Thread 712977434

Empty Space: The Game
Was open world a mistake?

>>712977434 (OP)
Why is this the only game using photogrammetry this generation?

>>712977434 (OP)
you do't get it, the terrain is the enemy

Nobody's done anything new and interesting with open world since San Andreas

>>712977434 (OP)
Was cool when GTA 1, 2, and 3 did it

>>712977494
I will now get a PS5 and play this game

>>712977434 (OP)
This is the one thing that Kojima has ever done first.
>make a massive open world, virtually nothing but land
>add an excuse storyline and really shitty gameplay onto it
>pay to hangout with hollywood actors, scan their faces and feet as part of the deal
>throw it on Steam
Both of these games are a scam. Open world is a red flag, unless the developer makes clear that the open world isn't the selling point

>>712977674
you still won't get it

>>712977434 (OP)
>Was open world a mistake?
depends, I like open worlds of nier, stellar, skyrim or witcher in a way that I just like wandering around and sightseeing, it's relaxing, but then if you just want to play the game, like do quests and stuff, open world and running from a to b is just a chore.

>>712977926
that's what ubisoft open worlds are for, adhd retards

To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Death Stranding. The gameplay is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of the trigger buttons most of the traversal will go over a typical gamer's head. There's also Kojima's nihilistic outlook, which is deftly woven into his writing - his personal philosophy draws heavily from Hollywood movies, for instance. The fans understand this stuff; they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depths of these references, to realize that they're not just films - they say something deep about LIFE. As a consequence people who dislike Death Stranding truly ARE idiots- of course they wouldn't appreciate, for instance, the meaning behind Amelie's existential catchphrase "Like Mario and Princess 'Beach'" which itself is a cryptic reference to videogame classic, Super Mario Bros. 2. I'm smirking right now just imagining one of those addlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion as Kojima's genius unfolds itself on their television screens. What fools... how I pity them. And yes by the way, I DO have a Norman Reedus tattoo. And no, you cannot see it. It's for the ladies' eyes only- And even they have to demonstrate that they're within 5 IQ points of my own (preferably lower) beforehand.

Open world usually sucks. But it works well in Death Stranding because it isn't open world for the sake of open world.
The open terrain is integrated into the gameplay loop, like another anon said, it is one of the enemies.
Finding paths, navigating obstacles, and climbing both up and down cliff sides was pretty kino.
The issue was in DS1, the last 1/3 of the game it put you against tedious terrain with the mountains. Act 1 and everything pre mountains in act 2 was really good.

My hope in DS2 is more terrain variety. I loved the riverlands and the desert areas of DS1, so hoping they do more of that.

>>712977434 (OP)
I think death stranding is meant to be a love letter to kojima's children because he never spent much time with them, he skipped christmas to stream online all night for Konami during MGSV. I don't think he was ever there for his son.

https://youtu.be/Ogqv6CtBfbE?si=9gUTVMVZvWZ_QBgn

>>712978128
I wouldn't know, never played a single ubisoft game, not even rayman

>>712977434 (OP)
>Empty Space: The Game
Yeah but OP, this time we have avalanches

>>712978261
they are packed full of content but they are formulaic and easily start feeling like a checklist.

>>712978160
>his personal philosophy draws heavily from Hollywood movies, for instance
This is a troll but he literally refers to this as a "Percy Jackson shot"
https://youtu.be/6_58eY1ioBc?t=148

>>712978358
Peter Jackson*

>>712977434 (OP)
game looks absolutely gorgeous, probably the first "next-gen" looking game and it took four fucking years to happen

>>712978435
for some reason it's a basedstation exclusive (a failed console) and I'm not keen on buying a basedstation for a single game. Though it might be 2 games if you include GTA 6. What other games does PS5 have? Astrobot? That's it.

>>712978160
This but unironically

>>712977738
Not every dev understand the concept of open world. Those who forced themselves ended up making McEmpty with NothingBurger buns and Nonexistent sauce. Kojimbo, rockstar, none of them understood the concept of open world as seen on gta, rdr, mgsv, and ds

>>712978160
If komodo wants to make something philisophical he should be resorting to film or animation medium, not some digital capitalistic toy for manchild like bibio gaymes. Shit is like antithesis for the word 'serious' itself

>>712978740
video games are an artistic medium now. Did you forget Silent Hill 2 and The Last of Us?

