Final Fantasy X always is a comforting game for me, it's stuck with me ever since I first played it. The atmosphere is just great and the beautiful soundtrack definitely helped.
It's the last Sakaguchi game, it's the last Uematsu game. Hell, it's literally the last Squaresoft Final Fantasy before the m*rger. It's really interesting seeing how they were trying to evolve the formula and the tech, and you can only imagine what the series would have been if Sakaguchi stayed at the helm.

Thread theme - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RC1VmGXiEFw

Fucking take me back

>>712926172 (OP)
>gay MC
>horsefaced romantic interest
>goth mommy and hot blonde RIGHT THERE
>picks the horse
Also
>true turn based with no ATB
I sleep (and I take no penalty in the game because it's for FAGGOTS).

>>712926626
>Hide post

>>712926626
Worst takes of all time. Congratulations, retard.

>>712926717
Hide this dick (in your ass).
>>712926749
Here's the best take (you taking my dick in your ass).

>>712927048
go away homo

>>712926626
Bad opinions but I agree that Rikku is better Yuna is kinda boring. Lulu is an unvirgin hag though

Better dead than Al Bhed, brudda

FF was created by Sakaguchi and Uematsu, who doesn't get enough credit for the series. he was more than just a guy who wrote songs and then the designers used his songs. he was part of the design process from day 0.

Final Fantasy lifespan and cultural relevance has parallels with that of the Simpsons. at a point, in the 90s, it was THE powerhouse, and it was the result of a number of producers, who each brought their own stylistic approach to things. for example, the Simpsons' characters were created by Groening, who was an overly cynical cartoonist; Sam Simon brought writing talent and that intellectual aspect it has, and brooks made sure that deep character development/family dynamics were there. all of these contributed to the show's massive success.

Sakaguchi was the creator, and his style is clearly traditional, old-school RPG. he was friends with Uematsu and brought him on early. before the series really took off, they got Kitase (he brought more cinematic considerations to the development), and how could we forget nomura (who initially was just an illustrator, but quickly moved up the ladder, bringing his signature dreamlike approach to design mixed with fashion).

all of these different things, which feel disparate, had perfect cohesion with each other and contributed toward a perfect vision. and, for a time, it was perfect.

all these guys are like the bottom of the jenga tower. you take one out, and the vision immediately loses its cohesion. when sakaguchi left, there was no central vision anymore. we had copies (like ivalice) but they never achieved the cultural resonance that FF had at its peak.

>>712927984
Matsuno wasn't a "copy". He had a distinct style, wildly different from team Gooch, and all of his games are great. He was the best chance for Square to have somebody with a vision at the helm after Gooch, but they blew it, like they blew everything else.

>>712927670

>>712927984
On the flip side, each of those guys do have their own visions and are auteurs in their own right.

Only Nomura could have made Kingdom Hearts, for instance, just like only Kitase could have have made FFVIII and only Sakaguchi could have made the SNES titles.

>>712928880
Neither of them made those games, it was a collaborative process.

>>712927048
stfu gay boy

>>712926172 (OP)
It's crazy just how quality everything was in the 80s/90s/early 00s. We just assumed everything in the future would be just as good if not better. We had no idea how quickly everything would turn to shit and how far it would fall. I wish I could've appreciated what we had when we had it.

>>712929137
FFVIII was primarily a collab between Kitase and Nomura with Sakaguchi as a consultant, but KH is pure Nomura (Tai Yasue and and Jun Akiyama were also involved, but mostly as co-writers/scenario writers).

>>712929540
KH was an insane offshoot side project that could have only been made in the late '90s/early '00s

>>712929408
>quality everything was
Confirmation bias. You are forgetting all the shite due to your lack or exposure or selective memory. Even songs considered classic today were not on the top 100 charts that were filled with slop decades ago when they released.

>>712929970
The first KH was also the last game Square made before the Merger, which probably explains why the first game has such a unique vibe compared to the others. It’s got that weird and dream-like Squaresoft vibe.

>>712930126
fuck off zoomie, even the worst slop from 20 years ago was infinitely better than what is considered top entertainment nowadays

>>712930353
Your kids will say this too about today and so will your grandkids about their day. You aren't unique or special for thinking your childhood was the best.

>>712930353
There was some pretty bad slop from back then. The only difference is that they were barely playable and often obtuse because QoL features weren’t as common even for some of the best games of the era.


The slop of the past has been forgotten just like today’s slop will be forgotten. No matter what the era, only the good games are remembered.

