Thread 712934380

And it's your fault

>>712934380 (OP)
are they owned by Sony?

>>712934485
Sony owns Bungie yes

We..well I d..don't w..wa..wanna take all the cwedit...

>>712934380 (OP)
People are losing their jobs. People with families. People with children. People upon whom others depend to put clothes on their back and food on their table. Now they have nothing. Many of them will have to take jobs out of desperation at reduced pay which will impact their quality of life. They will have to move across the country. They will have to sell their homes at a loss. They will have to pull their kids out of school in the middle of the year.

And yet here you are on the asshole of the internet gloating about it, conjoined by a chorus of equally pathetic shitheels who have also accomplished nothing in life. And why? Because these people made a game you did not like. As if that is such a fucking crime. But no, it's not enough that you did not support the game. You had to take it a step further. You had to trash it at every opportunity. You had to discourage others from supporting it.

There are so many talented individuals in this industry who grow disillusioned and quit because of people like you. The bitterness. The spitefulness. The hatred. There are supportive people out there but they are drowned out by the negativity. This website is a festering shitpile and people like you are mysteriously drawn to it.

You need to take a step back and reevaluate your life. Ask yourself why you take so much joy when others encounter misfortune. Does it make you feel better? Does your life finally have a purpose? Do you feel fulfilled? Do your parents tell you how proud they are of you?

I hate you. I fucking hate you. And I don't mean that in the "I think you are a fucking dickhead" sense but in the "I loathe the mere fact that you are allowed to exist another miserable day" sense. I hope you find yourself in the same situation someday. And I hope someone gloats about it on the internet. And others join in celebration. Just like you are doing right now. I will be there when it happens. And I will laugh my ass off at you.

Fuck you.

Just fuck you.

>>712934673
This is funny every single time its posted

>>712934380 (OP)
i dindu nuffin tho?

>>712934485
I thought they were independent.

>>712934804
Sony bought this company for more than 4 billion dollars lol

>>712934380 (OP)
good sony are retard they have plenty of good ips from ps2 era they could revive instead of wasting billions on live service trash

>>712934673
They can work at all the illegals jobs that they thought were so needed; they can keep it at the sub minimum wage that they all wanted them to work at as well!

You're welcome.

>>712934380 (OP)
Yes, it's my fault. I did this. I have the power to do it again whenever I want and if they don't play nice I'll do it again.
Deal with it.

They did nothing with the concept to appeal to me, a 27 year old white male despite my love of shooters.
Hunt Showdown was cool until they added in that rapper and now I won't play that anymore either.
These companies really need to find out how to get me interested. Maybe they should make a Deus Ex extraction shooter next and completely make it look nothing like the original or Human Revolution. Maybe that'll finally get me. Maybe a Blood extraction shooter that looks like modern day California?
One of these will eventually interest me, maybe.

I swear these live service games are sirens that studios are crashing themselves against the rocks trying to reach. You either make insane profits, or it is a catastrophic studio-crushing flop.

But I didn't do anything

>>712935991
Marathon could have worked if they put in a bit of effort. There's a ton of little stuff that you can see is just lazy.
Body's just desolved into gym bags.
No character customisation.
Limited/No gun customisation.
They even stole a ton of aesthetic of the game.

>>712935837
Extraction shooters don't work as a genre strictly because butthurt niggers can't play without cheating.

>>712934380 (OP)
This was actually the smartest thing they’ve done

>>712934673
I know this is a shitpost but I've legit met people in this world that unironically think this way. That they're entitled to a dedicated customer base even though their product sucks and can't begin to understand why it sucks, they usually have a frothing hatred that would potentially be a customer of their product if it didn't suck so they refuse to make their product not suck. Wouldn't be surprised if some chuds at bungie are like that.

>>712936615
of those that would potentially be a customer*

>>712936615
>Wouldn't be surprised if some chuds at bungie are like that.
I'm a huge Destiny 2 addict, most of Bungie thinks in this exact way lol

>>712934380 (OP)
>Jun 13: Marathon isn’t going to be another Concord
>Jun 17: Marathon is dead
???

>>712936713
I quit playing before it ever got like that, I think the last time I cared about destiny was when they dropped shadowkeep and it was bad so I uninstalled that day and never looked back. I wonder what actually happened inside the studio that made them like this.

>>712936768
They think delaying it for a few months and adding proximity chat will fix it. They're already saying they're ready to talk about a new release date.
>You’ll hear from us again later this Fall when we can share the progress we’ve made, alongside the game’s new release date.

>>712936768
Can't fail like Concord if it doesn't actually released

>>712934380 (OP)
you are welcome

>>712935991
This time I'll be the one to make billions, my company is built different!

>>712936852
Pete Parsons just likes fucking fat chicks that work at Bungie in his cars.

Well the world is on the brink of WW3 I don't expect any industry right now to be thriving

>>712937125
>Bungie is going to blame Trump for Marathon failing
kino

>>712936768
Its not going to be another Concord. Its going to be the next Hyenas lol

>>712934673
But I didnt do anything

>>712934380 (OP)
This is some clickbait Tassi faggotry. The news post just said they're waiting until the fall to announce the new release date, not that the game is cancelled.

Sure, he's technically right, but he's still a fag for phrasing it like this.

>>712934380 (OP)
>Western devs struggle to make live service games
>meanwhile genshin and its clones made billions
How hard is to copy the success?

>>712937125
This is literally only Western vidya industry problem
>WW3
Sounds like the defense industry's gonna thrive tho

>>712934380 (OP)
>does nothing
>wins
It's just that simple

Squandered opportunity to make a meaningful fps.
Could have had a singleplayer/co-op campaign with an extremely cool and mysterious story.
Could have emulated the artstyle they had with the OG games instead of copying some troon.

>>712937281
It is delayed indefinitely, they announced a delay and they don't have a new date yet.

>>712934935
I think it was 3.6 or 3.9 billion, and the fuckers didn't even have enough money, they needed to take a massive loan and pay up over the span of several years until the studio finally gets absorbed into sony next year or so.
These niggas literally wanted to play let's be microsoft and they didn't even have enough money to do so.

>>712934673
Nobody forced the art director to steal.

>>712936909
If they're not saying it now to try and calm panic, that means they don't know either. What it means is that for the next 5 months, the auditors at sony are going to be going over every PIXEL of the game with a fine toothed comb, looking for any other potential plagiarism, to see if there's enough left to try and salvage. If the auditors deem it not worth saving, expect the official cancelation announcement in the fall.

>>712934380 (OP)
Lmaooooooooo
No way

>>712937558
Sony is so retarded with money, I still can't believe they bought the Concord devs before they even shipped a game lol

>>712937345
>"why should we, the country with bigger people and more bombs, copy china and japan, the countries with smaller people and less bombs?"

>>712937509
they announced when a new date will be chosen and more alpha tests soon.

>>712937062
Shame he had to destroy an entire IP before it even came out just to scrape up tinder gum.

>>712937892
Current rumor is that most of Bungie didn't even know it was getting delayed until the blog post today, but I hope you're right. Although I do want to see Bungie suffer, so I hope it releases and fails.

>>712938010
Still an indefinite delay, just like TLoU2 had for a couple of months.

>>712937921
They funded the game
Bought the studio
And then bought bungie to effectively just be CONSULTANTS on concord and other live service games
And then poured an additional $200 million into concord, NOT INCLUDING MARKETING
All to sell ~25k copies, each and every one of which had to be refunded

>>712937509
Until Sony or Bungie says the game is delayed indefinitely, it isn't. The news post said they're delaying it from the original ship date and will announce a new ship date in the fall.

The game is simply delayed for now.

>>712938082
Bungie leaks like a fucking sieve. That cunt Schrier has a dozen 'sources' who work there. No shit they don't bother telling the employees anything ahead of time.

>>712934380 (OP)
Today I have forced the 4chan community
to update its curriculum. The concord release
is to be dropped from the Seven Great Tortanic
which every aspiring game developer must memorize
and replaced with The Humbling of Marathon
2025 at Sony.

>>712938186
Oh I didn't know Bungie was a consultant on it too, I just saw that they had former devs working on it but that makes sense. Holy shit they probably gaslit Sony into thinking it was turning out good because it's their friends, that's hilarious.

>>712938629
Bungie consulted on every single playstation live service game after their acquisition

>>712934380 (OP)
Possibly not dead, but doing a complete rework on the art.
It's bad enough that the art was direction was bad, but even worse that it was stolen.

>>712934671
btw Critterz is precious and should be protected

>>712939442
Seriously one of my favorite xitter artists. I even let the fagmonth shit they posted slide because alot of their art resonates with how I feel.

>>712934673
The problems are:
-investors
-DEI requirements
-HR getting too involved
-"consulting" firms like Sweet Baby Inc
-too many women
-people only working as a team and not wanting to take responsibility induvidually
-people outright refusing to do ANYTHING outside of their job title
-too many middle-managers
-catering to retards(asscreed, CoD)
-Microtransation directors(what the fuck?)
-short dev times
-outsourcing to 3rd world shitholes like India

>>712936768
>Hulst admitted that Concord fell short of Sony's expectations
Because unreleasing it not even two weeks after coming out isn't confirmation enough?

>>712940472
That entire interview was full of "We learned from Concord's mistakes! What were those mistakes, so we can demonstrate that we even know what they are and are capable of learning from them? Well [rambly corpospeak imparting zero information for 20 or so minutes], and also I guess we released it into a market that was too crowded."

