Thread 712923936

>Thank you not only for your passionate feedback around the Marathon reveal and Alpha playtest, but also for your patience while we took the time to listen closely and chart our next steps.

>Through every comment and real-time conversation on social media and Discord, your voice has been strong and clear. We've taken this to heart, and we know we need more time to craft Marathon into the game that truly reflects your passion. After much discussion within our Dev team, we’ve made the decision to delay the September 23rd release.

>The Alpha test created an opportunity for us to calibrate and focus the game on what will make it uniquely compelling—survival under pressure, mystery and lore around every corner, raid-like endgame challenges, and Bungie’s genre-defining FPS combat.

>We’re using this time to empower the team to create the intense, high-stakes experience that a title like Marathon is built around. This means deepening the relationship between the developers and the game’s most important voices: our players.

>Over the next few months, we’ll continue closed testing(including participants from the Alpha) to deploy gameplay updates and test new features as they come online.

>https://www.bungie.net/7/en/News/Article/marathon_update

When did Bungie turn into such fags? I remember back in H3 days they were cool as fuck

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>712924057
Bungies never had a stable development structure, dam was bound to burst one day

I thought it's been delayed alraedy?

>>712923936 (OP)
Sad day for Concord 2 fans

Rep damage is done, no matter how good the game becomes

>>712924224
Sony stopped paying for the marketing after the plagiarism stuff, but the release date didn't move until now.

>>712924315
They've got that shitty new Control game to laugh at, plus Fairgames, whenever it comes out.

lol, they didn't have a choice, if they didn't dely they would have gotten slammed hard for making people pay for work that was stolen.

>Not even a new date said
Yeah they're fucked, I genuinely think Marathon might even be cancelled

>>712923936 (OP)
Fucking why? They're going to spend even more money and time on this?

Its a marathon not a sprint

They don't explicitly state the aesthetics that they copied, just "increased visual fidelity"

>Bungie, former creators of some of the best singleplayer FPS games of all time
>now incapable of making anything besides live service slop
What went wrong? Did all their designers quit?

>>712924224
They found more stolen assets

Bungie's live-service push has failed. Herman Hulst's head better be on the chopping block for this massive disaster after he promoted Concord and thought Fairgames was worth funding. What a retard.

>Marathon won't make same mistakes as concord did
>It won't be released
Bravo, bungie

>>712924057
Bungle was always shit. The fact they cobbled together something playable not once, but FIVE TIMES (during the X-box era) is proof they got INSANELY lucky.

delay it for a year
>put in a single player campaign
>take out the extraction shit
>real team v team shooter

KWAB

>>712924525
40 keks

>>712924432
Bungie is obligated to finish the game because of their contract with sony.

>>712924528
Bungie is just the name on the building, m8. If the talent leaves, all you've got is an expensive building.

I guess they... didn't finish the marathon

>>712923936 (OP)
>Sony not just outright cancelling it and killing Bungle/folding them into a Destiny 2 studio
Grim. Japan needs to take over again and clean house.

Bungie ran its last marathon

>>712924636
>"They let me pick. Did I ever tell you that? Choose whichever Spartan I wanted. I watched as you became the soldier we needed you to be. Like the others, you were strong and swift and brave. A natural leader. But you had something they didn't. Something no one saw but me. Can you guess? Luck."
Holy shit it makes sense

>>712924736
WHY ARE WE HERE?

JUST TO SUFFER??

>>712924057
The bingie of today isn't the bungee of 20 years ago. Same with Rare, same with Retro, same with Rockstar. Same with literally every studio and developer.

>>712924525
make sure this guy gets no (You)s

divert all anons to the "games with [fetish]?" threads

>>712924736
Unironically how do you come back from this

>>712924525
lol

>>712924224
Yeah.
>>712924396
the game was delayed before they dropped an official release date

>>712924736
>JUST

A delayed game is eventually bad
A rushed game is bad forever

>>712924736
The one with "Plagarism will make me God" is even better

>>712923936 (OP)
>no new release date
what if they just cancel it

>>712924736
I don't think I have ever seen any man who's spirit and will to live has been more thoroughly crushed than this. It's like a masterful painting on human suffering.

