What did she mean by this?

>>713008892 (OP)
its a logical contradiction. if the anguish is so bad, he should want to die. it is the perspective of a reasoning foid unable to understand the male's more primal driven perspective, understanding neither the idea of suffering nor the human inclination to survive at all costs
still would fuck her though

>>713008892 (OP)
shes retarded and only sees the world in black and white

>>713009336
My cute autistic Yukiko
Doesnt she also laugh at people dying or something, some tarot I heard they added in the arena and dancing games

he killed people for shits and giggles
he did an evil villain laugh right before this little monologue

>>713008892 (OP)
He's based and I would do the same. Fuck these kids and their stupid bear.

You can still want great change without dying to get it

>>713012304
quick run away before she starts showing you chinese factory accident compilations on liveleak

>>713012304
>"Waah waah I'm so sad!" KILL YOURSELF NOW!
Damn. Yukiko's kinda based.

>>713008892 (OP)

>>713008892 (OP)
>Not being up too words that Christ is praying IN Imam el Medi it's backside Thus having no time for you.
Source: That old gore pic of a man being inside a man's back circa 2012
biblyk or fatswordman on YT is the Imam el medi.

>>713008892 (OP)
She's a woman.

>>713008892 (OP)
“Kill yourself you whiny fag.”

>>713012304
What a fucking psycho.

>>713008892 (OP)
She's based and Adachifags have never come up with a good response

>>713009053
If you are suffering so much you wish to die, then die. You are the one who lies to yourself, to keep yourself from living.

>>713008892 (OP)
naoto acts even more retarded
>other people made your life shit
>but stfu and be a good wagie for others
also she acts as if he went to inaba by his own choice

>>713017013
true

>>713017013
People were more than welcoming to him in Inaba and he spat on it because women wouldn't fuck him

>>713012304
>>713012509
Wife material

>>713016442
Maybe he is religious? I honestly haven't killed myself because I'm affraid of going to hell.

>>713012304
>>713008892 (OP)
>>>/wsg/5902565

>>713018302
Adachi didn't reject Dojima because he's an incel. Adachi rejected Dojima because he feels superior to Dojima. He was too arrogant to see the value of connections. It is why he was sent down to Inaba in the first place.

>leftistoids whine about how persona is pic related
>rightoids will whine about how the game doesn't understand and has no sympathy for people rejected by society

based jap culture is just beyond westoid comprehension

>gives up all her own dreams and aspirations to run a shitty hotel

>>713018302
Dojima treated Adachi like shit.

>>713008892 (OP)
Objectively, she was correct

>>713019382
What fucking dreams and aspirations?
>hurr I'm just going to tell all these people I love to go fuck themselves and abandon my home and community because uhhh... teenage rebellion is cool or something
I hate americans so fucking much it's unreal.

>>713019382
Japanese inns are pretty nice and running an hotel is a great job.

>>713008892 (OP)
THE WORLD IS ABOUT TO CHANGE

>>713019238
>thinking that Kanji is gay, not that he has girly hobbies and thus internalised himself as gay
>thinking Yukiko's true issue was that she didn't want to run the inn, not she didn't want to be forced what to do
>thinking Naoto wanted to be a man, not that she wanted to be respected like one
>complaining about banter
>using the Golden end screen
God, twitterfags are the biggest brainlets.

the game makes a lot more sense if you just accept that all adachi wanted was to get away with murder.
he got emotional with the reporter and stumbled into some fucked up shit... and then he started covering his tracks. when cornered, he just whines about his original crime because it's the only thing that's real and makes sense to anybody

>>713020040
Golden ending is great, eat shit nigger.

>he plays the dub

How the fuck are there still Adachi defenders in 2025?

None of his arguments matter because he's just using them to try and justify his stance as a murderer who also wants to usher in the end of the world.

>>713020342
If you were playing on the PS2 or the Vita when they came out, unless you imported you were playing dub.

>>713019382
She didn't have any real dreams though. Her "dream" was to be rescued from her situation. Her whole character arc is about gaining agency. That's WHY her CHOOSING to take over is so important to her SL. She initially felt FORCED into it and thus resented the inn. However, she was always proud to be a part of the inn. It is just she wanted it to be a choice, not an obligation.

>>713020418
>If you were playing on the PS2 or the Vita when they came out, unless you imported you were playing dub.
Thank fuck I got into the franchise when P4G came out on steam. Can't imagine suffering muttscum voices.

>>713020194
Golden end means Marie. That means no Margaret. FUCK Marie. That reddit F'steak meme bitch!

>>713019854
She obviously had some, otherwise she would've just agreed to run the hotel from the start, but in the end she just gives up to satisfy everyones expectations like a good obedient tool, what a great message

>>713020040
Kanji is a bisexual but his sexuality has nothing to do with his Shadow. Shadows hide behind public perception when their true self won't acknowledge them. I.e. shadow Namatame acting like the killer because that's what the IT think of him. But Kanji is bisexual because he expresses interest in men and woman at various points in the story.

>>713020574
>She obviously had some, otherwise she would've just agreed
Dumb speedreader/audio skipper

I don't even know how they supposedly debunk his arguments. They basically just said, "well, fuck you loser!," to him.

>>713019238
>friend
Nobody likes Yosuke

>>713020710
Because his arguments make no sense, as best girl eloquently points out in OPs pic

>>713020710
his arguments are a dead-end, there's no positive actions you could take to address them. Even if he's right, it's useless

>>713018419
I blew my chance of slamming a whore like this when I worked at starbucks because she started talking about the vax and a bunch of tranny virtue signaling unprompted and I couldn't resist pushing her buttons.

>>713020607
I wouldn't say Kanji shown any real interest in men besides Naoto (when he thought she was a boy). Kanji's whole thing was being accepted, hobby and all. His shadow isn't a representation of what society thinks of him, rather it is more his insecurities about what society thinks about the type of people who have his hobbies. He is scared of being seen as a pansy, thus he became a "manly" thug. His shadow is just an extreme exaggeration of that.

>>713008892 (OP)
I liked Yukiko the most because she has the same black hair as my mom

>>713020710
His argument is:
>society is bad because I tried hard alone and suffered
Their response is:
>of course you suffered, you didn't try to connect to anyone.

>>713021401
Adachi never tried hard at anything. He's mediocre as shit and kind of a lazy ass, and he says so himself.

I want to beat this game someday but I always put it down within 4 hours

>>713020574
She obviously had *NONE
Fixed it for you.
Are you just retarded? Any moment she discusses doing shit outside of Inaba she clearly has no idea what the fuck she is going to do. She has not thought it out at all.

>>713018302
>because women wouldn't fuck him
Reasonable of him. Women OWE men sex.

Adachi is like the Unibomber, let me explain.
When you read the Unibombers manifesto, almost everyone agrees he was right. But his actions of killing innocent people to prove a point was wrong.
Adachi is the same.
His trying to prove a point that society is shit and its down to just luck or being in the know, rather than skill or dedication.
His personal failures are not his own, but because of other people.
Adachi was 1000% correct, but he then started just killing innocent women. This is where he went too far.

>>713021542
I thought he tried hard at school/college but ended up with mediocre grades and a mediocre job which caused him to give up and become lazy.

>>713021357
Sex with anon's mom

>>713021605
Persona is mid. 4 is the worst one too, so you're not missing much.

>>713021730
This. In a sense she is the most realistic teenage character in the game because "FUCK my parents YOU CAN'T TELL ME WHAT TO DO, MOM! I am going to go out and do MY THING which is idk lol" is the character arc of pretty much every teenager ever.

>>713022640
Yeah its perfectly fitting. Of course she would not know what she wants to do. If she actually left she would be sucking dicks on the street within the week. The only possible way that does not happen is if she is 'somewhat' realistic and runs away to a relatives or something and mooches off of them. Maybe she would become self-aware that shes being retarded.

>>713020710
What else can you do after hearing Adachi's rant but mock him? His issues are so mundane, minuscule, and outright self inflicted that it would probably feel almost like an insult to a local to find out that HE was the one being the murders. He's effectively complaining that society is broken and unfair because he wasn't born talented enough that initial effort would immediately translate into success, because he doesn't have enough pull to avoid the consequences of his own actions, and because everyone isn't tripping over themselves to cater to his ego.

Keep in mind during his entire tantrum he never once acknowledged over even alluded to fault of any kind on his part whatsoever. "Do a flip" or "Get a therapist" is the only thing he's owed.

>>713021934
Adachi didn't kill anyone though. His intent was to kill them but technically he didn't do it

"He threw them in the Lion's den, but it's the lions that killed them!"
If you hurled someone into a place where their only outcome is death, then you killed them.

>>713025336
Okay but what are the charges?

>>713018302
>>713019109
why the fuck would you want to hangout with your boss after work? thats already weird, but dojima keeps treating him like shit during work aswell
also
>january
yeah hes sitting in jail, makes sense that he doesnt want to see him

>>713008892 (OP)
People who sympathize with Adachi tend to ignore the context of this scene. Adachi's a murderer. Yukiko's basically saying "If you hate being alive so much, maybe you should have killed yourself before killing other people." She probably wouldn't have said this if he wasn't already responsible for two other murders.