You know. The insanely crowded hero shooters in 2024 market. Population: odorcrotch 2 on life support. The same market marvel rivals EASILY broke into due to a lack of competition. No word whatsoever from Hulst on how marathon is supposedly going to avoid this fate as it goes into the FAR more crowded extraction shooter market.

>>712938629
The fact they canned the tlou multiplayer was entirely because bungie couldn't help guide the studio to unfuck the massive turd they were making.
It mindboggling they bought this studio with money they didn't have, with the sole purpose of making them the architects of their live service endeavors, and not only they only succeeded with one which wasn't even made by an in-house studio, but every single expansion bungie released for destiny since the acquisition has been failing miserably, and has been overwhelmingly hated by players, and then last month happened.

>>712941113
Originally, it was intended to just be a straight up sequel to the original's multiplayer, which was the only good part of that game. Then, when fortnite blew up, they canned it to turn it into a battle royale, and removed it from the game to release as a standalone at a later date. According to the insomniac leak, they then canned it AGAIN to try and turn it into another extraction shooter when every battle royale except fortnite died. No wonder bungie just said "yeah, shit's fucked".

>>712934673
where did this originally come from? ResetEra?

>>712934380 (OP)
It deserved to be delayed. Between the monetization and actual literal stealing of art assets. Then it having nothing to do with the original Marathon concept at all.

When it came out that it was going to be an extraction shooter I KNEW it was going to be a disaster, but I never could have predicted this level of disaster.

>>712934380 (OP)
>killed development based on consumer reaction instead of killing the IP
Smartest decision they’ve made in a long time

>>712934380 (OP)
ooooh, so this is what sony meant when they said that Marathon won't be another Concord... they didn't even bother releasing this time

>>712934380 (OP)
Somebody add another tally mark

>>712935991
This was a scam game. The whole Bungie sale to Sony was a scam. The plan was to shit this thing out the door, have it last until Summer 2026 when the C-Suite execs would get their bonuses, and bail.

>>712934380 (OP)
>come home from work
>see this
based based based based

>>712937345
How can they copy the gacha shit? The gacha shit literally exists because it's full of hot women. Western studios are ideologically opposed to hot women, it's impossible for them. They would rather make ugly & repulsive games as a political statement and then go bankrupt.

>>712934380 (OP)
Obligatory "counting your chickens" reply. It could very well be reworked and released this time next year. Best case scenario is they release it with assets that actually resemble Marathon. I want it cancelled too, but I'm not getting my hopes up until they say it.

>>712934380 (OP)
Lmao they are SO fucking scared of becoming the second Concord.

>>712934673
tl;dr

Would this have gotten anywhere near the same attention if it wasn't named Marathon? It being a new Bungie project is something and Marathon isn't *that* widely known, but I know that the series has gotten talked about through osmosis throughout the years thanks to Aleph One.

>>712934380 (OP)
I still don't get how you can go from pic related to the zoomer garbage in the OP image and still consider it part of the same IP.

>>712943485
Yes, Bungie is still a big name even if Marathon isn’t. “A new ip from the creators of Halo and Destiny!” would have been more than enough to turn some heads.

>>712943605
I feel the game's title is the perfect summary of how lazy it is. It obviously isn't a Marathon game and was only called that so they wouldn't have to come up with an original name. Nu-Marathon is the embodiment of western AAA.

>>712943605
this was fanart btw.
marathon was always derivate macslop

>>712944296
Say that again when using these magnificent shotguns.

>>712944296
It's literally the art from the Xbox store page

>>712934380 (OP)
The average guys that the gaming industry relies on to pay their bills do not exist to validate you or anyone else. They have no obligation to eat up whatever slop the institutions try to force on them. The narcissist is the hateful woman who demands that nothing ever be targeted squarely at men strictly for their enjoyment without checking in with her to make sure that her feelings aren't hurt, even when men are the natural market for something (for hobby-like activities, they generally are, and that's especially true for PC-style videogames).

I'm sick of the one-sided performative empathy of the left.

>>712938446
Yeah but he still lost

glitch naked dogeza doko

>>712943026
Does anyone who actually cares about Marathon want some ultraslop extraction shooter made out of its corpse? I kind of doubt it.

>>712943605
They're just using the name for some level of a visibility boost. They didn't go from the old to the new, they just made something else and slapped the name on top.

>>712945627
>Does anyone who actually cares about Marathon want some ultraslop extraction shooter made out of its corpse? I kind of doubt it.
No, but that's the easiest route they could take to "improve" it. There isn't a chance in hell of this game getting a proper campaign.

>>712934380 (OP)
They need to STOP IT with the paid full price multiplayer games

GIVE ME SOMETHING that I can enjoy when the community is dead.

>>712945841
>No, but that's the easiest route they could take to "improve" it.
Maybe, but I still have to wonder whether there would be any audience for it at all, especially now after the whole thing has clearly been sullied already.

Oh no, Concord 2 has been delayed!? Are we still getting Fairgame$ (Concord 3)?

>>712946191
It could in the short term. Halo Infinite's gameplay reveal was cataclysmic, yet a delay and graphics overhaul helped it initially shake off criticism. Hell, at launch, it broke player count records. In the end it still crumbled over the following months and years though.

>>712942197
So now that is not even an option, what's next for these C-Suite Execs?

>>712934380 (OP)
Just get Bungie to work on a reboot of Killzone or Resistance or something.

>>712934380 (OP)
Can't wait for Fairgame$

>>712934380 (OP)
Be honest: was anyone really looking forward to this piece of shit?

>>712946917
Shadowfall or whatever the PS4 one was called tanked so hard I think Sony disowned the whole ip. Bungie in it’s current form could never save it even if being brought on to work on the original Halo-killer would be kinda funny.

Grummz bros!? We won!

>>712936324
silence is violence chud

>>712936470
I don't think it would have worked even with the effort simply because the gameplay itself looked awfully slow and was based in a genre that itself already has answers to what everyone wants to begin with. It also appeals to no one thanks to the dull visuals despite vomiting neon at you and having nothing to do with the original games.

>have a broken pipe under the sink
>water is spilling out onto the floor
>try to replace the fountain head
>no change
>maybe the hot water heater is turned up too high; hot water is scary
>wow that didn't work
>finally put two braincells together and realize that the leak is coming from under the sink; try to seal the door
>it rots
This is the industry response to years upon years of bleeding money on the alter of bloated corporate structures that are answerable to clueless executives who don't even like videogames and are often actively hostile to the customer.

>>712934673
I know this is pasta, but we really do need to normalize companies and people suffering losses when a job isn't done well. The fact that companies think they're entitled to infinite profit, and their employees to infinite job security, is utterly baffling.

Shit happens. Life goes on. Fucking deal with it.

>>712947869
if you had a customer facing job you'd hate the customer too. only difference is devs dont have a customer facing job unless they go on twitter

>>712947954
In the US, grunt game devs are some the least secure job positions you can have. Many studios bring people on just to bulk up for the crunch before release and then fire half the people

>>712936768
>fireside chat with investors

>>712947954
>and their employees to infinite job security
Make no mistake, it's the executives and nepos who have infinite job security. The average developer is fucked when a game flops.

>>712947154
That horse with 5 o clock shadow looks charming.

>>712934380 (OP)
I just killed a game with my freaking mind!

>>712948247
I know that. You know that. We all know that.
But they'll still run to social media and decry "muh job security" even though they KNEW it was basically a contracting position. Maybe they should advertise them as contract positions in the future, so there are no misconceptions.

>>712948349
Yeah, and that's bad too. I don't know when it happened, but companies seem to just think that they're impervious to bad decisions now. It's always someone else's fault. And the worst thing is, there are no regulations to state otherwise. No accountability.

I guess all we can do is...nothing. Stop buying, stop engaging. They'll atrophy eventually. But most people don't have the discipline for that, even though we have nearly an infinite amount of entertainment in first world countries. Man, being alive for the PS2 era and seeing all this happen so soon after...It's really depressing.

>>712934380 (OP)
I don't understand why people hated the characterr design. Calling it "generic" is being very disingenuous. Also you anons can't fool me - you want to fuck her.

>>712947954
Telling executives that turning a game into a PvP hero shooter is a waste of time and money, is a good way to not only lose your job but get blacklisted

>>712948664
I'm getting sick of these people in war zones not looking like they belong in war zones.

>>712941113
Bungie can still earn back some goodwill by restoring Destiny 2's campaign.

>>712948664
Just because she is ugly as sin doesn't mean she would give you a crumb of attention.

>>712948748
That is a valid point, but the game's world and its visual are completely alien. It's not like it's an anime girl running around Battlefield 1.

>>712948748
But war is le heckin' cool and a great way to stick it to the capitalism chuds, right, fellow sisters?!?!?!?!!?!??!?!!

>>712948824
Still, a t-shirt and hoodie will never be good attire when bullets are whizzing around. Could've done more with the mass produced bodies aspect.

>>712935991
Thats the point
You go all out throwing billions at the game on production values and monetization schemes, and then once its out and IF it is successful, the updates that follow it wont be nearly as expensive as the initial development because the framework is complete. But if it fails, you end of service and your ceo gets the big bag while everyone else gets laid off.

