Video games, as we once knew them, are dead.

>for Nintendo

Fixed. PS5 has Stellar Blade

>>713011631 (OP)
>That'll be $90 + tax + tip
I shan't be buying any Switch 2 games

Yeah they died in 2003 when Valve released Steam

>>713011631 (OP)
No one tell OP about Satellaview, FDS rewrite stations or Nintendo Power for GB/SNES.

>>713011631 (OP)
Blu-ray Discs are dirt cheap and, unlike meme NAND flash cards, they won't lose data if unplugged for three years.

>buying games that you won't be able to play when nintendo shut the servers down in 10 years
lmao

>>713011936
Pretty sure all of that was Japan-only.

>>713011728
>PS5 has [shit no one ever heards about and none cares]
yes we already know PS5 has no games.

>>713011993
Crazy how I purchased Half Life in 1998 and can still play it on my newly upgraded 2025 PC.

>>713012338
NTA. Half-Life wasn't a Steamworks title, tho.

>The tedium of having to switch games manually and the risk of them breaking if you're retarded
>The chore of conserving storage, needing to wait for the online download to finish and the fact they won't work once the servers hosting the games go down.
The worst of both worlds, thanks big N!

>>713011631 (OP)
The ratio is grim as fuck, mang.

>>713011631 (OP)
The Wii could be remotely disabled and had games that you would lose if the servers were turned offline.

>>713012409
It is a digital license though.

>>713012607
No, it isn't. Hell, the GotY edition even removed the disc check. You can redeem the key, but isn't mandatory.

>Buy digital version of games I can't pirate yet
>When the store shuts down for good, just download it to my system or pirate it on the emulator that works perfectly because it's been like 20 years

>>713012723
???

>>713012868
The retail edition can work without Steam.

>>713012909
That's what I purchased.

>>713011631 (OP)
>buyfag/consolefag problem
KEK

>>713011631 (OP)
I it is completely ok thing because it is Nintendo that is doing it.
IF it was anyone else I would be fuming.

>>713012953
Indeed.

>>713011631 (OP)
I’ve been digital only since the Wii U. I hate clutter.

>lets you resell your digital your digital game
>this is somehow a bad thing
nintendo as always is king

>uptick in games going digital
>meaning less money spent on distribution in retail stores and printing discs
>price of games still going up

>>713013526
Prices are not linked to the production cost at all, it's just about the "number of sales x price per unit" ratio.
As you increase the price, the number of sales go down and vice versa, however it's not a perfect linear function.

I don't know about nintendo because nintendo is nintendo, but the other companies are doing a multi-tier approach now, where the launch price is high to take advantage of the whales, then when the sales ratio go down, they start to do discounts, then when the discounts are not enough they slash the price of the game, and then it goes to the plus shit to make the third worlders somehow pay for the game.

>>713013249
What if I don't want a digital game but a physical one instead?

>>713014107
>nooo I don't want the permanent freely tradable digital licence (as long as the company doesn't die), I want the 100 niggabyte memory chip that will die in 10 years anyway due to bit rot !

>>713014748
You need the key card inserted into your Switch 2 in order to even play the game, yes even when its fully installed. So what exactly is the benefit of these shitty key cards over real physical versions?

>>713015129
>tiktok zoom zoom can't remember what he's responding to just 2 posts away
AIIIIIIEEEEEEEE SAVE ME NIGGERMAN

>>713015582
The muh sell cope? You do realize you could always do that with real physical versions too, right retard? So again, what's the benefit of these shitty key cards as opposed to real physical versions because all I'm seeing is a straight up downgrade that only nigger brained faggots like (you) defend.

>>713016146
Storage is expensive zoom zoom, and now indies get physical store presence thanks to cheaper manufacturing costs.

>>713016393
>and now indies get physical store presence
NTA. Wait, what? I thought that physical copies of indie games were only sold online with boutique distributors like Limited Run Games?

Limited Run Games didn't give a brick and mortar presence, it was nothing more than a way of getting a limited edition.
Key cards with no storage means now basically anyone indie can ship their games on store shelves with little cost.

