>is powerful wizard who has access to lvl10 spells
>can stop time and summon celestial beings as his slaves
>is bald and cant get laid
>simps for halflings
Even the most powerful magic cant fix autism

All I know about this character is that he turns into a woman in Baldur's Gate 2.

I personally prefer Nalia.
For reasons.

He also troon out at a point in the story

>>713007503 (OP)
Because he's teaming up with simians like (you)

>>713007503 (OP)
Wow. Okay. Did we really need to have the jab at the follically challenged in there?

>>713008663
>>713007987
>tfw it was played as a joke
>we now live in a time where the same sort of nerds who wrote this shit are popping estrogen and prancing around claiming to be "lesbian" women

>>713007503 (OP)
Edwin isn't bald though

>>713007503 (OP)
>is bald
Is he? I think I never took off his robe in BGII. But I'm pretty sure he had hair in BG.

>>713009265
>>713009375
Red wizards are bald

>>713007503 (OP)
Baldur's gate is older than 99.5% of this board. Just look at these retards: >>713009265, >>713009375

>>713009375
He isn't.
Red Wizards of Thay being bald is a late 3e retcon, that's years after BG1.

>>713009375
In his second portrait he kinda looks like he has hair, but it could also be a helmet, on the other hand his first portrait clearly shows that it's a diadem, not a helmet
His character model does have hair though, and it's not the same color as his skin like Minsc, who is actually bald
>>713009540
They''re supposed to be shaved too, who cares

>>713009706
>and it's not the same color as his skin like Minsc
In the original BG1 and 2 Minsc had white hair, because the devs had no access to "skin" hair color and that was the next best thing. It only changed with EE.

>>713009706
>but it could also be a helmet

I guess it's some kind of weird helmet, it's also got those side bits. Maybe it's his new fetish gear, to go along with the piercings.

>>713007503 (OP)
He is a wizard BECAUSE he is bald and can't get laid.

>>713007503 (OP)
Is he bald? Doesn't matter, magic not tieing into the story is lame. In witcher 3 you have few conversations how great spells are, but that's that. These details suddenly make it rpg of the century. Lol at the absolute state of vidya.

>>713009706
>nose piercing
>basedbeard
100% bald.

>>713009683
Red Wizard's dislike of body hair is mentioned in Dreams of Red Wizards, a book from 1988 and the first book Red Wizards are mentioned in. Though it wasn't a straight up rule back then

>>713008273
the game makes fun of nalia because she is a sjw. good times.

>>713007503 (OP)
is a tranny

>>713008273
For me its Jaheira

>>713012145
Yeah. And her romance mod is cute.

>>713012541
I always found her romance creepy, because it's like dating your mom.
But then you realize she's in her early 20's as well and you get confused.

>>713012606
Which one?
There are 2 of them.

>>713013956
The better one.
De'Arnise Romance + Nalia At Last for ToB.

>>713014049
Yea I tried the other one and it was some cuck shit about her ex boyfriend getting killed or something like that.

>>713014271
This one actually plays into the fact that Nalia is an autist that's way over her head. It's cute.

>>713012541
https://youtube.com/shorts/tsG9yxO9cV8

>>713014407
Ehh maybe I'll give it a go. Ranger/Cleric +thief/mage is all you need.

>>713015092
I swear to god, Aerie's romance theme still triggers some Pavlovian reaction in me.

>>713012701
Eh. Not your mom. More like your aunt who is a little older than you. …And you’re adopted. The BG2 romances are great but they all have their weirdnesses. So it comes down to what you’re specifically into or not into.

>>713015329
There are a ton of things that BG2 did really, really well with respect to the romances that somehow got forgotten afterwards by everyone in the industry including BioWare.

>>713016052
And then you do your math and realize she's not THAT much older than you. Maybe 2-3 years tops. I guess while CHARNAME was busy neeting out in Candlekeep, she's been getting into all sorts of scraps with Gorion and Khalid.

>>713007503 (OP)
I am slowly going through BG1 and I have to admit, its really good but DND fucking SUCKS at low levels, it gets good at like lvl 5-10 but then it becomes retarded again.

>>713016470
I like how the romances are spaced out to almost be guaranteed to last an entire game, so they feel meaningful. And you can actually fuck them up if you say a wrong thing at the wrong time. So you feel like you've earned that fucking sex scene in the end, instead of it being three conversations where you just pick the flirt option and that's it.

>>713016769
>but DND fucking SUCKS at low levels
Depends. Fighters and thieves are fine, rangers are retardedly OP, because turns out low-level enemies have real difficulty dodging your arrows, spellcasters are pure misery.

>>713016825
Yea romance convos happening depending on real time instead of game time was actually a good idea.
Even if I absolutely hate it on replays when it surely takes me 1/4 of the time I beat the game in originally.

>>713007503 (OP)
Just summon some ass to fuck
What good is being a powerful wizard if you can't enslave demonic whores for sex

>>713016769
install SCS you will have more "fun" low level, every ranged skele will kite your melee or interrupt your casters and enemy mages cast actually good spells

>>713011349
it's d&d, all the thinking that goes into magic is literally just "i guess you can do these things because reasons, whatever, also nobody ever uses it in an efficient manner because... because otherwise the setting wouldn't exist"

>>713017145
It does have its downsides, like for instance Viconia's romance being so fucking LONG that you'll most likely end the game several times over before the romance concludes, but I guess there are mods for that to decrease the lovetalk timer.

if i have a completed baldurs gate 1 save file does anything carry over to bg2?

>>713017228
No, in FR it's "I can do this, because Mystra thinks it's funny".

>>713017386
Only your character and some items. Don't expect any kind reactivity transfer. You killed Imoen in BG1 for some reason? She's alive and well in BG2.

>>713017303
I used to just leave the game running on pause, and often exhausted the romance dialogues before even making it out of Athkatla. It's especially funny with Jaheira, since her husband literally just died.