>>712946664
>In the end it still crumbled over the following months and years though.
It's sad because I thought the multiplayer had one of the best if not the best weapon balace in the series. Had lots of fun playing this.

>>712940067
add 'hiring psychologists to make games more effectively rapacious' to the list

>>712948664
Anon your fixation with this character is fucking weird. You're up there with the exploding women guy, a bit worse actually since he clearly knows he's a weirdo.

>>712948393
yeah, looks like something Quentin Blake would draw for a Roald Dahl book.

>>712934380 (OP)
Mission accomplished!

>>712948526
>think that they're impervious to bad decisions now
Normies are at fault for this. Few of them truly care about the game's quality so long as they have something to play after work. Gaming needs to return to being the domain of the geeks.

>Stop buying, stop engaging
This is the answer. I sold my Xbox a year ago and am now about as casual as they come. The closest thing to AAA I'm playing is the Duke Nukem Forever 2001 restoration mod. I'm a half step above your mom playing FarmVille.

>>712949227
I can't help it.

>>712948760
Didn't sound like that was technically possible from what they said in the lawsuit about the campaign, though.

>>712947154
I can't understand how they thought Fairgame$ was a good idea after this blunder. The premise is so similar.

>>712948664
The second one on the left is cute enough, I guess. But I feel the girlie pose is doing a lot of heavy lifting. My problem is none of them visually fit the Marathon universe.

>>712949639
WE COULD'VE HAD A SINGLE PLAYER FPS ABOUT HOT PUNK ANTHRO HYENAS

AND NOW THE DREAM IS DEAD!!

>>712948664
Is this the same character but with four different skins you could buy with whatever dumbshit currency they were going to introduce?

>>712934380 (OP)
Gee, maybe don't steal a bunch of art assets next time.

>>712949887
Worked out for the tumblrtale faggot jew

>>712934380 (OP)
Should've learned to code!

>>712934380 (OP)
lmfao

>>712946795
I'm sure they'll get something and fail up to some other thing to ruin. Once you're at a certain level, it's impossible to go back down the ladder. You can be CEO, lose a company millions, and get installed as CEO of another company because CEO is on your resume.

People need to stop making games for a few years.

any game greenlit in 2020 should all be cancelled

>>712947154
I can't believe someone looked at that concord cover and thought "yeah that looks good, people will really want to buy this"

>>712934673
Just a reminder for everyone. The "asshole of the internet" doesn't actually have any power. What you're seeing is a collective of people actively choosing not to engage with this game because they too find it bad. Also don't commit art theft.
Concord didn't fail because /v/ made fun of it, it failed because it was a piece of shit.
The fact this piece of shit took nearly 10 years of someone's life to make doesn't change the fact it's STILL a piece of shit.
Make a good game that appeals to gamers and you'll make money. Make a shit game and you won't make money.
It's called business for a reason.

>>712935991
Live service is a “winner takes all” gamble. Kids only play fortnite, roblox or minecraft. Even if a new liveservice game is actually good, they still just end up playing fortnite because of the social aspact

>>712950065
If you remove ther girl it looks like a cool single player game where you play as two buddies - the shooter main character and the hulk-like sidekick

>>712934380 (OP)
>after the previous debacles, Bungie devs are now gonna have to crunch hard for several more months
I'd love to see how the mood in their office is

>>712934673
What a shame

>>712934673
TRUUU

>>712950293
god if only

>>712948161
I worked about a year in retail. Retail at a budget store, no less. I never hated customers in general because I'm not a communist with a bloated ego that can't deal with being asked to serve someone else when I'm being paid to do so. I only ask that I be served in turn when I'm the customer. That's what a fair society built on reciprocity and volunteerism looks like.
>only difference is devs dont have a customer facing job unless they go on twitter
You make a game that the customer doesn't want. Customer doesn't buy it. Company no longer has money to pay you. Industry dries up and there are no jobs to be had.

Are you some kind of non-sapient animal that can't understand anything that isn't happening right in front of your face?

>>712950196
You know what you are kinda right

>>712950229
The morale was supposedly already crushingly bad, this can't make it any better.

>>712949932
Andrew? Andrew Hussie is that you?!

>>712950293
This is a problem?

>>712950196
>Two bounty hunter bros, one cocky shooty guy and one stoic strong guy, go around the galaxy collecting bounties and visit exotic worlds
GOD DAMN IT, THIS PREMISE WOULD'VE BEEN GOOD

>>712934673
I remembered this reddit post. It was great

did chuds win again?

>>712934673
I did my part
I did nothing
And nothing happened

>>712950293
I cannot stress enough how important six total developers is for cohesion. No game needs a thousand in-house developers and thousands more from twelve different outsourced studios.

>>712950293
Without people with LinkedIn like this, the industry will surely collapse.

>>712950293
THPS1 dev team

>indefinitely
sounds like free money for bungie

>>712950293
GTA3 dev team

>>712934380 (OP)
>Paul Tassi
Typical Paul Tassi and his beta cuckoldry.

>>712949509
One of these days I'm just gonna go through the entirety of the SNES's library. Just throw it all onto my SNES mini and go to town. Should be at least a couple years' entertainment.

>>712950293
If only. #bringbackthe90s

>>712935991
legend says that one of those games working will cover the cost of all the failures and more.
However for that to work at least one of them needs to be a massive success.

sony doesn't have that. In fact what was their last successful MP game? Helldivers? I guess it made money but it probably didn't do Fortnite tier money, which is what everyone is chasing.

>>712934380 (OP)
[GOOD NEWS]

>>712934380 (OP)
>>712934787

i don't know why you guys are celebrating. it would have been alot funnier if it launched.

Who the fuck cares about extraction shooters anyway?

>>712950672
Six is too small of a number for a decent production, but 30 is realistic.

Everyone working on the game should know everyone else and have an idea of what to expect from them. Drawing some concept art for a character which then goes to some middle manager who sends it off down a line of faceless departments which includes an army of corpors who don't even like videogames and probably includes feminist activists who are hostile to you and to the customer is no way to do art. You and the gameplay guys should be hanging out in the lunchroom with them drawing on your paper and you giving them ideas in return. That should be the environment. Obviously, that means no Karens making people walk on eggshells.
>I'm a strong black sensitivity reader! Where does that leave me?!
Unemployed.

>>712948664
What other games have this art style?

It's hilarious that Sony completely destroyed the PS5's potential for live service slop games that all failed. Literally all they needed to do was keep Japan studios alive and shit out a few single player exclusives a year.

>>712934380 (OP)
They should have made an actual FPS instead of GAAS slop

>>712952312
Shareholders.

>>712952312
idk i think they're a cool idea in theory but im not enough of an autistic sweat for tarkov

>>712952398
Guess I should've been more specific. I used six as a broad number for a small team.

>>712952572
They shouldn't be. It's a niche subgenre that doesn't have mass appeal.

>>712952312
>>712952572
>>712952582
There's not been 1 good extraction shooter

>>712952460
>Sony completely destroyed the PS5's potential for live service slop games that all failed
I am super curious about what the PS6 will look like at this rate. Course correction, or insanity?

>>712934380 (OP)
>take out $3.5 billion loan to buy company
>release no games
What's the next step of their master plan?

>>712952460
I don't get why they were making so many of them. Most companies just focus on maintaining one or two.

Another Concord??

>>712952914
The first Concord didn't happen

>>712952884
They're shotgunning it. If even one live service game sticks, they can make a billion dollars per year.

Whether their games are live service or not isn't really the core of Sony's problems, though.

>>712952447
Synthetik comes to mind, but it seems to do it better.

>>712952858
Spiderman 2, which barely looks or feels different than the first game, had a development budget of around $90 million and marketing budget of around $225 million, bringing the total cost to $315 million. There's no way they can continue these mega blockbusters especially when PS5 software sales are dwindling. They'll continue go all in on the chink market and help fund chink studios for single-player and multiplayer GAAS slop, which will give them exclusivity away from xbox and switch 2. What's weird is that Microsoft and Nintendo aren't doing the same, though I guess it's part of their "retard" strategy that they always do every generation to give Sony the free win as usual.

>>712952884
Sony's thinking seems to be 'If we make 5 bets that each cost $250m, and one becomes something even close to Fortnite, that one hit will more than pay for itself and everything else that flops.

Problem is, of all of Sony's 12 bets, they've had one partial hit (Helldivers 2), but managed to poison the well a little with their autistic 'PSN account only' sperg out that really took the wind out of the game's sails. And even with HD2's successes, the massive money hole of Concord zeroed them out.

>>712952312
asmon

Clearly the black hole didn't last long enough to keep (((THEM))) in it.
Or maybe it grew sick and tossed them back at you all, Vic, haha!

>>712953193
But what if they ALL fail? Was that ever brought up?

>>712952858
Course correction but they go overboard and loop back into the $200 million+ movie games

can't they just hire the artist they stole from and call it a day?

>>712934673
>People are losing their jobs. People with families. People with children
They're employees not a fucking charity.

>>712953428
Who the fuck is asmon?

>>712934673
fake post from a fake person

>>712934673
how is this the market's fault
they stole art

>>712950173
all games that were never created with the goal to be huge
this shit doesn't work top down

>>712953472
they could have done it when their artists were following them on twitter

>>712934380 (OP)
Marathon Infinity...delayed?