>>712923936 (OP)
say her name

>>712925270
>her

>>712925270
>She

>>712923936 (OP)
here we go again

>>712925270
Ben Hook.

but sony said there was no problem????
what are we thinking snoysisters?

Lets be honest, they know the writing's on the wall for this game. All the bad PR, community reception and references to Concord is giving them nothing but sweet worry and dread.

The gameplay reveal looked so bland that I cannot believe BUNGIE spent 6 years on this game. Its like the most flat looking card board design wise and the gunplay looks less dynamic than it did in destiny

>>712925490
I'm thinking the absence of a new release date is the most interesting thing, since it feels like Sony doesn't know what they want to do.

And the rumors about 'Bungie has to ship it or they get taken over 100%' only add fuel to the fire.

>>712925847

I've never played any of the OG marathon games but I'm happy to see a pozzed reboot of some old shit crash and burn like this, and I look forward to whatever bad solution they come up with, because no matter what they can't save it and Bungie deserves whatever happens

>>712924525
kek

Concord 2, another 3 billion dollars down the drain.

>>712925358
>Has

>>712926010
based take the trannycore style dead and buried is a win and if the game sucks it's just the cheryr on top fuck bunghole

>>712924525
yeah except at the end of this marathon all that awaits are the devs shitting themselves and bloody nipples

>>712924057
>129 KB PNGWhen did Bungie turn into such fags
halo reach

Honestly I wanted to see it go against Tarkov 1.0 and Arc Raiders and flop abysmally.

>>712923936 (OP)
>Delayed
>Not cancelled
Fucking morons! Even Sega had enough common sense to cancel Hyenas!

>>712926010
It has nothing to do with marathon, they had no story written for it when the trailer game out they just threw in a random troon self-insert cat, it makes no fucking sense, it's the biggest piece of shit I've ever seen.

>>712924736
This guy got fired btw.

And i guess he already expected that to happen and thats why he looked so dead inside during that stream. He knew his life was over.

Was looking forward to this gigaflopping in sales but I guess an infinite delay is a good enough second place prize.

>>712926806
PLAGIARISM WILL MAKE ME A GOD_}.

>>712926806
>And i guess he already expected that to happen and thats why he looked so dead inside during that stream. He knew his life was over.

>>712924057
>When did Bungie turn into such fags?
When they fired everyone talented before and during the early years of Destiny and focused on hiring as many fags and blacks that they could.

>>712926806
He should be happy he milked this shit company for a salary for close to a decade while doing nothing.

>>712926818
Don't worry bro Killing Floor 3 is next month.

>>712926806
>This guy got fired btw.
No he didn't, he still works for Bungie. He's Joseph Cross.

>>712925270
AntiRealWomen
tranny should still be paid tho

Some of our immediate focus areas will be:
Upping the Survival Game
More challenging and engaging AI encounters
More rewarding runs, with new types of loot and dynamic events
Making combat more tense and strategic
Doubling down on the Marathon Universe
Increased visual fidelity
More narrative and environmental storytelling to discover and interact with
A darker tone that delivers on the themes of the original trilogy
Adding more social experiences
A better player experience for solo/duos
Prox chat, so social stories can come to life
You'll hear from us again later this Fall when we can share the progress we've made, alongside the game's new release date. Thank you again for your patience and— much more importantly— your passion. Your continued feedback will help us make Marathon the incredible gaming experience we all know it can be.

>>712925270
Benjamin

>>712927185
>he didn't get fired - they just removed him from his director postion and put him somewhere else
His life is essentially over. He will get put into another position with responsibilities again. And every time he looks into the faces of his fellow coworkers all he will see is distain or sadness. Only a matter of time until he quits the company on his own having no stuff to do - time to change industries.

>>712923936 (OP)
Still ain't buying

>>712923936 (OP)
>instead of cancelling it, we decided to pour more money into it
They want to beat Concord that much huh.

