Thread 713110850

Is there any way of defending this without looking like a shill?

>>713110850 (OP)
seems better than just pure downloads since they have publisher-supported resale value.

>>713110850 (OP)
How is this any different than what Sony or Microsoft does? PS5 games are not all on the disc and you have to download the rest.

defend what? its not nintendo doing this but thirt party and its a digital license that you can resell. how is that a bad thing?

Why defend this shit at all? If nintendo isn't paying you then why give a fuck. Just play your games without being a walking corporate mouth piece.

>>713110850 (OP)
When I first got my own non-junk PC, to play FF14 Heavensward back in the day, I foolishly assumed that you could just buy physical games to avoid downloading 100gb of data. Little did I know that inside the case was just a download code.

>>713110850 (OP)

I don't see what the point is? The developer still has to make the card and the box and still ship it? Why not just put the game on the cart then? What trickery am I missing here?

>>713110850 (OP)
>defend nintendo against shit they aren't doing
Huh?

>>713112249
For what it's worth, you can resell the key cards since they are physical keys.

>>713110850 (OP)
It's better than digital only, but there's no guarantees it will work forever.
However, actually just keeping a download server is a lot cheaper than keeping a store running, which is how the Wii/DS/3DS situation are now.

>>713110850 (OP)
As long as I can resell it I don't give a shit.

>>713111454
until the download servers go offline. same as it ever was, really

>>713110850 (OP)
If I sell my key what's stopping me from still using it later? I mean even if only one person can use it at a time that's still multiple people with one key.

wait until you hear about digital only consoles

>>713110850 (OP)
Don't try to convince total strangers on the internet that something a company is doing is good, there is zero benefit to you or the world.

>>713112249
The full game cart is more expensive than the key to manufacture. It's way almost all the third party games are cheaper

>>713112307
>create the problem
>sell the solution

shills: it's not ninny's fault they made the cart size small and offer companies to sell empty carts

>>713112249
a 64gig cart costs $15.00 to manufacture, a key card costs $0.15

>>713112771
You dumbfuck. The reason companies go with the cart keys is because the carts are too LARGE, and Nintendo doesn't decide the size of the cards. Use your FUCKING BRAIN.

>>713112771
>>create the problem
How are they the ones who created the problem when the problem is the RESULT of the cartridge format they're using for faster loading times? What do you propose nintendo uses?

>>713112489
so, something that has never been a problem?

>>713113324
can you still download super mario bros 35, anon?

>BUT YOU CAN RESELL THEMa
Why would you? Selling games is only for people who hate video games. Why wouldn't you keep them forever?

You can buy and sell them pre-owned so they are automatically better than buying something off the eshop that you can't sell if you have buyers remorse

>>713113624
seems like it's better than not being able to

>>713112489
This has literally never happened (yet).
You can still download your previously purchased Wii, 3DS and WiiU games right now.

>>713113797
If it's useless, then why include it? Everyone swears up and down that Nintendo games are masterpieces that you can replay endlessly. Selling them is an admittance that this is a lie.

>>713113624
So you can buy a game from someone in a year pre-owned for $30 instead of giving jewtendo or other companies full RRP

>>713113624
>buy shitty video game
>can at least get a quarter if I’m lucky at fucking gamestop

>>713113887
it's not useless compared to nothing

>>713113887
It's not just Nintendo games than are on the digital game carts though? You buy a capcom/namco/sega/konami game and it turns out to be shit so you sell it and get 95% of your money back.

You buy it on eshop and the game is shit then youre fucked. Thanks for the money, goy

>>713113839
That was something i didn't understood until i thought a bit.
The download server itself can be quite small, and do literally nothing but idle until someone comes back from the crypt and asks it for a file.
It need to have a big storage to store all the old gen games, but it's probably not even 10tb.

>>713110850 (OP)
see that red label on the top? that's all I need to see

day one buy

>>713114000
Then why can't you mod these games, like you could PC games? Shouldn't physical copies and these special download cards allow you to do that?

>>713114015
>You buy a capcom/namco/sega/konami game and it turns out to be shit so you sell it and get 95% of your money back.

why would you buy a shit game in the first place?

