They're right? For most people $500 just for 3/4 games isn't worth it
Well I hope you stop making fun of everyone once the library gets good instead of pretending like you were right all along.
>>713077880 (OP)I was not expecting them to do this, looks like journofags finally grew some balls and say how it really is
>>713078260Nintendo doesn't give them kickbacks so they take any opportunity they can to shit on them despite Nintendo having the best games
>>713078198>Worse than other home consoles because of portability gimmick>Worse than other handhelds because of the battery, so you'll just play it dockedThe absolute state
“Just get a cell phone” -IGN
Based IGN shitting into Nintendo’s cuck mouth
>>713078459>despite Nintendo having the best games
I mean, yea, you boot up to the same OS with all the same games and everything.
Barely any use of the mice. It's literally just going from iPhone 4 to iPhone 8 or whatever.
>>713078469Meanwhile... 160 million units later...
>>713078548>It's literally just going from iPhone 4 to iPhone 8 or whatever.Or PS4 to PS5. Or Xbox One X to Xbox Series X.
>>713077880 (OP)fellow Nintendo sisters... looks like the nostalgia spell is starting to wear off, how do we stop this?
I only got a switch 2 so I can mod the shit out of my switch 1 and turn it into an emulator running all the nintendo games for free.
So how long will the Switch 2 feel current before we're back into "Nintendo NEED to release a hardware upgrade" territory?
>>713078198Where is the lie tho
>>713078567I meant Switch 2 tho.
>>713077880 (OP)>videogame """journalists""" hating on nintendoIn other words, water is wet
>>713078013In a year there will be 10 games
>>713077880 (OP)>no black female protagonist as their headliner for a game>7/10Journos will never rate Nintendo higher because of this
>>713078548Thats fucking nonsense. Why are all your posts fucking nonsense
IGN gave the playstation portal an 8 btw
>>713078787Since day 1, especially a Lite and an OLED version.
Why don't you Switch 2 a real system
haha gotem
>>713078915>>In other words, water is wet>"The Nintendo Bonus don't exist guys!"
>>713079476IGN gave the switch port of Super Mario 3D World a 7/10 and Sackboy's Big Adventure 8/10
>>713079476The portal is actually comfy to hold and functions well as a handheld. The switch 2 is insanely uncomfortable in handheld which is supposed to be a big selling point for it.
>>713078848then why did you comment on a review for the switch 1?
>>713080496Is not a problem if you don't have obese hands. It's comfortable enough
>>713078535Nta but why you zooms speak in broken gross english
>>713080496The portal has no real reason to exist. Its actually sad they rate anything sony shits out so highly
>>713079787I mean, Mario 3D world was pretty shit (both versions) and Sackboy A Big Adventure was fucking awesome. So there's that.
Rating a console on launch is the most retarded thing I have ever heard of. It has like .3% of its total game library right now, and there will be many revisions that improve the console.
>>713078198>that fucking picture of the guy that screams "it insists upon itself"
>>713077880 (OP)>Switch 2 is as good as StarfieldNow can we stop pretending 7/10 is a bad score?
>>713078787>So how long will the Switch 2 feel current before we're back into "Nintendo NEED to release a hardware upgrade" territory?The only element that needs to be improved is the battery, and I'm sure they'll put out a better battery model in a year or two. The LCD is much higher quality than the switch 1 so OLED isn't that important. And power wise it's hit the point of diminishing returns where more power wont matter at all to most consumers. Most people do not give a shit if the game is 2k or 4k or 60 vs 120 fps.
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>>713077880 (OP)Unironically, thank god I didn't buy this. The original switch will be the last Nintendo console I ever buy and I own every single one released since the NES except for the virtual boy and wii u. I'm not paying for an overpriced tablet with $70 6 hour long mediocre games on it that aren't even fun to replay. What a shitty company Nintendo has become.
>>713077880 (OP)OP is fake. No source was provided and anyone can make an image and slap the IGN rating number on it.
