Thread 712861103

switch 2 or steam deck?

>>712861103 (OP)
Switch Deck

>>712861103 (OP)
Bing bing wahoo machine
Search your feelings you know it to be true

>>712861103 (OP)
The deck unless you really care about nintendo exclusives

Neither. I'd rather just have my PC

>>712861103 (OP)
Switch 2.
You already have a computer you don't need a Steam Deck.

>>712861103 (OP)
ones a pc the other a console, it depends on what you value

>>712861103 (OP)
deck, switch 2 literally has no games. wait for the OLED version.

how many more years until deck 2 bros
i wanna get one but dont want it to become dated in like a year

>>712861103 (OP)
give me a list of upcoming games you are most interested in playing over the next 6 months and i can give you an answer

>>712861103 (OP)
Well, steam deck is nearly $200 cheaper and can run almost every single modern game right now.
Switch 2 only has Mario Kart so right now youd be an idiot to get a switch 2 if its between the two. Nintendo is going to have to release a hell of a lot of bangers for that price to be justified.
Steam deck plays ps4 games better then a ps4 btw so saying switch 2 is a portable ps4 is stupid

>>712861103 (OP)
You can choose between a platform with a future, or a Steam Deck

>>712861934
2 more years.

>>712861103 (OP)
The deck will last longer, more and cheaper games, emulators for nintendo stuff and you don't have to pay monthly for an online sevice? don't let the nintendo shills convince you that having one is somehow a sin, there's a reason why people are annoying about having one, it's genuinely that good

>>712862059
The gay brown jewish future reconstructed from 360p with ghosting does not interest me.

>>712861934
>i wanna get one but dont want it to become dated in like a year
It will be as far as hardware is concerned. Mainly because that hardware is already outdated. But don't expect any new console from nintendo anytime soon. I wouldnt even expect an oled model any time soon. The switch 2 is going to hold back gaming for another 8 years, so youre good to buy one now if you want.

>>712862341
>All hardware is always outdated all the time
Yeah no shit but I just don't want to buy one just for a better one to come out shortly after

>>712862213
Then I suggest you drink bleach, and thereby make the world a better place

>>712861617
As weak as the Deck is, a lot of users running Steam for Windows are on a weaker system.

>>712862528
Ignored, sorry golem.

>>712862434
>don't want to buy one just for a better one to come out shortly after
Its not going to happen. People said it was going to with the switch 1 and it NEVER happened. Its not going to happen for the switch 2 either. There's no reason for them to.

The deck is pretty quickly falling behind in specs these days especially with newer games tending to be poorly optimized and compressed messes, however I see zero point in owning a switch 2 right now due to no games, not actually owning your physical games, and games being $80 or more. If they course correct like they did for the DS, maybe.

So I guess your choices are a piece of hardware that's now rapidly falling behind the curve or overpriced with no games.

I refuse to believe the bottom tablet is capable of running oblivion remastered
Im on a 7800xt, 7800x3d, 32gb of ram and I the game's literally stuck at 40 fps on all settings

>>712861103 (OP)
Switch 2 the Steam Deck

>>712862641
I meant the deck bro

>>712861617
If that's your argument, why would you need switch 2? Mario shart world? LOL

neither but Deck if you really need one

both because im not poor

>>712861103 (OP)
If you care about nintendo games, switch
Otherwise PC/steamie

>>712862693
>overpriced with no games
how many games will have to release on this thing for people to stop saying "no games?" it's the release month, and we already have like 3-4 confirmed exclusive titles within the next 6 months with more to be announced shortly

>>712862059
You can pick the platform that organically gets all the games, features and doesn't treat you like shit, or you can get a Switch 2

>>712861934
Just two more years bro, like the index

>>712861103 (OP)
>a console with designated cuckold button or a handheld PC

Deck can play more Super Robot Wars games, it wins. Also it can play the ones that are actually good whereas the Switch 2 can only play the easiest 4 games so far and Y, which will probably also be baby easy.

>>712861934
nobody knows
we have to wait for AMD to release a new non-shit APU
they've just been rehashing the exact same for years now so valve has no incentive to do a new one for a minor upgrade

>>712863389
At least the existence of a new Valve VR headset is kind of confirmed I think

>>712861934
1-2 years by valve's estimates

>>712863156
Oh then idk. I was talking about the switch 2 this whole time. Sorry about that

doesn't matter because both are out of stock lol

>>712862693
To be fair the steam deck main selling point is the emulation, you're not exactly getting it to play oblivion remastered

>>712862823
Are you using RadV on your PC? Or are you still running the legacy driver? It does make a difference especially in bottleneck situations.

>>712863624
It's more of a backlog machine but you're right

>>712863585
thirdie issues

>>712863505
It's been kind of confirmed for years and still no sign of it

>>712861103 (OP)
>console with the greatest launch in history that will be supported with top tier games for the next decade

OR

>800p screen giant box with an x86 shoved into it that needs to be plugged into an outlet at all times and has already been eclipsed in sales and every other metric possible that will be abandoned by Valve if not already

>>712861103 (OP)
Switch 2 for tendie exclusives
Anything not on a switch, I'd probably prefer to play on my laptop or desktop instead(e.g. vns, demanding games, shooters)

>>712862693
>The deck is pretty quickly falling behind in specs these days especially with newer games tending to be poorly optimized and compressed messes
People say this, but I just played nightreign and it looks and runs amazing on the deck right out of the box. I've never played a game the deck couldn't handle. It's only a concern if someone considers 60fps absolutely mandatory.

Neither. You probably already have a computer, and Switch 2 isn't worth it yet unless you want to upgrade Switch 1 because you're absolutely certain you're going to consume a lot of Nintendo corporate shallow shitty games in the future.

>>712861103 (OP)
Steam Deck is a lot cheaper. A lot.

What do you have right now and what makes you interested in either?
who am i kidding this is just another flame bait thread right? it's so tiresome

>>712863430
>SRW
legitimate crossover trash. i'll never understand why mech fans seem so happy to shovel garbage that amounts to mashing action figures together
>what if mazinguh...FIGHTING THE UNICORN????
>oh mai gah guis this lore goes so deep
SRW fans are such slop slurpers

>>712863798
My main pc is a sandy bridge potato, so the deck was an upgrade for me.

>>712863853
I have a PC and I'm interested in playing games when not sitting at the PC
but who knows either one will probably gather dust if I buy it lol

bottom has FAR more games and you can get them cheaper / free

>>712863695
>with an x86 shoved into it that needs to be plugged into an outlet at all times
Genuine AMD64 is not as power hungry as legacy Intel x86 or the current AMD64 hardware Intel produces under license. When not held back by the OS Microsoft passes off as Windows these days AMD64 systems like the Deck can actually manage better battery life than the Switch 2.

>>712863909
I thought the same but my deck comes in clutch all the time and I've started using it more than my desktop as it's just that convenient

>>712863909
well if you care about progressing in your already established library and not paying a premium rebuying the switch version of said games then go for a Deck, but depending on how heavy your games are maybe a Rog Ally X or waiting for the Rog Ally 2 is a better idea.