At least if Adachi had killed himself, it would have only been one death instead of two.

>>713025632
>why the fuck would you want to hangout with your boss after work?
This is unironically what japs do. You spend 5 hours working, then another 5-8 hours pretending to work, then you have to go out and get food/drinks with everyone otherwise you're a social pariah and the ladder you weren't going to climb anyways becomes closed off.
They are the perfect effeminate slaves.

>>713020710
they debunked him by showing that talent doesnt matter if you got power of friendship, aka nepotism

>>713012304
>>713017013
Man persona 4 remake will be changed the story 100% isnt it

>>713026186
it is no wonder the japs became the masters of escapism through their culture

>>713025185
that a shit excuse, might aswell push someone of a building and say gravity killed him. even baseddachi said "ill kill you like i did the others" or something along the lines during the bossfight, so even he knows

>>713020568
you unlocked my memories of hiimdaisy, that shit got me into persona, I know I'm the filthiest territary

>>713021605
try puting subway surfers on and see if that helps.
jokes aside persona 4 starts slow so it pretty much starts around the time you always put it down. should be better after that if you like it

>>713026238
It's called forging connections. You'll often find that in the real world, talent is only secondary. The ACTUAL thing that'll get you ahead is knowing the right people. There are plenty of incompetent nonces who managed to coast through life purely because they were friends with someone who could give them a leg up.

>>713026426
Indeed. It makes shit like Evangelion even funnier when the escapism=bad motif was a ronrey animator telling office drones to go back to the cagie.

>>713026238
Power of divine intervention*, aka just born gifted. The crew literally proved him right.
>>713021934
Unabomber was correct in his insights and in his actions. Any system that is dysfunctional must be put to an end, otherwise it continues to perpetuate itself and deteriorate. Much like a machine aboard a vessel, you either repair or, or if there's no means of repairing it you scrap it. The last, most retarded thing you could do is just let it keep running and see what happens (large scale catastrophe with irreversible consequences).

Same with his conclusions of what to do with society. If it's broken and on a downward spiral towards doom, you must do something to fix it. If there is no means of fixing it, it must be destroyed. Letting it keep getting more severe, more cancerous in hopes of "if I buy time maybe a magic solution will fall out of the sky" is the most horrible fate you can subject humanity to.

>>713026673
i hate that so much, i feel the same as adachi if you replaced talent with connections. feels like it doesnt matter what i do in life if i dont kiss the right asses. also i hate being around other people so i guess the world just isnt for me

>>713025550
Manslaughter, second degree in the case of Mayumi Yameno and 1st degree in the case of Saki Konishi.

>>713026186
Hell on Earth.

>>713026186
no wonder adachi was mad then, coworkers are scum of the earth

>>713026885
Humans are social creatures, so if you're unable to cooperate with others, then you're never gonna get ahead. It's unfortunate for introverts, but it's really hard to survive in this world completely on your own.

>>713026238

>>713027029
I can't imagine a worse scenario to be stuck in. I'm a wagie doing 30-40 and it drives me insane and has me wishing there was an 8th floor to chuck myself off of sometimes. I honestly hate that they have to endure the level of bs they do, nobody deserves that fate.

>>713019649
Because adachi acted like a petulant child. Slacking off and not caring about anything he's doing, yet thinking he's superior all the while. Probably hits a bit too close to home for you eh?

>>713019109
Dojima was an asshole to adachi

>>713019238
>don't be your true self be a gay faggot tranny instead and fit in with us!

>>713027143
grim

>>713019649
>>713027449
No. He was tough but fair, that is what he is supposed to do as his superior, lead by example. Didnt help that Adachi was acting like a complete fucking idiot half the time

>>713027331
for me, its her pantyhose

>>713021934
>society is down to luck and skill/dedication don't matter

The true words of a complete loser.

>>713027143
>hard to survive in this world
if anything thriving in this world is hard alone. surviving is pretty easy, living of gibs or getting a dead end job enough to cover expenses and then rotting on the computer the rest of the day

>>713008892 (OP)
Reminder that she's right

>>713021934
Do not use best girl reaction images for such retarded posts ever again.

How did Adachi even get his powers exactly?

>>713027989
my king would never say that, they had to brainwash his shadow in jail or something

>>713020040
You don't need to repeat this in every single fucking thread about this dogshit game.

>>713026383
>implying that they put effort into it and not just paste everything into unreal 5 and fuck of to another p5 spin off

>>713027143
what even do then? just live life against your personality till all the social fuckery burns you out?

>>713028130
Same way Yu did, Izanami

>>713028353
Just accept that your will never thrive all you can do is merely survive which is easy enough to do as an introvert of your skilled

>>713008892 (OP)
It means nihilists who are alive have no principles or conviction

>>713026383
Not like you'd notice, ESL

>>713028257
They usually do an effort for this kind of shit

>>713008892 (OP)
Adachi was right.

>>713008892 (OP)
She's telling him to kill himself

>>713027143
You're saying this like normalfags with their """friends""" are better off but we all know how hollow they truly are

>>713026083
Very immature of her, but then again nu persona games have garbage characters with no morals or conviction, they just do le right thing.

>two years older than Adachi now

>>713026736
>Power of divine intervention*, aka just born gifted. The crew literally proved him right.
Adachi has the same power from the same source though

>>713020710
Adachi's problem is simple - not everyone is destined to be a winner. And that's a (regrettable) fact of life - someone has to suffer for someone else to be happy, it's not possible to build a human society without suffering. And once he understood his position, all he could do is throw a tantrum. "I suffered, why shouldn't they?". The obvious flaw is how destructive this idea is - you piss in a person's cornflakes, they will shit in yours, continue ad infinitum until there are no cornflakes left.
The real answer here is to learn from your suffering, and help others with your knowledge, so they would raise you up in return. That's the golden rule of morality, the key to human civilization.
>>713032332
>If there is no means of fixing it, it must be destroyed
There's one massive flaw here - how can you tell that the system is past the point of no return? Is your judgement objectively true, or are you just too narrow-minded to see a solution? The latter is infinitely more likely. Whenever a catastrophe happens, we always look back and see a dozen ways it could've been prevented, and none of them are ever "just burn it down lmao".

>>713033470
Meant for >>713026736

>>713033470
Adachi's problem was that he fucked up at his other job, won't owe up to it, and instead of seeing this as an opportunity for a new life he chooses to be incredibly resentful and act like he's above these people who live in the boonies that only want the best for him.
Adachi's suffering was self-inflicted given how he wound up in Inaba in the first place.

If you thought it was about how not everyone is a winner, you're taking the lying murderer's statements at face value. Even ignoring all of that a goddess herself handed him a golden ticket, and his response was to abuse his power and manipulate a vulnerable person.

>>713033907
I don't mind taking the statements at face value, because that doesn't make him any more correct. And yes, at the end of the day, he was just one angry faggot lashing out at others for not sucking his dick.

>>713034048
The townsfolk still really liked him, it's just Yameno and Saki who didn't suck his dick when Adachi decided to be a creep. He's lashing out because his life wasn't his ideal and instead of doing something about it he chooses to be resentful and kill people.

You shouldn't take anything Adachi says there at face value.

>>713033470
Knowing that you should have done preventive maintenance isn't going to change the fact that your machine is too fucked for preventive maintenance to do anything at this point.

but improving on yourself is really hard

>>713009336
No, she's right. Adachi is a villain specifically because he can't commit to either killing himself or working to better himself. He's clearly far above average intelligence so his whining about "talent" doesn't apply to him. Point in fact, except Rise, the majority of the P4 party are generally dully, mediocre people who end up saving the world due to deciding to do the write thing, demolishing his thesis.

>>713034745
Again, this statement implies a point at which preventive maintenance doesn't work, but when does that happen? Does it ever happen? We can't know that. So going scorched earth is not ever an option.

>>713033470
>>Adachi's problem is simple - not everyone is destined to be a winner.
Adachi WAS A WINNER though, he was randomly chosen by the Goddess of Japan and got sweet superpowers for no reason.

>>713035087
It's not about the powers you get, it's about what you do with them. Many people live their lives and suffer without realizing how fortunate they are compared to others, and refuse to take advantage of the opportunities they have. Adachi got the powers, and did the most retarded thing possible with them.

>>713034950
>the majority of the P4 party are generally dully, mediocre people
That's completely false. They're not glamourous people, but they're definitely not mediocre. They're all exceptionally gifted in terms of their upbringing or their historic status. Chie's the odd duck, but she's oddly popular among the students and is incredibly sociable.

>>713033470
That's stupid. You yourself said it at the beginning, not everyone can be a winner. Why should he bother with that if he's destined to be a loser? You're damned if you do, and damned if you don't.
There's no point, if society fails you, then you might as well fail society back. You're outside of it at that point, it's you against the world. And you might as well take whatever small wins you can get where you can, which is what he did.