>>712926172 (OP)
>stuck with me ever since I first played it.
Same. I've been seeing more positive FFX posts on /v/ over the last year. Not sure why.

Something I like about older FF games is that the spaces feel very personal. They are drawn with such care, and have this personal touch to them. Although, I know that millions of other people played this game, it still feels like it's my experience. Compare that to 'yet another corridor' you walk down in FF13, 15, 16.

I think something was lost when we moved away from pre-rendered backgrounds - this happened with Resident Evil as well.

>>712930353
cast the widest possible net for the largest possible market share. I think we should go back to Wizardry at this point and snub it all until AAA studios die, like anon in another thread said.

Picture related, this is what I think has been going on for years: that DEI takes away individual agency in such a way that the product is not only for minorities, but that they have to buy the product instead of another, as if the minorities are now indebted to the companies.
What if I want to play a hard game rather than a clip show? Am in in the minority then, now?

>>712926172 (OP)
yeah

>>712931004
>Leftism.jpg

>>712930846
this is true and something ive thought about going back a pretty long time

real-time environments, which was one of the marketing points of ffx's tech, serve a great purpose for dynamic camera movement where the area is benefitted by having the perspective follow the player
but for static areas, pre-rendered backgrounds offer much more in terms of detail, saturation, presentation, etc like dioramas from i-spy books
full of small secrets and designed to invoke curiosity and certain moods and thoughts

its not an unknown aspect or phenomena of graphic design, but definitely lost in our current age of video games

>>712930846
>a place the player is visiting
versus
>an environment the player is interacting with
makes all the difference in the world.

>>712926172 (OP)
Have you played Lost Odyssey?

>>712930126
For the whole industry, sure, it's bias.
For Square?
In 1991~2001 we got:
Final Fantasy IV
Romancing SaGa
Final Fantasy V
Secret of Mana
Final Fantasy VI
Front Mission
Romancint SaGa II
Romancing SaGa III
Live a Live
Seiken Densetsu III
Threasure of the Rudras
Chrono Trigger
Parasite Eve
Final Fantasy VII
Front Mission II
Brave Fencer Musashi
Final Fantays Tactics
SaGa Frontier
Final Fantasy VIII
Front Mission III
Parasite Eve II
Final Fantasy IX
Chrono Cross
Vagrant Story
Legend of Mana
Final Fantasy X
Sorry, that destroys the output of SQEX's late 00's and the whole 10's.

>>712930846
The SS Winno really waxed their floors. It seems like a pretty high-class ferry honestly.

>>712930438
No, they won't. Sorry that you grew up with trash like FFXIII, Lighting Returns and FFXV instead of good games.

>>712934983
trvke

There's something about gunblades that make them remain the best Final Fantasy weapons

FFX makes girl gamers cry uncontrollably.

for me it was the high five between Jecht and Tidus at the end.

>>712935591
dumb camwhores

>>712935459
90's and early 00's was Nomura at its peak.

>>712935459
It's a gun with a blade. What else do people need.

>>712935591
what game ending made you cry

>>712935834
Onahole in the grip.

>>712935850
Straight men don't cry over frictional stories.

>>712935459
90s CGI was so SOVLful

>>712933473

>>712935949
what about lubricated ones

>>712933473
The great thing about the late 90s and early 00s was that we could have both within the same game. This is something zoomers and aoomers will never get to experience.

>>712933473
I don’t understand why no one else has done the “pre-rendered fixed camera” style.

It has its charm.

i'll do most of the optional end game content to the point where i'm hitting for 99,999 each attack but i will never ever be autistic enough to stat max and take on the dark aeons

>>712936471
they can still play the classics
but they did miss out on being enveloped by them yeah

>>712936531
Prerendered stuff has a target resolution. It looks like ass when scaled up, and is unintelligible with scaled down (play Still Life in 480i on Xbox. Some puzzles are impossible). Realtime 3D can be infinitely scaled, and even muddy textures from the 90s don't hurt it too much.

>>712937041
>Prerendered stuff has a target resolution. It looks like ass when scaled up
idiot

>>712936531
No one buys them anymore

>>712934983
Sorry you grew up beep boop computer lights and sounds and missed having a real childhood. Man I feel bad for kids your age.