>>713113887
For like the 5th time this thread alone: NINTENDO games are all ON THE CARD.

>>713114108
Because you don't know a game is shit until you buy it and play it.

>>713114226
>>you need to eat to know that it tastes bad

>>713114332
*eat shit

>>713114332
>food analogy

The wheel in the sky keeps on turnin~

>>713110850 (OP)
You can resell them so i don't see the problem.

>>713110850 (OP)
it's better than "code in a box" games at least
that was just useless plastic waste with no reason to exist

>>713114674
But why?

>>713110850 (OP)
Sure. Key cards is just digital as it always was, with added benefits.

>>713114332
>Company convinces you that this tasty looking pizza is tasty with great marketing
>You buy it
>It tastes like shit

>>713114974
Because Nintendo allows you to sell digital games if they're in the keycard format unlike Valve Gog, Sony, or Microsoft who don't allow you to sell digital games.

>>713110850 (OP)
Honestly, if it's not tied down to a console then I see it better than download codes

>>713114128
>NINTENDO games are all ON THE CARD.
Plural?

When there's a whopping 1 of them out in the world, that being Mario Kart?

Unless you want to count the Zelda rereleases, which are still just switch 1 carts.

>>713111631
that doesn't make it okay

>>713115182
That's kind of your fault for falling for propaganda and marketing.

>>713115267
You're still not answering why I would want to sell them. If the game is good, I want to keep it forever, and if it's shit, I wouldn't have bought it in the first place. Do you guys really have no idea how to judge a game's quality?

>>713113547
I can still download shit on my Wii, yes

>>713115337
Well it is ok.

>>713113624
>Why would you?
It's a poorfag thing.
I never understood the obsession with "resell value" considering most of them only get maybe 3x back on their "investment" at best after 10-20 years pass.
But on the other hand, I live in a first-world country where I don't have to make the decision between eating food for a week and a video game.

>>713110850 (OP)
Every disc game these days is basically a keycard so I don’t give a shit.

>>713115426
retard

Square Enix and Capcom are cheap, just don't buy their games

>>713115361
Every platform allows you to refund digital games you bought.

>>713115487
PC vegan.

>>713115052
the added benefit of having to put the card into the system to play it while the entire game sits on your system digitally. the worst of both worlds.

>>713115337
Yeah it does actually. Stop giving a shit and go outside

>>713115452
you should. your apathy is letting this shit happen.

>>713115672
Then opt out and just buy the digital version if the benefits of keycards aren't benefits to you personally.

>>713115590
Piracy already solved that issue by letting people try a game out beforehand.

>>713115361
A huge percentage of gamers (not me mind you) resell games / trade them in for credit for new games extremely often, I think its less common now than it was in the past but even 10 years ago there would always, every single time I was in a gamestop, be multiple people lined up to trade in their old games for new ones.
Normies do not give a shit about replaying old classics once they've beaten the game its done, time to get a new one.

To answer OP's question its literally just to appease third parties who dont wanna play for expensive cartridges but want physical store presence, its on them to not use it, not Nintendo for giving an option.
Of course the only reason any sane person would buy a Nintendo System is for it's exclusives, and the exclusives will most definitely all be real physical games, since the kinds of publishers who opt to use game key cards never cared about their port in the first place and just want to make a quick cheap buck off the new console release.
Mind you I'm retarded for still being a physicalfag when we have data to show that the physical version of a switch 2 game is literally the worst version you could own in terms of load times.

>>713115754
Nothing ever changes. You don’t make a difference. You’ll realize this when you’re past 30.

>>713115769
>>713115754
>>713115752
>>713115668
there is some serious mental illness in this thread

>>713115830
I already knew that.

>>713115769
How is having to swap empty cartridges a benefit to you? Genuinely curious.

>zelda
>normal

Bro it is a Switch 1 game in a Switch 2 box.