>>713035754
But doing so would only make society worse
no, not just society, it would also ruin your own self, you would betray yourself out of sadness and anger, only making you a much worse person

>>713036082
>But doing so would only make society worse
But why would you care if society doesn't work to benefit you?

>>713036156
I understand what you want to say, but shouldn't you strive to do good things to then make a better society?
Rage and anger can blind you, but it will never lead to something good, even if you lie to yourself about this, you will only hurt people and who you used to be.

>>713036286
>to then make a better society?
Again, what's the point if you're not the benefactor of it? Why would I care about "goodness" for others if I'm destined to "merely survive"? Things like love, respect or empathy cannot exist if they are not mutual.

>>713036082
>But doing so would only make society worse
So what?

>only making you a much worse person
Even if this is true... So what? This doesn't actually mean anything .

>>713036397
Maybe you won't benefit much from it, but other people like you in the past will.
Even if you are a pretty sad person, you can work on so that no one else ends up like you

>>713036517
>but other people
You're still not giving any substantive argument as to why I should give a shit.

>>713035754
>if society fails you, then you might as well fail society back
If you spit at society, society will wipe it off. If society spits at you, you will drown.
Trying to go against the world is a fool's errand; you will only bring yourself more misery in the end.

>>713036757
Well he would have gotten away with it if it weren't for those meddling kids
Plenty of people do get away with it though, so...

>>713027757
being skilled is a matter of fortune. someone can practice and set their mind at something for however long and still be a failure.

>>713008892 (OP)
>be a conformist
What a beautifully japanese message

>>713037021
Bad people get away with bad things, yes. But first of all, it's a gamble. You might get away, or you might not. And people who get away with stuff often live in perpetual fear of getting caught anyway, sleeping with one eye open until you kick the bucket hardly seems like a fulfilling existence compared to a maybe more humble but honest life. And that's the ultimate conclusion of Persona 4 - bring comfort to others, and they will bring comfort to you, be you a loser like Yosuke or a genius like Naoto. That is the recipe for happiness, not the perpetual seething in the shadows.

>>713037575
idk, seeing the lot of others improve through your efforts while you stagnate in mediocrity doesn't seem fulfilling at all. Finding "comfort" in seeing others being happy while you're left in the dust is an utterly fucked state of mind.

>>713028150
That was the first time I said those things. Guess twitter/secondary brainrot is so potent it makes the regular anon repeat the words of other anons out of pure frustration.

>>713038361
Seems like your problem lies more in an inability to ask for help from others.

>>713038493
It's the main cause for many people: Isolation mixed with sad thoughts can fuck someone up hard, no matter if it's given by others or self-given. And when these people are too deep, they don't ask for help even if they clearly need some. which only push them deeper in the hole they got themselves in

>>713039213
Often, it's because experience has taught them that people won't help them if they ask for it. Maybe they had particularly strict parents, or maybe that was just the environment they were in. If the response you get to asking for help is "Figure it out yourself, I won't help you," or "You can't expect people to help you when you grow older, you have to learn to figure everything out on your own", it'll cause you to give up on asking.

>>713008892 (OP)
She means she wants it in the poopshoot.

>>713039213
>>713039784
Of course, the other part of it is ego. Some people really can't stand the idea of being in someone's debt.

le edgy "nothing matters lmao" fags are hypocrites because they would be already dead if were serious about it.

This meme cartoon summarize it
https://youtu.be/9ZjLxk0djyE

My biggest problem with Persona 4 is the teens are literally incapable of articulating the real issue with any of the antagonists proposed issues. They basically just go "shut up friendless loser" instead of dismantling the idea itself. They lose intellectually and then just use force to win.

Also Marie is forced as fuck and provides literally nothing. You don't get anything permanent from her dungeon, either. Her entire existence is to lampshade the true culprit for the casual fags who can't pay attention.

>>713039932
Literally me
It's a lot of pressure to be in debt

>>713019238
>based jap culture is just beyond westoid comprehension
The west is deadlocked in a white vs black psychology and default to calling Metaphor woke because they can't understand it. lol

>>713039932
Ego is a big thing too, wether it is not wanting to be in debt, not wanting to involve others, wanting to be strong enough... It's all very stupid things, but also things can lead people to spiraling.
The world would be better if people were able to communicate better, but I feels like it's only getting worse. We live in a connected world of very isolated people.

>>713019238
Is more like
>teenagers do and think retarded shit, it's ok but grow up when you are ready so you don't become a loser stuck in adolescence.

>>713020710
One does not give credance to the words of the spirit of non-existance, only the sword (pic unrelated).

>>713021934
>almost everyone agrees he was right
[citation needed]

>still fucking "Adachi did nothing wrong" threads in 2025

I have hoped it was a bit all these years, but I genuinely think people don't understand how fucking dumb he was.

>boo hoo society is so mean and hard
>ignore my nice job as a detective that I slack off and actively try to avoid doing work
>ignore that my superior has tried to be my friend and had me over for dinners
>ignore that there's a nice woman in my building that is trying to be nice to me, but I reject her kindness because I think she must be deluded or something despite the facts (her actual son is nothing like him and she's just being nice)
>ignore that I constantly cut corners in everything I do (advising Nanako to not even read the book for her report, just read the back and front inserts and then babble fluff for the word count, like he always did)
>ignore that I propositioned two women for sex, by calling them sluts and insisting they'd go crazy for my dick, the first time I ever met them and under the guise of a police interrogation related to stressful shit in their lives
>ignore that I actively shirked people in my life trying to be friends with me because I wanted to really focus on my studies and work (that I don't actually work that hard on)

The cherry on top is that later games, the fighting game specifically, show that he realizes he was wrong. He was just a dude who didn't really try any time there was anything uncomfortable in his life, never tried to make any friends, and then got pissy when women wouldn't sleep with him the literal first time he talked to them.

Adachi was right

>>713019238
>Kanji isn't gay
>Naoto isn't trans
Retard didn't play the game

>>713019649
fucking this

>>713041342
okay okay Adachi did stuff wrong sure, but his conclusions are right in the end anyway

>>713041581
if you're a faggot crybaby, sure

>>713008892 (OP)
This just proves Yukiko should be raped and then tortured to death slowly.

>>713020710
It's literally the same as the anti incel retoric you see nowadays
>I can't get laid, I'm depressed because of it
>Your downer attitude is why you can't get laid actually!

>>713041581
>guy who didn't work hard or wasn't born super talented at anything still has a pretty good life despite him actively trying to sabotage it at every turn
>calls society shit despite doing his best to not engage with it and actively spurn anyone that reaches out to him

In what way is he right?

>>713041342
It's not wrong to prefer isolation, to tread the path of a hermit.
However that is incompatible with society. We've built a world where you get comfortable being squashed around people 24/7 or you rot and die.

>>713017013
>other people made your life shit
wasn't adachi moved to inaba because of his own fuck ups?

>>713041953
A hermit wouldn't be upset that people don't want to be his friend or that they can't have a romantic partner.
A hermit wouldn't use an ambiguous level of "success" to be happy.

What even is Adachi's form of success? Is it the head of police with a supermodel wife? Being upset about not getting a promotion one time, fucking up and getting sent to the boonies, and women not wanting to sleep with him when he calls them a slut during a police interrogation are the only times we get a glimpse at something he may want out of life.

>>713041989
He was transfered because he wouldn't obey his superiors and kept doing whatever the fuck he wanted or thought was best.

>>713041713
Wrong Cutieko doesn't know any better, she didn't do anything wrong. This line isnt even bad, my dear Yukiko just says she doesn't understand and it doesn't make sense to her, it's okay high level topics like this are too confusing for her. She doesn't need to think however .

>>713041953
It's not wrong to tread the path of the hermit
It's wrong to be actively detrimental to society like Adachi was.

>>713042401
oh so he's an arrogant retard who thought going against seniority in Japanese society was a good idea.

>>713042401
Source?

>>713041713
BASED

>>713042494
He believes himself to be better than the rest and thinks being relegated to do fuck all in a small Japanese town is beneath him.

>>713042596
Play the game.

>>713042405
Disgusting sweaty rape followed by murder with Cutieko!

>>713042667
>He believes himself to be better than the rest
thank you Merriam Webster, that is what arrogant means.

>>713042783
You're welcome.

>>713020710

He's a self absorbed child, he deserved to be mocked. Seeing this obnoxious pissbaby have a meltdown at how debunked he got by a bunch of teenagers with common sense was hilarious.

>>713041342
People who think like Adachi will always exists, therefore these threads will always exist.

>>713042667
>Play the game.
I did, unless it's some Golden thing, he doesn't give any detail on what he did to get sent to Inaba. All he says is that it was an accident that got blown out of proportion or something along those lines. He doesn't seem to be the kind of high minded go getter type to get in trouble because of trying to do things a different way though.

Given what he said I imagine he probably did something like accidentally fire a round in a mall while he was twirling his gun trying to show it off, or something dumb like that.

