Thread 713088379

Why aren't people buying 3rd party games on Switch 2? They're flopping hard compared to 1st party.

Cause Nintendo only do well thanks to exclusives take them away and no one would use em outside of the cult.

>>713088379 (OP)
People probably already own them on more powerful consoles.

Have you looked at the third party line up?

Game Key Card.
The three words that trigger the nintenyearsload.

>Don't put your game on cart
>Be surprised no one buys it

???

>>713088379 (OP)
There were 3rd party games other than Cyberpunk?
Where?

>>713088379 (OP)
Because surprise surprise, people like physical games still, not key card dogshit, which is the worst aspects between physical and digital combined into one. Fucking LOOK at this shit.

>>713088379 (OP)
Game Key Card
I was going to buy Raidou and saw that crap, I 180°.

This is 100% on the publishers not Nintendo.

>>713088379 (OP)
Is this the new shitposting attempt? I've seen 3 variations of this in the last hour

>Switch 2 is gonna flop
>Switch 2 did flop
>Okay, it didn't but Mario Kart will flop
>Mario Kart did flop
>Okay it didn't, but third parties will flop!

>All ports for 2-5 years old games
>run at ps4 level
:O

>>713089063
>>713089064
>Because surprise surprise, people like physical games still, not key card dogshit

>>713088379 (OP)
Maybe they shouldn't have bumped the price to 80€ out of the blue on a kid's console.

>>713089063
PSH...PSSSSSH.

>>713089068
They're trolls they don't care if it flops or not they get to make threads either way.

Not buying game key card games

>>713089136
He said people not god's chosen.

>>713089063
>>713089064
My comptuer hasn't had a CD drive in more than a decade. I owned 1 physical game for my Switch 1 and more than a dozen digital. 3DS and PS4 similar numbers.

>>713089141
Is there even a single 3rd party $80 game out?

>>713089136
steamsharts aren’t people

>>713089136
this is such a stupid comparison
people like steam despite it being digital, not because of it
mainly because it's a) convenient and b) cheap
game key carts are basically the worst of both worlds

>>713088379 (OP)
physical gods do nothing. Just don't buy. DO NOTHING, continue DOING NOTHING.

>>713089386
Not sure why they're trying to insert themselves when they're not relevant to the Nintendo ecosystem

>>713088379 (OP)
>"Why aren't people buying 3rd party games on Switch 2?"
>it's literally 60/40

Better luck with next schizo shitpost thread.

>>713088379 (OP)
Gay Key Turds
It's over.

>>713089136
Steamies are retards.
Tendies are high IQ
cope

>>713088379 (OP)
>Game key cards flopping
The Switch 2 library could actually be saved by this in the long run. There is fucking hope now
>>713089136
Anon, why would you ever buy a key card? It has a box and takes up space but you still have to download it. At that point you may as well get it off the EShop or Steam.

>>713089494
>continue DOING NOTHING.
I did nothing and won.

>>713088379 (OP)
It's mostly games people already own on other platforms.

>>713088379 (OP)
>pull the most anti-consumer behavior the games industry has ever seen
>pay shills to damage control it on forums and social media
>surprised consumers don't consume
>shills only made their product seem unappealing

fyi the same arguments you've seen here you can find on a dozen other websites. Very organic, Nintendo.

It has nothing to do with lack of physical copies, 3rd party multiplatform games always flop on Nintendo consoles because they're always the worst way to play them. Why would you play cyberpunk with 2 npcs on the screen at 360p upscaled when anyone's pc has been able to run this game for 6 years already. People only buy Nintendo "hardware" because they force you to to play their games.

>>713089434
>a) convenient
getting locked out of computer, because Valve feels like it is convenient?
>and b) cheap
Valve is price fixing.
>it's cheap to pay as much as a physical cope is, for no ownership

Third parties usually do pretty mediocre to bad on Nintendo's hardware. People buy it for Nintendo's games, why would they buy a 10 year old game like Yakuza 0 which is $4 elsewhere for $50 on the Switch 2? That's one hell of a portable tax. You have to be a huge RGGcuck or just have not owned any console not released by Nintendo for the past decade for that to be appealing.

>>713088379 (OP)
The problem with Switch 2 third party games is that you'll always be buying a game released later than on other consoles at a higher price to play it in perhaps its worst rendition (lowest framerate, compromised graphics). The Switch 2, despite being a much better console compared to the PS5 than the Switch was compared to the PS4, still suffers from this problem.

No shit you're struggling to sell C2077 for $80 when most people played it a couple of years ago, or you can buy it on other platforms for $30-40.

>>713089680
>pull the most anti-consumer behavior the games industry has ever seen

They're literally letting Switch 2 owners share games for Switch 1 owners for free.

Why aren't Sony and Xbox doing that?

>>713089704
>it...it's normal
is this the latest cope?

>>713088379 (OP)
>$70 for old ports
I wonder why.

>>713089656
can still resell it. Not the case for digitally downloaded "license"

>>713088379 (OP)
Keycards are going to backfire, but instead of Nintendo realizing its the problem, they will just double down on digital instead.

>>713089662
this monk meme is so funny to me

>Tendies only buy Nintendo games

The Wii U already proved that no one buys a Nintendo console to play anything other than Nintendo games. That's why they don't bother to compete in the AAA industry, they know their games will sell on the console people bought specifically to play their games. This isn't news, OP.

>>713089797
>No shit you're struggling to sell C2077

But they're not struggling to sell it. Can you even fucking read you imbecile?

>>713089803
Nintendo actually locked that down.
Before that lock down, people were able to play 1 digital copy on 2 Shitches together ONLINE.
that's impossible now, because Sloptendo locks it down.

