Thread 713046348

Braid

>>713046348 (OP)
Disco Elysium

>>713046348 (OP)
That one indie game that has pixel graphics and it is abourt an emotional experience and depression and shit
Can't remember the name

stanley

>>713046348 (OP)
UNIRONICALLY I would have preferred if this game was a linear sequence of line puzzles and didn't have the overworld.

>>713048230
I thought this game was gonna be like Myth or Riven where it was a bunch of puzzles using the world but turns it it was literally just line puzzles. Complete garbage.

>>713046348 (OP)
I used to think this game was cool until I played Myst and I realized this game is Myst for millennials

>>713048076
there's probably a few dozen of those

>>713048480
Jon Blow had to code the engine FROM SCRATCH because Unity and Unreal couldn't handle his vision. It cost him more than 20 million dollars. The Witness is the greatest game ever made.

>>713048230
I would've preferred if this game involved more world based puzzles and less standing there and solving two dozen line based puzzles in a row

>>713048482
Myst is Myst for millennials though. I'm a millennial and grew up playing all the Myst games, from the first in '93 all the way to Myst V in '05, even Uru though I never played it online.

>>713046348 (OP)
I genuinely get the hate, but I play through The Witness like once every few years. It's a meditative experience for me when life gets hard or I have to make some tough choices.

>>713048974
you should try hitting the GYM instead of being an emotive little bitch
FAGGOT

>>713048679
Jon Blow is a fucking idiot. The Witness feels just like your run of the mill 2010s Unity game. His claims that it was too primitive to do fucking line puzzles is just him being retarded and unable to code in C# or C++.

>>713049829
What language is his compiler written in?

>>713049946
Jai, his own language made from scratch.

>>713048141
What's pretentious about it? It's just a funny walking sim.

awesome game

>>713046348 (OP)
theres nothing pretentious about the witness unless you're an insecure midwit

>>713048076
you're describing an entire genre at this point

>>713050193
The pointless audiologs and the endings.

>>713050448
why are they pretentious?

>>713050061
So you're saying he's a genius?

>>713048076
This?
https://ocias.com/works/loved/
>>713050256
I don't think it was an entire genre back when this was made, thoughbeit.

>>713050548
Yeah, if re-inventing the wheel makes you a "genius".

>>713050509
They add or explain nothing to the game. The only good one was the 1 hour lecture it makes you sit through to complete one of the optional environment puzzles because that's funny.

I just ignored the audiobooks after the first one. Puzzles were alright. Wish it had more atmosphere.

>>713048482
Myst is dope. If you've played a few of those you'll also love Quern.

>>713046348 (OP)
undertale

>>713050710
>explain
they're showcasing different takes on human perspective and understanding
which is the theme of the puzzles
you're a brainlet retard who needs everything "explained"

>>713046348 (OP)
Pretentious doesn't simply mean "something that makes me feel retarded".

The filtering of the color and bird dungeons tell me all I need to know about the hate for this game. Blow unintentionally made a eugenics simulator and released it to the general public.

Anyone ever play Antichamber?
It's pretty pretentious at the start but after a while it's just bullying you with hard puzzles so it feels deserved.

>>713046348 (OP)
>>713048141
Good picks but I think this is the worst.

>>713051708
I don't remember Antichamber having a story at all, I thought it was just a pure puzzle game that ends with a fade to black or whatever.

>>713051708
This game still lives rent free in my head with some of the puzzles.

>>713051931
There's some weird shit to it, like black boxes of dialog on the walls that give you vague hints but also some sort of pseudo-spiritual motiviation, that always felt pretentious to me, or like the timer in the first room when it hits 0:00 some text shows up saying "It's not always about the timer do things at your own pace" like fuck you.

>>713048076
Thomas Was Alone?

>>713050962
anons pretending to be fans of shitty games always gets me

>>713052572
>shitty games
widely regarded as one of the finest puzzle games ever made

Every single Kirby game.
>IS THIS YOUR FIRST KIRBY GAME?
>No.
>SHOULD WE EXPLAIN THE COPY ABILITY?
>No.
>KIRBY CAN FUCKING EAT HIS ENEMIES AND GAIN THEIR POWERS.
>ISN'T THAT FUCKING COOL?
Every time. Every. Fucking. Time.

Bro. Everyone knows this by now, there is no need to imply the importance and divine mechanic that is Kirby's ability to eat and poop stars.

