Retcon or time shenanigans

Call it

>>713095032 (OP)
feet

>>713095032 (OP)
Neither.

Mario's daughter.

>>713095032 (OP)
I find it hard to express how much I don't care

Who cares? It's a game for children.

>>713095505
Doubtful, considering you put the effort in to post ITT.
Someone who doesn't care would just shift-click and move on.

>>713095232
Where's her mustache then?

Probably her daughter or niece.

>>713095032 (OP)
>>713095232

who gives a shit about the Mario timeline
get a fucking grip

>>713095032 (OP)
Time travel shenanigan.

>>713095594
She doesn't have one.
But we do know that she has Mario's proportions, and she is obviously some sort of dwarf, like Mario.

>>713095594
Below.

thing to save a shitty game from failing

>>713095032 (OP)
thats a 13 year old?
full cap
looks like 6 to 8

Or you know, alternate universes.

>>713095593
I care about YOU. I came to this thread specifically to be with YOU anon. IDGAF about Pauline.

>>713095032 (OP)
When I saw her I expected this to be a prequel to the original DK and we'd play a young Cranky. Then old Cranky showed up.

>>713095505
>>713095528
It's in your right not to care but why post in the thread then?

>>713095032 (OP)
who gives a fuck? its just some kiddie game
nintengoys are mentally ill

>>713095946
Are you ready for Super Mario, but for women?

>>713095798
Mario character proportions.

>>713096104
Already exists

>>713096104
>that pauline
does she smoke five packs a day?

>>713095798
She has a sleeper build

>>713095032 (OP)
>suddenly

>>713095032 (OP)
Stop posting this I can barely lift my arms

>>713096589
built like a midget

>>713096802
Hmm...

>>713096589

>>713097358
Somebody's fan-made edit isn't indicative of anything, anon.

Why do her hands reach her knees? Fucked proportions.

>>713095032 (OP)
Imagine giving this much of a shit about fucking Donkey Kong lore.

>>713097498
Mario character proportions.

>>713097550
Donkey Kong lore is Mario lore.

>>713095032 (OP)

>>713097631
And it's more obvious with her other costumes, she literally has Mario's torso.

>>713095798
Yes and this is a 9 years old in Pokemon

>>713095032 (OP)
She gets the wish at the core
She turns back into adult Pauline
Voidco probably erased her memories, turned her into a kid, and locked her in that stone thing.
Or its a prequel and the Kongs we know are actually pretty old but dont show aging

>>713098224
or it's a sequel of odyssey where mario got to be with pauline and they had a kid

>>713098179
dude the anal focused doujin with her was wild

>>713095032 (OP)
She's probably what DK is to Cranky. I assume old Pauline from the original arcade game will show up at the start of the game or in flashbacks

>>713095032 (OP)
probably the latter

>>713095798
Late bloomer, give it one to three years and she'll gain the huge honkers she's famous for.

>>713095032 (OP)
It's a retcon. Cranky being the original DK is also non canon schizo babble now

Where is the diaper art

>>713098820
I believe she is to current Pauline as DK is to Cranky.
It just makes sense.

>>713095798
She isn't wearing a cap at all, retard.

>>713098179
>Poppy amiibo also unlocks Poppy costume
Imagine

I don't know why you people expect MARIO to have consistent lore.

Ok, look.
Why does she literally look like Mario here?

Where's the polymarket betting pool

>>713099178
Because it has maintained a consistent timeline across multiple major games, and a large majority of the games don't have writing that contradicts past events from previous games.

>>713099384
???? We talking about the plumbers from Brooklyn that were delivered by yoshis

>>713099231
The fuck are you talking about?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PE0oKq3enU

>>713095232
Mario is 25. If Pauline smol is his daughter what the fuck happened here

>>713099549
So Mario fucked Pauline when he was 12?

>>713095782
PubeloliCHAD...

>>713099549
Mario probably left Pauline around 25, and then he's been in the Mushroom Kingdom for 13 years.

bro why is she a child

>>713097651
That doesn't make it better.

>>713099781
So basically, Pauline got cucked (laughs)!

Do nintendo fans all have low iq? It took me less than 5 seconds to think “this probably takes place in the past” when pauline was shown. Do you all need to be spoon fed information? DK is even working as a miner which he has never been shown to do before.

>>713095032 (OP)
Retkonged

>>713099854
caring about Mario lore of of all things is retarded man

>>713099781

>>713099781
>>713099781

>>713095032 (OP)
Why would it be a retcon if they mentioned she's always wanted to be a singer? It's clearly some weird origin story thing. Maybe time works differently in kong world before they got to the mushroom kingdom or something stupid like that. What I'm not a fan of is the voice acting

>>713099781
T5>

>>713095032 (OP)
she obviously got de-aged hence the ripped dress and oversized pants

>>713099651
Mario does believe and respect sharia law

>>713099178
Because it's been consistent for decades

>>713099481
It's not our fault you're too retarded to pay even the slightest bit of attention. It's not like there's entire essays and books about it.

>>713100186
The big reveal, the thing Nintendo left out of the Direct, for players to discover themselves, is that she wants to be a singer... like her mother.

>>713100361
The father.... Cranky

>>713099959
Retard who doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about detected. Pauline can't be a kid if Crank Kong exists

>>713099959
But cranky said ....

I'm going bananas in my pants

>>713095032 (OP)
She was turned into a kid, her clothes are too big for her unless she was into rap when she was young.

>>713099481
Yeah

Uoh levels: critical
https://files.catbox.moe/z8d1ax.jpeg
https://files.catbox.moe/a8mzbn.jpeg
https://files.catbox.moe/qdt6zh.jpeg

This is a Mario theory thread.
Only Mario theories are allowed in this thread.

>>713101080

>>713101348
L is real?

>>713098179
god I wish that were me

>>713101080
@Nintendo ARREST HIM!

>>713101417
I meant "Mario has a daughter" theories.

>>713101315
>brain melted Rosa
>still a better mom than daisy

>>713095032 (OP)
time shenanigans

>>713095032 (OP)
Age regression and memory wipe. She's going to be returned to her proper age once Void Kong is defeated. Then she will say goodbye to DK and return to NDC.

>>713101531
Coping with the fact that Mario left pregnant Pauline Sr. behind.

>>713099001
>Cranky being the original DK is also non canon schizo babble now
It's literally in the manual.

>>713099090
13 year old do'nt wear diapers.

>>713101505
But maruo only has a daughter with peach

>>713099178
Odyssey kind of made that lore a significant aspect of that game.

>>713101781
No he doesn't.

Age potion. Poppy Kong is secretly a centuries old witch and will turn into an old crone during her boss fight. She used one of her age potions on Pauline to make her easier to kidnap.

>>713095032 (OP)
they ignore it because nintendo literally never cared about continuity

>>713101973
holy shit this

>>713101080
Pinups don't do shit for me.
Gen her getting railed in every hole

>>713099959
>>713100186
This game does not take place in the past, Cranky is in this game and he's referencing the original game talking about his "rival in the overalls"
My own personal theory is that this is a new Cranky: the DK from Country (Jr) and the new DK is probably Jr's grandson. The new Pauline is also a descendant of the original Pauline

>>713101080
FUCK UPLOAD THIS SHIT SOMEWHERE LIKE PIXIV OR SADPANDA NOW!!

>>713101973
When has Nintendo ever not explained why a character is a different age than what they are supposed to be?

>>713095032 (OP)
Its time for Daniella to be the next official addition to the cannon.

>>713102072
>characters can't break the 4th wall or make meta jokes
do you have autism

>>713101870
It's this and it's fucking obvious.

>>713101973
People keep saying this but they then placed echos of wisdom immediately on the timeline

>>713102138
>Daniella
who?

>>713102206
>anon doesn't know

>>713101743
Neither do wolves

>>713101080
I've never thought I would have a Pauline folder, lolification is the greatest trope of all time.