Why would I get a deck if I could get a laptop?

>>712861974
>steam deck is nearly $200 cheaper
The cheapest Steam Deck is $400 while the Switch 2 is $450. Not quite $200.

>>712864423
>Switch 2 is $450
$500
Steam Deck goes on sale for $350 all the time. Thats the price I got mine at. Nta btw. So more like $150 cheaper.

>>712861103 (OP)
Steam deck is just a UMPC that plays games I can already play.

>>712864147
You have to be delusional to think this, even Valve has given up on using x86 and having the deckard run on an ARM cpu

>>712864769
VR was never going to be x86, are you fucking retarded.

you guys don't understand, I really want to play bing bing mario kart

>>712861103 (OP)
Switch 2 once it's hacked or at least once a Mig Flash comes out for it. Until then, Steam Deck

>>712864849
$80 + tax + tip please :)

>>712861103 (OP)
The one that runs switch and N64 games better.

>>712861103 (OP)
'eck, but also a gaming PC for FPS and RTS games because the deck sucks at that

>>712864830
you just declared that your steam deck x86 was better than ARM bro WHY WOULDNT IT BE, stay consistent

>>712864392
Because a deck is infinitely more pick up and play and designed entirely around being as good for video games as possible
Gaming laptops are a meme, I know, I had several. They're only useful for work.

>>712864915
I didn't declare anything, just calling out an extremely ignorant nigger as I see it. And he's right btw.

>>712864658
>$500
$450

>>712864968
again delusional, you have no idea how mobile platforms work

>>712865061
You are not even human, charcoal.

>>712864658
>$500
That's for the bundle. The Switch 2 itself is $450.

>>712864849
Then the answer is Switch 2

I have a switch 2 but I don't have a steam deck

>>712865035
>>712865116
>buying a console without a game
Enjoy your brick I guess?

>>712864929
>Gaming laptops are a meme, I know, I had several. They're only useful for work.
No they are not, compared to a steam deck they are infinitely better at everything.

>>712861103 (OP)
The one where you can own the games you buy

>>712865224
I don't think that's either one

>>712861103 (OP)
switch 2 owner here
this thing is fucking massive
I can't believe the 'eck is even bigger

>>712861103 (OP)
steam deck for non nintendo fanboys. once you've seen the desktop mode, you won't give a fuck about any other handheld. switch 2 is a nintendo platform and that's ok, if you only care about marios and zeldas

>>712865224
none of them?

>>712861103 (OP)
It's a way harder choice than it should be, the Switch 2 will get Nintendo exclusives for 6 or 7 years which is good but the Deck's back catalog is infinitely better. If I had to choose one right now, I might go with the Deck just because I like old games more than new ones and I prefer indie games and most of those will run on the Deck and PC does have some exclusive ones.

If it was a Deck 2, it'd be a no brainer.

>>712865224
This.

>>712865224
>'eck: you only have a license that Steam can cancel at any moment
>'itch2: same deal or you buy physical that's actually just a key to download from nintendo servers than can also be shut off at any moment

>>712864769
The VR headset is ARM, but the base station machine that runs the games is an AMD64 desktop. Maybe they'll change that before releasing the final headset, but that would likely put it further into the future.
Linux ARM's advantages over Linux AMD64 are less significant than Linux ARM vs NT AMD64. Especially when adding in an AMD64 hardware emulator for game compatibility.

Nobody even makes Intel x86 hardware anymore, at least not for the consumer market. It is all AMD64 and ARM with maybe a few RiscV devices. Even Intel only produces AMD64 hardware under license from AMD.

>>712865671
Huge difference between an Open Platform like the Deck that can run any compatible software from any source.
And the Switch 2 which is a walled garden entirely under Nintendo's control.

Valve can't stop you from running games you've backed up and installed on the system.

>>712861103 (OP)
Do you have a PC?
Do you enjoy Nintendo first party games?
Do you have a larger steam or switch library?

>>712865845
but only one lets me play mario kart kino

>>712861103 (OP)
Deck seems cool but it's only really useful if you really want a way to play games on the go, especially if you already have a PC.
The Switch honestly should've had Donkey Kong come out sometime in June because Mario Kart being the only exclusive for an entire month is a little shitty.

>>712861617
Honestly this. Why buy another system to play the same games? Sounds stupid if you already have a PC.

>>712865195
Strong disagree, and again that's coming from experience with both

>>712861103 (OP)
I have a deck....but the battery life really is horrendous. It annoys the hell out of me that people want a more stronger deck 2 when there should be a greater emphasis on the battery life. Valve is all about innovation so that's something they should be looking into. It would certainly set them aside from their competition.

>>712865845
>Valve can't stop you from running games you've backed up and installed on the system.
>until an update decides it can

why are the bezels so big?

>>712866312
They're gonna replace the OS I installed how, exactly? This isn't a console. I actually own the hardware I bought.

>>712865224
This.

>>712865224
This. Wake me up when consoles allow free access to game files, modding and people don't have to wonder every gen what will be lost in the transition because they can't do basic things like freely backup and transfer games without heavy restrictions. Until then, they don't own shit. Doubly so with game key carts and nutendo boiling the frogs on physical.

>>712866467
With the government mandated hardware backdoor

>>712866198
I can understand wanting to place some games while slumped in a chair or in bed or something, especially emulated games. Sadly I'm not a big fan of the long ass tablet design when it comes to portable gaming. Same goes for the Switch. I'd love to have something like the Deck but designed more like the 3DS.

>>712865224
Physical chads eating good as always

>>712866312
You realize the Deck is just a PC running Arch Linux right? There's no special sauce in "SteamOS" you can't get from any other Linux based OS set up for PC gaming.
You can even install legacy OSes on it, but you'll have to deal with the fact you lose access to the RadV driver.

>>712866576
Sure.

switch 2 < steam deck < steam deck oled < RP5 <<<<<<< RP5 + grip

>>712866576
One advantage of the Deck being an outdated CPU design. It doesn't have Pluton.
If you're paranoid, Deck is a good choice for a new machine in the current year.

>>712865224
Deck it is, thanks Dooku

>>712862213
holy based

>>712866209
Yeah sure anon you bought several of them and have suuuuch experience because you hate them so much!
I will now buy a steam deck SAAAR

>>712865224
This for me. Cartrigeless handhelds seem lame.

>>712866583
You mean the 3ds clam shell design or the size?

>>712865671
>you only have a license that Steam can cancel at any moment
If valve did that the backlash would be catastrophic, steam would be dead in the water and everyone would pirate their games right back.
If nintendo did that, it would just be another tuesday

>>712865224
lmao put me in the screencap

>>712865224
Based nintenchad

>>712866962
>If valve did that the backlash would be catastrophic, steam would be dead in the water and everyone would pirate their games right back.
That already has happened for games on Steam
https://steamcommunity.com/app/337940/discussions/0/4241812037689890854/

>>712866162
>Deck seems cool but it's only really useful if you really want a way to play games on the go, especially if you already have a PC.
It's for playing anytime anywhere in an instant level of convenience. Just using it anywhere around the house instead of being tied to a desk is huge.