>better than cuckdeck, gaystation and cuckbox
>7
lmao ign really lost credibility even more
>>713077880 (OP)>If if ifLol, xe sounds salty as fuck
>>713078787They have about 5 years of ports that skipped the switch 1 to catch up on and once they're exhausted the penny will drop that very few games from 2025 and beyond are showing up on the system.
Why would you rate the switch 2 right now? It literally has only one of the 70-90 exclusive games it's going to get and even that game is nowhere near complete, likely to get multiple DLC packs that will likely double the game's content and improve many features.
>>713082519>The LCD is much higher quality than the switch 1 so OLED isn't that importantI bought a 10" tablet with an AMOLED screen for $100. This is the standard now. A wide range of colors and true black is the standard. Even my 7 year old phone has a much better screen than the switch 2.
>>713078787People are already asking for OLED, but in about 1.5 to 2 years we'll be right back to full blown "Nintendo is underpowered". Companies are already starting to shift away from supporting PS4 and Xbox One and when that comes to an end, Switch 2 is going to be missing a lot of non-indie games.
>>713077880 (OP)>>713078198>Even with Nintendo bonus it’s still only a 7This has to be the worst modern console of all time.
Where the fuck are the games Nintendo?
>>713082817OLED is not "much better" than a high quality HDR LCD. In fact, LCD still has some advantages in this case because you wont find an OLED screen with VRR, HDR and 120fps. This doesn't exist right now, and when it does come around it's gonna be extremely expensive for a while. This is nothing like the switch 1 which launched with an extremely low quality 60 fps non HDR 720p LCD. While an OLED model will be a nice upgrade, it wont feel necessary to most consumers, mainly just enthusiasts.
>Nintendo should stop with the gimmicks and just make a more powerful Switch
>WTF it's just a more powerful Switch!?
>>713082970I don't know if people are joking or are just retarded. The ps5 has been out for 5 years now it barely has like 3-4 games.
>>713078013but enough about the ps5
>>713083043>>WTF it's just a more powerful Switch with no games to play now?!
>>713082901>and when that comes to an end, Switch 2 is going to be missing a lot of non-indie games.Uh, no. Switch 2 is 3tflops and can do DLSS VERY aggressively. Fast Racing is doing like 540p to 4k DLSS. The only games that may struggle to run on switch 2 are CPU limited games, of which there are like 3 so far across the entire industry. Even then, porting them is still totally doable it just requires more optimization and perhaps decreasing particle effects and amount of NPCs on screen.
>>713083070>>713083098>b-but this other shit console!mind raped
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>>713083018>OLED is not "much better" than a high quality HDR LCDNigher what, it's extremely better, which is why people demand to have it on all their touchscreen devices. Every "best" PC monitor is, without question, OLED. Why would you make such an insanely dumb reddit post?
>>713083140first console launch?
>>713077880 (OP)It's overpriced and the physical games have DRM.
>>713078459Anyone that relies on vidya 'journalism' is already NGMI.
>>713083043A more powerful gimmick console that was severally underpowered in the first place, but now the new hardware upgrade that’s as powerful as a PS4 costs $450 with $70-$80 games*
>>713083283I have an OLED steam deck. On paper, yes OLED can be a major advantage, but that's on paper. The issue is that almost no games are designed for an OLED screen, because most people don't have an OLED TV. You need true blacks and very high contrast to really appreciate the OLED screen, but developers don't bother making that kind of content because they know all the users on their LCD screens wont even see it. The only game where I noticed a big difference was Hollow Knight, specifically in the plant area, where there is a huge contrast between the true black background and the bright green plants. Aside from that I'll just notice little things here and there, but nothing that really alters the experience. Maybe some day when OLED becomes more mainstream in TVs we will see more OLED focused content but right now it isn't a big deal. LCD is the standard and that's what developers are working for.
>>713083153Do you really think something like Death Stranding 2 is something the Switch 2 will even be able to sniff at? That's an example of where the industry is going graphics wise.
I don't understand why everyone is so negative about this console. For YEARS people begged for a Switch pro, and then 2. They get exactly what they wanted, a more powerful switch, with no gimmick, yet they don't like it. You can't even call it overpriced since it has better specs than the deck OLED while being cheaper. Can someone explain this 180 in attitude?
