Thread 712948936

Has any multiplayer game ever speedran a fall from grace this quickly? They went from the successor to OG overwatch to spamming out shitty gen alpha tiktok memes desperately trying to stop their bleeding playercounts in the span of months

>>712948936 (OP)
Goonbait isn't novel anymore. The pendulum already swung back.

*blocks your path*

Shitty MOBA/Overwatch shit will always bleed players when the average normalfag gets bored of it

>>712948936 (OP)
>>712949068
Everybody wants to be Fortnite but without any of the effort

>>712948936 (OP)
League of legends

>>712949068
like 10 people liked multiverusus

>>712949223
In 6 months Marvel Rivals went from 642k peak to 107k peak.
In 3 months MVS went from 153k peak to 3k peak.

There will never be a bag fumble as huge as MVS in our lifetimes.

>>712949223
In 6 months Marvel Rivals went from 642k peak to 107k peak. (1/6th)
In 3 months MVS went from 153k peak to 8k peak. (1/19th)

There will never be a bag fumble as huge as MVS in our lifetimes.

>>712949159
>epic puts effort into fortnite
It keeps its playerbase from the fomo sunk cost effect and streamer culture keeping it topical.

It’s just that XvX hero shooters has worn itself out. People flocked to marvel rivals when it came out because it was a free game with great timing and managed to be a better version of what overwatch became. What everyone forgot is at the same time they also got burnt out on the format over the years.

>>712949159
Fortnite is sinking pretty bad lately too. The only thing keeping it relevant are collabs.

>>712949959
Yeah, the game's basically turned into a digital billboard at this point. Every other week it's some $500 anime collab skin pack and a new Eminem emote. The core gameplay hasn't evolved in years, and the build/no-build gimmick can only carry you so far when all your new content is fashion shows and brand synergy. It's not a game anymore, it's a franchise mascot wearing different hats.

>>712949570
yeah but marvel had decent gameplay to begin with

marvel rivals is dying faster than ever
as said by increasingly nervous overwatch player for the 28503rd day in a row

>>712948936 (OP)
>Has any multiplayer game ever speedran a fall from grace this quickly?
Overwatch added competitive mode just over a month later, which killed it due to esports. Rivals lasted a whole season at least.

Who plays free2play slop.

>>712948936 (OP)
They need to just fucking change Thor back

>>712954173
You posted them.

what's so bad about this? you get the Jeff in sneakers emote as part of the free version of the new pass

>>712948936 (OP)
TRALALERO TRALALA

EOMM killed it and the irony is devs are so fucking retarded they think it retains players

Always report jeffs and ultron for throwing

Tankbros...
Surely they'll fix the flyer meta, right?
>>712954227
Please, God.

>>712948936 (OP)
>Still averages over 100k+ players
>DEAD DEAD DEAD WE SAID DEAD DAMNIT!

/v/ still trying to shout the titanic down.
I'm sure if you keep saying this and league of legends is dead one day it just will happen.

>>712948936 (OP)
Palworld and Helldivers 2 had huge dropoffs.

>>712955980
Flyer meta is better than dive was.
Flyer meta is 100% a DPS fault. They buffed multiple characters in response, DPS just doesn't like having a job in the game.
I've had at least seven games where flyers weren't being dealt with, so I swap to Punisher and problem solved.
End of the day though, they need to get better at balance so there isn't "X meta"

>>712955980
If they want to pretend making awakening cancelable fixes anything they’re in for a rude awakening.

Dive + Flyers killed it

>>712949018
Stellar Blade is the highest selling Playstation game on PC. Your gaslighting doesn't work, tranny.

>>712957509
The flyer meta is garbage because it heavily restricts what actual DPSes can even be played. The other metas allowed many more of them to realistically be used whereas this meta is basically IM, Storm, Punisher, Hela, Hawkeye, and Spidey with BP, Namor, and Magik being a rarity. You want to play anyone else you're likely going to be causing issues for your team.

>>712958183
Fair enough. I meant more that the solution is easier than dive was, but you are correct.
Like I said, they need to balance better.

I kind of like how we are getting micro battlepasses that run on exp since outside of the rank grind there isn't really a "reason" out side of just fun to grind the game.

