How would you save the bomberman series?

what's with the anti-bomberman schizo on /v/?

>>712854490 (OP)
Notice how they left out the Saturn from that list?

>>712854490 (OP)
Do a Sonic Mania and get the Power Bomberman developers to make a successor to Saturn Bomberman. Hire June Chikuma to do the soundtrack again too.

>>712854798
Actual mindbroken troon who flipped out that people were calling Bombergirl "coomerbait" and is pretty much running a nonstop crusade against traditional Bomberman. It's easy to notice this because you'll typically have a "shit on Bomberman" thread very close to a Bombergirl thread, and, oh look, we had the latter earlier today:
https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/712757703/

Remake Hudson Soft.

>>712854490 (OP)
Why don't you get over it? Bombergirl is literally Konami's attempt to make coomerbait.

>>712855296
This is having the opposite effect though - it's making me remember how cool the N64 Bomberman games were, and the RPG Bomberman on GBA.

>>712855018
Nobody played Saturn, get real.

>>712855296
it is really?
i made that thread and just wanted to talk about the game

>>712854798
Bombermanfags are delusional and think he’s an A-list vidya character along the likes of Mario, Sonic, Mega Man and Pacman. They rightfully deserve to get ridiculed over their obsession over a C-list character who got BTFO by superior franchises in his peak.

Hudson Soft went defunct twice, he's a nobody.

>>712854490 (OP)
bomberman quest is genuinely one of the best GB/GBC games

>>712855941
Oh so you just have autism. Got it.

>>712854490 (OP)
Boomer shit

>>712856447
Bombs tend to go boom, dumbass.

>>712855296
Thought it was a Smashfag that thinks both Smash and Bomberman are bigger than they really are.

>>712856182
Everything is true retard, Bomberman is a washed up loser with shit sales. Even semi-dormant cartoon characters like Popeye, Woody Woodpecker and Pink Panther are vastly more iconic and recognizable

>>712854490 (OP)
How many times are you going to post this literally who's tweet?

>>712855941
>>712855859
>>712854490 (OP)
HI ANTDUDE92!

>>712856590
>brings up cartoons out of nowhere
autism.

>>712854490 (OP)
make it into a gacha game with sexy female bombermen

this isn't funny guys, let me out of here

AAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

LET ME OUT NOW, IT WAS MY TURN TO SMASH. LET ME LET ME OUT LET ME OUT, I'M POPULAAAAAAR. I WANT TO PLAY WITH YOU GUYS.

>>712856713
All third parties in smash are more iconic, golden age cartoons are more iconic, even sitcom characters are more iconic. Cope, seethe dilate Bomberfaggot.

aw the autist's having a melty it's ok, bomberschizo, bomberman isn't real and can't hurt you

>>712856843
Seek psychiatric help about your obsession.

>>712856843
>>712856747
>literally a minute apart
oh you really are having a melty, i was just joking holy shit

>>712856921
Amazing Bomberman got delisted, you lost tranny.

>POPEYE'S MORE POPULAR
>mario replaced him
>the poop emoji was chosen over an animated popeye movie

I'm watching Bomberman Jetters, playing Bomberman R, and laughing at you, Op.

>>712857000
>Brings up trannies
Terminal /v/ brain. Just spending 24 hours offline will improve your mind.

>>712854490 (OP)
They can start by putting literally any game on NSO
It’s amazing that zero N64 games have been put on there, much less the GB/GBA stuff
Also drop the price of R2 you greedy fucks, it’s not worth $50 at all and even the rare sale at $25 is still a bit too much for an otherwise dead game (their fault making the online so retarded)

out of all the hudson soft ips why rage about bomberman?

>>712857193
Konami refuses to drop the price.

>>712857292
main reason why bombergirl is a thing

>>712857292
He's the mascot.

>>712855374
>attempt
I'd say they succeeded.

>>712857193
Konami did a Felix the Cat collection instead of Bomberman. What a fucking failure.

>>712857707
Actually, that Bee, Hachisuke, is the mascot.

>>712857707
It was that bee, then it was Master Higgins before the Konami buy out, then it was Bomberman.

How does one person become so deranged about an old video game character not being playable in his gay party game?

>>712857193
>>712857810
Sometime last year Konami ran a poll in Japanese and English asking which older Bomberman games people were interested in. They're probably working on a multiplatform Bomberman collection so that's why none of them are going on NSO.
https://x.com/Bomberman_EN/status/1819109740498375079

>>712857810
those must be your fun discord pals we're supposed to know, right autist? we don't know your troony pals.

>>712854490 (OP)
baku bomberman was the better series

>>712857153
based jetters fan

>>712857707
I feel like they wanted Master Higgins to be their guy.

No one tell the schizo that Bomberman met Optimus Prime and Barbie, two of the most iconic characters ever.

>>712857984
Adventure Island was dead after Super Adventure Island 2. last game was 2009 after a 15 year gap.

>>712854490 (OP)
saved from what? it's doing great

>>712858320
Are you fucking blind? Do you lack reading comprehention?
>Hachisuke was the Hudson Soft company mascot, even appearing on the logo.
>Master Higgins/Takahashi Meijin was created, and he wore a Hudson Soft cap with Hachisuke on it.
>Takahashi Meijin got his own anime. Bomberman made countless of cameos on it.
>By the Konami buy out, the second Hudson Soft bankrupcy, Super Adventure Island 2 already happened. He was basically retired, and Bomberman took his place.

>>712855931
where did you find these translated versions of the comics? i never played bombergirl but i always thought the doodle versions of them always looked funny and charming

>>712857810
That would be like making a Worms collection. Sure you have a couple unique singleplayer titles like Hero and 64, but Bomberman doesn't change much between entries. And if it had a multiplayer feature, that would only further fragment what people are playing online.