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>>713077880 (OP)Also, besides DK Bananza, everything first-party so far is a spinoff with no word on mainline entries for any of their series yet. So unless you REALLY want to collect stickers and drive on wide courses in Mario Kart right now, or to play Switch 1 games at higher framerates and you get violently feral at the mere mention of the E-word, there's no compelling reason to get a Switch 2 right now.
t. returned my launch model after a week
>>713083098It's genuinely crazy. The PS5 has been out for 5 years, and DS2 is the only """exclusive""" game that I'm bummed out I can't play (yet)
It's Wii U all over again.
>average switch 2 enjoyer
>>713083328Switch launched with games.
>>713083665>Do you really think something like Death Stranding 2 is something the Switch 2 will even be able to sniff at? That's an example of where the industry is going graphics wise.DLSS allows them to pull off pretty much anything but full raytracing graphics wise. We've hit the point of diminishing returns there. DLSS does not help with the CPU though and that's where the switch 2 could struggle. But most games do not push the CPU. Games that do are generally open world city games with a ton of NPCs like GTA. I don't think Death Stranding 2 would be a problem, but I'm not deeply familiar with the game and don't care to look into it, since it's just a dumb walking simulator for autists.
>>713083845It had BOTW which was also on Wii U, and a few ports and shovelware
>>713083665>That's an example of where the industry is going graphics wise.god it feels good to not give a fuck about graphics
>>713083727While it is true that several of the switch 2 games are releasing on the switch 1, the gap is so massive that I don't see why anyone would want the switch 1 version. For example, Metroid prime 4 is 900p on the switch 1 but 4k on the switch 2, and on switch 2 it has lighting and texture improvements as well as support for mouse controls. Pokemon is even more extreme where the switch 1 version is basically unplayable, horrible graphics, gonna be full of lag and bugs while the switch 2 version looks like a very solid ps3 game.
>>713083727There's no compelling reason to wait either.
Nintendo isn't going to stop making mainline entries for its consoles.
In the meantime you get Mario Kart, DK, among others, and 3rd party games if you enjoy the mobile/console hybrid like I do.
>>713084071Worth noting that none of these will be on PC either unlike a certain other console.
>>713083684Majority of it is just switch vs pc console warring, the rest is just a general hatred towards nintendo, but making videos/articles about "nintendo is... LE EVIL" gets stale pretty quick because everyone knows that, so they started nitpicking every little thing about the switch 2 in a desperate attempt to hurt nintendo. That eventually grew into this semi-virtue signaling circle jerk where everyone who bought it are fanboy manchildren and everyone who didn't is based and responsible adult.
>>713084071Anon he just realized he needed to pay the rent. He'll get another one in a year anyway (for probably the same price), but people with no money have to think really in the short term when it comes to $500 purchases.
>>713083727All this information was available before release, why the fuck would you even buy it in the first place?
If anything Switch 2 has a better launch than the first one since you get access to the full Switch library, enhanced in many cases, and all of the NSO shit including gamecube off the bat. Yes there isn't much exclusive yet, but the same was true of the first switch for like the first half of its lunach year
>>713083958Apologies for my potential misunderstanding, but are you also implying GTA VI may come to the Switch 2 or are you saying that because of the way GTA VI utilizes the CPU it would be difficult to be on Switch 2?
>>713084216Those games don't count because...they just don't okay?
Launch year lineup is always really weak. The switch 2 is way better than the switch 1. ARMS and Splatoon 2 were both mediocre, 1-2 switch was utter trash, Mario Kart 8 was a port of a several years old game. It had two major new games, Odyssey and BotW and Odyssey was fun for one playthrough but doesn't really hold up. I'd much rather have Mario Kart World, DKB and Metroid Prime 4.
>>713084178It's so funny too, because between the Splatoon Raiders announcement, the DK direct, and the sales announcement, most everyone that was bitching has already stfu.