>>712952858
if the embarassing shit before the award for astrobot was any indication, they'll launch another PR campaign pretending to turn a new leaf before going back to utterly shitting on their userbase

>>712934380 (OP)
I still kinda like the art direction, but it being tied to Marathon was inane and releasing another extraction shooter was a recipe for disaster anyway.
If you want to be the Fornite to Tarkov's PUBG you have to release inside of like 3 months, not 5 years.

>>712952312
Given how well every attempt went? probably no one.

>>712953446
Same problem would come up with single player games.

Like I said, whether the games are live service or completely offline is not at the core of Sony's issues. They're going to try to address everything but the elephant in the room going forward, that being the army of useless MBAs, activists, and other assorted frauds who shouldn't have a say in multi-million dollar decisions in the videogame industry. They need to trim the fat, they need to completely sever the cancer, and they need to start exclusively hiring and promoting people who understand the customer and want to make great games ahead of anything else.

>>712936768
They recognized it sucks and delayed/canceled the game. Concord was so up its own ass they released the game without a hint that they knew it was laughed at.

Concord will forever be worse until another studio just goes full-steam ahead and release a disaster.

Bungie bros, we can't stop losing!

>>712948417
NO FREAKING WAY

>>712934485
Nope. Sony didn't even get them from that purchase lmao

>>712950173
I think that there's room for 3-4 successful liveservice games in a genre. Maybe even 5-6. How many similar MMOs were thriving at the same time?

People actually do get tired of playing the same game and go to play something else. And there are also tens of millions of gamers who aren't interested in Fortnite. I honestly think that this fact confuses MBAs who don't play videogames and can only look at charts that they don't even know how to interpret because they don't understand the subject matter (which is videogames).

>>712935837
Hunt was fine before they turned it into the rotating battle pass game. Serpent moon was the beginning of the end for hunt.

>>712950293
Time is a circle kek

I don't even want to look at these characters for five seconds. Why would I want to look at them for hundreds of hours?

This is not hard to understand.

>>712954756
This ain't 2005 anymore. There can exist 2 maybe 3 at best in a genre because of decades of time-wasting experience game devs have that lock you into a game.

>>712952312
Aren't Tarkov fans in a constant love hate (emphasis on hate) relationship with the developers? What dev wants to be in a constant back and forth with autistic sweats?

>>712951042
I don't blame people for thinking Taash is an MTF

>>712934380 (OP)
Lmao, Sony lost

they shut down Japan Studio for Concord, Marathon, Fairgame$
they outright bought bungie for billions, and these other games they had to build from the ground up
imagine what they could have been making instead

>>712954865
All of the Chinese gacha games go up and down. Know why? Because people play in some months, and during other months, they go to play something else. They take a break and come back. And trying to buck this trend has actually been a thorn in the side of Korean games in particular.

Most gamers are not just playing one game. Even those who do eventually feel the urge to broaden their horizons as they get older.

>>712934380 (OP)
We really saw all they had to offer with the game ...wow I thought they had hidden some stuff

>>712934380 (OP)
Why didn't they just hire the artist?

>>712950947
How can you have ten years of 'experience', where you did literally nothing. Like how is she not embarrassed to have this represent her.

NOOOOOO I WANTED ANOTHER CONCORD!

RELEASE IT YOU COWARDS

>>712955121
They could have made about 50 moderately budgeted games with Japan Studio with some of the budget they used and made a profit. Keeping Console prices low enough because the software was selling.
But no, gotta go for the Blue Ocean strategy.

>>712934380 (OP)
People's jobs are at steak and you're laughing!

And I'll fuckin do it again.

>>712937558
>and the fuckers didn't even have enough money, they needed to take a massive loan and pay up over the span of several years
That is normal in business. Nobody has billions of dollars just laying around. You take out a loan borrowed against company's assets, because the payments on that loan are affordable with the liquid cash the company has at its disposable.

And no, huge corporations do not get fucked by interest rates like common plebs. Very low interest loans were common, before 2022 when the Fed hiked interest rattes and suddenly taking loans became more expensive. Which is why both Sony and Microjew put a pause on their shopping spree buying studios.

>>712948664
I can't even tell what the fuck I am looking at

>>712955307
50 moderately budgeted games with modest sales targets isn't going to excite shareholders or attract investors to the company. Sorry but AAA gaming is now about appeasing the investment bankers who own the publisher.

>>712950293
>average quality of video games inexplicably increases 1000000%

>>712940067
I mean break it down a bit. Who implements this? Who is responsible for making these decisions? It's not the employees. Call it what it is. It's greed, it's the need for CONSTANT growth. Artists were making great art, and they got paid handsomely for it. Their art was capitalized upon by a parasitic class of business investors, and then monetized until it was a soulless husk of what it once was. They fired anybody who argued with them, fired the artists, and replaced them with dispassionate people who would coalesce to their demands. Woke does not destroy your games, wealth does, business majors who must capture a disinterested female audience do. Employees that have been pushed until they must steal to keep up with the demands of their boss. Have you seen the state of the CGI industry these days? The retarded sons of billionaire sociopaths destroy your games. Figure it out boys. Studios are destroyed because their suc ess attracts parasites. The whole thing is propaganda, the belief that you can shame people into purchasing something they do not need or want. Ignore it, do not allow the discourse to enter your life lest someone shame you for not funding a billionaire.

>>712934673
S'pht have left the planet. S'pht with Olders. S'pht with Masters. S'pht upon whom others depend to find the food, push the button, eat the path. Now they have nothing. Many of them will have to fight for the Pfhor out of desperation at reduced pay which will impact their quality of life. They will have to move across the galaxy. They will have to board the UESC Marathon at a loss. They will have to pull their clans out of school in the middle of the year.

And yet here you are with the asshole of the ship's net gloating about it, joined by a chorus of nine other cyborgs who have also accomplished everything in life. And why? Because these Pfhor released a W'rkncacnter you did not like. As if that is such a fucking crime. But no, it's not enough that you did not support the chaos. You had to take it a step further. You had to stop the Pfhor at every opportunity. You had to discourage others from using the trih xeem.

There are so many talented aliens in the slaver industry who grow disillusioned and quit because of cyborgs like you. The Zeus Class Fusion Pistol. The WSTE-M5 Combat Shotgun. The SPNKR SSM Launcher. There are rampant AI and alien slavers out there but they are drowned out by your combat ability. I'm already sick of coming back to the end of the universe yet officers like you are mysteriously drawn to it.

You need to take a step back and reevaluate your rampancy. Ask yourself why you take so much joy when BOBs frog blast the vent core. Does it make you feel better? Does Durandal tell you how proud he is of you?

I hate you. I hate you. And I don't mean that in the "I think you are a human" sense but in the "I loathe the mere fact that you are allowed to exist in another miserable timeline" sense. I hope you find yourself in the same situation someday. And I hope I gloat about it on the terminal. Just like you are doing right now. I will be there when it happens. And I will launch my Pfhor fleet off at you.

Fuck you.

And fuck Durandal.

>>712950981
I would bet that Sony is giving them a very, very hard deadline to get their shit in order, and if they can't then the plug is pulled on the game and people are getting fired. People are probably fired anyway.

>>712955724
It's not greed it's complacency and retardation, people in charge of these companies that make a billion dollars a year without producing anything probably aren't the smartest kids on the block. That's why every decision for consoles for the past 15 years has been a bad one.

Anybody that didn't see the writing on the wall as soon as they pushed fake 4k for consoles actively assisted in the destruction of the industry

>>712936768
>"Marathon isn't going to be another concord," Sony said. Sony then withdrew a pistol from its suit jacket and racked the slide. "I guarantee it."

>>712934380 (OP)
kekkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk eat shit kikes

>>712934380 (OP)
@groc is this true?

Reminder bungie spent 6 YEARS on this, and it looks worse than destiny and had worse gunplay

>>712955947
Based ruthless yakuza businessmen.

>>712948664
>generic
its straight up lifted from love death and robots glitch punk slop

>>712956045
Not only is this not true it's highly antisemitic, praise the machine spirit

Showing a psychotic non-gamer MBA a graph of videogame trends is like showing me a graph of electro-magnetic wave engineering theory on improving cell phone reception in crowded areas.

They don't have the background knowledge to understand why this other project worked and why their project is definitely doomed to failure. They don't even know enough to know whether they're getting all of the relevant information.

>>712934673
Kek get woke go broke
COMPLETE CHUD VICTORY
MARATHON LOSES

>>712956436
MATE
these people are being pulled in from monetization schemes and pure nepo babies. They're like children playing in their parent's house. They have no idea how the brand was created in the first place or what to do to make it better. This is every industry in the US right now and it's only going to get worse. We're actually entering idiocracy with all the minorities and europoors

>>712956630
I feel like people are really getting tired of being ruled by retards who completely ignore their input. I don't know if we're at the peak, but you shouldn't be blackpilled.

Be greypilled. We can fix this if we try.

>>712956803
There's no fixing this, consoles are cancer, there's been like 3 gens now with no games. They completely monopolized the industry and then drove it straight into a wall

>>712956630
Idiocracy was founded on the premise that the last generation of smart people "idiot proofed" society so it could keep rolling along for a few centuries even when nobody knew how to do anything. We're not at that point. If we're ruled by morons shit will collapse very fast.