>>713017386
yes you char with stats bonuses from 1st game and items i think

>>713007503 (OP)

>>713017303
Yea but like I said.
That only really applies to subsequent runs. You definitely use 2x more time on average the first or second time you play the game.

Friendly reminder that the only reason Edwin got himself into this sexchanging mess was because he picked up a cursed item.
He's a Conjurer. They don't have access to Identify spells.
That's the joke.

>>713007503 (OP)
The series has multiple instances of wizards enslaving dryads to fuck.

>>713017214
But the issue with low-level Baldurs Gate is that you have shit stats and a single digit number of spells.
If anything the weak AI makes it easier to farm XP to level up your party.

(my condition draws fools like flies to honey)

How do you keep evil companions from leaving? i always cap reputation fast and to be safe you would need to stay at like 16 but killing people is -9 so you will be at like 9 rep which will make shop prices suck ass.

>>713018156
They leave if you get rep 19 or higher.
Just memorize all the quests and options that give you higher rep.
I managed to keep Korgan in my party at rep 18

>>713018156
Just make sure your reputation isn't at max. They will grumble, but nothing bad will happen. Also, you can always use the Slayer mode to decrease your reputation by -2.
There is also a mod that adds bards who can lower your rep, essentially a reverse of the temples.
And IIRC romanced Viconia never ever leaves you even if the rep is at max.

>>713018156
mod it out

>>713007503 (OP)
High INT wizards are always retarded, whats his WIS? i cant remember

>>713018692
10 or 11. Game treats it like it's 3.

>>713018692
10. Obviously.
It becomes funny when you realize that his actual stats are outright ABYSMAL, but his still ridiculously good thanks to this high INT, good subclass and that one cheater item.
Nalia for instance blows him out of the water stat-wise, but she requires a lot more micromanagment to get really good.

>>713007503 (OP)
I think this genre generally is one of those things that's more fun to think about than actually partake in. Like where's the actual fun when you actually finally launch one of these games? The combat? There are games with better tactical combat. The writing/ story? Books and VNs are better. Roleplay? Other RPGs and tabletop are better.

>>713018894
Nalia is actually a complete Stacy when it comes to stats. Great physicas but she still need that plus 1 to int from watcher's keep to cast max level spells.

>>713019179
By the time you are able to cast 9th level spells, you will have access to Golden Ioun Stone anyway.
Also, ALWAYS give Nalia Dak'kon's sword. Those spell slots don't come cheap.

>>713009706
Is the BG2 version AI upscaled or something? Otherwise it might really be a helmet given how it has similar symmetrical shapes and quite a different color than his beard.

>>713018156
You can also be seen stealing.

>>713007503 (OP)
>gets backstabbed

>>713019741
To be fair, that's a legit tactic for a rogue CHARNAME. So many annoying mage fights can be skipped with one backstab.
Including the final one with Irenicus.

>>713007503 (OP)
>>713009706
I just remarked that he has a comical Fu Manchu mustache in his first portrait

>>713018894
INT has nothing to do with it. He's powerful for one reason and one reason alone: his bullshit amulet.

Even his specialization is dogshit. Losing Detect Invisibility, Oracle and True Sight? Fucking LOL.

-2 penalty on outgoing Conjuration saves is nearly as bad as Illusion, Abjuration and Divination. Two-thirds of his specialization kit is completely wasted. Evocation, Necromancy, Enchantment, and even fucking Alteration are arguably better (simply for that tasty -6 penalty to Slow).

Nah, Edwin is a second-rate wizard with top cummies from his dev mummies, and nothing more. Without that fucking retarded amulet he'd be on par with Imoen as a pure spellcaster.

Now, pic related on the other hand....

>>713020215
>Neera
No.

>>713020215
he cant use Amulet of Power in BG2 which makes him much weaker than in bg2

>>713020506
>casts vocalize
Problem solved. Next.

>>713019137
CRPGs are great because the systemically integrate all those disparate parts in a way that pretty much nothing but actual TTRPGs do. Yes other media may do this or that aspect better, but CRPGs make them all play off one another to give a holistic feeling of embodying the character.

>>713020552
>Improves casting speed by 1
>immunity to Level drain

I want to one day meet that one gamedev that designed the Cloak of Mirroring. Who is he? Why is he this way? What dark secrets does he hold?

>>713020784
>be Aerie
> wear amulet of power + robe of vecna
> chain instant implosion 3x for 6 gorilion dmg

>>713021296
>Faster than Chiktikka Fastpaws :3

THIS IS ONCE AGAIN A REMINDER THAT TIAX RULES, AND THE ENTIRETY OF BALDURS GATE SHALL BE DEMOLISHED AND THE THRONE REFURBISHED TO BECOME THE ENTRANCE TO HIS CASTLE. You little monkeyspanker.

>>713021569
yet to find her portrait replacement which doesnt suck

>>713020784
>Why are you getting hit by a vampire as a mage ohshitniggerwtfrudoin
And improved casting speed by 1 is... fine I guess? I just don't think that's worth two additional 4th, 6th, 8th, and 9th level spells. Especially with Robe of Vecna in the mix, an item which Edwin can wear.

Hear me out: my take is that casting speed is meaningful in two ways, 1) A single additional casting speed to make Stoneskin, PfMW, Mantle, and first level disruptors (Larloch's Minor Drain, MM, Chromatic Orb) uninterruptible, or 2) a substantial increase to casting speed (Robe of Vecna) which opens up barrage options, which becomes particularly devastating late game. You either want a little on one item, or a lot on one item.

With Robe of Vecna, casting speed is improved by 4. The slowest spell you're going to be casting is Time Stop (speed 9) and ADHW (speed 8). The robe halves the time commitment of both of these spells, which is obviously a massive improvement, especially with Imp. Alacrity up.

With Robe of Vecna *and* Amulet of Power, we're at a net improvement of 5. This is a diminishing return on value. Sure, it's *nice* to have a few additional useful spells at uninterruptible speeds (I think -5 casting speed makes Death Spell, Cloudkill and Death Fog uninteruptible, as well as True Sight) but it isn't that much better than just the -4 casting speed conferred from the Robe of Vecna.