>>713046348 (OP)
BlowGOD is still filtering midwits and brainlets to this day. Love to see it.

>>713052621
kek

>>713046348 (OP)
The Talos Principle

>>713052673
>pooltard missing the obvious commentary on consumerism
Who could've guessed?

>>713052908
It literally isn't and you are a fucking retard. End your life immediately.

>>713048076
Kek. Surprised other anons didn't get the joke

More like faggotwatch
I know these are buzz words but its a walking sim that isnt cinematic enough to be a movie game

>>713050548
Somebody invented brainfuck, too. It doesn't take a genius.

>>713048482
I played Myst as a kid on a Pentium 1 thoughbeit

>>713050061
No it's in C++

GODnathan Blow owns you you fucking nigger.
Nothing you ever do with your life will come close to having the cultural impact of his games. Nothing you ever create will be as impressive as his games. Nothing you think will be as complex as his thoughts. Face it, he won.

>>713046348 (OP)
The Looker

How is it pretentious? I haven’t played it since the release but I enjoyed my play through.

This game is in my 3x3 as my favorite puzzle game ever made and I've been on this board since 2004 and consider myself one of the truest proper anons to have ever lived. I refuse to even be friends with someone outside of this website unless they were literally there at pool's closed.

My wife was at pool's closed, you have no counter argument. Who am I being pretentious towards? Channers? Top kek.

>>713051708
I hate how all the puzzles just felt like
"Oh you think going through the door labeled EXIT? gets you out and is the solution? HEH, its actual the door that says NO EXIT is the solution!"
rinse repeat. Its "think outside the box" over and over to the point of predictability.

>>713054443
>you have no counter argument
Your wife is a man

>>713051824
Ok yeah it's fucking this
>Boohoo people want my games to have a point I'm gonna bitch about it for three hours

>>713046348 (OP)
Expedition 33

>>713055063
i dont remember this puzzle

Memely Parable. It's the most insufferable shit imaginable. Even if it's """ironic""", it's complete fucking dogshit. I've tried to stomach it three different times but I can only sit through a few endings before the grating, fedora-tipping narrator is too much.

>>713051824
This.

>>713049148
Post body

>>713057447
I loved Stanley Parable but I wasn't a big fan of Deluxe Edition. DE's new content felt like how critics of the original game describe it

>>713046348 (OP)
Gone Home

>>713046348 (OP)
Kentucky Route Zero

>>713046348 (OP)
Spec Ops The Line

>>713046348 (OP)
That one with the grandma that dies at random while walking through a graveyard.

>>713062029
Would be great if it actually had a tranny ghost.

>>713046348 (OP)
it was so funny watching normie forums flip on this game's message after they learned the dev's politics

>>713048679
>>713050548
Don't embarrass yourself John

>>713046348 (OP)
Only good games get called pretentious. If a game never gets called pretentious, it means it's brainless meathead easily digestible consoomer media.

>name a more pretentious game
easy your favorite game

What Remains of Edith Finch

There I said it

>>713062078
I am only starting Act II now, but I really like it so far. Excited to see where it goes.

>>713062402
Somehow, you misunderstood your own assertion.
"Only good games get called pretentious" does not imply that every good game gets called pretentious.

>>713051708
i always read this as antigaschamber

Team Ico games, The Witness, Outer Wilds, Kentucky Route Zero... aka good games.

>>713052678
context?

>>713046348 (OP)
Gone homo

>>713059887
What happened in Deluxe

>>713063763
It has a lot of "new content" but other than one isolated new ending 100% of it is tied directly to the meta-commentary of the game being an expanded remaster. All of it is self-referential to that fact and, while there were some funny jokes in there including an entire set of alternate endings for the original game's routes depending on whether you pick up a bucket the fact that the game was almost 1:1 to the original when you strip away the remaster/sequel references was very disappointing. It felt masturbatory in a way I don't think the original was.

Also the Blue Door ending was butchered because the devs didn't want to license Portal and Minecraft a second time but that's beside the main point. Look up the new ending of that route to see the downgrade

>>713048551
>>713050256
>>713050630
>>713052359
>>713053005
The best parody is the one you can't tell it'd parody
;)

>>713048230
Why? I liked walking around a pretty map and looking for puzzle. There are also puzzles that are hidden in the scenery. The game would be much worse without them.