>>712927321
Did they actually change his role? I can't find anything on that.

The fact that they even wanted to ship that shit in September tells me everything I need to know about Bungie, get fucked, not buying Concord 2.

>>712924525
I can already see this being used in the corporate internal email announcing the delay. While the employees job search to get ahead of the inevitable layoffs at Bungie

>Sony spent 3.6 BILLION USD on this
when is the 2nd industry crash happening

>>712927532
Sony gotta try to squeeze blood from that stupid stone SOMEHOW.

>>712927185
He's fired as soon as the game releases. Hence no release date.

>>712927321
>>712927572
I also havent heard this, but its not uncommon for companies just to move you rather than out right fire you, lessening your pay to that youre eventually forced to leave on your own volition. It should happen, even if he didnt steal it himself, the fact that this is like the 5th time its happened means he didnt put any checks or regulations in his department to stop it after it happened once, let alone 5 times.

>>712927254
>Doubling down on the Marathon Universe
>A darker tone that delivers on the themes of the original trilogy
Just bury it you fucking faggots, you already killed it, stop publicly raping its corpse

[Sad News] Joe Cross and Joe Ziegler have commit suicide. They couldn't find a third player for the squad

how does this happen?

>>712927254
>prox chat

Oh, they're adding it in? I wonder how many screeching troons had to be ack'd to get that done.

>>712927974
dont worry, I got their bags right here Ill revive them :)

>>712927689
source?

>>712927572
It's just baseless speculation, but fun. No one from Bungie's gotten sacked over Marathon except for that one director who was allegedly some kind of sex pest.

>>712923936 (OP)
What the hell happened to Bungie

>>712928109
1. bungie incompetence
2. they dont want it to leak
3. sony is the one that called it and doesnt care about the management team enough to inform them to inform their employees

>>712928109
>a screenshot of a tweet, which also has a screenshot of a tweet
Die.

>>712928224
The talented people left or got forced out.

>>712928268
This. Game's rep has been tarnished. Even if it's good you'll have a tirade of people saying "ITS AI SLOP DON'T BUY"

>>712923936 (OP)
where the shit did everyone get on the whole "hero shooter" bandwagon?
What game started the fad not a single person wanted?

>>712924736
KWABOTY

>>712923936 (OP)
>still going to be pvpve
they could delay for a decade, but unless they deliver an atmospheric campaign, coop or otherwise, no one will give a single shit

The culture war against this game just seems like a bunch of former Destiny fanboys with an axe to grind. I don't even think most people cared about the art plagiarism and just weaponized it against Bungie.

>>712928885
>most people don't care about plagiarism so it's not bad
get raped

>>712928209
>who was allegedly some kind of sex pest.
The guy was a crazy liberal but that office is fucking loaded with fat women and troons, I bet that entire office is sex pests.

>>712923936 (OP)
>listening to player feedback
this is the most obvious sign that you have no vision and your game is shit

>>712929321
Modern corporate culture also favors the 'this guy is standing in the way of my promotion, so I'll Me Too his ass to remove him,' so that could play into it. desu, I don't know much about the story

>>712928165
https://www.ign.com/articles/playstation-sony-buys-bungie

>>712928885
>ummm this objectively immoral evil act doesn't bother people because I don't want it to?
And you robbed shit to look repulsive anyway, lmao, fucking clown hours.

>>712928885
This is mostly true. People hate Bungie cause they've been running Destiny into the ground for years despite it being a pretty cool game. Now they're trying to abandon it completely for a flavor-of-the-month faggot extraction shooter no one wants. The art theft stuff is only a big deal because everyone hates Bungie already, if they had any goodwill left people would make more excuses for them.

>>712928885
>I don't even think
Well, at least you got one thing right.

>>712923936 (OP)
>what will make it uniquely compelling—survival under pressure
>em dash
AI wrote this

So, what's gonna happen?

a)Sony kills the game and put it out of its misery

b)Sony releases the game, it's shit, and became the next Concord

c)Somehow the game becomes a big success

>>712930267
B, obviously.