>>713084336I hope DKB will be better than Odyssey, Odyssey only shines if you complete it 100% imo
>>713084235>Apologies for my potential misunderstanding, but are you also implying GTA VI may come to the Switch 2 or are you saying that because of the way GTA VI utilizes the CPU it would be difficult to be on Switch 2?Yes, GTA 6 is one of the like 3 games that will struggle to run on the switch 2. It is absolutely still doable to port it, they would mainly have to cut the number of NPCs walking/driving around. I mean obviously they could port it since Cyberpunk is running fine. But it's one of a few games that they couldn't just drop the resolution with DLSS and call it a day.
I do think we will see GTA 6 on switch 2, just not immediately. Especially because they still haven't ported GTA V to a Nintendo console and they're not gonna leave that money on the table.
I gurarantee you if the donkey kong game was mainline 3D mario instead nobody would be complaining about Switch 2's launch year
>>713084443>I hope DKB will be better than Odyssey, Odyssey only shines if you complete it 100% imoIt obviously is. They fixed the biggest issue being the moons not doing shit so no reason to collect them. They level up your character and give you new moves in DK. I don't expect DKB to be some massive gamechanger though because I think it was probably made by a smaller offshoot team while the next 3D Mario was in development.
>>713084443If you wipe away the obligatory sandbox mario bonus that Odyssey got, I think Bananza clears it easily.
>>713077880 (OP)they gave the Xbox Series consoles an 8
like man, you gotta take into consideration the future of the console. That console launched with nothing And had nothing coming out for the next several years. Meanwhile Nintendo is pretty consistent in pumping out games every year for their console
>>713084462well most of the complaints on /v/ are disingenuous anyways so they would be complaining about something.
>>713084458Just wanted to make sure. So Death Stranding 2 and GTA VI are both doable on the Switch 2?
>>713084634Why are you using PC games for console warring?
>>713084462You're right but that's not the reality we're living in. It's even worse when you realize that they're apeing God of War with the gruff main character + kid dynamic and it has talent trees, equipment with stats, and the 3 rages like GoW does.
They added the BotW gliding because apparently every game needs BotW gliding now. Mainline Mario will hopefully never fall that far.
>>713084178>Majority of it is just switch vs pc console warringThat's such a retarded war to have.
PC + whatever the newest Nintendo console is, has been the best situation for a gamer to be in for a long time.
>>713084634Yes but my point was that Death Stranding 2 will be extremely easy to port whereas GTA 6 will take significant effort on the part of Rock Star due to the large number of NPCs pushing the CPU. The switch 2 has a shockingly powerful GPU for a handheld console but the CPU is very weak. This doesn't matter for most games but will in a handful of games that have a ton of NPCs. it's obvious why Nintendo designed the console this way, because none of their games push the CPU, so why would they care about it?
>>713077880 (OP)What did they give the PS5?
>>713083490>Maybe some day when OLED becomes more mainstream in TVs we will see more OLED focused content but right now it isn't a big dealThe switch is a handheld, anon. It's competing with phones, not consoles. And old games are designed for CRTs, and a significant amount of the switch 2s library will once again just be a rom collection of games that look and run worse on the switch than they do on a 30 year old console somehow. And many big games are designed with true blacks in mind, for example from soft games. Dark Souls looked like shit on the switch.
>>713084659Death Stranding 2 is coming to PC I believe, but GTA VI doesn't even have a PC version announced (although it's implied). I was asking questions for clarity so I could understand how strong Switch 2 is believed to be.
>>713078915>In a year there will be 10 gamesSo why not buy them in a year when its actually worth buying? Youre a faggot who falls for fomo and dont even have the balls to admit it. Well you probably cut them off like the tendie tranny you are.
>>713083684Because people weren't accounting for $80 games, $90 controllers that still use the same poorly quality-controller potentiometer based sticks as last generation, a lack of even ANNOUNCED compelling new first-party software (baffling for how fucking long they took to start the generation), games that don't do anything to show a palpable upgrade over Switch 1 besides framerates (since the currently known games with gameplay blatantly started on the Switch 1), or for Nintendo to use the Switch 2 upgrades to ensure that Switch 1 games will continue to never go down in price.
>>713084101See, it's a really terrible sign when fanboys are already resorting to the "just have faith and buy it dammit" angle.
