph keeps going up and down whats up with that?

>>712809897
Probably something similar happened.
>Hey ChatGPT, write a concept for a game that is just like skyrim, but it takes place in the space, and its a futuristic sci-fi

>>712809818
So why the fuck did you say "they turned it around"?
>inb4 that wasnt le me :)
Dont bother replying

>>712795030 (OP)
Maybe when video games is so bad that the next bethesda game makes Starfield look like a masterpiece.
I mean right now people are warming up to Fallout 4 because it's a masterpiece compared to Starfield.

>>712810117
Without exaggeration, ChatGPT would unironically come up with something more interesting than Bethesda did.
That's how fucking bad things have gotten.

>>712808271
>Nobody, not a single soul, has anything positive to say about Starfield's story.
Because you only got your impressions from anti-shills that also didn't play the game or /v/iggers who also didn't play the game and just copied what other retards who didn't play the game said about it.

For me the most interesting part was the NC vs UC conflict, and the obvious under the table dealings their cabinets worked out between each other that's not conveyed to the player nor is part of the officially accepted version of the battle of chayenne.

>>712810429
True, but when the development was about to kick off, ChatGPT was still in its infancy state. Probably this was the best it could come up with back then. But this wont change in the future either... ChatGPT is not capable to oversee a huge intricate branching storyline, so they will just patch together shitty short stories incoherently while totally botching the art direction or game mechanics. They are as half-assed and effortless as they can be.

>>712795030 (OP)
It also had truly obnoxious people shilling it, so hatred flowed naturally.
You had people like Gman on the normalfag side lying through their teeth to trick people into buying it, and on here you had hordes of Pajeets spamming white man’s game to trick the truly retarded direction brains, and picking fights with other games that were doing better to distract people from the footage being posted.
Todd fucked up his marketing campaign royally, and that turned apathy into hatred

>>712810029
Modding on Starfield was never dead in the first place. I'm honestly surprised that's still said at all when people can look for themselves at any time.

>>712810841
To be honest, the Toddler probably didn't really oversee this one, Nobody did, that's why it totally falls apart. Even if an idiot leads something but keep is together and directs it to his idiotic vision, it will have at least an Idiotic Dna that appeals to people under 80iq. I think Todd was just jerking off on his yacht somewhere while auto agreeing to everything trough his secretary, so did every other "lead", maybe even together, who knows?

>>712811050
Most anons are unable to actually do basic research on their own, they need to be fed new information through 4chan instead, which is sadly filled with misinformation half the time. It's like getting your news primarily from Fox News or CNN.

>>712808271
>re-used fucking Skyrim shouts
They reused fucking DRAGONBORN name how fucking lazy is that?

>>712809818
kek good job proving his point
>NMS now is SO MUCH BETTER!
>has anything been improved
>no

>>712810590
>the most interesting part of the game is vague overarching political scheming that happens mostly in the background
Look I’m not saying you can’t find that interesting, but how do you not see that having this be your “best” is like saying the best thing about Skyrim is not just the civil war but specifically the double agent parts? Not the exploration or gameplay or roleplaying or memes or characters or anything else - just that.
Do you see why Shitfield is so universally panned now?

>>712807757
>MADAME...
>SAUVAGE's...
>PLACE...

Literally everything in shitfailed is lame and gay. Neon, the drugs and crime world, has got as much edge as a piece of cotton wool.

>>712811448
You were talking specifically about the story so I responded specifically about the story. I can also talk about how the exploration is better than in typical non bethesda open worlds but you weren't talking about that.

>>712811232
>Nobody did
but it did have a credited lead designer. there literally is one man who can- and should- shoulder all the blame.

>overhated
it wasn't hated enough

>>712811461
What do you even look for when it comes to edge? It's lacking in the sex crime department of course, but it's got active gangs, drugs, junkies, murderers, corrupt law enforcement, etc.

>>712811614
bethesdas overall leadership, the board, microsoft are responsible for steering the ship
individual devs doing the best they can doesn't really matter if the greater structure is rotten in the engine and company philosophy

>>712809179
It absolutely did. Shaun took part in one of the biggest gaming frauds, obviously so, but he did deliver on everything he promised and much-much more in the end.

>>712795030 (OP)
Star Wars Outlaws mogs the fuck out of Starfield.

>>712811716
I'm looking for the kind of permeating unpleasantness that soaked Cyberpunk 2077. A palpable aura of filth that makes you want to leave the area.

>>712811934
Well? Go on

>>712795030 (OP)
It has no interesting characters, narrative, combat, visuals, the biggest complaint about Starfield is that it's boring

man this should've been playable star trek with more action and NMS like seems less infinite exploration
instead we have boomers building ugly bases on empty planets
fuck TODD-lers

>>712812748
It's only boring if you are incapable of enjoying a game without flashing lights and loud sounds every 20 sec.