>>712924057
>people who wanted to sweatfest had their tiers of ranked games, otherwise no true skill base matchmaking in casual modes
>community made custom maps and gamemodes
>early days of xbox 360, making friends was super easy
>split screen, campaign multiplayer
>realizing your friend gets to play the Arbiter as an ally
>big team slayer
>forge world
>infection
>griffball
>racing on Halo on Halo
>haunted house
We really didn't know how good we had it.

>>712930267
If they announced a new release date, I'd say B.

But without a release date and just a promise to 'share one in the fall,' I'd say 50% chance of A.

>>712924736
WHY did they even stream right after the plagiarism shit?!

>>712930267
It cannot be killed, snoy will keep it on life support just to not suffer another $400m (minimum) instant flop. At most they'll silently kill their year 1 roadmap and keep the game up for appearances with bots running around.

KWAB

>>712926381
>no

>>712930754
>style

>>712930372
Halo is the best party game ever made.

>>712924057
Instead of hiring dorky dudebros they hired fags and trannies.

Borderlands 4 won.

KWABOTY

>>712928109
They will hire new devs in six months anyways, why should they care if they know or not?
>>712928885
Nobody actually cares about that instead of art degree losers. They want to (rightfully) hate on bungiee.
People hate bungie because
>destiny 1 was shit.
>destiny 2 was their chance to fix it, was shit.
>trannies and nigs.
>bringing back a dead IP that nobody at current bungie worked on and turning it into a faggy extraction shooter that is going to be absolutely shit.

>>712924525
Carlos!!!

>>712928885
>spend a decade building an audience for one (two) games
>tell them to fuck off, you're not our target anymore
Bold move cotton.

>>712925270
Nigger Squared

>>712923936 (OP)
next concord

>>712926381
>No

>another live service game bites the dust
Gaming is healing.

>>712924525
Stolen from https://x.com/ZhugeEX/status/1935039260534427847

>>712924057
They were always this way, they just had lightning in a bottle with Halo and turned that success into Destiny. If they had just stayed with MS and kept shitting out new halo games like IW shits out CoD gamed, they would be in a much better spot. But no, they had to be smug about it and it destroyed them.

>>712924525
my sides

>>712924528
Nothing went wrong.
Bungie and 343 are merely tools of the OCCULT that were meant to relay information about Halo et al — not for anyone here.
Either they were doing their job, and as such their current state, and the state of the industry is a reflection of the situation, or they were derailed.
Either way Halo never died.

>>712933809
>Either way Halo never died.
Some things are worse than death.

Industry experts, I'm sure there are a few of you i this thread. Why spent another 2-3 millions of dollars, when it's likely that it will still bomb after the delay? Are Bungie and Sony's ego so inflated, that they can't admit that they have a financial flop in their hands? Sega had the courage to kill Hyena after it's disastrous beta, so why can't Sony stop this train wreck now instead of burning money? Is there no person at Sony/Bungie that is willing to state the obvious?

>>712933938
Yeah, just look at Marathon.

>>712924848
You don't. And a delay isn't going to help. It's just going to make it cost more before the inevitable disaster.

Awfully nice of PlayStation to just hand the year over to Nintendo

>>712933938
Not these ones. Not yet, at least.

>>712924525
KEK

>>712930267
Somewhere between A and B. I don't doubt Sony may quietly kill it off. But Hulst is completely retarded. All of these games have been basically his babies. Concord, Fairgames and this. I suspect they will release it towards the end of the year and it will die horribly.
Which is honestly a good thing. Sony Japan already wants to reclaim the gaming side from california and this will be the final nail in Hulst's career.

they gonna cull all the tranny devs we did it reddit

>>712935024
And the next year!
And the next year!
And the next year!
And the Next Year!

Does this game even have any unique or redeeming feature that would set them apart from the 10 other fucking extraction looters? It feels more like a reskin than anything else.