>>713048076
Celeste
It's embarrassing Super Meat Boy 3D copied the game.

>>713046348 (OP)
No

>>713046408
FPBP

>>713048076
Omori?

>>713048482
Myst is alright, but it was too short to have an impact on me. I lived Riven a lot more.

>>713048679
I know that you are joking, but I do find it amusing that Blow spent all that time writing The Witness from scratch, only to have someone make a parody with basically the same features in Unity. And I say this as someone who likes both The Witness and The Looker.

>>713046348 (OP)
Fez

>>713046348 (OP)
Can't, sorry.

>>713051708
Antichamber kickstarted my obsession with impossible and non-Euclidian spaces. It's my first favorite game.

>>713065885
daymn thats some faglord taste SON.........

>>713051708
>>713065885
I loved antechamber. Some parts were a little obtuse but hey it's a very experimental game.

>>713048076
Dohoho, you...

>>713054098
The audiologs scattered around the map are some bullshit philosophy lecture snippets. They are completely optional and there is no reward for finding them all (I don't even think that they are tracked), but the game is better if you ignore them.

>>713065928
Have a longer version of it.

Braid
Although it's nice having a mario game for if you drink or if you smoke or you just be getting fucked up

>>713065885
>>713051708
Get manifold garden if you wanna feel proper retarded

>>713066068
Check out BaBa is You if you haven't already, one of the best puzzle games IMO

>>713066143
I already have >>713066068

>>713066148
I have Baba is You as well. I played some of it, but I eventually got to a point where I couldn't progress anywhere.

>>713046348 (OP)
>filtered retards can't handle what is unironically the greatest puzzle video game ever made
you niggers are missing out

>>713066092
that shit dumb as hell mayne

>>713046348 (OP)
any kojimbo game might as well be THE definition of a pretentious game
that or david cage's movieslop

>>713066207
ok Jon

>>713066270
Cage games are way too stupid to be pretentious.

>>713046348 (OP)
>>713046348 (OP)
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>>713046348 (OP)
>all puzzle games are variations of move a block around
Why are puzzle games like this?

>>713062716
I wonder how I would have felt playing it all in one go, instead of waiting years for each act to come out.
No other game has a visual style like this, pixel-perfect vector graphics paired with non-euclidian impressionism.

>>713048685
I would have preferred if there was less puzzle solving and exploration and just a corridor of audio logs of Jonathan Blow's favorite authors. There I said it.

>>713066580
That's just how it works. Just like all action games are variations of clicking a thing

>>713066580
Not all puzzles are like th...
>moving blocks of code
oh god damn

>>713046348 (OP)
Death Stranding

>>713050670
Yes, you couldnt re-invent shit. Unless there were youtube tutorials made about it lmaoo

>>713053606
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>>713066580
Baba is wait a minute

>>713068538
>>713068538
WHATS THE DEFINITIVE VERSION OF MYST
NEVER PLAYED IT

IM GONNA GET MYST VR

>>713066580
layton games arent besides an occasional sliding puzzle

>>713067478
Wrong
You’re talking about input
I’m talking about gameplay

>>713048076
This had me think of GOODBYE WORLD immediately.
What a waste of money that was. It was clearly someone's unfinished thesis, a love letter to Gameboy Aesthetic, a meta story about developing a game and failing that was clearly taken so ironically the developer didn't finish it, so it is not a full game. IT sells itself as something else entirely, but then you play it and its a fucking puzzle game.
hella short too. Disappointing.

>>713068875
Layton games aren't puzzles, they're newspaper brain teasers

>>713046348 (OP)
Braid

>>713069034
The gameplay is shooting the guy in fps, hitting the guy in action games or commandind the guy to attack the guy/structure in strategy.

>>713046348 (OP)
>tagline of game is "explore an island and solve puzzles"
>gameplay consists of exploring and solving puzzles
>IT'S LE PRETENTIOUS BECAUSE OF A 60 SECOND CUTSCENE THAT COMES AFTER 30 HOURS OF PURE GAMEPLAY
kys retard
Blow is cringe but both of his games are ludo

I originally quit this game like many others due to it not being like Myst at all, but I tried it again about a year later with better expectations (more like a sudoku book) and ended up liking it a lot.

>>713046348 (OP)
Played a bit of this recently and the amount of nonsense dialog that means nothing and goes nowhere really made me mad.