>>713115871
You'll survive champ

>>713110850 (OP)
good job, you brought a bunch of sheep who love key cards and key discs out into the open

>>713110850 (OP)
>boot up MKW
>have to update to play online
wtf I thought the whole game was on the cart

>>713115904
Ask the people who saw Microsoft get embarassed at E3 2013 when Sony did a skit about how your friends can play your game.

>>713110850 (OP)
I will fix this issue for Nigtendo.
>Issue: Switch 2 carts are too big and expensive for smaller game. some say cart is 64GB minimum
>Fix: offer the smaller games a switch 1 cart to put the full game in and have the switch 2 copy partial components to the internal or SD storage
Boom, and it's still physical because the cart will always have the full game and can be used offline forever

>>713116278
>Boom
updooted

>>713116278
Isn't better to just make a very cheap media that install the game for you?
>But it's 256gb console
Yes this really is a problem I can't deny that but it would fix the key card crap.

>>713111631
It's different because you weren't okay with it until Nintendo did it

>>713116221
Yes, I remember that. Especially the part where they said you didn't need to have your PS4 be online to play disc based games.

>>713110850 (OP)
Nintendo is shit now. sorry, you can't defend this and make them look good. along with charging $80 for a fucking empty case and a useless game cart.

>>713112489
Or they just decide to remove it from their libraries. Or update the games to worse versions and delete the originals.

>>713116717
Nice so you understand that sharing games between friends can be a benefit. Glad to teach you something. What else do you want to know?

>>713112547
there are already screenshots of “this key is in use by another device”

>>713116618
>$70
$90, when Pokemon Gen 10 rears its ugly head for the 30th anniversary next year.

>>713116974
An answer to my original question.

>>713117139
I did.

>>713117190
You did not, you went on a tangent.

>>713117209
If you don't have any friends or social contacts that's fine. Most PC vegans don't. That doesn't mean game swapping isn't a benefit.

>>713111454
>better than pure digital
fucking how? the physical cart won't work without the forced download and your download won't work without the physical cart. key carts are fucking worse than steam DRM

>>713117346
>fucking how?
You can sell them or let your friends play them

>>713117465
You still dont own the games though on a cart. Its an extra step. You HAVE to have the keycart inserted to play your digital game that is ALREADY downloaded.

>>713112547
Game key cards have the game key inside a cartridge, you can't see the key whatsoever it just allows you sw2 to download and play the game and you can sell the cart to anyone else and he can download the game. Obviously you need the cart to play.

>>713112489
>until the download servers go offline

When is that happening? 2050?

>>713117709
The same time steam will go bankrupt, which you claim will happen any day now.

>>713117331
Sorry to break your feeble attempt at an ad hominem but I'm fairly sure I was swapping NES carts around with friends before you were even born. Sure, play the age card next. At least those games still work decades later.

>>713117564
I knew that already.

>>713116137
U wut m8? An update/patch is just a few MB in size

>>713115979
You won't chimp

>>713117465
>sell key cart
>can no longer play the download because i don't have the cart anymore
the fuck jewtendo??

>>713117760
Glad we agree that swapping games between friends is a benefit of key cards.

>>713116976
That is just for digital purchases that comes with a key to redeem, not game-key cards.

>>713117901
But you can do that with pure digital too, and digital games are free.

>>713113839
Yeah what about your DSi e-shop games. Can't download them officially now can you. Dickhead

patches sully a lot of the appeal of physical anyway, storage space notwithstanding

>>713117856
Why's that?
>>713117897
>I can't have my cake and eat it too
Typically

>>713117897
Just like a physical game, go figure

>>713117963
You can redownload them right now.

>>713117958
They would have to already be on your family plan, and you can't sell pure digital games. Like I said, digital as it always was, with some benefits.

>>713118186
>and you can't sell pure digital games.
I see that as a benefit. Only poorfags would sell games. You're not poor, are you?

>>713118295
No I have comfortable wealth.

>>713118363
Then a lack of sellability is a plus. Filters the poor people.

>>713112849
That’s retail cost.

