Its 100% pure fucking kino
Apologize NOW

The gameplay is so good like the best of both worlds with mgs2 and mgs3

>Its 100% pure fucking movie
yeah

>>712802307 (OP)
>dogshit powerpointslop
>mgs4
>gameplay
Slit your throat subhuman

>>712802307 (OP)
The gameplay was the best in the series. Too bad there are only two acts of actual gameplay (2.5 if you count the tailing mission in act 3) and the rest is cutscenes and shitty set pieces.

>>712802307 (OP)
the gameplay is great. there's just barely any of it.

>>712802307 (OP)
That switch 2 box is looking fire

>>712802307 (OP)
> gameplay is so good
You mean what little player gets?

>>712802307 (OP)
MGS4 is shit, even Kojima disowned it

>>712802528
>create levels bigger and more complex than before
>place the objective in a spot that is easily accessed in a straight path, discouraging players from actually experiencing most of the levels
>create intricate intricate interactions between the player and ai and expand the player's move set even further to allow more creative stealth
>add in an auto camo so the player just has to sit still for a couple seconds to avoid being spotted the rest of the level, trivializing stealth
Why do people praise Kojima so much?

>>712802695
Well I enjoyed it, and I don't care how Kojima feels; it's not about him.

>>712802695
Kojima made 4, PW, and 5. These were all the worst in the series. Kojima ball lickers need to stop coping. Three good games (MGS 1-3) should be enough, but they just can't let sleeping dogs lie and have to defend Kojima at every turn.

>>712802307 (OP)
plays nothing 2, it's a perfected mgs3
>act 3
turn off the game console jack

>>712803135
3 wasn't good, 5 was. but /v/edditors never played these games and only parrot popular opinions

>>712802307 (OP)
>the game is
dog shit
>2 hour cutscenes
wtf
>game
there is not much game there
>but da poop

>>712802876
no kojima made and programmed all the games on his own

>>712803406
he also did mocap himself and kissed himself and pretended to be Meryl

>>712803497
he did mocap quiet's helicopter animations

>>712803310
> 3 wasn't good
Any explanation? It's meant to be prequel
Except numbering. George Lucas also did that shit

>>712803560
Kojima understands women, they want them all to be quiet.

>>712802307 (OP)
>play for 20 minutes
>a whole hour of cutscenes
>play for 5 minutes
>another hour of cutscenes
>play for 15 minutes
>another hour of cutscenes
>play for 20 minutes
>a wholeass hour of cutscenes
>final boss
>>play for 20 minutes
>four fucking hours of cutscenes
>credits roll
>the movie still keeps fucking going

>>712803310
>far cry 2
>but tps
>good
Neck yourself

>>712803653
>credits roll
>did you rike it?
>another 1 hour movie
>look who we got here, soridus snek and a disabled retard in a wheelchair
>let's kill the disabled retarded in the wheelchair
>/applause

>>712803310
t. call of gear enjoyer
>Omataseshimashita

>>712803616
Nta but i dont like 3 nearly as much as 2 or 4
Its way too easy to just go rambo mode and the story kinda sucks

>>712802307 (OP)
>the gameplay is so good
Yeah shame there's only about 5 hours of it.

>>712802307 (OP)
...gameplay?

>>712803616
flawed survival mechanics that end up being menu fuckery and don't interact with real time action.
linear "go north" level design with no backtracking or verticality (except grozniygrad, 1/4 of the game).
dogshit soulless story, boring characters, no real "theme" or meaning. generic "war is bad" trash.
basically everything that was wrong with mgs4 but "it came out when i was 12 so it's le masterpiece".
>>712803732
>metal gear survive
>but on ps2
>good
:^)

>>712803857
>he hasn't played on Extreme

>>712803857
>whines about rambo mode in 3
>while liking 4 that literally has tons of guns, typical 7th gen tps controls, etc
Explain

>>712803983
>implying survive is le bad
survive is actually great, way better than the dog turd that is called 24-MGS5.

