Thread 713115134

Nintendo killed physical and we just let them get away with it

maybe but then someone can swoop in and fill in their niche

>>713115134 (OP)
And they're selling like ass.

It's hilarious watching this from a PC gamer perspective, because for PC all digital ownership was liberating. While for consoles it's just more restrictive.

>>713115379
Faggot zoomer kys

>nintendo killed physical games
>by continuing to sell physical games
another seething vegan misinformation thread

>>713115134 (OP)
Turd parties gambled and is biting them in the ass because nobody is buying GKCs
>But Nintendo!
Turd parties are the ones that asked for that, they even thanked Nintendo for key cards.

>>713115379
PC by far used to have the best physical releases, the manuals and maps and shit that used to come with PC games were fucking premium and mogged any console shit.
Seeing the hobby degrade to digital downloads only so third worlders can buy $2 games off of steam was ten times more depressing than square and capcom rereleasing ten year old games on key cards

>>713115134 (OP)
steam killed it first

>>713115134 (OP)
It's just digital as it always was with added benefits. Valve killed physical in 2003 btw.

>physical sales have been in decline for years.
>people use steam over any other storefront.
>Even if they do buy physical, they support Limited Run Games, the company known to bundle physical releases.
Seems like gamers supported the death of physical games and buried it themselves.

>>713115134 (OP)
Valve killed physical.

>>713116539
i too miss boxes and manuals even consoles dont those for quite a long time but the experience of installing a PC game through 4 discs was annoying as fuck.
just hitting the torrent/steam is way more practical.

>>713115134 (OP)
How? According to the picture Nintendo's games are on the cards.

But the big 2 nintendo games on switch 2 MK and DK both fit on the cartridge.
Game key carts are for people who don't want to work to compress their game to fit on a cartridge

>>713115379
Digital on PC is only "liberating" if you can do whatever you want with the installer. Can you install it on every computer you have at the same time? Can you install it on a friends computer for them to try out? If so then it's great but if not then it sucks

>Nintendo killed phys-
BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAP
>a-and we just le-
BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAP
>t-them get away with-
HAVE A ROTTEN DAY

>>713119737
Game key carts are for penny pinching third party publishers like Capcom and Square Enix who probably told Nintendo they wouldn't support their console at all if they didn't have a budget option like this

>>713117262
stop peddling this bullshit. if it were "digital as it always was" then I could play game key card games without having the game inserted. hell, having to insert the game card once for a week of time would be good. but no, it's shit and so are you for continually trying to push this idiotic narrative.

>>713115134 (OP)
just dont buy it until they start making smaller cartridge sizes again

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Nintendo-Switch-2-leak-about-cartridge-sizes-reveals-why-Game-Key-Cards-are-preferred.1014131.0.html

>>713121059
You can still buy digital only games from the e-store.

It's been dead since games required huge patches on day one or huge patches later on that basically has you redownload the whole game and dlc before playing.

>>713115134 (OP)
>Nintendo killed physical and we just let them get away with it
They already allowed Xbox doing it

>>713115379
>PC all digital ownership
Peak cuckery.

>>713115134 (OP)
Switch 2 is having bad sales for 3rd party games partly because of the key card thing

>>713115134 (OP)
NINTENDO
IS
GOD

>>713123551
false.

>>713123551
>Switch 2 is having bad sales for 3rd party games partly because of the key card thing
Let's hope it gets worse for them.

>>713115134 (OP)
You made your bed. Now get fucked in it.

>>713123140
it'd be nice if physical were a viable option

>>713115379
Kys.

Though, similarly said it's hilarious watching it because physical releases was like the one sole reason to ever buy a console nowadays and it's basically gone near completely now.
Genuinely why the fuck would anyone buy consoles when
>No worthwhile exclusives and at most you get less than 5 per entire gen, out of which all follow the same Nintendo or Sony formula for their respective platforms
>Have to actually install the games nowadays rather than just play from the disc
>No more physical media so you have to download it anyway, can't borrow it etc.
>Backwards compatibility is gone or only for select titles so each new generation your collection gets borderline useless since your old Hardware will eventually stop working and obviously old consoles aren't produced anymore
It's just worse, less restrictive and ironically more expensive for the specs PC.
There were some benefits from just having a console before but now it just boggles my mind ANYONE buys them.

don't care. i'll take 4k, ultra settings, and 120-240fps over a fucking plastic box any day. consolekeks are pathetic

>>713124601
>Genuinely why the fuck would anyone buy consoles when
Nintendo will always be fine in this regard; they have the games even if they need to make them themselves. Then PC is windows central and anyone with a brain sees that as a dealbreaker until Linux or other OS becomes a thing but don't hold your breath for that in the short term.