>>712811957
From a literal garbage sense, you likely won't be seeing much of them piling up in the city when it's conveniently sitting above a planet that is just pure ocean, people would just toss all that shit off the side of the city. Seedy-wise, that's more so meant to be shoved to the side as you would expect from a place sugarcoating itself as a city of pleasure, unlike Night City where you have a few pleasure districts meant to help distract how awful the whole city is for those who actually call it home. Neon in a sense is kinda like tourist resort in Latin America, white people go there to enjoy themselves, but unbeknownst to them, there's several guys just outside of the resort getting their limbs cut off and hearts ripped out of their chest and cannibalized.

>>712813272
>It's only boring if you are incapable of enjoying a game without anything engaging

>>712813614
not the game's problem you are incapable of being engaged by anything besides visual stimuli meant to engage retards

>>712813760
what am i supposed to be stimulated by?
dogshit writing or empty planets with nothing interesting or the flat characters or Todd Howard findoming me?

>>712808363
I got tricked once, to reinstall the game and see if they improved the npcs, but it's still the same abomination infested mess.

>>712813954
>zoomer words
fortnite and gacha.

>>712814096
stop dodging and tell what am i supposed to be appeased by in starfield

>>712809446
???
It has great multiplayer, decent exploration, working combat, story that is exactly like the novels it's inspired by. Crafting and surviving are good if you like that kind of thing.
Compared with starfield, release NMS and pretty much any other space-exploran & ground-craftan game this is vastly superior.
Only Empyrion plays in same field and it is turbojank compared to NMs

>>712814206
>zoomer
>esl
go play fortnite+gacha like all the rest of you turdies

>>712814538
just tell the merits of SF

>>712795030 (OP)
It's putrid, the nigger golem infed new Atlanta was the worst thing in gaming I have ever seen in my 40 years of life.

>>712814650
see >>712813760 >>712813272

Its a 2 year old flop abandoned by Bethesda. Let's move on.

>>712814650
He's dodging the question because Starfield has nothing that could be recommended to anyone that aren't wiling to experiment with it and find those merits for themselves. The game is absolutely not designed with a mainstream audience in mind that needs to be told what to enjoy or be given all the same things they enjoy about every other game.

>>712811726
>devs doing the best they can doesn't really matter
Wrong.. Gta IV suffered from similar engine problems and it became a classic anyways. If theres at least -one- person in a leadership position who truly gives a fuck about the project, it will inevitably hold value at the end. This game is what "The island of Dr. Morea" is to the movie industry. Nobody held it together, nobody really wanted to do it, but they had a lot of money to throw at it, so after they sunk a pile of cash in it just to start development, they were forced to see it trough.

>>712813614
Why is that melanated individual killing the pale blonde woman?

Is that some kind of social commentary?
Kinda bold move from Todd...

>>712815056
>abandoned by Bethesda
The latest patch was released last month, adn the second DLC is still coming.

>>712815791
Minor bug fixes and the promise of Dlc not the guarantee. Games dead.

>>712814801
>40 year old types like mentally challenged retard
grim

>>712795030 (OP)
People defend Fallout 3. Probably because they grew up with it. So, I guess it will happen with this too. Eventually.

>>712816072
I really don't think anybody will grow up with this game.

>>712811950
the sad part is this is completely true, so what does that say about Starfield?

>>712816072
Nah, this game was an unmitigated disaster. They didn't even bother putting content in it because they figured everybody would get all sorts of mods. The perk tree is probably the weakest I've seen outside of generic actionslop like witcher. Why do I need a perk to use a jetpack? Shouldn't leveling my jetpack skill just give me more maneuverability? Were they expecting people to make a boba fett mod day 1?

>>712816267
That Starfield isn't carried by the Star Wars IP...unless you mod it

>>712809603
I'm still pissed off about the powers. Why the fuck do we have magic powers on this fucking "exploration, realistic, nasa, science" space game??

>>712816624
see I did that and went all the way through the main quest and i still was disappointed.

>>712815791
Is it a story expansion? I was kinda hoping BGSM would be making TES6+Preproducing FO5 already.

>>712816162
I used to think the same about fallout 3. And you know how it is nowadays. Hell, people defend fallout 4, which is objectively worse than 3.

>>712795030 (OP)
Maybe in mumbai

>>712817045
I "grew up" with FO3 and think FO4 is better, you are just hopelessly out of the loop and dont know what people want out of bethesda games nowdays

Starfield is a bag of shit only enjoyed by faggots that suck nigger dicks regularly. It got mogged by teletubbies in space which was made by like 1 guy, Bethesda noticed this and abandoned it and now it's abandonware, how sad.