To me Magneto is fun, I really enjoy bullying healers

>>712958375
Same. I like how they are also starting to give out Costume Coins now so you can get the extra store skins for like $5 on top of a bunch of other stuff. Then if you want to actually buy the add-on MVPs or emotes it's only 560 skin currency instead of the full 1600/2200.

Mantua is unplayable

Sex with Peni

>>712959851
*Anal

>>712948936 (OP)
Too much restricting of the balancing. Removing teamup abilities was especially retarded. No real reason to do it. Just add the other ones and keep the old ones too. Idk why modern devs are obsessed with removing stuff.

>>712948936 (OP)
What caused the massive decline?
I stopped playing mid season 1 but I doubt many other people had my issues with the game

>>712960078
after mating press nakadashi*

>>712960205
It's still among the most played games on steam and has held that place consistently. It hasn't left the top 10 since it launched.
This wont stop doomposting and mongoloids insisting it's not being played however. Attitude about balance changes is one thing. But that's not what gets said around here.

>>712948936 (OP)
The issue is too many other titles have come out that have taken players,AND their bafflingly retarded decisions that made a fun alternative into a cluster fuck of retardation. Not to mention them getting INCREDIBLY (and unsurprisingly)Jewy as fuck with skin prices and other cosmetics.

>>712948936 (OP)
>Try to make a game as close to Overwatch as possible
>Keep all the things that made Overwatch shit
>Add things to make it even worse
>But it's extremely polished and uses a popular IP so people play it anyway
As expected from chinx

All they need to do to get another surge of players is add a PVE mode. Another chance to shit on OW too.

Then even babby normies will have a mode they can go play and generally not have to worry about sweating in.

>>712961014
>Keep all the things that made Overwatch shit
They don't have role queue though.

>>712960205
People hate losing and blame the game for their losses even though it's literally impossible for anyone to win every single game

>>712960205
I stopped playing because the matchmaking was actually utterly horrendous
I'm not talking in that "I lost so it is le bad!" or "ohmegawd there's someone who isn't good at the video game on my team, wtf gg matchmaking" or low iq shit like that, I'm talking about how the system seems designed to do whatever it takes to achieve a 50% win rate instead of making a match with teams who each has a roughly 50% chance of winning the match

That sounds like the same thing, but it's not
>Scenario 1: Each team has players of somewhat close skill level on the team, nobody plays perfectly but there's back and forth and at the end you feel like it was a close game that could have gone either way
>Scenario 2: One team is loaded up with retards and the other team is loaded up with actual gods, play 10 times while just mixing up who gets the retards, at no point did you have the ability to meaningfully influence the game towards a victory because of the sheer staggering weight of stupidity you are forced to contend with

Also FUCK bot games, who the fuck ever came up with that pointless time wasting garbage

>>712958496
realistically, who can stop rabigneto?

>>712958183
Why would the guy with the perfect accuracy turrets and decent chunking spears be shit in a flyer meta.

>>712966220
I've barely seen any Namors even on comp during this entire meta so far and that's with Hulks on my team. The ones that do get used typically have their stuff melted to prevent them from being countered.

>>712960205
Casual matches get filled with bots if you lose enough, once people become aware of this their enjoyment goes way down
Ranked play is quite stressful for a lot of people, which can cause fatigue. Also compared to the past there's a trillion ranked seasonal comp games, so people have more choices if they get too tilted
Many people abhorrently hate the way how healer ults work, many people hate fliers, many people hate dive etc. tons of negative feedback loops

Look at how they were advertising their game

>>712966220
I imagine because most Namor players are actual fucking retards who don't know they can throw their squids ahead of themselves instead of plopping them at their feet to try to harvest free kills off of divers trying to actually play the game.

>>712966676
What am I looking at.

>>712948936 (OP)
anyone who is familiar with Chinese developers saw this coming from the start

>>712949068
The hype died for Multiversus when they realised it was a F2P multiplayer only 2v2 game designed by sweaty Meleefags where characters "specialise" in things so tough shit if your favourite character is a support. It's one of the most visually cluttered games I've ever seen as well. Smash clones ALWAYS fuck something up because they're not designed to be fun, they're designed to cater to compfags.

>>712951641
Yeah they even took Harmonix and Psyonix off their games to add more gameplay modes in. They're clutching at straws trying to maintain relevance.

>>712967375
>What am I looking at
dude

>>712967375
a CoD tik tok tranny that has spent years being a company clout demon shilling anything it can to get money and relevance.