>>712935850
klonoa

>>712937315
well nobody could really buy pic related tbf

>>712926626
Zoom Zoom Zoom Zoom

>>712937315
this game looks like shit outside the scanned backgrounds, like some generic phone auto battler which is more or less what it was

>>712937150
>mods
That's not the same thing as just scaling a prerendered scene. Imagine just being disingenous and not feeling bad. My picrel a PSX prerendered scene scaled with nearest neighbor. It looks worse than at native resolution, especially with the 3D models being rendered at a higher resolution on top of it.
Prerendered is largely not done for that very reason. Fixed camera angles can still be done with realtime 3D with success.
>>712937705
>guaranteed 40 year old zoomer calling me a zoomer
Rinoa is best girl in best game with best MC. Deal with it.

>>712926172 (OP)
Uematsu was responsible for the entirety of FFXIV 1.0's OST. Which explains why the quality fell with ARR's hand-off to Soken, but who knew it could get worse with the recent expansion's hand-off to Soken's understudies.

>>712936698
I don't even remember the dark aeons

>>712926172 (OP)
>

>>712938902
what did he mean by this

>>712935850
FF16

>when Metia goes out at the end

Fuck

>>712937783
realtime fixed is better than nothing, but studios can emulate a prerendered look without sacrificing visual fidelity
its just that they dont as far as ive seen
industry seems to lack creative direction in that area since its no longer a hardware limitation and defaults to rt 3d in pretty much every scenario

>>712939315
the music swell when that happens too is kino

>>712937315
yeah, but that's what Square said about the "4 niggaz in a row" genre too. I think that if, hear me out, Square's announced that their next FF game would be:

>pre-rendered + real-time (when appropriate)
>fixed camera
>art style will closer to the Fantasy of 6, 9, and 10
>turn based
>music inspired by Uematsu instead of orchestra slop and Gregorian chants
>2 year dev cycle
>story-tone similar to X, no goofy weeb shit and no talking cats doing the moon walk
>on every platform (pc, Switch 2, xbox, ps5) - no exclusive deals with snoy corp

I believe it would succeed.

>>712937315
No one buys them anymore because no one makes them anymore, retardo

>>712939717
That and Torgal howling, shit worked pretty good

>>712939315
>>712939717
the absolute state of zoomers

>>712940002
>RT only
>requires a 5090 to even launch
>cover shooter
>art style of The Neverhood
>game deletes your save if you don't use the inputs once every second
>music by Barry Manilow
>15 years and a $800m budget
>story similar to Ride to Hell: Retribution
>PC only

>>712940434
Yes, exactly. That's what they're going to give us for FF17 and wonder why it "fails to meet sales expectations".

>>712934763
Don't forget the most important, Xenogears

>>712937315
Let's be honest, tho. Fantasian and stuff like I Am Setsuna are low budget mediocre stuff.
People would buy games if they didn't look like that.

>>712937315
that looks like shit

>>712937348
>on /v/
>pretending to be a liferuler of sorts
Hilarious. Keep seething, Raitoningu fan. Your games won't be less trash.

>hates tidus
>thinks lulu is best girl
how to spot a retard

>>712926172 (OP)
>comforting
>game about facing your death and those of loved ones

>>712937315
Octopath II is good. Probably the only post-2008 SQEX game I actually enjoyed, not counting stuff like SO2R or Live a Live 2DHD.

>>712941808
it's a journey

>>712926172 (OP)
FFX has Frutiger Aero vibes all over, I love it.

>>712941664
>Mood killer
>Belt dress
>Purple lipstick
>Ponytail that splits into 4 braids
Her giant tits hid a lot, but that monotone voice did it for me

>>712941808

>>712942874
well, since I actually played the game and didn't just jerk off to pictures of her, to me she's a wishy-washy loser who sucks at her job and gets naturally outclassed by a mage who's several years younger than she is

>>712926172 (OP)
We aren't allowed to have games that look like this any more because reasons.

yah

>>712943481
jews

Imagine having good feelings about this retarded game that literally killed FF.
FF9 was the last FF game.

>>712945623
dumb retarded nigger

>>712945623
thanks now say an opinion you didn't get from someone else

>>712926626
People who prefer Lulu over Yuna are so boring. I bet you think Raven is better than Starfire, too. Stop letting the internet dictate your taste in women.

fainaru fantaji

>>712926172 (OP)
Cleared ffx this year for the first time and this track is one of my favorites. It sounds more like a visual novel theme than a video game theme.

Also fuck pic related.