>>712923936 (OP)
I haven't read the thread, which is probably a lot of unhappy people being happy about others being unhappy, but I can't help feel bad for game devs like this and people dogpiling on them without ever having played their game. Some of the devs were just trying to make the best game they could with what was demanded of them

>>712935327
It's effectively unplayable solo. Does that count?

>>712923936 (OP)
>craft Marathon into the game that truly reflects your passion
Cool are they going to add a single player campaign? No? Then fuck off.

>>712923936 (OP)
another one bites the dust

>>712935327
Mechanically, no. The only arguably unique aspects are:
>the visual style (plagiarised or not)
>the 'Bungie magic' feel of the shooting experience, which is debatable at this point

Otherwise, it just looks like a Destiny 2 mod.

>>712935162
How did the fucking Killzone guy get to become head of Sony's 1st party development. What happened between 2017 and 2019

>>712935327
I think other extraction shooters allow more than 6 people, in groups of 3, to play.

>>712936402
the easiest way to get a promotion is wait for the one of the 4 waves of layoffs each year and when they bring in a new boss you go to them and complain that you were on track to a promotion and you did all this work blablablba and after you cycle through a few bosses you will find yourself as the new boss.

>>712937047
you think? so you dont even know? why reply in the first place if you dont know

>>712937187
>new boss tracks sales and sees the last game you worked on sold 10 mil(horizon zero dawn)
>no context that it was in a bundle or that it has zero cultural relevance outside nikocado memes
Fuck. It tracks

>>712937196
Autistic retard, or ESL? Don't answer.

>>712927828
everyone posts him like this but I find it insulting.

Mcdonalds workers have way more dignity than shitty woke ass art directors for companies that suck cock.

they put the food in the bag and make people happy.

>>712923936 (OP)
This is forced damage control and it will still not save this pile of crap.
Should've instead remade the original Marathon games as PlayStation's answer to Halo.
Instead they made a game whose only common element is the title, logo and that's that. Nothing else in common.

>>712937454
as a mcdonald's worker I have to say I disagree

>>712924736
lel this shit would live in my mind rent free and haunting me if I ever get any management role

Bungle does it again. Though, who knows. that indefinite delay could just turn into a later cancellation as well. It's already an uphill battle with the bad PR but everyone thinks the game was dead on arrival already. Might as well kill it at this point.

How the hell have both Pete Parsons and his car collection survived this long?

>>712940867
It's allegedly part of whatever contract Sony signed. The Bungie execs get to stay in charge and have jobs so long as the studio releases games or hits sales targets or something.

But if Marathon gets cancelled for real, maybe they'll all get sacked.

>>712933580
They both stole it from me. Probably Bungie employees.
>>711624992

>>712938062
Idk man my fatass is pretty happy when I get my nuggies and fries in a bag

>>712941416
>maybe they'll all get sacked.
a worthwhile investment from sony

>>712942423
Yeah, $3.6b and they got a Bungie well past its prime, the Destiny IP, the crusty old (and now poisoned) Marathon IP, some expensive real estate in Seattle, and a dying live service game (Destiny 2).

Even crazier when you remember that Disney got the entire Star Wars franchise for just a little more than that. (in 2012 dollars, sure, but it's still worth comparing)

>>712924057
All the cool boys left now it's filled with high school rejects.

>>712923936 (OP)
Why don't they just add cute anime girls to their live service games and make millions instead of losing them?

>>712941416
Can someone why Sony forked over like 3.6 billion dollars for Bungie again? I get that they were panicking with the Microsoft aquisitions of Acti-Blizz and Zenimax but fucking Bungie of all companies? They couldn't nab like a Capcom or a Squeenix? Or hell they could probably eat Konami's gaming division on the cheap at the very least.

>>712943161
How did I fucking type all of that and forget to include the word explain. God dammit.