>>712803983
>>metal gear survive
>openworld
>mgs3
>corridor
Profound mental retardation
Hope you will get skinned alive, subhuman retard

>>712804039
+ you can get guns anywhere you want, plus ammo
>sounds legit

>>712804057
It does have better survival mechanics that 3 but still boils down to a nu-fun work simulator, because it was a prototype for death stranding, THE work simulator

>>712803992
it might be worth a shot but i dont really feel like the effort
>>712804039
the radar in mgs4 is good enough that sneaking is easier but its not as easy as mgs1 and 2

>>712804110
>mgs3
>because it was a prototype for death stranding,
Room temp iq moment

>>712804101
yes, this is how a ps2 survive would work. mgs3 was planned to have an open level design initially but ps2 was too weak for that.

>>712804110
>nu-fun
>i believe whatever yt claim (lie) about gaem
>post man simulator is survive
no, survive actually has good gameplay and bosses

>>712804181
>it was le planned to have some shit
>therefore these games are the same thing
Slit your throat

>>712804110
>because it was a prototype for death stranding
Kojima didn't work on survive retard

>>712804184
>bosses
marvel's venom snake?
or that giant crystal penis?
sorry, didn't play the co-op, i have no frens and the resource grind is too much

>>712804220
>can't perceive breakfast

>>712804270
>I haven't played Metal Gear Survive
it shows

>>712804314
>fart
The absolute state

>>712802307 (OP)
it's unironically the best in the series and anyone who says otherwise is just a jealous pcfag or tendie that cant have it

it was actually really epic, they should have ended mgs here

>>712805580
what about peacewalker and 5 though i havent played them yet

>>712807675
=w=

>>712802307 (OP)
It is the epitome of "small world" writing. Every single plot thread tied up because everyone knows and was friends with everyone else, and then boiled down to "Nanomachines," "Computers are scary (ignore better AI bad stories!)" and "Oh jesus, I am cumming to the Boss again!"

Sure, everything that has nothing to do with Boss wank, nanomachine retardation, and a pointless resurrection of BB, was pretty good for the movie. And all 2 hours of actual game play are awesome. Too bad the good stuff is such a small part of the actual game.

>>712802307 (OP)
>kino
why is it that only retards use this word as an adjective?

Kojima was on to something with that one character in MGS2 having armpit stubble. he truly is a genius. however i think he made a mistake not expanding on that concept in MGS4. I think that the female soldiers should all have had armpit cutouts where there was an area without fabric to show them off. I also think he should have made a list of 20 or so armpit hair styles and made it so every female soldier spawns with a randomized one. He had access to the technology with PS3s advanced hardware. i also think that he should have made some gear for Snake to use where he could detect the path that those guards had taken that operates on detecting armpit sweat clouds in the air. it would have looked like night vision. the controller would vibrate more frequently the closer you get.

>>712808007
The game is half cutscene and half gameplay, stop being disingenuous.

>>712808398
only for 2 acts, then it's all cutscenes with occasional gimmick thrown in

>>712808398
>half/half
let's fact check this

https://inv.nadeko.net/watch?v=zr-pL2Yz6Nw
9 hours of shitty slop movie, not even a fun one

https://inv.nadeko.net/watch?v=tRhHIaF7iNo
1.5 hours of "gameplay"

>>712803310
>3 wasn't good
the dumbest fucking nigger opinion of the year

>>712802456
There is more gameplay in it than in MGS1 and 2

>>712808918
tell me why it's good, goy

>>712802307 (OP)
>apologize for movie
no, I don't think I will

>>712802307 (OP)
I wish the whole game were like the first chapter

>le movie game
Yeah, Kojima wanted a Call of Duty clone so the multiplayer is the main part of the game. That's why there are so many guns, even the story has you team up with rebels and the whole SOP system. MGO forever.

>>712811956
i liked the second chapter more

>>712802307 (OP)
>The gameplay is so good like the best of both worlds with mgs2 and mgs3
Yes all 4 hours of it you get in this 12 hour game kek
I don't think anyone denies that at the time it had the peak MGS gameplay. The problem is by the time you fight Octopus you've already seen everything good it has to offer.

it's been over for kojima for a while now, from worshipping baphomet and adding troons to his contacts, it's only gonna get worse. my biggest hope is he doesn't come out as gay and wreck his entire legacy

>>712802307 (OP)
Apologize? I always liked it.