>>712858287
>that gayass Simon
What a blemish on an already limited roster.

>>712858515
https://mangadex.org/title/47f93974-d406-45dd-8dbf-03db95654516/bombergirl

>Bonk was meant to get a N64 game, was even copyrighted
>it became Bomberman Heroes.

>>712858951
It's probably a better game with bomb chucking instead of head bonking, tbqh. Though it definitely split the Bomberman fanbase releasing so close to 64.

>Bomberman gets 100s of games
>Master Higgins get bootlegged into Wonder Boy
>Bonk was gonna get an n64 game, was replaced by Bomberman
>Sir Cucumber and Milon barely existed
>Momotaro was Japanese only

I like Bomberman

>>712859282
>Master Higgins get bootlegged into Wonder Boy
I think you've got that backwards. Adventure Island started life as a Wonder Boy port, but they didn't have the rights to the protag, and thus Master Higgins was born.

>>712854490 (OP)
Bombergirl is already saving it to the point where its saving arcades too

>>712858468
Kys

>>712857153
Dude I watched like 3 episodes and completely forgot about it I need to go back

>>712858951
The futuristic aesthetic of Bomberman Hero wouldn't fit Bonk.

>>712859695
>He headbutted the timespace paradox
Boom, solved.
>>712859606
You seem upset.

>>712859489
same. i didn't play all of the games though. i can't imagine there being a better bomberman than Neo Bomberman™
the game is soul incarnate for me.

>>712854490 (OP)
I would put Bomberman 64 in the top 10.
I think the Bomberman IP is mostly mishandled and they should have stuck with the adventure/puzzle style they had going with 64 and Generations, but more so in 64's style.

>>712859818
I don't know why they didn't keep going with N64's style instead of devolving back to the older 2D games

Thoughts on Second Attack? Emulated it years back and thought it was great. Music is amazing too.

>>712859939
It's okay, but most changes it made to 64's formula were for the worse. The battle mode is dreadful with how underpowered everyone is.

>>712854490 (OP)
n64 style multiplayer

>>712854490 (OP)
>How would you save the bomberman series?
Keep playing Bomberman 64 with /v/ every Friday and Sunday

lol

>>712854490 (OP)
Bomberman was always a loser. Banjo was once an A-lister, Bomberman was always a C-list franchise with shit sales.

>>712860452
aw, op got mad people are talking about bomberman unironically.

>>712859939
Do emulators work better with it now because I remember they always had weird texture issues.
I really liked it when I was a kid, but I can't remember the music.

>>712859939
I shall play it soon but I was told it didn't really improve upon what 64 did so I'm gonna need to temper expectations first

>>712859934
Its bizarre. Its not like they really improved anything either. They evolved the game, it works, and then they just walk it all back.
64's story gameplay is fun, the multiplayer is like the natural evolution of the classic gameplay and is almost purely an improvement, Generations kept it going for better or worse, and then if memory serves, they made this horrible gritty bomberman reboot game on the Xbox(Bomberman Act Zero) that probably did irreversible damage to the franchise. I recall the Bomberman IP falling off the earth after that game was made, and we only got constant reboots of the classic style since.

>>712856747
Bomberman isn't playable because he's a fucking shovelware character with a million mediocre games and doesn't have Sonic's excuse of being an icon. He very well could have out performed Simon on the ballot but Simon has the pedigree and legacy to back up his inclusion.

>>712860357
So? They also revived DigDug for this shit series, for a week.

>>712861095
why'd you respond to yourself? you really are having a full blown melty

>>712859695
I think he meant the game was in development as a Bonk game, then became a Bomberman game, not that Bonk was going to be in that same aesthetic.

>>712860452
The more you perpetually seethe about Bomberman, the more attention it draws toward the IP.
Nobody who didn't have an N64 cares about Banjo.

>>712861095
>a character made by hudson soft, for a hudson soft game, is shovelware
?????????????

>>712861110
DigDug is more iconic since it spawned the inflation fetish.

Bomberman isn't playable in Smash because Kirby already has a bomb hat and ability.

>>712861348
this is smash bros, hudson is dead.

>>712854490 (OP)
From what?

actually now that i think about it bomberman is probably one of the top 5 most iconic character ever

>>712861653
wish you where too. one less schizo in the world

>>712854490 (OP)
bomberman does nothing for me. you don't feel attached to the bombers, and the game looks like a minigame you'd find included in the golden saucer of a larger game if you ask me.
meanwhile bombergirl is much more popular because the characters are expressive, and sexy (though it's mainly the latter considering the massive amount of gachafaggots). even the characters in the jetters anime showed more emotion and had personalities
also I like louies. they're cute

>>712861738
Seethe.

>>712861854
this image alone proves you wrong

>>712856520
Kek

>>712858776
thank you anon

>>712861867
why yes, you are, you're mad that people are actually enjoying bomberman, and having conversations about him, not jumping on your one man autist wagon.

>>712858520
Worm fumes are dangerous

Reminder they had to add Wario just for people to buy a Bomberman game, that's how little people in the West cared about Bomberfaggot. Wario himself was only 2 years old at the time and was still more iconic than 11 year old Bomberman.

>schizophrenic person who hates not a game series, but a game character
i'm not even shocked at this point nigga who cares

>>712862128
reminder you're autistic and offing yourself would make your parent's life easier

I'd buy a Bomberman Collection but that's about it. Saturn Bomberman was the last good Bomberman... well, the best Bomberman.

Other than that everything they did with the brand after Saturn was shit.

>>712862128
mark my words, bomberman fags will rise from their crypts and take vengeance upon you for your endless anti-bomberman rhetoric.

>>712862128
Didn't know this existed in the 90s. I played Super Bomberman on the SNES.