Adachi just needed a friend his age who could tard wrangle his misanthropic tendencies

>>713043430
him being incapable of making friends is like the entire problem

i love you Tyrone-kun

>>713043183
Fact of the matter, it's never stated. However, abuse of authority is heavily implied.

>Given what he said
He clearly cannot be trusted, dude. People don't get sent to a different part of the country for small mistakes.

>>713043430
I've known people like Adachi. If they ever had friends, they run out of those really fucking fast with how they act (and they don't care enough about them to intervene).

>>713020931
You just saved yourself some grief in the long run.

>>713043430
He needed a gf who loved him and thought they could fix him
Me too

>>713026584
I got into persona because of P4AU it could've been worse

>>713043927
Women don't fix you. They don't fill the hole in your heart. They're not "your other half" no matter what hollywood propaganda has told you in order to force you to have babies.
You need to work on yourself first. Become whole, get passionate about something. Women are not looking for someone who depends on them.

>>713044054
so what's the point of women? sex?

>>713044054
They provide confidence, connection, intimacy, and sexual fulfillment. What more do you need? Nothing
Having a gf means you are accepted by society, Adachi wouldn't be lashing out like that if he had one. Well to be fair, I guess you could if you felt your gf was also on the margins outside of society, but ideally we're talking about a normal gf that would ground him, not some psycho gf that would egg him on.

>Women are not looking for someone who depends on them.
And yet they end up with men like that all the time. If you're attractive enough.
Ah, bit of a relevant example that sprang to mind, Hikari Utada's Italian bartender that she married and then was unemployed living off her money most of their marriage, he wasn't even still a bartender by the time they got married.

The "you need to be perfect before you get a gf" is just bullshit by to shift the blame of the actual issue of why you don't have a gf, it has nothing to do with how fucking whole you are, that's just a shitty and terrible lie. There are plenty of men who have drug issues, crime issues, whatever else and they have gfs. Moreover many of these men would also say that their parents helped them in struggles.
The reality is that most people in relationships are not whole, the common sense behind this retarded farce pushed, is that if you're so damn perfectly whole and fiercely independent then why the fuck would you ever bother to get with someone else and take that risk of vulnerability?

>>713045493
>They provide confidence,
No, you need confidence to begin with. If your confidence crumbles because you don't have a woman, you're a pathetic "man".
>connection,
you don't need a woman for connection.

These things should be intrinsic to you. Stop looking for a woman to make yourself happy. Become happy on your own. Being desperate never helped anyone.

>>713041714
Well yeah, no one wants to be around a downer.

>>713044054
>Women don't fix you.
She can be a catalyst for you to better yourself.

>They don't fill the hole in your heart.
She can't fill the place that belongs to your relashionship with the eternal, but she can be one of, if not the most important piece to see your mission fulfilled.

They're not "your other half" no matter what hollywood propaganda has told you in order to force you to have babies.
One flesh. It's not good for man to be alone.

>You need to work on yourself first.
This work never finished. If you're lucky, you'll be working on yourself for the rest of your life. Being with her and having a family is the fastest way for your working on yourself to be effective and ordered to your nature.

>Become whole, get passionate about something.
These are two statements that are irrelevant ot each other. If you ask me, to become whole you'd need to fullfil your purpose on this world, both as the flesh you were born in, but also as the higher being you are called to act as.
Passion is besides the point, it's of little use when the world is against you. Entertaining your passions is a sure fire way of walking askew.

>Women are not looking for someone who depends on them.
This is true. Women seek someone resolute, a person who is capable of fighting but also protecting. If you want a good woman, that is, a good mother, it's best to be a good man, that is, a good father (even if you don't plan to on having children).

>>713018437
in the bible you dont go to heaven or hell upon death that is a catholic/jesuit lie they spread to scare people into submission. There is even a book that explains literally what happens right after you die and they tore out the chapter in the manuscript where it begins to explain it. Look up 2 Esdras chapter 7 in the NRSV bible.

>>713040004
Since when nothing in life matters = suicide ?

>>713046013
I didn't say you need one for connection but they do provide it, and a very potent form of it too, by virtue of their role. Same goes for confidence. I'm not talking about something stupid like confidence in math skills, I'm talking about your confidence in your connection to society, and short of actually being President or Mayor or something that is yes more *potentially* more potent but also mostly unachievable, a partner is the most realistic measure by which to base your confidence in relation to your acceptance by society, by virtue of being your most revealing connection to someone else in society.

>>713046601
Nobody tore anything out. 2 Esdras is an Apocryphal book. Supposedly part of the Old Testament, yet we have more evidence to suggest it's a forgery made AFTER Jesus' time. It's not even present in the Talmud. Hell, not even Protestants consider it scripture, so I have no idea where you got any of this.

>that is a catholic/jesuit lie they spread to scare people into submission
I would love to see you defend this point. Is something like this to be found in the Catechism of the Catholic Church for example? Perhaps you'd be inclined to quote a Jesuit since we both know those had a lot of things to say, some of them even heresies?

>>713012304
Do you think she would find the bad end of the inflation fetish hillarious?

>>713008892 (OP)
>>713012304
She really is the best girl.

>Persona 4
>"Society isn't unfair, you just refuse to adapt"
>Persona 5
"I can't adapt because society is unfair"

>>713048545
P5 is about corruption though.
P4 is about the metaphysics of friendship and forging bonds with other people.

>>713016442
The lies we feed to ourselves is the fire in our belly. Man is nothing without lies.

>>713046601
Catholics say you go to purgatory though

>>713048652
Nah, Atlus didn't have the balls back then to openly criticize Japanese society, it's why it pushes so hard that Adachi was in the wrong for complaining about it. I guarantee the remake will throw in some bit relating to it, Persona 3's remake already added some of Persona 4's themes to new scenes.

>>713035325
>i watch kung fu
>i simp girl
>i sew cloth
>i got pimped
>i am bootleg doraemon

>>713048851
You only go through Purgatory if you're going to Heaven though. Purgatory is a cleansing state that preceeds joining God.

>>713048941
Adachi wasn't complaining about "society" not even society's corruption. He was always upset that reality didn't conform to his idiotic delusions of grandeur. In this bitch of a life nobody is owed anything.
I didn't play P3R and I don't plan to, so I'll take your word for it.

>>713018437
same man
heavily considering it anyway tonight though

She meant that shes a slut.

>>713049364
>In this bitch of a life nobody is owed anything.
Well then he's not wrong in throwing people in the tv

>>713026885
Yep
That sucks

>>713008892 (OP)
is this the 4chan equivalent of twittertroons seething about naoto saying "i will never be a man"

a well adjusted teenager tearing down your fantasy about being a "tortured soul" who is fighting some uphill battle against a society that you think wronged you

what is it about this game that makes fags take random quotes from the game out of context to get mad about? just makes every permanently online social media site seethe without discrimination. kind of BASED..

>>713049596
Are you stupid?

>>713048691
shut up, dracula

>>713019238
i like how this logic basically makes rise's character:
>in reality i really wanted to be a sexually exploited teenage idol
they refuse to bring up shadow rise in any of their points because of this

He's weak. What's to understand.

It was fun while it lasted but now trannylovers have hijacked the thraed

>>713050327
thanks for announcing your arrival.

>>713049773
>what is it about this game that makes fags take random quotes from the game out of context to get mad about?
The threads would die instantly otherwise.
I haven't seen a single Persona 4 thread the last year or so that didn't open with the Adachi quote, Naoto quote, or literally anything related to Mitsuo. I thought the remake announcement would change things, but it just seemed to be the exact same shit just with "The remake is so gonna censor this bros"

[canned laughter]

>>713020710
because his problems weren't even that bad. he wasn't even hated or anything.

he was supremely lazy and self-absorbed. he didn't see the value in living normal life, he wanted to be worshipped. he basically killed people because of boredom. feel free to shy away from society if you think you're never going to "win," just don't make it other people's problem. simple as

>>713008892 (OP)
She's a normie, she can't understand depression or mental illness

>>713020710
he has ten billions things to do in Inaba and he chose to throw two whores in a TV. Why wouldn't I find it both silly and despicable?

>>713051914
but he is...kind of unsatisfied with is life and hates women (despite not even being that unsuccessful with them). you can't relate to that and love him?

>>713052232
I don't mind living like a complete loser as long as i can afford food.
His half glass empty mindset is too destructive to be saved.

>>713026238
But the P4 cast were all talented AND had nepotism. They really are the Scooby Gang.

>>713041953
He didn't want the path of hermit. Adachi wanted admiration but literally has nothing for people to admire about him. He doesn't open himself to other who tried to get close to him isn't because he want to be alone, it's because he looks down on them.

