I wish actually good developers would get a crack at The Fallout IP instead of the shitty Bethesda slop that we keep getting stuck with

>>712899370 (OP)
Because of New Vegas, Bethesda will never allow another developer to take a crack at making a great Fallout game. A once great IP ruined

1>4>nv>2>3

>>712899370 (OP)

>>712899370 (OP)
We will never get a good Fallout game again

currently listienging:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1P5s-NoTTAM

music was always a driving creative force behind fallout, the music actually came first.
3>NV>4

>>712899370 (OP)
>wish actually good developers
Such as? Bethesda was never going to work with Obsidian again after Obsidian retarded management tried to sue them.

>>712899473
awful bait. Poojeets need better material.

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>>712899473
>A once great IP ruined
It was only great when Bethesda made 3.

>>712900415
This is what I'm talking about. I wish that Bethesda would license out their Fallout IP along side their tech so that we can get more true Fallout kino. Bethesda has such a customizable engine and decent to good art design but their gameplay/game design/writing is absolute dogshit. Basically I want the good aspects of Elder scrolls and Nu-Fallout but remove the shitty retarded baby game design shit that Todd Howard loves to put in his games because he thinks most players are retarda

>>712901107
nah man, wasn't Fallout 4 so good when the Railroad's super secret password was 'Railroad'?

>>712900763
Capitalize your posts next time, turd worlder.

>>712900326
Kino. F3 and F4 just play the same beep a boppity boopity beepity shit. Plus I absolutely fucking hate F4's radio host with a passion (yes I know you can get him to be more confident. He still ends up sounding like a faggot anyways). One thing I'll criticize about New Vegas's host is the lore addition of him being an AI which sounds fucking stupid and soulless. I wish he was an actual human character. Kind of ruins him for me

>>712900829
>Was only great when pajeetout 3 came out

>>712901286
cry moar, poostain

>>712899370 (OP)
I'm glad I love Bethesda's Fallout

>>712901107
>I wish that Bethesda would license out their Fallout IP
Obsidian ruined that trust. As long as that retard Feargus is still, no one will ever touch Fallout.

>>712901727
Most only know about Fallout because of 3. And the Classicfags love to act like BoS didn't happen.

>>712903231
yeah if you love horrible maps like Fallout 4 which is almost 50% ocean (which you cant do anything in because Bugthesda can't into vehicles) and horrible writing (Father has his son kidnapped, finds a man called 'Father' who turns out to be the Father's Son).
Bugthesda is pure absolute shite.

>>712903874
>Bugthesda can't into vehicles
where have you been?

>>712899370 (OP)
Obsidian has become just as bad if not worse than Bethesda.

I haven't disliked any of the fallout games they're not the worst things I've played

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>>712899564
You had me at 1 then lost me immediately. What the fuck is wrong with you? It's supposed to be 1>nv>3>REDDIT2>4

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>>712899370 (OP)
>actually good developers
do good devs even exist today?

>>712904030
Obsidian has always been worse than Bethesda.

>>712904259
It's actually 4>3>1>NV>2>76

>>712899370 (OP)
it's been 15 years since fallout new vegas, both guys that were responsible for making that game interesting (Sawyer and Avallone) left over a decade ago, and they have been making nothing but mid-at-best games ever since. let go

>>712900763
How was anything he posted bait? Are you projecting again, Ramesh?

>>712904049
You aren't allowed to like Bethesda Fallout on /v/.

>>712903810
More like New Vegas fans ruined it. Todd and Bethesda getting constant messages about how shitty their RPGs and Fallout games are compared Obsidian cause them to get protective over the IP to the point where they will never let anyone borrow it again. They probably regret ever giving it to Obsidian

>>712905328
>They probably regret ever giving it to Obsidian
They don't, it doesn't help that those retards at Interplay tried to sue Bethesda Softworks for failing to meet the funding deadline that they agreed to with the "Fallout MMO' title that never released. And that fag Feargus trying to sue Bethesda over a contract that Obsidian had already agreed to and signed.

Chris is a pedo but he's right, Todd is a massive hack and is the reason why they've fucked up Fallout and Starfield

>>712904030
Outer Worlds 2 looks good except for the 80$ price tag. Outer Worlds 1 kind of sucked. What's funny is how it kept trying to remind you that it was made by the devs of FNV yet it copied F4 more than NV

>>712899370 (OP)
I played Fallout 1 after I finished Fallout 3. I loved 3 and wanted to explore Fallout more.
The thing was Fallout 1 is turn based. I am not a retard and don't need training wheels. No wonder the IP was ded and forgotten when Bethesda saved it.

>>712905640
>and is the reason why they've fucked up Fallout and Starfield
>Fallout is now a multibillion dollar IP
>fucked up
pls go back to playing the outer worlds

>>712905065
Sawyer is still at Obsidian, he just didn't work on Avowed or Outer Worlds

>>712906712
>he just didn't work on Avowed or Outer Worlds
then what the hell is he doing there? twiddling thumbs and replying to tweets?