>>713110850 (OP)
You can’t considering Nintendo created this problem by refusing to make bulk order for carts less than 64gb + putting a premium up sale difference per cart manufactured by their source to pocket for themselves. They created this problem and made an alternative, key cards. I wish you faggots would learn no company is going to have a giga expensive cart that eats up half the price of each of their games. They’d rather take the route Nintendo has pigeon holed third parties instead. Even CDPR said that the cart is too expensive with the Witcher and decided to give it ago again with Cyberpunk hoping it’ll sell a gorillion (which it won’t).

Nintendo made this problem. Stop coming at the third party companies throats. Would you rather have no port to begin with? Again, this is a Nintendo made problem. And ironically, they are keeping the 64gb carts for themselves to make others look like shit even though they’re forced off the cliff to even release their games.

>>713112849
>64gig cart costs $15.00 to manufacture
That’s the 32gb version and it’s more close to $22 anon.

>>713118415
I never said it was a benefit to me personally. I have no intention of ever buying a key card.

>>713110850 (OP)
Game key cards are infinitely better than having fucking download codes that are tied to your online account. The fact they did that with Switch 1 games is still so bizarre. Especially when some games were split. Like FFX/FFX-2 for regions other than asian. Used copies will forever be half a game (FFX) because the other one got permanently redeemed (FFX-2).
What were they thinking?

>>713118659
>buy brand new game
>actually goyim you have to wait 5 hours to download at 3mb/s at the airport or hotel for the brand new game you just spent $80+tax on($90)

Nintendo is at fault. They ruined their reputation massively by not fronting the cost of keycards for third party publishers coming to the platform. Now they suffer and they betrayed their entire fanbase, collectors, normies, everyone in one fell swoop. The switch 2 is a massive flop.

This would be different if it was a home console like an xbox or a PC where you can manage and store files like the rog ally's.

But it's not, It's a locked down portable console with game carts.

>>713119164
Agree to disagree.

>>713111631
Most PS5 and 4 games are on the disc. I don't know how xbox does it though.

>Nintendo lets you redownload stuff from their shops
Assuming you still have the hardware for it. That's the flaw here. Their games should have permanent forwards and backwards compatibility. Why can't the switch let me download my DSi games and WiiU and 3DS games? The entirety of Nintendo's catalogue should already be on the damn console, and they shouldn't be drip feeding us games.

>>713111631
Carts are expensive. What's Sony's excuse? IT costs half a penny to print a bluray. or whatever.

>>713119775
KEK just stick to your PC dumb vegan

>>713119936
*downloads games I bought 20 years ago*

haha don't mind if I do!

ITT

ITT

>>713120037
Same as any consoles. Have fun!

>>713120360
>play on switch 2
>can't download any of my 3DS or WiiU games

People will pay 450 burger dollars for this.

>>713120456
So I can play my PSP and PSVita games on my PS5, right?

>>713110850 (OP)
why are tendies blaming third parties, not nutendo for these jew carts? i can't imagine it costs more than a few dollars per cart for the storage space since it's so fucking cheap so why didn't nutendo just front the cost for them instead of jewing third parties for the difference? seems more like nutendo just wants to yeet physical carts completely by their next generation and is throwing third party games under the bus to ease their pay piggies into going full digital

>>713112232
Probably a good thing given that SE shipped cracked discs for FFXI CoP expac that exploded inside and destroyed CD drives

>>713120456
Sounds like you should be playing on PC if that's a concern for you. Have fun, PC vegan!

>>713120672
No, you can't. BUT you can play PSP and Psvita games on your PC. As well as anything else from 2023 and prior.

>>713110850 (OP)
can i just not care

>>713120810
Is Vita emulation actually a thing nowadays? I know PSP emulation is pretty good.

>>713120810
Enjoy those PSP and Vita games, PC vegan!

>>713121001
VIta3k has 70% compatibility with all games currently.

>>713110850 (OP)
Hi. 90 physical Switch games here. Shall not be buying game key cards or 80 dollar games. Still using my Switch 2 for BC.

It's over

>>713120360
>Same as any consoles.
Okay! Let me just go on my Wii and... oh, never mind.