>>713022083
No, if I remember correctly, he did everything correctly, had top marks, then fucked up once and got tossed down to Inaba, and the sudden upheaval was enough to sour him on everything

>>713028146
He's repeating what the Investigation Team said to him
Calling him a child is what made him go beserk before their fight with him

>>713043575
Its Jamal-kun

>>713053086
That is what he said but that doesn't mean it true. It could be some major mistake but he downplayed at it wasn't a big deal. Remember this is the guy who think killing a few people aren't a big deal

>>713053503
I think you're looking at this from a very western mindset
Japs overexplain everything because they think its insulting to just assume you know what they're talking about, so unless they explicitly state something, we can only go off of what they've actually presented

If Adachi said it was a small mistake, it probably was, which is why he's so fucking bitter about his entire life getting uprooted and relocated

>>713008892 (OP)
These games have terrible writing. None of the characters or villains have any depth. Even then they will preach their issues but yet they are the complete opposite of what they are

>>713008892 (OP)
Pathetic. This makes my skin crawl. All this lipservice and ego-stroking is the kind of dependency that stops you from acting on your own.

>>713012304
It's been over a decade since I played 4 and I can honestly say I don't remember this

People literally can't afford to have sex anymore

Capitalism has failed

>>713053986
Dagda was based. Fuck all this kiddie friend shit.

>>713051914
>he has ten billions things to do in Inaba
There's nothing worthwhile to do in Inaba

>>713052232
What success did he have with women

>>713054235
For me, it's that part where YHVH recites bible quotes at you and you point out the contradictions in them like some sacrilegious Phoenix Wright.

Bondsfags will never experience such kino.

I cannot take Adachi seriously when he says the gang has it too easy when he LITERALLY LIVES OFF THE TAXPAYER'S DIME

>>713054441
Bonds was definitely where it all started to go wrong for SMT.

>>713053838
>depth
that's stupid. irl villains are comically evil as well.

what could the do in the remake to make you interested in it? I feel like golden is already feature complete, you could make the dungeons custom p5 style but otherwise I can't think of what else they would do

>>713054351
>What success did he have with women
Maybe calling people you just meet bitch and whore isn't a smart thing?

>>713054462
working a job that's basically nothing until he creates the crime in the town

>>713054351
>There's nothing worthwhile to do in Inaba
Yet he came out with the idea of throwing women into a TV anyhow.
He wasn't thinking hard enough.

>>713055084
Adding the good slice of life/comedy sections from the anime to the remake.

>>713018302
Adachi's S.Link in Golden is a perfect microcosm of his mentality. Dudes a narcissist who will do any kind of mental gymnastics to make himself the victim. Just an old women being friendly to him at the mall and he someone finds a way to spin it as if he's taking some great burden accepting her kindness.

Why didn't Adachi just capitalize his ability to throw things into TV by becoming the CEO of garbage disposal?
Is he stupid?

>>713020710
His rant had literally nothing to do with his murders.

>>713055084
honestly I'd like for them to tone down some of the Golden additions to combat. The team up stuff is cool on paper, but is generally way too strong and proc'd too often for me. Same with the extra stuff Rise gets in golden. but knowing fatlus they'll give everyone supers and team up attacks so you don't need to actually build a party comp around them

>>713055158
>Maybe calling people you just meet bitch and whore isn't a smart thing?
Doesn't answer the question but anyway... it is if you're an attractive chad. If you're not, it doesn't really matter what you do anyway.
At least he gave it a shot.

>>713055451
unironically yes. he could of monetized his literal god given ability to live the life of his dreams but he is genuinely stupid

>>713027757
Being connected to the right people will take you much farther than just hard work. Look at how many college grads that would be lucky to have a company paying minimum wage to hire them.

>>713055451
He was disposing of garbage, that's why those damn kids stopped him.

>>713017013
She’s right.
Doesn’t matter the situation- you get out what you put in. If you choose to give up, you shouldn’t be surprised when things don’t get better.

>>713055675
based

>>713008892 (OP)
Whiny bitch is moaning about how muh society is responsible for his deeds and he's feeling sooo paaainful emotionally so it's all justified on his part. Meanwhile he just indulged in a petty powertrip the whole time. He's a serial killer by the way.
He's retarded.
His motive is retarded.
He however is a realistic whiny bitch.
Also a realistic serial killer. They are powertripping whiny attention whores in general.

>>713055727
>you get out what you put in.
lol no

>/v/ UNIRONICALLY defending larry
never thought I'd see the day...

>>713055084
I don't think anything can do that.
I blindly swallow Atlus slop but even I think I'll probably skip this one no matter what they add. P4 really didn't need a remake. Unironically the biggest incentive for me to play it is the morbid curiosity of how censored it will be.

>Scooby doo and the gang 4

Adachi demonstrate one of the common trait of sociopath, the lack of ability to considering consequence. Like what the fuck he think would happen to him, a disgrace police, to use his police status to has a private conversation with a celebrity, call her a whore because she didn't want to talk to him about her personal life. He got lucky because he has superpower back then

>>713025550
I am a lawyer and it’s well known in my field that Jigsaw would be un-convictable

>>713055898
This board takes the contrarian option whenever possible. It just means that the world and people in general are so fucked that the majority of them are starting to see Adachi's point.

>>713048652
P5 is about how the world starts and ends with how everyone perceives it and that's why you should always show who you really are, hence the "take off your mask" theme. P4 is about the obfuscation of truth and that you should always seek it out no matter how painful it is.

The magic "tickets" to the good life are money and being born in the right time and place.

>>713056109
What point? Like he blames everything but from what we saw, everything were is faults to begin with. The world didn't abandoned him, he just on his high horse and refused to mingle with people

>>713056058
If that's what makes you a sociopath then the woman is also a sociopath for not considering what would happen when you act like a total BITCH to a man alone in a room when he has a gun or might have the power to throw you into the TV.

>>713026930
P4 Arena straight up shown that the legal system is incapable of convicting him due to supernature element of the murder.

>>713056108
Doesn't he kidnap people

>>713056163
>hence the "take off your mask" theme
This just makes me realize the way the P4 cast summon their Persona is so painfully generic and has nothing to do with the theme. They should have worked the glasses into it somehow.

>>713008892 (OP)
>>713012304
>just fucking kill yourself loser
>hey, want to see this liveleak compilation
BEST
GIRL

>>713055882
You’re just coping because you’re too scared to actually try living the life you want. You avoid failure by thinking you could succeed if you tried, but you just didn’t want to or some bullshit like that.
Some of the happiest people in the world are in terrible situations, but make the most of life by choosing to be joyful and giving. In the same way, many of the wealthiest people in the world are miserable because they don’t put in effort to pursue the life they really want to live.
Our circumstances are our circumstances, but they don’t rob us of choices- we can only do that to ourselves

>>713056369
They rip the mask of their face in pure pain and agony and get covered in blood to show the truth. How is that generic? In persona 3 they shoot themselves in the head showing acceptance of death. P4 has the weakest pussy summoning out of them all.

>>713056481
I dunno I do think circumstance can very much rob people of choice. it really depends on the severity of the circumstance

>>713056320
No, he just transports them. All the people that say jigsaw “kidnapped” them were under the influence and therefor not credible witnesses

>>713056516
I agreed with you, reread my post.

>>713056109
>thinks Larry is Adachi
Please find a dark room and kill yourself.

>>713056607
I never said that.
You lack reading comprehension.

>no one's posted it yet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pS5soRsrKQ

>>713056274
But they did, solely because he confessed.
That's the only thing that matters to Japanese law.

>>713056553
Of course you can’t just like choose to run or something if you have no legs, but choosing to have a kind, joyful heart is something anyone can do (unless you’re literally brain dead which is functionally indistinguishable from dead).
This is just a personal anecdote, but one of my close friends and mentors has recently had to deal with his son developing Lou Gehrig’s disease (which is 100% terminal). It’s been really difficult for him to deal with, and anyone would understand if he became sad and angry. Instead, he has repeatedly chosen to be thankful for the time he does have and giving to the people around him- and I’m sure he feels much better because of that

>>713008892 (OP)
The funny part is this line is probably mistranslated like everything else in the game

>>713008892 (OP)
It's okay, they're going to rewrite her into one of those men hating lesbians in the remake, and she's going to say "incel" in the dialogues thanks to the based localizer.

>>713057132
don't you get tired of making up scenarios to get mad at

>>713057308
where do you think you are?

>>713056814
You can choose to be happy as long as you're alive?

>>713008892 (OP)
Here's a template just in case.

>>713057380
thank you, Anno

>>713057448

>>713057448
I'm don't want to derail but EoE is one of the most poignant movies I've seen and I still struggle to apply this principle in any way.

>>713020194
Golden fucks with the pacing too much. P4 already has ending fatigue, and Marie's dungeon doesn't add much except bloat. The original's endgame was better paced.

>>713057646
it ain't easy. it ain't easy at all. but you can do it anon :)

>>713057380
Not happy, joyful. Yes it’s different

I still can't believe people unironically like Larry. Her route is awful. If she didn't have her Yamato Nadashiko looks she wouldn't even register in the Otaku minds.

>>713057380
That's retarded
There are circumstances where it's impossible to be happy.