>>712862385
>World

>Spinoff becames more popular than main series
Other examples of this?

>the autistic laughingstock bomberman schizo is off his meds again

>>712862560
Madou Monogatari and Puyo Puyo.

>>712862560
Persona

>>712861930
you don't feel any attachment to that. the girls are way more expressive and ooze with personality. compare the games with the bomberman from jetters who had his grandma and mighty to look up to, and shout to keep him in line when once he gets carried away

He will be back once Bomberman 64 gets a recompilation PC port. I also need to play Bomberman Hero, I never got to check it out.

>>712861854
True
I don't think there is a bad bombergirl so far

I can't believe there's someone this obsessive about fucking Bomberman of all people, he's a fucking nobody

Didn't Nintendo tell Konami to make Bomberman R?

>>712862427
No.

>>712862273
Projection

But have you people play girl yet?

who is the target audience of this bombslop games

It's a fun little party game but that's it
Nothing wrong with that

>>712862987
If that's the case, why didn't they make him playable in Smash?

>>712863121
no game utilizes the concept of explosives quite like bomberman

>>712863120
I have Papuru.

>>712862774
>you don't feel any attachment to that.
Why? Cuz YOU don't care that means nobody else does?

>>712863204
Sakurai Autisim.

>>712863073
yes, yes you are, tranoid

>>712863920
Bomberman is a failed franchise.

>>712863970
Proof?

>>712863996
Careful anon, he's about to post the bombercuck 2024 copypasta.

>>712863996
>still gets BTFO in SSB and became a complete laughtingstock by everyone
>series gets overshadowed by waifufags and coomers beacuse of Bombergirl despite them never playing the game
>R got outsold by the new Momotetsu, a fellow Hudson IP that was only released in Japan.
>no console game for 5 years
>No games on NSO
>40th anniversary came and went with no fanfare or events. R2 flopped since nobody gave a shit
What a fucking loser. Imagine being a Bombercuck in 2024

>>712864117
KEK You called it.
>>712864118

i'd rather fuck pretty bomber than any of the generic bombergirl bimbos desu

bomberman is so bad

>>712864373
It was good before 6th generation. Tournament was the last great game.

>>712864118
don't care, still playing his games

>>712864329
>generic bombergirl
In what world you live that oppai lolis are generic?
Put me there please

>>712864117
>>712864118

Do zoomers even give a shit about Bomberman?

>>712864527
do zoomers even give a shit about marlon brando?

>>712864597
He was on Family Guy.

>>712864527
>HE NEEDS TO BE HITTING THE GRIDDY TO BE RELEVANT

>>712854490 (OP)
I only played it on windows 98.

>>712864527
Bomberman was on Robotchicken.

>>712854490 (OP)
Keep making Super Bomberman. Update the levels each game, add one new mechanic every other game, refine the gimmick every other game, add a new power up and release a new one every 2-3 years. That's 15 years, at least, of good Bomberman games. Does not need to be GotY, does not need to be popular, it's a niche that is not being catered too and it would be a pretty nice side hustle for Konami.

>>712864527
No, all the best games were before their time.

NEVER EVER BOMBERFAGS
>ITS HIM
HAHAHHHAAHAA OH NONONO

>>712857707
can't believe you'd let lode runner be caught in the crossfire like that

>>712864828
genuinely good answer tbdesu
kinda surprising that the entire concept of like small-ish scale iterative 20 dollar games is so rare in the wider industry because it seems like it'd be a really smart way to help diversify your output
(as opposed to going bankrupt because the 730572572nd battle royale slop shooter you spent 8 years and millions of dollars on is played by about four people total)

>>712865538
Hyperfixations like this aren't healthy. What is it with the trend of Smashfags being mental loons?

Actually tell people there's one getting made, and have it be reasonably cheap for people to play the multiplayer.

>>712864485
>What world is generic gacha whore generic
Retard

>>712866996
>whore generic
okbro

Super Bomberman R2 doesn't even have its own Wikipedia page.

>>712862560
Harvest Moon, Rune Factory

>>712867378
Also literally every conversation I've had about it in the past 2 years has been
>Wait they made another one?
And some guy desperately trying to claim he actually played it.

>>712854490 (OP)
I've been saying that Bomberman needs dynamically destructive terrain for years. And all of you fags shat on my idea. And then Donkey Kong Bananza debuts, and you're all saying how great it looks. Well, fuckfaces. Imagine Bomberman with that technology. Hellooooo?! The solution was right there! Why did nobody listen to me?!

Post some Power Bomberman links.

A real bombergirl on steam when

>>712867907
>7 years old game
Never

>notorious lolcow nwowolfpactv makes endless threads glazing Kevin Nash on /asp/
>everyone hates Kevin Nash as a result
>notorious lolcow Barry/Bazztek makes endless thread glazing FFXV on /v/
>everyone ends up hating FFXV as a result
>notorious lolcow Eric makes endless seethe posts on Famitsu sales threads against the switch in favour of the PS4 and 5
>everyone starts to hate Snoy with a passion

See a trend you fucking autist?
This time next year /v/ will fucking crowd funding a new bomberman because of you and the smash and splatoon audience will latch on to it and it will sell 50 million copies at this rate

>>712867512
Me: "Hey guys, Bomber Man should have dynamic Terrain"
Retards: "No, we are terminally autistic. We must maintain blocks and grids."

And then pick related is what you're missing out on.

>>712855374
Where's the bombergirl thread?

>>712868024
you miss out
>>712855296

>>712868017
Oops. Wrong video. Meant to post this one. Imagine Bomberman throwing bombs and making dynamic holes in the scenery.

Make it a gacha but the bombermen are girls?

>>712868182
Sounds like cope

>>712868017
>>712868194
Yes because what Bomberman was missing was diet minecraft haphazardly shoved into it.