>>712816829
>main quest
How would masking everyone with a Star Wars look make the plot any better? You're supposed to use your roleplaying imagination with this kind of shit, lol.

>>712817003
What makes you think they aren't? Obviously Bethesda is big enough to have multiple teams working on different things, I mean they did just announce new content for Fallout 76 and TESO during the Xbox Showcase. And we at least know the Bethesda is still working on Starfield behind the scenes according to SteamDB.

>>712817179
Well, fallout 4's reception was atrocious. In 10 years, when the kids that got this stinking pile grow up, they will be coming on the internet to tell us that we are the old people who couldn't appreciate the genius of starfield.

>>712795030 (OP)
>Will Starfield be considered a cult classic in a few years?
it already is.

>>712817429
bgsm makes tes6+fo5

fo76 is maintained by bgsa and some outsourced studio forgot the name

>>712817514
it had pretty glowing reviews from what i remember and metacritic seems to confirm this

>>712817429
fallout 76's team has been absolutely gutted. We went from getting a 20 hour + campaign with new equipment every major update to getting fucking destiny 2 style number grinding raids with reskins of old equipment.

>>712817194
I bet /v/ would rather be watching Teletubbies than play Starfield too

>>712814305
>Crafting and surviving
yeah no it's shit, sorry

>>712817667
So did starfield: >>712807893

You are completely disconnected from the 10 year olds playing this shit, as I am.

>>712817793
I didn't deny starfield getting good reviews. Both games had good launches, you claimed fo4 didn't.

See:
>>712817514
>"Well, fallout 4's reception was atrocious."
What is this about?

>>712817045
Fallout 3 is awesome though. The piss filter was true kino.

They tried to force that kino with Starfield's grain filter, but the game starts off with a chink and a zesty nigger so it just was gay and cringe. Shit story aside, I think the game would have done a lot better if they made the ship actually travel instead of just loading screens everywhere. What a colossal fuck up.

>>712817880
I'm saying OP is correct in his take that people on 4chan shit on starfield now, like they did on fallout 4's release, but the people on 4chan will say it was amazing in 10 years, like what has already happened with fallout 4.

>>712817198
idk man, that other guy >>712816624 implied it would work

>>712817909
They should've had the ship wriggle through a crack while the game loads. People love hidden loading screens.

>>712818069
Ah my bad for misunderstanding then. I was assuming this was the typical contrarianism of "it wasn't actually well received since I didn't like it"

>>712817909
the gay nigga from outer space was a bro though

>>712817909
>Fallout 3
>piss filter
AI or medical issue?

>>712795030 (OP)
Nope. It's like the Star Wars sequels of video games. Will never ever be remembered in a good way

>>712797153
>No Man’s Sky, as much as I clown on its early days, actually turned it around
In the eyes of reddit maybe. In reality it's still dogshit.

>>712817767
Yeah, but is there even a good game with survival/crafting ?
I reckon Conan exiles with enslaving and torturing waifus but apart from that ...

>>712814813
>see [strawman] [strawman]

>>712795030 (OP)
No. Kill yourself immediately.

>>712825483
I have to agree with this anons request.

>>712795030 (OP)
>starfield thread
>200 replies
>does it have a cultural impact yes or no
hmmm

>>712795030 (OP)
This game was the final signal that the westacuck vidya industry really is dying.

>>712797287
>It will be remembered as
actually it will be forgotten

>>712795030 (OP)
The NG+ mode, if you can even call it that, objectively hurts the end product. They should've spent the development time on literally anything else. Should've also significantly limited the ability to fast travel.

The amount of butthurt over this game merely existing is crazy

>>712795030 (OP)
All Bethesda games suck ass
No challenge, bad AI
Boring slop

>>712795030 (OP)
Highly doubtful. It will probably be looked back on the same way we look back on Daikatana. Not postive, to say the least. This wasn't a good game, and it has many flaws that overshadow any endearing elements that could have saved it.

>>712827761
Probably bots in all fairness, we saw during the hack when 4chan went offline that significant amount of posts are not made by people. Those leaks really shined a light on some of the most common behaviors we see here on /v/.

>>712828364
Brownoids tortanic posting and gravedancing over the game will ensure it never becomes forgotten

>>712795912
NMS' transformation from mediocre nothing to what it is now is unheard of honestly
I cannot legitimately think of another game that achieved a comeback like it did, except possibly for FFXIV

>>712828839
It doesn't really when you consider the tragic storytelling behind it. Imagine that you're forced in an infinite loop of resurrection and have to relive your entire life again with little to no deviation from the fate that it had in store for you and everyone around you. I mean sure, you can redo "some" things differently now, but you can't stop some things that will inevitably happen, like the deaths of your loved ones. At some point when you've repeated all the events over and over again, a philosophical question arises in your mind, and that question is "why do I even bother?" and "why do I keep making this journey knowing that the end goal is always going to be the same?"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-Kq8c5IGRA

>>712807481
We keep it alive solely to make the brownoids that come from here to gravedance and doompost seethe endlessly

>>712830037
>amermiutts trying to equate bethslop to "whiteness"
Very kosher

>>712830037
Probably, there are many games and movies that would be entirely forgotten, never to be discussed again if threads like this were banned.