>>713121649
>Let me just go on my Wii and download games I bought 18 years ago
Correct.

steamies already spent decades defending the murder of game ownership and physical media, why do you only care when third parties do it on a nintendo platform?

>>713121749
Okay buddy, show me the OFFICIAL way of doing it.
Because if you're going to tell me "just change your IP address and do this so you can connetct to a third-party server and-!" I'mma pirate it on a website instead. Easier and faster.

>>713121783
Because steamies can take their clean files, use goldbergemu and burn their games to bluray discs.

Valve gives you the clean files and many times it has no real DRM.

>>713121957
Sure, go to www.google.com and ask "how do I download wii games that I purchased"

>>713110850 (OP)
>Is there any way of defending this without looking like a shill?
No, you are a shill if you defend it. I like my Switch 2 but the game key card thing is fucked. We can already see it raping the sales, nobody is buying these things over real carts.

>>713116137
>this 10 mb hotfix ruined my gaming night
Then just keep playing it offline, retard.

>>713118158
DSiware shop is actually 100% down. Same with the PSP's store. With the PSP you can still download from the PS3 version of the store and transfer it to your PSP, but both the DSi and PSP are so easy to hack that you should do that instead and just get what you want elsewhere.

>>713121057
Toddler

>>713121783
Steam has never taken away my ability to download my games.

>>713122802
neither has nintendo
you can download any games purchased on the wii

>>713122680
Idort actually

>>713122802
Neither has any consoles. But I do know what was taken from you in 2003.

>>713110850 (OP)
It's better than a code in a box.
Not nearly as good as on the cartridge. I'll stick with digital since that's my preferred method.

>>713121783
Can you play 3DS and WiiU games on your Switch 2? Can you play PSP or Vita games on your PS5?

For all this kvetching about game ownership, I've never once been unable to play a game I got on PC.

>>713123453
The Crew.

>>713123618
Never bought it in the first place because it was live service trash. Please don't tell me you consume whatever diarrhea gets advertised.

>>713123778
>that doesn't count
Can you play Half-Slop 2 on the systems that it was originally released on?

>>713123778
You posted petitions for months over the removal of this game because you cared very much about it. Sorry. Try another excuse.

>>713113797
At that point, not having to fiddle with cartridges is a better selling point. It's always going to be taking up the same amount of space on my system/SD card as if I buy it digitally, so why not just buy it digitally?

>>713121057
Looks very empty. Is it fun to just drive around?

>>713123453
>Can you play 3DS and WiiU games on your Switch 2? Can you play PSP or Vita games on your PS5?
That makes no sense at all.

>never once been unable to play a game
So can you still play Steam games on a Windows XP computer then?
You know a computer on which people paid for Steam-slop?

>everything works flawlessly
without any user made patches?
I seriously doubt that.

And you are not allowed by Valve to play on original computers. You are forced into e-waste, like Nintendo bricking Gamecube, Wii and Wii U as well as Siwtch 1 and telling you to get a Switch 2 or else.

>>713123778
>live service
but you like Steam, that is live service.

>>713124320
>Consolefag tries to explain PCs
If only there was a way to play old games on original computers that didn't require steam...

>>713124440
>I can hack!!!!
I accept your concession, subscriber slave.
>and steal
dark hands wrote this

>>713124440
>Master Valve doesn't allow me to play games anymore on my older computers, but I can sneak to the cotton field and pick some cotton
So much about master race.

You sound like an abused house wife.

>>713124303
I wouldn't worry about it. You'll never be able to play this game.

>>713124440
You can hack any console eventially as well.

>>713110850 (OP)
why would you get any game on the switch that's multiplatform to begin with? even a toaster would run most of those better than the switch. you get the switch for tendie-sclusies

>>713124440
>If only I could hack
Hey, PCigger
I can hack Gamecube, Wii, Wii U and Shitch as well, but I don't need to, because Nintendo DOES NOT LOCK ME OUT OF DEVICES, unlike your garbage Valve, whom you give 30%, you fucking moron.

>>713124906
>why would you get any game on the switch that's multiplatform to begin with?
Alien Isolation has everything on cart.
Meanwhile all other releases don't have the DLC on disc.