>>712868612
Well it was the bombergirl thread

>>712868194
legitimately impressive tech

why hasnt this been done soober?

>>712854490 (OP)
I'd start by making a game

>>712868756
What a retarded fucking statement. Like holy shit, you're as dumb as a box of rocks.

Wasn’t there a new game announcement in 2019? Did it get cancelled?

>>712868974
it was R2

Make Bomberman fat again like his classic design.

And bring back Louies as an important part of the franchise. Bomberman lost its way when they stopped treating them as the series Yoshi.

>>712855941
>Bombermanfags are delusional and think he’s an A-list vidya character along the likes of Mario, Sonic, Mega Man and Pac-Man.
All shit tier characters lol
>They rightfully deserve to get ridiculed over their obsession over a C-list character who got BTFO by superior franchises in his peak.
Is Max Payne a good video game character despite how niche he is?

>>712869150
>took 4 years to make that shit
Can’t be right

>>712866562
Ultimate and social media/fake leaks really brought if not created a lot of unhinged bullshit that never left this place at the very least.

>>712868779
Because it has been done, multiple times?

>>712866562
Because if you are not playable in smash, you are not iconic.

>>712857073
The genddy movie would have been shit.
>t. Watched the leaked animatic that you can literally swap out any of the characters with generics
Believe me, I'm a big Popeye guy and Gendy did not know what the fuck he was doing.
>Origin story
The point of Popeye is that he suddenly appears, both in the comic strip and cartoons, like a gift from God.

I enjoyed Bomberman land. Fun games.

>If it’s popular it’s LE GOOD
>If it’s unpopular it’s LE BAD
Autism moment

>>712868779
Red faction was built on this and a lot of other games have done it too

>>712869317
I like the Puyo Puyo styled Bombermen.
Maybe add a Classic Bomberman as a character.

>>712869493
I'm sure those Fire Emblem characters are.

>>712869538
You lost, stop crying.

>>712854490 (OP)
ant is a fucking faggot

PUT IT ON STEAM RIGHT FUCKING NOW KONAMI

>>712869750
>Muh FE!
Grow up Smashnigger

>>712869885
Reading comprehension anon. Fire Emblem are totally iconic for being playable in Smash.

>>712869753
You’re mad lol

>>712869994
First party Nintendo IP retard, Bomberman is a literal who third party, hence why he’s not playable.

>>712870126
He IS playable.

>>712854490 (OP)
Hire
Power
Bomberman
Men

Mr Driller > Bimboman

Bomberman got a trillion different games because they are all the exact same thing outside of the N64 releases.

There should be a Bomberman X Dig Dug cross-over.

>>712870332
Why not? He's hung out with other big hitters.

>>712861040
that's a subjective take though. I like 64 better but 2nd attack has a lot of content and production value. It's kind of like what was good about 64 isn't there but what was bad or undercooked about 64 is improved. Also do you like classic cross bombs or not.

>>712870375
The gameplay would work with the explosions and digging your own maze.

Hell yeah, a Bomberman thread!
What's your favorite Bomberman game?

>>712854490 (OP)
nothing wrong with Bomberman its just that it cant be converted into the slop current modern audience eats up.

>>712867512
I think this anon is right. Classic bomberman multiplayer has probably hundreds of releases and if you wanted to play it you could just go seek it out right now. 64 was the best single player but a non-platformer platformer getting attention in current year is impossible. But kids love destructive sandboxes and they are in vogue right now.

>>712854490 (OP)
More boobs

>>712871061

>>712870752
Bombergirl with the /vm/ crew is fun.

>>712870752
This>>712871319

>>712867512
>>712868017
>>712868917
I'd shit on your idea too if I knew you'd get this riled up about it.

>>712864527
I do, but that's because I knew about him as a kid. I bought Bomberman Land on the Wii from Blockbuster. Didn't get into the series till later with Hero. I'm not a super fan by any means, but it's sad to see the franchise in the state it's in.

>>712857810
I'm now reminded myself about twisted tales of felix and its opening intro.

>>712870752
bomberman 64 had a nice feel despite basically copying mario 64. i wish they continued on that type of design. bomberman generations looks like it scratches that itch but its movement is really limited

>>712871301
holy shit
>kuro-black
>shiro-white
how did i not realize this sooner?

>>712872474
I would not recommend Generation if you are looking for more along the lines of 64.

I love bombers

>>712871301
Wow, Regulus looks fucking awful.

>>712872981

>>712864117
>>712864118
Read him like a fucking BOOK

>>712864117
>>712864118

>>712862081
I really like Shiron.

>>712870250
I like both, but at this rate, I think I do prefer Mr. Driller slightly.
>>712870375
I know there’s a game called Murtop that essentially plays like a Dig Dug/Bomberman hybrid. You play as a rabbit and can set bombs quickly and digging through the ground like Dig Dug.

just make another single player game
I liked 64
I liked second attack
I liked pocket
I even liked generations

>>712873178
I'm lost how that creature resembles Regulus.

>>712874413

>>712868194
Mite b cool. Need to see how well Donkey Kong pulls it off though.

>>712869634
Well Red Faction is an exercise in walking it back. 1's the only game that really leans into destructible terrain, 2 toned it down massively with its level design, and then later games got rid of the feature entirely.

>>712854798
They get triggered the people yearn for louies and more games like the N64 ones over the shitty and obvious coomerbait bombergirl trash. basically what >>712855296 said

>>712872474
>bomberman 64 had a nice feel despite basically copying mario 64.

I think in any large bomberman thread, someone mistaking bomberman 64 for bomberman hero becomes guaranteed. Bomberman 64 isn't a platformer

>>712855941
I hope you understand that Megaman is on the same tier as Bomberman at this point, both of which, have long been abandoned by their respective studios outside gacha/arcade, and only exist in name at this point.