The actual answer isn't muh game key card, it's because nobody is itching to play shit like hitman or harry potter on a relatively lower end system.
Idiorts who care have already played them and Nintendo onlys simply don't care.

>>713088379 (OP)
Because I buy those games on my PS5 instead.

>>713089813
What fucking cope, even persona 5 bombed on the switch with the smash cameo, so much so they're not putting any more persona games on Nintendo consoles

>>713089736
>getting locked out of computer
unless your account is shady, you only have to 2fa the first time you log in
I've been offline for moths and it still lets me go online without even asking
>Valve is price fixing
promos motherfucker
nintendo games never go on sale and in fact rise to astronomical levels in the aftermarket
steam games are 50% off after a few months

>>713089874
I played Call of Duty on the Wii U.
It was a good experience.
I also played AssCreed 3+4 on the Wii U.
Thanks to the 2nd screen, you are able to put all the shit onto the 2nd screen and have a map accessible all the time.
this made the god damn slop of a game finally work well.

>>713089319
>Is there even a single 3rd party $80 game out?
In euros it's 10 units over the US price, it would be 70$ in the US, but yeah, cybershit 2077 is 80€ here.
And yes, if you're wondering, that's over 90$ at current change.

>>713089803
>family share is a new thing

>>713089887
You didn't answer my question.

>>713088379 (OP)
Why would I play inferior games when I get access to sovlful Nintendo games?

>>713089880
It's the 'best selling' third party title, but they won't even announce the numbers lol you're living in delulu land.

>>713089803
It's less cool once you realize that the Switch 1 has to stream the game from your Switch 2 so you can't do it if you're not by Wifi and the Switch 1 player has to deal with playing a streamed version of the game.

>>713089964
persona sucks though.

>>713089068
Switch 2 flopped, 3rd party support is dead.
We are feasting!

>>713089136
Steam isn't pretending to be physical.

>>713088379 (OP)
Is there a single new release or is it all bad ports?

>>713090051
>streaming
If it's not running natively, why bother?

>>713089891
People are willing to buy Switch 1 games even if they're inferior to "muh 3 million lifetime sales PC handhelds". They're not physical this time, so they're suffering. Based, buckbreaking the game key card scheme in the first month. Do not try this stunt again 3rd parties.

>>713088379 (OP)
Donkey Kong Shillnanza is 80 bucks and if you are saving for that, buying FF7 Remake a game that was on PS4 fucking 5 years ago is not in the cards. The reality is that Nintendofags aren’t hand held fags. If they were they’d get a Steam Deck. They buy this shit to play Bing Bing at 60fps.

>>713090085
Steam-slop is pretending to be better than thievery, while in reality it's not. It's fucking customers into their asses.

>>713089704
this is very easy to disprove because third party games did very well on switch, the witcher 3 sold well and cp2077 is selling well too

>>713089992
The fact that cyberpunk is the most successful 3rd party game despite being so objectively bad in value is what really makes me think key cards are why no one is buying.

>>713090047
>they're struggling to sell CP77
>it's the best selling game on the system after Mario Kart, which has already sold 1 million

KEK seethe harder schizo and buckle in, because you're in for yet another generation Nintendo ass rape.

>>713088379 (OP)
I downloaded Thank Goodness You're Here, and forgot that Nintendo don't let you refund at all.
So I'll go back to buying third party games on Steam.

>>713088379 (OP)
>Best selling games are non-keycards
Really makes you think.

>>713090251
CP77 is shit, so it makes sense.
only slop-enjoyers got that piece of crap.

>>713090238
>The fact that cyberpunk is the most successful 3rd party game despite being so objectively bad in value

Literally has the entire 2.0 upgrade AND the Phantom Liberty expansion.
Can play it on vacation.
Runs better than some current gen systems

Kek you need to seethe harder kiddo my cup is empty.

>>713089136
gabengoblins are not people

>>713090364
>look, my woke dog turd got an upgrade

The best selling 3rd party game on Switch 2 is a physical game, CyberPunk 2077. While the rest are crying their game key card DRM dogshit digital poop are dying. BASED BASED BASED!

>>713090251
and third place is an upgrade pack for TOTK

do you think your argument meant something? it actually shows shit adoption rates for switch 2 software.

>>713090364
>Runs better than some current gen systems
it runs worse than even the xbox series s, what current gen system are you talking about?

>>713090340
Nah Cyberpunk is easily one of the best single player games of the generation, by mile.

I'm glad Nintenbros can now enjoy this masterpiece. They even have improved controls with 1:1 sword fighting and gyro/mouse aiming.

Gotta admit I'm a little jealous.

>>713090153
That's how it used to work on the DS, it's probably because the filesizes are so big now but having to play a streamed version of the game is some real cuckshit and if you have to be by wifi to play it anyway then why not just have the download be upfront?

I wouldn't be surprised if they were terrified of someone figuring out how to enable piracy by exploiting a system like that so they just gimped the fuck out of it.

>>713089803
They have had this since the 360 and PS3. You don't need to tell us you only play Nintendo.

>>713089136
don't remind me how steamies killed physical PC games

No one buys a Nintendo console to play third parties. Simple as that. Also a large portion probably own these games on other platforms already anyways.

>>713090647
Third parties shouldn't publish on Nintendo. Just not worth it.

>>713088379 (OP)
>Want to play multiplats
>Spend $450 on a console as powerful as a PS4
vs
>Spend $350 to $400 on a PS5 and is more powerful than a PS4
vs
>Spend $300 to $430 on an Xbox Series S and is more powerful than a PS4
vs
>Spend varying amounts of money, usually around $600 to $700 on a PC that can play vast majority of games through Steam or emulation, play with any controller, is extremely customizable, and is also a PC which means you can use it for more than just games and you likely already own one right now anyways
hmmmmm I wonder why

>>713090080
Can’t tell if bait or actually retarded

>>713090364
>2 hours of battery life
>make up scenarios as a plus which are almost never relevant as no one is going to play video games on vacation especially not lugging around a massive brick that doesn't fit in anything but a backpack
I wish this handheld gimmick would die already

>>713089136
Steam games sell like crap though especially at full price.