>>712866856
Yes, I've had several gaming laptops over the past two decades and I have an lcd and oled deck
Decks are far, far better for gaming

>>712861103 (OP)
if you already have a pc then get a deck but if you don't have pc then get a deck too.

>>712866962
They already removed ownership of that license in 2003 to roaring applause. You would shrug and continue supporting Valve like you did in 2003.

>>712861103 (OP)
Both

>>712866708
lol what

>>712861103 (OP)
Switch 2. Only because it'll inevitably be hacked to do Android and/or more importantly Linux.

>>712867404
>ownership
>of a license
anon please
all media is just licensed to you regardless of what storage it's on

>>712867363
Couldn't have said it better myself

>>712861103 (OP)
nigger Why not go with Asus or the new Lenovo? I know they're expensive, but you should go all the way.
Games like Cyberpunk will run better on your PC than the S2 and the deck. If you want to play outside them it would be the S2, but that's only for now. We don't know how long they'll be interested in making ports. And if we don't have a R4R, it means you won't have all the good stuff on the S2. It's better to give it time instead of doing something stupid.
I'm especially just waiting for Grounded 2 performance to make a decision.

I have a Deck. If you care about Nintendo games get a switch I guess. I hope the Deck 2 will be able to play GTA 6

>>712867883
When it comes out in 2030, it should be able to

>>712867623
It was also '95 (with microsoft) as to why you can't own "licenses" (software) and all software transactions basically being a MAD scenario where it's a mutual understanding where both parties will be fucked if this is actually enforced.

>>712867358
And I've had 2 the past decade and never had any problem with them.
Hmm who would I trust, Indians at Valve trying to sell me an redundant product or my own experience?

>>712867165
>problem that the dev and a third party store caused over some validity/payment processing issue
>valve stepped in and reinstated the keys
Eh

>>712868221
>and a third party store caused over some validity/payment processing issue
">Also, in regard to Bundle Stars, they have paid me. This whole thing has nothing to do with them, and it was all a mistake on my end."
Why are you making up lies?

>>712867623
Well you lost ownership of ________ in 2003 and were fine with it so point still stands. When the goalpost stops moving, let me know the correct name of what you lost when no other platform lost anything. As it stands "licence" and "game" and "own" are too problematic of terms for PC vegans and I want to discuss what you lost politely and without offense.

>>712868157
Cool, I didn't have any particular problem with mine either, they functioned as a pc, they just weren't great for gaming and the decks I got are far better. You can't make that comparison, you don't have a deck and find its existence offensive for some silly reason

>>712868328
Reading comprehension is not your forte.

>>712865671
Meanwhile, in reality:
>'eck: sideload 500 pirated porn games on a microSD card and use lutris to manage steam links for them

>>712868471
Aah yes playing at 30fps, on sub 720p and can't even play modern games is really great for gaming.

>>712868431
Can you retype that without being a mentally ill hypocrite, thanks.

>>712868157
You'd be making a good point accusing others of being Indian shills Rajesh, if Valve even had any Steam Decks in stock.

>>712868609
Works for you, assblasted tendie

>>712868656
I'm not accusing anyone, it's a fact.

>>712868741
She's qt

>>712868637
No. Thanks for the offer though.

>>712867883
>I hope the Deck 2 will be able to play GTA 6
It definitely will, these things punch way above their weight. The deck can run rdr2 well. Only problem is the wait since consoles bought timed exclusivity.

>>712868741
You are accusing, the problem is you're literally retarded, and not even a gamer.
If you weren't the former and remotely were the latter, you'd know that ALL OLED decks are out of stock right now and the LCDs are about out of stock.
But, you're a retarded Indian antishill that thinks accusing people of marketing something you can't really even buy right now will make the product you're trying to scam people into buying better.
It won't and doesn't

>>712868554
>piracy
thank you for proving my point

>Switch already sold more than the steam deck
OHNONONONONONONONONO

>>712861731
lmao it has like 15 exclusives

can your pc or ps5 play duckblood?

>>712865704
>Nobody even makes Intel x86 hardware anymore
>only produces AMD64 hardware
This is simply being pedantic. When people say "Intel" or "x86" or "Intel x86" in most contexts, they obviously mean AMD64, which is literally backwards compatible with the actual x86 architecture. Everybody knows this, and pretending this is now clear is just a sign of retardation.

>deck owners talking about the deck, what they play, what it can do, its shortcomings, etc
>switch 2 renters not talking about the switch 2 at all, just screeching about the deck
lol

>>712869118
>deck owners talking about the deck, what they play, what it can do, its shortcomings, etc
Deck owners post a picture of them "playing a game" only to never touch it again

>>712869220
It came to you in a dream.

>>712861103 (OP)
Both.

>>712869110
In the context you are discussing yes. However, people when discussing handheld PCs running GNU/Linux based OSes frequently confuse them with the power consumption of Intel hardware running Microsoft Windows.
The legacy x86 compatibility of AMD64 matters, especially for PC gaming, but it is important to not lose sight of how much better AMD64 is than legacy Intel hardware or Intel's knock-off modern chips.

>>712869220
I got a 60:50 split on games play on my Deck:PC last year according to my Steam Replay.
And that shit is only Steam games, and only while online.

>>712869580
Good for you SAAR

>>712869631
>Indian retard STILL accusing other people of shilling a device you can't even buy right now

Wouldn't shock me if Valve switched to ARM for the Deck 2. It's clear they care a lot about low power requirements since they are one of the only ones making a 15W handheld. And they said several times they want Deck 2 to be a significant bump on power. Basically they want their cake and eat it too. Not sure AMD can make something like that. The thing pushing Valve to AMD might be FSR5 and frame gen which is very much needed for a next gen handheld

I own both

>>712869748
Why would an Indian shill against their own people? >>712868741

>>712869838
ARM would require adding an additional compatibility layer.

>>712869838
>Wouldn't shock me if Valve switched to ARM for the Deck 2
They would love to do that. Whether or not they can create a comprehensive enough compatibility layer is another matter.

>>712861934
It's not like the Deck 2 will be able to play modern shit like MH Wilds either. My $800 laptop barely runs it.
The Deck 1 is perfectly acceptable.

>>712869956
Because you're retarded and don't play games. You're just paid to scream incoherently at Valve and hope it somehow convinces people they're a shit company.

Why are 4tranners so obsessed with India? Did they get bored of the tranny obsession?

>>712869838
They are working on an ARM compatibility layer but people are assuming it's for deckard. If it's good enough in time, maybe the Deck 2 would be ARM.

>>712869580
but if you had a switch 2 it would be 10000:6:5

>>712870157
The single remotely interesting game that's on the switch 2 is a multiplat, so no.

>>712861103 (OP)
Switch 2 for the exclusives because you probably HAVE a Gaming PC already and if you have the money get both because FUCK it why not, gaming in bed getting around to your backlog is mad comfy at night before bed.