>>713110850 (OP)
>Is there any way of defending this without looking like a shill?
The consumer was fine and gave money when Steam and PS360 brought digital. There's no reason to complain about now and exposes the retarded shiftflinging at Nintendo just for being Nintendo. I hope third parties that will abuse the keycards thing don't sell in Switch 2

>>713119164
>Nintendo is at fault. They ruined their reputation massively by not fronting the cost of keycards for third party publishers coming to the platform. Now they suffer and they betrayed their entire fanbase, collectors, normies, everyone in one fell swoop. The switch 2 is a massive flop.
The switch 2 is not a flop lmao. Also normies dont give a shit about keycards. Literaly non issue. And im saying this as someone that doesnt even like Nintendo.

>>713110850 (OP)
Nintendo isn't doing this. In fact Nintendo has been the king of compression and optimization for years.

Nintendo shouldn't have to handhold other devs on this shit. lmao

The switch 2 uses 64gb cartridges.

The witcher 3 with all of its dlcs is 50-60gb.

Come on dude do you want Nintendo to babysit devs on how to fucking optimize?

Optimization that used to be the standard back in the 80s and 90s.

>>713112849
>a key card costs $0.15
too much for the poor third party publisher/devs...

>>713115549
THIS IS THE WAY

>>713110850 (OP)
>Nintendo servers shut down
>Left with nothing but a chunk of plastic and some copper.
Nintendofags really are fucking stupid.

>>713125268
>compression
>only has ultra expensive but slow as fuck 64gb carts
choose one

>>713125268
>Nintendo shouldn't have to handhold other devs on this shit. lmao
Apparently they're the devil for not giving too many options to devs. But when they do they're the devil

>>713125409
It's the same as with Steam.
Why do Steamies never complain about Valve, but always complain about Nintendo, when Nintendo is literally doing the same thing?

>>713125268
>The switch 2 uses 64gb cartridges.
More than enough space imo. Faggot devs need to die if they don't/refuse to do their compressing work.

>>713125409
Not as stupid as PC vegans who accepted and normalized this treatment back in 2003.

>>713122430
You can't BUY new shit but you certainly can redownload your purchases right fucking now.

>>713122430
>PSP's store. With the PSP you can still download from the PS3
In reality the PSP Comics store is completely down.
Redownloads have not been possible for years.

That's le digital future, for the retards who think paying for a digital rental would be a good idea.

>>713125654
Go try it. Go.

>>713125457
They are literally telling a billion dollar company to lower their standards. I mean the jokes write themselves.

>>713125781
Only own 3DS, that works fine including DSi content.

https://en-americas-support.nintendo.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/7030/~/how-to-redownload-nintendo-dsi-shop-content
>but but Nintendo is lying
it seems you are lying.

>>713126043
That page hasn't been updated. They took the download servers for the DSi down in 2015. It has been down for a decade.

>>713125781
Done, what now faggot?

>>713126119
You're fucking retarded, online games and buying shut down but you can redownload everything you had, same about everything on the wii eshop. kys

>>713125941
>. I mean the jokes write themselves.
That's people projecting their expectations binded them to money. Nintendo was always a game company; their deal has never been tech excellence in any regard, now microsoft... jesus, what a cesspool that one is

let's all take a breather and appreciate the console that actually let's you own your games. offline and forever. until the end of times.

>>713126119
>download servers
the page literally says that you can't buy, but re-download.
Online is down of course, but that wasn't even Nintendo, but a PC multiplayer service, which also took down tons of PC games, which Steamies always try to downplay.

>>713126806
>>713126806
>>713126806
Yeah after those GBs of patches

>>713126806
That's every console. If not currently, then the next gen port will absolutely be fully on disc/cart with all the patches and DLC.

>>713127046
That's only correct for some games.
Other games don't have any patches, or only small patches.
Doesitplay is a helpful source.

>>713127330
>then the next gen port will absolutely be fully on disc/cart
That's actually wrong.