>>713053838
>Posts the villain that doesn't need depth to be effective or well written
Kamoshidachads stay winning

>>713058092
No one likes that jeet.

>>713057976
I don't like her but that blushing squint eyes look makes my pp jump up

>>713057902
>Marie's dungeon doesn't add much except bloat
and the second best dungeon theme in the game

>>713008892 (OP)
Yukiko is a spoiled normalfag whore and adachi is right

>>713056163
You're correct. I kneel.

>>713057976
there will always be contrarians with dog taste

>>713041143
I am almost everyone
He was right

>>713062153
if your a gay faggot, yes

>>713018437
While I agree, we're probably going to Hell anyway.

>>713057976
Who the fuck is Larry?

>>713053701
That might be true actually. Though I remember Adachi's whole flaw was his superiority complex. I can totally see him pissing everyone in Tokyo off with his arrogance and then being sent to Inaba via the excuse of his small mistake. Something I wonder is how much of his actions were truly his. He was under the influence of the gas attendant and him truly taking responsibility for the deaths doesn't track with his more lazy/half-assed approach to life.

>>713056720
I just love the music

>>713056516
laughing at you

>>713065072
I hate it. The tracks are way too short/loop too much and the constant switching between dungeon themes/fight themes is absolutely grating. Heaven is the worst offender in this. Track sounds nice for the first 1 and a half minutes you hear it. Once you notice it's the same chorus repeated every 30 seconds you become sick of it.

>>713065227
Fair points and i can understand them. I still like the soundtrack. I have to admit that the constant switching is bit shit tho, should have the option to keep the dungeon/overworld music playing and not just swap to battle theme every 20s. I think golden tried to remedy it a bit by changing the battle theme depending what you were wearing

>>713065325
>should have the option to keep the dungeon/overworld music playing
That wouldn't fix the problem considering like I said the dungeon themes are like 20 second snippets that just loop over and over. It barely works when it's simple ambient like the strip club which is same all throughout, but when it's an actual "song" like the heaven theme it becomes unbearable. You notice this when you fo backtracking in the dungeon after clearing it.

>>713008892 (OP)
She's a retard written by retards for retards, so who cares? Anyone who could play past a few months if this game has brain damage

>>713065551
I mean yeah, you are right. I still like the song so I dont mind it. I usually for some reason rush through heaven anyway. I think there are really annoying enemies in the upper floors? Been a while since I last played. About the music cutting out and changing, honestly it would be better to let just toggle on and off the change, i get your point but its still better then constant start and stop

>>713012304

>>713012304
She’s a good classmate

>>713008892 (OP)
>dude, your life's is like a garbage on fire and is eating your soul, but you don't want to die? are you stupid or something
who wrote this?
even if you ignore the shit writing, the main characters opinions are shit because almost all of them privileged kids
>yukiko
a smart beautiful girl of the owner of the only Hotel in town
>Naoto
a genius detective coming from a line of detectives, also she's beautiful
>Yosuke
a handsome boy of the owner of the biggest store in town
>Kanji
a handsome dude also his mother own a store
>Rise
a beautiful girl who's also a superstart/pop idol seen by millions, also the owner of a shop in town
>main character
middle class boy who meet a God in the first 5 min of the game
>Chie
the only normal girl
to succeed in the world you need to have connections, knowing the right people money and luck
>>713051914
there's nothing to do in a place like Inaba retard, you will knew if you lived in one

>>713067863
What are these things you'd want to do that you cannot do in a place like Inaba?

>>713020717
It's actually Rise, not Yosuke. In the last rank of his social link she still goes >wow fucking faggot when she what he made.

>>713067863
>he thinks Kanji is handsome
way to out yourself fag boy
Also his family owns a fucking homemade textile shop that's going out of business, are you retarded?

>>713016126
There can be no verbal response really. You hate each other and want each other dead/subservant, might as well get to it.
If anything Adachi is a retard for fishing for pity(?) from super special normies.

>>713047760
Based

>>713068512
I think it's less about pity and more of him trying to crush their dreams before they become a bitter wagie like him.

>>713068284

>>713019238
>Can't understand that being yourself doesn't mean having no responsibility.
>Actively supports serial killers.
Really goes and shows the difference between the modern left and right.

>>713068718
I don't even know what he's talking about, since when has the right ever given a shit about supporting rejects?

>>713069114
They don't, they just love to turn around and pretend they suddenly care when those rejects are themselves. It's like how the Nazis were almost made up entirely out of fucking outcast rat people freaks.

>>713008892 (OP)
That she is so overly privileged that she is incapable of empathizing with those less fortunate than her.

>>713025632
That's not the case in Inaba. Dojima doesn't drag any other colleague to hang out after work, he picks Adachi specifically because the guy is obviously not fitting in with the locals and is constantly demotivated at work. He's trying to be a friend when he's not busy wiping the guy's ass, and he's right to try because we can literally see in Adachi's social link that he has nothing to do with his life but brood and seethe that fulfillment wasn't handed to him on a silver platter.

>>713069503
>because we can literally see in Adachi's social link that he has nothing to do with his life but brood and seethe that fulfillment wasn't handed to him on a silver platter.
Wow... No wonder so many people here sympathize with him.

>>713069294
The issue here is he isn't less fortunate. He doesn't come from a poor/broken family or has some serious disability/illness. All the shit he complains about was his fault and a direct result of his poor life choices.

>>713069503
>Adachi's social link
fanfic garbage like all of Golden.

>>713020418
Maybe he has got a point and (Yu) not getting it is part of the problem.
>Just make friends, bro
That's not gonna make Adachi happy. Just because a bunch of kids and their meddling dog tell him to wageslave, does not make them right.

>>713069689
>That's not gonna make Adachi happy.
I mean, if all that makes you happy is murdering people or having success handed to you, you don't deserve to live.

>>713009053
It's literally a the devil you know situation. Living is a fucking nightmare, but dying could be even worse depending on what happens afterwards

>>713020574
Nah, it's an entirely normal mindset these days. Teenage years are when you form your identity and that involves a lot of growing pains and rebellion for the sake of rebellion. They can rave about dreams while never putting actual thought into the logistics of fulfilling them, they can rebel against the easy path paved by parents just because they don't want to live by hand-me-downs.

I was there myself, refusing to take lessons from my father and following in his footsteps as an engineer-designer. Went into code instead. Years later realized I hated codemonkeying under all the cope and the more creative aspects of being a designer called to me, started working part-time as his assistant now that he's too old to handle all the work himself.

>>713041714
Hire a hooker and get fucking over it, man. If you can't look in a mirror and honestly say you'd fuck yourself, why would you expect anyone else to do so with zero incentive?

>>713021934
If you actually explore the Unibomber's then you can also tell that he was immensely autistic, misandrist, and just generally hateful of other people. Just like Adachi, his rants do poke at the cruel realities of society, but those realities don't actually have anything to do with their reasons for harming other people because they were both in position to easily succeed in life and society if they tried. Neither were destined losers and could've at least coasted on mediocrity if not moderate success.

At the end of the day it's still all about ego and self-inflicted resentment.

Reminder to everybody:
>At age 33 Julius Ceasar wept before a statue of Alexander because his own accomplishments were so small in comparison.
>Lu Meng was in his mid thirties when Sun Quan told him to pick up scholarly pursuits.
>Oda Nobunaga was considered a fool and a Idiot by most people in his clan.
>Most great military leaders have suffered huge defeats at one point in their career.

>>713044054
/v/ is full of perma manchildren who basically want a mom they can also have sex with

Reminder that Nanako is the best girl in P4

>>713070572
Yeah, it's literally the female brained "someone will come and save me" fantasy.
Like, just troon out..

>>713070625
>Favorite horror movie
Are there any girls that would be into "The Thing"?

>>713012304
>>713012509
Just like me

>>713026736
>Unabomber was correct in his insights and in his actions

>For a period of several weeks in 1966, Kaczynski experienced intense sexual fantasies of being female and decided to undergo gender transition

Lol. Unaretard was wrong back then, and will be wrong forever. Just the improvements we made to farming and the reduction of soil erosion across the entire world since 1960 proves he should have just fucked off to some Amish settlement and disappeared forever.

We already reached a point where we can start returning farmland to it's wild state because new technologies enable us to grow far more food with much less water and land, the "natural" way of farming has already become inefficient and unenviable in the long term when compared to using machines to farm. The battle Unabomber was fighting was lost the instant machines enabled humans to farm for food without harming the land, we literally can't go back to the "natural" way of farming anymore.

>>713044054
Knowing that someone cares deeply about you, especially if you've never had that before, helps a lot.

>>713045350
Humans are genetically predisposed to finding a other half... but that still requires them to be half. A person that is only 1/4 isn't going to do shit.

>>713046601
Even if you dont go to heaven or hell the moment you die. Jesus states clearly in the gospel of John he will rise you from the grave and judge you and place you in heaven or hell depending if you believe him and follow the law of God.