They're iconic to "Core gamers" but they're like, 15 years since their last major releases.

>>712856590
do you have a Deviantart account, perchance?

>>712857292
Bomberman had the most success in the west and the most success going into the 2000's. The others hit their walls in the 8's/90's, even though some are still really fun and would be great to see again.

>>712876350
I want more games like the N64 ones with coomerbait Bombgergirl designs.

>>712863970
says fucking who? Bomberman 2 is my favorite NES game

>>712866827
>linux guy
it's gnu/linux RRRRREEEEEEEEEEEE

>>712876615
The difference is that the internets perception of gaming history is defined by Nintendo. To which during the 8&16 bit eras Bomberman had 2 games on the NES compared to the mass of MegaMan games.
Then Bomberman had some play during the 5th and 6th gens where gaming culture accepts more series as important across systems but died during the 7th gen.
And also despite being beloved nobody cared about the OG Game Boy outside of Pokémon and Wario getting introduced.
All along the way MegaMan kept doing more and more releases across everything and just had a higher saturation of new and varied content overall.

>>712877272
>To which during the 8&16 bit eras Bomberman had 2 games on the NES compared to the mass of MegaMan games.
Those are ultra-classic NES games. What is with this autism that everything has to face off against everything else? I could see the same lunatics melting down that that Papa John's isn't iconic as Pizza Hut. Holy shit, who cares.

>>712877272
>The difference is that the internets perception of gaming history is defined by Nintendo.
Since when?

Upgrade Bomberman to playable in Smash 4 Switch 2
Put Master Higgins or Bonk in the Assist Trophy role.
>Stage: Bomber Training Room
>Assist: Either Bonk or Master Higgins
>Spirits: Bagura, Louie, Black Bomber, Cubot
Also upgrade Goemon to playable, and Meowth.

>>712854490 (OP)
>>712854798
It felt like there was some other fag trying to force the same shit with Ape Escape except he'd make multiple threads bitching about the game's camera controls. Why can't these autists leave the games I grew up with alone?

>>712859559
>Bombergirl is already saving it to the point where its saving arcades too
No it's fucking not. I've lived in Japan for 7 years and the only time you ever used to see Bombergirl cabs is at the really hardcore arcades. They aren't even at these arcades anymore. I haven't seen a Bombergirl cab in at least 6 months. Gundam Xtreme Vs, crane games, and photo booths are the only thing keeping arcades afloat.

>>712880263
Is that why Konami seems to be making games again?

>>712854490 (OP)
unironically
>Cellphone multiplayer game
>Customisable Boomberman
>User made maps
>Colaboration with other franchizes
the core gameplay is rock solid for short in and out multiplayer matches whenever someone may be having a few spare minutes

>>712877510
Two good NEs games does not make a respected series, it makes a cult classic series.
>>712879243
The quick and overgeneralized version is that Nintendo had both first movers advantage since the Crash broke industry continuity, and PC gaming was a niche side hobby till the 90s.
Then when Sega came into things it was the alternative system that while having its own stuff did not appeal to the kinds of nerds who would use a computer as much.
A good rule of thumb is that genres like sports games and to a lesser extent or arcade genres, do not translate into posters (The kind of nerd that made up the early internet) at a very high rate, which was Sega's specialty compared to the RPG and Platformer nerds Nintendo had (Sonic was a special multimedia cultural landmark with the games being the centerpiece and so is an exception).
This carried over to the 5th gen wherein the PS1 was both the normie console and valued for its indvidual series and not for the system itself, and nobody bought the Saturn.
This meant that Nintendo fans who again are more likely to be Posters got to dominate the conversation online for a decade basically creating the modern narrative around gaming.
Its that croc vs banjo image, a shit ton of people played croc, but most moved on from video games during their teens and didn't become posters, kids who played Banjo did.
Bomberman's issue was that beyond the two NES games and 64 among the Bomberman community and so didn't get to cement itself as meanignful.
I can go into more detail I think I got my point across.

>>712879740
No one grew up with ape escape come on man
>>712854490 (OP)
Abolish all franchises. Franchises are the mcslop of gaming.

>>712857810
Get some new material already.

>>712862560
puyo puyo

>>712854490 (OP)
lol

>>712880263
I've come across it at a handful of different game centers in Osaka. CCJ is the rare game, which I've only seen once in person. Just last Saturday, I saw a group playing all 8 cabs at Sennichimae Round 1.

>>712867907
>konami arcade game
never lol

Without dedicated handhelds making a return, Bomberman is doomed.

>>712855296
I don't understand the rivalry between the two, they're basically the same game. Bombergirl is a spin-off game but Bomberman has no shortage of spinoff games, and Bombergirl is pretty pure from a gameplay perspective.

>>712880587
>Two good NEs games does not make a respected series, it makes a cult classic series.
Who made that rule? Was Zelda a "cult" series then? lol Bomberman was a big game in the 80's/early 90's. I was there. It was a more well known NES game than tons of shit. Kids liked it even if it wasn't on Mario 3 status or whatever autism we are talking about. That's the point I think. Even caring about these comparisons is autistic. It's a long running series. It was successful. A hand full of cringey Smash autists with Devianart accounts doesn't change that. End of story.

>>712854490 (OP)
Add waifus

>>712881130
Your missing that unlike those other series Bomerman never made the jump to the SNES.
I'm not even the original guy in he reply chain, I just responded to the MegaMan comment because, yes bomberman is on a level of notoriety under MegaMan who is under Zelda which is under mario.
These and not comments on their quality as games or series, i'm just trying to explain why the series never got its flowers despite its prolific history.
Which mainly come from the fact that way less People who talk about games had a PC Engine than a Nintendo System.\

>>712881758
>yes bomberman is on a level of notoriety under MegaMan who is under Zelda which is under mario.
Have sex. Jesus Christ.