>sony makes the disc drive cost you extra plus tip and makes you download entire games when playing on disc
>crickets
>nintendo makes you download games via catridges
>AHHHHHH HELP ME MY ASSHOLE IS EXPAAAAANDIIING

>>713124778
You install them from the disc you fucking retard brainlet, because they're *ON THE DISC*

>>713125045
>AHHHHH HELP ME MY ASSHOLE HAS EXPANDED SO LARGE THAT ITS ENVELOPING MEEEEEEEE

>>713125045
That'll be $50 for your disc drive friend!
Oh, and dont forget the tip!

>>713125184
>>713125265
Switchsnoys are so fucking braindead

>>713121059
Then opt out and buy the full digital version if that bothers you. I will keep repeating those same facts regardless of what your opinion is, PC vegan.

>>713123994
Then you would have to insert and take out a cartrige to play games, which you just said was a bad thing.

>>713123551
>bad *physical sales
there is literally no reason to buy them physically. you are just getting a case, and for most people (such as myself), you just throw that shit away. why lie to yourself and imply that you are going to sell your collection? who cares about it's value when you can save mountains of space using a card holder

reminder there's a higher chance of your house burning down with all of your consoles and physical games than the chance of Steam fucking you out of your games. that'll be $80 + 30fps performance, tendoids

>>713126620
Ok PC vegan.

>>713126590
>here is literally no reason to buy them physically
I pay money therefore I want something back for it. If it's only digital, I'm paying peanuts at best or not bothering at all.

>and for most people (such as myself), you just throw that shit away
You're the cancer that took manuals away.

>>713126784
>You're the cancer that took manuals away.
you are right, sure. i dislike collectorfags and resellers. regardless, disk space really threw manuals away. they just integrate the manuals into the game itself. im not going to pretend i miss that at all. the ones people reminisc about are the absolute minority. manuals were mostly lazy, and the holders were primarily used to stuff ads and promotions in

>>713126738
if calling me that helps you sleep at night, go for it. i'll still be enjoying my games at 4k, ultra settings 120-240fps, and for free. i could enjoy YOUR games at 4k 60. i don't, because tendie shit is garbage.. but i could if i wanted to.

>>713121496
They won't, when was the last time you saw a 32GB or smaller SD card that wasn't from the last decade?

>>713127314
and if threatening arson helps you sleep then go nuts lil vegan bro

>>713127209
>disk space really threw manuals away. they just integrate the manuals into the game itself
That's cope. The case has literally one side for them and manuals can't be intergrated into the game as seen with 3DS (the only thing close to them)

>>713115134 (OP)
Just sell them all and buy them cheaply with eShop cards discounted on key sites...

>>713127402
if that's "threatening arson" to you you are even dumber than i thought, kek

>>713115134 (OP)
>wanting cartridges on a portable system
lol why would you want that again? I stopped buying physical games for handhelds with PSP.

>>713115134 (OP)
>Suikoden remaster Ns2 edition
why

>>713127421
>what are forced tutorials, tutorials, help screens, loading screens that show your controls, and et cetera
manuals used to give you the games story too, and they just tell you that in the game now. manuals have been completely replaced by the scope of having no real limitations.

>>713127432
Ok PC vegan!

>>713126620
While Gabe is heading it, sure. What happens when he goes to the great cafeteria in the sky?

>>713127648
>what are forced tutorials, tutorials, help screens, loading screens that show your controls, and et cetera
Irrelevant, that's what they are. Nowhere near close to what the manuals were, people even ignores them more than the cope argument for manuals was.

>>713115134 (OP)
well for one wokey kong isn’t even out yet so how would they know. does mario kart require an internet connection to play?

