>even big companies are now using AI for their games

it's so over

>>712904054 (OP)
>chink company uses chinky tactics
>OP is surprised by this

>>712904054 (OP)
I've never played a gacha in my life

>>712904054 (OP)
gachashart fans will gladly eat it up

what am i missing here?

>>712904054 (OP)
This is clearly hand-drawn.

>>712904054 (OP)
Is she for (me) or not? barely any waifu in Amphoreus.

>>712904178
Hysilens basically looks a lot like a combination of their older characters from Xianzhou.

Why are almost all HSR designs shit?

Railtards, you're supposed to be excited for Squirt tomorrow.

>>712904358
Anon, that's just hoyo creative bankruptcy.

>>712904054 (OP)
>A third Mei has hit the Honky Star Tower

Honkeks banking ZZZ while eating the development breadcrumbs.

>>712904358
Cos she's Raiden Mei again. Not saying that as a criticism. She's literally a Raiden Mei variant.

>>712904054 (OP)
What AI?

>>712904503
I already have Ayaka though.

>>712904054 (OP)
She's like Sushang, Seele, and Jingliu rolled into one.

>>712904054 (OP)
For those who don't play this game, the context is that the girl is supposed to be from not!Greece.

>>712904784
To be fair she's as greek as any other characters of Amphoreus, as in, not at all. At most Aglaea looks like a character designed by someone else vaguely describing to the artist what greek clothes are without them actually researching it themselves.

>>712904178
nothing, anti-AI schizos are just completely losing their marbles lately and seeing AI in everything.
even if they were right - if you need to analyze each individual pixel to figure out if it's AI or not, then what difference does it make?

>>712904054 (OP)
>Gachafags get what they deserve
Based

>>712904970
>if you need to analyze each individual pixel to figure out if it's AI or not, then what difference does it make?
Because they will charge you like a human made it? Are you stupid? Do you like being scammed?

>>712904054 (OP)
Mindbroken, this made me realize if fate came out nowadays people would call every single saber clone, AI

mihomo has been using AI for a while lol
you have standards now though?

>>712905041
it's a free game you mongoloid, they aren't charging you anything

>>712904784
I prefer this rather than what the west does desu
Ths man is supposed to be greek btw

>>712905118
>mihomo has been using AI for a while
>[citation needed]

>>712904178
it's just twittertrannies completely mindbroken by AI
thankfully they are all going to get replaced from their jobs

>>712905119
Moving goalposts.

I was explaining why it matters if a picture is AI or not, regardless if you can tell or not. It's literally scamming, it's like selling a mass-produced chair like it was hand-carved and charge more for it.

>>712904514
Well yeah. Hence why it's the joke. They've been copying themselves for so long that people can't tell the difference between their original work vs AI.

>>712905154
His citation is that he feels like it is AI therefore it is.

>>712904503
I already have Jingliu tho

>>712904906
Yeah, that's another reason Amorpheus is such a shit planet. it wants to pretend to be Space Greece themepark but then all the gacha characters are wearing whatever random shit Chinese artist thought looks cool. It's the same as jRPGs where all the knights are wearing platemail armor but then the Protagonist is wearing a ripped t-shirt and acidwashed black jeans with meticulously gel'd hair.

>>712905223
on the one hand they'll rant about how AI can only create uninspired slop that all looks the same or is incorrect and so on anyway
on the other hand they want it banned because it's going to steal their jobs from them
completely unhinged, kek

If you told me it was AI I'd believe you, it's like 5 different characters melded together
Mihoyo lost their touch

>>712904614
>Banking ZZZ

>less cutscenes
>TV replacement still not actually there
>Less comics
>Less out of combat animations
>Less side quests/commissions
>5 months of filler
lmao where.

>>712905415
You just described every other hoyo character

>AIkeks completely missing the joke
Stupid pajeets, every time.

>>712904906
>>712905369
the HSR character artists were NOT prepared to make characters that're meant to look like they're from different countries and you can really tell

>>712905154

>>712905150
I mean the costume looks fine.

>>712904054 (OP)
It's not AI, the character designers are just already bored with Amorpheous like the rest of us and are half assing the characters so the director will finally let this shitty planet end

>I was merely pretending to be retarded

>>712904054 (OP)
all of genshin already looks ai generated

>>712904970
Nice try, Chang.

takes a machine to make the most soulless designs ever so mihoyo has always used ai

>>712905539
HSR had Belebog, the Luofu, and the space station with characters that looked unique to each, then Penacony came and the 1920's flapper style for everyone worked. But now they're given "ancient greek myth" for their scifi game and they just don't have any inspiration. Cipher was a lucky hit but the rest are so boring

>>712905693
>Cipher was a lucky hit
Least successful character so far btw. Might be the worst selling female character of the game's entire history.

>>712905539
Aglaea and Tribbie are clearly inspired by Greek outfits.
Mydei could probably get away as being Spartan inspired. Cipher fits in fairly well, too. Same for Phainon.

It's Hyacine, Anaxas and Castorice that don't really look Greek themed.

>>712905795
I was interested until they nerfed her to fuck and made her require her weapon to function, and if I just wait a month Silverwolf is going to get buffed and be better than Cipher anyway.

>>712905693
What? Cipher doesn't look greek either and she is actually the lowest selling Amphoreus character. Yes, she's selling even less than Anaxa.

>>712904784
She fucking looks like she's from Space China. Shit like this is why I'm glad I dropped it after getting Firefly during her first drop. I always wondered how much Xianzhou glazing is actually state mandated.

>people who don't even know the game talking about the game like they know everything
yep it's /v/ alright

>>712905795
unfortunate combination of them putting her between two characters that probably draw way more interest, nerfing her pre-release, and CCs shilling as her existing solely to run her with Acheron, when most people want to run one of their newer DPS instead.
I thought she had the most interesting story twist out of Amphoreus so far

>>712905885
That's being extremely generous to those 3. They are only inspired by greek outfits in the most lightly way possible and more by the impression people have of greeks from media than actual greek costumes.

>Amerimutt complains about some chinese game
>His complaint is that the characters aren't diverse enough
This will never stop being funny no matter how many times i read it

>>712904054 (OP)
They arr roock the same

>>712906120
>more by the impression people have of greeks from media than actual greek costumes.
because 20 characters in a toga would not exactly be interesting.

>>712905415
I wouldn't, the design is extremely unoriginal yes, but that's just HSR in a nutshell, the drawing itself seems hand made at least.
Nikke is the actual AI slop game.