Star Wars Jedi: Survivor for PS4 is fully on disc.
Star Wars Jedi: Survivor for PS5 is not fully on disc

>>713127330
I see them going back with tail between the legs once they fail for their digital push; one of their reasons to kill digital is saving budget trying to gain empathy from the cucked consumer but when their model is unsustainable as it is and has been since the 7th generation no amount of cut costs is going to prevent their collapse and, at best, it's going to merely delay it. Then that minimal amount for their physical version ain't going to look that bad compared to the millions wasted and fueled by poor decision making.

>>713127730
>Star Wars Jedi: Survivor for PS5 is not fully on disc
100 GB "patch" LOL

>>713127730
Ok so buy the PS4 version
>>713127742
Digital only is the future thanks to Valve.

>>713127940
>Digital only is the future
do nothing and digital only will disappear.

>>713127940
>Digital only is the future thanks to Valve.
Not nearly the point, anon. PC is done until Steam's collapse but that will barely happen with all the loyalism towards it. More importantly; it wasn't the future, it was a manufactured impression companies were meme'd into and their trend chasing itch got triggered.

>>713110850 (OP)
Its useful as fuck with kids.

>>713110850 (OP)
Hello shill. The answer is no. Get fucked.

>>713128173
Agreed. $10 digital and maybe it's a deal, maybe.

>>713110850 (OP)
what about people with shitty internet?
switch was my go to console because it didn't need a network connection to be usable for 99% of my games

>>713112489
People sure love to throw around this excuse considering this has literally never happened

>>713128186
>until Steam's collapse but that will barely happen with all the loyalism towards it
there only needs to be an actual legal system in place.
then arrest everyone at Valve for gambling and other illegal activities and its over.

and then use their money to give at least all minors all money back. that would be fair.

>>713128487
>what about people with shitty internet?
>switch was my go to console because it didn't need a network connection to be usable for 99% of my games

We here at Nintendo have a device for people without internet.
It's called the Switch 1.

>>713124303
Yeah kinda cus when you get on the highways its filled with other vehicles. And yeah, they are just silly NPCs but it does give the illusion of a living mushroom kingdom. And then you start finding little challenges or Easter eggs n shit, like a hidden mini SNES era course that you race around in and it doesn't exist in the actual game tracks.

>>713112489
any day now....

>>713112547
the same thing that stops you from playing a PS5 game without the disc, come on anon, this disc checks has been around since CDs first showed up on PC

>>713128792
>We here at Nintendo have a device for people without internet. It's called the Switch 1.
>nintendo even survived a Don Mattrick guy like Bowser
Understated the power of Nintendo's success coming out of Switch or speaks volume on how American/Western branches are seen?

>>713118295
>>713118415
>you're not poor are you?
no, i'm pretty rich from scalping.

>>713124906
Wolfenstein 2, Youngblood, and Doom Eternal don't have motion aiming on any console or PC except switch.
>But you can use use motion on PC
And it's simulating mouse aiming, it isn't actually patched with the motion support.

>>713128792
How shit is your internet that you can't even handle a one time download? like shit it might take 8 hours, but you can just run that shit overnight unless you're shutting off your internet overnight to hide from russian missiles or something.

>>713125268
>>713125268
Witcher 3 also is on Switchnon cart. That's crazy. Meanwhile even last gen Capcom couldn't be assed to pay for the 8GB cartridge for rom collections so they would give you half the game on a digital code because they only wanted to pay for the 2GB cart.

>>713129471
how about nintendo is simply putting games on cart again? huh?
is that too much?
is nintendo poor?

>>713110850 (OP)
does the game get downloaded to the card? If not, what is even the point

>>713129545
Nintendo does retard, but if you can shitpost on /v/ you can download a game.

>>713126806
90% of those games require a day 1 50GB patch.

>>713129641
No, Nintendo is directly responsible for this mess.

>>713129648
that's false.

>>713129545
Why? Do you suddenly like physical games again lil vegan bro?

>>713129545
Nintendo IS you fucking retard.

>>713129737
What mess?

snoys seem to think you have to defend everything your favorite company does or you're not a real fan or something

>>713129939
No, they don't.
Otherwise there would be no gay key shit, and no code in box shit.