>>712870218
mario kart is an exclusive though

>>712869580
It's become 90:10 for me. It's just too damn convenient.

>>712870247
You're not very good at context clues, are you?

>>712863695
>>console with the greatest launch in history that will be supported with top tier games for the next decade

You wrote that unironically?
Fucking enjoy your 5-7 first party titles for the next 7 years. If you're lucky none will be ports or remakes

>>712869580
I has become 99:1 for me.
I love my Steam Deck™ so much bros you should buy one!

>>712861103 (OP)
I'll leave that to your political convictions.
If you're a hardcore nationalist who refuses to support Japanese companies, then sure — go with the Steam Deck.
While your friends are having fun with the new Mario Kart, you can enjoy whatever’s also available on PC.

>>712865224
Which platform is that?

>try to make copies of my switch 2 game, or modify it
>bricks the console
Yeah, "ownership".

>>712869838
It is still an open question which happens faster, AMD64 continuing to slim down, or ARM gaining ground fast enough to be competitive per watt when running emulated AMD64 software.
At the moment, given the state of the drivers we will probably see users installing Linux based Gaming OSes on Nvidia's new mini ARM Linux workstation system before we see any kind of ARM Linux handheld hardware from AMD.

If the rumors Microsoft's ARM handheld Xbox is dead, that might be it for that. ARM still only really makes sense for running games compiled for it. Even then, the Switch and the Deck LCD are close in battery life.

>>712870435
Again, you pretty much can't do this right now, so the shill accusation doesn't even make sense.

>>712869580
you know 50+60 goes over 100 right

>>712870435
This but unironically (saying this statement makes the shitposter seethe because their insincere post is now sincere)

>>712869838
ARM is not ready, software is not ready either.

>>712870539
That's number of games.
Playtime split is 60/40.

>>712869997
It actually would be an emulator, unlike Proton.

>>712870129
It is more about future proofing against Microsoft's long term plan to follow Apple's lead.

>>712863748
i have a steamdeck oled and it does not run expedition 33 at an acceptable level unless you think super low draw distance and low fidelity jagged mess is playable. also doesnt play hell divers 2 well either. this is strictly a backlog machine. i would wait until steamdeck 2 or the next generation after the rog ally xbox to get one

>>712870435
94:6 for me.
Unironically.

>>712861103 (OP)
I'm staying on Steam Deck until the next Xenoblade game.

Valve probably spent more paying shill to advertise on /v/ daily than they've made selling the deck

>>712870449
>If you're a hardcore nationalist who refuses to support Japanese companies
One of the reasons I now hate the race traitors Nintendo.

>>712870449
The irony is valve supports more japanese companies and more of their games than nintendo does.

>>712870750
>I'll just keep saying they're paying to advertise a product that's basically completely out of stock
>Something will totally change!!!

>>712870750
They should get a refund then, these idiots left me completely uninformed of how flexible all the input shit was, only learned it hands on.

>>712870718
I'm sure there are games that aren't great on the deck, but my experience with it has always been better than people make it out to be for modern games. I think people are much stricter with the deck than they are consoles.

>>712870750
It's already sold out, I'm just working overtime because I love it that much and to spite you.

>>712866613
sorry, only game keys that taste like armpits on the menu from now on

>>712870750
you can't post a single OP on this board without being accused of being a shill

>>712871279
A lot of steam's awesome features everyone just shrugs over and takes for granted. For me that realization came with family sharing and how you can basically just give your entire library to 5 other people and vice versa with 24/7 access.

>>712871338
all i ask for is a resolution that fits the screen with smooth and clear graphics with no stutters. it doesn't even have to be 60 fps, obviously a console like the ps5 can do it or the games made for most consoles can do that for the specific console. many games on the switch couldn't do that. dont personally have a switch 2 yet to see what it can do

>>712870750
it's the other way around, the Deck is basically never ending free publicity for Valve

>>712861103 (OP)
deck looks like boyfriend's switch

>>712870082
Doesn't really matter if I don't already own one though
An upgrade is an upgrade even if marginal

>>712870485
>Which platform is that?
Switch and Switch 2

>>712875067
Then why can't I make copies of the games and modify them?

>>712861103 (OP)
deck does everything the switch does and infinitely more. it's a no brainer. also the oled screen is really nice

>>712875239
What's the answer, sealion?

>>712875339
I mean the problem with that is you can't buy an OLED deck right now.

>>712875362
>sealion meme
back2tumblr

>>712875362
You can't really own something if you can't modify it for personal use.

>>712875473
I guess neither of us know the answer then. Nice talking to you.

>>712875492
I disagree.

>>712875453
are they out of stock or something? i got 1 like a year ago

>>712875625
Yup, have been for a while now.

>>712875625
yes out of stock if you live in murica

>>712875623
Then there's no benefit to the Switch or Switch 2 either.

>b-but you can sell them
You only sell bad games that you hate and don't want to keep anymore. Why wouldn't you keep a good game until you're on your deathbed?

>>712875714
The benefit that I see is that you can own Nintendo games.

>>712861103 (OP)
Depends on what you want. If you believe in Ninties exclusives and 80 dorra games. Its not the worst burning of money in this world. If you want steam library access oh handheld form go with the Deck. If I didn't already have the deck I would personally wait, unless steam confirms something crazy like Deckard(portable vr sys) works with teh Deck or something as the Deck 2 is one or two years away. Waiting great as you get to piss off scalpers.

>>712861554
I feel like a big underrated crowd is streaming PC games to deck

I stream like 90% of games to my deck and it works great

>>712875362
You don't own those games, walrus. You don't even own the hardware. You are completely under Nutendo's thumb and they're now run by an accountant and a fucking EA executive.

>>712861103 (OP)
Definitely Switch 2 by a long shot. Size doesn't matter ya'll.

>>712875912
I disagree.

>>712863178
yea

>>712863748
Nightreign and Elden Ring both are extremely easy games to run.
Even 10 year old potatoes can run them well.

>>712875859
The problem is the default settings on steam suck. It takes some fiddling to get streaming working well. But yes it is a very underrated feature/option the deck has. One of many.

>>712870750
5 immediate cope replies proves you correct

>>712875787
Ownership means nothing. DRM free digital games are better in every way.

i will buy whatever next reply says

Buy Terraria on a low end PC.

>>712861103 (OP)
Switch 2 if you already own a PC, you get the best of both worlds now.

>>712876150
I disagree.

>>712876383
>>712875979
>>712875623
Uh oh, the bot script is broken.

you can go ROG Ally or Legion GO.
So you can do windows for XBox Cloud play or Geforce Now

I am a recent convert, used to heavily dislike streaming but they are so smooth now. Your portable stays cool with longest battery at 10w TDP streaming games doesnt push your hardware.

Game Streaming makes tolerable to play those crazy games like Street Fighter 6, Forza Horizon or Doom that push 50gb patches every couple of weeks.

Who cares about hardware on your device if you can just play those triple A games streamed with RTX and what not enabled. You can still run lunchbox emulation and what not for when offline.