>>713097464
he replied to a fan made edit with a better fan made edit
fat lovers should fuck off

>>713095032 (OP)
get this woke shit out of here

>>713101080
Anyone who likes this shit is a toddlercon, not a real lolicon.

>>713102547

>>713101510
How do you think Daisy turned out like she did? That big head happened had to come from somewhere

>>713102592
No one actually cares about what class on "con" they or someone else is. Anyone who tries to draw lines are just derailment bait.

>>713095032 (OP)
time magic

>>713095926
Gay

>>713099939
Kek

>>713102592
Weird cope when the body isn't toddlercon at all, just admit you're a fake lolicon

>>713099959
>It took me less than 5 seconds to think “this probably takes place in the past” when pauline was shown.
Seeing Young Kranky is the one who kidnapped her when she was adult and Diddy and Dixie and Cranky are in the game, that doesn't work out. I think you should get your own IQ checked out.

It is obvious that this is Pauline Jr.

>>713102163
He wasn't breaking the fourth wall there and diddy and Dixie are there too.

>>713102592
That's an average 8-9 year old girl body though.

>>713104327
he is

>>713102480
>he replied to a fan made edit
Not a fan-edit, anon, an outline of an actual picture from the game. Not the same thing.

>>713102658
I want this to be true because it’s based as fuck

>>713095032 (OP)
She was probably just turned into a kid
Like what >>713101870 said

>>713104325
It's funny considering it fits the dk > DK jr. motif

>>713104428
Not really. And that he break the 4th wall doesn't change that he the father/grandfather of DK and kidnapped Pauline in her youth.

You do not understand how 4th wall breaking actually work.

>>713099781
Imagine getting dumped by a fucking midget loser with a giant nose and a pornstache because he's lusting after the blonde bimbo who keeps sneaking away to get lizard dick.

>>713096132
how does she get such a fat ass then as an adult

>>713098179
that can pass for nine
13 should have hints of puberty and growth

Pretty sure Pauline was never a fucking rock at some point in her life.

>>713104760
Mario adult female character proportions.

>>713104828
People usually say the MC in Pokemon is 10 and Poppy is a midget compared to you I the game. She looks literally like a mutant toddler.

It's Pauline from the past. Not aged down that's fuckin stupid

>its time travel!
>its multiverses!
>it's an alternate universe!
>its the present day but pauline specifically was displaced from her time!
>its present day but she was not only turned into a rock but also a child and she also lost her memories so she doesn't remember anything!
>its present day but Pauline makes her wish at the end and is aged up into an adult!
>it's STILL not Pauline but rather a relative of Pauline who is also named Pauline!
Why can't people just accept that it is an origin story/prequel in which the wish leads to them founding NDC and trust Nintendo to explain it, including Cranky's presence? How is it that people can so readily accept that Nintendo gives no fucks about the Zelda timeline, but the DK timeline is somehow sacred and above them fucking with it for the purposes of DK's grand reintroduction?

>>713104905
How do you know, did you read her biography?

>>713104449
deluded retard
that outline is not scientific at all, it's some porn addict's wishful thinking
clothes hang off a body, they don't contour to it unless it's fucking latex, and even then, there's an extra layer to consider
Do you think Diana has an obese torso with giant tits because she happens to be wearing a big blue coat?

>>713104978
Her torso specifically is round, just like Mario's.

>>713104449
What's more, the AI nude edit is more likely to be impartial in its estimation of what the girl looks like under her clothes, moreso than a crudely drawn red line

>>713105037
>Why can't people just accept that it is an origin story/preque
Because Cranky in his youth Kidnapped adult Pauline, so him now being old while DK, Diddy and Dixie are no there doesn't make the game work as a prequel. So some amount of time travel mus t at least be involved.

Use your brain for more than 5 seconds before making a post, next time.

>>713105063
>that outline is not scientific at all
See this? That's an actual argument. Posting a fan-edit isn't.

>>713105204
>What's more, the AI nude edit is more likely to be impartial in its estimation
Lol, no, not at all. AI are not objective.

>>713105037
>>it's STILL not Pauline but rather a relative of Pauline who is also named Pauline!
Mario's father is also called Mario so yeah, it is possible for the girl to be blood related to Pauline and also be named Pauline.

>>713105010
still prepubescent which can fuck with height

>>713105037
I mean I would agree if Cranky wasn't there and talking about fighting Mario back in the day.
Of course it could be extra stupid and the cranky in this game could be Cranky's grandfather talking about Mario's grandfather but like I said that is extra stupid
The most reasonable assumption based on the inclusion of cranky is that it's present day

Pauline is the main character: Not DK.

This isn't what I signed up for!

She's 13 because the Japanese cutoff between childhood and adolescence is 13. Pauline will probably gain a sense of confidence that has her wear the diva dress instead of being an ugly duckling or some other shit like that. It happened with the 2010 Atelier games until fucking Ryza came along and now the protagonists are proper adults.

>>713104614
it's a soft reboot since they're reintroducing Pauline to the franchise. My god it's not that complicated

>>713105037
NDC is already founded in Donkey Kong Bananza.
There are crates with "NDC" labels on them.

>>713105208
>reading comprehension
I acknowledged Cranky in the post. If you want my theory: Cranky Kong is a title that can be inherited, just like Donkey Kong for years has been canonically accepted as a title that many Kongs can have. Just as fans understand that arcade Donkey Kong is Cranky Kong today. The Cranky Kong in Bananza is simply the Cranky Kong of that time. The Donkey Kong you play as in Bananza grows up to become the Cranky Kong we know now.

>>713105320
He's called Papa Mario because Mario is the family name, which Mario also happens to have as his given name.

>>713105467
Well have fun being wrong.

>>713105413
>it's a soft reboot since they're reintroducing Pauline to the franchise.
Nope, that was Odyssey that reintroduced her to the franchise. And her being a singer is straight from Odyssey.

She is also reintroduced in the movie as the Mayor, so it's not going to be a synergy thing either.

>>713105467
>I acknowledged Cranky in the post.
And that make you even dumber for saying it take place before the Arcade game.

>Cranky Kong is a title that can be inherited, just like Donkey Kong for years
Nice theory contradicted by Diddy an Dixie being there too.

>>713105639
That's the mario franchise not the DK one. It's obvious we're seeing Pauline and DK meet for the first time.

>>713105778
>That's the mario franchise not the DK one.
Whose Paulin is part of both, anon.

>>713105971
yeah and we're seeing the new retconned version of Pauline and DKs first meeting.

>>713106061
Enough with the disinformation.

>>713106104
How is that disinformation?

>>713095032 (OP)
It could also be a curse. Something caused her to be shrunk. Not out of the realm of possibility.

>>713106061
>we're seeing the new retconned version of Pauline and DKs first meeting.
No, we saw her first in Odyssey where she was reintroduced as a singer and Bananza is continuing on that.

The only way it can make remote sense is time travel shit

>>713106421
Nintendo literally said it's a 13 year old Pauline so it takes before Odyssey

>>713106476
Seeing that Kranky kidnapped adult Pauline, that doesn't work out.

It most likely involve time travel and young Pauline will be send in the past at some point.

>>713105305
>See this? I just got owned. That's right. *crosses arms with a smug expression*

>>713106476
That doesn't make sense because by the time Pauline is grown up, Donkey Kong would have died of old age.
It's Pauline Jr.

>>713106560
>Seeing that Kranky kidnapped adult Pauline, that doesn't work out.
holy shit it's obvious they're changing up the franchise to total autist.

>It most likely involve time travel and young Pauline will be send in the past at some point.
are you trolling

>>713105368
>>713098817
>See 9 year old that looks like a toddler
>First thought you get about her is sex
You poketards are never going to be the pedo allegations huh?

>>713106584
>I just got owned.
No, I wasn't. I have stated that nude pic was a fan-edit and therefore of no value and that remains true.

>>713106641
>holy shit it's obvious they're changing up the franchise
Seeing that Odyssey made a point to re-affirm that origin, no, it does not look like it.

