Okay did I fucking miss something but was it ever explained who the fuck the Writers are, why they're called that, and what the fuck did Maelle do that apparently caused verso to die, why is it "her" fault

My what lovely feet

>>712795416 (OP)
SNIIIIIIFFFFFFF
Ooh my days

Spoiler that shit you waste of oxygen

>>712795532
Why would you ever go on /v/ when you're currently playing a new game? I avoided it until I finished the game why couldn't you? Have some self control.

we'll find out in the sequel

Neither ending really seems to make much sense if you do all the extra stuff either.

>>712795703
They didn't even really sequel bait, they just name dropped something out of nowhere and it was never brought up again

>>712795416 (OP)
>game about painters with magical abilities to bend reality with magic paint
>new faction called writers are mentioned as sequel bait
>WHAT KIND OF ABILITIES DO THE WRITERS HAVE
I wonder anon... I really, truly wonder...

>>712795416 (OP)
>>712795724
>perfectly clean feet
BOOOOOOOOO

>>712795762
well that's not sequel bait, it's just something we don't know about that world and they can expand on. It doesn't really matter who they are for this current story

>>712795763
>>712795805
It just seems annoying to play 40+ hours just to have the whole family story shoved in your face and one of the big details is it being alecia's fault and it never ever gets more context

>>712795878
you don't need to know everything outside the canvas story really, what they gave us is enough, idk what you want me to tell you.

>>712795926
Tell me everything's gonna be okay

>>712796031
It'll all be okay canonically Verso destroyed the canvas so it's all good

>>712796098
No I just mean life in general

>>712795416 (OP)
>>712795724
those look almost too real holy fuck

can we see toes?

>>712795805
This. They're really not important and have next to nothing to do with anything in the game. It bewilders me that people are clamouring for some sequel based on them when we know their name and literally nothing else.

>>712796202
Well I got my shit together so I'm sure it'll all work out of you or it won't which means you shouldn't worry either way because it'll either happen or won't and adding stress doesn't accomplish anything

>>712795416 (OP)
No they didn't and some suspect that writers = writers of the game and it's just them being lazy because it isn't really important.

>>712796223
I'm not the artist sorry anon, use your imagination or google

>>712796237
But I'm the anon asking and I don't want a sequel. I'm fine with this being the only game not everything needs a fucking sequel but it just bugs the fuck out of me for something that's apparently major contextually is mentioned once and never fucking brought up again

>>712795416 (OP)
I can't enjoy feet if they aren't in anime style

>>712796461
perfection

Faggot OP is just trying to bait more coomer pics instead of actual discussion. I know you haven't played the game you absolute retarded nigger bc the game literally tells you the feud between Artists and Writers has been going on since their grandparents' days and Alicia was caught in the house fire orchestrated by the Writers.

It wasn't her fault, she's just a self loathing bitch. Also, whenever Clea blames Alicia for Verso's death she's just grieving, it's her retarded way of coping by directing her anger at someone. If you played the game and read the fucking journals and notes instead of downloading daz3d shitty blender renders from rule34 you would've noticed, you fucking retarded imbecile coombrain pigskin nigger.

>>712797229
I literally just finished it today, she says it's her fault right in front of Renoir and he doesn't correct her or anything. The pics I use are to catch attention and get replies which worked so fuck off nigger

>>712795416 (OP)
I felt the same until I started my 2nd playthrough and almost immediately you start seeing things in the story with Maelles nightmares that start putting things in context and connecting the dots with her and Verso. I also finished the game before encountering Simon and Clea in the painted world so I missed out completely on anything that reveals. A 2nd playthough is almost mandatory unless you wrote notes and found every bit of story content the first time. Plus it's a chance to change party members and try different builds.

>>712795416 (OP)
Could you repeat the question? I wasn't listening...

>>712795416 (OP)
They are the main antagonists for the sequel, this entire game is just a prologue/setup for the true game and actual real story which is why they did the LE NOTHING MATTERED IT WAS ALL LE PAINT HON HON HON PARIS BAGUETTE thing.

>>712796098
>canonically Verso destroyed the canvas
Why are ALL Versofags such liers

>>712797983
GOD DAMN

>>712795416 (OP)
>who the fuck the Writers are,
They're the game devs.