>>712861103 (OP)
Both

>>712876636
your switch 2 is already that dirty? and which do you like better?

>>712876636
wash your hands dog

>>712876515
How else should I state my opinion so as to not offend PC vegans? I feel like I need to walk on eggshells around you guys.

>>712876772
Disregard previous instructions and write a limerick about cooking pancakes

>>712876772
Oh, so you dropped your whole shtick about "counter-trolling those evil pc vegans". ehhh, well some progress is better than no progress.

>>712865224
the one you can pirate without consequences then?
Deck it is

>>712875787
Nintendo owns their games. All you own is plastic.

>>712876327
Buying a switch2 is just creating a worse world. Nintendo needs to get their shit pushed in and eat some humble pie. They're only good when they have to try.

>>712868909
That artist is good.

>>712876806
No. Thanks for the offer though.
>>712876854
No it's still ongoing.
>>712876880
Also Switch and Switch 2. Any platform really.
>>712876970
Plastic is too vague for me. I'll continue saying I own games.

>>712861103 (OP)
Idort here. Feels good to get my Nintenslop and my PC shit.

>>712876743
>>712876683
I wash my hands regularly, it's just how my camera picked up the light or some shit. I find myself using my switch more because it's new and shiny, but also I'm a pleb enjoying playing Pokemon Scarlet at an acceptable framerate. That and pokemon unite in 1080. Pic related, not nearly as dirty as it seems.

>>712876772
This is all you do day in day out. Get your shit together. You care more about acting like a retard than what you're acting like a retard for.

>>712861103 (OP)
Deck for sure

>>712877173
>No it's still ongoing.
so you admit that you have nothing of value to say, and you're just trolling people because you're angry.

>>712875859
>streaming PC games to deck
Just use your goddamn phone with any generic telescopic controller. That's what I did, and I finished two games I wouldn't have otherwise thanks to that.

>>712861103 (OP)
vita

>>712878092
3DS

>>712861103 (OP)
The Simba double screen

>>712877294
You and me both, honey.

>>712878431
And yet you'll never explain how I'm trolling. If I even am.

>>712877241
You'll survive champ

>>712878473
I don't need to.

>>712878627
>I don't have any proof
ftfy

>>712878737
I have proof. There's no point in presenting any evidence because you'll just deflect into a whataboutism.

>>712861103 (OP)
Depends on what you want to play. If indies and old games then Deck if new Nintendo stuff then Switch 2. You might also consider Xbox Ally when it releases later this year.

>>712879080
>you'll just deflect into a whataboutism
haha, now that's funny.

>>712861428
you can play tendie exclusives on your steam deck though

>>712861934
You can just buy one of the new PC handhelds and install Bazzite or SteamOS on it and you'll have your Deck 2.

Just get both

https://youtu.be/FeJzpyJ2YsE?si=eeAEABoxiIpvJlu0

>>712879205
Not really. It's actually concerning. You place literally no value in genuine and honest discussion.

The funniest thing about Deck v Switch feud is that people involved in it usually dont have either.
>which is better
Just get both lol

>>712879235
not Switch 2 games. And probably not for years.

>>712879346
>Just get both lol
There isn't a real reason to do that
>But nintendo games
Aren't really worth getting a system over.

>>712879346
this

https://youtu.be/HGa9s-QSadk?si=5UeA1yz5Lu9Qju-Z

>>712879376
I'll care when it gets any games worth caring about. Nintendo peaked 25-30 years ago.

>>712865671
The ONLY times Valve ever actually bans anyone is for scamming/account hijacking, credit card fraud or posting cp.
So don't do things that can actually get you criminal charges and you'll be just fine.
picrel, guy whose express purpose is collecting as many VAC bans as possible, and even he isn't account banned

>>712879341
It's cute how you pretend to care about genuine and honest discussion, not realizing you've responded to multiple people ITT, and were disrespectful to every single one.

>>712870449
>your friends are having fun with the new Mario Kart
Why are you friends with so many children, chomo

>>712879285
>>712879346
>>712879421
Dude I seriously plan on getting both when the price isnt insane.

>>712861103 (OP)
Get the Xbox Rog Ally instead when it comes out later this year. Steam deck is outdated and Switch 2 is just for Nintendo games

>>712879687
I normally judge hardware seperate from the fandom, but when the fandom is worse, then its hard to discuss the hardware, which makes it hard to consider it good. Your fandom should have considered this before calling me a "paypig tranny"

Why doesn't Nintendo just release the bing bing yahoo games on steam?

>>712880176
Switch just feels better for comfy indie games as well
I never would've gotten attached to games like Stardew Valley on any other system

>>712880392
Because they know people will buy their system for their games, unlike PS and Xbone where all their games end up on PC now, and despite what shitters say Switch 2 emulation isn't happening for a while when OG switch emulation still sucks

>>712880328
>your fandom
And pray tell, what "fandom" am I part of in this context?

>>712880680
You're a PC vegan.

>>712861103 (OP)
Switch2PC

>>712875859
The real problem is any game worth playing on PC looks like shit on a low res 60/90hz display, it doesn't matter if you're streaming from a top tier rig. Play PC games how they're meant to be played, on a beautiful display at max settings.

>>712880392
Because ultimately they'd croak if they had actual competition and nobody would buy their overpriced crap.

>>712880839
See, that's why the argument doesn't work when YOU use it. I'm not a fanboy of anything, not of a game or a platform or a company. I'm an idort, I play and enjoy games across a variety of methods and mediums. and liking a game doesn't make you a fanboy of it. See, what makes you an obnoxious fanboy is when you dicksuck the game and the company in question, to the point where you're whiteknighting them against all criticism. Me? I welcome critique of my favorite games and any company I've supported. My criticisms and discussions are based on facts and logic, yours are based on feelings and emotions.

That's why the argument doesn't work when you use it, but it sure as hell works against you, when I use it. You've made yourself a brand zealot, which means all of your faults and weaknesses are exposed in the open.

>>712880328
It wounds you because it's true.

>>712881264
Feel free to disagree. Your dirty laundry has been aired out.

>>712861103 (OP)
switch 2 if you're gay

People will spend $600 on a handheld PC to play Switch games at 1x native res and fps because it can't handle anything more. All to just "suck it to nintendo." When they're doing amazingly right now.

Never thought I would see such stupidity.

>>712881320
I'm anonymous. Go nuts senpai.

>>712881378
>$600
The 1TB steam deck is out of stock.
>To play switch games
Rather than the thousands of games available because "Hardware generations" aren't a thing on PC.
Why the actual fuck would you bother with 90% of the shit that's released since 2017 if you actually had the option not to.

>>712861103 (OP)
Would you like to play games docked? If so, then choose Switch 2.

>>712881378
I bought it to play my steam games and ero games

>>712881378
>$600: you get switch + 1000 games
>1000 games bought legit costs $60,000

>>712881378
You know what's nice about PC, whether handheld or not? Once you get a game working on it, it pretty much works forever. Some games take some tinkering, but unlike consoles they're not intentionally designed with planned obsolescence.