For this reason, I almost never put Amulet of Power on my Robe of Vecna user, preferring instead to keep it on my clerics. Why? Well, for one, clerics don't have access to Vocalize. Additionally, clerics are far more likely to need to get into melee range with vamps than wizards. Finally, clerics value their chest slot more than mages. There's an obvious choice for BIS chest armor if you're a mage: Robe of Vecna. For clerics, who have access to full plate, BIS is much more situational.

>>713021296
This is admittedly pretty GOAT, but she needs that hefty 6mil XP.

>>713021767
>For this reason, I almost never put Amulet of Power on my Robe of Vecna user, preferring instead to keep it on my clerics. Why? Well, for one, clerics don't have access to Vocalize. Additionally, clerics are far more likely to need to get into melee range with vamps than wizards. Finally, clerics value their chest slot more than mages. There's an obvious choice for BIS chest armor if you're a mage: Robe of Vecna. For clerics, who have access to full plate, BIS is much more situational.
Unless you are Aerie and you don't care.

Speaking of Aerie, I just wish her content and romance weren't so insanely lackluster. You can tell she was a last-second addition to the game, just like Imoen was in BG1.

>>713021582
>tfw when Tiax's ghast has a higher charisma than Quayle
>tfw when Tiax's ghast strikes with an innate +6 weapon
wtf was Black Isle thinking?

>>713022067
Ehhh I'll take it.
The only one you can knock up.

>>713017386
You can carry everything in if you use multiplayer as a single player game. Doing it like that also have some additional benefits like wearing x2 Wings of Wizardry at once. BG2 won't let you equip two of those at once for some reason.

>>713022175
You know what they were thinking, anon. Tiax rules. I really love the idea of a cleric/thief combo. It's so satisfying for some dumb reason. I just wish the dude could have been recruited earlier.

>>713022396
Well, you can also knock up Viconia. And with Ascension - Jaheira.

>>713020784
Amulet of Power is great, don't get me wrong, but Edwin gets an extra spell of every level which is way more bullshit. Lowering the casting speed isn't as important until Improved Alacrity which Edwin gets an extra use of. And he can still wear Robe of Vecna for that boost.

>>713022396
Except that you have a child with Viconia too

>>713020406
warhammer is cringe
more cringe than nortubel

>>713018894
>his actual stats are outright ABYSMAL
A mage only need 18 int and 16 con.

>>713016769
Low level adventure is not a selling point, endgame bg1 is pretty nice but auto attacking and resting gnolls to death early-mid game gets old fast. Also cc is to powerful in bg1 and lasts way to long that a lot of the tougher fights is just throwing out chaos and paralyze before they can even do anything.
Higher levels introduce more spell protection, removal of cc, higher saving throws, immunity items and magic res.
Bg2 is a far more interesting game

>>713023556
I refuse to accept that ending.

>>713023791
High DEX is actually more important. That's why Nalia is almost unkillable, especially with that +2 AC ring of hers, while Edwin dies to a sneeze.

>>713023210
Cleric/thief is pretty good to be honest. Really strong backstabbing plus shitloads of utility. The main thing you miss out on is sustained DPS, but depending on your party that may be fine.

>>713024027
Thankfully it's non-canon.
You want to hear about the monkey's paw, anon?

>>713018156
Go into a random house and kill a literal who every-time you have 16-18 rep
Its so fucking stupid and people most be shitposting when they talk about how well these games make you feel evil

>>713024124
Another side factor in favor of Aerie’s romance.

>>713024052
>clerics can't wield bladed weapons
>need blade to backstab
say what

>>713024126
Nah, everybody knows that evil playthroughs in BG games don't work, because they weren't designed for them. You still have to be good to an extent, otherwise if your rep gets too low, you will get overwhelmed by bounty hunters and attacked by every guard on sight, making cities almost unusable.

>>713024040
Cast stoneskin you gay nigga. 18 dex won't save your ass from high level mobs.

>>713024269
Staves can backstab the one striking one is prob best backstab weapon.

>>713023210
I run the cdTweaks component that makes him accessible in Beregost instead of Baldur's Gate city. Massive improvement. He really comes into his own as a C/T since you no longer need to split your support/thief utility roles with him. Running Tiax instead of a thief + Viconia/Branwen is very refreshing.

Also, I hate how C/T has to backstab with staves and clubs. Don't get me wrong, staves are a strong choice but I just... eugh. Not for me.

>>713024269
You can backstab with any weapon a standard thief can become proficient with. This is basically every one-handed pokey/stabby/slicey weapon, as well as clubs and quarterstaves. Staff of Striking and Staff of the Ram are actually very powerful backstabbing weapons late game. Staff of the Archmagi is great too.

>>713024269
Anon. You can backstab with any melee weapon that thieves have proficiency in. The two best backstabbing specific weapons are both quarterstaves (Staff of Striking and Staff of the Ram).

>>713024052
>cleric/thief
>backstab
Nigga what?

>>713024318
Being evil just doesn’t make sense in a real world sense because evil characters roleplay wise should never bother to even do content, instead focusing on just their primary goal for power.
Its the opposite of an rpg

>>713024269
You can backstab with a quarterstaff just fine. Staff of striking gives you a lot of bang for your buck.

>>713024417
5e and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race.

>>713024417
Just imagine it as smacking someone over the head with a big stick.

>>713024624
That's ridiculous.

>>713021698
Just use the one that the Dungeon Meshi mangaka drew.

>>713022067
Are you serious? She had the best romance of the three. The fact she's actually feminine and relies on you to help her through her problems is a plus, not a negative.

>>713024683
But her romance is so ridiculously short, you'll be done with it before you even leave Athkatla.

>>713024683
it wont fit its too different, i use mostly vanilla with few replaced like Jaheira and Imoen

>>713024683
Her portrait is so ugly I had no idea Aerie was supposed to be super hot and better looking than Vicky or Jaheria

>>713023479
>but Edwin gets an extra spell of every level which is way more bullshit.