>>713084204Honestly, I thought I might flip it for a small profit after getting my fill since I knew there wasn't much to be excited for yet. Worst case scenario, I'm just getting my money back.
>>713084821>The switch is a handheld, anon. It's competing with phones, not consoles.Retard
>all sold out around me
I hope getting a Switch 2 won't be a pain before the new DK releases
>>713084395They didn't, they just stopped being as public about it as before release. Anti switch 2 videos still get made daily and you can see the exact same circle jerking behaviour with the exact same talking points they've been pedaling for months now.
>>713083827Nahhh more like picrel
>>713084836>I was asking questions for clarity so I could understand how strong Switch 2 is believed to be.If you're curious about that, averaging out the parts the Switch 2 is roughly 40% of a PS5. But unoptimized third party games could perform significantly worse than that while Nintendo's own first party games could perform even better. Cyberpunk appears to be pretty decently optimized and that's where it appears to be landing.
>>713084858Nintendo announced they are dropping out of the console race last gen. It's not a true console. It's a crappy phone.
>>713084190I love how you fags go with the "le richfag" defense for a fucking Nintendo console, but then will also balk at PC part prices.
>>713084795Ok got it. Thanks for explaining anon.
>>713084795NTA but most difficult to run games are CPU bound now because they're open world(and everyone is making those), that's why the other consoles are currently struggling with games so hard because they skimped on the CPU too, the CPU bottlenecks are causing PC gamers to have to upgrade too. The weak CPU will be the limiting factor of the Switch 2 and why we see current gen and next gen games skip it
>The Nintendo Switch 2's CPU, an ARM Cortex-A78C, is roughly equivalent to a 10-year-old laptop i7 or a Snapdragon 855/Apple A12
>>713084760That's not how it works in their minds, some people genuinely can't comprehend why people would opt to choose both instead of dickriding the one option they like the most.
>>713084879Yes, they're all OoTsnoys and Cubesnoys in a conspiracy out to get Nintendo, led by Eric and ACfag. I believe that's the narrative here, yes?
>>713077880 (OP)Is that the guy who was mad for not getting a freebie?
>>713085349I don't know what's the narrative here, i'm just stating what's happening outside of this website, specifically on youtube.
I can't even buy one since they're sold out everywhere! I have a coupon for tradein credits for my Switch 1 and want to upgrade for a flight I have coming up soon
>>713078787When is Legends Z releasing? Because probably then because of that good old GameFreak magic.
>>713084853>See, it's a really terrible sign when fanboys are already resorting to the "just have faith and buy it dammit" angle.Thats not the angle, its your flimsy strawman of the angle.
The Zeldas, Marios and Metroids will come. Thats not up for debate by any rational person. Until then, the games they do have are fun to play.
By waiting until the next Zelda you are still going to buy a $500 dollar console, but miss out on the various good games that come out in the meantime. There's no incentive there unless you need that $500 for something right now.
I'm not the biggest Mario Kart fan. But it is fun to play a match or two at night in bed before I go to sleep. So why wait if I'm going to play the game now?
>>713078787I give it about two or three years. The new Zelda game will inevitably be 30fps and below native 1080p, then /v/ will go back to W-W-WHO CAAAARES ABOUT RESOLUTION AND FRAMERATE mode.
>>713083684Its mostly shitposters anon.
I asked for a switch pro and am prefecty happy to now own one.
>>713086482You are full of shit.
>>713077880 (OP)Yeah, I agree with that after playing on it a bit.
Its fine, nothing crazy, and that makes the price hike seem that much worse.
>>713078198I fucking hate IGN, but if anything, that review is overly generous to the Switch. The compromises taken to produce a hybrid console are a bit frustrating, and the joycon have always been shit.
>>713077880 (OP)How is this not a fair assessment of the hardware?
>>713086437>that's not up for debateI remember hearing these assurances early on for the WiiU.
Nintendofags live in an alternate reality where they get shitty downgraded ports of a small minority of AAA blockbusters 5 years after everyone else, and first party games that are toddler bing bing wahoos. It's fascinating when you get one outside the bubble to see what gaming can actually be.
