What went wrong?

HR is great, MD is also pretty good.

>>712887552 (OP)
Mankind Divided took too long to release and Square Enix is a dogshit publisher

>>712887552 (OP)
The story is pretty bland and you never find anything interesting in the emails. Would have benefited from the pulpy tone of the original, instead of the dry, po-faced approach they took.

For me it was,
>kill these two guys simultaneously to get max xp
bit tedious, or am i retarded?

>forgettable characters
>story isn't that interesting
>pacing is whack, third act was clearly cut
>final boss is just some thug

But the gameplay is an genuine improvement over the first in pretty much every way (wish they brought back a few more things from the original but it gets close) and the artstyle is an genuine 10/10, this is what a Deus Ex prequel should look like. A real mixed bag. High highs, low lows.

good games, but the audience doesn't exist
gotta sloppify it to cyberpunk levels for success

>>712887552 (OP)
>What went wrong?

that I never asked for this

>>712887552 (OP)
Absolutely nothing, both are great games.
And I unironically enjoyed Deus Ex 2

>>712887552 (OP)
They made one of the best hubs in gaming in MD at the expense of the third act

>>712887552 (OP)
consolized garbage
I can't believe people actually praise human revolution. Fucking cover shooting and takedowns requiring energy, what the fuck were they thinking?

>>712888203
The first sold a lot & in the case of the sequel did everything within their power to stillbirtth the sequel leading up to the launch & worst of all cut the game in half. It was basically an extravaganza of things that would make the intented audience not buy the game. Its like they went through a checklist of things they could do to ensure it'd flop and did all of them.

>>712887552 (OP)
>jensens has noticeably shorter shoulders
i really dislike how they went out their way to emasculate the protag
the end of this soi boying era of main male characters in the west cant come soon enough
power fantasy needs a big comeback

>>712889682
The suits wanted MTX and mobile game shit in there instead
The artstyle was great though

>>712889872
Did you just forget that HR Jensen is a literal cuck?

Everyone loves to blame Squenix but even cut content aside the game has problem.
>lots of screen clutter just for the sake of it (because we can afford now duh) so they had to introduce vision augmentation to fix the problem they created
>it feels like half of the quests boil down to constant traveling between upper and lower Prague
>Vega who were supposed to be impulsive non-stop swearing gunblazing latina was turned into smug annoying mutt

>>712890458
how so? reveal your retardation

MD story was meh because it was building into a sequel that never happened.

The game itself is just a better version of HR.

>>712887552 (OP)
>canadian devs
should have been developped in the last bastion of videogames : Europe

they removed the piss filter

>>712887552 (OP)
I'd still take another Mankind Divided game over the other trash being sold today any day of the week... I honestly don't understand how some gaming journalists and people bashed Mankind Divided yet somehow think games like Outer Worlds are great

>>712891402
most game journos dont even bother playing games to full completion
its all reviews based on the impressions from the first couple of hours
thats why some actual good games get poor scores and shallow games get great scores
thats the gist anyway and your answer

>>712891402
>game has piss filter
>game takes place in a mega city
>piss particulates probably flying around everywhere
>every street probably smells like a mcdonalds bathroom
when you think about it the piss filter was even more brilliant than we originally gave it credit for.

when you got to the end of the game on that oil tanker or whatever at the end of the 360 game and youre out in the ocean, the piss filter should have gone away because its the first time adam has smelled clean crisp air before

>>712891573
>most game journos dont even bother playing games to full completion
to be fair very often they can't, they get the game a few days or less before having to get the article out while having to do other shit for the publisher they work at
not saying this to cover their asses, but it's also largely the industry's fault

>>712891634
>he thinks the piss polloution hasnt covered the whole earth

>>712891893
>Adam you dont understand, the crystals are everywhere

>>712887552 (OP)
No sequel, otherwise MD is a step up in every way that matters.

>>712887552 (OP)
I liked the fashion being renaissance inspired, very fancy all around. Haven't played part 2 since it seems it ends on a cliffhanger and in that case it's best to wait for the full release.

>>712892209
>best to wait for the full release.
Not gonna happen.

>>712887626
aside from the writing, that is

>>712887552 (OP)
Mankind Divided is some of their best work in terms of pure gameplay. Plot wasn't satisfying
>HR deeply integrates transhumanism into everything they do
>But they wanted to do a mechanical apartheid plot
>Dissect the story, leave the ending of HR1 a mystery instead of picking an ending
>Feels disconnected as a result

I just didn't buy that augmented people were an entirely different race, given how clearly the first game established it as a societal trend. But there they were, outright saying 'racism' to describe the discrimination at work. It's one of those things that doesn't feel right but most people won't be able to say why.

Which is a pity, because some of the setups and payoffs it did were great

Combat controls are somewhat weird on PC
Persuasion system isn't very intuitive
MD is too short
Silenced pistol and tranq rifle make other weapons obsolete outside of boss fights.

>>712892209
MD is esily 30 hours long if you explore everything and do the sidequests. Worth playing even when the main story doesn't get fully resolved, which probably would have been some asspull to connect it to DX1 anyway.

Now that I think about it, the supporting cast was way weaker in MD.
There's a good reason they brought back Pritchard in DLC, because he was cool and memorable and felt connected to Jensen. Vega? All anyone cared about Vega was she got blackwashed. Your commander Jim was cool but he was just the boss figure, just one part of the ensemble. The only other friendly character I remember is the therapist who ended up being ||Page's mole||. It always felt like a intermediary group, like Jensen's coworkers in a job he was gonna quietly ditch after a year or two

No wonder people got happy over the little scene implying Malik's alive and well

>>712892348
it came out during "that" era when woke stuff was very subtle.
I even saw this subtleness in skyrim's plot.
I found it to be retarded back then and just thought that we are getting a wave of fresh inexperienced writers.
oh how wrong I was.

>>712892631
Y'know, maybe it's for the best that we leave it for another five years before starting on a new Deus Ex

>>712887552 (OP)
I thought it was a spin-off/dlc so I just didnt care

>>712896036
How did you get that impression?

>>712887552 (OP)
It was good, not the best, but good. However, the art style was god damn good.

MD was literaly half a game, it was good but fuck me if it wasn't jaring to get to the guy who had all the tells of being the the pawn of someone else and the game just ending there

>>712896661
This was the real nail in the coffin, as it's a vibe that permeated through the marketing. Squeenix wanted to milk it with DLC expansions instead of letting the devs make a satisfying story for the base game. The guy you fight is the most they could do, but no one really cared, because we all knew he was an intermediary fight. Jensen's beef isn't with him, it's with the Illuminati, but we don't get to touch them in the base game and we clearly were never going to

SEX WITH DELARA AAAAAAA

As much as the aug ability is expanded in MD, I'm pretty salty that the weapon varieties are stagnant. Most, if not all of them are weapons from HR and it's not even a complete selection either.

>>712887552 (OP)

Square Enix, as always