Two extra spells in BG2, plus a third extra from being a specialist mage. Although they might have changed this in the beamdog edition, I wouldn't know.

>>713024261
That one isn't canon either, Charname just went back to Candlekeep, then Baldur's Gate, became Grand Duke, and eventually died alongside Viekang and Bhaal was revived

>>713024869
If you're going to use AI stuff for her at least use the ones where she still looks cute.

>>713024869
They fit surprisingly well.

>>713025129
Which is not what ToB was about, but sure, WotC have it your way. Which also opens a gigantic plot hole, because Murder in Baldur's Gate apparently forgot about Sarevok and Imoen.

>>713025129
Well if you’re that autistic you should be using the Abel Adrian pregen every play though. My point is that it’s not directly refuted by BG3.

>>713024318
Evil playthroughs work just fine. If you want murder hobo, that's not just evil, it's also stupid. Real evil means ensuring that every action you take in some way benefits your character. Nothing is ever done for free, and if you have to do disgusting, morally reprehensible things to get your way, so be it -- so long as you can keep up a veil of either deniability or innocence. Funnily enough, you absolutely *can* murder-hobo your way through BG I & II for the most part, so long as you don't attack quest giving NPCs.

>>713024425
Why not? Generating acclaim from helping thousands of retarded peasants to that you get shit for free is absolutely within the MO of an evil being. Even evil outsiders now how to fool normies into doing things which benefit them.

An evil playthrough pursues the first storyline out of a desire for accomplishment and to take revenge on Gorion's murder. Or perhaps because they're envious of the power wielded by the figure which killed Gorion (as is indicated in the first dream sequence of the game). In the second game, and evil protagonist can expressly state over and over that they're primary motivations are essentially beating/torturing out a means to acquire additional power from Irenicus. Both of these motivations are believably evil. Expanded content outside of the interaction with the main story line can be viewed as drudgery from an evil protagonist. Chores intended to amass power, fostering praise among the peasantry and fear throughout their enemies. There are even multiple side quests which can be creatively bypassed exclusively by intelligent evil characters (Firekraag is the big one I can remember -- you need to be evil with an intelligence score of 15 or more).

>>713025254
I will now play Imoen romance mod.

>>713007503 (OP)
You must be autistic to gain the most powerful magic. Its a catch 22

>>713025080
The artist who made the BG2 portraits just traced photographs of real people, this is why Aerie looks so terrible, because he actually attempted to draw her straight up without tracing, maybe because she's an Elf. I assume he did this before just throwing up his hands and just tracing for Viconias portrait as well after he realized he can't draw otherwise.

>>713025080
At least in the English dub, her voice is really cute. In the Polish dub, she sounds so shrill, she makes your ears bleed everytime she opens her mouth. Like she's Kate Capshaw in Temple of Doom or something.

>>713025462
>except for the hair literally every detail about the face is noticeably different
cope

>>713025352
It's not even that good of a mod.

>>713025595
lol
lmao
Nice to see a man taking face blindness to the next level. The other portraits are the same by the way, put a picture of Drew Barrymore next to Nalia, for example.

>>713025754
Imoen is a ride or die childhood friend that sticks by you no matter what, is cute, and in the second game becomes a damsel that you rescue like a gallant knight. The mod is not that good, no, but the desire to romance Imoen is a completely natural and understandable one.

>>713025852
And Valygar is Vin Diesel. BG2 is still pretty tame about this. NWN1 on the other hand - EVERY single portrait was a trace of one celebrity or another, to the point Bioware got sued and had to change them for expansions.

>>713025462
who is chick on left anyway

>>713026412
Some Czech pornstar.

>>713026412
Zdenka Podkapova, a softcore porn model who was popular at the time. I genuinely think the artist choosing to use her as the tracing model is 90% of the reason for Viconias popularity.

>>713025080
>Aerie was supposed to be super hot and better looking than Vicky or Jaheria
She isn't, the hot one is Viconia, that's why they used a porn star for her portrait, Aerie is the cute one, Jaheira is the middle ground hag

>>713026571
That and Grey Griffin's sex voice. Which is hilarious, because Grey Griffin also voices Nalia of all people.
And, no, I will never stop being salty that none of the returning charactes in BG3 are voiced by their original voice actors. All of them outside of Heidi Shannon are still working in the industry.

>>713026649
Aerie and Viconia are both CHA 14. Jaheira is CHA 15. They’re all supposed to be attractive elves.

>>713026649
This is D&D, we have objective statistical measurements of attractiveness. Viconia and Aerie both have 14 Charisma, so they're attractive, but not astonishingly so, Jaheira has 15 Charisma and therefore is more attractive than either of them, and finally Imoen has 16 Charisma which means she's the cutest and most beautiful of them all.

>>713025080
D&D elves are kind of alien-y.

>>713027215
Until 5e had given up on it and just portrayed them as humans with funny ears.

>>713027215
D&D elves are all over the damned place visually.

>>713027159
So, according to that logic, Keldorn and... ugh... Hexxat are the most attractive people in Faerun?

>>713027159
Is the spawn of two bhaalspawn a bhaalspawn?

>>713027367
I like that his particular piece of art was a result of miscommunication between the artist and the designers
>ok, draw some elves, but make them black
>...no, not like that, you idiot
It just kept happening during the TSR days.

>>713027309
And then there's the latest artistic portrayal of Elves in D&D Beyond. It was a good run while it lasted for fantasy Elves.

>>713027461
Actually yes.
Doesn't Sarevok even chew you out on knocking up Aerie at one point, because what you did was prolonging the Bhaalspawn bloodline?

aerie is a bitch, fucking whore

>>713027414
>Keldorn
Yes.
>Hexxat
Fan fiction EE characters are irrelevant, the people who made them don't even understand how D&D statistics work or what they're supposed to represent.