>>713016393
>Storage is expensive
It sure is, faggot and now the blunt of that cost is thrown onto the consumer thanks to these key cards. Modern game file sizes are bloted as fuck and micro SD EXPRESS cards are expensive and don't even come in high capacities either, so you're double fucked. How the fuck does this benefit me, the consumer again?

>>713016841
>Key cards with no storage means now basically anyone indie can ship their games on store shelves with little cost.
Okay, what indie game developers have shipped games to retail using these cards?

>years from now
>want to play your old Switch 2 games
>whoops, all of them are bricks now because the servers are long gone and you can't download or activate them anymore
>Thankfully you can rebuy them all at full price on their newest console
Pretty much the only reason they've done this

>>713016873
I'm not saying I agree with it niggerman, the last console I owned was a Sega Saturn. But game keys do let you re-sell your games, which is better than printing a cd-key.
>>713017001
It's not even been out a month yet anon. I imagine Silk Song will?

>>713011631 (OP)
My box full of PS2 games is still there. Nintendo didn't come and rob me at night.

>>713017306
>whoops, all of them are bricks now
this but with CDs

>>713011947
Puriizu andasutando, Nintendo won't make enough money if they can't jew every single developer who wants to release a physical game on their console with overpriced storage media. They've been doing that since the NES days and it was the primary purpose of the lockout chip (which Famicom didn't have). Sankyuu.

>>713016501
>>713016841
They already did that on Switch 1 because there were different cart sizes for carts, unlike now where its either a 64GB cart or a key card with no in between. Seriously, look up how many indies got physical retail versions even outside of Limited Jew and their ilk.

I'll be that guy and say I don't totally hate key cards. Full physical is still much preferred, but key cards are still better than digital-or-nothing. You can lend them out, sell them, give them away, collect them, and most importantly they have retail shelf space meaning there isn't a digital monopoly where consumers have zero choice in purchasing options. Allegedly physical cartridges currently cost 16 dollars PER cartridge, so it's hard to fault third-parties wanting to use the cheaper key cards when they often discount their prices as it is.
The only actual downside to key cards is the use of storage on your console, which would be the same issue if the game was digital-only anyway.

>>713017256
That would have to be 50+ years from now.
The Wii still to this day allows you to download games you've already purchased, and that shit is slapdash. They were not future-proofing in the slightest that generation.
Meanwhile key cards are deliberately designed to be downloadable, there's actually zero chance they just "shut down the servers" for a very, very long time. And by that time, the physical cartridges won't work anyway.

>>713011631 (OP)
One of the reasons I preferred the Switch over the PS4 was that it didn’t do that shit.

>>713011947
Plus Sony took out their stake their stake in them years ago

>>713011631 (OP)
Take your meds, tranny

>>713012102
>shit no one ever heards about and none cares
But enough about nintendo

>>713020204
Square and capcom are honorary pajeets

>>713020204
Don't worry jeetie download codes are still a thing, it's just real physical games that are being replaced by key-cards

>>713011631 (OP)
you even if you ignore the not owning anything angle. This is still an absolute downgrade from those cases that just had a download code. Like at least with those you download em and you can play them whenever even when the shops gone so long you dont uninstall or break it. Meanwhile key card has the down side of physical copies and digital at the same time you still have a game cluttering the limited storage AND now you still have to get ur ass off the couch to put the damn "game" in the console. As far as I see its a total downgrade
>but i can resell it
these thing are going to have such little value 2nd hand market. nobody want em

The switch 2 flopped.

Normie people hate it.
Collectors hate it.
Gamers hate it.
Youtubers hate it.
Reviewers are on the fence and mixed reactions even from paid shills.

Its been a colossal failure and any other excuse is cope. The initial sales are done. The hype is over. The post launch sales are done. 15 million at most in 2-3 years.

Its dropping off like a rock as people see how locked down it is compared to switch 1.

Nobody is buying it

>>713020204
yeah, that was the exception, now it's the norm with the Shitch 2.