>>713088379 (OP)
Because they are fucking download only games that are like fucking 100 GB
t. PS4/PC/Switch user

Ahem if your game isn't physical on Switch 2, SHALL NOT BE BUYING. I have betting money SquareEnix and IO Interactive (Hitman) are crying the most about their games not selling. Should've done a physical release, sweeties!

>>713090714
vs
>spend $100 on a PS4 with all the games that the Shitch has except brrrmmmm brrrrmmmm wahoo
not even $300 spent

and you own them all on physical disc

>>713089063
>Because surprise surprise, people like physical games still,

>>713088379 (OP)
>Why are they flopping?
Game Key Card's

>>713089063
More importantly THESE ARE ALL OLD AS FUCK PORTS AND LIKELY WAY OVER PRICE

>>713088379 (OP)
>"very low numbers"
>Games on keycards are either niche games like Shine Post or ports of rather old games
Wait until some of the newer games present in the pic of >>713089063 are made available in Japan like the Dragon Quest 1+2 HD or Daemon x Machina.
A vocal minority of gaijins is desperately trying to pain the game key cards as "anti-consumer" or "not physical" lmao
>>713090647
>No one buys a Nintendo console to play third parties. Simple as that.
lol

>>713090792
>2 hours of battery life

You can buy a $2000 gaming laptop and get 2.5 hours I guess. Or 20 mins on your $1000 mobile.

>>713090926
Hi digital cock sucker and disingenuous motherfucker! Did you know that "revenue" for digital when compared to physical is accounting for DLC, micro transactions, and gacha gambling retards? And now you know! The actual core of physical and digital are much closer than what the digital cocksucker and gaslighters like you like to portray.

Candy Crush microtransactions and turd worlders playing gambling Chinese apps like Genshit is not the future of games, lol. Oh and everyone, he knows he's lying, but he's trying to be sly.

>>713089136
The amount of seethe this post generated is hilarious. Look at those people trying to make up excuses how “it’s not the same thing and it’s okay because it’s steam.” Fanboys are dumb.

>>713088379 (OP)
game keycards btfo

>>713091028
soon shills like yourself will kill themselves.

Is this the Switch 2 schizo cope thread?

>Why does the least powerful of the current devices sell the least 3rd party games.
Hmmmm. Now that's a chin-scratching big think.

shitch 2 has no games, that's why.

>>713088379 (OP)
Everyone here is blaming key carts but what third party releases on Switch 2 are even worth buying, do you really want that FF7 remake from 5 years ago? or Street Fighter from 2 years ago, it's all lazy ports of games that are heavily discounted on every other platform, Third parties already know that Nintendo users value exclusives yet not a single one of them even bothered with a timed exclusive, Monster Hunter rise is the Switch's best selling third party release, with most of it's sales coming during it's timed exclusivity, the fact that not another third party decided to make a big budget timed exclusive but demands the sales of one shows how out of touch third parties are with Nintendo hardware and the people that buy games on them.

Um guys I work for Ubisoft (you need to be comfortable not owning your games) and DID YOU KNOW that if you added up microtransactions, Gacha Casino phone players, and Minesweeper Mobile Extreme BATTLE PASS that it outsells physical games? Fucking checkmate physical tards! Please buy GamePass now and Ubisoft Plus and microtransactions! Revenue chart goes up!

God you fucking snakes. The only place that believes this retarded disingenuous argument that digital is killing physical by revenue are third worlders still paying 10 dollars at supermarket for GENSHIT GAMBLING SOUTH KOREAN MMO BATTLE PASS. Addicts.

>>713089063
>Bravely default
Fuck ugly ass square enix games
>Dragon quest
Fuck ugly ass toriyama games
>Madden
Fuck sportsball
>Shine post
Fuck idolshit
>Sonic x shadow
Sonic hasn't been good since adventure 2
>Star wars outlaws
Fuck ugly ass games
>Street fighter
Fuck ugly ass games and fuck fighting games
>Farming simulator
Better on PC
>Hitman
Fuck boring western slop with old bald men
>Hogwarts legacy
Fuck fake westoid magic
>Suikoden
Already have the PS/PS2 games physical
>Kunitsugami
Fuck ugly ass games
>Survivor kids
Fuck ugly ass games and the GBC version is better
>Wildhearts
Fuck ugly monster hunter clones
>Yakuza 0
Fuck sausage fest games
>AI
Fuck tranny games
>Dynasty warriors
Fuck musou
>Puyopuyo tetris
Tetris 99 is better
>Raidou
Have the physical PS2 game
>Ys9
Have it on PC
>Disgaea 7
Fuck chuuni shit like that. Disgaea? More like disGAYa
>Keycard games
Even if i got all of those games, just 5 of them will fill up the entirety of the disk space the switch 2 shipped with

Get me a new neptunia and senran kagura game that isn't a keycard game and ill buy it.