What gameplay? Most of the """"game"""" is cutscenes

I've been replaying the games while waiting for Delta but have never played 4 since I didn't own a PS3 at the time. Would it be better to emulate it or should I get the digital download from the PS store?

>>712814792
why not get the disc its cheap
i got mine for 300 yen in bookoff

>>712813252
>and wreck his entire legacy
he'll die tomorrow

>>712814934
I can do that too, I was more just wondering which would play better. A lot of PS3 games have really rough framerates but some still can't be emulated very well

>>712815138
depends on your rig, honestly
iirc emulation is good, no graphical issues or nothing

>>712803616
>Except numbering.
People dick ride Kojima too much in my opinion but this one probably isn't on him. There's a fairly credible rumor that he wanted to rip out the Metal Gear Solid 3 clunky name (where is the Solid? In his balls?) but Konami told him to not be retarded and that they needed the name ID of it being the new MGS numbered title. He cucked out to this by claiming that the 'Solid' has to do with the series becoming 3D.

>>712803653
>play for 5 minutes
>another hour of cutscenes
you are literally describing MGS 3

>>712804057
>Metal Gear Survive isn't trash
>The progenitor of Anti-SOVL gas isn't trash
Neck yourself, faggot.

>>712805363
>a jealous pcfag
You can play it on PC with better graphics and the online works as on a modded PS3, retard. The game just lacks gameplay which would be less of a sin if it didn't burn budget on so much cutscenes.

>>712815843
>I repeat what lying youtubers told me
>it's trash
>hurr durr have to use stick the whole time
>hurr durr

>>712815843
>game about nanomachine dust that turns everyone into zombies
>anti-sovl gas
makes sense honestly

>>712802307 (OP)
The gameplay is solid, too bad there's like 90 minutes of it. Act 3 is nothing but a trailing mission then a scripted rail shooter, and act 5 is one single boat of sneak gameplay before 8 hours of cutscenes and some boss fights

>>712815950
>Run to his practiced talking points without engaging with what I actually fucking said
>"Hurr Durr you're just parroting jewtubers!"
I specifically was talking about the shitty look of the game you massive fucking faggot, go try and rewrite history with someone else. Nobody gives a fuck you like some soulless Konami shit.

>>712816335
>Nobody gives a fuck you like some soulless Konami shit.

>>712802307 (OP)
Solid snake, flaccid snake, liquid cum.. lol who wrote this game.

>>712816768
VOICE OF GOD
HIDEO KOJIMA

>>712803632
>from the perverted and twisted minds of Hideo Kojima and Jordan Peele (Academy Award winner and director of the hit film Get Out), respectively.

>>712816335
>MGS5 looks like ass
yes, that's the fault of MGS5 and Kojimbo

>>712802307 (OP)

>Full 17 years since it released

Damn, i remember the hype for this back in the day. Really loved MGO2 too.

>>712817250
>"Kojima broke into Konami and made them take the most bland landscape inherently from MGS5 and make it an order of magnitude more bland instead of making their own more interesting looking area for their soulless cash-in"
I'm not even surprised that the type of faggot to come on in the middle of the day and defend trash like Survive are completely retarded. Like a match made in hell.

Reminder: MGS5 is a PS3 game, MG Survive ditched that platform and still looks much worse.

>>712817670
>I don't understand that Survive literally takes the BLAND and EMPTY MGS5 maps
lmao

Kojima is a hack.

>>712802528
act 3 was horrible the rest were fun

OP is right, but MGO is even better

>>712817867
>Can't read
>Stans for Survive
Checks out. If you read what I actually said instead of being a loud retard (in your defense, this is pretty on brand for you) you would know that you are actually proving my point.

With MGS5 you have a game constrained by PS3 which had its most bland area being a desert still look relatively good for the year it released with interesting vistas. With Survive you have a team that looked around and said: "You know that PS3 game actually competent devs made a few years ago? Let's go back to the most bland and uninteresting looking areas of that game, make it even more brown and uninteresting looking then drown the area in anti-sovl gas so it looks even worse despite us being an entire console generation ahead and still somehow perform fucking terribly."