Void Kong is a 6 eared macaque

Pay attention to these lyrics here.
I know not many have.

>>713095032 (OP)
armpit slut

>>713095032 (OP)
Full-on reboot or Zeldalike alternate timeline shenanigans.

>>713106594
Women don't do "Jr." Have you ever seen or even heard of that ever happening in your entire life?

>>713106745
your obviously trolling.

>>713105037
I think it's just one austist that's doesn't understand how fiction works

>>713098179
Nintendo knows its audience

>>713095032 (OP)
Cute girl but the game looks like absolute trash.
Who is going to pay $80 for that shit?

>>713106936
>your obviously trolling.
Nope, just stating fact. It can't be a prequel. certainly not with Dixie and Candy being there and Old Cranky having been re-established in Odyssey as being the one who kidnapped Pauline in the arcade game It's as simple as that.

>>713101080

>its a new soft reboot/origin story

annnnd done

nintendo isn't in the interest of confusing audiences, remember TOTK barely referencing BOTW?

>>713101870
Hag monke... Erotic...

>>713107072
Please leave the thread.
There's plenty of other threads you can go to, but please leave this one.

>>713106936
>I think it's just one austist that's doesn't understand how fiction works
Saying how "it's obviously a prequel" while ignoring everything that clearly indicate it isn't is not a good understanding of fiction.

>>713106846
>toes
Holy shit they were telling us about small Pauline was back then!

>>713107196
>thinks Cranky can't reference a real world arcade game in a prequal/soft reboot
you don't understand how fiction works

>>713107125
>>its a new soft reboot
We don't know that.

>>713105408
I think one thing that the english version is messing up right now is that Pauline doesn't have confidence to sing. She's not someone to take center stage and her wish is probably related to that. That's why she looks nervous when she is put in front of the mic and probably only admits later in the game that she loves to sing.

>>713107281
I am not saying he can't. I am saying that him being the one who kidnapped adult Pauline make so this game can't be a prequel.

that you can't figure that out clearly establish you can't understand fiction beyond the Hungry Hungry caterpillar.

>>713107287
We dont know that time travel is involved either but people are confidently stating as such. I think it's equally possible it's just a new continuity. Donkey Kong is being reintroduced, so what's wrong with it just being a new direction that we simply think is in the same continuity because it uses the same familiar characters?

>>713105037
You don't need to be obsessive with lore and timelines to notice basic facts like characters ages and be puzzled when those facts suddenly change in a nonsensical way.
>Nintendo gives no fucks about the Zelda timeline
They clearly do, all the games before BOTW are connected in a pretty concise way.

>>713107538
>We dont know that time travel is involved either but people are confidently stating as such.
Because it's the only thing that actually make sense and work out with how the character was re-established in Odyssey.

>>713107420
>I am not saying he can't. I am saying that him being the one who kidnapped adult Pauline make so this game can't be a prequel.
It's obvious that he didn't kidnap her in this continuity you fucking moron. Cranky referencing the arcade game in a cheeky manner doesn't disprove this
>that you can't figure that out clearly establish you can't understand fiction beyond the Hungry Hungry caterpillar.
nigger you're the one who thinks Pauline was aged down or time travel being involved. I really hate saying this phrase, but you lack media literacy if you think those are possibilities

>>713107702
>They clearly do, all the games before BOTW are connected in a pretty concise way.
Now now, let's not say anything foolish, it barely works. It just matter less in Zelda because more often than not, those are different instances of the characters.

>>713095032 (OP)
The funny thing about these angry arguments is SOMEONE is going to be wrong and that will be devastating any any autistic who cares enough to actually debate this.
Can't wait for the seethe

>>713107731
>It's obvious that he didn't kidnap her in this continuity
It's obvious that they are continuing on what they have established in Odyssey and that this therefore not a new continuity.

>nigger you're the one who thinks Pauline was aged down or time travel being involved.
Is there a better explanation that reconcile thing with what we saw in Odyssey?

>>713107938
>It's obvious that they are continuing on what they have established in Odyssey and that this therefore not a new continuity.
a New continuity for Donkey Kong not Mario you disingenuous fuck
>Is there a better explanation that reconcile thing with what we saw in Odyssey?
yes, that it's a fucking prequal and we're seeing a 13 year Pauline like nintento literally said

>>713107731
>but you lack media literacy
You lack media literaccy if you can not understand that this Pauline is the Pauline re-established in Mario Odyssey.

The design couldn't make it more obvious.

>THE NON-OFFICIAL, NON-/v/-SANCTIONED CANON FOR DK!

-Back in the 80s, A Giant gorilla caused untold havoc in Brooklyn, NY. that ape's name was 'Donkey Kong'. he kidnapped a so-far-unknown name lady and took her to the top of a construction site.
-A Rotund, short, but agile italian carpenter, known only as 'the Jumpman', set out to rescue the lady from the ape's clutches as she was his fiancee. he was succesful.
-The Jumpman and the Lady got married and had a child, her name is Pauline.
-The ape ended up back into the jungle, there he discovered the entrance to a lush jungle kingdom in another world. he became the apes' leader, and changed his name to Cranky kong.
-Meanwhile, 2 italian brothers were doing their own thing. they will grow to become as strong and fast as The Jumpman was on his prime, if not more. they are the Mario Bros.
-The little Pauline grew up to become Brooklyn's mayor. and due to what happened with Donkey Kong, the city was renamed, New Donk City.
- at around the same time, the Mario Bros. discover the multiverse pipe network and end up in mushroom kingdom, where they meet Princess Peach, Bowser, Toad, DK (Cranky's son), and yoshi. and become the worlds champions.
-time passes, and we are in CURRENT TIME.
-As part of an expansion plan for New Donk City, Mayor Pauline sets out to Ingot Isle, the main connection point to the planet's core, where she hopes to use her singing there to get her wish and help fix her city. unfortunately, she got caught by VoidCo.
-seeing how her music is a threat to their plans, they not only rejuvenate her and erase her memories, but seal her into the purple odd rock.
-as the coup de grace, they throw her to the underground, where she meets Dk, leading to the events of Bananza.
-

>>713108087
>a New continuity for Donkey Kong not Mario
They share the SAME continuity, anon. Odyssey make that quite clear. you know, in New DONK city.

You not being able to understand that showcase that YOU lack basic comprehension skills.

They aged her down because adult Pauline was likely too big to ride on Donkey Kong without getting in the way of actually seeing the guy during gameplay

>>713105037
Rare's Donkey Kong lore consists of just the fact that Cranky is the old DK and isn't really more complicated than that. Nintendo has always been a little confused by this though and in the games made by them they don't really care. However, this game seem to be unusually interconnected with the rest of the DK franchise, so there probably is some explanation for it. It's really the older guys at Nintendo like Miyamoto who hate their games having lore, but Nintendo is giving in more and more to that in recent years except for TOTK messing up the lore to its own predecessor.

>>713095219
was going to write that, hebe feet

>people actually think nintendo put any thought into any of their franchises lore beyond "Hero goes on an epic adventure to save the girl"

This shit was retarded as fuck a decade ago with Zelda and its just as retarded now. The amount of people that actually care about the lore of a video game series where completely off the wall retarded shit happens is extremely concerning.

>>713108113
The fuck are you even arguing? I never said this was another or different Pauline from Odyssey
>>713108207
We're seeing the new DK continuity part since they're clearly changing the dk franchise

>>713108274
They also aged her down to appeal to little girls because Nintendo wants to become Disney 2.0 with expanded universes that can support games, movies, shows, merch and theme park stuff.

>>713108087
>a New continuity
>yes, that it's a fucking prequel
A story that kickstart a new continuity can not be a prequel to anything anon. Do not lecture anyone about Media Literacy if you do not understand that.