>>713088379 (OP)
More 3rd party games were sold on Switch 2's launch than on PS5's

Switch 2 launch
>06./00. [NS2] Rune Factory: Guardians of Azuma - Nintendo Switch 2 Edition (Marvelous) {2025.06.05} (¥7.980) - 10.877 / NEW
>09./00. [NS2] Yakuza 0: Director's Cut (Sega) {2025.06.05} (¥5.400) - 7.486 / NEW
>15./00. [NS2] Street Fighter 6: Years 1-2 Fighters Edition (Capcom) {2025.06.05} (¥7.990) - 5.350 / NEW
>16./00. [NS2] Bravely Default: Flying Fairy HD Remaster (Square Enix) {2025.06.05} (¥4.500) - 4.963 / NEW
>17./00. [NS2] Cyberpunk 2077: Ultimate Edition (Spike Chunsoft) {2025.06.05} (¥8.480) - 4.070 / NEW
>18./00. [NS2] Shine Post: Be Your Idol! (Konami) {2025.06.05} (¥8.000) - 3.727 / NEW
>20./00. [NS2] Puyo Puyo Tetris 2S (Sega) {2025.06.05} (¥4.990) - 3.485 / NEW
Total: 39.968

PS5 launch
>19./00. [PS5] Call of Duty: Black Ops - Cold War (Sony Interactive Entertainment) {2020.11.13} (¥8.800) - 6.045 / NEW
>21./00. [PS5] Godfall # (Playism) {2020.11.12} (¥7.900) - 5.342 / NEW
>25./00. [PS5] Assassin's Creed: Valhalla # (Ubisoft) {2020.11.12} (¥8.400) - 4.227 / NEW
Total: 15.614

>>713088379 (OP)
because they're OLD games that people already own, if i already played them and have them on a different device im not gonna buy them again

>>713089063
>Because surprise surprise, nintendo enthusiasts like physical games still
ftfy
the average consumer dont give a shit and also didnt buy a switch 2 at launch

>>713090015
you didn't contend with the original point, just deferred to another feature, which was also a degradation from family share

>>713088379 (OP)
We need to know who's 3rd because right now, out of 26 games of which only 5 weren't gamekeys, 2 of those 5 games are the top 2.
Surely there's no link between those facts.

>>713091219
Kek holy fucking seething. Literally every major 3rd party game gen will get a Switch 2 port. And you will shit yourself as Nintendo continues to dominate.

>>713091389
I just found a study that around 10.000 Japanese people are mentally retarded.

>>713091475
>still does answer the question

>>713088379 (OP)
>don't out the games on the cart
>even tendies declaring they will refuse to buy any keycard games
>wtf why is cyberpunk, the one major third party release fully on cart the only one that's selling???
total third party death

>>713091389
>jap shovelware
Lmao.

I have 80 physical Switch 1 games. I rather watch paint dry than buy even one single Switch 2 game key card. Up yours faggots.

>>713091181
Thanks doc

>>713088379 (OP)
>3rd party switch games
What games?

>>713089136
>steam out of nowhere
buckbroken

i'm not buying game key cards

>>713088379 (OP)
>They're flopping hard compared to 1st party.
To be fair, nearly anything can look like a flop if you compare it to Nintendo's A-list games.

>>713091219
Even then a good chunk of backported games did well on the switch even if downgraded, so you’d expect the same with the switch 2 but they’re flopping instead. Could be the popularity of PC and since everyone has one that’s where they’re playing their big games now. Very well could see these devs deem switch 2 not a viable market if their games don’t sell on it anymore

>>713090281
It's more the case that the best selling games are first party which haven't used the game key card format

>>713091135
The only online fags killing themselves (or becoming even more deranged that the world doesn't follow their mantra) are either
>the ones with a Nintendo derangement syndrome
>obnoxious physical fags

>>713091732
Cyberpunk 2077 is doing fairly reasonable well as the biggest 3rd party seller on the platform. And shockingly, I know, it has the complete game on the cartridge. Sure it'll get better over time with patches, but that's 64GB you don't have to sacrifice on your console hard drive space or redownload. And you can sell it or lend it.

>>713088379 (OP)
I'm never EVER gonna buy a game key-card, and buying digital on console is for retards. Either release the full game on cart or don't even release it, publisher penny pinching is finally catching up to them and I'm glad everyone is collectively telling them to fuck off

>>713091830
That version of cyberpunk is probably the best console version of the game and it has all the content in the card.
Also cdpr did some marketing for it which probably helped a lot.

>>713091028
>A vocal minority of gaijins is desperately trying to pain the game key cards as "anti-consumer" or "not physical" lmao
They objectively aren't physical, even Crapcom counts key cards with their digital version sales. If I can't pop the cart in and start playing it immediately then its not a real physical version, simple as. Actual retards like (you) are genuinely claiming that a card that requires a full download from the internet (not even offline from the card itself) is a real physical version, that's the real laugh worthy thing here.

>>713089136
>>713089319
>Steam
>computer
We're talking about consoles here, Nintendo ones especially.

>>713091028
>wait until Dragon Quest 1+2 HD
Buying the switch 1 version because it actually has the game on the cart

>>713091762
...And Cyberpunk, which is one of the only true physical games.

>>713091830
and has all the patches that didn't even make it to the PS4 version.

>>713089063
Ironically the only games I pre ordered and buy on Switch 2 are games with games all on one card. Ruin Factory should be here too. Why would I buy an extra step for playing a game instead of just buying it outright digitally? One of the reasons I didn't upgrade to Sonic Generations switch 2 edition besides the bullshit with no upgrade was because game keys are worthless.

>>713088379 (OP)
>release no physical games on nintendo platform
>sales on that platform dry up
>one of the few physical games sold the best
there's a lesson to be learned here
you just gotta eat the cost if you want the sales

>>713091823
>you are obnoxious for wanting to own games
it's funny, because collectors are the ones buying hundreds of Shitch games.
not anymore, shill lel

>>713091575
I'll answer your question when you stop deflecting and contend with the actual point

I would imagine it's because they're so ridiculously fucking expensive. After buying the console, Mario Kart, and a controller, that's already a massive investment, and games on the system are all higher price than before.
I think once more people have the system that attach rates will rise. Wallets just need to cool down a little first.