DOES THAT CHARACTER LOOK LIKE SOMEONE ELSE? IT'S CLEARLY AI

>>712906050
it's not much better on /vg/ sadly.
the only time the majority in the thread actually plays the game is in the lull between patches, when people are busy shitposting one of the other two games right now

>>712906197
There's way more to greek clothing than white chitons.

>>712904906
shut the fuck up, Mydeimos looked good

>>712906306
are you one of those troons who whined about Natlan characters not looking Mesoamerican enough? kek
>uhhh, ackschually...

>>712906259
AI generated game

>Cipher
>Looking like a Greek
You Kot coomers are so braindead lmao

>>712904054 (OP)
Chink don't even need AI to do that. You are witnessing first hand on how creatively bankrupt chinese are. They only get so far because they have a good example they can copy from and artificially expose their product to mainstream. They are a cunning piece of shit that gets all the money but not the fame.

>>712906436
my greek heroes

>>712904054 (OP)
this looks lazy as hell, holy shit.

>>712906374
I think if you're going to make a region in a game inspired by something, then don't half-ass it, at least make an attempt. If you don't like the source-material you're working with then... just don't work with it?

No idea about Natlan tho, never played Genshin, can't stand open world, but making a region based on mesoamericans sounds like a terrible idea to begin with.

>>712906661
its not inspired by greece you retard, play the fucking game, it's a simulation which is just stolen from elysium realm

>>712906748
>its not inspired by greece

>>712906748
>characters named after greek mythology figures
>not inspired by greece

>>712904054 (OP)
"ZAWEI, WE ARE RUNNING OUT OF NEW CHARACTER FOR OUR MONTHLY DUAL BANNER GACHASHIT."
"HOLD MY RICE WINE, CHANK GPT GENERATE ME A RANDOM CHARACTER!"

>>712906824
>>712906854
ah yes just like greece

>>712906854
>greek mythology figures
Greek history, too. Anaxagoras was a philosopher, Lycurgus was the most based politician who ever lived, &c.

>>712906748
>amphoreus is so bad at depicting greeks even the anon playing devil's advocate gave up on that argument

>>712905223
They could always be tracing AI, nobody would know.

>>712906824
>>712906854
>>712906934
So you are telling me Final Fantasy is inspired by Arabian Mythology just because the names are the same?

>>712906928
Yeah the previous patch literally had us participate in a public debate just like Aristotles and Socrates did. Anyone who thinks Amorpheus isn't supposed to be a Greek stand in are braindead shills who have lost the plot.

>>712906748
It's ok anon, brainlets don't know about elisya kino.

>>712906891
They are alternate universe variants of the same person, so... yeah...

>>712906957
>nobody would know.
And now do you realize how retarded this witch hunting is?

>>712907067
Nigga are you fucking braindead?

>>712907067
>Strawmanning this hard
*slurp slurp slurp* WHOS a good goi? WHOS a good goi?
Yes YOU are YES you are.

>>712907067
Final Fantasy summon names are taken from all sorts of different places rather than a being a singular theme, retard-kun.

I think someone miss type the prompt from greek to chink.

>>712907147
She mindbroke millions.

>>712907287
kek

I love Greek women

>>712907342
>>712906891
Keep trying, you might get a match

>>712907342

honkucks don't actually enjoy playing video games. Try having a conversation with one of these dumb zoomers, all their complaints about Genshin are retarded shit that basically boils down to "I don't wanna have to actually play the game".

>>712904054 (OP)
>this is supposed to be a knight commander
Doesn’t look like one, cringe

HSRfags can't go more than 24 hours without thinking about Genshin, it's mental illness

>>712904054 (OP)
i play this shit game and the designs just get sloppier and sloppier. they have invite money why is it so hard for them to make a good character design?

why hoyo make kevin suffer in every universe?

>>712907067
Are you actually retarded

>Play Genshin for 2-3 years
>"I'm really disappointed this game didn't turn out the way I wanted it to. The rewards are shit, there's no endgame, I hate exploration, I hate the minigames, I hate this stupid story, I hate the tropey characters, I HATE THIS GAME!!! AHHH!"
>"Hoyo and Genshin devs have treated their playerbase like shit for years. But..."

>Honkai: Star Rail releases
>"Oh my god, I love this game so much! It's the best mobile game EVER! Oh my god, it's got amazing combat, the characters are so cool, it's so well written!"
>"The game has pretty much the same amount of playtime as Genshin, the same amount of mini-game bloat, the same poorly written story (Looking at you, Loufu), the same character anime tropes (but cranked up to 11 instead, haha Trailblazer likes to sift through garbage!) and the same 2 week cycle of "endgame". But it's SOOO much better than Genshin! Fuck I LOVE HOYOVERSE Now!!! HECK YEA!"
This is your average HSR player. The game lives on cope and deflection away from all it's flaws, simply because the playerbase says "Well, at least it's not Genshin!" Now they give money to Hoyo still, even tho in their eyes Hoyo treated them like garbage for 2-3 years while they played Genshin, they'll turn around and still put full trust in the same company, all because they make up stupid head canon garbage and think nobody in Hoyo talks to eachother from either dev team, and that somehow Dawei, David Jiang and Cai Haoyu are all doing their own thing and blindly making decisions... lmao.

>>712907508
Because the good designers all moved to ZZZ.
>but why do new ZZZ characters also look like shit?
Because the good designers all moved to uhh umm to uh

>>712907414
????
Are you dumb? shit literally looks like their overused chink design. >>712907416
This one is far better none of their old shit looks like this at all.

>>712907519
It is ok he will find Acheron or pela and everything will be fine

HSR players excuse is "Well I can just skip characters I don't like!" as if you can't also do the same in Genshin... The playerbase for HSR has always been coped up retards and it will never change.

>>712907519
The white man's burden.

>>712907598
do you know what the concept of an expy is?

Double standards are my favorite thing by far in honkai

A honkai poster can spend years shitting on genshin communities and it's based but if anyone ever dares to imply genshin is better in a honkai community or makes a reference to genshin then all hell breaks loose

>Talk about how the game needs more content and to reinvest more money onitself
>AIEEEEEEEEEEEE ITS THE XSCHIZO

>>712907664
5 and 6 are possibly the same Bronya.