Also, the whole thing is apparently some chink immigrant's self-insert power fantasy lmao

More like Johnathan Blow me

>>713066068
I don't know about you but "The Secret of Psalm 46" is genuinely a great talk
https://youtu.be/u0OY1RDe8Yg?si=HG-qI7SaJz-zLg0l

>>713065885
check out Lingo on steam if you like that

>>713072434
That one is, in fact, pretty good. I was talking more about the little devices you can find around the island that have people talking about God and stuff.

>>713046348 (OP)
I can't. I fucking hate this repetitive shit game.

>>713046348 (OP)
Stalney Parable
it's the same game but with a smart ass narrator commenting eveything

>>713052883
Talos Principle was too chill to feel pretentious.
Talos Principle 2 on the other hand...

>>713071283
If you play this garbage under the assumption that everything you're about to watch and hear was produced by a psychotic asian feminist who hates herself almost as much as she hates her mother, while at the same time having an ego the size of Rushmore, it becomes a masterpiece of unintentional comedy.
The first example that comes to mind happens literally 5 minutes into the game, where the playable character enters a memory-version of a school's female bathroom and, upon seeing a tissue dispenser, has a short dialogue with her small levitating AI slave (who has a voice of a young boy, as if the fact that this is a female power fantasy game wasn't obvious enough)
>"What was the purpose of this in the past?" (talking about the tissue box)
>"To prevent leaks"
>"People LEAKED back then?!"
>"Yeah, red."
Suffice it to say, I have not taken a single line of dialogue seriously from that point until the end of the game and it made my experience infinitely better.

>>713066580
Blocks has an interesting property in that they block each other. So solutions to one sub-problem complicates others

>>713063203
POV: You are a pair of fat tits.

>>713069424
girl hot and cute tho

>>713054443
/v/ wasn't here in 2004.

>>713062165
I liked that one.

>>713046348 (OP)
This War of Mine

>>713065885
Check out Button Effect demo, I think it has some legs

Been playing Everyday Genius: SquareLogic and Stephens Sausage Roll at Jon Blows rec. Anyone else play these? Enigmash is also a really fuckin good game worth mentioning

What are some kino puzzle games

>>713050868
Quern was great. I also enjoyed the Eyes of Ara. Myst-style games are so few and far between, but they're always such a treat. Maybe it's precisely because they're so niche, but with each of them, I feel an immediately connection to the creator on a human level, basically pic related.

>>713046348 (OP)
not sure if it's the most pretentious but Bioshock Infinite is pretentious in the dumbest way possible
straight up "retard thinking he's a genius" tier

>>713075165
Wait a minute that card

>>713075165
I don't think Bioshock Infinite is that pretentious if you directly compare it to something like The Witness. It just feels like Ken Levine wasn't a good enough writer to fully pull it off, so it ends up coming across as "failed writer who wanted to make a Hollywood movie with LE EPIK TWEEST".

>>713075165
The many worlds interpretation, butterfly effect and brain-in-a-vat theory form the unholy trinity of solid science inspiring retarded midwits to share their mental diarrhoea with the worlds.

Pretentious is a nothing word that was invented by academic types who needed a way to dismiss works that contradict their own opinions in cases where they can’t defend them.

>>713074851
The Talos Principle
Myst + Riven + Obduction
Quern
Baba is You
Antichamber
Outer Wilds
The RHEM series

If anyone ever recommends Blue Prince, do not listen to them. It's more like an RNG mystery game than an actual puzzle game.

>>713046348 (OP)
Stanley Parable

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>>713048076
Undertale

>>713047254
>>713048141
>>713062642
>>713065754

All correct

>>713065803
I'll say the witness loads and runs noticably better than the looker though, despite being a bigger game.

people saying the witness is pretentious are on the same level as people asking for souls easy mode

>>713046348 (OP)
Braindead shooter with laughably stupid plot, but the writers/director think they're the next Kojima and it needs 3-4 hours of awful cutscenes. That's pretension.

>>713051708
I remember playing it but I don't remember it having any dialogues...

Dear Esther. The game itself is whatever, fairly bog-standard, boring walking simulator. But the developer commentary is next-level pretentious, it's all them sucking themselves off for placing source engine assets on the map randomly. If pretentiousness describes a disparity between the perceived depth of the work by the author and the actual depth as experienced by the audience, that one easily takes the cake.