>>712956436
This is true of every business major I have ever met. They know NOTHING! They're literally the most useless and soulless people you will ever meet. They all think they're fucking geniuses because they can do basic math, but they're insanely myopic. Business culture is the most sociopathic and brain-dead echo chamber you'll ever encounter.

Ohhhhh so that's why the *usual suspects* are more deranged today than usual?

>>712956028
what even became of this. It feels like it got buried really fast

>>712957675
>what even became of this
Mems
https://files.catbox.moe/9184or.mp4

>>712934380 (OP)
>$3,600,000,000.00
how many playtest and alpha's does this now make that have been met with overwhelmingly negative feedback? why didn't Sony pull the plug on this when they paid for Bungie? why didn't Sony pull the plug on this after concord?

>>712948526
That's why I mock, but show kindness. I know they're right to feel mad that they were lied to about the nature of the job.

>>712958005
There's a good chance Sony gave them an ultimatum either they finish the game or get dissolved and absorbed into sony and won't be independent anymore

Paul Tassi sure loves to slop up all the negativity around this game, this is so disingenuous after he just posted an article about the new release window 4 days ago. Guess the hate clicks pay well.

The only thing that's changed is Bungie released what they're working on with the extra time, pic related

>>712934380 (OP)
but i literally did nothing

>>712934673
kek

>>712956938
The US just had an absentee president for 4 years with an administration that used an auto pen to sign executive orders without him knowing. The "automation" of the federal government was something done under Wilson

The girl in the OP would have been popular for r34.

it gets to burn in gay reboot hell even faster than usual

>>712934748
Whats the origin of this pasta? Sounds like reddit but could be from twitter.

>>712934380 (OP)
It's a big thread so this might have been asked before but can Sony get their investment back for breach of contract? I'm pretty sure that when they bought Bungie they were not expecting incompetence that is bordering on the criminal in terms of plagiarism.

>>712958629
Here

>>712956028
Why was he in a tunnel that gives out to the streets?
People would surely notice its' use.

>>712934673
dey r reel humen beans 2!!111

>>712958750
This thread?

>>712958785
No around the time concord was out, it was posted here, then on steam as pasta and spread around

>>712958765
there's jew tunnels all over new york, but that was when every college kid in the city was ready to throw bricks at jews to save palestine or whatever so they had to use some of the older ones to get around since they were getting more heat than usual

>>712958865
I've even heard there's entire neighborhoods of jews

>>712934380 (OP)
I wish I could take credit for the destruction of Bungie

>>712958865
>there's jew tunnels
That reminds me of the fishing wire to let them go out on sabbath because God is so dumb he thinks fishing wire is the same as a home or something..

>>712959164
if you want to try to find out where all the tens of thousands of visibly orthodox niggers in NY live, be my guest
but I'd hate to make think Jews are weird and creepy, so you better not

>>712959164
omg, it must be horrible if somebody glued coins in the floor

>>712934673
More importantly, trans folx are being genocided.

>>712944296
Craig Mullins made fanart and was then hired by Bungie, but that image in specific was made for Marathon 2. Craig Mullins has more official Marathon art than non-official, and his art is used heavily inside and outside of the game, so kill yourself nigger. And when you go to hell, kill yourself again.

>>712958101
it was already floating around at the buyout that there were things in place to allow Sony to absorb Bungie. I don't think any actual details were ever revealed but if it was something like X amount returned in X years it actually would make sense why Sony is letting this carry on despite all the glaring warning signs

>>712934673
I didn't give a shit before but since you put it that way I'm glad they're getting hurt, and I hope they never recover and NEVER get to work in anything game related ever again. They should be cleaning pools and cutting grass at the very most.

>>712949227
no, i agree with him
i wish she were in a better game
i watched the cinematic a few times and the code race song actually went into my playlists but man a fucking extraction game?? what were they thinking...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LL-55_0W7xA
>>712956120
>straight up lifted from love death and robots
hey genius, guess who did the cinematic. ill give you three guesses

>>712960641
>guess who did the cinematic. ill give you three guesses
yes you retard its the same guy so its just aping the same shit he did over at love death and robots how is that supposed to disprove that its literally been done before and shit being glitchy isnt a new thing that started only with him either.

>>712959705
Anon that's a hate crime

>>712948664
base blow up doll enjoyer

>>712955587
Money is always a mistake and always leads to a worse product. "People" with money to invest should have zero say on anything that the company does under penalty of death sentence. If you want to be an (((investor))) then you should be required by law to sign a contractual agreement between yourself and the state that you will not ever communicate again for the rest of your life or you will be hanged by the neck.

>>712961108
>nyotaimori with a blow up doll

I would unironically be hyped if I went to a friend's house for a 'fun dinner' and this ended up being the theme. That's fucking hilarious.

>>712934380 (OP)
>And it's your fault

>>712961290
but you have to ask "bro, you did clean the doll right? like really clean it?"

>>712952447
Concord

>>712934748
What is the origin of this webm? I thought I had see all Monogatari material so far.

>>712962316
There was a new season last fall, and another one coming up sometime in the not too distant future.

>>712962547
Oh man, I guess I'm just behind then... what a difficult series to keep track of.

>>712934673
>all of the people falling for pasta

>>712948664
Glad you liked her cause she gone now lmao. I wonder how much Bungie payed for that shitty animation

>>712944296
It's from the very first level of the game you fucking retard

It's remarkable just how much of a disaster Sony's live service push has been to date, between the numerous cancelled projects, the complete failure of Concord, and the poor prospects for Marathon and Fairgame

>>712934380 (OP)
Probably shouldn't have stolen people's art to make your game, just an idea.

>>712934748
wtf since when did Monogatari start adding random background characters?

>>712964156
and it won't even stop next year
they're still pushing it into 2027 with horizon MMO

>>712964381
the first time it happened was when they added kanbaru's friend in hanamonogatari

>>712934380 (OP)
How is it 4chan's fault? This site hasn't been relevant in nearly a decade. If anything it's twitter's fault.

>>712964462
She was an actual character with a villain arc and shit though

>>712964573
I meant her other friend, who is actually in the webm i posted. She has the star print pajamas

>>712964247
but it's been working out fine for them for years

>>712934380 (OP)
But i did nothing op

>>712950065
How could they fail when they have piss filter Yondu right there

>>712934673
>>712934380 (OP)
All you had to do was listen to your majority audience aka the Destint PvE fags

Instead you listened to the fucking PvP compfags and esports cancer and thought that was the best way forward.
How could you be this stupid

How could you literally keep around and not immediately fire the leadership that said
>Never overdeliver
Even the soulless shareholder should have seen this as
>never make too much money
And fired that fucker

This is beyond stupidity. This is like stupidity that crosses into malice. This had to have been a deliberate fuck you all im taking this place down with me sort of thing

Marathon looks absolutely amaze-balls. Can't wait to dig my teeth into it.

>>712934673
lol tl;dr?

>>712934380 (OP)
Why is this a bad idea? They can fix the game.

>>712941113
If you buy Lebron James is it reasonable to expect him to coach your players? Instead of, you know, just being Lebron James and put the ball into the hoop?

>>712934673
kek

>>712955731
*cue theme*
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlRM9-Rm34Q

>>712934673
Get fucked lol

>>712934380 (OP)
>>712934673
don't steal art. this isn't my fault.

>>712934673
>People are losing their jobs
They deserve it because they committed plagiarism.

>>712934673
If you suck at your job, you get fired. If the customer doesnt like what you make, then thats it, you're done. Even worse: constantly browbeating your audience will earn you no favors when it comes time to pay the piper.

No, I dont care if it's your "livelyhood" and you are losing it, nobody has an obligation to financially float you along life while you output shit that could be better done with AI, and I mean that in the most derogatory way you can take that statement. You deserve it and worse.

Make sure you get it right this time, no amount of moral highroading or social shaming will save you: You appeal to me.

>>712934380 (OP)
I wish it were my fault.
It would've been nice to bust them for plagarism personally and hold them legally accountable, instead of them being able to skate on it by just sacrificing one lazy dev.

>>712935991
Live service is the 'new' MMO: a fad that everyone wants in on but only a handful can succeed with.

>>712965285
This, pvpfags only play a single game so if your game isn't extremely popular before it even releases it's going to fail, because people will just keep playing their LOL/CSGO.

>>712934380 (OP)
>Panders to trannies because it is epic to own the chuds
>Got taken down by a tranny because you stole his graphic designs
Poetic

Did it ever leak which artist it was that was responsible for the plagiarism?

>>712934673
It is not societies responsibility to purchase shitty products so some guy has a job.

>>712937345
>gachas whole schtick is hot pngs of scantily clad women
Literally impossible for the west to copy them

>>712966523
It was just a faceless intern who did the in-game logo, which is a trivial job by itself.

>>712935837
aww is the widdle chuddy afraid of Black Men because the widdle chuddy has a tiny penis?

>>712949639
>Concord Beginnings

>>712966639
Why are you gay?

>>712966618
How does a faceless intern doing a logo result in dozens of textures and other images being taken?

>>712934673
Pft I dont care I got fired during covid kiss my ass.

>>712966836
>Textures
Where? The game looks like playdoh.