>>712907583
the pokemon game

>>712907583
i think this happens with every one of their games. most hoyo designs aren't my cup of tea in general, but at launch the designs are less cancerous. less patterns, belts, badges and frills and other noise. zzz probably has the better designs but it was also the game i quit the fastest
>Because the good designers all moved to uhh umm to uh
surely we're going to get some kino designs in that new pokemon clone they're making i doubt it

>>712905912
>>712905795
HSR Players are metatards if a character isn't meta they won't roll

>>712907147
Why does that look like a LoL character?

how come that anyone that ever has a complaint about honkai is automatically a schizo?

>>712907664
>muh expy
I don't care about it you dumb fuck, I'm talking about the overall clothing design.
none of your image on the top looks similar with the bottom.
How the fuck a notgreek character looks like a fucking chink in term of design and a fucking overused one too.

>>712907809
Sadly this is due to the game design.
If the character isn't meta you aren't keeping up with the powercreep.

>>712905795
>worst selling female character of the game's entire history.
That will always be Fofo.

>>712907814
because it is a skin for ashe, the guy who won the champion is an elysia fag and wanted his waifu in LoL

>games arent allowed to have content because muh fomo!!!!!
oh fuck off and die
trannies like you are why gaming is so garbage these days

>>712904054 (OP)
MHY has had an internally trained AI for at least two years now.
This specific character is just an overly offensive example of the limits of their modelling.

>>712906436
My fuarking heroes Phainon and Cyrene

>>712907814
>Riot invented bows and capes
I thought the same

>>712907825
because they are not greek? nigga go look up kevin and elysia

If you genuinely think the future trajectory of HSR is to grow in popularity and cultural relevance from this point on you have worms in your brain
Launch was and always will be its highest point and it will keep bleeding players from that peak because its gameplay loop is hot garbage

>Anon says he wants to try the game
>Shills come out in full force trying to sell the game and pretend its some super generous JRPG
Holy fuck
Never seen such a bigger concentration of blatant shills outside of biz

this is the ultimate hoyogroomer anchor post
>is it too late to play? who should i roll?
i hate hoyogroomers so fucking much

>>712906436
Hua expy when?

>>712907962
Cool, you still ignoring my question about reusing shitty chink design.
We are not allowed to critized this shit game or what?
The whole sterallon hunter faction are less creatively bankrupt than all these chink shit.

>>712907560
it's amazing how easily people are won over by not needing to actually play the game

Honkfags are like the swifties of gacha, they'll defend everything the company does and hunt down anyone that says anything bad

>>712907664
I know, its a lazy excuse for them to reuse designs that their fans slurp up

do you people get paid or do you do it for free
I have never seen a game get more agressively shilled than Star Rail

>The story is soo good bro the director is a Trails fan!
Uh... i don't think this is the win you think this is bud.

>>712907664
using same characters =/= using the same shitty design.
Does Acheron used the same clothing like this?

>>712908249
nobody says the hsr story is good thankfully

>>712908106
2 of the stellaron hunters are expys

Honkai is a yuri game with the most obnoxious and elitist fanbase you've ever fucking seen that don't waste a second to tell you how they're better than every JRPG and MMO

>>712904054 (OP)
>Honk Honk Star Periphery company
>big company

>>712908304
none of them looks alike beside the face because they don't used the same clothing design.

>>712908263
you are truly lost friend

>>712907664
>Guys we made a term for "copy pasted" character so it's valid now.

how come no one ever complains or deletes honkai threads

>>712908290
Oh you will be shocked if you go looking

>>712908384
>retard didn't know the term expy
bro... don't out yourself as a tourist like that

still doesnt explain why no one ever complains about honkai threads
thing is an autobatter with a tranny fanbase that gets like 10 threads a day but no one says anything

>>712908383
>post a character with multiple clothing designs making her looks fresh
keep shooting yourself anon, we all laughing here.
Meanwhile OP image looks like a ruanmei and jinglie vomit combined.

nice meltdown

they deserve it honestly
saw the hsrg cucks bragging about how they're much better than XIV because their game respects their time

>>712908382
>none of them looks alike
did you miss this or something? >>712907664

>>712908383
Where's Pela?

Still laughing how honkcucks kept complaining about "Homos" in genshin so they put actual homos in HSR

>>712908532
Yes, you missed I was complaining about the shitty clothing design, it chink shit all over again and a reused one.
Did you missed this comment you fucking retard? >>712907598

>>712908462
It's ok because there's hot girls and the jannies "play" this game

>>712908550
in my bed

>>712904054 (OP)
Anyone remember when someone used Ai and won a Genshihn community art contest? That shit was so fucking funny, artists were FUMING and got the guy banished from the event.

I think it happened in some Nintendo Pokemon contest too.

>>712908383
bottom middle isn't even drawn by mihoyo lol

Play Genshin Impact instead

It's way better and has real gameplay instead of the autobattle HSR has

>>712908607
>stellaron hunters are unique
>kafka and silver wolf are just copy paste expy
truly genius

>>712908672
Natlan killed Genshin

>>712908461
You can't be this retarded man.

>>712908630
art contest winners always ended up being tracers, makes sense it would evolve to sloppers

I just like turn based games. why is there a meltdown in the thread lol

>>712908383
there is a new one on ZZZ

>>712904906
That's because the entire 3.0 shit probably got last minute changed to Greek wankery. It was blatantly supposed to be Arthurian Romance but some chink got assblasted when a leaker predicted that based off the not-kevins appearance. Everyone fits some character from that shit, even down to their role in building up the not-MC(kevin). I think we are only missing the green nigger and the bastard son now.

>>712908689
none of their uniform design looks similar that's the fucking point, we don't need another shitty reused chink template over and over again.
Even Fate alter looks fucking fresh than this shit.

The double standards are so funny to watch

this is funny because everyone shilled star rail as the "Straight Man's game" at launch then it ended up gayer than anything Genshin could ever do for both the girls and guys

>>712904970
>what difference does it make
AI is an insult to life.

>>712908714
True, Natlan was so fucking bad

>>712908776
not new, not ever coming out

>>712908630
>accidentally draw 6 fingers
>people now think it's AI generated
even on disney snow white times they would draw 6 or even 4 fingers accidentally lmao

>Genshin adds a brawler man with a brawler that has canonically killed people before and comes close to doing so on screen again
>HOMO GAME HOMO GAME GAAAAAYYYYYYYYYY

>Honkai adds a male sex slave with CG and an entire patch dedicated to his sob story

I don't want to play this homosexual game anymore.