>>713075848
>I hate my (white) dad: the videogame

>>713066068
You seem like you would enjoy NaissancE

>>713046348 (OP)
Elden ring. Couldn't be fucked to tell a story, still pretends there is any meaning in the random worldbuilding giblets scattered randomly across the world.

>>713072729
Thank you.

>>713074764
I will.

>>713076147
I didn't, actually. It's a 4 hour game that felt like a 15 hour game in the worst way possible.

>>713076098
Dear Esther is a special case, because the story snippets you get vary randomly every playthrough
so in one playthrough it's about a guy going on a hike after losing a loved one in a tragic car accident then the next one it's exclusively nonsensical esoteric gobbledygook

Tie between Outer Wilds and E33

>>713046348 (OP)
Expedition 33

>>713050193
>>713050962
this anon gets it

>>713062642
maybe a bit but the segment at the cannery is genuinely great

>>713048076
Oh yeah, it's YIIK

>>713065885
>non-euclidian spaces

>>713077848
This is precisely the face I make when I encounter a non-Euclidian space in a video game.

I think people miss the forest for the trees with The Witness. It's meant to be pretentious, it's Blow either conscious or subconscious making an extremely pretentious game on purpose using sliding puzzle for a pseudo thought piece. And the best part is that it actually works in that mindset and is a fun game both because of it and in spite of it.
I don't care what anyone says, Witness is a great game.

>>713068780
That's actually perfect for a first timer with the VR equipment

>>713068780
RealMyst is great if you don't mind that "it's not the genuine version" .
It adds free-roam movement instead of clicking to where you're going and having determined camera angles.
I am not exagerating when I say that it makes some parts of the game infinitely better. The Wirewood Age is only "difficult" because you can't get a grip of the level geometry with the original movement. You have no clear frame of reference for distances and the angles when your turn are not always 90 degree so orienting yourself is harder than it needs to be. By having free-roam and being able to control your camera, you understand where you are and where everything else is.

>>713052883
>The Talos Principle
how is it pretentious, the story is literally a thought experiment with a theme

>>713046348 (OP)
Xenogears/Xenosaga

>>713073646
Hey, I liked the retarded robots c:

>>713046348 (OP)
>opens yt on his stream
>he watches his own video

>>713075814
they're maze puzzles, jon, nobody cares if they don't run at 200+fps

Genuine question : why does Braid always come up in these discussions ?
I remember it getting some disproportionate dick-sucking from journos back on release because every other journo couldn't believe an indie game like this could exist (different times y'know, the indie scene was much, much smaller so a solodev project like that getting this sort of distribution was rare) and acted like it was the smartest thing they had ever seen.
But realy it's just a puzzle-platformer and is fairly straight-forward.
>oooooh but the narrative isn't completely explicit and there's like metaphors and shiet
If you think that's "pretentious" then you're not just a moron but on the inverse side of a coin with moronic journos who thought it was genius for that reason on the other side.

>>713065838
The game is okay. You just have to block any and all memory of Philet o Fish when playing it.

>thread made me remember the twitch VOD of Blow playing Elden Ring
thanks, I needed that feeling of embarrassment to come back

Jonathan Blow is a weird fella sometimes but he's legitimately interesting to listen to in that documentary Noclip did on The Witness

>>713079832
it something to do with the ending from what I heard

>>713075526
eggsample please

>>713080586
>alyx comes out
>no vr headset
>see blow streaming
>he's stuck in a room with a crane
>staring at useless greebles on the walls trying to figure out the "wire puzzle"
>a good 15 minutes later he makes it into the crane's cab
>pulls the big red lever
>crane moves the platform into position
>he sighs and leaves

>>713046348 (OP)
>make a game about game development
>show how games are just transcribing prototype gameplay onto environments
>choose gameplay that's incredibly boring and doesn't change at all
>say "that's what all games are" as if it's something profound

I would take what people say about this game more seriously if they didn't downplay how the core experience is so fucking boring. I understand that the main appeal is the puzzles, and I enjoyed that part well enough, but once you "get it", it goes right back to "Oh these are just line puzzles" and you're bored again.

>>713046408
/thread

>>713066143
Manifold garden is fucking babby shit what the fuck are you on about?

>>713054443
I've been here since 04, and The Witness was so utterly pretentious I got bored with it after 2 hours.