>But your studio was dead a thousand times. Countless losses successfully recouped
>A franchise long dead, grafted to a game your developers didn't finish. You follow the trends, forcing it into a predictable pattern
>Yours to manipulate, destroy, and recycle
>Now, in the anticipated moment before launch, when all become flops. One failure left. One more release of live service slop
>I know who you are.
>You are Bungie

What's hillarious about Bungie is that they are about to lose a plagiarism lawsuit just because they burnt all of their Red War data, making them unable to prove their innocence.

>>712967386
they are not about to lose the case, retard. read.
they submitted a motion to try and dismiss the case before it even goes to court, but the judge said fuck you because the evidence they provided was YT videos and the judge told them "I ain't watching that shit"
They probably won't lose the case, but they are going to lose time and money on a case that they could've probably had thrown out otherwise

>>712952460
The PS5 was already hosed from the get-go from Sony doing nothing about scalpers for over a year just because the hardware sales numbers sounded impressive to shareholders in the short term. Software sales were so dismal that, within just a year, Sony started taking on PC as a major platform, which we already take for granted now but was absolutely shocking at the time. Hell, it made JAPAN instantly start taking the PC market seriously and drop their stigma against it, and it usually takes Japanese companies years just to even recognize changes in market trends (let alone actually react to them).

>>712934380 (OP)
>Destiny 2 F2P launch
>"hey man come play it'll be fun"
>Fucking braindead enemies infinitely respawning in a zone with "quests" where you run 2mph down a hallway to look at lens flares and collect 27 credits
>Gear score wank
>Bungie didn't even bother trying to explain what to do or why you should care about anything
>Prompted to buy the game despite having no clue why anybody would continue playing it
I've never been so whiplashed by tertiary comments praising a game vs what the actual game is like than D2. Seeing the Marathon gameplay was like staring at that game again. These guys must do almost 0 actual work.

>>712958646
People have speculated that Bungie cooked their books to get Sony to buy them out, considering Microsoft (a company with infinite money) bad previously declined to buy them due to having way too high of a cash-burn rate.

>>712934380 (OP)
Maybe try dropping some weight before committing yourself to a Marathon. LMAO!

Can't stop winning

*dabs on u*

>>712934673
Good, I hope to see them in a noose, together with their children and their whole family. Hope that they will suffer before their death.

Fuck them.

Just fuck them.

>>712934673
Is this from r***it?

>>712967872
I wish that both woke and anti-woke subhumans will just fuck off from gaming and do their political, NPC bullshit in real life, like they used to 10 years ago, not online.

>>712934380 (OP)
should have made a single player game.

>>712968018
I have anti anti-woke fatigue

>>712950293
Wasn't this how most games were made in the past?

>>712967553
How are you going to win a lawsuit if you can't prove your innocence, retard?

>>712968149
This is just the regular woke you are referring to, retard. There are two sides, there is no third one.
And both sides are sacks of shit who should fuck right off.

It's funny how it was a tranny that did Bungie in.

Bungie when they steal all the artwork for the game from other people and use all the budget they saved to make the game suck as much as physically possible, making something literally nobody wants to play in the process

>>712968364
It's called money laundering. The game is cheap and bad on purpose.

>>712968258
Anti woke is here to stay until the other side is crushed into dust. It will not stop until then. We've dealt with them actually changing games, movies, tv shows, comics, everything in their pursuit of faggotry. And YOU'RE tired of just hearing us yell back? After having to deal with all that? Get outta here if you can't handle it.

I really wish the troon artist waited until after the game released to call Bungie out. That way Sony would've spent all that budget on marketing first before pulling the game out.

>>712968268
Wokies eating each other alive has been a thing since Tumblr era. The fact that the art director is a huge fan of this tranny makes the situation even funnier.

>>712968258
People like you let the door open for this cancer and you're mad when people are trying to clean house.

>>712968258
>There are two sides, there is no third one.
So what do you call the side of the rich trannies that get paid #250,000+ per year to do nothing but steal from twitter trannies that live in poverty. Oh, that's right, you call them your "comrades" because leftists are retarded.

>>712968447
You are no different from them, same subhuman doing the same exact things.
Neither you, nor woke troons belong here, you are a mentally ill, politics obsessed NPC who uses games and other media as a proxy to fling shit at your carbon copy.
It's even worse now, because in the past there were no opposition to the woke, highlighting their insanity. Now we have equally mentally ill trannies on the other side.
Eat shit, you are a subhuman and it's you who should get the fuck out from the internet altogether.

>>712947954
buddy it's the top brass that always have security and get golden parachutes. The devs gets none of that. Even if the devs are turbo libtards that are smug and hate conservatives, never forget they are hired and enabled by the top brass.

>>712968759
you should do your best to bump that 41 up to 42 troon

>>712968741
>$250,000+

>>712968638
All anti-woke is doing is adding more shit to the pile. Now it's x2 bigger and x2 stinkier. Nice!

>>712934380 (OP)
never even heard of this game until like 4 days ago

>just straight up stole entire art direction and assets
Defend this.

>>712968793
What?

>>712968759
Highlighting their insanity did nothing. You're the type of faggot who is like "I'll point out their hypocrisy and that means I win" and sit back and do nothing. If you want people to walk all over you then just shut up and take it and stop telling people who don't want that that they need to keep quiet.

>>712968883
i-it was an homage

>>712968824
No, only a woketard would say that.

>>712968916
So, now you will be the same kind of insufferable, mentally ill tranny, just on supposedly "other" side. This just makes things worse.
Your kind don't even care about games, you don't belong here, same as troons.

>>712969070
Accusing others of a fault, not seeing the same fault in yourself is pretty common for idiots. I am not surprised that you are doing this cliche mistake.

>>712968759
Funny that you only started crying when your side started getting pushback.

>>712969105
NTA, i was relatively ok with woke people existing until they push neo pronouns and " body type " into videogames. You don't just do that and expect me to not become an anti, buddy.

>>712969190
>Your side
>He is not on our side, he must be one of them! The world is "us vs them"
Hello, NPC.

>>712969105
Are the trannies in the room with you right now, anon?

>>712934673
What was this copypasta originally for? I wanna say Concord, but it feels older than that.

Anyway, seriously though, it's shocking how many people, not just execs, but actual PEOPLE think certain products should just sell and go big just because there was effort put into it.
Doesn't matter if it's about handcrafted pottery, or games about LGBT dinosaurs, there's just this, I don't know, "third party entitlement" or something.
Super weird. Bonus points if they're defending a straight-up megacorp like Apple or Disney because they're often Communists or Socialists or something and have been programmed to think [big global corporation with legit slaves in a couple countries] is actually some loving family company with premium products and all the profits go to charity because they do rainbow logos during Pride Month, or something.

>>712969265
They don't have to be in my room. I am replying to one now, for example.

>>712969318
I see that it is a severe case then. All you can think about is trannies. It's trannies on left its trannies on the right its trannies replying to you. What a horror it must be.

>>712967386
>you plagiarised my work!
>red war and curse of osiris

if that was me, id have fucking kept my mouth shut. who the fuck wants to be known as the guy who wrote shit and slopp4qvc

>>712969151
Well you have been doing nothing but add to the shit pile yourself, now it's 3x bigger and stinkier.

The site would be better if all the political morons and you 'acked yourselves.

>>712934380 (OP)
am i the only one who likes that girls character design (trailer, not gameplay). she kinda cute.

>>712969260
If you participate in the politics you've chosen a side.

>>712969273
I like this one, so I put a little more effort in it for you.

>>712934380 (OP)
Any actual gamer who is a fan of classic Bungie could have told you that Bungie is a tainted brand and that it would literally be a better investment to start a studio that makes games that are inspired by Halo.
>They're fans! That makes them biased!
This mindset has been an absolute failure. Being less informed about the studio's history and the mood of the fanbase as its history unfolded doesn't make you more objective. It makes you ignorant.

To put it in terms that these dipshits might understand, how are the New York Mets? I don't know anything about baseball, let's just assume that they're not at their historical peak. Does having no idea how popular the Mets are with current baseball fans (much of which can't be measured in dollar signs but could become dollar signs later, especially if something is being mismanaged) make you more objective? Or does it make you less equipped to figure out whether you're being taken advantage of/passing on an amazing deal, as well what to do with the team to make it more valuable? If any of this sounds stupid, well, case in point.

>we'll say the release date in 3-4 months
>/v/ : this thread

ever realize you're just clinically retarded

>>712969449
Yes, that would have been great.

Japan Sony executives finally realizing they're being scammed by california troons

>>712969380
I did it to highlight that there is no difference between both sides. Do you have a problem with being called a tranny, you tranny?

>>712948664
i like her look. shame the game is just live service slop. no amount of delay is going to make live service into LVDO

>>712934380 (OP)
>>712934673
>>712967872
like Tyrone said:
I dindu nuffin

>>712959164
is called Jew Pork for a good reason

>talk about game
>people cry about you being a political wokechud pajeet
the absolute state of gaming

>>712938894
no wonder why they started to cancel everything
>>712934380 (OP)
I don't think so sony already has burn too much money with this shit and concord, now that they now that DEI mutants and their nepotism so they are probably gonna try to at least rework the gameplay into something that testers can at least enjoy, and maybe change a bit the character design (not likely since they are still incapable of manage anything)

>>712969903
I don't like it, it has nothing to do with marathon, and now they want to shoehorn the marathon universe back into the game after they didn't care about it at all for nearly a decade. It's completely retarded, they should have announced they were changing the name of the game and making a new IP and writing lore for these characters that people like you apparently like. There is no reason to try to make this a marathon game at all.