If you think that counts as a point for the hacks that shat out Survive then you are genuinely too retarded to waste time speaking to.

>>712802843
OctoCamo is an objective improvement and if you think otherwise you're a retard. It replaces tedious pause menu with actual gameplay tradeoffs (having to wait for your camo index to rise)

>>712804039
3 gives you such a huge healthbar that you can Rambo your way much more easily. Or rather CQC + tank your way through

MGS4 on the other hand is just too nice with the suppressors, M14 breaks the fucking game.

>>712808787
You literally picked an optimized speedrun you disingenuous faggot
You're not getting that time without spending dozens or maybe hundreds of hours in the lab

>>712818927
>MGS5 looks incredible
bland and empty and shit
>Survive looks le bad
literally the same, but with additional atmosphere

>>712802456
All of the gameplay can be found in MGO2, arguably the best shooter of the 7th gen.

>>712819257
>100s of hours
lol
i remember this piece of shit.
going
>finally some actual game
and then 2 minutes later it's watching for shitty cutscenes
and this goes from bad to worse
in the end it's like 3 hours of cutscene vs. one copy+paste boss fight which is stupid as fuck

>>712819559
You don't get 1h30 on MGS4 without spending 50-100 hours at least optimizing your runs and finding strats, retard.

MGS4 is short. It has actually a decent amount content but underused. Most players will only get to sneak for around 4-5 hours and spend 2-3 hours in shooting setpieces and such. You can get more meat if you replay it too, but still a shame. It's not, however, a fucking 1h30 game. It also has more gameplay than MGS1, but people dont notice because MGS1 has shit gameplay.

>>712802307 (OP)
>Gameplay

>>712819790
>MGS4 is short
I accept your concession.
>decent amount of content
no, it doesn't.
almost no optional codec conversations, it's all sterile and bad
>most players will
wait literally 9 hours of movie
>but they will totally shoot around for 3 hours in this bland shooter with terrible controls

2nd collection when? I don't care how shit it supposedly is, I just have to experience it. I've been a metal gear fan since the ps1 and I haven't played the epilogue ffs.

>>712803632
Based.

>>712820727
>I don't care when I get broken slop again
>I refuse to buy it on PS3 for $2 or simply watch it on youtube (it is basically a movie)

>>712803732
>doesn't like far cry 2 either
lol look at this bitch nigga

>>712802307 (OP)
The only thing that MGS4 did better than 2 and 3 is its version of Metal Gear Online which was pretty fun even with the Konami ID shit.

Does it have collectibles like the Dog Tags in 2 or the Kerotan and Markhor ranks in 3? No.

Does it have boss rush like 2 and 3? No.

Does it have side modes like Snake Tales in 2 or Snake vs Monkey in 3? No.

I am not saying MGS4 is bad. Its still one of the better (well, only) PS3 games. But its very underwhelming compared to 2 & 3.

>>712820978
but it has 10 minute installations per chapter because PS3 is shit and Kojima is retarded

>>712821373
wait, snek
we are on Snoy Gaystation 3 now
No need to swap discs once per game.
Now relax and wait for another mandatory installation to finish.
and remember to get a 2nd job to be able to afford a Piss3.

I think the stealth portion where you follow the contact is bugged in my game, I've tried hundreds of times over the years and I can never get through it. Beaten every other MGS game except for 4

>>712802307 (OP)
Too bad it becomes walking simulator after what act 2?

>>712820458
You are retarded and dishonest on purpose, that much is obvious

>>712820894
I thought it was obvious in my post that I never had a ps3. would be cool to play it on my series S with better performance and fast loading.

>>712802307 (OP)

Any game that has a 40 minute long cutscene in it is automatically trash regardless of other considerations.

>>712802418
yeah, fuck kojima this fucking hack.
this game could be easy the best in the entire series,kojima should make movies then games insted,he is nothing without the people around him.