>>713092031
Watch these retarded companies take the completely wrong takeaway here and they stop releasing anything on the Switch 2 at all, digital or otherwise. Cyberpuke 24/7 selling the best out of any of these third party games should hopefully give them the hint.

>>713089136
imagine if you had to go to the store and buy a fake cd that you then insert into your computer before you were allowed to download your steam game

>>713092172
that would be based, fuck these ahoes
and fuck nintendo too lol

>>713091369
Based video game god

>>713088379 (OP)
>Why aren't people buying 3rd party games on Switch 2?
Why would you buy it on the Switch? Are you retarded?

>>713092251
>Why would you buy it on the Switch?
The thread is about the Switch 2, anon.

>>713091830
>And you can sell it or lend it.
You can do it with game key cards too
>>713091945
>Actual retards like (you) are genuinely claiming that a card that requires a full download from the internet (not even offline from the card itself) is a real physical version, that's the real laugh worthy thing here.
They're still a real physical version in addition you still own a copy of the game.
The sole retards are gaijins complaining about them by also imagining doomsday scenarios. I can't wait to see these invididuals mindbroken when they become more popular despite their pitiful attempts at misinformation

>>713088379 (OP)
https://youtu.be/JPdZNCgIDek

>>713089068
Please understand, Eric is livid at the fact Stellar Blade is coming to Switch 2 so he has to use anything he can to change the narrative

>>713092026
hello anon, I'm trying to nofap so stop posting this character thanks

>>713088379 (OP)
You're paying full price for an inferior experience. If you only care about "portability", then why didn't you just buy a deck or any of the other handheld PC alternatives?

>>713089136
Troondies? Our response?

>>713091028
That graph shows they are past the plateau and into decline.

>>713088836
Have you looked at the first party line up?

>>713089063
Least half the titles on that bottom row has no excuse being on a key card.

>>713091934
>That version of cyberpunk is probably the best console version of the game
It runs worse than the Series S, let alone the Series X and PS5 and it had the NPC density turned down. It's ONLY better than the last gen consoles but the current gen started in 2020 so that's not good. It's the worst way to play Cyberpunk on modern hardware.

>>713092314
>The sole retards are gaijins
Not a single key card got into the top 10 this week, they're flopping in Nippon as well (thank God) See: >>713082702 You lost bigly, key card tranny.

>>713091074
>Candy Crush microtransactions and turd worlders playing gambling Chinese apps like Genshit is not the future of games, lol

>>713092419
steam isn't relevant to the Nintendo platform

>>713092663
Is this supposed to be an "own"? AAA game developing isn't going to mobiles and no one is building their new IPs based around smartphones. There are a bunch of retards who pay for battle passes and casinos on phones, what of it? Tons of retards buy from Chinese counterfeit websites like the BIOS re-flashed GPUs market on Teimos or whatever Alixpress is called.

>>713092251
are you retarded? if they're selling below expectations those expectations almost certainly are based on how they sold on switch in it's early days

>>713089136
PC isn't relevant because a fair portion of them are DRM free and i can back up and restore them without internet access:
https://www.pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/The_big_list_of_DRM-free_games_on_Steam

>>713092680
Nintendo is copying Valve, so it makes sense to compare the Shitch 2 trainwreck to Steam.

See, PCiggers. This is how you do it.
When the evil corporation tries to fuck you over, you say NO, bad Gayb, NO. Don't piss on the carpet.

>>713093382
would be nice if the 30% Valve would simply make a filter for non-DRM and then let you download the game just using any web browser.

But they don't do that, therefore all games on Steam are infected with spyware.

ITT:

>>713088379 (OP)
I don't know maybe fucking key cards

>>713088379 (OP)
No game on the cartridge.

>>713093507
you can do that on gog.

>>713093546
Nintendo threw the third parties under the bus then by only offering expensive 64gb cartridges or Key Cards. A game like Bravely Default would jump to around $55 or $60 if it had to use that 64GB cartridge.

>>713093753
all games on GOG have no DRM
all games on Steam have DRM

>>713093792
Sell 10.000 copies of 64 GB cart game
vs
Order 10.000 gay keys and sell none

Which sounds more profitable?

also see Final Fantasy X/X-2
>Japanese everything on cart release has a stable high price
>Western shit cart with X-2 not on cart is bargain bin slop

Choose one

>>713088379 (OP)
>Why aren't people buying 3rd party games on Switch 2?
Most of those games are already available on PS4/5, Xbox One/X, PC.
People won't pay full price to play an inferior version of a game they can get for less than 10usd on a better platform.

>>713093967
>10,000 copies of a 3ds port at $60
I don't see that happening, the $20 difference might get more people to buy in since it's cheap. The cost of the cartridges means the games won't drop to decent sale prices either like how physical copes of Witcher 3 on Switch are always a fuck ton more expensive than everywhere else by like $20.

Nintendo might have ended up forcing a shift towards third parties moving to digital only on their platform if these key cards don't sell anyway. But then the 256gb of storage space becomes a concern so it's just a bad scenario over all as long as the price of MicroSD Express cards remains retarded too.

Can buy a PS5 slim for the same price with better perf which is what most people will do if they care about third party titles over Nintendo games

>>713091028
>A vocal minority of gaijins is desperately trying to pain the game key cards as "anti-consumer" or "not physical" lmao

>>713094427
>they will buy a no ownership scam physical cart
nope
they could literally sell the Shitch 2 for $10 and these scam keys for $2 a piece, and I still wouldn't touch it.
It's over.