>>712958496
Why do you keep posting a red magneto? He’s grey in this game. Grey, bland, and colourless like his gameplay.

>>712960205
EOMM

>>712960205
Engagement enhanced matchmaking

>>712960205
People weren’t engaged. Makes you think.

>>712948936 (OP)
Why is that little shark thing spewing pink diarrhea?

>>712954173
Can zoomers even be considered human beings at this point?

>>712960205
It’s the matchmaking

>>712960205
The honeymoon phase ended, so the flaws started to become more apparent.

>>712960205
It’s EOMM’s fault

>>712949570
You can't fumble what was never there to begin with. Multiverse was only barely above dead on arrival and what you posted only supports that. It got attention for being WB and died immediately after people played the game.

>>712960205
Match making.

Turns out Engagement Optimized Matchmaking doesn't work. No matter how much they want to psyop people into playing the game needs to be actually good or else people just quit

overwatch wins again. how do we keep doing it?

>>712967592
It felt off to play.
Like many Smash clones, movements and hits don't have any weight to them, characters just glide across the screen with no meaningful sound to indicate you've connected or been hit.

>>712957901
>tranny
You expect me to believe trannies, the biggest coomers of all time - a demographic absolutely obsessed with anime, video games with girls etc. are the ones posting anti-gooner rhetoric?

You're fucking delusional

>>712948936 (OP)
>game is an unbalanced mess each season
>competitive is filled to the gills with smurf accounts

yeah no wonder the game is dying

>>712960205
Turns out people want fair matches not free wins

>>712968643
game should have placement matches and not reseting your rank every 3 months

>>712962089
They do have one already, it just doesn't progress you in anything but challenges and level.
They need another mode though. Ranked can be alot, but QP is full of retards, but it still impacts your win rate. So there isn't a real relaxed mode.

Chinese devs have no qualms about using sex to sell which is cool, but they are grossly imcompentent, the game had amateur shit like spells tied to framerate and wrong crosshair placement, chinks also have no sould so they can't make fun gameplay since they don't know what fun is.

>>712967592
>designed by sweaty Meleefags
>has no shields, grabs, friendly fire, or even proper hurtboxes
I sweat to God /v/ is the most casual board in existence. "Compfag" is the eternal boogiemen for you idiots.

Netease have a history of blundering their games postlaunch.
Naraka bladepoint was an alright game and eventually they ruined it with constant ass balancing.

The same exact thing is happening to Marvel Rivals, I guess chinks are super incompetent when it comes to balancing and it doesn't help that they look at winrates for characters which is extremely retarded.
Take Winter Soldier for example
He's arguably the best duelist in the game, he's a jack of all trades, gets health/armor on ability proc, automatic reload on ability proc, an ultimate that resets on assists, extremely high damage, and on top of that explosive rounds. If you play the game at high SR every single tryhard has him lord and or they'll swap to him if they get filtered on whatever hero they're playing and do you think he's ever getting nerfed? Nope, because his winrate is statistically low enough to deem him not a problem and if you ask anyone they'll tell you he's overpowered and that's just one character of like 4-5 that desperately need a nerf and Netease aren't going to do squat. Eventually people get tired of dealing with this shit so they quick in bulk when the gameplay doesn't change and the same characters are meta.

>>712948936 (OP)
Complete inability to balance and provide unique content for their game that wasn't copied from elsewhere

>>712961014
>extremely polished
what? if anything it lacks polish compared to OW

>>712970287
How do you explain his dogwater stats from their Top 500 players then.

>>712956494
>>Still averages over 100k+ players
this won't be the case next week given the trend. so yes it is concerning how fast it's bleeding players

>>712960246
*naizuri

>>712970523
why did they nerf/rework jeff when he had the lowest winrate in the game then

>>712960205
EOMM - Engagement Optimized Match Making

It's like when chinks killing the sparrows had the opposite effect and caused a famine. eomm actually led to players quitting

>>712948936 (OP)
The game is doing fine.
>b-but it's not peaking anymore!
No game ever does. 100k+ players daily peak is entirely fine.

>>712970746
see >>712970526

>>712948936 (OP)
>game comes out me and friend go hero shopping
>he lands on cap while im still undecided
>gets me to try thor because teammup
>start climbing ranks
>realize our characters are dogshit together
>start playing other heroes
>lose interest

>>712968217
Because they do dumb shit like all boys through the ages have?