>>713022010
don't forget that it destroys itself when a magnet is near it.

>>713022010
read >>713020204

>>713017306
>But game keys do let you re-sell your games,
until the servers are closed down, then they are 100% worthless, and only a moron would buy them anyway.

>>713022113
glad I sold my Nintendo stock the other day, made a decent profit since I bought before the split

>>713011631 (OP)
but nortubel exists

>>713011631 (OP)
Good, I hope DENUVO gets added to every new release and never removed.

>>713017690
>They already did that on Switch 1
No they didn't.
>>713022365
Yeah, like PC games and CD-keys you fucking moron.
>bu-but no-CD patches
yeah and every nintendo console has been cracked as well.

>>713022460
>Yeah, like PC games
my old PC games on floppy + CD still work fine, no gay online DRM involved, zoomer.

>>713011631 (OP)
It's really not very different from PC gaming in the 90s where you installed a game from disc and then still needed to insert the disc anyway because it was the DRM.

>>713022529
>CD still work fine, no gay online DRM involved
Larping faggot.
Also, same with my old nintendo consoles you brain damaged retard.

>>713022561
>when everything was on CD and you installed the game from CD, and you didn't need internet servers at all
>that's the same just like this Valve-like DRM scam
Are you alright?

>>713013526
Gotta pay all 10,000 people listed in the hour and twenty minute long credits sequences in every video game these days, after all!

>>713022529
anon you couldn't even RETURN a pc game when it was opened, nevermind sell it on

>>713022561
I don't remember the part in the 90's where the disc was entirely empty aside from DRM and I had to download the entire game with a 56k modem. Just an install time from few seconds to 2 minutes and play, no connection needed.

>>713011631 (OP)
Wait until you find out what valve did in 2003

>CD's just work there's no online DRM
underage b&

>>713022750
>you couldn't sell physical PC games
t. zoomer retard

>>713022845
Online activation wasn't really a thing until Half-Life 2 and BioShock for non-Valve games, tho.
Those cracks are non-CD ones.

>>713022845
>oh noes, I had to put my PHYSICAL MEDIA which i OWNED into the disc drive
>THE HORROR
t. zoomer-retard-dumb-fuck

>>713011631 (OP)
But Playstation and xbox had been doing that for years

>>713016841
Okay, and what's the excuse for every big name publisher with more than enough money to afford actual cards using key cards instead?

>>713023043
I said RETURN, in block capitals, you brain damaged retard.
>>713023062
Games still sold with licence keys though and couldn't be returned once opened.
>>713023181
It was objectively inferior to what we have today you fucking fag.
>>713023252
Are you asking sincerely or just pretending to be retarded?

>>713011737
you can't afford them anyway lol

>>713022649
>>713022765
I said it wasn't very different, not that it was the exact same. Maybe if you weren't busy malding you'd have some reading comprehension.

>>713023360
>Games still sold with licence keys though
it depends. Many of them did not.

>>713013074
Every major AAA release has been doing this for more than a decade with discs. How are you not a pile of char right now?

>>713023252
Nothing. Eventually the tech will catch up again and the cost physical won't have these results. What Nintendo did with key cards is basically acting as a litmus test for which developers are pro consumer. Nintendo passed since theirs will be mostly physical when possible. We'll see how others do, and it's not looking good so far.

>>713023043
This, I bought most of my physical PC games used back in the day because even if they had CD-keys they obviously didn't have online verification. I think the only one that did was Diablo 2 and even then that was only if you wanted to play online in battlenet.

>>713023360
>oh noes, I can't give back a USED PC game
Ok, show me how you give back a used PC game, 3 hours after you figured out the main character was made gay

>>713023391
and maybe if you didn't have reading comprehension you'd realize the difference between "not very different" and "extremely different"

>>713022750
Yeah you can't return most opened electronics unless it's proven defective. Point still stands.

>>713012476
Even the on cart games rely heavily on DLC.