>>712881758
>Your missing that unlike those other series Bomerman never made the jump to the SNES.
Most kids in the US also didn't make the jump to the SNES.
>>712881758
>i'm just trying to explain why the series never got its flowers despite its prolific history.
>Which mainly come from the fact that way less People who talk about games had a PC Engine than a Nintendo System.\
Is this appeal to authority/popularity a zoomer thing? This is on the tier of arguing about whether Col Sanders is a bigger mascot than Wendy. The series has a bazillion games. It made money, was successful, whatever metric you want to use.

>>712854490 (OP)
didn't we already have this thread

Litterally all they have to do is to do exactly what the fans did with Power Bombernan: A modernized Super Bomberman game.There is no need for some shitty 3d graphic, there is no need for fancy characters with unique powers. But for some reason every time they try to make a new Bomberman game they try to reinvent the wheel.

>>712882181
For some reason, Bomberman/Bombergirl is having more threads recently than at any other point within like the last 5 years.

>>712854490 (OP)
Lol

>>712883072
How does Bonga compare to LoL?

give 4 gen alphas a nes and a copy of bomberman and i bet they would still have fun with it

>>712882605
Because the schizo keeps making these threads.
But also some dude makes threads for online Bomberman 64 and that's pretty cool.

>>712877272
> And also despite being beloved nobody cared about the OG Game Boy outside of Pokémon and Wario getting introduced.
Tetris and Kirby, retarded zoomer

>>712882096
Nah its an autism thing, categorizing things into accurate data sets feels good and provides information.
You might not think it matters but when the question is
>Why did MegaMan get in but not Bomberman?
Then you need to look at the history of both which requires data and an understanding of the context.
You might not care for the question but tis the one I was and the one I responded to.

>>712883831
Tetris ill give you but like everything else Kirby needed a series to gain its lasting popularity.

>>712881130
> Bomberman was a big game in the 80's/early 90's
Stop lying, it barely sold and it wasn’t on Nitendo Power front cover or Captain N. Hudson failed to captalize on it in the States.

Bomberman is trapped in shitty genre hell. Take him out of those terrible puzzle games, and put him into a 3D platformer. And keep all the nu waifus that have been forced in with the spinoffs and whatnot

>>712883939
I'm not the guy you are responding to, but Kirby was one of the biggest games ever when it came out, and you don't know that because you're a zoomer.

>>712883982
But the puzzle games are fun.

>>712883973
>Stop lying,
Yeah, you're not gaslighting me on this. Both Bomberman 1 and 2 did really well and my friends new about the games or played them.

>>712883973
>and it wasn’t on Nitendo Power front cover
you are autsitic, holy shit
>>712883973
>Hudson failed to captalize on it in the States.
They did. It was a super well known NES game.

>>712884159
Post proof, the first NES Bomberman didn’t even see a European release.

>>712883884
>Nah its an autism thing, categorizing things into accurate data sets feels good and provides information.
It's stupid and it's subjective childish garbage.
>>712883884
>You might not think it matters
it literally doesn't
>>712883884
>>Why did MegaMan get in but not Bomberman?
Who cares? I'm not autistic.
>>712883884
>Then you need to look at the history of both which requires data and an understanding of the context.
You don't even understand the context, because you probably aren't old enough to remember when these games came out.

>>712884346
Have you never answered a question before?

>>712884242
>Post proof, the first NES Bomberman didn’t even see a European release.
LOL you're argument is you have to be eurotrash now? Fucking most kids played this game even if they didn't own it. Becuase you know you borrowed your friend's games or rented them from the video rental place. Two things you zoomres can't comprehend. This was one of the certified hits of that year of NES and the second game is probably one of my favorite NES games of all time.

>>712884548
nice argument, I love though you thought announcing you're autistic was supposed to impress anyone here, being mentally ill is not a good thing, friend

>>712884016
I've never heard anyone talk about the Gameboy games. I feel like the Kirby game that everyone is nostalgic for is Kirby's Adventure on NES.

>>712881758
>Bomerman never made the jump to the SNES.
There were FIVE (5) Bomberman games on the SNES

>>712884669
Kirby on Gameboy was huge and helped sell Gameboys 100 percent. It sold over 5 million copies.

>>712884823
>There were FIVE (5) Bomberman games on the SNES
Good catch. Mother fucker was able to gaslight everyone on that one because Super Bomberman has a separate Wikipedied page or something. I thought that was wrong, but I had a Genesis so yeah.

>>712884823
And Super Bomberman 2 is considered one of the best games in the series.

>>712884823
>>712884959
Most were stuck in Japan. Though maybe that's for the best.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMFKYEnzA10

>>712884823
Further more, the series has 82 release on Wikipedia. So yeah this argument is fucking retarded. Jesus.

>>712885085
well it had at least 2 SNES release in the US, so yeah that autistic faggot who hates Bomberman is wrong again lol

>>712854490 (OP)
It's already saved.

>>712885029
Availability bias. It's "the best" because it's the one (You) played as a kid and didn't get subsequent choices of getting 3, 4, or 5, all of which are also outstanding.

>>712884823
Only 2 of them released in America because Hudson USA went defunct. More proof he's a failed franchise.

>>712885617
I did have it as a kid, but I had a family friend that had a Japanese copy of Super Bomberman 3, with the 5 player multitap.

>Had this as a kid
>Didn't catch on that it was somewhat Bomberman related until years later.
>It's also Blaster Master.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNsaZKN6tiE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZMZ-J0H8OY

>>712877272
>The difference is that the internets perception of gaming history is defined by Nintendo.
You can blame American millenial youtubers for that.