>>712970620
because he was unkillable as flanker/dps and annoying to deal with, and useless as a healer compared to others

>>712970637
>EOMM - Engagement Optimized Match Making
keeps on blaming on things that don't exist in the game

>>712971037
But he had the lowest winrate in the game? even at top 500.

>>712970987
>realize our characters are dogshit together
wut? no they're not

>>712971179
uhh bro?

>>712971092
keep coping and lying while player counts bleed to 4 digits

>>712971145
one of the dev got pissed off by an annoying dive jeff.

It's kinda sad how /v/ would rather doom post about a game instead of play it. Social media drama addicts. All that matters is if you have fun.

>>712971037
Wait what
No. Jeff was fine as a healer before.

You're just a dishonest piece of shit and got checkmated by your own argument.
I'm not saying Bucky was as broken as backlining Jeff but he's VERY overtuned compared to the other Duelists and I'm not going into specific rankings for every character in the game because that's not important, I want to focus on this particular character since he's obviously the best example for why this game sucks right now.

They cant balance and when they do balance they're using fucked up winrates to do it. Certain outliers like Bucky, Hela, Hawkguy (Only because of his oneshot capabilities), Groot and hell I'd even throw wolverine in there because he buckbreaks every single tank aside from like 2 of them. And these are characters I flat out think are blatantly overpowered right now.

>>712971423
I never subscribed to the whole EOMM arguement and I think some Marvel Rival players are starting to realize those who complain about EOMM might be the problem. They will ask about your replay codes and look at stats. The problem with players who argue that EOMM is a problem should first look at themselves, it's an ego problem.

>>712960205
Social media (4chan included) spread broad generalizations about everything from hero balancing to character interactions and even design issues. Since the crowd is dumb as shit, they just bought it all at face value and went back to Fortnite/CoD.

>>712971734
>Marvel Rival players are starting to realize those who complain about EOMM might be the problem.
the people that left don't even know about eomm. they just know they get fucked in matchmaking

>>712948936 (OP)
Jeff's a land shark that can only make weird noises, what did you want them to do with him?

It looks like if some asked ChatGPT to make a live service game. Then went to Dall-3 to get the artstyle.

>>712949223
and i was one of them

>>712970287
This is the shit I'm talking about. People take their anecdotal evidence from a few rounds they played in their bracket and applied it like a blanket to the entire experience. Winter Soldier is good but hard checked by half the roster when played optimally.

>>712971663
nta but Jeff was utter dogshit as a healer

>>712971861
>what did you want them to do with him?
at least give more shark-themed skins? not this memes bs

>>712960205
EOMM

>>712960205
dive being overtuned for an entire season killed it for me. i'll reinstall in a couple months when i finish some stuff on my backlog.

>>712971734
Retard

>>712971981
im in the top 1%?

>>712960205
EOMM killed the game. It’s funny seeing jeets desperately trying to convince others it isn’t real while game bleeds players. This is one of their arguments btw. That because people are leaving EOMM mustn’t be real because it’s supposed to retain players, not drive them away. Lol. Lmao even.

>>712969601
how many chuds are gonna have to go trans to avoid WWIII?

>>712960205
It’s EOMM dude

>>712968213
She's trans now

>>712972216
Post replays, then. Let us see this totally real EOMM that is keeping you from winning.

>>712960205
I’m prettty sure it’s because of EOMM

I don't know that what people say is happening, is exactly eomm but they do definitely feed you losses and wins. Why is it that in ranked I have many games in a row where our team destroys the other team and the other way around. That tells me there's something wrong with the matchmaking

>>712972317
>r-replays!
Lol. Lmfao. Yeah bro I’m sure my replays will convince you to stop being a bootlicking faggot. Enjoy your dying game while you can. Make sure to give ether chunks as much of your money as possible.

>>712972393
That is EOMM. So is giving you secret bot matches. That alone is proof the game uses EOMM and the chinks have no qualms about feeding you wins.

>>712960205
EOMM killed the game for me. In fact it killed multiplayer games in general for me.

>>712972493
yeah...keep moving the goalpost. You're claiming that there's EOMM so why won't you show us this EOMM from your game perspective?