>>713086893>How is this not a fair assessment of the hardware?They're not hailing it as the third coming of Jesus (the second obviously being the Switch 1) so they're enemies of the state. They're also stinky poor doodooheads upset that they don't get prerelease hardware or games anymore... but whatever you do, DON'T take that as an admission that a Nintendo Bonus existed before now!
>>713086893>How is this not a fair assessment of the hardware?The hardware is not the important part of a console, the software is, and you cant judge software 2 weeks in. Give it at least 2-3 years before you rate the console because otherwise you're gonna end up looking like a clown.
>>713087092The hardware runs the software. The hardware literally represents the POTENTIAL of the console's future software.
>>713087092But the image appears to be a simple review of the hardware, and a 7/10 seems fair to me.
It's a 499 + 80 Mariokart machine, with most of the tracks being ports from the mobile game.
>>713077880 (OP)So it’s a 5-6 without the Nintendo Bonus.
>>713086963>but what about the absolute worst case situation...Even the "worst case" for Nintendo is enough to justify the console.
BOTW, Tropical Freeze, Pikmin 3, Mario 3D World, Super Mario Bros U, Xenoblade X, Splatoon, as well as your Kart Party Smash games.
>>713087528Oh my god you're right, this is worse.
>>713083953Monkey world banana
Car driving area 9
Everything Computer 20seventy7
Plumber simulator 9000
>>713087528Anyone who lists those games with any sense of pride is insane. I was able to set up a Switch emulator last week and went through some "top ... Switch games" lists and lo and behold it's the same fucking games: Mario, Zelda:BOTW/TOTK and other games mainly targeted at children. Nintendo better pray to third-party developers this generation or it really is going to be a Wii U situation again.
>>713086437>By waiting until the next Zelda you are still going to buy a $500 dollar console, but miss out on the various good games that come out in the meantimeA person won’t be “missing out” because they don’t care about those games, they care about Zelda. If they did they’d buy, but they don’t, so they won’t
>>713090024NOOOO YOU'RE OBLIGATED TO BE JUST AS EXCITED FOR BOTW MUSOU 2 AND SPLATOON RAIDERS AS YOU ARE FOR ACTUAL ZELDA
>>713087713>>713089659And people think retarded snoys don't polute the board.
Just look at these fucking cockroaches
Cry more, faggots.
>>713090024that anon you're replying to is dumb because a revision could happen that's way better than the v1(which happened with the switch 1 with the mariko) and the games will be cheaper if you wait. you can buy them used or for a bit of a discount on sale.
waiting is the right play for sure, especially w/ how awful the battery life is for handheld mode in the current model.
>>713090141>the snoys are everywhere and everyone, they're out to get me>c-c-cry more
>>713077880 (OP)>Expensive console>Expensive games>Expensive sd cards>Killing physical with game key cards>No games only one mario and donkey kong>More anti consumer moves Pretty much not worth shit.
>>713090336Yeah even a 7 is too generous, shit is a 3 at best
The thing that gets me is how shockingly underbaked the Switch 2 ecosystem feels so far, considering fucking long it took to come out.
Is nintendo bonus the biggest cope created in this board?
>>713090604it definitely was a thing in the past but people are starting to wake up from nintendo's nostalgia spell
>>713090219This. The main reason (aside from FOMO) to care about launch consoles is the potential for easier exploits, but it's likely that you'll still have an opportunity to buy an exploitable unit after discovery. Barring that, used consoles will be all over the place in a couple of years. I think it only makes sense to buy a Switch 2 right now if you are serious about playing one of the currently available games online.
>>713090604No, "there's a sinister cabal all conspiring to give Nintendo low scores just because they don't get early review units anymore" is the biggest cope. Especially when anons still try to marry it with "oh but there still totally wasn't a bonus when Nintendo WAS giving them early units and getting better scores".
>>713083827It's true, I also have a cute black wife.
IGN has been posting nothing but rage bait for years now
>>713077880 (OP)>No games>Physical cartridges for download-only games>Poor value hardware>LCD screenBackwards compatibility is its only saving grace. 3/10