No armour's too tough!

>>712835298 (OP)
The elephant would be lucky to even make it to the battlefield before breaking down or getting stuck.

>>712835298 (OP)
why can't i get a tank game where the devs aren't insecure ruskies inflating every single stat on their pieces of shit.

>>712835298 (OP)
he cute

Mean, green, and unseen.

>>712835509
Yet despite all the reddit memes about the electric transmission catching fire it performed wonderfully at Kursk (if crewed by Sturmartillerie crews instead of Panzerjaegers).

>>712835509
Maybe, but I like how it looks.

>>712835509
Update your knowledge. It was a wonder weapons platform, great long range support.

>>712836012
I like how it looks too.

>>712835956
>Reddit
No this is common sense. Reliability is important It doesn't matter how good a tank is if most of them don't even make it to the front line.

>You must like the T-34
Nope, half of them were shit too thanks to poor QA.

>>712836352
They did make it to the front, where they offered quite nice economy of force (except when crewed by Panzerjaegers who after a whole service of crewing towed guns thought they were invincible, overextended and got fucked).
And no, it is not common sense, this is reddit and redditsphere historical revisionism. They hate "wehraboos" so much they've failed to realized they've become just like them, inventing literal lies and calling them historical facts... exactly like this meme about the T-34 being complete unreliable trash you've just repeated.

>>712836201
>Wonder weapon because it had a big gun that had long range
That's what tank destroyers do. I don't think the Hellcat (Non basketball American Version) is a wonder weapon.

>>712836829
I said some of the T-34s were trash. It depended on where the factory was made.
>Only reddit says that German armor was unreliable
Everybody says that.

>>712836829
>jaegers

Have we regressed back to that shitty American spelling again?

>>712836865
Assault gun, not a tank destroyer.

>>712837003
Yes, many people say that, because they've been fooled into thinking that, just like everyone was into the Tiger mania 10 years ago. The pendulum swung the other way. But why go by consensus when the historical records are available?

>>712837006
Well I don't've an a umlaut on my keyboard.

>>712837440
I am going by records.
A lot of them broke down and the Germans recorded them, but they were effective if the made it to the battle like other tanks.

>>712837440
>Well I don't've an a umlaut on my keyboard.
I can't remember which ones but there's alt+xxxx codes for them.

>>712835956
Germany literally lost almost all of ferdinands at kursk, some being knocked out by 45 mm and 76 mm field guns at sides.
One guy was awarded for killing several with a 76mm zis3

>>712837356
The Elephant and Hellcat are tank destroyers. The Stug and Strumtiger and assult guns

>>712835770
>game is all about hunting tiny specific weakspots on tanks and missing them does nothing
>you can pay to cover them or even make it impossible to discern what tank you are in the first place
I fucking hate modern gaming

>>712835298 (OP)
>Apparently the worst tank in the war
>A fucking 10:1 K/D

>>712837669
Exactly so don't make stupid claims that it'd be lucky to get to battle. The elefants were even able to perform in the hills of Italy, despite their flaws.

>>712837737
Not almost all, but most, yes. Imagine crewing your tanks with men who previously crewed towed AT guns.

I should have started the thread with the Jagdpanther instead.
It's my favorite tank destroyer, both in real life and in the game.

For me, it's the s-tank

>>712838161
>sniper gooning to his K/D while his team gets raped at the objective

>>712838161
>trusting ww2 KDs
reminds me of that story about 3 tigers killing 50 t34s, only for it to turn out soviets had like 12 t34s in the area and lost 3

>>712838161
That doesn't really mean much when your enemy can keep shitting them out by the dozen and you can barely afford to replace one.

For me, it's chinese tanks.

>Centurion
:O
>Panther
:|

>>712838169
it lost half directly at kursk and 10+ later in same area so they had like 30 left after the kursk out of 80

Cute skirts.

>>712839339
Yes, it was a very bloody battle. And indeed there were 2 Abteilungen, one crewed by ex-stug crews and one crewed by ex-AT gun crews.

>>712839445
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tortoise_heavy_assault_tank

NIPPOOOOOON

>>712839032
>trusting ww2 soviet loss reports

>>712840495
soviet numbers are much more accurate tho, german sources are notorious for overreporting enemy casualties and underreporting their own

>>712840952
>soviet numbers are much more accurate tho
>uhm ackually this bunch of notorious propaganda peddlers is far more reliable than the other bunch of notorious propaganda peddlers
Do you also believe Lyudmila Pavlichenko's kill count?

>>712840952
Hello Vanya

>>712841231
pavlyuchenko fought for 5 years, her killcount is far more believable than usual axis niggery with
>simo hayha killed 7000000 soviets in 3 months
or
>1 ferdinand killed 50 t34s in a day

>>712841704
She didn't even join the army until 1941 and almost all of her (completely fucking made up) kills are from a 2 month period, after which a mortar got dropped on her head and she never saw combat again. You are retarded.

artilleriekorps meldet sich!

>>712838000
just play arcade fag

>>712835770
>Aren't the trees lovely?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2i9kQ15RftQ

>>712842472
They have drones vs WW2 (and cold war) tanks now?!

>>712842943
no. you can take older vehicles ( even WW1 ones now lol) to higher BRs and mix and match strategies.

>>712838000
*laughs in CAS*

>Russian tanks are overpowered bro! there's a russian bias by the developers
>Gets 1 hit killed from the front, the back or sides, and even from front impact on the turret

Yeah, right.

>>712836012
This looks like the Lasher tank

>>712840952
Anon I'm a CCCPboo and even I don't believe soviet-reported numbers.

>>712843269
It would be hilarious to artillery strike someone with the Garfords.

>>712845381
>Britain and US both made rolling meme fortresses and neither actually got to use them
It's not fair.

>>712838161
>10:1 K/D
8 out of 10 were soviets weren't they

>>712838161
>the most derided shitbox of the war, focusing on numerical superiority, death traps etc
>still had a positive K/D
Huh