>>712821741
it's correct, you dick is small and MGS4 has no content

>>712821747
a PS3 can be bought for like 100 bucks and has quite a few exclusives
>muh faster loading
>and tons of additional bugs
>and with worse controls
why

MGS1~4 were always the really good ones.
PW, GZ ans MGSV were the just fun ones

>>712822159
MGS2+3 were always the really good ones
MGS1 is slop, MGS4 is slop
and the others are trash

>>712802307 (OP)
gameplay is good for sure, but Kojima is still a shitty writer

Play MGO2 btw

>>712822363
shit tier game
>look at me i'm invisible
>headshot headshot headshot
what a great idea to put auto-aim into an online shooter

>>712822008
if it comes out, the game is probably gonna be 20 bucks on sale.

>>712822484
Auto aim is shit, dumbass.

>>712822864
no, it's going to be $80
and MGS5 slop will be included as well as this crap

>>712823067
exactly, that's why it doesn't belong in online multiplayer slop

>>712823225
It's not achieving anything, auto aim loses to manual aim every single time. It's useless. If you bitch about auto aim then you haven't played the game

>>712823295
>auto aim loses to manual aim every single time
lmao
i remember "playing" MGO and it literally went "headshot headshot headshot headshot headshot". It felt like someone was cheating, then I figured there is auto-aim slop.

>>712823164
they are also sold separately

>>712823547
Auto aim physically cannot headshot, retard kun. If you get headshot, it's manual. That's why auto aim gets wrecked by manual aim, it's short range and takes like 3 seconds to kill vs the 1s it takes for a decent player to HS you

>>712823630
pretty sure it was a combination of auto-aim and slightly adjusting right afterwards to get these instant headshots
similar to Wokestar's GTA 4

otherwise it would be literally impossible to aim like that this fast using a slop controller

MGS2 > MGS1 > MGS3 > Death Stranding > MGS4 > MGSPW > MGSV

>>712823851
Are you baiting me?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iaz3OGsgXJg

>>712824116
>you need a guide to aim
lol

>>712824116
>literally shows that auto-aim is at work
>no, no, this isn't auto-aim
meds

>>712824508
Timestamp. Now.

>>712824596
>I can't be bothered to watch the video that I just linked to
are you now pretending to be retarded?
he literally says that you just need to shoot in the general direction and it wil give you headshots
literally spray+pray and the AUTO-AIM gives out headshots, even when you didn't really aim at all
game is trash
thanks for proof

>>712824727
That's not auto aim retard
There's a world of difference between a good and a bad player because aim is very finicky

>>712824970
>it's not auto-aim when you pray and spray and get head-shots at random, despite not actually aiming at all, and also not even getting cross hairs over the head

>>712824970
>the controls are shit
>abuse the BS auto-aim
>don't actually aim, because aiming is shit
>when auto-aim gave me a head shot, that's me aiming totally
got it

>>712825070
>>712825161
>pray and spray and get head-shots at random
That's literally the opposite of how any good player plays, retard. You don't spray and pray, you aim with camera at the head then fire in semi auto. The more you fire the worse it gets for you, so you fire a few bullets and if you fuck up you move, dodge and try again https://youtu.be/QpkquXXsEr4

I'm literally being baited I swear

>>712825553
video literally says that you should ignore up+down, and only "aim" left+right, and that you don't really need to actually properly aim, because auto-aim will take care of it
"just shoot in the general direction"

literally auto-aim slop and shit mechanics

you know if you try to actually aim using the AIM button, like in metal gear games, you will get shot to pieces, by these cheaters

>>712826017
>video literally says that you should ignore up+down, and only "aim" left+right, and that you don't really need to actually properly aim, because auto-aim will take care of it
He's talking about the default camera height which puts you at the same head level as someone else, the moment someone crouches or is on another level, or if your camera isn't at the default "behind you" position you have to adjust to height you fucking retard

>>712802307 (OP)
I like MGS3 and MGS1, i think they're pretty good, but i like MGS4 the best.

>>712826120
he literally says ignore up+down
which is the opposite of aiming.
and the mechanics are broken and shit
and it's auto-aim at work
if everyone actually aimed, that wouldn't be the case

>>712826228
>he literally says ignore up+down
IN THE CONTEXT OF DEFAULT HEIGHT CAMERA AGAINST ENEMY STANDING AT THE SAME LEVEL AS YOU DO YOU FUCKING MONGOLOID

>>712826283
>just cheat the broken mechanics
auto-aim cheater