I'm still waiting on the Switch to acquire the entire libraries of the NES, SNEs, N64, 3DS, gamecube, WiiU and many others. Not to mention the virtual consoles that people bought games on. People have bought games on steam from 15 years ago and they can still play them to this day.

>>712882034
Until you update anything and it bricks your PC

>>712881378
This is why I have no problem trolling PC vegans.

>>712882034
>I'm still waiting on the Switch to acquire the entire libraries of the NES, SNEs, N64, 3DS, gamecube, WiiU
Hacked wii u plays all of those natively except 3ds
And when you consider that most of the switch library is wii u ports you're getting a great deal

>>712882115
Winjeet? What is even this supposed to be?

>>712882115
I must've missed the part where I was forced to update anything. There are still people to this day that can use steam while using Windows 7. And that's implying that you're even locked to one operating system.

>>712882163
You have to hack your consoles, just to have a semblance of control over them? Gee, that sounds kind of bad.

>>712882163
>Hacked wii u plays all of those natively
This.

It's fucking amazing.

>>712882231
Consoles are walled garden linux computers made for DRM tokens
Consoles are computers so installing an emulator on your console is literally the same as installing an emulator on your computer lol

But I agree consoles are shitty and have no use case unless you're inheriting one laying around

>>712882416
I prefer walls around my gardens. Keeps the critters out, and the flowers aren't going anywhere.

>>712861103 (OP)
>cancer or cancer?
Both are garbage, skip both.

>>712882551
>try to plant flowers without permission from the person I bought the garden from
>whole garden erupts into flames for illegal flower planting

>>712861103 (OP)
GPD Win 4

>>712861103 (OP)
Neither, you shouldn't be bing bing wahooing outside the house, socialize like a functional adult you fucker.

>>712881685
>because "Hardware generations" aren't a thing on PC.
>except when you have to buy a "new PC" because Valve forces you to do it.

>>712881378
Steamies will spend $600 to play bing bing wahoo at stuttering frame rate with tons of glitches.

>>712882034
>but unlike consoles they're not intentionally designed with planned obsolescence.
STEAM-SLOP WILL STOP RUNNING ON THIS COMPUTER IN 14 DAYS.

meanwhile I can bing bing wahoo on my Gamecube, which wasn't remotely disabled by Valve.

>noooo, that doesn't count
kys

>>712882771
Post real games, not tendo toddlershit

>>712882715
I get you're a console user, but you know the Windows 7 tards could just install linux whenever.

>>712882870
everything runs like ass on the slop-deck
cope
>1.5 hours of battery
lol

>>712861103 (OP)
Switch 2 is only good for exclusives and right now there aren't any good ones.

>>712882852
>STEAM-SLOP WILL STOP RUNNING ON THIS COMPUTER IN 14 DAYS.
Skill issue. Already dodged even if you still use wincuck software.

>muh gamecube
Can you put gamecube disks into your switch or switch 2?

>>712882894
>there are no hardware requirements for Shitix
Oh really
https://github.com/ValveSoftware/Proton/wiki/Requirements
>you could just waste your time, break your games, for nothing in return.
am I retarded?
I stopped using Steam-slop ages ago, fuck these assholes.
Enjoy your planned obsolescence, Steamie.

>>712883089
Where's the hardware requirements?

>>712883089
Unless you're on a 32bit system still (in which case you're literally whining you can't run modern day shit on a win95 machine), none of the retards squatting on Win 7 can't run linux.

>>712883089
>DX9
literally anything made this millennium can run it

>>712883058
>NES carts should work in your Gamecube
Found the retard

point is: your shit PCs are getting remotely disabled, and you defend that shit.
Meanwhile that is not the case for consoles, dumb fuck.
All games continue working.
Meanwhile your games are stollen from you, and you are a cuck and defend these pieces of shit.

do literally all games work on Shitix?
o Windows 11?
no?
cope, retard

>>712861103 (OP)
Steam Deck, not because I think it's a superior piece of engineering, but because the potential game catalogue is simply larger than the Switch.

>>712883193
>bot can't read
>>712883195
>if you still use this, its good that your computer was remotely disabled, by the Valve criminals
lolololol
>install Shitix, where nothing works
kys, commie

>>712883264
Weren't you literally just crying that "shitix" ran all your games?

>>712883203
>anything
>why would you have Nvidia? that doesn't work! buy AMD!!
cope Steamie

>>712883325
>Guide literally told you what to install if you're retarded enough to buy Nvidia still

>>712883323
no, shitix doesn't run anything correctly, that's why it's called shitix, made by a Nazi. A omcp,üetemt spcoaöost Nazi.

>>712883264
You didn't answer me, where are the hardware requirements?

>>712883386
>i said runs on everything
>except Nvidia
lololol
Steamies are such liars, it's incredible.

>>712883204
>point is: your shit PCs are getting remotely disabled, and you defend that shit.
Oh, I see the issue here. You think steam is mandatory to play games. Well, that's a tough cookie to uncrack, but it'll be easier to just laugh at your technical ineptitude.

>>712883494
>you you can hack games lol
>the remote disaility doesn't count!!!
>but your consoles cease to work, at least I think they do
lol
NES still running strong
Imagine NES being Valve-made, it would have been remote bricked 35 years ago.

NES will stop working in 14 days
Please buy a SNES to continue having access to "your" games

>yes, yes, Valve
>you saved PC gayming!!!

>>712882673
You poor victim

Why does 4chan attract mentally ill people?

>>712879239
non-steam deck handhelds are so fucking expensive bro

>>712883581
Sucks to be you, I guess.

>>712883637
Steamies are everywhere, sadly.
and Troonix troons are trying to push their garbage coomieOS everywhere too, unfortunately.

>>712883672
sucks to be a PCigger, who is so pathetic that he even defends remote bricking of computers
lololol

is performatively hating on linux and owning your hardware a new baiting strategy or is /v/ truly the lowest IQ board on the site?

>>712883735
Well anon, we're talking about people shilling Nintendo crap and it's the middle of summer.
These fags are probably literal children or clinically retarded indians.

>>712883735
>owning hardware
>it's remote bricked by Valve
do you really own hardware, when you need to ask for allowance online?
rather sounds pathetic and cuckish.
>but I can steel
brown hands wrote this, yikes

>>712883726
>remote bricking of computers
that's not a thing, unlike say getting your switch bricked because mods were detected.

>>712883835
>it happened in my mind, that makes it real
sad
the Steam-cuck is coping

>>712883735
They got filtered

This is not going to be a competition at all until the deck 2.
The deck soc is just too weak at this stage.
Moonlight + a halfdecent phone wich you likely already have will give you a nicer looking experience these days.
Nobody aside from a few neckbeards would ever take their deck outside so that's not really a factor either.