Honktards could honestly give blizzdrones a run for their money

>>712908824
Natlan was so based

>>712908794
yeah anon I am sure silver wolf is very unique

>>712904054 (OP)
chinese companies have to watermark anything thats AI, its the law

>>712908875
I found this a while ago which made me laugh because this artist is one of the most high profile heavy users of of AI for art. But he drew this before AI art was a thing kek

play a real RPG then instead of autobattle gachatrash

>>712908998
cool now post, 12 of them in the same game. >>712906223

>>712909040
bro was already using AI on his mind

>>712909037
>chinese companies have to watermark anything thats AI,
not yet they don't

>>712909056
i have already played them and hsr is fun so calm down

Star Rail threads really do feel like they're filled with shills with how the posters in these threads try to pretend it's some groundbreaking gacha or the best JRPG of the decade when it's just a shitty autobattler that invested too much in graphic and fancy effects but forgot to invest in content or gameplay

>>712908875
remember this classic image of mitsuru with 3 fucking legs? amazing what errors artists make all the damn time

>>712909067
you can just look up honkai expy anon, it's not that hard

>>712909153
three legs

>>712909092
I'm also a fan of 6 fingers. It's lore friendly in real life, when you are Nephilim pilled and such. Sometimes AI generates 6 fingers and they all look beautiful too, it feels wrong to fix them sometimes.

>>712909164
yanqing is the older buffed bearded dude lol

yeah bro autobattling every fight was really an amazing gaming experience why cant more devs do this
I loved having to slog through reddit humor and pop culture references before hitting the auto again and OMG STELLE TALKED ABOUT TRASHCANS AGAIN XD

>>712908998
>Two looks alike character from two different games.
vs
>multiple character wearing the same chink template design
not trolling here, are you just bored and want to start this retarded discussion or just a fucking hoyo shill.

>>712904054 (OP)
>>712904095
>>712909037
>Anon is too stupid to see art
That’s not AI

>>712904054 (OP)
>"""people""" pay a ton for these soulless AI same face characters
kek

whats the point of arguing with a braindead shill that thinks a 2-button autobattler is the peak of gaming? only thing you deserve is a lmao retard

>>712909190

>>712909164
Anon, again you are dumb as fuck I never care about having expy character.
What I care is they keep using the same luofu shitty template on every new characters.

Play some real videogames
Please

The last thing this board needs is some kid who's first game was hoyoshit and thinks its peak gaming

>>712909215
We can't even tell anymore.

>>712909227
Is that really all of them? Damn that's bad, I remember the initial cast had some alright designs but it stopped then apparently.

>>712907664
You forgot the original from GGZ.

>>712909227
>>712909347
You literally can download the free MMD 3D models. They are not AI stupid.

its at the bottom of gacha systems and every other game constantly mocks HSR for having braindead autobattle gameplay that gets powercreeped every patch

>>712909227
I'm sorry for saying bad things about Natlan.

>>712909164
They're adding Sushang to ZZZ

Game is an absolute insult to RPGs as a whole that degrades a fun genre into mindless daily chores and every fun thing being locked behind microtransactions for a CHANCE of unlocking that fun thing

why is there a single guy melting down on cooldown here? kek

>>712908807
still better than modern art

other games existing doesnt make it better
Star Rail has been out for barely a year and every new char powercreeps whatever came before them already

>>712909527
looks more like hua

The entire game after you're caught up in a week or two is just logging in, doing a couple calyxes or relic caverns and logging out because the "Character building" is farming that characters specifically designated RNG gears and the teambuilding is whaling for new powercreep or coping with handouts and pretending they're any good or fun

>>712909570
it's always this way on hsr threads, I refuse to believe someone is schizo enough for this, must be a bot

>>712909227
1.0 is literally full of soul. What the fuck is going on with this game?
Almost half of the characters just look like different color variants.

I’m just gonna play Limbus and Arknights and laugh at the mongoloids that play this slop

Tranny game. 99% of the playerbase of this game is trans

>>712909348
cute kiana, saved

>>712909620
anon... it's been well over two years

I agree that slop is horrible overused but it really is a good descriptor for Honkai. Everything from the writing to the character designs to the gameplay is done in the most safe, mass consumption style possible.
Nothing is genuinely bad, but nothing is remarkable either. There’s no texture or flavor to anything about Mihoyo games.

>>712909620
Meanwhile in Genshin you can still use 5 year old characters and clear just fine

>>712904054 (OP)
Artists have always been using AI, or 3D, or tracing, or photobashing.
Anyone who had been doing any of the above would be able to spot them.
Only newbie artists are the ones sperging the most about any <tool> that they deemed as cheating

And I thought all schizos stayed in /hsrg/.

>>712909749
1.0 are 70% expy

>>712904054 (OP)
How do you know that's AI?

Cant wait to see more trashcans in 3.0
Honkai is the definition of dragging a joke until it stops being funny

>>712909847
The other hoyo games are alright to excellent but I agree that SR seems quite bad.

>>712909886
So...? make more of them instead of these shitty slops.
I don't even know who these expy are but at least they looks less boring than OP.

>entire thread is pure shitposting and two shills replying to themselves

so this is the power of the best JRPG of the decade......................

>>712909849
Genshin somewhat has the opposite problem where Bennett will forever be the best support in the game.

>>712910046
>problem
You can't have beny in all teams, including the upcoming where you need 3 teams ready.

>>712909227
What's with chink and their coat tails fetish?

>Another shitty chink character again.
>Still no Qipao
>its another samey shit design again.

wuwa lost

seeing people melting down over this game makes me want to try it

>>712910104
>including the upcoming where you need 3 teams ready.
You get all the relevant rewards (primos / artifact rolls) pretty easily
There's weapon skins for the whale tier difficulty but the weapon skins expire after 30 days so there's no point in getting them

>>712910328
Well then there's no point arguing about that dork then, because clearly you talking the game is easy enough even if you bench benny

>>712909227
I like how 1.0 has somewhat unique designs for each character then it all turns into generic dresses by the second half of 2.0.

>>712904970
>then what difference does it make?
They won't have yet another convenient thing to screech about and rally together against. The pic in the OP isn't even AI, it's probably inspired by an AI design worst case scenario.

The real cause of derivative designs is that every time a design doesn't conform to expectations or government(read:feminist) censorship, it gets axed, so they're playing it safe by creating the same character over and over again. The screechers don't seem to grasp the concept and think the Skynet is coming after them.
Regardless of whether it's AI or not, it's miles better than most westslop you see these days, which is why the screechers are here screeching instead of playing western games to begin with.