3DS had no gay key shit or download half of the game.
How did they do that, huh?

>>713130037
You'll survive

>>713130010
physical scam releases.
Nutnendo is the platform holder, they control everything.
They allow that shit, ergo they are responsible.

>>713130137
Responsible for something you're ok with. I don't see why you're angry.

>>713110850 (OP)
Anything listed as game-key cards are just shovelware not worth your time.

>>713130373
link to post

>>713130465
No.

Not defending it, but also I just do digital because I never really cared about collecting SD Cards. I do think for physical collectors this policy is a half-measure to get everyone on board with all digital.

It's truly odd to want to collect physical Switch 2 games when they are just boxes with download codes.

>>713130685
>It's truly odd to want to collect physical Switch 2 games
We don't.
We don't buy Switch 2 nor these games.
We don't spend money on garbage and scams.
>to get everyone on board with all digital
pic related

>>713131047
>>>/pol/

>>713131132
no, it's literally the same.
too many collectors leaving and your shitty Switch 2 fails and digital only is over.

comply and you create your own hell.
Choose wisely.

Nintendo needs collectors.
Collectors don't need Nintendo.

>>713131319
In two more weeks Im sure lil /pol/ bro

>>713130137
>physical scam releases.
PC, almost every cancer of modern gaming comes from there, this one included. You saw "physical" releases with the box having nothing a code sticker inside. That's a decade ago at least.

>>713131319
People still bought Switch 2 tho. I am not a fanboy and I don't agree with most of their moves, but there is a lot of grandstanding about how Switch 2 will fail because of Nintendo's corporate policies. Seems from a pure console sales standpoint Switch 2 is an all time best seller.

Third-party game sales are extremely low, most of which seem to be the "download code games". The conundrum is that this sales data can be interpreted by Nintendo to mean they are correct about an all digital future. Before long it will make zero sense for publishers to attempt a physical release since it will be pointless sales wise.

>>713132139
2003 was when Steam started selling you nothing but a code. You didn't even get a box to display.

>>713125589
>>713125527
Steam is never shutting down. Meanwhile Nintendo and every other console manufacturer shuts down online for their old systems. You guys are fucking idiots.

>>713132490
But Steam wasn't a thing until 2007 or so and when PC physical gutting began it wasn't bound to Steam but PC releases aside it where doing it. Sure, it's big one at fault but not the complete responsible one.

>>713132703
>Meanwhile Nintendo and every other console manufacturer shuts down online for their old systems
As it should; online is not and shouldn't be mandatory to videogames.

>>713110850 (OP)
the full game is not on the first party card. the game requires an Internet connection to authenticate the certificate which means it’s not on the cart

>>713110850 (OP)
Its not possible to dump these unless someone blows the Switch 2' security wide open right? So they're trying to bar people from preserving the game and at the same time stop piracy? So they key card is just an empty cart that lets you download and play the game for free? free being you have access to it as long as you own the key card?

>>713111631
Yea and people hate it

>>713133428
Not enough to counter all the journo shilling, companies still gets the signal that they can pull it of until then it will only continue

>>713131047
>Scams
>says exactly what it is on the box
there's really no way to not "scam" retards like you who refuse to read.

>>713110850 (OP)
No. No, there fucking isn't. Only the most peanut-brained giga-retards would defend this dogshit.

>>713111631
It's not too different, but it's not a practice that tendies supported.

>>713110850 (OP)
whats to defend? apparently Game-Key games are selling below expectations.

Mario Kart World and surprisingly Cyberpunk 2077 sales have been quite good i hear but the rest of the lineup of 3rd party game-key games have had really low sales.

>>713134494
>Cyberpunk 2077 sales have been quite good
Speaks volumes of the modern consoomer when shit like that manages to sell after release

>>713113839
You can't download poke transporter though

>>713135405
it is pretty much the only switch 2 3rd party doing any sort of numbers, of course they actually optioned to put the game on a cartridge instead of a game-key.

my guess is people are seeing game-keys and just grabbing digital of those titles if they are buying them at all.