>>712854490 (OP)
Make a new Bomberman with lots of louies.

>>712885646
it has 82 releases, you're just a mad autist having a meltdown

>>712885757
>You can blame American millenial youtubers for that.
anyone ever taking YouTubers seriously was a mistake, but we literally have retards now that just copy/past their opinions from them because they are un-curious automatons who constantly say shit that is just flat out wrong because why would YouTube lie

I know some Bomberman fans have no idea how huge Hudson was back in the day in Japan. They used to have Country-wide competitions and Fan Festivals. They even had VHS releases that while at the core, advertising, still had a lot of heart and soul added into it.

Take this one for example at about 47:30
https://youtu.be/KwN255UvQDc?si=yFM8bMKeo3vOmJ8D
Practically a full on Tokusatsu Bomberman skit featuring Hudson characters.

>>712885836
You said SNES retard.

>>712884631
I brought up my autism because I was being honest.
Again have you ever answered a question before?

>>712885938
This is why Banjofags are jokes.

>>712886262
nah, you're the retard, you keep moving the goal post, first it was no SNES games, then someomone says there's 4, then you're crying there was only 2 in the US becuase of corporate drama, the fact there is 82 games in this series shows how fucking utterly pathetic you are crying this isn't a successful franchise, holy shit fuck off

>>712886380
Not even the same poster. Seethe faggot, Bomberman is not as iconic as you think. Enjoy your cuck trophy and shit games. I bet you never bought R2.

>>712886326
>I brought up my autism because I was being honest.
Autism is a mental disorder. It isn't a badg eto wear on your sleave that makes you smarter than anyone else for getting mad at Bomberman for not being Megaman. It means you're mentally ill and should fuck off and get treatment instead of subjecting us to your childish nonsense.

>>712886326
>Again have you ever answered a question before?
I answer all your questions. You're just too autistic to comprehend the answers.

>>712877272
>The difference is that the internets perception of gaming history is defined by Nintendo.
That's not even barely true post Google Holocaust.
Most people don't remotely respect the aggressive shilling of nintendo crap by youtubers. (Much to the annoyance of the staff of this website)

>>712884823
Good to know and I appreciate someone haveing more knowledge than me on the subject so I can integrate it into my future discussion.
Now I need to rethink my position on the matter and come to a new understanding to why bomberman never became as prominent as MegaMan.

Just figure out how to put Bomberman 64, Hero and Second Attack on NSO and that will do more for the franchise than constantly rehashing the Bomberman R formula for a quick buck, or Bombergirl for masturbation addicts.

>>712886428
>Not even the same poster. Seethe faggot, Bomberman is not as iconic as you think. Enjoy your cuck trophy and shit games. I bet you never bought R2.
You are autistic and I"m making fun of you for caring about "how iconic" Bomberman is compared to other game mascots. You're the one seetheing about something retarded.

>>712886512
>Now I need to rethink my position on the matter and come to a new understanding to why bomberman never became as prominent as MegaMan.
Why does this matter? Further more, you are obsessing over a completely subjective ranking. You do get how insane that is right?

>>712854490 (OP)
how did Bomberman stay obscure while Pacman got big? Does it need a Shadow Labyrinth?

>>712886518
>or Bombergirl for masturbation addicts.
why do zoomers think people masturbate to mild fanservice?

>>712886493
I'm not treating my autism as a badge, you asked why and I answered. Anything beyond that is projection on your part.
And you never answered any question of mine because I never asked.
Cards on table I don't actually care about Bomberman itself, I already fucked up answering the question this thread. I also get the feeling you don't respect me and that's fine, but I don't see why answering a question makes you so angry. Do you just not like the answer?
Because to my understanding if the question was so meaningless there is no reason to get mad about it.

300. Let us make 500.

>>712886661
Bomberman didn't start out as an arcade game, giving it far less exposure.

>>712880926
the whole "any bomberman game has the same multiplayer" concept from the Handheld era was really ingenious, but just delayed the inevitable

>>712886518
NSO is dead since Switch 2 released, no point of releasing it to a dying system.

>>712886704
Wish we were discussing the games proper instead of dicking with a resident sperg.

>>712886704
>I'm not treating my autism as a badge, you asked why and I answered. Anything beyond that is projection on your part.
Do you get how fucking weird it is to defend why you're being weirdly obsessive by explaining your autistic like that is is helpful information I'm just supposed to accept for why you're being childish about a completely subjective debate that is being forced on people through threads spammed in here to annoy people?
>>712886704
>Cards on table I don't actually care about Bomberman itself,
Okay, you're just an obsessive dick with too much free time. Got it.
>>712886704
>I also get the feeling you don't respect me and that's fine,
LOL

>>712886518
>Bombergirl for masturbation addicts.
I'm busy trying to 1 frame link my skill's i-frames into bomb chains to notice.

>>712886824
That's fair if he is doing this often then I will wrap it up.
>>712886943
Thanks for clearing that up, again I saw a question and answered it, I even got a correction on the info I had and will adjust accordingly when talking about Bomberman in the future.
However whay subjectivity is there to talk about?
From what I have seen you have just dodged around the subject.
First by saying it doesn't matter and being mad that I did answer and then when I gave my reasoning and the data you pivoted to a personal attack and again have pivoted to a "its all subjective and doesn't matter" position when data is data.
From my understanding of you now, I hope you can come to terms with being able to like Bomberman without getting mad when its brought up how other series are more popular than it. that's not a mark against the series quality, its just how it is due to circumstance and choices out of our hands.

>>712886518
>Bombergirl for masturbation addicts.
You only get lewd scenes if you die plus some people play on chibi mode

Make another Bomberman 64 style game, easy money.

>>712855859
The Saturn is where I played Duke 3D for the first time.