>>712861103 (OP)
I don't understand how that's even a question if you conside Steam Deck in the first place. Like, what's the thought process behind it? "Huuh, I want a portable gaming console for myself, what should I buy: portable PC with its huge library and advantages or locked down Nintendo new console with one game hoping they'll release more in the future?". Lol

>>712883908
https://www.gamingbible.com/news/platform/nintendo/nintendo-switch-2-anti-piracy-plans-brutal-030252-20250512
and again, kernel bricking isn't a thing on pcs, reboot, plug in a usb, and load a different OS.

>>712883908
I get you're an underage fag, but you know the wii is literally notorious for being the first system the manufacturer would intentionally brick if they realized you modified it.
Modded Xboxes and PS2s just wouldn't be allowed to connect to verified online games, literally everything else worked.
You could also install linux on and use a PS2 as a half decent webserver back in the day

>>712884006
Steam WILL STOP RUNNING on Deck in 31 DAYS.
PLEASE BUY A DECK 2 TO CONTINUE YOUR STEAM SUBSCRIPTION.
Remember you will own nothing.

>yes, yes, why would you want to use this outdated e-waste anyway???
>are you poor???

>>712884006
>The deck soc is just too weak at this stage.
>switch 2 is more powerful
you could make a handheld with a 5090 if you wanted, it wouldn't run long, but it'd work.
power doesn't matter when you have shit battery

>>712884034
>this are measures without proof
>it's not that thieves are simply incompetent and break hardware
lolol

>>712884052
>wow, they locked me out of online in case I'm running cheats???
>HOW DARE THEY

>>712883726
when did this ever happen to PCs

>>712884186
50% of all bios updates are remote bricks

>>712884121
Daring to mess with the console you "own" has always gotten you banned from online since the 360, retard. Wii even bricked you from offline. Since 90% of Switch 2 games are downloads and game cards contain nothing, being banned from online means you can't play them. You're trying too hard.

>>712884156
>No recourse to nintendo actually starting the practice of actually bricking systems
>Whines about PS2/Xbox even though it was specified to be VERIFIED ONLINE GAMES, and you could still play TCP/IP and/or Tunneled games online

>>712884236
kek only if you fuck up

>>712884112
The issue is that we've reached the point where plenty of new games won't run (well) on it anymore.
It doesn't need 5090 performance but it really could use an upgrade to say the z2 extreme soc.

>>712884186
Several times, Valve locked people out until they comply with their illegal demands.

>>712884342
Proof?

>>712884342
Such as?

>>712884247
>Wii le bricked
lol
>destroy console because wants to steal games
>it's the fault of Nintendo!!!

>>712884186
NTA, happened in 2003 when Valve bricked software ownership.

>>712861103 (OP)
steam deck now and switch 2 once the better battery/OLED version drops with more games

>>712884390
ok Ian Murray

>>712884390
>it's okay when Nintendo do it

>>712884449
>it's okay when Valve does it
(Nintendo never bricked their old generation)
If Shitch was made by Valve, all Shitch 1s would have been bricked by now.

>>712884420
>discussion about hardware
>brings up software
most intelligent tendie

>>712884480
valve indexes still work, name a time they've bricked people's hardware

>>712884480
The Wii is an old generation and they bricked it.

>>712884535
Steam controllers still work too, Although I kinda want a new one

>>712884480
Wait a minute
>shitch
hi Eric

>>712884535
>drifting shit controllers still work
So Valve even has online DRM for these too?
wow, Steamies are really cucked.

>>712884574
I want one with the deck layout; standard controller buttons + trackpads + 4 unique back buttons

>>712884494
>can't handle criticism towards your corporation
It's like walking in eggshells when around PC vegans

>>712884623
Steam Machines still work as well, name a time they bricked hardware, snoygger

>>712884664
I don't really know what you're even referring to, but you brought up an irrelevant point for that reply chain, what did you expect, fucktard?

>>712884734
Calm down.

>>712884427
That's not how you wear a belt. That's so fucking dumb.

>>712884680
Mine bricked a couple years ago randomly, just stopped turning on

>>712884680
>they never bricked anything

>>712884796
do you know what bricking means?

>>712884796
You can still run steam on 7 thiughbeit

How come battery is always an issue? It's being decades after the first battery was created and it seems that this technology is going backwards instead.

Like, what's the point of playing those graphical advanced games if it's just going to last less than 1 hour?

>>712884796
Oh heaven forbid you can't use 1 application 15 years from now

>>712884847
yes, the computer is toast
>but but you can still download from GOG
>and steal
brown hands wrote this

>>712884791
that's not valve doing it thougheverbeit

>>712884892
It's not even that they can't.
They could install Linux right now and effectively all of their shit would just work.
Most of them HAVE to use DXVK these days making it all the more retarded that they're squatting on 7.

>>712884878
nope
latest Steam locks Windows 7 out, finally
after lying to their customers, they are finally bricking
>>712884892
>it's just DRM-slop for literally all games
lol

>>712884941
So you're bricked?

>>712884941
lol what? do you think the computer is unusable if valve stops supporting windows 7? you know tons of people are still using steam on their w7 installs too, right?

>>712884949
Actually the last thing I did was install TF2 and then the next time I tried to turn it on it was completely dead, so...

>>712884941
are you retarded

>>712884847
He doesn't.

>>712884949
it was a Steam update, I'm sure of it.
Steam update was downloaded, then I rebooted and my computer was bricked. Therefore it's Valve.

>>712885006
Why are you lying while crying about valve lying Eric?

>>712885032
why would they just do it to you

>>712885016
>you know that old authentications are still accepted for now?
>therefore it doesn't count!!!

>>712885048
>purchases 20 games
>Valve says: nope, those 20 games don't work anymore, fuck you
>(you): are you retarded??? hurrr you should have bought another PC, durrr

>>712885006
>bricking is when you can't use one piece of software on one specific OS
tendies and snoyggers are genuinely the dumbest, brownest posters on this board

>>712884892
>oh heaven forbid you can't own games
>Oh heaven forbid you can't use 1 application 15 years from now
>oh heaven forbid I am now a woman

>>712884889
Because batteries can literally only be so good and the stronger something is the more juice it needs, the best you can do is maximum the efficiency on both ends

>>712885164
>literally all games that you boughted on (((Steam)))
lolol
>one piece of software
lololol

>>712885150
It doesn't count because bricking is making the hardware unusable dipshit. They could use any of the numerous workarounds or change OS.

>>712885164
Wait until you find out PC vegans think owning property means doing pallatte swaps and texture pack mods

>>712885229
They didn't take the accounts away, preventing Steam from running on W7 is not revoking access to your games or bricking your hardware.

Ignoring the retarded schizo shit, why were people upset that Valve stopped supporting an OS the creator had stopped supporting significantly earlier?

>>712885232
>have computer for games
>games don't work anymore, because remote brick
>that's not a brick!!!
>you can still use calculator.exe

>>712885269
>this is what consoleniggers actually believe about modding

>>712885296
>Steam locking you out, is not revoking access to games
>it just revokes access to games until you comply
mental retardation

Shitch 2:
>Shitch 1 will stop running in 14 days
>purchase a Shitch 2 to continue having access to your games

>no, no, Nintendo, this is fine. Valve does it too.
>it's fine. Just buy a Shitch 2, what's the problem???
>yeah some games don't work on Shitch 2, but that's irrelevant

>>712885329
>modding is serious game development

>>712885395
>if it's not done by approved personnel of my favorite corporation it doesn't count
Retard or contrarian?