>>713088379 (OP)
They just bought buyed a $500 system plus tip plus mario kart. Give it some time.

>>713091951
I think a lot of the sales for Cyberpunk are to see how well the mouse mode works ahead of MP4 and Drag x Drive. The mouse mode is a brand new feature of the Switch 2 and Cyberpunk is the only game other than welcome tour that uses it I believe. Being physical might help a bit but it's more or less the tech demo for a new feature so I think it'd have sold even as a key cart.

>>713090647
>No one buys a Nintendo console to play third parties
i do.

>>713089829
Why the fuck would you ever buy a game if you intend to sell it at some point? This is weak cope, you might aswell pirate it at that point.

>>713090235
Also, if hogwarts legacy did poorly on switch 1 they wouldn't have bothered porting it to switch 2

>>713096151
DELETE

>>713091628
Have fun being a giant autist while i play video games.

>>713088379 (OP)
>Why aren't people buying 3rd party games on Switch 2?
There's literally no reason to play 3rd party on an underpowered console if you own anything else, only the most loyalist of tendies play 3rd party games on the Scam 2.

Who in the fuck is going to invest in digital games on a platform with 256GB storage? Morons. Plus all of the games are overpriced and old.

713095846
Why do you people keep trying to talk to turd worlders like this guy? They're not civilized. The only language they speak is mud hut and piracy 3rd worldie babble. No wonder their game industry is non existent in Southeast Asia, South America, India, Eastern Europe turd world shitholes. The concept of buying and reselling your product is foreign to a bunch of savages who only live to steal as their very nature won't allow their nations to progress.

Literally buckbroke that turdie's mind "why would you want to sell something you bought, just pirate!". See you in the Steamie Weenie PC cult fanboy begging thread in the summer sale week btw 3rd worldie.

>>713091074
Not to mention it also includes digital only games and games with very limited physical releases, if it only included games with widely available physical releases it would be something like 50/50 or 60/40

>>713096681
Yeah agreed. Like if you go to the latest releases on the Nintendo Switch eShop or Playstation Store you'll see a bunch of digital only AI slop. Nonstop. These are the revenue gains over physical that dishonest people like to paint as dire.

>>713091491
TotK is 3rd

>>713092212
I actually had to do this for Dawn of War II when it came out. I remember being extremely disappointed.

>>713091628
Same. Digital as gay as it is, is at least conveient. Key cards offer no advantage, why would I want that?

>>713096778
You are delusional if you think the AI Hentai Girls spam on shops has anything to do with sales.

>>713088379 (OP)
Because they're too expensive and only 3.5 million retards own one?
>>713088623
Retard, lots of third parties did good on switch 1. This shit is literally a no gamestation money sink right now.

>>713097059
Lack of reading comprehension? When people put evidence forward that digital revenue is eating up physical they include: microtransactions, DLC, mobile phones (lol) apps, gacha games MTX, battle passes, rental services like GamePass and Ubisoft and EA passes, and digital only games like AI slop that is abundant on even Steam. If you take all those out of the equation, digital and physical regular indie, B budget, AA budget, AAA budget sales are closer to each other's 50:50 split ration.

Rather than the creative math that dishonest people (marketers, digital only cultists) do on a regular basis to gaslight zoomers.

>>713088623
fpbp

>>713093792
I would gladly buy it at that price assuming it isn't censored

>>713089136
The difference is that most people have at least 1 TB hard drive space on their PC, while Switch2 has 256 GB storage unless you want to shell out extra for Micro SD Express cards.

Nintendo fans also have a long history of dusting off their old consoles and playing their old games and even buying and trading with other people, but if key cards require a download, they'll probably be useless in 20 years.

>>713088379 (OP)
We are reaching a boiling point where third party companies can’t sell copies of games on consoles. PC is another issue because steam has too many games and has a visibility issue. I wouldn’t be surprised if third parties end up making subscription services for their own games, since Japan copies the USA 10 years late for everything.

PlayStation experiences the same problem today and was the first to have this issue back in the PS4 era. Now it’s finally caught on to Nintendo

>>713088937
Game key cards are a result of Nintendo creating a problem and creating a solution to said problem. The problem was that Nintendo is charging an exorbitant amount for the higher storage carts, way above the manufacturers own price. Key cards are a Nintendo invention that third parties are forced to use because they are too greedy with their higher storage carts. You can’t expect a third party to go bankrupt with physical when Nintendo is jacking up licensing for 64gb carts. The blame goes to Nintendo for this, not third parties

>>713097540
I don't think Nintendo is to blame for cartridge pricing. They are not the ones sourcing them. The problem is that Nintendo is clearly not even giving the option for smaller than 64gb cartridges.

>>713097540
If Marvelous can afford proper carts, then so can Sega, Ubisoft, Square Enix and Capcom.

>>713097540
Shadow X generations would be ovdrpriced even if it was actually physical. This is mutual greed both on Nintendo and publisher's ends.

>>713089136
the amount of samefag seethe posts from tendieniggers on this is so hillarious

>>713097736
Marvelous is just trying to go for the good guy image. Also most games by the other publishers don't even fit inside the biggest cartridge, while other games are way smaller in scope.

>>713089068
your cucksole is shit so all you do is spam falseflag posts because otherwise no one would talk about it, outside of jeet shills and gook shills.
see, average TotK threads.

>>713097540
>PlayStation experiences the same problem today and was the first to have this issue back in the PS4 era. Now it’s finally caught on to Nintendo
The Playstation issue is that everyone is playing f2p games or the same online multiplayer game instead. Which yeah, that's what is happening with the Switch 2 right now. Everyone is playing Mario Kart(online multiplayer) instead so no one is buying anything third party and are saving for the new DK instead.