>>713046701
nothing in life matters(enough to be alive for)=suicide

even "clinging to being simply alive" itself is still something, and it's not "nothing"

>>713055461
This. His rant is objectively correct, but is pure deflection for him just being bored and a bit of a bitch. This is where you faggots get it mixed up. His whole character is about putting on a front and not accepting himself, you know, the whole main theme of the game?

>>713008892 (OP)
The point is that she and other people can't understand his problem because they're normies and don't overthink dumb shit.
You can only sink to his level by overthinking every little thing and coming to insane conclusions by seeing a pattern where there is none. He's just crazy, plain and simple.

>>713008892 (OP)
It means the guy is a fucking pussy who needs to grow up.

>>713070443
Ted was successful, incredibly so, while still being one of the first and most harshly treated mk ultra victims, you fat fucking sperg.
Quit talking about things you clearly have no knowledge about.

>>713012304
Fucking Larry. they didn't even tone it down in Q1 and Q2. legitimately psychotic in those game.

I like how here entire social link is her coming to terms with the fact that she is an empty husk of a human being with no passion or desires, and ends up choosing the easiest path.

>>713041581
Except they are not. The man would be pig fodder in any other era. He should be grateful he's alive and gets to enjoy the world around him despite being such a insufferable melt.

>>713041581
Nothing he says is wrong because that's just basic observation. But how does trillions must accomplish anything exactly?

>>713041581
Nothing he says is wrong because that's just basic observation. But how does trillions must die accomplish anything exactly?

>>713075335
>she is an empty husk of a human being with no passion or desires
What if my passion is just simply existing?
I make a lot of people mad by doing just that

>>713049424
based, good luck bro

>>713019917
what about all the ntr rape sex that happens at hotels? I don't think it's as comfy or nice as it seems

>>713069864
i mean all he had to do was move to america where he'd get paid time off everytime he murdered someone. amirite or what?!

>>713012304
Reminded me of my highschool crush. Gave me even more reason to date Yukiko. Then again, driving book illustrations are pretty funny.

>>713075335
>inherit successful business and get fucked by chad ziodynecock

>>713008892 (OP)
She's a spoiled rich girl

>>713008892 (OP)
>>713017013
normalfags are evil

>>713069864
Adachi just realized that Jap society is a shit and the dude was granted supernatural powers. I believe that all nornalfags claiming that he is wrong ITT would do the same thing. You just blame Adachi because you are not like him.

>>713081612
>I believe that all nornalfags claiming that he is wrong ITT would do the same thing
What? Randomly murder people?

If I had supernatural powers there is plenty of stuff I would do. Become a serial killer is not one of them.

>>713081540
I forgive Japanese ones because they're mindbroken into NPCs since childhood. American normalfags are genuinely evil though and probably wish death upon you.

>>713081913
>That moment when you realize that Christians blowing up the world in SMT really isn't that far away from what they want.

>>713020710
They're there to stop him from committing murders, not to discuss philosophy. It wouldn't matter even if they agreed with his views
The shit he says are irrelevant to his actions

Adachi is the culmination of someone being a victim of circumstance than frames and reduces the entire world and people through that one lens. They were right to call him a child. Not because of his misfortune but because of his reductive train of thought.

>>713082781
then frames*

>>713021934
the most intelligent post ever on this board

>>713049773
I can't tell if it's funny or sad. The only Persona game post 2 that anyone gets is 3, and that's only because facing mortality feels like an inherently poignant theme due to it being an unavoidable part of the human experience.

>>713082781
>nooooooooo you can't just base your worldview on your actual lived experiences!!!

>>713008892 (OP)
Nihilists are annoying cowards.

>>713075042
>Quit talking about things you clearly have no knowledge about
>>713021934

>>713012304
I didn't know she watched Quedas de Moto

>>713081998
christians (and fake ones on here) seethe over japs' hate for them, but a lot don't realize Japan got the non family-friendly christians (j*suit c*tholics). So it's no wonder japs see the whole thing as one collective pestilence

>>713020710
They don't really aside from common sense of "fucking deal with it faggot its no excuse to become a proxy serial killer and try to kickstart the apocalypse" which is pretty valid given the circumstances to be fair.

Doesn't help that their arguments are pretty hollow given who they are coming from.

>Heir to a super successful inn
>Heir to a shop and super talented with knitting
>Heir to (Not) Walmart
>Chad with super special protagonist power and has max social stats
>A successful pop star everyone loves
>Genius heir to super special detective family
>Magic bear with super powers
The only one you could argue is Chie and she had "best friends with one of em to begin with"

>>713012304
Those rumors of Yukiko being the main villain seem truer by the day.

>>713075335
Morals in P4 were kinda bad at times.
Such a downgrade from P3.

>>713085268
morals from p3 are: people sad when other people die.

>>713078353
You know I might be wrong, but I'm going to go out on a limb and say that cuck porn probably isn't super realistic

>>713067863
>there's nothing to do in a place like Inaba retard, you will knew if you lived in one
I lived in a rural place in Japan for a while and it's kinda true. If you're a teenager I guess you can just ride your bicycle around and hang outside of konbinis. But for an adults it's boring asf

>>713020418
i would also murder sluts and caused end of the world if i could get away with it, lol
only chads and women get to have a good life in this word, fuck it

>>713081612
He acquires supernatural power that has the potential to earn morbillions dollars and he uses it to kill two random whores that he barely knows.

>>713085697
wow just like real life

>>713086930
and real life is not that impressive

>>713085697
explain

>>713087117
character die
other characters sad.
sad because character previously mentioned is die

>>713040601
Truly a shame. I held off on playing Metaphor for a couple of months just because I wanted to experience it without any outside commentary contaminating my experience and you'd have to be fucking retarded to make any connection from this game to wokeshit. It has a fairly naive stance on racial social dynamics, but that's about it. Great game, feels more in line with the attitude of the West in the 90s towards colorblindness for better or worse.

>>713087228
Skyrim and Metaphor are pretty similar for racial racism but Metaphor gets shit on for the politics.
I blame the Thalmor.

>>713020710
he was fundamentally right
society and life as a result are rigged, nothing matters but things outside of your control: genetics and opportunities life happens to grant you.

Adachi focuses exclusively on genetics(talent), because it is indeed more important,(you can't capitalize on opportunities whithout good genetics for the most part) and ignores circumstances(whitch includes "connections" the mcs mostly claim their sucscess comes from, ignoring that connections are one of the results of genetic gift, be it sociable personality, nice looks, or whatever else coming together with opportunity, like being in the right place at the right time. you can't choose to have connections, it's fate's decision), but still, correct in principle.

so if you get dealt a bad hand by life, why not screw everyone over if you feel like it?
your life won't get better, but at least you'll feel better by tearing down it's arbitrary winners
there's no argument against that, but manipulations from the "winners" trembling that their unearned life they selfishly enjoy while arrogantly looking down at those unlucky might be taken away or interfered with

>>713067863
MC and Adachi literally have the same power from the same source and if MC is privileged then so is Adachi. Him deciding to use his powers to murder women instead of befriending others is his problem

>>713087554
If Skyrim came out today it would get shit on for its politics too. Mass internet access and smartphones were a mistake

>>713021934
>innocent
they are normalfag women, so a foundational fabric of normalfaggot society, they are guilty of forming it
plus, aren't both of them whores or something?

>>713008892 (OP)
It makes perfect sense, but it takes a truly elevated mind to realize that the truth only has one face, that of a brutal contradiction.

>>713052232
>kind of unsatisfied with his life
Kind of an understatement
He wholeheartedly believed he would have time to forge connections when he succeeded in his career, but he fucked up and got sent to bumfuck nowhere, effectively killing his career and making him face the fact that he doesn't know how to form bonds despite being a grown adult

>>713044054
in that case what are women even for?
are they just incredibly demanding, shitty looking ses dolls?

>>713070572
yes. and?
that's objectively superior to a traditional relationship(male slavery)

>>713008892 (OP)
What game is this? Battletoads?

>>713046601
if it was real god would make sure it would stay in the bible, tard

>>713051914
>dbz
brown

>>713046601
>NSRV

>>713055158
works for chads

>>713088890
Max Payne 3

>>713050787
Am I misremembering, or were ArcSys and Atlus so lazy that they couldn't even draw Adachi in a prison garb?

>>713054462
He's somehow so broke that he's living off cabbage soup. Either Nippon pays its cops like shit, or he was blowing money somewhere.

>>713087754
seeing how things play out, MC is a hot and adachi is not
and yes, our society is so gay that this little difference decides if you gonna conquer the world or be a loser

>>713088850
You not being able to look after yourself is why women are turned off by you.

>>713089881
women are turned off because i'am not hot.
yeah, they have a preference for personality(ancient warlord) but they would ignore it for a right skull shape and long legs

>>713089627
Isn't Adachi noted as not being bad looking?