>>713027635
To be fair, outside of WotC's constant need to put ethnic racial features on a non-human race for no reason, this isn't that far-fetched.
There was a ridiculous amount of different elf subraces even back in AD&D days. The issue is that they were their own thing, not just humans with pointy ears.

>>713027159
>>713027414
Charisma is a combination of appearance and force of personality.

>>713028000
Damn that is some UGLY art, thank god AI is forcing all the people like this who don't deserve a paycheck to find other means to make a living.

>>713028119
Yes, Imoen also has the most forceful and entertaining personality of those characters, so it is a good and accurate statistical representation of that fact. Also note that Imoen is one of the three smartest characters in the game, only matched by Nalia and beaten by Edwin.

>>713024869
This is the one that I used. It's not the best and a bit generic but it is serviceable. Or just use AI to generate one.

>>713028119
This. Danny DeVito and Wayne Knight have high CHA scores irl, attractiveness is not a requirement.

>>713027813
That statement makes zero sense considering she's the only virgin out of all the females you can romance.

Best companion mods?
If you say Saerileth, I will kill your little sister in her sleep.

>>713028753
>Danny DeVito, Wayne Knight
No, they don't, if they had high Charisma they would have both personality AND looks, not just one, which is why neither of them could ever be gigantic stars the way someone like Leonardo DeCaprio or Brad Pitt or Sean Connery could be, because those guys have both looks AND personality. CHA by definition requires both to reach the highest levels of the statistic, which makes sense, appearance matters to other people no matter how much you might try to deny it, a good looking person will always have an easier time influencing and winning people over than an ugly one does.

>>713029146
There are no good companion mods for BG. That includes the EE companions, of course.

>>713029391
I like Skitia's companions.

>>713028000
>Wild Elf is a nigger
heh

>>713030026
Eh, outside of the hair, the drow looks more niggery
That reminds me, did any franchise ever bother with shit like desert or savannah elves? Where you'd have a climate where you could add all the nog elves you'd ever want, without them feeling out of place? But I guess giving every race their own biome would go against current trends.

>>713029040
a retarded bitch then

>>713031325
Also a faulty statement since she has high mental scores across the board.

>>713031873
yeah high mental retardation score

>>713032163
No, mental retardation in D&D is indicated by a low Wisdom score, and she has a high one. The only characters in BG2 that would qualify as retarded by D&Ds statistical system are Minsc, Korgan, and Nalia.

>>713032845
...Nalia's just naive.:(

>>713007503 (OP)
>becomes a woman
I usually just kill him and take his necklace it's fucking OP

>>713032927
after I farm him for storyline XP

>>713032927
I don't think you can even equip his necklace.

>>713032985
you're right. it's the ring of Wizardry I'm thinking of

>>713032985
>>713033197
and the Ring of Acuity

>>713033238
don't listen to me I haven't played this game in over a decade

>>713032845
I know but let me hate Aerie pls anon...

>>713033510
we all hate aerie. vicona is the best girl

>>713028000
>sun elf has a crescent moon on his shield
???

>>713032985
sure can if you use Keeper

>>713033581
it's almost as if Corellon is their patron god or something.

>>713033510
No, I will not allow it, any criticism of the only CRPG waifu who actually attains the impossibility of being cute, young, a virgin, and eventually bearing your children shall not be borne. I still remember thinking Aerie would only be the beginning of that kind of character and romance in CRPGs, and to this day she's still the gold standard. Tragic.

>>713033552
False, Keldorn was right about Viconia and the only thing she's "best" at is serving as kindling for a fire.

i'm starting neverwinter nights, what will i think of itO/

>>713033904
>No, I will not allow it, any criticism of the only CRPG waifu who actually attains the impossibility of being cute, young, a virgin, and eventually bearing your children shall not be borne. I still remember thinking Aerie would only be the beginning of that kind of character and romance in CRPGs, and to this day she's still the gold standard. Tragic.
Aerie is fucking stupid childish and obnoxious

>>713033951
Everyone says the main campaign is shit becauyse it server as a test for the rest
I really loved the first part but the second half feels a little dull
Haven't played the expacs, they're in my backlock

>>713033951
>NWN 1 OC
condolences, friend

>>713033983
No, she's just vulnerable, traumatized, and as a feminine girl, completely reliant on a male to fix her life and help her through her problems. Brilliant rendition of a character, honestly.

>>713034176
she's a BITCH

>>713033951
It's quite boring and the lack of a full party really kills it, since the game was designed as a module builder you then played multiplayer with your friends, and the campaign was just an afterthought they threw together as a minor showcase of what the tools could do.

Is roughly similar and compatible physiology the only criterion for whether two races can create a hybrid or not in DnD?

>>713034259
That really makes no sense as a criticism since she simply cries and feels sorry for herself, she never mistreats anyone else in the game even when they deserve it, she's characterized as the kindest and sweetest companion in the game by far.

>>713034376
well I remember her being mean to others in the party
played too long ago tho so can barely remember

>>713034307
They published a full and official chart regarding that information, actually.

>>713034307
No. Not in the fucking slightest.
Yes. Dragons and humans do in fact breed with everything.

>>713034445
You are remembering wrong then, the most she does is push back on Jaheira and Viconia (and even then, barely) after they flagellate her repeatedly. Hell even Korgan has to go through multiple banters outright berating her before she finally snaps back at him. I get why some people dislike her character since they don't want to deal with a traumatized person, but she is absolutely a sweetheart personality wise.

...do I want to know how a hot dragon on sprite action looks like?

>>713034648
>I get why some people dislike her character since they don't want to deal with a traumatized person
A lot of people dislike her, because she comes off as extremally whiny. She immediately starts crying about her wings... which is actually a bug in the game, because she was supposed to have a few more conversations prior to that that were completely unrelated to that.
Not to mention that her wings are a bit of a first world problem to most people.

>>713034493
I'm kind of an outside observer when it comes to DnD, what's up with dragons and nymphs in that chart? How could a dragon and a dwarf even have sex when their bodies are nowhere near compatible? Or ogres and humans.