>>712972393
Fun fact - Since 2003 The world record for consecutive coin tosses to one side is eight times in a row. That means that even if the game was perfectly balanced each game you still could go on a several game losing or winning streak. And that's if the game is perfectly balanced. Here you can have 10 people that have a perfect 50% win rate, but because there is no role queue, your team may have been composed from 6 brilliant DPSes that would carry the game, but know not hot to tank or heal and all of a sudden, the team is unbalanced, and it gets steamrolled. You don't need to throw one player with five bad players to achieve a steam roll situation. And that's just one example. Your team picks get countered, the opposite team is premade, they get lucky, someone in your team is distracted, dozens of reasons for why a team loses. So it happened 5-6 games in a row? If a coin can fall 8 times in a row on the same side, it's not that impossible to happen. And lastly people will ignore if they had a six win streak, one loss, 5 win streak 2 loses, But the moment they lose 3+ games in a row? Yeah, something is wrong with the matchmaking.

>>712972727
Morom

It's not matchmaking "forcing" you to lose a match you fucking retards
Bot matches are causing people to leave because they waste your fucking time

>>712960205
EOMM matchmaking is why i dropped it like i gave it a couple of seasons but they did nothing and banned even mentioning it in the pisscord along with the bots too
I dont mind losing in general, most people dont but when you get put into games you are supposed to lose is when people start having problems on top of it being in a pattern no less

Thou Ive never seen a community more unified in hating something, even the no life streaming fags agree its bad, they are usually the first to bootlick

>>712972079
Dive didn't really kill the game for me much, its easily countered but the real issue are teammates who get filtered because most players are used to standing around nonhesitently, positioning like shit, and tunnel visioning what's infront of them instead of checking around for BP or spiderman when they're coming.
Its actually frustrating to be the only one on a team knowingly trying to work around a dive while 5 other people just die to it.

What's killing the game for me this season now is that you walk out, get headshot by hawkguy and die in an instant. Even though his character beyond the headshotting is okay if not alright I just cannot fucking stand watching my 5 teammates get raped by this dude. Its broken but you cant say that because there's always without a fail some random fag ready to explain to you why he's not actually broken meanwhile I consider myself a pretty good player especially for solo queueing all the time.

>>712972779
OK and why is it my coin is landing on one side 8 times in a row all the time? Take your shit argument back to/mrg/ where you rightfully got beat the fuck out

>>712972779
This might just be the best analogy I've seen on this debate.

>>712960205
EOMM

>>712972883
Are you one of the many EOMM schizos from /mrg/?
You've been slamdunked several times

>>712972883
This. Death to all EOMM apologists.

>>712972779
Okay. I'll bite.
What you are forgetting is that this isn't like a coin flip happening on the same side 6 times in a row once, it is like the coin flip happening 6 times in a row on the same side over and over again for tens of thousands of people. And on top of that, because these games are stomps nearly every time, it's like a coin flipping the same amount of times before landing on the same side 6 times in a row. Win-streaks and loss streaks aren't just happening, they are stomps every time and they happen on repeat. You're right that there are a lot of variables that can make someone win or lose but you are completely forgoing the law of large numbers smoothing the variability to make a truly fair system result in most games being close and win/loss streaks rare. Stomps aren't rare and neither are streaks so whether or not a streak or stomp can statistically happen, it is the occurrence rate that's the problem. If you flipped a coin 10000 times, you might come up with a few 6+ streaks but if 30-40% of the times that you flipped it, you had a 6+ streak, something is wrong with your coin. We are in the age of AI and algorithms dictating most online interactions, it is naive to think that a game company wouldn't implement these tools to take the work out of doing the math to figure out what groupings would be more likely to end in a win or loss and the developers of the game LITERALLY WROTE A PAPER ON THE ALGORITHMS. It was never a matter of if but when. I wouldn't be shocked if many game devs start doing this.

>>712972984
You’re not slamdunking anyone by being a moron incapable of pattern recognition and reasoning

>>712968329
>150k players
>Dead on arrival
you guys really have absolutely no frame of reference when it comes to player numbers huh? just staring at steamcharts and drooling all day, not even a single spark in that noggin

>>712960205
110%, hands down, above all else, it’s because of the rigged matchmaking

>>712973032
Well, stomps are different from snowballs. I feel players confuse the two.