>>713075814
One of them is a shitpost game. If the dev was out to make a proper game, he would've probably spend more time properly optimizing things

>>713081397
If proper devs now won't optimize their AAA games, why would a shitposter do it :^)

>>713046348 (OP)
Line Puzzle the game. Literally no need to put it on a stupid island.

>>713065684
Discovering this shit (I think this may have been the actual first one I found) was an absolute mind-blower. I can't think of another game that got me quite like this did. I'll forgive it its issues purely for that moment

>>713079832
Braid mostly gets dunked on because of Soulja Boy shitting on it in a video and the ending being some 'woah you were the bad guy all along and also the atomic bomb' shit. And even if you don't count that as being pretentious the remaster sure is by including a "puzzle" that's just an hour of waiting for a slow cloud to move. And he also had to include commentary audio tracks by him whose runtime is longer than the game actually takes to beat. And then he made sure the game is a financial disaster by having those hours of audio commentary localized into multiple languages.

>>713080997
>if they didn't downplay how the core experience is so fucking boring
I "downplay" it because I didn't find it boring. I liked walking around and solving puzzles. If that's boring to you, then this simply isn't a game for you.
t. finished The Witness twice

>>713079248
yeah, me too
I guess in a world where you have all your needs fulfilled, you'll spend all your time philosophising out your ass

>>713083031
literally read the next sentence, I love puzzles anon, that's not my problem with it

>>713083876
I've read your whole post. My point is unchanged. It is you who misunderstood the other's post, not me.

>>713083562
Nothing in this game made me happier than the daughter dying to her own dumb experiments after acting like a teen who thinks everyone is stupid except her and always asking "well why didn't they just solve all of their problems that they should have seen coming because I could have solved them all and I would have seen it coming" . Pottery. Pure pottery.

>>713082303
This guy gets it

>>713074451
I call it "spec ops: the game", as you lose by playing.

>>713085763
So I suppose the part when you get her back and the DLC with her in it wasn't to your liking?
I get it, her VA went on my nerves and her superiority complex didn't help her case.

>>713086150
Working in education really, REALLY cuts your tolerance for smug teens who think they know better.
And if the point in her writing was to make her look like an annoying (but accurate to life) little shit who thinks she's so smart because she sits on top of perfect hindsight then great job.
But the logs or Athena lamenting her death had me cheering. I like it when people who have it coming get what they've had coming.

>>713048230
ayo this nigga a line follower

Wait, why do people think Stanley is pretentious?
The whole game is a comedy skit

>>713085763
What did Miranda even do that would make you want her dead? Wasn't she and her parents just doing research?

>>713086365
>Works in educations
>Gets catharsis from a parent lamenting their child's death
Yeah, I can see why people badmouth schools these days.

>>713081874
>no need to put it on a stupid island
It's amazing how people miss the point of the game so badly.

>>713087378
It's not about "wanting her dead" , it's enjoying the poetic justice in fucking around and finding out.
>well I would have solved all these problems easily, it's so simple, they should just have known everything I know after the fact !
>look how easy it is
>oh no it all blew up in my face because as it turns out I am not that much better and I am not above messing up
It didn't help that a lot of her dialog and actions were accompanied with Athena waxing poetics about how miraculously smart her daughter is and never really pushing back other than sometimes reminding her that "back then, they didn't know all we know now" .
Once again, the father was right, but he was too late.
and come on anon, don't act as if you are a perfectly compassionnate saint who didn't get a bit annoyed at a writer's pet in fiction, or felt a bit of schadenfrude when something bad happened to a character you dislike

>>713087994
>it's enjoying the poetic justice in fucking around and finding out.
I don't remember any poetic justice. Miranda got careless during an experiment and died. I don't remember any details, but I'm pretty sure I wasn't happy about it. Although I did foresee such a twist, so I wasn't negatively affected, either. But I was happy that you get to bring her back.
>and come on anon, don't act as if you are a perfectly compassionnate saint who didn't get a bit annoyed at a writer's pet in fiction
True, but don't change the subject.

>>713087994
Also, it's not even justice if the person supposedly at fault dies instantly. They don't get to reflect on their mistakes, they are just dead. That's just dissatisfying.

>>713088375
>I don't remember any poetic justice
Considering how important the motives of "not repeating the mistakes of the past" and "being careful with the unknown" , I'd say someone repeating the mistakes of the past and not being careful with the unknown is infact like pottery, you know, it rhymes.
Yes, I know that was the point.
But I do still enjoy some deserved comeuppance.