Third parties getting overshadowed by Nintendo's own games has always been a thing but having to launch against a game tendies can play for months without getting tired of is something else entirely.

Game key kard is a death sentence, but this doesn;'t mean nintendo will backtrack on it, just that third party devs will abandon the platform. Say hello to the next N64

>>713088379 (OP)
I mean it's just a bunch of ports. Only people interested are those who had switch as their only console so they couldn't play those games.

>>713097852
Only game that doesn't fit is Split Fiction which is a code in a box and MAYBE outlaws the file size of which isn't known yet but is suspected to be around 60GB, and yakuza could have easily fit in a proper cart since it's around 50GB.

>>713098132
If we get kino like OoT it's an acceptable compromise

>>713098132
Nintendo isn't making the decision. It's wholly on developers.
If CDPR can fit cyberpunk in a card then square enix should be able to fit DS trash like bravely default.

>>713098132
The N64 had good games.
Not straight roads slop.

>>713089068
Switch 2 IS a flop

>>713088379 (OP)
the diehard tendie coping is embarassing… https://youtu.be/MQ-9ewcOyRI?si=JRbdDnC0SrDNQx9D

>>713099409
That's not the issue, the issue is ONLY the expensive 64gb cards are offered to developers. That's it. So if you have a 1.8 gig indie game your options are either digital only, game key card for some retail presence, or the high-end 64gb card. This is why galaxy 2 wasn't included in 3D all stars (because Nintendo didn't want to pay for 32 gb carts) and why Tears of the Kingdom was $70 (The game is 17 gigabytes which made it a 32 gb cart size, Nintendo passed the buck onto us)

>>713100552
https://www.nintendo.com/us/terms-of-use/
>Nintendo grants you a limited, non-sublicensable license to access and use the Services for your personal use only.

>>713102381
>services
Good that tendies still OWN GAMES, unlike Steamies

>>713089887
You can still do that by changing your license setting.

>>713102657
Tendies don't even own their own hardware anymore.

>>713103983
no, you aren't.
they even removed that official feature from their FAQ.
you were able to buy Splatoon 2 once and then play with a relative together online.
That is NOT possible anymore.

>>713104308
Tendies do
Thieves don't, which is based. Fuck thieves.

>>713097996
>The Playstation issue is that everyone is playing f2p games or the same online multiplayer game instead. Which yeah, that's what is happening with the Switch 2 right now. Everyone is playing Mario Kart(online multiplayer) instead so no one is buying anything third party and are saving for the new DK instead.
>Third parties getting overshadowed by Nintendo's own games has always been a thing but having to launch against a game tendies can play for months without getting tired of is something else entirely.
Maybe it’s time for third parties to create a joint console project. Bandai Namco, Sega, Capcom all creating a console together because honestly fuck Nintendo and Sony reliance. They can easily make one together in house out source production like how Nintendo did with the Famicom/NES which was white labeled with Nintendo branding. Relying on big label platforms is a dead end as a third party, they can go fuck themselves.

>>713088379 (OP)
Ill type it out again
>ngc comes out with weird disc so third parties fuck off
>man we would love third parties
>wii comes
>nintendo shows theres some third party shit
>people rejoice, nobody buys it tho
>2 years after launch no third party support and the people that didnt buy them anyway complain
>wiiu
>exact same shit
>switch
>exact same shit
>but people played a lot of indie and smaller studio games and jrpg's
>switch 2 hype cycle
>Nintendo said in an interview that the power increase could help indies. Not a single word about big third parties
>third parties know like EA and Ubi have tried multiple gens, same result, nobody buys their games
>move to now
>switch 2 releases
>nobody buys third party titles
YEAH NO SHIT

>>713088379 (OP)
I legit don't have the disposable income to after buying the Switch bundle itself

>>713088623
FPBP.
Nintendo's hardware sucks.

>>713089068
>DBZ brownoid.
Of course it's a Tendie.

>>713098132
N64 didn't have digital games.

>>713098132
Do you think mom, dad and the typical people who walk into gamestop and walmart even know what a game key card is? 3rd party games have always done shitty on Nintendo consoles since most people know it's the worst way to play them.

>>713099409
>Nintendo isn't making the decision. It's wholly on developers.
False, Nintendo placed devs on this hill to die on. Being strong armed to pay three times the manufacturing price for Nintendo to pocket the difference is highway robbery.
>If CDPR can fit cyberpunk in a card then square enix should be able to fit DS trash like bravely default.
CDPR is actively taking a loss to make their image feel good. Same goes for marvelous. Don’t believe me? Look at their financials, and spoiler warning; this won’t help them

>>713105478
The SNES did
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satellaview
And the same was planned for N64.

Digital downloads before anyone else.

>>713088379 (OP)
They are all old games

>>713106572
The Shitch 1 only has old games, but they sell fine.

https://www.tweaktown.com/news/105483/gaming-ceo-explains-why-developers-may-not-ship-full-games-on-switch-2-cartridges/index.html

Marvelous American head explains why devs don’t want to ship with physical on switch 2, spoiler alert it’s fucking expensive and Marvelous did it for goodwill hoping people will flock to them. If a fucking third party dev spilled the beans, why are you all insistent on hating third parties for this? A fucking 8gb card is equivalent to a 25gb Blu-ray Disc. That’s just ridiculous

>>713088379 (OP)
When a console cost 600/700 bucks, you can't really buy more than 1/2 game, and people focus on exclusive releases

>>713090610
I too miss malware tier DRM that doesn't let me activate the game

I buy Nintendo consoles for Nintendo games.
Everything else I get on my PC.
I used to also get some of those more niche small-name Japanese games, but many of them decided they no longer want my money, so I'm happily obliging them.