>>713108405
NO YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND MARIO HAS THE DEEPEST LORE!!!
PAULINE WAS DE AGED OR TIME TRAVEL IS HAPPENING, NOTHING ELSE MAKES SENSE

>>713108434
>The fuck are you even arguing? I never said this was another or different Pauline from Odyssey
If it's the same Pauline, then it's not a ne continuity and it's in the same universe as Mario.

>We're seeing the new DK continuity
If it's a new continuity, then it's not the same Pauline. Make up your mind.

>>713108445
This is the Odyssey team we're talking about Anon
Form meets function
A smaller Pauline is unironically better for gameplay

I'm not trolling when I say I just want to fuck a sexy preteen girl, just once

>>713108405
There is a difference between not thinking things through to deeply and discarding glaring contradictions, anon.

Especially when they have recently made a game that re-afirms those events.

Have none of you played BotW and especially TotK?
Nintendo doesn't give a flying fuck about timelines or consistency anymore

>>713108458
>A story that kickstart a new continuity can not be a prequel to anything anon
A new continuity for DK while being a prequel to oddesy, it's not that complicated

>>713108760
>A new continuity for DK while being a prequel to oddesy
Odyssey establish clearly that the events of Mario rescuing Pauling from Donkey Kong Senior happened.

>>713108868
guess nintendo is retconning that little bit

>>713108405
Cranky is literally the first, maybe even the only thing to get rid of if you want to change things to establish DK as the one and only, who kidnaps Pauline and fights Mario to this day.
The fact that they not only kept Cranky, but kept him referencing him fighting Mario means that they clearly haven't thrown that in the trash.

I

>>713108649
I guess you get to spend every new game release in agony whenever they do this then. Do you guys get upset when Wil E Coyote comes back in the next episode of Looney Tunes even though he completely blew himself up the last episode? Have fun retards.

>>713108948
Seeing they basically directly taking Pauline from Odyssey for Bananza, it doesn't really look like it, actually.

>>713108989
>character can't reference original donkey kong because it gets in the way of my deepest lore
wut

>>713109017
>I guess you get to spend every new game release in agony whenever they do this then
They don't do this that often, actually.

Usually, Nintendo simply keep things loose so that there is never really an issue. An outright contradiction like this is far less frequent.

>>713109029
Well seeing how it's clearly a 13 year old Pauline, Id say it kinda does

>>713108679
>anymore
They never did.

>>713109036
Not the anon, but of course he can. But then you can't pretend it didn't happen.

Especially when the core of his character is being the original Donkey Kong.

>>713109112
How so?

>>713101870
That makes sense

>>713108154
No.
DK, Lady, and Jump Man from Arcade are the same as DK, Pauline, and Mario from DK '94, that DK kidnaps Modern Pauline. Mario friendzones Pauline, and Arcade/'94 DK later becomes Cranky Kong, and his son, DKC/Bananza DK, becomes the new DK.

Mario comes back to Pauline after being friendzoned by Peach,

Pauline later has "Smauline" and 13 years go by, and Smauline is kidnapped by VoidCo and is taken to Ingot Isle, gets turned into Odd Rock, teams up with DKC/Bananza DK, gets turned back into Smauline, and is returned to the surface to Mario and Pauline.

>>713109234
>Especially when the core of his character is being the original Donkey Kong.
the core of his character is being an old grumpy gamer who references older games

He's a fictional character not limited to the fucking story

>>713109337
>the core of his character is being an old grumpy gamer who references older games
because HE WAS PART OF AN FAMOUS OLDER GAME!

But sure, remove a core aspect of the character.

>>713109309
reintroducing pauline as a 13 year old girl meeting dk for the first time

>>713109036
You can't have Cranky say that he is the original DK and also that he isn't in the same game.

I want to be a cute little girl bros

>>713109471
Pauline was reintroduced in Aodyssey, not Bananza.
And how does that retcon Odyssey?

>>713109548
They're giving her a new past you disingenuous fuck.

Calling it now: final level is Jumpman going after DK and rescuing Pauline.

>>713109649
lewd

>>713109036
So what's your argument, that Cranky is saying the same shit he always said except now instead of him talking about himself back in the day, he's just crazy and just spouting meaningless nons nonsensical ramblings that happen to be about dk arcade?

>>713095232
Kino. But Nintendo doesn't have the balls

>>713098224
But what the fuck happened between her and DK that she goes on to sing Jump Up Superstar, a song all about Mario saving her from DK?

>>713109471
The 13 year old Pauline is Pauline Jr., but is named Pauline.
Just like how Arcade/'94 Donkey Kong and DKC/Bananza Donkey Kong are both named Donkey Kong.
And DKC/Bananza DK is Arcade/'94 DK's son.
And I assume that Arcade/'94 Donkey Kong took the name "Cranky Kong" to heart, after the other Kongs started calling him that after he became old and cranky.

>>713109740
Bananza Cranky is Jr. (DKC). These are a new DK and Pauline, probably their grandchildren

>>713109740
no, he's a fictional character not bound by fucking lore you retard. My god do you sperg out whenever a character talks to a narrator or breaks the fourth wall

>>713109630
Not a "new" past, just a past, there wasn't one before.

And there is no disingenuousty from my part. I am asking you to explain to me how Pauline being 13 year old in Bananza retcon Odyssey. What was retconned?

Because the only disingenuousty is you pretending that this forcibly means a retcon.>>713109112

>>713108405
They won't(can't) stop trying to smash the square peg into the round hole.

>>713110051
retconning pauline getting kidnapped by cranky

>>713110029
>LORE HURTS MY FEEFEES!

you have the right to your opinion, but the moment you call people retards for their opinions makes you lose all the right to defend it. go fuck yourself. if people want for DK to have lore, then it should have, and guess what: DK HAD LORE SINCE THE FIRST DKC!

>>713099520
I like that brambles are in the game but they coulda added a cloud layer in the backround and not a gradient

>>713108679
ToTK was clearly a massive production fuckup that was plagued by numerous development issues, and they tried to course-correct the timeline and story retcons with EoW.

If anything, Bonanza having a greater focus on story and characters is proof that Nintendo's gradually coming to the reality that story is integral to cross-media franchising. If they want to become the new and better Disney, they have to start giving a fuck about story and character growth, whether they like it or not.

>>713110174
nigger your acting like DK/Mario is this lore heavy/centric franchise when it's not. Everything is in service of the gameplay.

>>713110169
How Pauline being 13 in Bananza retcon Pauline being kidnapped by Kranky as she relate it in Odyssey?

Elaborate.

>>713109989
>These are a new DK and Pauline
Except Diddy and Dixie are also there, so not really.

>>713110291
I guess Cranky could kidnap Pauline between bananza and oddesy, it'd be kinda weird but it could happen

>>713110029
So then what's he talking about?
>My god do you sperg out whenever a character talks to a narrator or breaks the fourth wall
That's not the issue. You still haven't answered the question. What is he saying if not talking about how he is not referencing his rivalry with Mario?

>>713110280
so? that doesnt justify your whining.

>>713109745
How do we know that Miyamoto isn't planning to reveal that the whole "Mario and Peach" thing was a 40-year long troll?
He flat-out admitted that Pauline got dumped.
He already flat-out admitted that Mario cheating on his girlfriend is the premise for every single Mario game where he rescues Peach from Bowser.
Yet people still buy Mario games.

>>713110372
>I guess Cranky could kidnap Pauline between bananza and oddesy
No, he couldn't, he kidnapped her when he was young.

>>713105373
qrd? who is this guy?

>>713101486
Technically they should arrest themselves.
https://files.catbox.moe/q4fl4q.jpeg

>>713105373
No shit? Should've been obvious after that direct.

>this many anons actually believe in de aging or time travel
>getting this desperate to make sense of lore when nintendo clearly doesn't

god yall are sad as fuck and lack media literacy

>>713109112
>Id say it kinda does
Seeing the possibility of time Travel is canon in the Mario world, her being 13 in banaza isn't substantially enough to confirm there was a retcon.
>>713109630
Just after having reaffirmed her past in Odyssey? No, I doubt it.