>>713035169
>How could a dragon and a dwarf even have sex when their bodies are nowhere near compatible?
Very carefully, anon.
Very carefully.

The real answer is that dragons can fucking polymorph.

>>713034902
I mean if you look at the grand total of what happened to her it's pretty horrific, she lost her family, her people, her place in the world, and was enslaved, and then the one hope she ever had of getting back any of the things she lost, her wings, gets infected because her captors won't listen to her and end up being violently sawn off her body, which almost kills her (she only survived because Quayle saved her) and she realizes she's now trapped on the ground forever and will never see her family again, and she's now basically a cripple to her people (and in her own view of herself). And keep in mind all of this happened to her when she was a kid. And on top of that, all of this happened to her simply because she tried to save another kid from slavers, and she doesn't even know if he even got away and if it meant anything at all.

I think that would massively fuck most people up, so I didn't hold it against her that she felt so bad, lonely, and miserable. Crying about that kind of thing is only natural.

>>713035169
Most dragons can shapeshift
What's the issue with ogres and humans?

>>713035345
>and she's now basically a cripple to her people (and in her own view of herself).
Yes, but... she's a cleric. She has access to Regeneration.
This is a problem with D&D and dramatic stories. It's really hard to pull of this kind of story, when you have magic that can literally fix anything.

>>713035529
Yeah I don't disagree there, it's beyond retarded that you can't fix her once you have the levels to do it. I could take not being able to heal her before that because super high level Clerics (Regeneration is a seventh level spell, which is max spell level for clerics) are actually quite rare and wouldn't be easy to locate or pay to do it, but once you hit the requisite level there should have been an event where you can restore her wings. The writer obviously didn't want to deal with how D&D high level casters work though, which is why you only get to heal her if you ascend to divinity, which is ridiculous, it doesn't take actual divinity to heal such wounds in the Forgotten Realms.

>>713034493
>>713034496
Are humans stereotyped as indiscriminate perverts in DnD for being down to fuck (but probably not breed) almost anything that moves and vaguely looks humanoid, or are other races just as, uh, sexually liberal?

>>713035730
maybe you can't regrow limbs that have "healed over", e.g. created a stump. It might be time-limited
>B-But the rulebook sayz!
yeah but still. the body has given up on the arm/leg/hip-wing, and chosen another path. can't be coerced into creating something it doesn't want anymore.

>>713007503 (OP)
>simps for halflings
What did I miss by not having him in the team? I was playing as a mage myself, with his portrait to boot, so I never used him.

>>713033904
beat thing keldorn was good for is the gold from his shitty sword and his XP after I killed him.

>>713036636
That's mostly Ed Greenwoods influence. He created the Forgotten Realms setting, and he's an old school hippie free love gigapervert. Bless his old gooner heart.

>>713036715
Pretty sure he's considered the most OP non-MC person in the game

>>713036636
I mean, yeah. "Boldly coming" is humans' hat in fact. As for "sexually liberal" - depends on the race. Dwarves are naturally VERY conservative, some elves are very liberal. You'll probably get a good fuck from a moon elf, drow (although unless this is an Eilistraeean drow, you might not survive the process) or even a wood elf, but sun elves will just declare you beneath them.

>>713036756
I was mostly thinking of IRL human sexuality when I said that humans would be seen as indiscriminate perverts. Just think of this site, people can be turned on and be sold on the idea of sex with practically anything that you can think of as long as it has the absolute slightest resemblance to a woman's body. If DnD races were real IRL I'm sure there would be some guy out there who's all about even the weirdest combinations.

>>713036756
His personal waifu was EIlistraee and he was VERY upset when he find out WotC hates her and wants to kill her off to the point he started crying. God bless him.

>>713033951
>what will i think of it
you'll think "wow i didn't know bioware was already at the weird preachy part of their legacy, i didn't think that was till later, but this native american disease blanket allegory is pretty on the nose huh"

>>713024683
Shame he didn't do the rest of the BG portraits.

Post turnips

>>713020215
remake OC aside
why would anyone want a wild mage in their party when wild mage is the most fun mage spec to actually play as yourself?

>>713037161
weird, because she seems like just the kind of
>le contrarian god that isn't actually evil
people love nowadays

Fucking Davaeron, i already know SCS will be massive pain in ass in BG2 if i ever get there

>>713037997
Which only shows how out of touch with their own fanbase WotC is and always has been. Because Eilistraee was always *insanely* popular. Being a hot, kindhearted goddess that actually makes drow more nuanced probably had something to do with it.
But due to WotC's personal biases, they thought she's just some dumb goddess nobody cares about and can safely kill her off. Oh, boy, were they wrong, once the angry emails started pouring in.

>>713036832
Only because he has his sword.

>>713038004
SCS is only good for dumb boomers who have played the game a million times and want to squeeze more juice out of it.

>>713034493
That’s from the Book of Erotic Fantasy. Which is D&D, but isn’t official.

>>713038287
I wouldn't know, I don't allow cucks in my party.

>>713012701
She was 17 or 18 in BG1.

>>713038004
you wanna throw 2-3 webs down the entrance hall where the adds spawn and try to deal with daveaorn quickly before they run out. also if you can get a thief in there before the fight starts to disarms the traps or even get a cheeky backstab off on daveaorn it makes it a lot easier. GL it's a tough fight

>>713038519
Then why are you in the party...?

>>713038004
I actually dropped SCS the second I realized that Silke is now a level 10 spellcaster, because lol, lmao.
SCS actually improves the enemies AI, so now they are using every spell at their disposal, but the problem is that many NPCs in the game have their levels attached at random. So Silke was a ridiculously high-level bard, but her AI was deliberately dumbed down, so that a party of level 1-2 characters can defeat her. SCS fixes her AI... but doesn't change her level. Cue Silke casting Stoneskin and Fireballs, while you can just watch, becuse you have no means to counter a Stoneskin on level 1.