>>712947403
put it sleep and use fira
rinse and repeat

>>712926172 (OP)
it's really good, but XII and ivalice aliance is better

>>712947875
debatable

>>712926172 (OP)
I thought getting into my 30s and working would change me and make me want other things, but I just want to go back and feel the feels of formative videogames again. It's all I want. Life is so stupid bros.

>>712926172 (OP)
:(

>>712943042
you made me sad and I havent even played it yet

>>712949031
most people end up realizing the fondness and yearning for their childhood doesnt go away
that or they never had much magic to begin with so theyre not held up by much

>>712949416
it's a fantastic game
anyone who tells you it sucks is parroting something they heard someone else say
people will say tidus is annoying because he never shuts up or talks about food all the time, whereas he's very introspective and mentions being hungry a handful of times at the beginning of the game because he keeps getting transported 100s of miles without any food
it's an easy 9/10 game, and I say this as someone who avoided it for 20s years because people said it was lame and then I played it this month and it was amazing

>>712943042
the twilight hour light which also comes through in the spirits with that tropical daydream-aesthetic just fits the melancholic themes and story so well. The lessons of these types of stories is always to learn to let go, instead we just become obsessed with the works themselves and cling to them like crazy. Maybe it wasn't worth it bros, maybe I wish I could use art as motivation and fuel to change my own life, but it doesn't it all just turns to escpism in the end fug.

>>712943042
>defeating Seymor Flux after weeks of struggle
git gud casul

>wish I was around to experience games from late 80s to the earliest of 2000s
>I could have enjoyed vidya from that period to current times
>I could have seen the process how games develop and actually be hyped about something
>cannot because I'm used to current era and playing old games is a no go

It fucking sucks. When I'm older, I wont have the same kind of memories

>>712941636
Toriyama is based as fuck for bringing his waifu to the real world

>>712937315
Fantasian is cool but it didn't have enough to the gameplay for me to really stay interested.

>>712949416
what >>712949701 said, it's a true masterpiece and the most mature FF game

>>712950298
>playing old games is a no go

is there a sniper trained on you for when you open gog

>>712933473
>>712930846
hard agree, older final fantasy games let you enjoy the world around you more than newer games which feel like they're trying to push you from one area to the next as quickly as possible. i've associated the final fantasy series with being able to appreciate the environment the games are trying to portray to the players through visual elements that newer final fantasy games feel completely foreign to me after ffx

>>712935591
Fuck off simp, this is a videogame thread.

>>712951869
she gave some exposure to the game at least

>>712930846
>Watching Sin destroy Zanarkand at the theater over and over

When are we getting FFX3

>>712926172 (OP)
better version
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5P6-V7J5S-0

>>712935591
trying to relive the moment vicariously through reaction content is my shameful guilty pleasure.

>>712953851
Fuck that, gimme FFX-0! I want the roadtrip with Jecht, Braska and Auron.

>>712926172 (OP)
The last FF game with actual soul in it. I can't believe my first exposure to the game was the fugly HD remaster. The characters all look like fucking Play-Doh. Next time I'm replaying the game, it's the original PS2 one for sure. Also gonna touch X-2 someday as well.. despite what some think about it

>>712954450
>Also gonna touch X-2 someday as well.. despite what some think about it
It's not bad, it's just different and not as good. It's also very frivolous in comparison.

>>712954340
i think that's pretty common

>>712926172 (OP)
>It's the last Sakaguchi game, it's the last Uematsu game. Hell, it's literally the last Squaresoft Final Fantasy before the m*rger
No that was base FFXI

>>712926172 (OP)
X is not my favorite of the series by any measure, but I bought a pack of those FF cards the other day and it had a foil "Ride Ze Shoopuff". That amused me more than anything else in the last couple weeks.

>>712943042
updated version

>>712955164
i sperged out and bout 3 9packs and got a foil tidus and few other cards that feature X character.

>>712946204
>People having different tastes is somehow all because they let internet influence their tastes, everyone should only have MY tastes
Stop being a fucking retard bro

>>712943042
>>712955805
>father comes to respect his son
>son comes to understand and honor his father

very rare theme for jarpigs, kinda kino tbqh

>>712956331
just admit you never played the game

>>712956485
No I haven't, and I'm not the guy you were answering to either. I'm planning to play it though, but I was mostly answering regarding the Raven and Starfire bit. Kinda stupid

>>712956665
raven is annoying and sucks horse dick
starfire is a super tradwife
the choice is obvious

>>712926172 (OP)
It's also Baja blast kino