>>713110749
yeah time travel makes far more sense than a giving her a new marketable form

you dense fuck

>>713107096
than.. thank you...

>>713105373
Pauline is basically a more complex Luma/spirit Track Zelda.

DK is still the one doing most of the actions, so no.

>how can Cranky reference the arcade game AND Pauline be 13 years old

>>713110738
frfr we lack media literacy and are fundamentally incurious no cap on colonialism

>>713110815
>yeah time travel makes far more sense than a giving her a new marketable form
Anon, how dense are YOU for thinking that one prevents the other.

>>713110590
moar!!!

>>713111029
how dense are you to think time travel is involved

>>713110815
Mario Kart World uses DK's Bonanza form, why not Pauline's? If it were just a new marketable form, would they not use it?

>>713110951
Seeing they recently made a game that made a point to reaffirm this while one of Kranky's core character aspect is being the DK from the arcade game, I'd say it's rather normal to wonder that question.

>>713109745
>>713110470
The Japanese love coming up with deranged pairings in an attempt to be clever and shocking.

>>713111075
It doesn't really make sense to consider that dense when it's the most straightforward explanation.

>>713111152
obviously time travel or age regression is the only possible answers anon.

>>713111095
probably it was other character on DK's back before last hour change

>>713110951
More like it was intentional and Nintendo knew it would generate a ton of speculation from fans, which in turn translates to a ton of marketing for the game.

All of this is very intentional and deliberate. Cranky Kong admitting his old rivalry to DK is intentional. They wouldn't have bothered including it if it wasn't.

>>713111268
I mean, there could be other.

But regardless, thinking "It is FORCIBLY retcon, considering any other explanation make you dense" is a kind of condescending take.

>>713111359
>Cranky Kong admitting his old rivalry to DK is intentional.
What are you talking about?

>>713111436
anon a retcon makes far more sense than fucking time travel or age regression

This is an alternate timeline
Marvel does it all the time

>>713095032 (OP)
I'm already sick of this dogshit design.

>>713110951
>how can a senile old guy misremember things

Oh no that was super hard to figure out.

>>713111525
A retcon can work for Zelda, but not for Mario.

>>713111525
>anon a retcon makes far more sense
Not really no. Especially when it already contradict a recent game like Odyssey.
Why would it make more sense than Time Travel or age regressions?

>>713111525
I think they're trying to reboot the franchise in general. Pauline is no longer the girl Cranky kidnapped decades ago, the Kremlings no longer exist, Kongs can now be villains instead of only DK's relatives. What they hope this will accomplish, I have no idea. It looks a game that could have fit the original "timeline" just fine.

>>713111695
Finally someone gets it

>>713111625
>retconing Kranky into a senile game that wrongly believe he was the arcade DK
If that's meant to be the retcon, it's not a very good one.

>>713110470
that would be an amazing bait-n-switch, everybody memes that Peach cucks Mario with Bowser but in true it is Mario whose cucking Pauline with the blonde bimbo from another world and at the same time BSS'ing Bowser

>>713111695
>Pauline is no longer the girl Cranky kidnapped decades ago
It make little sense to assume this is what Nintendo want when they made a point to make it significant in their most recent mainline 3D Mario game.

>>713111901
well they're clearly doing that by giving Pauline a new past with bananza

>>713111901
As a Sonic fan who had through suffer through shit like Lost World right after Generations, I can assure you marketing people can be that retarded.

>>713110470
>He already flat-out admitted that Mario cheating on his girlfriend is the premise for every single Mario game where he rescues Peach
Anon, quitting a girlfriend and then getting a new one is not cheating.

>>713111996
>well they're clearly
Again, how is that clear?

bros...

>>713112094
by introducing a 13 year old Pauline

>>713111997
Even so, they try keeping some level of continuity, and there is a difference between side aspect of the lore and fundamental origin aspect being changed.

>>713112179
you're making a lot of assumptions on what nintendo can and can't do

>>713112140
Again, explain to me how that make it clear that this means Nintendo want the event of the Arcade game retconed?
Why does that forcibly means this? Why does that exclude any other possible explanation?

>>713112009
Mario was not faithful to Pauline.
Pauline was upset because Mario started chasing after Peach.

>>713112247
I am making none and that's the point.

and it's more about what Miyamoto will or won't do with his cherished characters.

>>713112367
>they try keeping some level of continuity
this is an assumption

>>713112332
Pretty sure they broke up before that.

>>713112102
So pristine...

>>713112426
It's not, it's an actual observation from games to games that have been done so far.

>>713112287
by introducing a 13 year old Pauline you retard

>>713112458
Pauline was hurt that Mario didn't want her anymore.
Mario hurt Pauline's feelings.
This is public knowledge, and yet, people still buy Mario games.

>>713112102
Where are the pubes?

>>713112552
no, it's an assumption

>>713111656
>A retcon can work for Zelda, but not for Mario

Different anon replying here, but they can only work if alternate timelines and multiverses are involved. And even then, those alternative timelines need a valid excuse for their existence and a vague explanation for how or why they split from a former predecessor title in the timeline.
And direct sequel games completely contradicting their their predecessor game on multiple story fronts (BotW to ToTK,) do not work for anyone involved, even the normiest of normiest who don't give a fuck about autistic timeline continuity or historical eras in a fictional universe.
There is a reason why Nintendo tried to course correct the post-ToTK lore destruction with EoW and its continuation of the classic timeline. There is a reason why Nintendo completely separated BoTW and ToTK from the classic timeline (and even from each other) through an official timeline release last year. And there is a reason why Aonuma and Fujibayashi admitted they they are done with the BoTW era and that they never want to return to it ever again.
BoTW was clearly meant to be either a full-on reboot or a brand-new timeline for the Zelda IP, but they completely fucked up massively from a story perspective, and now they want to memory-hole it altogether.

>>713096802
>>713096589
Proof she is a lightskinned latina

>>713112583
Pauline being 13 in Bananza is the premise, moron, not the explanation.
The only retard here is the one who does not seem to understand the question.

So again, How Pauline being 13 make you conclude that it forcibly means Nintendo is retconing the events of the Arcade Game and Odyssey itself? How Pauline being 13 make it the only possible explanation?

SUDDENLY THROUGH SPACE AND TIME.....

>>713112691
That the numerous Mario games have kept some level of continuity is not an assumption but something that has actually been observed.

>>713112824
Because Pauline is Pauline Jr.
And when taking account the events from Super Mario Odyssey, it can only mean that Mario is the father.

>>713112691
>mention something that was directly observed
>post definition
Maybe read that definition, next time, anon.

>>713112824
it's also the explanation you retard

>>713112946
Well, there could also be time travel, or age regression.

>>713108405
considering how much of the 'lore' of Mario games is straight ip fanfiction

>>713113008
do you not know how words work?

>>713113036
the only retard here is the one who think there can be no other explanation for Pauline being 13 in Bananza than a retcon.

You have to be pretty dense to think there exist no other explanation.

>>713113219
damn guess it's either age regression or time travel, you stupid fuck

>>713113132
Apparently, you don't, seeing you can't tell apart assumption from observation.

>>713112596
Source?

>>713113296
you "observing" nintendo doesn't mean you didn't make an assumption

you literal sub 80 iq retard

>>713113267
It could be, or something else.

But at least we can agree that stating the arcade game being retconed out of existence is the only possible explanation is being quite dense and stupid.

>>713113383
>>713099781

>>713105010
The MC’s ages in Pokémon vary from game to game, people just say 10 because that was Ash’s age in the anime.
For example, Red was 11 in the first games and Hilda and Hilbert are 14 - 15.

>>713095032 (OP)
Dont they literally just say in the new trailer that she got de-aged?

>>713113431
>you "observing" nintendo doesn't mean you didn't make an assumption
Mario game maintaining some level of continuity is something that can be objectively observed, so no, not an assumption, moron.