>>713036832
His kit is OP but there are ten thousand ways to break unmodded BG2 in half so it's not like it matters that much.

>>713038539
Her in-game bio suggests she was born around Ten Black Days of Eleint, that took place in 1347.
Which would make her around 22-23 in BG1. Which is... weird, but not really implausible.

>>713025080
D&D elves have somewhat alien eyes and looks like TES elves except they're also manlets

>>713039128
Unless the artist forgets about it. I think in 5e, they all had forgotten about it entirely.

>>713038692
Can't be a cuck if you never felt the touch of a woman
*tips fedora of opposite alignment*

>>713038773
Why would you be level 1 in Beregost? Didn't you go and farm ankhegs or what

>>713007987
Can you blame him? He wanted to finally get laid, so he changed the game to easy mode.

>>713032845
>mental retardation in D&D is indicated by a low Wisdom score
No, it's indicated by low Intelligence score; low Int and high Wis are the homeless bums you meet who give you good life advice how to not end up like them.

>>713027879
Based gigachad cuck

>>713025462
>>713026571
Was the artist Greg Land or something?

>>713027113
>>713027159
Charisma /= Comeliness
Otherwise we'd have nothing but supermodels in Congress.

>>713040057
Just saying: Have you seen Nancy Pelosi's titties?

>>713040176
Hrm, you might be on to something, wasn't that long ago some dude broke into her house and assaulted her husband in a desperate attempt to catch a glimpse.

>>713038364
i think the AI and slight OP spell rebalance is great but i might have fucked up by adding all components which "improve" boss fights cause that shit makes them much harder, probably better after 3++ playthrough.

>>713012541
>replacing sovl with AI slop

>>713017214
SCS bandit camp is kino. But you definitely need a bunch of potions.

>>713038773
Silke was always a L10 caster, even in base OG BG1 TotSC.

The difference is now she actually has all of her spells filled out, and uses them. It pissed me off too at first, cuz I had heard that SCS "plays fair" and when I got ass-pounded by Silke dropping a 10d6 Lightning Bolt on my party, assumed that the mod creator had pumped enemy levels, but that wasn't the case. This is why SCS (unlike Tactics and IA) actually still has a growing community of players, and reliably generates renewed interest with every update. The creator of the mod actually *does* try and keep things as "fair" as possible for an explicit difficulty mod.

>>713038004
It's not that bad once you get the hang of it. Davaeorn is really only dangerous when he teleports around. If you can blitz his ass (backstabbing him is always a good opener if you can manage it) he should have his Stoneskins peeled pretty quickly, and after that he's a sitting duck. The issue is the Web + Strinking Cloud Minor Spell Matrix, followed by a teleport into Sunfire. That combo basically means instant reload. The goal is to take him out before he gets his first teleport.

Also, try to get Spell Thrust (3rd level Abjuration) on a wizard/sorcerer/bard if you have the means to do so. Spell Thrust was frequently ignored in the base game, but it's a massively helpful spell if you're doing SCS.

At this point I can't even imagine playing the series without SCS. So much of what I'm used to is the combination of wizard chess and revealing pot-spamming backstabbers. I suspect that the base game would just be braindead at this point.

>>713038004
can u turn off those fugly beamfaggot bars before posting again? ty

>>713035730
You'd probably need a Wish, not simply Regeneration at this point. The stumps have long since healed over, and the original tissue was badly infected -- the people who amputated the wings probably incinerated them shortly after removal. In PnP you could also possibly use True Resurrection... 'course, you'd have to kill her first. :P

The limited access to spells makes slightly more sense if you play a lower power setting than FR, where acquiring a seventh level cleric spell (and therefore a L14 cleric/druid) can basically be assumed to amount to something like one million dollars a pop, maybe even more. We're used to evaluating gold coins as equivalent to roughly one dollar, but back when I used to play 2e AD&D, the DMs usually reinforced the idea that 1 gold coin was equivalent to $100, and 10 gold was considered to be a luxurious payout for a low level party. To a commoner, they might make 100 gold a year. A single Regeneration spell easily would cost 1,000 gold coins or more, not including base materials. This explains why so many people who are injured or disfigured never even bother to try and acquire divine healing, it's ludicrously expensive to the average peasant.

>>713039405
The vast majority of new players are L1 in Beregost. Newbies don't know how to power level off of basilisks, ankhegs, spiders, etc.

That's actually one of the big complaints i have about SCS, especially if you're playing on Tactical difficulty or higher. Attempting the Nashkel Mines in the base game on Core is definitely doable with a L1 party, but on SCS you probably need to be at least L3 unless you really know what you're doing. Silke absolutely *can* be defeated by a L1 party on SCS Tactical/Hardcore/Insane, but you need to time everything perfectly. People who are trying to experience the game for the first time (or returning players who played the original game casually) aren't going to know how to do this kind of stuff, which is one of the reasons SCS is so notorious for filtering people.

It's very easy to optimize the soul out of the early game with SCS. This is why I always recommend that people who haven't played the vanilla game extensively should always start SCS at Improved, and save the upper difficulties until they've completed the entire game with the mod installed already.

>>713037996
I personally don't think WM is the most fun until you're halfway through the series. NRD simply isn't useful until you've got at least Imp. Chaos Shield, and since you can't stack them like you could in the original series, you're basically just a generalist mage with an additional spell per day. Were it not for their late-game potential, I'd run a Necro every time over a WM.

However, there's a bigger problem with Neera, which is that her quest gear is by far the biggest factor in the EE for helping a WM meet statistical breakpoints for NRD. This is frustrating, because if you *do* decide to play a WM, you NEED to take Neera and finish her quests to expedite your power curve and be capable of casting highly reliably NRDs before late ToB.

It's this weird situation where Beamshit basically made a character that's kinda... okay at a glance, but is either unreliable and lackluster if you don't want a WM, or is absolutely essential if you yourself are playing a WM. It's the kind of blind, dumbass game design choice I'd expect from Beamdog's development team.