>>712910104
>where you need 3 teams ready.
oh damn I didn't know that, finally a reason to upgrade more characters lol
almost everyone I have is 1/1/1 and level 70+ because why bother upgrading anything

>>712905247
it's literally not scamming, that makes no fucking sense
it's art, it doesn't matter how it's made you use tools to make it
it's ALL cheating by your logic

>>712908807
and you can't even recognize it? you're an insult to life for being so pedantic

>>712910513
They know people like you exist so they also opt in a coop function.

>>712906436
Gacha games are AI generated without AI.

Cipher is the best thing that happened in Amphoreus and I spent money just to get her

>>712910598
I knew about that which is funny because my good friend only recently quit because he was tired of the game not getting new abyss and more QOL and the moment he quit we started getting tons of that lmao
I didn't know about 3 teams though, I'll probably be able to manage it especially since I'm getting skirk. looking forward to it now.

>>712904054 (OP)
Can you circle the AI parts or are we jumping at shadows again

Brappa

>>712910698
>control+f genshin
>21 matches
>in 237 posts
genshinfags are truly mindbroken

>>712910685
>Aglaea and Cipher are by far the hottest characters in Amorphous
>both set up to fail
I'm amazed they are even buffing Kafka with how much they seem to hate hags now. Knowing there will likely be a Firefly shill patch soon only makes me want to come back to the game less.

>>712908630
This is a mistake real people make too but I guess now you can use to get rid of competition.
It's pretty rare that the local models still make hands incorrectly, actually.

>>712909847
>Everything from the writing to the character designs to the gameplay is done in the most safe, mass consumption style possible.
people are currently sperging out because theyre killing off every character in the star rail story

>>712910781
Need more character like her, getting sick seeing girl in dress over and over again.

>>712910862
Depends on who they are killing. Like Aglaea dying would mean nothing to anyone, but I doubt they'd touch Hyacine.

>>712910796
I don't get it

>>712910796
almost all of those post shitting on genshit lmao.

>people who never played the game complaining e-celeb talkpoints
I thought /v/ was a critical independent thinker

>>712910796
>speedreader didn't even bother to read his search result.
no wonder this game getting skip button.

>>712910796
>HSRfags talking about being mindbroken by other games
Really now?

>>712911051
HAHAHAHAHAH EVEN SABER GETTING THE SHORT SKIRT VERSION, THIS GAME IS FUCKING DONE FOR.

>>712911051
>give the nigger away for free
the chinaman are funny people

>>712904054 (OP)
AI as a tool is not a bad thing
AI will never replace artists, AI is just a really great time saver.

Just accept it my man....

>>712910957
literally everyone except phainon is dead
aglaea was stabbed in the heart and pushed off a balcony
hyacine is transmogrified into a titan that is going to die to the black tide eventually
cipher and mydei were both stabbed through the torso and died in a cutscene where they were bleeding out
theyre going to come back as amphoreus is stuck in a cycle, but it's pretty neat to see gachaslop actually go this direction compared to something like genshin where there are zero stakes ever

>>712911146

>>712911172
>man who only ever played genshin think every gacha is like genshin

>>712911213
>reading comprehension.
>>712909227

>>712911160
>the 6th sense of the westoid: "I see black people"

>>712911268
are you acting retarded on purpose?

>>712910781
>what if we make a Naruto character but she's retarded?

>>712911341
read my post again about saber, this time read it slowly and see the shitty characters design image about this game that I quote.

>>712911262
theyre inherently comparable, no one plays blue archive

>>712911171
>AI will never replace artists
it already has

>>712911160
But hey, free is free, I'll fucking take it.

>>712911160
>has clearly no idea what fate is
>thinks he is black
I can't with nu /v/

>>712911461
everyone in this picture died >>712906436

Is exactly what you deserve for eating up the slop to begin with, enabling this sheer disinterest laziness and apathy in acquiring your money.

Should have been playing actual games the whole time.

>>712904054 (OP)
holy shit she looks beautiful

>>712911512
>reply to bait
fatefags are the lowest IQ like always

>>712904054 (OP)
>even big companies
of course theyre the main audience retard-kun
companies love to cut quality and save money.

>>712911051
>>712911146
Any reason why this game hates long skirt.
I was expecting at least one of Penacony or Amphoreus characters wear one considering it kinda fit their theme.

>>712905057
AI killed art and identity, and that was the intention. Everything is machine produced, nothing is real. If everything around you is fake, then you are no different.

>>712911862
I am sure AI is solely responsible for all the slop and not just corpos being greedy for the last 15 years

>>712911462
Artstyle will always created by artists. AI can only imitate

>>712911512
why does mihoyo hate genshin....

>>712911959
>t-the corpos
They naturally become soulless because of their inevitable goals, but they are only allowed to become that way as long as systems provide for it. The more tools there are for producing trash, the more you will be fed it.

I don't get why hoyo has to purposely make this game look like shit and they're not able to put equal amount of effort on all of their games? HSR had so much potential and patch 3.3 was already starting to look good, but they decided to release the blandest, most generic looking piece of shit character, then they'll wonder why HSR kept bleeding players.

Fuck them, fuck hoyoverse. If only there's a chink company who can produce a turn based game with a quality that's at par or better than HSR, I'll instantly jump ship.

>>712904054 (OP)
nice AI slop

>>712912014
Nonsense. Also an artist using AI will mean you don't need dozens of artists, meaning they got replaced by the tool.

>>712911745
Lazy (fujo) modeler hates clipping so they kick a shit when a girl has a skirt but wastes months doing any male characters coattails or gay sleeves "correctly"

>>712912236
Its a fucking turnbased game with zero real interaction in overworld, you can't even climb or jump how the fuck they can clip,
Shit like long cape or hair in this game is bound more clip hazard than a long skirt and every single one of them was made using static animation.

>>712904054 (OP)
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>712912390
all i see is sexo. not brown enough for you?

>>712912236
Remember how Genshin had that year where it was almost exclusively males and that they all had detailed crotchlines and whatever but the females didn't? Feels like whoever was responsible for that moved to HSR.

>>712912390
That MHY has been doing this for years yet only now do people seem to notice just makes you all look like retards y'know?