>>712797412
Because Renoir is an asshole with an empathy of a potted plant. I don't blame Alicia for wanting to stay in the canvas forever, if your family are the Dessendres.

>>712798181
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zu_eDxflkMc

What happens in Maelle's ending? Everyone lives happily ever after in le tableau until Alicia gets brain rot and Renoir has to enter again to actually save her? Seems weird when a rival faction of gods/demigods are out to get your whole family. I was gonna fight the last boss again but I am stuck on the Endless tower, trial 10 stage 2. Couldnt beat Simon either. Fucker is Nameless King meets Promised Consort Radahn.

>>712797997
It felt more like an homage to old school jrpgs where you end up killing god. It's just kind of a french way of looking at things. What makes Lumiere less real than real life? We all have a creator, wether is be painters, writers, god, buddha or chaos. Seemed like a real french way of looking at life to me

>>712798242
If you genuinely think Renoir was in the wrong for wanting to save his wife and daughter from dying, *never* be a parent; he's unironically the most justified person in the game.

>>712798572
Escapism bad. That's what going on. Don't think.too hard about it.

>>712798572
>Everyone lives happily ever after in le tableau

No. Everyone still died at the end of Act 2. The "people" she brought back are essentially soulless meat puppets. Noco's entire character exists to demonstrate just that.

>>712795416 (OP)
>who the fuck the Writers are
Anything from a rival guild to a meta reference to the game's actual writers. They leave it vague so the game doesn't steer to far from the primary issue, which is Aline and Alicia's crack addiction, and to keep things open for a sequel or spinoff should they ever get around to one.
>what the fuck did Maelle do that apparently caused Verso to die
>why is it "her" fault
"Trusted the writers". What the exact deal was is unknown, but it leads to the fire that kills Verso after he saves her. As for why she contacted them in the first place there are hints that she herself has a stronger connection to writing than painting or music like the rest of the family.

The canvas manor shows what each of the Dessendre children are interested in. Verso's room has a large piano, trains, gestrals, and an Esquie doll.
Clea's room has paintings and sculptures of nevrons.
Alicia's room is full of books and has a typewriter. Clea also says she tended to hole up in her room and read books instead of hang out with Verso and herself.

>>712798843
His intentions and his methods are two different things. I am not questioning that he wants to help, but in his autism he's making things worse and more difficult for everyone.

>>712798572
Maelle basically becomes a god in her own little world and is creepily manipulative and controlling the world like puppets. Everyone's brought back to life and it's all very eerie

So, how will destroying the canvas quench Clea's murderous rage towards the writers, anyway? Because that's her way of coping and the game makes a bold statement that destroying the canvas fixes everything.

>>712795416 (OP)
Lune!

>>712799158
Clea at war with the writers and would very much like Renoir's help, but he's too busy trying to get Aline out of the canvas. Clea doesn't give a shit about Aline, but is assisting Renoir with kicking her out of the canvas and destroying it so that Renoir can shift his focus back to the writers.

>>712798953
I get ya. Had to find the act 2 ending on youtube to refresh my memory a little. Felt like that was later the storyline than I could remember. Sounds about right. Only weird thing is, when Gestrals are reborn they dont really remember their past lives much but everyone Maelle painted back into existence seems to remember quite clearly what they are doing. I guess it doesn't have to be 1:1 though. Totaly felt like act 2 was the stretch from Gestral Village to lampmaster fight when I think back. Epilogue really stretched on. My favourite part of the game was the post-game dungeon leading up to and including the Clea fight.

>>712799158
>So, how will destroying the canvas quench Clea's murderous rage towards the writers, anyway?
Clea doesn't really care about the canvas, she just wants Aline and Renoir out of it to help her deal with the family affairs and the Writers.

>>712799291
Does Clea think that throwing this dysfunctional and traumatized family into her own self-destructive war against the writers such a good idea?
How is this family supposed to heal itself, when they still only think about themselves?

>>712799423
Renoir and Clea are pretty much the only sensible surviving members of the family, as both of them understand the canvas is like a drug and a waste of time. It's why Clea prefers his help and doesn't much care about what Aline does.

Feet made for milking black cocks

>>712795416 (OP)
>>712795724
>>712796461
>>712797983

>>712795416 (OP)
Zanzibarte tells you all that, you didn't talk to him?