>>712887364
>First by saying it doesn't matter and being mad that I did answer and then when I gave my reasoning and the data you pivoted to a personal attack and again have pivoted to a "its all subjective and doesn't matter" position when data is data
You're mentally retarded and don't get that arguing that a 100 game series isn't "iconic" is both subjective and stupid. I'm trying to help you in this case by telling you act more like an adult instead of an autistic cringelord that thinks you can make data based arguments about something like this.

Is Saturn Bomberman really that good? Only considering multiplayer.
My favourite for multiplayer is Bomberman DS. The two screens and all the different bomb types just hit different.
But I never played any of the pre 64 games

Dont know if you can.

The latest game looked really cool but nobody bought it because nobody is willing to pay $50+ for bomberman. It would have to be like $10 or free and then it would have tons of dlc to make money

>>712854490 (OP)

not played a bomberman game in at least 20 years, which one would /v/ recommend?

>>712888492
Bombergirl

>>712888508
>MOBA
lol no i mean a bomberman game

>>712888492
Can't deny I'd say Bombergirl too.
For the traditional games, Saturn, 2 DS, and the N64 games.

>>712888623
If there were a way to play bombergirl without lag it would be in the top 5 bomberman games

>>712888623
Literally the most popular Bomberman game ever and outsold the original series.

Tsugaru jump scare.

>>712888623
Literally the most popular Bomberman game ever and outsold the original series.

>>712888492
Bomberman 94
Saturn Bomberman
Bomberman 64 Trilogy
Bombergirl

I hate Smash niggers so much, bros

>>712886772
One other thing no one likes to consider is that Bomberman has an infinitely high skill ceiling and is meant for competitive play, and while deceptively simple, Bomberman asks quite a bit of players in terms of full-board awareness and tracking lots of changing variables across the span of short 3-minute bouts.
It unironically filters retards because you can't break through beginner level play unless you have an IQ high enough to process the shit Bomberman demands.
Untrained eyes look at the game and just assume it's a simple "stay out of the fire" game when in reality Bomberman is an extremely accelerated strategy game with discrete early/mid/endgame phases, clear lines between stalemates and checkmates, clear distinctions between players of different skill levels, and hard checks on whether your skill is enough to survive at all. Yet it can still be played enjoyably as a party game much like Smash Bros due to the ostensible simplicity of its base mechanics.
Unfortunately a real metagame rarely has time to develop around any given Bomberman title because of high turnover (people getting filtered), not enough high-level players or ways to train high-level play, and a multitude of titles with no real unity between them. Power Bomberman is as close as we've gotten so far, but it would take Konami having some shred of respect for both the series and the players in order for an "official" Bomberman game to become a viable central hub where players can actually find decent matches and sharpen each other as steel unto steel.

>>712861854
>Louies are just a translation error
>"Louie" supposed to be "Rooey" because they're basically kangaroos
>name sticks forever and would probably get people mad if they changed it
Same goes for the "Varia" suit in Metroid, it's supposed to be "Barrier" suit.
Still funny though.

>>712854490 (OP)
As someone that's replayed a few classic Bomberman games recently, I'd honestly say the baseline combat's just too old, and I hate to say it, but it needs to be modernized.
The only people left who play Bomberman games are the people who played them originally, the series only "survives" on nostalgia alone.
Not modernized in a bad way, I just mean shit like converting the game into a more action-based platformer, maybe in the style of a slower Sonic. IIRC the N64 game played like this?
Put emphasis on explosions, have every boss get nuked after they're beaten or something.

I dunno, I'm not even sure if Bomberman CAN be "fixed" outside of removing the grids and the plus-shaped explosions, those two are definitely non-negotiable, they'd have to go.
It's actually a little funny, the plus-shaped explosions are a key part of the strategic gameplay in the franchise, but they're a big part of what makes the franchise into normalfag repellant. The other part is how goofy the Bomber-people race looks, though they've tried to fix that via Act Zero and Bombergirls, so IDFK.

Would people still have went “Bomberman has no moveset potential!” If he wasn’t an assist?

>>712854490 (OP)
More triple fudge packers.

>AntDude
Fucking kill yourself

>>712862560
cheers to frasier, they really made niles & maris more sexxed up for the gachascramble mechanic

>>712890754
Better than Nitro Rad

>the only two ways for a bomberman thread to get more than 50 posts are bombergirl and a samefagging schizo
grim

Make a Bomberman 64 reboot ,with the Same music but more Fluid gameplay

>>712891319
aloe

Make femboy Bomberman and maybe people will care about him

>>712891319
No sincere fanbase. Even Banjo-Kazooie threads hit bump limit and it has only 2 good games.

>>712889476
whatever they call them they should bring them back and give them more screentime
way more fuckable than the crayola anime girls

>>712854490 (OP)
No one says this shit about frogger

>>712891717
Frogger had a cartoon and Seinfeld episode.

>>712891656
I don't even like VRchat but there's a set of Louie models for it and I just had fun screwing around with them.
They've got custom interactions with bombs you can throw, explode other Louies and such with, and one thing you can do is eat a bomb and blow up with it.
Too bad inflation stuff doesn't work too well in VR, in my opinion.

>>712854490 (OP)
Make a gacha

WTF why is the thread saging? We had fun shitting on Bomberniggers

>>712892992
It was good while it lasted...

>>712893591
We should do this often, very funny seeing Bomberkeks assblasted defending a dead, subpar franchise.

>>712892992
>>712893591
>>712893634
Can you be any more blatant about your samefagging?

>>712889954
Smashfags don't play video games, they operate on vibes and think what their favorite youtubers tell them to think.

>>712893738
Try again faggot, more than one person hates Bomberman.

>>712893928
You're Yoshizilla, aren't you?

>>712894007
who

Fuck Bombernigger