>>712977434 (OP)
What should be there? Cities? Enemies? Wild life? quests? Natural hazards? Random NPCs? Player structures? The game has all of those.

>>712978160
I ordered the steak, this shitty pasta must be for someone else.

>>712977434 (OP)
great
another ragebait thread with tendies coping because it will never come out on Shitch 2

>>712977434 (OP)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90gpqJE-tLU
Looks fine to me.

>>712982507
>Looks fine to me
Weren't we making fun of Starfield for this a while back?

>>712977434 (OP)
afghanistan's a big place
now go, and let the legend come to life

>>712982690
>we
SIRS

>>712982690
have you ever seen a desert in your life? it's nothing but emptyness

>>712982872
The point is that why would I want to walk through a desert

>>712982690
No. We were not.
Same reason we don't make fun of tetris when when an FPS fails fails to do a block stacking mechanic.
So what are you saying exactly? That no game is allowed to have dunes because starfield lied about what they're gonna have in their games? You sound like a fucking imbecile. The False equivalence shit isn't gonna work on me.
Interesting you chose to screenshot mere seconds before multiple shots of combat and other biomes.

>>712982913
It's good for body and soul

>>712982913
Because it's part of the game you fucking retard.
Starfield's problem wasn't a desert. Starfields' problem was they promised dungeons and quests in the desert and then they didn't deliver what they promised.
Jesus fucking christ are you going to have a meltdown every time a game has a desert?

>>712982938
>>712982993
>why did you show a moment of gameplay from this game I'm defending
buttblasted snoys

>>712983039
nta but thanks for outing yourself as Shitch seether
no port btw :)
>t. SteamGOD

>>712982690
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uoLTro41jA4
Oh boy, all this desert and no gameplay.

>>712983039
>a moment
That's exactly the problem.
You tired to sell a single moment as a whole game while referencing a different type of game from a different genre.
It's like you're a fucking rape baby. No other way someone can be THIS fucking retarded. Even double digit IQ trolls are smarter than you.

>>712983129
I'm a PC gamer. This game isn't coming to PC.
>>712983173
How much of this game is boss fights and action, and how much is walking through empty space?

The emptiness is the point. As the game progresses you create more shelters, roads, ziplines, bunkers etc. as do other players and the world becomes more lived in.

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>HoW MuCh Of ThIs GaMe Is
Why are you this desperate to dismantle the game into components you can cry about? It's a full game you fucking faggot.
Not even worth a (You) holy shit.

>>712983225
>You tired to sell a single moment as a whole game
That single moment is likely representative of a substantial amount of the core gameplay loop. It also had multiple moments around it showing the same thing. It's also the moment they showed first.
>while referencing a different type of game from a different genre.
One of the criticisms of Stafield was that plenty of planets were just empty space.
>No other way someone can be THIS fucking retarded. Even double digit IQ trolls are smarter than you.
Stop projecting, you gaslighting fuck. Either way, you're buttblasted as hell. Do you really believe that you look intelligent here? No, you sound like a buttblasted fanboy who's frothing at the mouth.
>>712983286
>>712983324
mental illness and probably samefag

>>712983451
I've never actually seen a person scared shitless of a videogame before. You are fascinating. Why are you terrified of this game? is it because you're underage and it's not coomer bait? Or are you just terrified of it not being able to fully distract you from your crippling delusions?

>>712983512
>I have no arguments so I will LARP as some evil genius gaslighter
>on 4chan
Holy cringe. You're not fooling anyone. Kys, midwit.

>>712977550
you might wanna go back and play those again lil zoom

>>712983235
>this game isn't coming to PC
6 months till its out on Steam just like DS1

>>712983451
kys faggot

>>712983451
>mental illness and probably samefag
>>712983673

>>712977434 (OP)
Dunno ignoring the pretentious story in the first one the gameplay was pretty comfy. Then again you're talking to a manlet who spent all December wearing diapers, a onesie and footed pajamas while snacking away playing Death Stranding and Fortnite.

>>712983982
I think your brain -acked itself after the flawless dismantling of your unhinged posts.

>>712984064
>pretentious
watch out we got a hot guy on the deck!

>>712977434 (OP)
>DS2 should be a Toddslop amusement park, where you can't run 50 meters without bumping into the next copy-pasta location
Fuck off.