>>713023360
Yeah, it was a serious question. And >>713023506 got it right on the money.
>>713023549
Seething because you were called out isn't going to help your case any. It's not very different at all. One minor difference in where the data from the game comes from, and that's it.

>>713023543
Any sort of return is better than no return you brain damaged retard.
>>713023627
You never had a point. At no point was PC gaming in the late 90's or 00's better than what we have now.
>>713023659
>Yeah, it was a serious question.
It's obviously bigger margins.

>>713023360
>It was objectively inferior to what we have toda
no rights, no ownership, and being a cuck and remote disabled devices, having to buy new ones like a simp?

It was confirmed that if you were console banned you can't use game key cards.

>>713023812
>any sort of return muuuuhh
when you own a PC game, you can sell it.
if you don't like PC game (back then there was no Steam-slop), you could simply sell it.
Or have a nice fire with YOUR PROPERTY, simp.

>>713023916
based

>>713023659
>One minor difference
yeah...the distinction between media being physical and a digital download, the entire point of the conversation...minor. ok then. i accept your concession.

>>713023834
>no rights, no ownership
You never had rights or ownership. You couldn't sell the games on because the licence was burned.
Also having to put the disk in the tray, keying in a licence key, waiting for the slow-ass installer to install, changing the disks arou-
oh wait disk 3 is broke and now I have a 4 disks worth nothing.
Meanwhile, I can hit download and play immediately and it just works.
>>713023917
>when you own a PC game, you can sell it.
Thanks for demonstrating you're underage and have no idea what you're talking about.

>>713024264
>Thanks for demonstrating you're underage and have no idea what you're talking about.
NTA. I buy used PC games all the time, tho.

>>713024264
>You couldn't sell the games on because the licence was burned.
are you retarded, zoomer?

What do you think is this?
https://www.ebay.com/itm/146657755538

>>713023812
>its ok when PC does it
All I needed to hear

>>713024264
>You never had rights or ownership.
Before Valve you did.

>>713011728
ps6 is 100% going to be all digital.

>>713011631 (OP)
>KEY CARDS BAD
>Pic related literally does the same thing

>>713020204
I want Square Enix to go out of business already so Nintendo can finally take over Dragon Quest publishing

>>713026819
The way the world works, it'd be bought out by Tencent.

>>713022460
>No they didn't.
You have no clue what you're on about.

>>713023653
None of those have any DLC, at least not yet.

>>713011631 (OP)
>Trails Beyond the Horizon collector's edition costs $10 more for switch 2
>comes in a game-key card
That shit gave me a good laugh yesterday.

>>713011631 (OP)
nobody gives a shit about tendies or console keks. video games are alive and well.

>>713027234
faggots deserve it for getting our game delayed. fuck tendies. they should all be rounded up and killed.

>>713026627
>literally does the same thing
I think you don't know what 'literally' means, since there's at least part of the game on disc. Sure, it ain't the whole game, only chapter 1 or so, and it's fucking gay jewery that they'd do that, but it's not 'literally' the same thing. More like, 'almost as bad'. But at least you can play a part of the game after the download servers die instead of fucking nothing, if you really want to. But all EA employees still deserve to fucking die in a fire, and their families and cats too for pulling that shit.

>>713026627
>muhu Snoy
Computer says no
https://www.doesitplay.org/game/Star%20Wars%20Jedi%3A%20Survivor/ps4/PS5%20BC?region=ESRB&version=Standard

>>713027347
Calm down lil troll bro

>>713013923
The entire industry is trying to push the shit of "if the game is good, we can charge more for it", when it should be "If the game is good, it will sell a lot"

>>713016393
>Need storage for game
>storage costs x
>X is added to the final price
Now we are
>game doesn´t need storage
>We still charge the consumer with the normal price like we had to put storage for the game anyway.

>>713012476
New trails also needs to be there

>shitpost older consoles are physical DRM
>nintendo actually does it
lol. lmao
the future is grim. nintendos next console is going to be entirely streaming like stadia except when WHEN NINTENDO DOES IT...

>>713030417
square and capcom already tried it with the switch 1 and not even the most retarded of normos accepted it