>>713113098
Why are you peddling every theory that isn't the "Mario has moved on from Peach and finally resumed his life with Pauline and had Pauline Jr. with her" theory?

>>713113579
Doesn't mean he didn't break with her before starting courting Peach.

also, that still doesn't make sense he is cheating on Pauline every time he rescue Peach. That's not how relationship works.

>>713113587
No. Her character bio also says she is 13.

>>713113614
I am not rejecting any theory.

>>713099520
Those japs better not fuck up the new version of this.

>>713113587
She only got turned into Odd Rock, there's nothing that implies she was aged down.

>>713113730
Well Mareach certainly isn't moving forward.
Peach friendzoned Mario at the end of the last game, who does that leave Mario with for a romantic partner?

>>713113773
Wouldnt that just be that she got de-aged to 13?

>>713098179
ZAMN!

If she is Mario's daughter, and Rosalina is Luigi's daughter, then they are the Super Mario Cousins.

>>713114070
No

>>713114032
Not wanting to be married yet doesn't mean being friendzoned.

>>713114196
Why not?

>>713099549
>Transformed into a rock
pebblepile game

>>713095032 (OP)
why did they make her barefoot
this literally has to be pedobait

>>713114280
If the twist is that she is de-aged it wouldn't make much sense to give her a fake age.

>>713112102
roasties actually think they can compete lmao

>>713095926
Based

>>713104668
Mario is a chad in-universe, Peach just wants to keep him on a leash

>>713114468
it is 'safe' gooning, like muscular women

>>713095032 (OP)
All evidence points to being either Pauline's daughter/cousin/sister or time travel shenanigans.
>crates have NDC (New Donk Coty) labels
>NDC is seen relatively close from Ingot Isle in the intro
>Diddy, Dixie and Cranky in the game.
>Cranky mentions that DK's banana hoard got stolen again meaning DKC trilogy had to happen already.
And that's not getting into K.Rool schizo theories, but for the sake of the argument:
>the whole plot is reaching the earth's core
>Crocodile Isle sunk into the sea in DKC2's true ending
>literal skeleton krocks roaming around in the undetground.
If anything, I lean more into time travel only because if this is Pauline from the past it would explain why NDC has streets and buildings named after DK characters. The only hole in the theory is the events of arcade DK.

Id be ok with a retcon but they already contradict that idea with Crankys dialogue about Mario which implies DK arcade already happened. You can say he just has dimentia and DK arcade will happen later but then it doesnt explain how Pauline gets to age but none of the other DK characters do, as we see Diddy and adult Pauline together in a few games. Im fine with whatever continutity they go with but they should pick one and stick to it. What will likely happen is that they just have young Pauline in this game and never bring it up again the next time shes an adult, and all the sperging will be for nothing since Mario gets away with baby characters and time travel all the time anyways.

>>713112102
Needs some nappy rash cream.

>>713104325
Girl can't be Jrs

>>713115382
She could just not have a "Jr." in her name, just like how Cranky Kong's son doesn't have a "Jr." in his name.

We need verification of what side you're on
I don't want another Grinch incident where people who are WRONG and DUMB backpedal hard when everyone who is SMART turns out to be RIGHT

>>713099549
>>713099651
Can't be helped if Mario is a stud.

>>713108405
Seriously. Why put more thought into this than Nintendo? Here, let me predict the future for you: we'll get an Ask the Developer with the Bananza staff and it'll go like this:

>MITSUBISHI-SAN: Pauline has returned, but now she's a child?
>HONDA-SAN: Yes. (laughs) We wanted to incorporate music into the new Bananza mode to call back to Donkey Kong Jungle Beat, so we thought it would be good to have a singer accompany Donkey Kong on his journey. At first it was an original character, but Subaru-san suggested we could reuse Pauline's 3D model so we went with that.
>SUBARU-SAN: But it took up too much of the screen to have Donkey Kong carrying the full-size Pauline. So we decided that she should be a younger version, to make it more believable that she could hold on while Donkey Kong is rolling and jumping through the levels.
>MITSUBISHI-SAN: Why is she barefoot?
>ALL: (laughs)

>>713104337
13 year old Pauline would be more believable if her head weren't so big. Her head size is roughly equal to Sofia the First or like the Mystery Twins.

>>713099384
>consistent timeline
>The Koopalings were Bowser's kids for some time until that was changed later to minions.
>Bowser Jr. was introduced while the Koopalings were still Bowser's kids until Miyamoto made that change in 2012.
???
Or we can just forget the consistency of lore in a game that is meant to be for fun?

>>713105408
Pic related.

>>713110029
>no, he's a fictional character not bound by fucking lore
Saying this statement with no self awareness of how dumb it sounds, puts you as the retard.

>>713095032 (OP)
Pauline inspired me to draw
So here it is

>>713116171
7-11 is prime

>>713116171
So Pauline is actually 8

>>713115016
>>NDC is seen relatively close from Ingot Isle in the intro
???

>>713116504
And DK is holding an NDC crate.

>>713116171
normalfags and troons say boys and girls are the same, but you can clearly see dimorphism starts way before puberty

I think its as simple as Pauline getting de-aged and losing her memory. It almost feels like you were not even supposed to be outright told it was Pauline until a revelation at the end of the game.

>>713095032 (OP)
Who cares? They already gave Pauline a triple mastectomy to appease westoids and trannies. What they did to those boobs in her latest appearances is tragic.

>>713113601
you made an assumption on what nintendo would do with their lore you disingenuous fuck

she looks like she gives sloppy rimjobs for fat sugar daddies

>>713116301
super cute, got a full?

>>713116171
u oh
this make me
very hrony and im indian btw
very much love
ToT

>>713116607
Yeah, I wonder how this myth even took root. Anyone that observes the world knows it's a total lie.

If she is de-aged, I hope you can unlock her wearing her oversized, baggy adult dress.

>>713116171
why is the last one trying to assert dominance? like she's trying to do Frieza's pose lmao

>>713118061
because she has the highest power level

>>713095032 (OP)
whens the king k rool reveal, it’s thrash without him

>>713101870
like that hag ghost from luigi's mansion 3.
nintendo and their tropes.
also explains why pauline has big over sized pants.

>>713116069
Lol

>>713095594
She’s not Greek. She’s Italian.

>>713095032 (OP)
They will never address it at all.

>>713104668
Pauline wrote this comment. Mario is a fearless chad
>>713107125
Isn’t TOTK a direct sequel to BOTW?

>>713116069
Fucking saved

It's a distant sequel.
>Cranky Kong is actually Rare DK past his prime
>this new DK is actually Rare DK's son
>Kremlings are gone but are being revived by Void Co.
>kiddo Pauline is actually OG Pauline's daughter, niece, cousin, extended family, etc

>>713095032 (OP)
That's just Pauline without the super mushroom.

>>713117625
loli paizuri and footjobs

>>713117090
Everyone is thicker in the sports games, they're made by Camelot

>>713119686
This is what I’m sort of hoping for

>>713111178
But why did you have to hurt me anon?

It's a Yoshi's Island game but the Yoshi is DK and the baby is Pauline.

So now that we have pre-teen Pauline, what the hell do pre-teen Mario and Luigi look like?

>>713111178
I can’t believe Tai got NTR’d by Sora by stealing his boyfriend

>>713116605
why the fuck does DK not have any IK?
for example when mario is holding a small object, his hands know where the edges are, when he's holding a large object his hands move to the proper positions for the size.
TrannyKong only has the one lazy holding animation.
TKs feet clip into terrain and don't adjust either. this shit is such low effort slop and they're charging $110 for it.

worse still, it's probably made in the Odyssey engine, they just couldn't be bothered adjusting all the details and polish they had in Odyssey.

>>713120742
>Pre-Teen
She's 13. Thir-TEEN.
She's a TEEN.