>>712899370 (OP)
Nevada Team and some other modders are the best devs the IP has gotten

>>712899564
nobody on this board has played 1 or 2
prove me wrong

>>712906712
Are they working on another IP besides Outer Wilds and Avowed then?

>>712905640
Avellone is pro-Howard, the issue is with the people who are both above and below him.

>>712907036
Todd is the reason why he got shitty dumb down attributes and rpg mechanics in Fallout 3. He's also literally the guy responsible for the retarded deathclaw minigun scene in the beginning of 4. He clearly thinks most players are retarded

>>712906894
here's one of my screenshots
>two more weeks

>>712905137
New Vegas is being copied and pasted into the show by Bugthesda as we speak, stupid Poojeet Brownpant. Bugthestard is unable to worldbuild and relies soley on nostalgia and 50's imagery.

>>712906894
I have, they are mid

>>712906609
>ignores Fallout 76's disasterous launch and pathetic fanbase
but the green arrow WENT UP! WINNING!

>>712899370 (OP)
>shartsidian
how is outerworlds going? game sucked so hard it made FO4 look like GOTY

>>712908916
well it at least got a sequel lol

>>712905328
What’s hilarious is 3 was always a better game than new vegas. What new vegas did better was the DLC which is 10/10. 4 isn’t bad but a downgrade on most things like the map, questing, exploring, having interesting characters, etc.

>>712901107
>F4
>decent to good art design
Anon, I

>>712899370 (OP)
Bestheda got mad that people liked their third party spinoffs more than their own games.

>>712908671
>green arrow WENT UP
Yes Anon. That's all that matters. Making money is a positive for a business.

>>712906821
Playing the smart game and staying away from the "big" titles at Obsidian

>>712910137
>people liked
It didn't show in sales

>>712910464
lol you have this saved on your computer

>>712909602
>decent to good art design
Compared to the other games yes

>>712909528
NV had better combat, writing, and quests than 3, the only thing it didn't do as well was the map but at least it didn't make you go through tunnels to navigate it.

>>712909528
>better DLC
Nah 3 had better DLC, Pitt and Point Lookout mog all of NV DLC

>>712910910
>NV had better combat
is there even a difference?

>>712911205
I think he means the iron sights and different ammo types

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>>712911254
That and the changes to the armor system, weapons and the clearly defined weapon tiers, cazadors as a filter.

>>712909528
>3 was always a better game than new vegas
absolutely not. What a horrible take. New Vegas has better writing all around, no joke, and more quests. More factions, more mechanics, more weapons, it really is insane how many things Obsidian wanted to do with a spin-off that was working with Fo3 assets.

>>712910339
what we're talking about is the quality of the games, retard. Why are you even posting if you don't care about the game's quality? Oh, and Fallout 76 WOULD have made waaay more money if BUGTHESTARD didn't release an utterly busted piece of shit microtransaction-filled asset flip.

>>712912436
>muh quality
money doesn't care about your feelings

>>712910770
that end product looks like vomit. Idk why Bethesda was so afraid to drain some color out of the city. It's been over 200 fucking years anyway.

>>712912986
>Idk why Bethesda was so afraid to drain some color out of the city
Because people bitched about the green filter in 3 and the orange filter in New Vegas.

>>712911803
>writing
Reddit tier thing to prioritize. nv absolutely does not have better quests, its extremely linear and you can get to new vegas like 1 hour into the game and finish it or get to the last Mr house quests within a day. the exploring as well as the map itself is a downgrade to 3, there’s little to immerse yourself in besides the vaults.
>more factions
the only one with depth is the brotherhood quest line. the rest are half baked.
>more weapons
only real thing it might have over 3, except the combat itself isn’t that unique, because of the map a lot of times you’re fighting enemies just in the open so it becomes extremely repetitive. Not to mention the lazy cop out of placing cazador and deathclaw areas in convenient places so you don’t progress through the game too quickly.

New Vegas would've been a stinky pile of shit of Bethesda didn't give them a completed game and assets to work with.
And after the Outer Worlds and Avowed, I have no idea why anyone would interested in a TES/Fallout spin-off these days.

>>712913293
they shouldn't have caved. I am one of the few people who dont sperg out at crap like that; as long as the game overall looks alright then i dont care. I dont like Fo3 but i don't care how green it is.

>>712912891
spoken like a true goyim

>>712904641
Yes his name is Emil Pagliarulo

>>712913891
>good writing is reddit
wew lad

>>712908051
>He clearly thinks most players are retarded
Based. He is correct

>>712913293
Honestly a big redpill is that fallout/elder scrolls games are all extremely ugly looking. You can defend that as it being a part of the tone for the games but still, they’re actually hideous from an aesthetic or artistic point of view. only skyrim somehow was saved from this fate

>>712914529
I said to prioritize it over other things in a game is reddit. these people aren’t writing novels in their spare time, why would you care so much about it especially in Bethesda games.

>>712915013
>why would you care so much about it especially in Bethesda games
because i dont want to feel second hand embarrassment for the dogshit writing while trying to play a good game