>Stomps: your team is outclassed
>Snowballs: your team keeps making mistakes that lead to a loss

Most of the time, players are rarely experiencing true "stomps", they are just snowballs due to players not playing well or finding their footing to stop the snowball.(Just wanted to add my two cents to that comment)

If you feel you're experiencing stomps all the time, I'd love to see your account and watch some of the matches.

Everyone bitching about being intentionally sabotaged is a retard. You just suck at the game and working with your team. Your probably the same retards screeching about how shitty the support players are when your retarded ass gets yourself killed by being a retard.

quickmatch also has EOMM and if you pay attention to when you get forced losses you usually have console players on your team and the other team are full PC players.

So its obvious the crossplay betrays the rigged matchmaking at times. How the fuck can you roll a team that's not even capable of leaving the point, stomps are way too prevalent in the game for that to happen. There aren't really any true direct counters outside of characters like Namor, The Thing against wolverine, Wolverine-Groot

>>712973163
We need to bring back "get gud" as a response. I truly believe this could make the change the communities mindset

>>712973202
>leaving the spawn room*

>>712969076
Oh man, a relaxed version of QP where you could leave at anytime without penalties would be a godsend. Doom match practice unfortunately is more like a 1v1 game not a team game

>>712973148
Also, some people just have weak mentals and will tilt at the slightest lost fight. It's a literal coinflip on their skip levels (and their WRs reflect that) and sometimes you just get one or more of those on your team screwing up the match making.

>>712973163
Cope. I’m eternity peak. EOMM is real.

>>712972779
>>712972926
>t. midwits
netease has put millions of dollars in patents and research. you think they aren't adding it to their biggest release till date? fucking kek

>>712972850
>Bot matches
that's a part of eomm to keep people engaged with a free win.

>>712972875
>this season now is that you walk out, get headshot by hawkguy and die in an instant.
hawkeye has one of the lowest winrates in all ranks

>>712960205
I don’t play rigged games

>>712973202
another one example of EOMM is making you play defense. it's much harder to coordinate def with random players than it is to just rush in offense. same thing as the console players in QP esp when you get more than one

>>712971019
Genuinely nothing wrong with that picture, it looks like they're having some fun. Leave the screen for a few hours.

>>712973540
>you think they aren't adding it to their biggest release till date?
Post replays. I want to see it.

>>712973202
>counters outside of characters like Namor
namor is not a counter to anything like wolverine is. his teamup is what counters things. ban his anchor and namor becomes a B-tier hero

>>712949018
Swung back to what? Ugly ass "women" characters that look like men? Lol, no. We're done with that bullshit. Back to the shadows with you, tranny faggot.

>>712948936 (OP)
they need to start balancing for casuals not tryhard sweat streamers

>>712954173
Lol, the broccoli hair cracks me up every time

>>712955980
flyers should be stunned by melee damage

>>712948936 (OP)
Get rid of the flier meta and I'll play this garbage again. I cannot stand devs that just simply allow certain characters such as Storm to stay overpowered as fuck because of favoritism or whatever reason they have to not do anything about the glaring problems in the game.

>>712949068
sometimes i think these are those temp custom tattoos you can make at home

>>712972779
>And lastly people will ignore if they had a six win streak, one loss, 5 win streak 2 loses, But the moment they lose 3+ games in a row? Yeah, something is wrong with the matchmaking.
I get what you're saying, but the trend I noticed and part of why I stopped playing is because the stomp was going both ways. I don't actually enjoy it when I play games that my team brainlessly stomps in 5 minutes, and I do take note of them, and do bring them up as an example of poor matchmaking, which the game absolutely does have.
>you're not most people
Sure whatever, but my assessment remains true.

>>712948936 (OP)
>Has any multiplayer game ever speedran a fall from grace this quickly?
> successor to OG overwatch
Id say it succeeded in being its successor then

>Load into ranked match
>Ban phase
>Both teams vote to ban Iron Man
Finally a fair match, this will be legendary!

>Tank is borderline unplayable in flying meta unless you really like Mag and Emma, we went back to double barrier along with nobody wanting to play tank again
>all the boring poke DPS get buffed because supportfags find getting one or two tapped across the map fun however dive DPS they complained about like Panther, Spider-man, Magik etc remained untouched because they are actually shit so if they are ass at dealing with them, they still are now
>3 support meta is back because Ultron is a support and not a dps for whatever reason. Luna, Loki, Invis, Coal and Burner now Ultron just cycling thru sustain ults
This might be the worst season, its like a combo of every bad thing people didnt like from previous seasons

I'm not waiting a year for heroes I want to play. This slow ass drip feed shit might be for some people, but not me.