>>713088695
I just can't be happy over someone dying while trying advance progress, even if they were foolish. I can't perceive it as "deserved".

>>713053005
to be honest i'm surprised i didn't get it either

>>713077848
Speaking off non-euclidian spaces, a new ZenoRogue video just came out.
https://youtu.be/PxnoSsjMrck

>>713079369
Oh yeah he's the quintessential smug retarded boomer who thinks he knows everything and is smarter than he is. Doesn't surprise anyone that he smells his own farts. He was the OG boomer who went to gaming conventions to tell people Braid was too deep for them because Soulja Boy made fun of his game. He's also the literal don't ask me questions if you don't know the answer because it means you're a retard.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CgdKYBqe6QA

>>713088924
It's a game, anon, it's not the end of the world and it sure got me all "well WHAT DID YOU THINK WOULD HAPPEN when all you did was refuse to listen to your parents trying to tell you you are not inherently better than the humans of the past, you just know what happened to them. You refused to listen, you refused to learn, now look at you"
One might even say
"WHEN WILL YOU LEARN... THAT YOUR ACTIONS HAVE CONSEQUENCES"

>>713046408
>>713046348 (OP)
both are good aside from the story

YIIK is always the answer
>"I thought video games could be art, they're not. They are toys for children"

>>713072729
>>713076253
I checked out Lingo. Turns out I don't like word puzzles.

>>713093146
Why?

>>713093415
There isn't really a "why". It's just not something I enjoy.

>>713093801
Alright. Thanks for clarifying.

>>713046348 (OP)
The puzzle part is pretty good.
The audiologs part, wich is like 10% of the game, is the pretentious, bad part.

>>713078675
It's full of the sort of arguments you hear from freshmen in Philosophy 102 with semantic traps and loaded questions that allow the asker to "win" against any canned response. Yes, that smugness is intentional and part of the greater narrative but when someone is high on their own cleverness it is only slightly less annoying when they are actually clever.

>>713093961
>wich is like 10% of the game
It's 5% at most. You don't need them to progress and there is no reward for finding them.

>>713046348 (OP)
Expedition 33

>>713046348 (OP)
Will I like this game if I like The Talos Principle?

Anything by those clowns at Tale of Tales.

>>713094132
5% is just the audiologs per se.
Then another 5% for the two hour movie you have to see if you want to 100% the game.

>>713092145
YIIK is the answer only if the question is "what happens when you give a philosophy undergrad a game engine and no editor?"
>“I thought video games could be art”
Every time Alex says anything, I can hear the ghost of a forum post being typed on a MacBook in a coffee shop. Genuinely impressive how a game can be both a parody and completely sincere at the same time.

I find it pretty funny that Blow basically had no one complaining about him right up until he admitted that he hated the SJW crowd ruining Berkley. (and later got an AR15 in response to the BLM riots)
That said I haven't played any games of his aside from the original Braid release back in 2008, I liked the music and backgrounds but otherwise it was mostly okay.
His programming hot-takes are great though, same with muratori's. It's just refreshing to hear people say modern programming practices are cargo cult bullshit and back it up with examples and showing how it can be done better.

>>713094721
Nobody cared because he wasn't putting his foot in his mouth yet.

>>713094886
All the stuff people whine about predate that i'm pretty sure.
It's just that he got a lot of SJW twitteroid haters after he admitted he loathed them.

>>713094528
>Genuinely impressive how a game can be both a parody and completely sincere at the same time.
That is the best desctiption of YIIK that could be written, well done, anon.

>>713075570
>Blue prince
Don't get me started.
>Finally draft a super rare room
>After looking around, finally find a hidden piece of paper
>It's literally just a shopping list with the number 2 on the top left
>If you happen to have a magnifying glass on you, you can read the tiny text that says "The prize is in a chest most dear to you, but unbearable to me."
>It's actually talking about a chest hidden inside the floor under a deer and bear bust on a wall in a completely different, equally rare room
>You also need a jack hammer, which you can only get by combining 3 rare items, to break the floor to get the chest
>Inside is another shopping list with the number 3 on the top left
>Find all the shopping lists to spell out a secret message
>It's something you learned 20 hours ago

That 2d climbing game that makes the dev read random quotes from dead people when you fail.

>>713095967
Do you mean Getting Over It? Those quotes are extremely tongue-in-cheek