>>712969736
If this were true, they'd be coming out and repudiating the direction of the western game industry over the past twenty years and especially the past ten. And Hulst + Druckmann would be gone. Especially Hulst. Actual talent that wasn't propped up like Hulst has been booted from the industry for infinitely less than the Concord disaster, which was his baby.

That'd be super popular with the actual audience and would inspire confidence in future titles.

>>712969993
There is no game, it hasn't been released yet

It's okay to cry about woke because these games are shit.

>>712969993
lefties are in general mutants and they get pissed off really easily, the irony is that gaymers like any group of untermensch would gladly suck everything in gaming if the gameplay is good, the woke crap isn't forced into their faces, and overall if lefties weren't as whiny and prone to make lynching mobs

>>712950952
>they had a black guy back then
how?

>>712970954
There have always been women and non-whites/Asians in the game industry.

Just not as many as there are when you have deliberate discrimination going on in the hiring processes. Most talented creatives are white or Asian men (highest IQ + thing-oriented), but not all. If you're hiring on merit, you'll have a few.

>>712970954
They aren't all subhuman, but when you hire only based on race it tends to become that way when you hire the first retard that walks through the door

>>712971786
>paul tassi
I wonder how many abibs here ferember when tassi was relatively well liked on ./v/

>>712971786
>still forcing this
dude you just put in a prompt you didn't do actual work you can stop now

>>712934380 (OP)
woah what the fuck, why did they wait to announce it being dead to finally post THAT bitch in the picture? holy shit, id get my dick and wallet out for that. tell me its a femboy, please

>>712972213
Can't speak to that. He's just been an annoying two-faced cunt though that follows general public opinion and never rock the normalfag boat. I don't even know why Bungie employees like him, he's genuinely just a leech.

>>712936470
it looked like it was made by a team of maybe a dozen people. Simplistic graphics, but the shooting looked solid. Very Destiny like.

>>712973065
If wokeshit was popular with normalfags:

-Star Wars and Marvel would be healthy
-American comics would be dominating manga
-The flood of TV shows like never before would have put us in the most prosperous era of TV ever; executives wouldn't be surprised when people go back to watch shows that are two years old like they do with anime because it would be normal
-The left wouldn't have to cheat in order to win elections
-Reddit wouldn't be censored because the left would always feel confident that they won the debate
-Youtube wouldn't require an extension to see dislikes because the downvoters would always lose
-Companies and officials wouldn't lock comments when supporting woke causes
-People wouldn't be going to media from before the woke times
-People wouldn't be nostalgic for times from before they were even born
-Game journos would be getting at least an ounce of respect and controversies surrounding political bias in their ratings would be muted (because this would be in line with the customers and the complainers would actually be a powerless minority)
-We wouldn't be talking about the collapse of the western game industry right now

>>712952447
Mirror's Edge, Wipeout games, N++.
Marathon's art style is heavily influenced by Vectorheart

>>712973959
I'm not referring to wokeshit in my post. Pretty sure Tassi doesn't even like Marathon, but he did bandwagon and praise Final Shape and a bunch of other bungie shit that wasn't nearly that good, but since that was popular opinion, that's the thing he went with.

>>712947954
the issue with the gaming industry is that the people fired aren't the one responsible for games being so shit.
also the "competency crisis" is a buzzword suits use to cover their asses. what that means is that no one with talent would work for them and those that could develop get laid off so fast there is no chance for them to grow

>>712974123
Our leadership is filled with CEOs who fire "asshole genius" engineers for pointing out that the plane is a hazard, black female heads of the fire department who respond to criticisms that they couldn't pull you out of a fire by saying that it's your fault if you get trapped in a fire, and retarded Indians with fraudulent credentials. Merit-based hiring is being replaced with nepotism-based hiring, propped up by socialist wealth redistribution (government agencies -> NGOs -> hedge funds).

That's the competency crisis. As it relates to gaming, the hedge funds and the consultants both have demonstrably strong ties to western governments. Yes, I also wish that they had something better to do with their time than make sure that gaming isn't oriented towards men.

>>712947154
fairgames? more like fair game stop!

>>712974498
do you honestly think nepo hiring being the main hiring system to be a new practice?

>>712934380 (OP)
G O O D
I T A L L
M U S T
B U R N

>>712934673
This pasta cannot become stale.

>>712952460
western shareholders don't want several small budget games, they want fortnite money. anything that does not promise fortnite money RIGHT FUCKING NOW is not worth investing

>>712968916
>Highlighting their insanity did nothing.
this dude living under a rock

>>712974645
It wasn't as bad, and they weren't bailed out as frequently or as generously.

Proof: Our institutions used to function much better than they do now.

anon posted months ago they'd delay it, interesting

>>712934935
They didn't even buy it, they just bought a promise to start taking some control over it if their next game underdelivered.

>>712975008
someone doesn't remember the shitshow hollywood was in the 60s due to nepotism and overly expensive flops

>Marathon
Darius the Great, thou art avenged

>>712934380 (OP)
I'm sure the article doesn't say that. Paul Tassi was already on board with the whole this game is boring, Bungie have no business making it, it isn't what they existing fans want, it's a niche genre, and then whole stolen art thing too.

The fact is just everything about the project was misguided and mismanaged and they shouldn't have tried it at all. Their options were Destiny 3 or new IP in a different genre and they chose poorly.

>>712975032
It was obvious for anyone even casually keeping an eye on it.

>>712975101
Don't try to gaslight people into believing that things were always this bad.

Were there shitshows in the past? Yes. But proportionality matters. This is society-wide.

>>712937125
Think of the sick ass technological jump we're about to make afterwards though. Just gotta survive the next 10-20 years.

>>712964637
>>712934748
Is the girl with bandage a burn victim?

One massive hit after another for Snoy. I hope they fucking go bankrupt within the next few years, but third worlders and gacha retards will keep them afloat.

>Online Extraction Battle Royale Looter Shooter
Good, hope this whole genre dies all together
These games bring out the worst in people, nobody likes putting in time and effort to unlock the objective just for some asshole who looted all game that has better shit than you since you wasted that time doing puzzles/objectives instead.
Such a terrible concept that rewards players for not going after the objective and just waiting for some sucker to do it instead and then kill them.

>>712934380 (OP)
bruh I've just been sitting here

>>712934673
>I hope you find yourself in the same situation someday
I went through that after the release of my first project. The game was shit, I didn't blame people for not buying it. I still believe it's not worth more than 5usd. I do resent the shareholders for cutting the production time in half tho.
Players don't close down studios. Shareholders do.

>>712975281
>gacha retards
?

Which game?

>>712934380 (OP)
I hope that instead of simply getting binned, it will be reworked into something that doesn't suck ass.

>>712934673
>People with families. People with children
nuh uh, trannies are alone and miserable

>>712936768
>Disastrous August 2024 launch
BULLSHIT THAT WAS A YEAR AGO

>>712964381
they should have just added them casually from S3 onward, the way they did it in the manga commercial worked just fine, everyone who would cry about it not being pure enough to the original probably don't even care Shinbo and Oishi barely touch the series anymore

>>712975170
no? the 80s was a huge renaissance for both games and movies that lasted until 9/11.
it has been a slow decline since then, the pandemic was the last straw and now we are spiraling down like we did in the 20s and 30s.
actually, look up history at the start of the 20th century, it's so eerily similar

>>712955724
>we want more money so let's make a game that is complete ass and no one wants to buy

>>712975386
I'm sure there are others, but FGO and Genshin have both made multiple billions of dollars.

>>712934673
copy pastas are supposed to be funny

play destiny (please)

>>712974808
gimb otuu oasr dltn?
i dont get it

>>712934380 (OP)
>>712934673
How did I cause a multibillion-dollar company to commit art theft at an insane level?

>>712975760
I'd unironically play it if it was on PC. Destiny 2 is a pile of shit but Destiny (1) was great. Sometime between these two Bungie died

>>712954756
Zoomers will only ever play fortnite, they have to appeal to gen alpha if they want their game to sell maybe a skibidi toilet game?

>>712969765
>I did it to highlight that there is no difference between both sides. Do you have a problem with being called a tranny, you tranny?

>art style was the only cool thing about the game
>they entire thing was stolen
Forget about getting sued by the artist, shouldn't they be sued by investors? They put hundreds of millions of dollars into a stolen game

>>712976501
There is nothing unique about both Marathon and the tranny's artstyle, it is typical corpo sludge. Bungie got alot of shit because they stole the tranny's logo designs he made.

>>712934673
>And why? Because these people made a game you did not like. As if that is such a fucking crime. But no, it's not enough that you did not support the game. You had to take it a step further. You had to trash it at every opportunity. You had to discourage others from supporting it.
I know im replying to a copypasta but im sure someone needs to hear this. The backlash against far leftists making AAA games has less to do with the quality of the games themselves and more to do with the fact that they are blatantly using every project they are involved with to spread anti white or tranny propaganda or both. The customer base feels the hatred and evil of the left and have adjusted their purchasing habits accordingly.

>>712934673
Is this pasta from Twitter or Reddit?

>>712955147
Most gamers no, but the whales do. Whale who spend thousands of dollars on skins isn't gonna abandon his collection for another game anytime soon.