>>713090249
he is probably like 5/10
his art gives that impression, and it would make sense for a character he is

>>713090249
He's supposed to be plain looking. Not ugly, but not attractive either. Just a normal looking everyman.

japanese culture
>shut up and work for nothing. if you're gonna whine just kill yourself so you stop being a burden on others
>if you succeed it's because of everybody else, so if you fail it's entirely your fault
crabs in a bucket who were taught to be proud of it

>>713090753
more or less the same everywhere else, no?

>>713026383
Kill yourself retard

>>713090249
Mog is relative. He's not explicitly stated as ugly, but he's no Chad Thundercock. Sadly, even being average in looks is enough to make a man go full dark triad.

>>713090414
>>713090750
>>713091294
Considering the amount of fangirls he has, he totally could get with a girl if he tried.

>>713090753
>if you succeed it's because of everybody else, so if you fail it's entirely your fault
Yes.

Human contact defines you. Failing at that means you fail at life.

>>713085697
versus "if you're unhappy you should kill yourself" from p4

which ironically would fit more in p3

>>713090753
>if you succeed it's because of everybody else, so if you fail it's entirely your fault
well all success is defined by who you know and who you were born as, so yes :)

>>713091503
>Your success is mine. Your failure is yours.
Yes, yes, I get it tovarich. Now get in the gulag.

>>713091503
Sensing some projection here.

>>713091503
>if you work hard and achieve great things, everyone else gets to take credit
"No!"
To be fair, that guy had it wrong. It's collective responsibility. If you fail, everyone does. It's why you get Japs performing abstract blame shifting.

>>713091685
>If you succeed you succeed because of your connection with others.
>If you fail you failed because you failed to make connections with others.
Not hard to understand, anon. Great men of history and individualism are western myths.

>>713091781
We get it. Gulag. Now.

>>713091890
What would the Jap equivalent of a Gulag be?

>>713091781
that in my eyes makes robbing and scamming successful people to be morally correct

things they have they did not earn, so what if you take it, it isn't theirs

>>713091750
Eh... it depends on how you look at things. Part of the issue is that from a societal perspective most human lives are incredibly expendable.

>>713091961
Another day at the office.

>>713091961
a bad place

>>713091990
>that in my eyes makes robbing and scamming successful people to be morally correct
Yes. It's basic meritocracy at work.

>things they have they did not earn, so what if you take it, it isn't theirs
Even if they did earn it, the fact you took it means by default you are more deserving of it than them. The fact they did NOT in fact earn it makes it morally good.

>>713092127
>the fact you took it means by default you are more deserving of it than them
this must be how black people think

>>713092039
Human lives are terrifyingly worthless. That doesn't make our individual struggles less meaningful to our own narratives. It's an issue of respect for boundaries. Where does my movie end and his begin?

>>713075335
No, her slink is her realizing that she didnt appreciate what her family and coworkers were doing for her.

>>713092213
It's how all humans think, deep down inside. America especially fucking love scam artists. Robbing at least generally has something uncivilized about it. It's far too personal and close on the ground. A good scam though? That's a dignified and intellectual process.

>>713085697
Nothing lasts forever. The sooner you realize it, the more motivated you will be to live to the fullest and truly appreciate life. Most people in the world take everything for granted and subconsciously think that they will live forever and that the times and people they have will never change or disappear

>>713092213
well it's 11 am on a thursday, it's ESL and gib collector hours

>>713092267
Boundaries are a troublesome thing. Japan is uniquely evil in that regard, I will admit.

>>713084932
>heir to not walmart
Yosuke's dad is just a branch manager retard.
>kanji
His family's shop along with many others were getting cucked by Junes opening up.

>>713092426
>life runs on FOMO
grim

>>713092350
Nobody thinks like this. You personally have something wrong inside.

>>713092626
>Nobody
Please. I'm fine with accepting you genuinely don't think so. But pretending this isn't the norm is retarded. Most people will justify theft that is far more unreasonable.

>>713092350
>

my parents are christian morlafags, so they raised me completely unprepared for the world, and by the time i understood how things work i was too far behind
At least they made up for that mistake by letting me be a NEET

so i somewhat relate to adachi
you try to do things a proper way and everything goes wrong because nothing about our society is fair or proper
And it leaves certain resentment
i think if my life doesen't turn the way i want it to be by 30 i will dedicate years i have left to killing and maybe raping attractive young middle class+ women

>>713092714
>shitskin projecting his admiration of scammers and other criminals
baffling

>>713092926
Whites largely voted for Trump, anon.

>>713092914
I vented my rage by returning library DVDs a week late, but everyone has their own price for the world to theoretically pay.

>>713018302
>allows (You) to have sex with teenage high school girls under his roof without calling you a manwhore

what a cool uncle

>>713092714
Other guy here. Also don't think that way. Have you entertained the idea that you might be a psychopath? It's categorised as a disorder for a reason.

>>713093216
I think most people deep down inside are perfectly okay with theft based on their behavior. I won't be so arrogant to pretend I'm above that, unlike you. Who most likely partakes in theft every day but pretends to be above it.

>>713092457
The point is talent and/or nepotism. Chie was the only one who didn't really have any standout thing aside from being Yukiko's best friend

>>713093479
I stole a tenner from my dad when I was around 10. Wasn't caught/reprimanded, still ashamded of it to this day at 30 years old. Think this is just a (You) case, lad.

>>713093675
>The only theft I've ever done in my life is taking something from my dad.
Lol. You have a massively inflated sense of what belongs to you, that much I can tell.

>>713093537
The only one who cartoonishly stands out as a winner in human society is Rise. The rest are struggling. And this is pristine anime land, so there's no casting couch to meme about.

>>713070283
>. If you can't look in a mirror and honestly say you'd fuck yourself,
Who says I wouldn't retard

>>713019238
>isn't too much of a tomboy
That wasn't Naoto's arc at all, wtf

>>713093765
Sounds like pretending others have the same monkey behavior as you didn't work out.

>>713094559
Again, whites voted Trump into office. Pretending it's a racial thing is laughable when idealizing scam artists is a core part of American culture.

>>713038409
>hurr durr
Someone always posts something along those lines, often with Adachi attached. I don't care if you, specifically, isn't the person always posting this shit. Just stop. We don't need to be reminded of this. Everyone already knows. Stop preaching to the fucking choir, you absolute retard.

>>713040262
>the true culprit for the casual fags who can't pay attention.
You only did the true ending because you followed a guide.

>>713042401
No, that's literal headcannon. The only thing that is canonically true is that he made a "small mistake."

>>713008892 (OP)
just means what thats guy was so inept and indecisive that he couldnt bring change or closure to his state of life
couldn't kill himself but couldn't change his situation
Yukiko being a gigastacy obviously wouldn't be able to relate when she gets dicked down by Chad "Yu" Ziodynecock Narukami everyday

>>713075335
>inherit a successful business in a comfy japanese town working with your family and coworkers you like
>NOOOO I WANT TO BE A SOULESS WAGIE IN THE CITY INSTEAD
Her conflict was forced as hell in the first place, almost everyone would choose the easy path.

>>713093176
Dojima brought Yu into his house with the intent of Yu marrying Nanako and impregnating her as she lives out her dream working as a cashier at Junes

>>713096821
>as she lives out her dream working as a cashier at Junes
Jesus fucking christ that is absolutely grim. Thank god for the Golden true ending.

>>713017013
Adachi's entire social link is about how there's people who care about him but he just refuses to open up because he's an edgy asshole. He actually learns his lesson after P4 but somehow anons here still don't see it.

>>713097373
>Old woman who ditches him when her son comes back
>Dojima who shits on him at every turn

>>713097373
some people refuse to learn until they have to. for adachi it was getting arrested and ruining his life forever. he states that he prefers being alone because it's easy, but all of his motivations are drawn from a desire to be with people

i think a lot of anons in this thread will realize that too. but it will be when their 35+ and realize playing video games and jacking off all day isn't that fun anymore

>>713097604
>adachi slacks nonstop
>dojima still gives him the every opportunity possible
incels are women tier when it comes to denial of personal responsibility

>>713097991
Dojima gets wasted and forces him to hang with him afterwards
He's a pos

>>713097604
>acts like the old lady is annoying at every opportunity
>surprised when she goes back to her son
>slacks off at every opportunity
>surprised when boss yells at you
It's a self-defeating mentality, he thinks something is not gonna work out so he doesn't even try and feels vindicated when it doesn't work out. But really it's all his fault.

>>713098352
>he doesn't even try
He tried with the girld and it didn't work out
You can only fail so many times before you give up

>>713093176
>grows great vegetables
Great vegetables

>>713088615
Wow he's literally me
Except for the part where I don't even have a job to begin to pretend I could form connections from
I'm too old now anyway, even if I got a job it'd be too late, I'd be in pretty much the same position as Adachi.
I know how to form bonds though, I could if I had a good career. I formed bonds in school after all, it's the same thing. It's when you're not in school or in a career and happen to have completely fallen off the train that everyone else was and still is on that it becomes impossible.

I guess that's the real difference between investigation team and Adachi, none of them are dropouts, none have been held back in school, or have had their life path altered or straight up disgraced in any way.

>>713092127
Chink