>Healers keep getting targeted
>Team complains about heals
?

>>712967592
>they're not designed to be fun, they're designed to cater to compfags.
it's pretty easy to see, considering how mad those fags get when a game doesn't have a specific collision glitch in it

>>712974915
>one hero a month is not enough
unreal

>>712975127
His dopamine receptors are burnt out from a lifetime of pornography addiction and tiktok videos, just pity him and look away, as you would any other addict begging in the streets.

>>712960205
I don't like being told to kms because I wasn't good enough

>>712974915
there are so little Tanks and Support and you just see the same 2 or 3 fucks every game, they might have to drop 3 heroes with 1 for each role a season to balance out the hundreds of DPS they have queued up or something

>>712975127
Correct, one hero every 2 months is not enough, for a game floundering and datamining shows they have 42 different heroes in various stages.
>Oh boy, I can't wait to play as Don of the Dead in August! Gambit/Deadpool/Blade/Cyke release date: 2027
And it's the opposite. I'm a 37 year old with a wife and 2 kids so I have to be selective with what I play. I'm not wasting it on FOTM slop filled with literal whos. But if you're excited to play as The Wall, go for it.

>>712973321
wtf is that picture trying to convey

>>712960205
It was EOMM for me as well

>>712975550
When overwatch launched they had 3 healers, 5 tanks, and 13 dps

>>712975582
Some spiderman trying to throw with 1/3rd of the deaths of a rolling team.

>>712975315
I wouldn’t told you to kys if you were good as well

>>712972768
If you think Mad Maddie won't just be a skin for Jean you're mad too

>>712967968
I just like to dictate the pace of the match also dunking on healer ults and Iron Man

>>712975695
He dealt way too much damage for someone who's supposedly trying to throw. He was just a diver facing a 3 supports who most likely couldn't get a pick most of the time because of the heals and got punished right after. Probably by the mantis, hela and namor's turrets. I mean he probably could have played better, I really can't tell without seeing the game but it doesn't look like throwing to me. Just a bad pick and probably not the best plays he could have made.
Divers are a kind of a "win more" role. If the enemy isn't doing really well, they seal the deal but if you get three healers who are always on top of things and ranged dps who are also on point then divers really can't do much.

>>712975649
went to look that up since it didn't sound right.
I forgot that symmetra used to be a support.

>>712976123
He's dealt barely more damage than the healers and he's on the winning team. It's probably isn't delibrate throwing but definitely being stubbon about not playing with the team which you get in any matches, not just due to EOMM.

No more balance just make everyone broken.

>>712975574
>one hero every 2 months is not enough
It appears that you didn't read the post that you replied to.

>>712949018
The lesson is you can get people to try your game by flaunting tits and ass on your ads, but you can't get them to stay.
It must either be singleplayer or you constantly need to pump out more hypersexualized women consistently like a gacha game. Just look at how the game tanked when Ultron released, who's supposedly a very important Marvel character, because the ricecels left.

>>712948936 (OP)
>on of the most played games on Steam
>"dead"
are you saying Steam is totally dead?

>>712960205
The shitty matchmaking giving everyone forced wins and losses

>>712949159
>effort
they cribbed battle royale right as it was getting big (remember that people were seeing PUBG getting huge so in true industry fashion everyone started playing follow the leader) and made it free and on consoles for children to latch on to, it's literally just that they happened to get a perfect storm of having the right product at the right time over any particular level of effort from Epic

>>712976937
git gud.

>>712976978
I can tell it’s you pajeet. Do something useful with your life.

>>712976123
no he was throwing because against a comp like that which reams spider-man's ass he was stubborn and chose to keep playing spider-man instead of swapping, in another game this guy would be the main reason for a loss but the difference is his team was good enough here that he got rewarded for being shit anyway, trying to tell how good someone was through stats like damage or healing doesn't really mean anything because that damage could've been getting instantly healed and feeding healer/tank ults

>>712960205
EOMM for me. I refuse to do QP because of this.

EOMMtards really love to make up all sorts of reasons just to avoid blaming themselves for being bad at the game.

>>712960205
eomm is cancer. fuck that shit nigga