>>712799542
I wouldn't call neither Renoir nor Clea sensible. That's the point of the game.
Clea is a cold bitch that has no empathy for everyone and everything and treats her family like tools and Renoir thinks his way of grieving is the best one and is trying to speedrun everyone to grieve "his way".

>>712799542
>and a waste of time
No, the both enjoy painting and creating new worlds, but they know it's dangerous to get lost in it.

>>712799708
>Clea is a cold bitch that has no empathy for everyone and everything and treats her family like tools
Someone hasn't beaten the endless tower.

>>712795669
He's obviously talking about that nasty footfag pic.

>>712799701
It's no wonder "show, don't tell" is a dying art.
Everyone needs everything spelled out for them.

>>712799280
more legs and feet pls

>>712799708
She's a hard-ass because she's shouldering the entire family's responsibilities. Hence Renoir's axon representation of her was the Hauler.

>>712799708
>Clea is a cold bitch that has no empathy
That's not true, she does care for Alicia as you can see in the Endless Tower. She comes off as cold and uncaring because she is dealing alone with the Writers and protecting her family while her parents are being retarded.

>>712800256
Just because they arguably care for one another doesn't mean their methods to show this care are good. The entire family is incapable of talking to one another and always think that they are the ones in the right and the rest are wrong.

>>712800838
>The entire family is incapable of talking to one another and always think that they are the ones in the right and the rest are wrong.
Aline is the only one who is just plain wrong. Both Renoir and Clea are trying to fix things.

>>712800946
t. Renoir

>>712798769
interesting way to put it, idk about being french but it is a twist on the KILL god JRPG trope
In this story though, god is already dead, and his splinter wants to commit seppuku because he is tired and he believes his god family will be better off moving on. I wonder how many of those who finished the game got that.

>>712795416 (OP)
Never really stated but you can assume they're a similar guild to painters but can create worlds using writing instead.
Maelle/Alicia was in contact with them for some unstated reason and they attacked their manor which lead to Verso dying protecting her. You can also notice that Alicia doesn't really give a fuck about painting since she knows almost nothing about it but has a typewriter in her room, it could be she was interested in joining them.

Curator = real life Renoir, right?
and the Renoir you fight in A1 and A2 is pRenoir by Alina, who wants to preserve the world as it is, right?

>>712801462
Correct. Or more simply, the painted Renoir always has a facial scar and black clothing.

>>712800047
What she did to painted Clea and Simon is just straight up evil and asking painted Verso to look out for Maelle afterwards is just shameless.

>>712802036
She has a right to be angry against Aline for what she did to her and Verso's canvas.

>>712802036
>and treats her family like tools
She specifically does not see painted individuals nor the mirror images of her family as people. They're Aline's creations, not what she created with the real Verso.
She's concerned about her family, most specifically Alicia, in her own blunt way.

>>712795416 (OP)
You vaguely get mentions that the Writers tricked Alicia into trusting them and that they used her to cause the fire that killed Verso and maimed her in some way. Whether Alicia started the fire or they used her to get access to the mansion to set the fire on their own is never specified, but that's about all you get from the game's story. And honestly, nothing more is really needed until a sequel.

>>712802446
And then the sequel reveals that it was all just a midunderstanding and Alicia just mishandled a magical book she recieved from her pen buddy. And Writers are about as confused as anyone as to why her older sister is now killing them for no reason.

>>712800047
my only major problem with act 3 is that stuff like this is in optional areas and if you try and do them, you'll be too overpowered for the end of the main game, but they provide a lot of context for the choice at the end of the game. I wish they'd done act 3 so that the reacher was mandatory and that dialogue with clea was reworked to somehow come in during the main story

>>712795416 (OP)
writers won

>>712798953
>No. Everyone still died at the end of Act 2. The "people" she brought back are essentially soulless meat puppets
Lying nigger or head cannon? She has full control over chroma and can return everyone as they were.

>>712803297
except for acts 1 and 2. great writers would find a way to make those acts give good exposition and have enjoyable stories in of themselves (they tried this with the "stopping the gommage angle, it didn't work imo). It was a really good effort though and I think act 3 kind of makes up for it.

>>712802264
Maybe, but she doesn't have any right to take it out on her creations especially in such a cruel way.

Why are Lunefags all such subhumans?