>>712912390
That girl on the left most is cute. Holy fuck post more pls

>>712912383
Glad that you see the problem, anon

>>712912535
she has a big sword

>>712912194
Exacly. AI only does a grunt work but never created a thing from zero

>>712912556
er...what?
the only problem is that how the fuck there's not a single girl with long dress, when they clearly got zero problem to be exist in this game since its not a fucking fighting game.
Feels like weird design choice.

>>712912519
It's probably that intern-now-fulltime who was interviewed back in 1.2 or so and gloated about putting thigh straps on every male character.

>>712912573
That's what makes her hot.

>>712904054 (OP)
Nice AI designs honktroonies

>>712912894
Wuwa doesn't even know if it wants to be coombait like ZZZ or not, at least hoyo games has consistencies

>>712912750
how did we go from this to this

>>712904054 (OP)

>>712909227

>>712904054 (OP)
I don't mind AI
problem is that these complete and utter imbecile lack the artistic inclination and the knowledge to properly use the tools to create good stuff
So we get trash most of the time
>T. Ai slooper that generated over 50k images

>>712913163
When you consider that her sword isn't even hers but a glorified training sword that her aunt is making her use, and she was able to fend off a mega juiced and pissed off powertripping Yung Chink for like an hour... that giant chick is just her holding back
5 star Shang is going to be crazy as hell in 6.0

>>712913625
>artslopper having an opinion about art and taste
kek

>>712912390
Can you stop copying our homework already?

>>712913449
some are hit and miss, specially the male design but at least none of them looks almost the same.
Imagine if every single mondstat girls looks like Jean or Noelle, this happen with most Fontaine girls.

>>712912390
impact 3 truly killed star rail, that elysia spammer was right.

>>712914187
>play game called mario
>get mad game is like mario

>>712904054 (OP)
I don't know about AI but I don't like that it's the same colorscheme as Seele, Acheron and Moze, don't they see an issue with this? At least make her dress monochrome or black and blue or something if she's sea themed.

>>712914313
luigi mansion is good, they dont shove mario in your throat, unlike impact 3 shoving their flops on star rail.

>>712913449
second bottom left girl looks like belong to star rail.

>>712914681
Yeah kek.

>>712904054 (OP)
Boy, somebody at Mihoyo really likes that one particular dress don't they.

>>712904054 (OP)
Factual rem in der

>>712914681
Now that you mention it, Gaming does too and both were released randomly and out of nowhere for the yearly Lantern Rite event. I guess they give those to their D team to do.

>>712914674
is luigi mansion called mario?

>>712914851
>gaming
Anon, none of Luofu male characters looks like gaming, every one of them looks like ready for war, not a break dance competition.

>genshin is such a failure they have to get our sloppy seconds
lmao

>>712915038
he looks super chinese like star rails

>>712915190
That's because he's a Chinese character duh.
meanwhile this design feels like star rail luofu template compare to the rest of liyue girls.

>>712904503
I don't have Coffee

>>712915190
Gaming looks like a modern hongkongers teenager who goes clubbing.

Why does this videogame make content creators seethe?

>>712914918
is based on the mario universe, ya dumb nigger.

>>712915545
answer the question

honkers will kill nintendo

>>712908021
they are gacha player, they are diagnosticated mentally insane alredy.

also i love how this fucking game steals art of everywhere, 7 of the characters are basically stolen from elsword kek

>>712912014
how did they create an art style
they were born with it?

>>712915845
DIvine portion of humanity. AI will never have it.

>>712904054 (OP)
Dactilographic r _e_ min de r

>>712915621
already did, you are in full damage control now.

>Create new path
>its literally just old paths with new name and restriction.
>old paths LC doesn't work with new path
Brilliant, easy 50mills each month for star rail.

Is there a character that can even use this cone?

>>712916870
I'm still pissed at how they nerfed Jing Yuan so much between beta and release, only to absolutely powercreep everyone anyway.

>>712912383
Play a real hoyoverse game like honkai impact 3rd. You can JUMP!

>>712914681
She’s a farmer, nothing about her speaks space.

>>712917090
>harmony
>increase atk and dmg
what were they thinking

>>712917618
another thread speedreader

>>712917618
I think anon talking about similarity with luofu girls design.

>>712904054 (OP)
AI is art.
And art must be legally protected.

>>712904054 (OP)
only the name and the imaginary letter above it look like ai, the art itself doesn't really look ai, as many have noted

>>712905795
>needs her cone
>banner pre phainon and fate
>never been as relevant as the other crysos heirs
>giga nerfed pre release
>biggest reason to pull her is so she can be a sidegrade support for a powercrept unit
cmon now, its not her fault and we all know it

>>712919898
At this point the biggest thing turning me off is how every character I find hot now ends up being shit. Not sure about Hysilens yet but if she ends up looking good in-game she probably won't save DoT.

>>712920380
like i always said. pull with your heart and dick, dont care about meta. if you follow this advice all your "problems" disappear.

>>712920454
>pull with your heart
>same boring hags design 24/7
>barely any cunny or short hebe anymore
>most of them are supports units
>multiple males are meta characters

>>712920454
Sure but when it's a consistent thing one may seek out alternatives that they feel treats them better.

>>712920648
>literally just got Tribbie and Hyacine who are both meta as fuck
>only one actual hag in the entirety of 3.x
Pedos being spoiled as fuck as usual

>>712920648
i mean with that mindset you might as well just quit the game.
>>712920905
cipher wont treat you bad at all, shes still meta and since she has supportive abilities her shelf life will be way longer than your generic dps.

>>712920905
>>literally just got Tribbie and Hyacine who are both meta as fuck
>>most of them are supports units
READ MOTHER FUCKER, READ!

>>712920992
Because that's a stupid point to complain about, especially as support characters have longer shelf life than DPS.

>rolled for e6 silver wolf on her latest rerun
>she is now insanely broken with the changes

>>712921087
The point of this discussion is to pull what ever you it took me one fucking year until my next pull.
My last fucking pull was Sparkle before this
I got over 130k gachabux saved without spending any shit, because "pull whatever you like" shit.

>>712920905
>>literally just got Tribbie and Hyacine who are both meta as fuck
I got both Mydei and Castorice, and I find myself using Mydei more. He is more fun to play despite his auto crap. Bronya / Mydei / Luocha / Sunday is extremely stupid (and somehow I don't run out of SP), and it's a lot of fun.

>>712904054 (OP)
Fuck you OP, i liked her.

>>712921236
>>712921087
in case someone call bullshit on me, not yet importing my Hyacine because the game start to bored me.