>devs internally tell the execs they want to make something else
>"no fuck you you're making an extraction shooter because we gotta have a PvP focus, it's all the live service GaaS rage"
>basically tosses aside their Destiny audience to the mobile and lower-budget "expansions" pile, forsaking what fans they have left for this
>god knows how much of the game's art may be plagiarized and not just for direct asset rips, could require a major art overhaul and some people being sacked
>no one cared for the game in its closed alpha tests, core mechanics and enemy AI work fine enough but there's literally no longevity or any real heart to it whatsoever
>$40

Looks like we got another woke to broke situation incoming

>>712943161
It's easy, m8:
>MS buys Activision
>Sony execs panic and need to 'clap back,' so they express interest in Bungie
>Bungie smell blood in the water and double their price
>Sony also has a boner for live service slop, so they decide to pay it

It was probably the live service angle that tipped Sony into making the deal, given how they went all-in on those 12 games or however many it was.

>>712923936 (OP)
Imagine the faces of Sony's execs when Bungie tells them they need two more years of salary for the entire studio to refine this pile of shit.

>>712942779
>expensive real estate in Seattle
isn't having real estate a good thing?

>>712929697
Normies even forgave bungie for stealing art for destiny 2 because the floor hadn't fallen out from them yet. If people are still hooked on your company you can get away with a lot of shit, like how no one cares about the literal 6 fingered ai slop call of duty assets because they still get their dopamine from the game itself. And people just fundamentally did not get dopamine from the alpha.

>>712944332
its so funny they cursed the ps5 games catalogue by this super retarded move

>>712924736
good Lord, that expression.

Seems like I was onto something when I pointed out that Hulst's math wasn't adding up when he said a few days ago that Marathon was going to be Bungie's first new game in "over a decade".

>>712935327
>Does this game even have any unique or redeeming feature that would set them apart from the 10 other fucking extraction looters? It feels more like a reskin than anything else.
uhmm something something has amazing one-of-a-kind gunplay

>"We hear you."
>again

>>712944901
Look forward to the PS6

>>712935290
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6H8ouf_m9hQ

>>712940530
Yep. It was already looking impossible releasing in september but it will never be successful now since next year there will be
>ARC Raiders EA already out by several months
>Tarkov 1.0
>GTA 6
game has no chance now

>>712945389
ill just lookforward to upgrade my pc and play anything

>>712944747
Not if the real estate you own isn't doing anything for you.

Sony could flip whatever building they're in, but they'd need to find someone who wants to spend millions of dollars on corporate office space.

And if they sold it, that would mean everyone in Bungie gets fired or is forced to relocate to California.

>>712944901
Out of touch boomer executives and trend chasing accounting dickheads are a hell of a combination, yeah.

>>712945115
It makes sense if you start counting from Destiny 1's release. Destiny 2 isn't so much a new title as it's just another game in the same franchise.

Is sony really gonna release both Marathon AND Fairgames around GTA6? are they serious?

>>712923936 (OP)
Bla bla bla kys Bungie

>>712945717
yes its the same president that released horizon 2 alongside elden ring and zelda

>>712924682
KWAB!

>>712924670
the only correct answer

I'm glad this piece of shit is getting canned but it should have been canned for looking like absolute trash not just because reddit got wind of them stealing art assets

As amusing as "Concord 2" memes are, the more likely scenario is that it will do mediocre numbers, limp on for a little while, then get quietly axed. Nothing as abrupt, exciting, and total as Concord's cancellation. Think more like Anthem instead.

>>712928109
>owners making decisions without letting employees know
no clearer sign of a closure for a company

>>712924736
I've seen cancer patients with more life in their eyes, jesus

>>712946843
It's a shame this game is getting called 'Concord 2' when its failure should be defined on its own. Sony spent over $3 billion, just to be beaten by loss.png

>>712935327
No, even worse. It's less mechanically coherent than literally every other extraction shooter. It's like, half a game.

>>712943136
After all these years, we never got the 'call of oniichan' multiplayer shooter where you use water baloons in summer and snowballs in winter.
Whoever does that will earn my eternal gratitude... but let's face it, they just won't.

>>712927321
That isn't how America works, SEAfriend. We don't do retarded Nip shit, we just fire you.

>>712946843
Nothing can be as singlehandely bad as Concord, but the combined flops of it, Marathon and Fairgames will traumatize Sony for the rest of their existence