>>713012701
>I always found her romance creepy, because it's like dating your mom.
That's why it's hot. It combines to of the most popular porn genres before they were big: NTR and Incest

BG II was truly ahead of its time.

>>713025974
It's really odd that BG2 tried to sisterpill you on Imoen, not only is she not physically related to you she was raised by Winthrop, not Gorion.
She's a childhood friend

>>713024334
Also keep a eye on your casters so you can move them so they don't get hit.

>>713044186
I don’t think it counts as NTR if he’s dead.

>>713044450
She actually is your half-sister though.

>>713036832
Keldorn without mods is OP for one reason alone: his class.

His personal sword doesn't matter.
Carsomyr doesn't matter.
His stats don't matter.
His armor doesn't matter.

It's his class. Inquisitor Dispel Magic is set at casting time 1, bypasses all immunities and is cast at double level. DOUBLE.

When Keldorn hits the 2.85 mil (L17 Paladin) SoA original cap, which he'll obtain somewhere around chapter six, he will be capable of dispelling every single enemy mage in the game (aside from two, Kangaxx and Irenicus) with a 90% success rate. This and this alone is the only reason he's worth anything.

How do you have sex with Aerie anyway? I thought if you fucked her that ended the romance. When do the nightcaps happen that don't torpedo the relationship

>>713009006
So the joke here is you.

>>713044764
How Bhaalspawn was explained to me was Bhaal's DNA doesn't play any part into your genetics, the contribution was his divine essence which makes you special.
Genetically you are the same race as your mother.
I used to think when I was 13 that Bhaal just went on a raping spree and Gorion's love got seduced/raped but it seems Bioware walked back on that.

>>713044954
You have to wait for Haer'Dalis to get his turn first.

>>713012701
Her ugly BG2 portrait is what made it creepy. If she had her BG1 portrait and her BG1 personality it would be weird but more understandable.

>>713044892
Carsomyr also dispels on hit and, if memory serves, I think its supposed to his use dispel despite saying otherwise.

>>713046271
Carsomyr indeed does dispel on hit, casting a single-target Dispel Magic on any hit creature as if cast by a L30 caster.

But Inquisitor Dispel is a radial AoE which dispels at double level, ignoring all resistances/immunities.

Assume Keldorn is L13 when you grab Carsomyr (this is a fair estimate of the level you'll be when you finally defeat the dragon guarding the weapon). Then Keldorn's Dispel Magic ability will act as a L26 AoE Dispel Magic, slightly lower level, but a radial AoE.

By L15, Keldorn will have access to AoE Dispel Magic at the same level as Carsomyr, with a key difference: if an enemy has Protection from Magical Weapons or Absolute Immunity up, Carsomyr (until it's +6) can't hit the enemy, meaning that it can't *dispel* the enemy. The Inquisitor Dispel has no such problem: if the enemy is in the radius, that bitch is getting dispelled.

Most games will end with the party at approx. 6 to 6.5 million experience points. By late ToB, Keldorn will have a Dispel Magic ability multiple times per day which is dispelling as if cast by a L64 caster -- thirty levels higher than anything in the entire series.

Keldorn/Inquisitor Dispel Magic ability is actually so overpowered that SCS provides an option to either nerf it (drops it to 1.5x Paladin level instead of double level) or remove it entirely. If used to its full potential, it will trivialize every single fight in the game against a mage, cleric, thief, or powerful magical creature.

>>713036832
I always found this strange. Viconia was the most OP the way I built her. You can boost her Magic Resistance to 100% and she can dual wield Crom Fayer and the Flail of Ages, offensively, since her AC is good enough without needing a shield.

>>713037990
>best thief
all for a turnip

>>713047261
>>By L15, Keldorn will have access to AoE Dispel Magic at the same level as Carsomyr, with a key difference: if an enemy has Protection from Magical Weapons or Absolute Immunity up, Carsomyr (until it's +6) can't hit the enemy, meaning that it can't *dispel* the enemy. The Inquisitor Dispel has no such problem: if the enemy is in the radius, that bitch is getting dispelled.
If memory serves, as I've not played BG2 since probably 2008, that's only an issue one time and he still has access to his own dispel for it. No idea about SCS, haven't played it and won't play it.

>>713044995
I dont think so, tranny faggot.

>>713026782
Wasn't she Grey De Lisle?

>>713048043
Yes, everyone can tell you don't think, fagtard.

>>713038274
So did they kill her or not?

>>713047731
My point is that anytime you'd want to hit something with Carsomyr to dispel it, you're better off just popping his Dispel ability and immediately dispelling every single enemy in the room. I suppose the only tactical advantage to *not* doing this would be if you CC'd a group of enemies and wanted to peel the buffs off of some while ignoring the others. THEN Carsomyr would be worth using specifically for its precision dispelling.

This is pretty niche though. Most fights in base BG II + ToB optimally are as follows: enemies turn hostile => enemies trigger buffs/have buffs on them => Keldorn Dispels (lol) => enemies are now naked => apply CC => win fight.

In other words, Carsomyr is shitty for dispelling, and the Inquisitor Dispel is far superior to it in almost every circumstance. In fact, Keldorn's base class Dispel Magic ability carries him hard, making his mostly dogshit class, proficiencies, base attributes, and personality arguably worth dragging through a playthrough. It's that good.

>No idea about SCS, haven't played it and won't play it.
If you ever plan on playing through the series again, you should consider it. There are multiple difficulty settings offered by the mod for a reason, and if you don't want to play it on assrape mode, you don't have to. However, if you think the game would be more enjoyable with some fresh paint and a few trickier encounters, it's absolutely worth it. SCS requires players to understand the game at a deeper level than the base game, encouraging that players actually use all of the tools available to them in the base game without demanding excessive optimization at the expense of player choice. Everything is viable, though some choices are certainly made less so. This isn't the case for the other popular difficulty mods circulated throughout the community (Tactics and Improved Anvil).