>>712795030 (OP)
A cult comfy game, a rediscovered patient gamer gem, yes probably.

The game has many issues, the main one is failing to teach its player base what it wants to be, the others are mostly about failing to be that. As the game look like the others two Bethesda main IPs peoples expected that but in space, which is kind of is but not really. I won't delve into all the issues the game has but if you disconnect from the discourse (and the internet in general) and play it at you own pace, autistically role playing like a main character space nomad, you have a decent escapism simulator.

When loading times will drop to zero on a potato machine I believe old folks and new gen alike would like it, yes.

>>712829993
And when you really think about it, a lot of you like to replay games from the beginning anyway. At some point when you've played a game like The Legend of Zelda multiple times, you'll probably ask yourselves "why do I keep playing these games"?

>>712829993
braindead fans like you are the reason why bethesda slop is in such decline

>>712830345
White people have a natural inclination towards curiosity and exploration
Browns do not because they lack the same spark that humans do, ergo they call Starfield slop, because they do not and will never 'get' it.

>>712830690
Why even bother with Bethesda games anymore then? I mean you people got Larian, CDPR, Bioware and FromSoftware to choose from if you want simple storytelling that doesn't require much critical thought.

>>712830989
There's nothing to explore in this procgen muttslop though. It's just a dogshit video game. It has nothing to do with whiteness because soulless subhumans made it.

>>712831168
I'm not going to. Starfield was their last shot for me. That said, It's still sad to see how this studio killed itself. I'm not happy that I can't play their games anymore.

>>712828839
I wholeheartedly agree with that sentiment.

The main idea to make NG+ diegetic is a great one that ought to be made some days, and I obviously don't put groundhog-day type mechanics à la Outer Wild in it as it's not technically NG+, but the integration is as poor as the philosophy behind it. They turned a golden principle into a turd, not even a golden one. Going into it (aka "The Unity") flatten the whole principle of your play-through, of your suspension of disbelief from playing a game. It's a camera reversal that show the fourth wall is empty and meaningless, akin to what I felt at the end of Morrowind (still their best game in my book), when I was guild master of every Vvardenfell syndicate but with no real power nor thing to do, showcasing shamelessly the liminality and sadness of a video game simulation when one reach its end, when no more narrative threads can be pull, forcing you to see the emptiness of your venture.

@712831168
I sincerely hope you're just pretending to be retarded. Either way, no (You) for (You).

>>712831308
>[ESL BROWNBABBLE]
Silence.

>>712831385
Then play their older games like everyone else has been doing. Plenty of activity still going into Skyrim

>>712831416
Whoops, messed up my quote >>712831168

>>712831573
Nah, once you've played or watched something a million times it becomes a chore to consume. I'm just done with Bethseda. All of it.

Starfield should have been Skyrim in space. Somehow it turned out considerably worse than Skyrim, and even Oblivion, which is a 20 year old game. Bethesda has been completely Ship of Theseus'd now, commandeered by radical homosexuals and poos while the actual talent is gone.

>>712831793
Ah well, what can you do? Everyone has their own approach to these games at the end of the day

>>712817728
Teletubbies:
>ongoing plot threads
>extensive cast of memorable characters (vacuum, baby sun)
>beautiful sweeping vistas and complex sci-fi concepts (tubby custard machine)
Your move, Starfield.

>>712834219
Teletubbies has stood the test of time. It's so good in fact that children love to watch it again, again again, and again, again, again.

Can't say the same for Starfield though.

>>712816810
Bethesda went all in on muh realism then realized they're game is boring asf and needs something else. I heard the space shouts and perk tree is not worth the hassle either. Like if there's space shouts why not start adding aliens or something else creative?

>>712808943
>Honestly Fallout 4 was terribly designed too. Bethesda has no fucking clue how to make games anymore

Calling Fallout 4 a terribly designed game is an exaggeration. Yes, it does have its flaws (such as the story, factions, and lack of RPG elements), but it also does some things really well, like exploration, combat, characters.

Starfield on the other hand is a terribly designed game. Way too many loading screens, main gameplay loop doesn't work at all.

>>712830989
Based.

Starfield haters are a very specific kind of reddit fedora tipping, ebonics slinging modern teen who thinks it's cool to disrespect the culture your forefathers gave you.

Or they are browns. Call it.

>>712795030 (OP)
Did they fix the problem where joining the Crimson Fleet eliminates too many combat encounters?