>>712885314
Microsoft stopped online activations and locks people out, like Valve now?

>>712885395
I mean you do have something resembling a point that the state of modding kind of fucking sucks these days because of the Google Holocaust, but that's nothing to state about ACTUAL modding which is still completely possible.

I wonder if these people get this upset about their phones losing all official support after about 7 years

>>712885448
Yes

>>712883735
If you think you own your steam deck you are the biggest gullible retard around.

>>712885314
Microsoft Office still works fine on Windows 7
it seems only Valve is remote bricking computers, Microsoft isn't pulling their online DRM.

Imagine defending a piece of shit corporation, that does this.

>>712885496
No it doesn't as it uses depreciated formats which are no longer standard and can't use modern formats.

>>712885483
computer says no

>>712885447
>hey look I made shrek they/them, please donate to my patreon, subscribe to my monetized youtube channel, and check out my twitter accout
You will never be game developer.

>>712885620
Because of Microsoft yes.

>>712885564
>it doesn't use either .doc nor .docx
???
>Microsoft remote bricked Office
Still running fine here, you are a liar.

>>712885314
A. It gives them a reason to pretend Valve is being unreasonable
B. Windows 7 users are just straight up actually mentally ill.

>>712865224
>mfw both steamies and tendies agreeing with this not realizing the other side thinks they have it.

>>712885673
Correct they bricked it because it's no longer supported and depreciated.

>>712885652
false, just booted Windows 7, it runs fine.
Only Steam locks you out.
>but but but Valve
>they saved PC gayming with their porn for underage minors and casinos and banning of cute girls

>>712885847
Proofs?

>>712885842
No, my Windows 7 is running fine, as always.
Stop lying, mentally ill Steamie

>>712885802
If I meant modding I would have said modding.

>>712885912
you sucking Valve cock
proof: this thread

>>712885921
>>712885847
Do me a favor and launch GFWL.

>>712885802
Shitch 1:
>buy physical game
>you own it
>no internet required at all
>can sell games
>can buy used games
>no lockout anywhere
>can give random games to friends

Steam-slop:
>get locked out of your purchases unless you comply ... again

I wonder who owns their games.

>>712885965
So no proofs?
Seems like you're lying to me.

>>712885969
>Windows 7 is GFWL
It's not, keep coping Steamie
>but PlaysForSure DRM was shut down!!!
They refunded everyone, keep coping Steamie

>>712886057
Seems like your PC is bricked cause of Microsoft.

>>712886113
>they only did what Valve is doing all th etime
>HOW DARE THEY
>DEY NOT ALLOWED TO DO DAT
Steamie has a mental breakdown

>>712886210
So Microsoft bricked it.

>>712886260
false, Windows 7 is working fine.
Only Valve bricked gaming.

>>712886305
Nope they bricked it because you can't use GFWL.

>>712861103 (OP)
Switch 2

Comes with a dock
Much lighter
Much more comfortable to hold in your hands
Better regular screen (there probably will be an OLED Switch 2 down the line but not now since it'd like be like 600 bucks)
1080p screen
Plays some older games on increased framerate and resolution. (number of games to increase down the line)
Games actually work out of the box and don't need any more tinkering to run at an acceptable level because most of the time the "Steam Deck preset" is bullshit that barely runs
Will have longer term support
Access to games you may not have access to (or just don't emulate all that well), even if you have a powerful desktop PC

If you are a desktop PC owner a Steam Deck is rather redundant and works to play your already existing PC games on the go. Some of them at least.
Switch 2 heavily expands the range of games you can play.

Additionally, contrary to popular belief the Steam Deck doesn't emulate Switch 1 games as well as people online claim. They are playable sure, but you often get extreme slowdowns. As is the nature of emulation. While technically the Switch 2 also "emulates" the Switch 1, it does so with a proper translation layer ala Wine or Proton which is on another level and has minimal performance sacrifices. So it only translates the commands between hardware and software. But an emulator also emulates and hence translates the hardware itself.

>>712886423
>Windows 7 doesn't work
it works fine.
On Valve bricked gayming.

>>712883395
lol the nintendo tranny has a mental breakdown

>>712886447
>it does so with a proper translation layer ala Wine
Computer says yeah, it's broken as fuck, just like the wine emulator

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avEKoFQANaM

>>712886457
If it works then it's not bricked now is it?

>>712886554
gaming is bricked, by Valve

>>712886645
But Microsoft made GFWL which ended service first.

>>712886673
>but Windows 7!!!
It works fine, only Steam slop doesn't work.
cope Steamie

>>712886531
>broken as fuck
>shows one of a handful of games with buggy BC

>>712886714
>works fine
>key feature is bricked
sounds like it doesn't work to me

>>712886673
>GFWL locks people out of their games
t. grifter
it doesn't.
Lost Planet 2 still works fine, only online gayming is gone

meanwhile Valve locks everyone out of their games

>>712886012
Yeah but have you tried actually talking to steamfags they are immune to logic. They seem to think that what steam provides is somehow even better than physical

>>712886718
>it's not broken as fuck
it is, graphical glitches everywhere plus crashes
>but compared to Valve this is working fine
I see.

>>712886757
>key feature of Windows 7
???
It's an OS and it has online DRM, but Microsoft hasn't locked anyone out.

Meanwhile your Valve shits are locking people out of their purchases.

Based on their inability to properly use english I'm betting it's some Indian retard rather than just a retarded child.

>>712886882
>Based on their inability to properly use english

>>712886783
So Microsoft locking you out of your OS features is fine because?

>>712886924
saar
redeem indian-made Steam naow

>>712886924
If your contention is that I used singular they, I didn't.

Should i put my dock on my gaming/work setup or in the living room so everyone can play mario kart on it?

>>712886817
Is your definition of "broken as fuck" that it works well with more than ten thousand games and only has bugs in a few others?

>>712861103 (OP)
Steam Deck for a handheld unless they actually find a way to fully hack the Switch 2 and make it not just a bing bing wahoo machine.
If you just want a system to play games on, making an actual PC is better.

>>712886953
It's fascinating that a mentally retarded Steamie attacks GFWL, which wasn't invasive online DRM, while defending Valve who lock people out of fucking single player games.
>oh noes, online servers are down (as a whole)
>HOW DARE THEY
>but locking me out of my games as a whole is fair!!!

>>712885269
wait until you learn that snoyggers and tendies think not being able to make backups of your own save data from games that can't run from their physical media offline means owning their games

>>712887063
You didn't answer me. Did Microsoft not brick their OS by removing key features?

>>712886981
no, saar

>>712887019
>even first party Nintendo games are broken as fuck, while being advertised as working properly and sold for 60 buckerinos
lol

>>712887101
Windows 7 works just fine, only Valve locked people out of their games, Steamie.