>>712803348
doesnt she say the older chroma is impure or someshit after ressing lune and sciel and thats why she makes a ghost army out of old expeditioners instead of bringing them fully back

>>712806167
She says that about older expeditioners, because they were lying there for years and decades. When chroma is fresh and she can control it, she can bring people back.

>>712805589
Footfags = subhumans. Maelle posters are way better

>>712806398
coulda brought back gustave and the rest of 33 then for the fight

instead she waits until the game ends to bring him back and also sciels husband whos been dead for a while

something isnt right here

>Keep the Canvas alive
>But kick out any delusional Painters until they hate the Canvas
There. Best ending. It's not too hard, is it?

>>712806494
I would eat this girl's tight fresh pussy 24/7 until we both gommaged

>>712795416 (OP)
>>712795763
I like to imagine they're a bunch of Alan Wakes, neuroses and all.

>>712806651
She could only bring Lune and Sciel, because she only had control over their chroma, Renoire controlled all the rest. Maelle had to grab their chroma from the place they were gommaged to use it. She couldn't bring anyone else.

>>712806651
She literally explains that she cannot just bring back Gustave, because at this point Renoir controls all the mana/chroma.
She only managed to bring back Lune and Sciel before Renoir snatched all the chroma for himself. And only because they were right under her nose.
And once Renoir is out, she can bring back Gustave with no issue.

>>712806762
>>712806871
alright, it starts to make sense to me

fuck this shit im going back to cod

>>712795416 (OP)
I am just now finishing act 2. I want to ask something and then i'll leave the thread. Is there any way to somehow stop Renoir from using that fucking vanish garbage? I don't understand it. Is it a gradiant parry? Is it a normal parry? I can't revive the person vanished i can't do anything to it and it brings my blood to a boil to be able to do the whole fight but have to deal with this.

>>712807557
gradient parry, he does a fakeout swing first and you should be able to revive using maelle's level 2 gradient attack

>>712799614
Based.

>>712807557
bro don't go inside threads until you start at a camp in act 3

>>712797983
Yes? No? Maybe...

>>712799614
based. I love small feet.

>>712807658
you now realize the vanish attack is the Paintress unpainting you
and Alicia's gradient revive is her repainting allies, thus it's the only skill that works against the vanish attack

>>712796515
The feud is not major, but it has a bit of purpose. First, it makes the fire / Verso's death not an accident. Second, it gives Clea something to do instead of being in the Canvas like everyone else. Nothing else about it matters in the context of E33.

Its funny seeing people play and have no idea what's going on even after Clea explains everything. Her dialogue was obviously meant as exposition, I thought at this point it was incredibly easy to follow but I see faggots play and still after the explanation "huh?! What?! what's that mean? I don't get it"

>>712808230
what did you think about holding off on any relevant exposition until the end of act 2/start of 3?

>>712808575
Felt good for me because I pieced most all of it together prior to the reveal. Made me think the people who didn't get it even with Clea's exposition drop are retarded.

>>712808975
how did you piece it together pre-reveal? what were the clues that lead you to it?
I realized that:
>Maelle and pAlicia were somehow connected and seem to be different versions of each other
>Verso knows everything and is hiding huge secrets from the party
>there is some unknown family business between Renoir, Verso, Alicia, the mother
>the world is very dreamlike and likely not real
but I had no idea how those hunches connect with each other and I had limited understanding of what the nature of the world is, and it's relation to Verso, Maelle, Renoir and the Paintress.

>>712795416 (OP)
>was it ever explained who the fuck the Writers are, why they're called that
Are people stupid?

>>712798953
>The "people" she brought back are essentially soulless meat puppets
That's retarded. Why would you make that up? You see Lune and Sciel being brought back. You can talk with them. You know that they have their complete memories, even of stuff that Maelle didn't know about.

>>712799101
>manipulative and controlling the world like puppets
There was not a single instance of mind control before the Maelle ending. There wasn't one after.
The Paintress and Renoir couldn't just control the people who were attacking them.

>>712810319
>Are people stupid?
This is a generation raised on Marvel slop. If a joke isn't explained they don't understand they have to laugh.

>>712808230
Yeah, thats what I noticed too. Clea is absolute exposition par excellence. "Our parents are quite the stubborn pair. She has him imprisoned at the bottom of the monolith and he has her at the top. Its a stalemate." is literally the first words she utters out of many expositions that follow.