You're a delivery man in a post-apocalyptic world on the brink of complete extinction, not a fucking Uber Eats driver delivering greasy slop in shithole city. Immersion is important, you know.

>>712977434 (OP)
Death Stranding is the one game where open world makes sense because its about connecting a large world up

>>712977434 (OP)
>Was open world a mistake?
Yes.

>>712977434 (OP)
skyrim or probably even oblivion? was a mistake and did a lot of damage to games to this day. game companies to this day try to shoehorn empty open worlds into their games. look at what zelda has become for example. for someone reason games nowadays are advertised with how big their map is in actual miles/km.

>>712984375
Morrowind did more damage to gaming than Oblivion btw

>>712977434 (OP)
The universe is mostly empty space.

>>712977487
I don't know, this is the only game that actually looks like a PS5 game. It makes gta6 look like a cartoon.

>>712984419
And the universe isn't very fun. What's your point?

the idea of someone unironically upset over a video game will never not be the funniest thing on earth

>>712977434 (OP)
Anon, you were warned. They said the game was based in Australia which is 99% empty.

>>712984450

Earth dweller spotted

>>712977434 (OP)
>Empty Space: The Game

>>712985403
zoom in

>>712978229
>Jap didn't spend Christmas with his kids
Nigger, are you stupid?

Christmas is not even an official holiday in Japan, because Japan is not a Christian nation.

>>712978619
But you sure did, pal.
What is a good open world like then? Who understands that concept?

>>712977434 (OP)
It can be fun if you can see where enemies spawn in when you're traveling around to give the illusion it's populated

>>712977434 (OP)
Open worlds are only good when it being difficult to get from a to b is the point, when it's something you have to plan for and execute well.
Open worlds suck when getting around is easy and they're not interwoven into the gameplay.

>>712985497
You healed my soul a little, anon :)
Thank you

>>712985898
>Open worlds are only good when it being difficult to get from a to b is the point, when it's something you have to plan for and execute well.
which is exactly what Death Stranding is doing

I just hope Kojimbo doesn't go bananas on the grafix
I want to play it on my computer

>>712986426
The first game ran fine on my 1080 at 1440p so it will most likely be optimized if the first game is anything to go off of.

>>712986426
i was able to play it on all HIGH settings with my old 1060 6gb back in 2022, zero stutter, ran smooth, i think we should be fine.

>>712986671
What's your other specs? I'm hoping to run the game soon

>>712986858
>>712986671
yeah the first game is running fantastic on my rig
I'm playing it right now

>>712977434 (OP)
Shadow of the Colossus has the best open world to date and I will kill every single one of you motherfuckers if you disagree with me.

>>712987079
>the most pointless open world of all time is le.. best actually
lol no fuck you fag

>>712986981
To be fair I've upgraded since I first played the game but I think i ran it on my old setup of the 1080 and a 4790k. Got 60 most of the time, except for the BT fights, especially the whale one, could feel the dips there, but still playable.

>>712987126
Bitch I'm coming for you

>>712978160
i missed this pasta

>>712977434 (OP)
I liked the first one's mechanic when playing online you could interact with other people's structures for a while but as the game got less players the world became more barren. It was rather depressing.

Is this a death standing 2 thread or a bait thread?

>>712987386
>is this bait or |GAME| thread?
these terms are honestly interchangeable on this shithole

>>712978358
>not posting Kojima's channel but instead your fuckboy
Why?

>>712977434 (OP)
empty head: the post

>>712987160
come on xenobitch

DS is not as bad as typical open worlds. I dislike them greatly but that game at least made the environment require some interactions and it behaved more like a puzzle than a field with trees where you pick a direction and hold W.

>>712987151
Good to know! I'm getting a 1080 for free from a friend.
What have you upgraded to recently? I'm hoping to be able to get something newer soon before ds2 comes to PC

>>712987865
Honestly I see more the world of death stranding to be big levels than actual open world, there's still some kind of linear route for you to progress.
it's only "open world" after the story.

>>712982690
>when you crashland on duna

Muttbros... I fixed the game

>>712977487
I’m just glad I have an autistic layout for how the future will happen and I keep being right.

What does Canada look like in DS lore?

>>712988656
>no walmart with a massive parking lot in front of it
ngmi

>>712988656
kek

>>712977434 (OP)
No it's how we sell vram.
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