>>713089063
This is a deliberate move to drive people away from physical games.

>>713088379 (OP)
>game on other platforms: already had many deep discounts
>game on Shitch 2: "that'll be $70 plus tip!"

>>713106964
>malware
that's Steam.

>>713107067
The move drives people away from Shitch though.

>>713107587
Nintendo being delusional and arrogant deep down is nothing new.

>>713108979
actually Nitnendo was the last one keeping physical.
The only good things about the Shitch 1 was that tons of Indies got their physical releases.

>>713100552
i love how angry this simple image (and factoid) makes deranged pc fanboy fanatics of /v pcmr era/
>>713097540
Console games sell fine on Playstation. Silent Hill 2 Remake, much as I hate SH2, sold enough exclusively on PS5 to continue remaking more. And the PC sales of SH2 were poor, everyone reported this.

The biggest takeaway from your post is that visibility is killing Steam games, that is very true. If the average number of games year released on Steam was 1000 during 2000s, it's likely 8,000 in the 2020s. Much of which aren't very good. Steam Greenlight was a community driven program that shouldn't have been shut down.

>>713089063
Give me my physical game or make the game $50 (cheaper if it isn't a AAA game)
Simple as.

>>713109472
The quality of Steam sewage would improve dramatically if they just raised the cost of publishing to $200 usd

>>713089136
They never have an answer for this

>>713089434
>this is such a stupid comparison
No it isn't

>>713088379 (OP)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38DYgkFp5XY
Calm down. The doc said it's ok and too early to panic.

>62% of Switch 2 physical game sales in the US (launch week) were from first-party games, excluding the Mario Kart World Bundle (Circana)
Doesn't sound so bad. UK sales aren't important.

>>713088379 (OP)
Because you buy Nintendo consoles for the exclusives. this is foreign to the snoy and micronigger, a reason to buy

The thing released literally one week ago. With mario kart.

Realistically how many games do you expect the average NS2 owner to have after ONE WEEK?

>>713088379 (OP)
The third party games out on the platform are shit

>>713107067
It's honestly not. The carts are just too expensive. Nintendo are scared of a repeat of the N64. The N64 carts were so fucking expensive people just refused to make games for it. Only 250 made in the N64 5 years life.

Devs already don't want to pay for the 16gb or 32gb switch cards. They sure as FUCK don't want to pay for the 64gb switch 2 cards.

This is a sort of meet in the middle for the developers AND the consumers believe it or not. Because yes, the data isn't on the card BUT you can buy and sell these carts pre-owned. That's an upside.

>>713090610
It was already dead

>>713113301
>This is a sort of meet in the middle for the developers AND the consumers believe it or not
Far from it. Consumers still have to download their full games and the card is nothing more than a placebo. This only benefits the greedy developers who wanna cheap out on full games on the cartridges while the average consumer gets fucked

What are the expectations do you expect for third party games, that are old ports, for a console that is only 2 weeks old? How about you release new games or wait a year when the console base is much bigger than now? You were always gambling on a new console release. If you aren't even willing to put in the effort, then all you'll get is half-ass returns at best.
>>713089063
>people like physical games.
>steam exists.
>physical games have been in decline for years.
???
You really don't look at the news Mr. Rip Van Winkle?

>>713113301
If Nintendo were just honest in explaining why the game key cards exist then there wouldn't be as much blowback. All they needed to say was that their game cards are very expensive to manufacture and the 64GB card they use will be expensive for 3rd parties (and Nintendo themselves). As a result, here's a compromise to all people who like physical cards to still have a tangible game that can pop into their Switch 2 consoles while, at the same time, cutting the cost 3rd parties need to spend on the game cards.

>>713114341
People like physical on Nintendo consoles. There, good enough for you?

>>713113957
Yes but you can buy from others and sell the cards. Which is better than a strictly digital only purchase in which you can do neither.

>>713089063
>key card dogshit, which is the worst aspects between physical and digital combined into one
Nope. It's digital as it always was with added benefits.

>why aren't people buying ports of games that originally came out years ago?!
gee I wonder

>>713089803
Isn't that DK? How the fuck are you able to play Switch 2 games on a Switch 1?

>>713089063
who the fuck is buying cyber punk in 2025

>>713114951
>added benefits
this is such shit and you are either a shill or a fool for thinking being able to resell the thing comes close to outweighing the massive downsides

>>713114341
>physical games have been in decline for years.
Cool beans. Still buying physical until they stop selling physical. Go reload another Fornite card you bought from the Supermarket and then buy another Gacha Lootbox to brag about digital sales.

>>713115304
Plenty. It's the most successful third party release on Switch 2 and according to CDPR it sold better than Witcher 3 did on Switch which was already a great success.
Also: 80% of Switch 2 week-one sales have been physical sales. Turns out people really just bought actual physical releases instead of keycard garbage. Doesn't matter if the game is old or not.

>>713088379 (OP)
>300+ replies over misinfo
Never change /v/.

>>713118358
We don't even know digital sales. Most people might be buying digital and ignoring the key cards. But I don't expect third parties to flop. That is just snoys being retarded

>>713088379 (OP)
People buy Nintendo consoles for Nintendo games.
This isnt rocket science. It's been this way for a while. You have to stop thinking about Nintendo like they have the same interest base as Sony or Microsoft, where the most played games on both consoles have over 95% overlap.
There are 4 dominant video game markets: Nintendo, Sony/MS, Mobile, and PC. Each has a different userbase with different interests. They put Halo 3 on PC and people dropped it after a month. They put Counter Strike Go on Xbox/PS and people dropped it after a month. Likewise, I could make the argument that splatoon would be literally irrelevant if it was a 3rd party multiplat.

>>713089136
You got them malding with this one