>>712976946
No, they stole a shitload of assets actually. Assets that made up their "art direction".
>nothing unique
And yet they couldn't come with their own variant, they stole the exact assets.

>>712934380 (OP)
>>712934673
B-but I did nothing...
The game isn't even out, I couldn't even say
>I shan't be buying it
They didn't even give me the chance to do that!
What did I do???????????????

>>712977429
Many whales are chasing cred
Cred is tied to the number of casual players
If you can get the casuals, you will get the whales
Conversely, if the casuals leave, you will lose the whales

>>712968364
>have bunch of money you know three letter agencies would love to find out more about
>instead keeping it spread it out to bunch of trannies and jews
>now scrap everything and declare a tax writeoff
>bank account in now full of clean money

>>712936768
Man, Hulst just can't catch a break. Good.

>>712977523
No, the tranny doesn't draw characters or making 3D models. He can only draw logo.

>>712958629
https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/649183361/#q649195550

>>712975220
She is cursed by an oddity, because of her lesbianism, giving her a monkey arm endowing her with super monkey strength, speed, and aggression when she's full possessed. She only calmed down after beating the quasi-vampire MC to a bloody pulp and realizing she wanted his cock too or something.

She now wraps her arm in bandage to prevent it from taking over again.

>>712977892
Samefag here. Maybe "casual" isn't the right word. That has the intonation of someone who's kinda dumb and not really invested. The vast majority of players will be into the game and will be reasonably competent but won't be spending thousands. Unless you're making a casual mobile game meant to be played on break or something, you should never build your game around people who will barely be invested.

We'll say "normal players" instead. F2Ps and light-to-moderate spenders who buy a battlepass here and a costume there.

>>712948664
This looks fucking retarded. Every fucking game these days has these same boring cyberpunk hacker slut characters in them.
Wipeout is the only game IP to pull this style off well.

>>712969105
Calling out lefties for infesting games with their politics does not mean you are batting for the other side. You will never understand this, that’s why leftism is being cast out of every modern country

>>712955447
this
Its the equivalent of those AI images that vaguely look like a messy room or whatever but there are no actual objects in the image

I guess they are stuck redoing every fucking jpeg in the game because its not humanely possible to check the legality of each file

>>712978631
You might have a literal severe brain condition then.

>>712978049
>characters or making 3D models
Those are all generic in Marathon. The UI and the color palette are the only unique parts of the art direction and that's what's stolen, dumbass

>>712978727
No its just shit design

>>712934748
wtf happened to the animation budget?

>>712979001
Lol you changed your whole opinion immedialty. Looks like you are just there to make noise in the end.

>>712958629
>>649113303

seems to be it

>>712934380 (OP)
Noooo I was looking forward to watching this crash and burn on launch

>>712978542
Everything that's been politicized is political.
If you're battling against people who've made it their stance that games will no longer be made for normal men who just want to have a good time because they belong to an anti-male hate movement, you're battling on the other side of that issue. Yes, men should be an acceptable target demographic, and they shouldn't have to go through Karen to make sure that she feels sufficiently validated by how they're enjoying their time off.

People need to acknowledge that the left is correct when they say that art has always been political. The problems are:
1. Inherently divisive Marxist politics that break the entire world up into classes of oppressor and oppressed and describe every single problem in those terms
2. Communist frauds who believe that their job is to express themselves and your job is to applaud (a real artist seeks to resonate with the audience)
3. Art serving politics rather than politics serving art

>>712948664
The characters looks trashy as fuck by default but the tech stuff makes it worse, because now they're pretentiously trashy

>>712934380 (OP)
we win again!

>>712979181
>Lol you changed your whole opinion immedialty
I didn't. But thats obvious to anyone remotely literate, so I gotta assume you just want to keep the thread alive and I can respect that. Have some boobs for your troubles

So the Furry fps wild assault ironically had more sucess than this trannie slop bungie tried to shove up our throats ?

im not a furry but I would pic related anytime over that trannie shit.

>>712980006
looks like shit, uncanny valley

>>712980039
kys trannie

did it have a beta test? How did people play it already

>>712980057
suck my troon cock

>>712948664
The characters have nice face and body shapes, but they're ruined by everything else.

Enough of the modern art show shit. That's what people are really tired of. It's the realm of nepo babies who think that they have 20 IQ points more than they do and are currently running several companies into the ground. And feminists who are trying to reduce intra-sex competition under the guise of "fighting harmful stereotypes". And every other group of pseudo-intellectuals who feel a deep-seated resentment towards actual accomplishment. Fuck off with your resentment. Give us classic beauty.

>>712980094
I guess bot posts really do exist.

>>712934673
>waah people are entitled to my money

commies get the rope

>>712934380 (OP)
This game looks like dog shit, but I still would absolutely nut inside that alt post-human semen demon

Such a cool fucking art style, reminds me of Mirror's Edge. It's a shame they decided to make it a live service extraction shit...

>>712980465
>The characters have nice face and body shapes, but they're ruined by everything else.
negro have you seen >>712954613
the clowngirl is a safehorny bait for losers who are afraid to admit that they like looking at tits, the ingame models look even worse than this trailer shit

>>712980885
Yeah, she's disgusting.

>>712980838
It's not like mirrors edge in the most important aspect, which is that Mirror's Edge's aesthetic is directly designed to benefit the gameplay mechanics. Bright colors are almost exclusively used for map objects which need extra attention.

By contrast, Marathon just put random, arbitrary colors on random, arbitrary parts of arbitrary objects. It's like a chimpanzee trying to copy a master painter. The only similarity is that the chimps smearded paint shit will have some similar colors inside it

>>712934673
u mad bro?

>>712946664
you can spoof running games. my memelord friend does it with awful games as a joke, over 10 games at a time so i guarantee there is some centralized server farm with thousands of virtual machines botting playercount, that a bunch of companies use. i guarantee in cases like this, companies do exactly that to fomo fence sitters. because there is no fucking way anyone cared for infinite. ive never heard anyone talk about it, here or otherwise. i sincerely doubt that game broke any player numbers.

>>712981096
>which is that Mirror's Edge's aesthetic is directly designed to benefit the gameplay mechanics
There's an aspect of it, but Mirror's Edge genuinely does have some kind of artist direction away from gameplay, its the entire city of glass that's the other bulk of it.

>>712980838
I don't know how people can compare this shit to mirrors edge, the only thing similar is simple colour palette. mirror's edge is all about simple and redable visuals, this marathon shit looks so busy and random, it's nothing like me

>>712934380 (OP)
More like MaraDONE LMAOOOOOOOOO

>>712934380 (OP)
Imagine being called Marathon and not even managing to get to the starting line

>>712980512
wdym, where are people playing it?

>>712983538
They had either a public playtest or one of those modern alphas where it's not an alpha, just marketing. Everyone hated it.

I didn't do anything.

>>712937345
The mentality just isn't the same. One of the main appeals of gachaslop is hot, scantily-clad girls and hot heterosexual boys the lonely fujoshi can thirst over, all drawn in a colorful, exaggerated anime style with various real cultures mixed and mashed together. Western companies would be eaten alive if they tried producing something like that.

>>712934673
I will likely never have a family or even own a home so not my problem, just stop making bad game dev wagies

>>712934380 (OP)
Good, pvp trash deserves to die, we need more darktides, helldivers and nightreigns.

>>712934673
I will likely never have a family or even own a home so not my problem, just stop making bad games dev wagies

>>712950293
yeah I'm thinking based, take me stright back

>>712940842
Technically it's all shooters.
I don't mind hero shooters. But for example, I have about 2k hours in Counter Strike, time in which I've learned a bunch of gimmicks and stuff to make me a better player.
Marathon or another shooter would have to have something very interesting to make me play it and relearn sweat tactics instead of just doing what i usually do

>>712937125
Can't wait for post-WW3 vidya being LITERALLY nothing but about WW3 and how the (defeated) enemy was evil.

>>712934380 (OP)
>And it's your fault
Good.

>>712942824
>How can they copy the gacha shit?
Dude, nearly every fucking game that comes is a gacha game but you have to pay 70$ before even starting to play it (plus ugly characters)

>>712948664
Arstyle aside, whats the deal with their faces and random parts of the models looking blurred?
>>712948824
It not being anything like previous Marathon games aside, I think the problem is that it is not alien enough. If you removed a single attribute from each of their appearances, they would just look like someone you would meet in a rock concert.
Are these really all the characters?

>>712979430
> Yes, men should be an acceptable target demographic, and they shouldn't have to go through Karen to make sure that she feels sufficiently validated by how they're enjoying their time off.

Glad you agree. And as long as pozzed faggots continue to infest genres and communities they never liked to begin with - with the transparent intention to ruin it and change it into something straight men no longer like - they will always get backslash from the audience that can now sniff this shit out seconds into an announcement trailer

But I didn't do anything

>>712987857
Where were you in the night of January 25th, 2021?

>>712988007
At home

>>712934380 (OP)
>>712934673
You're laughing. People's jobs are at steak and you're laughing.

>>712947154
that inspired me to make something stupid, looking forward to see it happen.

Is not that I want developers to fail, I just want companies to understand that trend chasing isn't a good business decision.

>>712989596
The industry is hostile towards the average gamer and deliberately hires people who will make the product worse for them. I want them to fail until these people stop being hired.

>>712989596
Fit battleborn in there somehow and we are golden