>>712921623
>>712921236
This is your own problem. Play a game more suited for your shit taste.

>pedophiles just got Tribbie, one of the most busted units within the most busted path in the game
>then Hyacine, a busted as fuck sustain who makes Tribbia even more busted
>the two together are so busted they've been named "Wheelchair", they can literally push any dps to clear, so strong the combo is
>"NOOOO THERE'S NOT ENOUGH CHILDREN FOR ME TO LUST AFTER"
>there's two 5 star harmony lolis
>there's ZERO 5 star harmony hags
>there's four 5 star sustain lolis
>there's ZERO 5 star sustain hags
>"NOOO TOO MANY HAGS TOO MANY HAGS"

Every single fucking time with pedos. It's never enough.
Behead every single pedo.

>>712921839
Cool, I guess pull whatever you like bullshit doesn't mean anything then.
This game still full of homoshit metashit.

>>712921881
I'm not trolling but the character variations in this game is fucking abysmal, I just want you guys be honest about this shitty design choice.
But of course, you guys rather act like an idiot and worship this game with no question asked.

>>712921881
>>there's ZERO 5 star sustain hags
?????????????

>>712922172
Maid, not hag, retard.

>>712922172
lingsha is a hebe

>>712922220
She still old as fuck and most of these type characters are meta DPS.
Even most of 5* males in this game are meta despite the powercreep.

>>712922172
That's maidslop you imbecile.

>>712922107
You're right, it's 90% maidslop garbage. They should delete all maids and make all characters either hebe or hags.

>Minagawa No, I didn't have time for trial and error, I just made it with a set idea. For example, when I decided to move the characters at 60fps, I saw the team of "Tobal No.1" moving the characters next to me, and I thought "60fps is good after all" on the spot. But when I actually implemented it, I had to reduce the polygons significantly, and the map became more and more choppy... Then the BG (background graphics) team suggested "If you're going to make it with that polygon count limit, how about this style?" and we adopted it. So rather than making it based on a clear vision or plan, it felt like we made it while consulting with each other about what to do each time.

>>712922339
So is Huohuo? So is Yunli? Age means literally jackshit in space china.

She has a maid model, she's a maid.

>>712922348
jesus fucking chirst, are you pretending to be retarded?
I just want more variation but instead you goes full retard and act "JUST DELETE EVERYTHING"
Why is it so hard to have a normal discussiun with you retards? is this game CAN'T DO NO WRONG?

>>712922417
I got huohuo, Yunli is literally Clara side grade and I got her to E2 already.
That's was my tipping point for this game, we got new one but it just the same shit and got overshaddowed by the wolf hags.

I've been saving since lingsha, who do I roll for?

>>712922580
Unrelated to the topic at hand,

Pedofags have plenty compared to hagfags, yet are always the first ones to complain. You people deserve nothing.

>>712922172
How is that a hag you dumbass?

>>712922728
Whatever man, clearly you don't want to discuss this game and rather have abysmal design choice ruining it, no wonder people are shitting about the characters in this thread since the first post.

>>712922818
The last time I saw her, she almost as tall as TB.

>>712921881
Also there's equally only one actual hag now and she was basically set up to fail. I guess Cipher counts because she's more built than the average maid. It's sad how HSR has 4 female models yet only actually uses two of them often, with one being used for the majority.

>>712922980
I mean at least Chiper exist, so the "pull whatever you like" crowd can do their things.

>>712909886
they spent too much time in space china and keep going back. its honestly quite annoying

>>712904054 (OP)
Straight up copy of Selena from PGR
Same physical type as well
Call this out and hoyoshills will swarm and seethe, while screaming everyone copies hoyo
I hope they use AI for everything, so hoyofaggots pop blood vessels from all the screaming

>>712922826
>pedos complain with full stomach
>got exposed for being ungrateful morons complaining with a full stomach
>"Uh whatever man, you don't want to discuss this game"

Retard

>>712923071
Everyone copies everyone. MHY copies their old designs from HI3 all of the time. They recycled Kafka's design for Evelynn in ZZZ. WuWa also copied that for Zani in WuWa as well as various others. I really don't give a fuck who copied who so long as the general design is decent.

>>712923351
>They recycled Kafka's design for Evelynn in ZZZ
>They recycled Kafka's design for Evelynn in ZZZ
>They recycled Kafka's design for Evelynn in ZZZ

>>712923272
I swear I don't understand what shit you talking about, the game bait me during 1.0 with QQ, Clara, Hook, Fu and SW.
1.0 alone got tons of variations in term characters released or unreleased, suddenly I'm not allowed to be complained when the game slowly became stagnant.
Seriously, if you just bored and need something to vent on then so be it, this shit hole exist for people like you anyway.

>>712923523
It's really simple. You're complaining after getting 2 of the most busted characters in sequence which go perfect together and are so strong they can make any DPS in the game including complete bricks like Seele clear easily.

>>712923835
Listen here, I'm grateful they exist, we all know we never getting the 1.x character variations that actually balance again, that's my legit complain.
Before 3.0 exist literally every shit full of males and hags for a whole year, even Sparkle deemed almost useless in just couple months.
Am I grateful about Hyacine? sure because I can finally get a decent upgrade from Huohuo which literally completely useless for a whole year for me.

>>712924202
I just want to know what are those hags you talk about.

You mean Hanya, completely dead on arrival?
Acheron, who needs a male character to work and is forever doomed to be stuck with nihilibricks?
Black Swan, who is completely fucking useless even with S1E1 and stuck with the worst archetype in the game?
Fucking Jade? One of the most ugly characters in the game with a complete trash model?

Not only you got Hyacine. You already had Huohuo. That's two 5 star healers. You know how many healers I have as options for hags? Zero, my dude. ZERO. Since 1.0

>>712924607
Anon, THEY EXIST that's you need to be grateful.
i just want MORE VARIATIONS, you said it yourself, there almost no HAGS HEALER, and yet you MAD AT ME instead of THIS PIECE OF SHIT GAME DESIGN CHOICE.

WHY YOU STILL DEFENDING THIS SHIT GAME WHEN YOU SAID IT YOURSELF THEY CAN'T BOTHER TO MAKE MORE HAGS HEALER?

>>712904054 (OP)
Mihomo has been pumping out AI slop tier character designs across GENSHIN, zzz and HSR for over a year now
None of them can even match venti klee silver wolf or piper

>>712924780
I'm not gonna be grateful because they exist if they are shit and completely sabotaged.