I hate that I’ll have to suppress my love of mini Pauline so my power level doesn’t show around my friends, I think she’s genuinely just cute and a fun design in a non-sexual way
my want for her to give me a footjob is separate from that

>>713120761
You must leave this thread.
You are not welcome here if you are going to spread disinformation.
Now here, have this wonderful theory.

>>713095032 (OP)
>Freckles
>Wide Hips
>Big Lips
>Mascera with Blue eyes
>Feet if you're into that
>Even pretty realistic clothes and a middle school haircut for a 13 year old
Genuinely the most erotic thing that's came out in years. There's a shot of her slightly from below and she has solid budding A cups already.

>>713095232
no that shit happen

>>713121079
so why is eighteen and nineteen considered """"legally""""" adult?

>>713121476
because they arbitrarily decided that

ts will never surpass the best DK game

>>713101080
kill yourself pedo. The world would be a better place if people like you didn't ruin the hype around this game.

>>713121585
goofy ass society

>>713121132
i wonder if she will get any official merch like Jakks Pacific action figures. Would be a cool character to put in my fictional character appreciation jars.

>>713099781
Miyamoto said that Mario is currently around 24 to 25 years old. so, nope.

>>713121181
>disinformation
he literally has no IK. his hands are in the same position no matter what he's carrying and the carried object just awkwardly floats there.
There are so many refinements and details that Mario Odyssey had but this low effort slop does not.

>>713121238

>>713121640
>ruin the hype
It's really been the opposite.

>>713101870
yea, you re right, this is interesting

>>713121737
Donkey Kong Bananza could take place when Mario is at least 31 years old.

Prequel.

March of the Minis already retconned the Mario/DK rivalry to the current one as it literally had Pauline in it, with Mario/Current DK competing over the toy things.

Odyssey already re-established Pauline as a Singer so she is obviously the older version of Loli-feet Pauline, who aspires to be one.

Timeline is Bananza - DK - DKJR - DK3 - Mario Vs DK series - Odyssey.

DK goes his own separate ways from Mario/Pauline between Mario Vs DK and Odyssey and that is the DK Country series.

Spinoffs, like the Mario ones don't fit anywhere.

>>713102658
nahh this is so shit

>>713095594
Pubes. They listed her age as 13 for a reason.

>>713095032 (OP)
Please let her show up in every single spinoff

>>713095798
She could be a dwarf. She has small, but developed tits and wide hips. Maybe she wears the baggy clothes to mask it.

What's with the crocodile skeletons in the game? Is it a callback to 1 and 2?

>>713105320
game universe and movie universe are different

But where does Stanley fit into the new lore?

>>713096179
Fucking hell those erect nipples

>>713095032 (OP)
Time shenanigans or you play as Cranky (explaining the design)

>>713095032 (OP)
Baby transformation. Nothing else makes much sense.

OH NONONONONO

>people genuinely think there is a mario timeline

go back to zelda / sonic

>>713096589
Budding breasts.

>>713122319
My guess is that the Kremlings went extinct due to some crazy past events and the Void company are either deliberately or unintentionally trying to revive them as a corporate workfroce to increase their work production and profits.

>>713105683
meaningless shit post

>>713122493
bros... the red dress kinda looks like red feathers. kazooie confirmed??

>>713095032 (OP)
Instead of Pauline, Cranky Kong menaced two new and original characters in the past: Lady and Jump Man. The DK cast simply kept the same appearance from Bananza to the present despite the time difference. Would be based beyond belief if Wrinkly was still alive in this game.

>>713122529
>the Kremlings went extinct due to some crazy past events
They got wiped out by the Thanos-snap type reality purge event that also removed the Banjo and Conker characters from Mario's universe.

13 is hot, budding breasts and wispy pubes

>>713122589
Would be so dope if DK had a yellow shorts and blue backpack outfit and Pauline gets a red bird costume.

>>713122493
Would be absolute kino if she is revealed to be mario's daughter and the next 3d mario has her as the main character

>>713122861
Over Miyamoto's dead body.(soon)

>>713095032 (OP)

>>713122897
Miyamoto calls the shots.

>>713111178
Matt was the popular one in Japan, not Tai.
I still don't understand why they drew that scene :^(

>>713122861
Would be insane but Miyamoto doesn't have the balls for that.

>>713121238
no

>>713122493
shitpost

>>713122987
He had them to break up Mario and Pauline, he might have them again to get them back together.
The foundation might have been laid in Super Mario Odyssey.

>>713122861
.

>>713122137
Except NDC exists in this game >>713116605 so it can't be a prequel

may be... Pauline's mother is 'Lady' who has yellow hair.

It's thematically better if it's Pauline Jr. In that case DK (or DK Jr) is making amends for the kidnapping episode that happened a generation earlier.
If it's a prequel to OG Donkey Kong, then Mario and Pauline both look like massive assholes in that game.

>>713123726
No one ever brings up the fact that Pauline with the red dress and brown hair was totally an invention of the promotional artists, and she looks considerably more like Princess Peach in the actual game.

>>713095032 (OP)
>thinks Mario and DK ever had consistent lore
lmao you fags are hilarious

>>713109672

What was the point of hiding Pauline and using the rock faggot as a decoy?
No one cares and I haven't heard anyone talk about it except on THIS BOARD.

>>713095032 (OP)
Donkey Kong Bananza is a pre-sequel with a younger version of DK (from Donkey Kong Country) with a young Pauline, parallel to Super Mario World 2 Yoshi's Island, which It means that Pauline is older than Mario

>>713123874
She did have a red dress on the original arcade marquee art.

>>713109672
Nah, its going to be DK climbing up a tower to save Pauline who was kidnapped by K.Rool.

>>713123726
It's honestly pretty nuts how the names Mario and Pauline were just randomly invented in America and then Shiggy was like "yeah, that can be their names".

>>713095032 (OP)
Game looks unironically so fun. My Switch 2 just arrived today so guess I got this to look forward to.

>>713124192
Wasn't the name Pauline first used for her in the 80s Hannah Barbara cartoon?

>>713124116
not in the in game graphics though

>>713095032 (OP)
retcon. but even then barely because
Pauline didnt have a character to begin with besides damsel in destress until oddessy (theres the toy factory but really it)

>>713124272
yep. that, or at least the names were already stablished before the cartoon was made.

we know that in the arcade was 'Jumpman' and 'Lady'.
possibly they used 'Mario' and 'Pauline' on the console versions (Atari, colecovision, NES).
Saturday SuperCADE, definitely was inspired by the arcade, but used the console names. which leads me to believe Nintendo sent HB a memo when Supercade was being made, asking them to use the console names.

>>713124223
what looks fun about it.
>no platforming
>no tracking or count for bananas you collected.
>spending them on RPG shit like Sonar and Speed, Damage, HP, ect to make an already braindead game even easier.

>>713124378
Sure, but I mean there already was an establishment for her wearing a red dress instead of pink long before DK94 completely re designed her official look. The DK cartoon from the 80s also kept the blonde hair, but still have her a red dress. (would be neat if you can unlock blonde hair and pink dress for her in this game)

>>713124553
Oh let me guess, you play games for content, and not gameplay?

>>713117090
>latest appearances
Like Mario Tennis, Golf, Strikers???
Maybe your just blind.

>>713125178
I knew she had hispaic roots but this confirms she's full blown Spaniard.

>>713124223
>Game looks unironically so fun
The only thing that looks "fun" is the surf move. Game looks like it's gonna be pure, mindless bloat.

I love pauline!
https://files.catbox.moe/0dqaap.png

After the direct, are you more or less confident in K. Rool appearing? Why or why not?

>>713118458
He might happen because his amiibo unlocks stuff here

>>713101080
reminder that you get a 3 day all boards ban if you criticize islam but stuff like this is in every other thread on the second most popular board :^)

>>713095032 (OP)
don't have to fit it in the timeline if there isn't one

>>713126594

>>713126868
Shut up jew. (Testing something nothing personal. Jew.)