I'm not defending the game, you are. You're saying I should be grateful for these fucking crumbs. You are the one defending this piece of shit with constant maidslop with literally the same dress and same assets every single fucking time or another fucking male BiS for my female character because otherwise literally zero people would pull on those banners (They still tank completely btw).

>>712924607
Like as not Lingsha is a hag. It's just that the devs love their maid model and use it for both hags and hebes. Ain't no one you are gonna tell me Ruan Mei and Jingliu aren't supposed to be hags.

That said so far we only have one hag in 3.x and she was more or less set up to fail. And MHY in general have always been biased towards hebes inparticular, hence why I don't know if I have much faith in Hysilens even ignoring the DoT burden.

>>712905223
good morning sir

>>712904054 (OP)
>big companies
only shitty ones

>>712924827
>No proof
Shut up anon

>>712925165
Brother I wish Lingsha was a hag and barefoot.

But she's not. The character model dictates what the character is. By your logic Lady Fu would be a hag, but we know she ain't appealing to any hagfags.

>>712925109
Cool, at least we agreed on that this game design choice as fucking retarded.
1.0 was better, every characters actually balance, no matter the rarity.
Dunno why you mad at me then, tooks me over one fucking year to do "pull whatever you want" shit, and they just another support characters like usual
"But they are OP" yeah, but for how long, you chump also said the same thing about Sparkle.

>>712904178
nothing just vg shills shilling their trash game
star rail so fucking bad im waiting for the update to add skip function so i can skip their unbearable yapping for literal fucking hours for each quest. paimon should be fucking executed and the voice actor sent to mexico to be raped by gangs and then beheaded

>>712925348
Again, tell me Ruan Mei or Jingliu are hebes. It's really bizarre in Ruan Mei's case because her release splash art had her with a fucking slammin' body and bigger tits than she has in her model. Really no idea why she didn't get the big model.

>>712925534
>tell me Ruan Mei or Jingliu are hebes
They're not. They're maids.
Yeah it's bizarre.

>>712925348
>>712925534
Maid models are fucking retarded, because Mihoyo skeleton limitation, they want to make short women without looking like a hebe that's why this model exist, but because of that they also can be used as jailbait shit characters.

>using the AI spergs and anti-AI spergs to keep your general offshoot alive on /v/
masterful plan, i'll be taking notes from this for the ffxiv threads

>>712905223
>OP is just shitting on Jewhoyo for their unoriginal character design
>"Let me tell you about those anti AI schizos from twitter...all those luddites... insulting my AI god blah blah"
Rope yourself AI shill tard

Come play ZZZ, the only good mihoyo game

>>712925412
Yes I agree with that.
Also Sparkle is really sad, no one could predict the ridiculous harmony powercreep that would ensue, culminating in 3B.

The worst part is, despite being a hagfag, I actually really like Sparkle (And Fu Xuan, but that's unrelated). I just can't fucking win, why did Hanya had to be a 4 star.

>>712925808
Tried but honestly I don't really like how it's pretty much exclusively combat with cutscenes inbetween. I like having worlds to explore. Hence why I went to WuWa.

>>712925808
I will when they actually make this shortstack playable.
They literally got 10/10 design and make her an NPC while making 3 fucking bland upcoming design.

>>712925808
sorry but your general makes /gig/ and /ffxiv/ combined look sane
i know basically all the posters left for offshoots considering the janny even had to interfere to stop the bleed but christ almighty
also the fact that he quoted a bbc spammer is funny as shit

>>712913449
I like to talk shit about Genshin character designs but at least they don't look like they come from the same clothing store.

I'm a 2d animator and even i admit that there is no realistic human way a 2d fbf animator can animate a fully shaded character (or more) in any real time. Sure I can do the movement, and some fixed lighting, but fully painted/shaded lighting that reacts to other light and over complex motions, no way.

>>712925987
DAMN so they can do the chinese dress justice, why aren't we getting this in HSR

>>712926163
genshin ate them

>>712920992
Them being support units doesn't matter much since all the 4 niggers on the team are always on the field and are always getting their turn in. This isn't like some Actionslop where you only have 1 character on the field and the rest are just statsticks to boost that 1 on-field character.

>>712925808
>New Mihomo game right around the corner
Kek, ZZZ is about to be abandoned for the new dog just like HSR with Genshiin back in the day.

>>712926478
>Discussion about pulling whatever you like
>only pull supports
So you expect me use sparkle in 2.x against multiple enemy that caters break damage?

Pulling whatever you like in shart rail is fucking retarded unless you like gimping yourself.
Good luck not pulling any character that related to current end game content restriction.

>>712927036
theres like 3 different endgame modes, all with different meta. hell Himeko was considered dogshit but is SS tier in one of them since it released

>>712904054 (OP)
Scovilian rmndr

>>712927036
Do both but don't be married to the idea of getting good boy stars for rolling on the latest shilled character to clear hp bloat thresholds

>>712927289
Thing that makes the endgame mode complaints easier for me is just thinking about what I'm actually missing out on by not clearing the highest difficulty with 3*s. That is to say, half a roll to 1.5 rolls. I get being concerned about powercreep but when said powercreep amounts to so little I just find it hard to care that much.

>>712926585
If you truly rolled for whoever you liked, you wouldn't mind having them be a support.
>So you expect me use sparkle in 2.x against multiple enemy that caters break damage?
It is true that this game is very archetype check-ey, but if you're only going to pull for lolis, for example, you'd have a lot of pulls left over from skipping so many banners. And thus you can instead vertically invest into your favourites.
There's a Hookchad in /hsrg/ that regularly posts his MoC clears using only Hook and a E2S1 Sparkle. Just recently he also pulled for E2S1 Tribbie, and that's treating him well.

>>712904970
>if you need to analyze each individual pixel to figure out if it's AI or not, then what difference does it make?
Don't even try to argue with cultists. They will just come up with more and more cope.

>>712927036
Reaching up to MoC 11 is easy enough, it's only MoC 12 that is a metanigger sweatfest. I think a lot of people are now choosing to not go through the hassle for pulling for meta for a measly 120 jades per MoC cycle.
Pr*dw*n statistics even show that only 1000 people in the entire world have cleared up to MoC 12, while 90% of all players haven't even touched the MoC in the first place.

>>712905795
Total shame really, her model is attractive and her story part is good. I just can't justify E0S1 investment on a subpar unit in this game.