>>713095032 (OP)
Neither. Vintage cartoon style incontinuity. The characters are whatever Nintendo needs them to be per game. Take Popeye the sailor for example: Sometimes Popeye and Bluto begin the cartoon as mates, sometime they don't. Sometimes Olive Oyl and Popeye are dating at the start of the cartoon, someone they're not. Their roles shift around to suit the whims of the writers.

For Bananza, someone thought it would be fun to have child Pauline be partner to DK. Likely inspired by Wreck it Ralph. So they made it happen. They're not going to elaborate. They're not going to detail their history. They're not going to provide an ending that resolves the inconsistency with previous games.

You will either accept that the new story doesn't fit the old story, or you will cope by coming up with increasingly autistic fan theories to explain it all.

>>713126594
I'd love to love Pauloli. Vigorously.

>>713126594
why not link your full picrel?

>>713095219
Feet Post Best Post

>>713099781
in the second mario movie we'll definitely get a scene where mario is showing peach new york and they run into pauline and she slaps him for being with another woman and walks off with donkey kong to try and make him jealous

>>713105373
I love seeing 40 year old boomers not being targeted to and feeling disappointed that "their" DK is doing something different.

>>713126684
More. While its still its own, new thing, there are so many little Rare era call backs compared to the Retro era stuff that it would be weird to not have him appear in some capacity, especially after Smash Ultimate. There also all the little hints of things shown to speculate on (Rool type eyes on all the enemies, golden Kremling skeletons, the Paon Rool laugh you can hear during the one Nintendo Treehouse video). Supposedly this is also being made by a younger team of devs who really like the old DK stuff and with how big and bombastic Odyssey was, I just can't see the climax of this game being any less insane and I just dont see Void Kong being set up for such a finale.

(watch its going to be the Tikis as the final enemies)

>>713101080
CUTE!

>>713096589
Body traces are a god-tier fetish.

>>713127106
I wonder if Pauline actually will get written to have a more important role in the sequel because of this game and all her other recent appearances

>>713124804
Not that anon, but I believe he's making the argument that the game is a "content" game, not a "gameplay" game.
If you don't have a decent challenge that forces the player to utilize the mechanics of the game, then what do all of the mechanics serve? Just to allow the player to mindlessly push buttons, and receive empty rewards. That's a content game.
A gameplay game will actually challenge the player, forcing them to utilize the mechanics in adept and/or clever ways.

>>713095232
>Mario is around 24
>Pauline in DKB is 13
>This means Mario had Pauline at 11 years old
>Also literally just named her Pauline again for some reason, not a new name
Only way it's possible is if she's like a future child or something but Mario likes Peach now so I doubt it.

>>713101080
one is on topic
the other isnt

>>713095232

Honestly this whole thing is hilarious. I hope it isn't deaging to create a decade of unhinged lore timelines trying to explain it.

>>713122861
Would Mario even be marketable as a single father?

>>713110738
>Bandaid on buttcheek
Gross

>>713126684
In addition to everything >>713127140 said, VoidCo reference some of the boss fights and minigame "bosses" from DK64, something which I've not seen anyone else point out (which points to how few people have actually played 64 to the end).
I am confident that K Rool will appear in some capacity but what I would say is temper expectations. VoidCo will be the main guys for most or perhaps all of the game, and K Rool will appear at the very end or as an optional challenge.

>>713127625
Goofy is still marketable, do yes.

>>713101870
nope. the problem with the theories of her being de-aged dont work because she doesn't know dk in the cutscene AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, she has little kid dreams about "da bes singer in da wold!"

shes a real kid, not adult pauline. kranky being there means nothing cause he can just be an older kranky and this dk is the kranky we know. the real problem is diddy and dixie. if diddy and dixie are IN the story and not just as other characters in a special game mode, then its modern day. the ONLY thing that can fix this is by making the whole gang except except pauline get sent 10 years into the future. OR she gets sent into the past and walks in as adult pauline and at some point before that, kranky, as a young dk, kidnapped her

>>713127308
This was the problem with Odyssey but already this game looks much more tactile and plain fun to play as a baseline, and there's a layered incentive for bananas (power moons) now with skill points. So I think this game will be a bit harder and a bit more well rounded for gameplay and content.

>>713127428
Or Donkey Kong Bananza takes place 13 years after Odyssey.

>>713127717
>VoidCo reference some of the boss fights and minigame "bosses" from DK64, something which I've not seen anyone else point out (which points to how few people have actually played 64 to the end).
Examples?

>>713121476
16 is considered to be adult in most countries.

>>713127461
I know. She's cave coded, belongs in the jungle.
https://files.catbox.moe/q4fl4q.jpeg
https://files.catbox.moe/2h18w4.jpeg

>>713127717
While I would love him as a boss, imagine if they really are setting Rool up now more as a rival character and when you bean the game, you unlock the Luigi in Mario Galaxy mode of it where you play as K.Rool with many of his new Smash Ultimate quirks like running on all four limbs.

>>713127625
Being a cheat with illegitimate children would make him significantly more relatable as a character.

>>713127625
Just look at Vergil

>>713127835
>nope. the problem with the theories of her being de-aged dont work because she doesn't know dk in the cutscene AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, she has little kid dreams about "da bes singer in da wold!"
She could literally just have amnesia from being de-aged and her "dreams" of being a singer are the lingering memories she had before the spell/potion effected her.

>>713127717
thats because donkey kong 64 sucks desu

>>713128148
>Nintendo trying to attract the black audience

>>713122349
he's the uncle who molests her and thats why shes into short guys like mario

>>713099781
>Miyamoto says Mushroom Kingdom is near New Donk in this article
In Odyssey they're on two different sides of the Earth
Hmmm...

Any sign of the Kremlings, Tikis, or the snow people from TF (I forgot their name)?
Also are there any animals apart from Rambi who are back?

>>713126594
BLOG, NOW

>>713101870
Oh yeah, someone theorized this back when we just had the leaked kid Pauline image, I wonder if that means the antagonists are really the same age as the "Elder" characters you meet that give you the transformation powers?

>>713125615
shes marisa tomei dude. generic new york italian half kike

>>713127295
i cant remember but i think shes running for mayor in the first one. i really hope shes forced to interact with peach, since a mayor would have to at least speak to the princess from the world bowser came from. when they meet i hope theres tension over mario

I hope we get Dk Junior jumpsuit outfit (for DK OR Pauline) and Chunky Kong outfit for DK (and lore accurate Dixie Kong outfit for Pauline)

>>713128027
anon please don't tell me you only upload stuff randomly on these threads, you must have a site where you upload like pixiv or sadpanda, right?

>>713129296
I thought she was just a news hostess in the first

>>713128234
sure but then why wouldnt dk say "hey you got de-aged. im your friend donkey kong and you are the mayor of new donk city and a popular singer"

>>713121238
Please put Koizumi in charge of Nintendo IP.

>>713105457
This one thing throws all theories into the trash LOL

>>713129478
>sure but then why wouldnt dk say "hey you got de-aged. im your friend donkey kong and you are the mayor of new donk city and a popular singer"
Because he is a dumb ape.

>>713105457
>NDC is already founded in Donkey Kong Bananza.
To be fair, New Donk already existed in previous DK games, just under a different name. In DK94 its "Big City" and in DK Land its "Big Ape City", both implied, or outright stated in the instruction manual, to be the settings of the original arcade game.

>>713129751
>grabs pauline
>uses her like a fleshlight
OOH BANANA

>>713106641
>they're changing up the franchise
Mario vs DK literally just got a remake, showing the DK kidnapping Pauline thing is still the canon backstory.

>>713127838
You might have said the same thing about Tears of the Kingdom. But in the end, it was just a mindless content game. A display of mechanics, is not necessarily a display of rewarding gameplay.

>>713122502
Regardless if Nintendo cares that much, it's somehow consistent to this day. I hope this game doesn't muck it up or retcon anything. Most of the games that take place in the past or use time travel don't contradict anything, or at least haven't since Mario's origin was cemented in Yoshi's Island 1