>>713127885
>What happens when he goes to the great cafeteria in the sky?
Steamies will get fucked with all the power they gave to Steam. It's going to be funny when when Valve is bought by MS yeah, that's bound to happen despite all their denial.

>>713127885
i'm not looking forward to that day but it's seeming like his son will take over, and if he's not a complete retard he will keep things going as they are since he's going to inherit a literal money printing machine
even if the worst case scenario happened, there's no way that they're going to fuck over peoples existing games.
and even if they did, i wouldn't give two shits because i would just pirate everything i own right back for free. infact that would probably be for the best because then i could just never spend another dime on a video game again, i would just pirate everything for the rest of time

>>713127973
Doubt it, but I could see Valve being bought by the Saudis and their infinite oil wealth.

>>713127973
>Steamies will get fucked with all the power they gave to Steam.

>>713128053
Once Gaben is out of the picture Valve will begin to stumble, unless Gaben ends it if he's that much of the "hero" drones make him out to be. It's not different from an ideology; it begins to wane when it's passed to hands of people.

>>713127935
okay well I just looked it up and switch 2 requires an Internet connection to validate all of your carts. defeats the purpose of physical media. fat rip

>>713128449
>consumers cucked themselves so bad they enabled everyone else to do the mistakes Xbox has been ding for decades
This is one hell of a gaslight.

>>713115379
THat's just because we can play it whenever we want. If some fag company like Microsoft took over Steam we'd be screaming too

>>713119762
>Can you install it on every computer you have at the same time?
Yes
>Can you install it on a friends computer for them to try out?
Yes

I can even make an account on another PC, add it to family sharing, and play against each other in the same house with one copy of the game and Steam doesn't give a fuck
If it were any less people would be pissed.

>>713119762
>owning nothing is liberating
I hold a different opinion.

>>713115379
PC only has digital focus because laptops or desktops with CD trays would be more expensive to produce. It's an inside job.

>>713119762
Dude I'm sharing a massive library of games with a few friends, it's awesome. We all have access to pretty much everything. There are a few games that are excluded but we can mix and match libraries, it's sick. It doesn't even lock you out entirely if you have enough copies in your "Steam Family".

>>713115134 (OP)
as a physicalfag
kill yourself
you can pirate all games in existence why the fuck do you need even more plastic boxes on your virginity shelf

>>713115134 (OP)
>we just let them get away with it
we're absolutely not as all game key card games are flopping

>>713128843
>play against each other in the same house with one copy of the game
No you can't

>>713128754
>If some fag company like Microsoft took over Steam we'd be screaming too
Calling it now. It's exactly what they want; extend their reach or go back to the PC enviroment, either way MS gets to control their monopoly on PC and gets away with paid online there for the most of the platform. Bound to happen imo

>>713128993
He's not wrong; he has no attachment. But his approach comes from being denied/reactionary over an honest place of choosing.

>Nintendo exposes the laziest third parties and they lose money
Everyone wins

>>713115134 (OP)
>steam kills physical games by selling you every good game
>nobody complains
>nintendo stops selling physical games
>"NINTENDO BAD AIEEEEEEE"

>>713129473
>noo how dare you pick the more convienient option of game key cards.... you MUST stick with the two formats of the actual game cards or else
you will buy that shit either way paypiggy, stop kvetching and pretending that you won't

>>713127973
2 more weeks ;)

>>713129097
I never understood why PC games didn't move from CDs to USBs. They were always just install files anyway, it just felt like the natural evolution that USBs would out CDs as they got vastly larger than CDs but then they tried to push the blu-ray thing which solve CD's having tiny-ass space. It always felt like CD/USB sticks were in competition for which would be the better portable storage. Then it just ended up being lmao cloud storage.

>>713115379
Its because on PC, no matter what version of windows you used it was most likely that your games kept working. With consoles all those carts and discs are tied to a system that's not supported anymore.

>>713115134 (OP)
Maybe you should have been writing Nintendo or your congressman or some shit instead of making a thousand fucking threads on this, faggot.

>>713130108
Do you think anyone has ever actually written their congressmen about this?

>>713129420
>He's not wrong
Of course, it's just xer opinion.

>>713128312
Gotta love it when tendies have to resort to making up schizo headcannons for anything but their despot chink company and its toy tablets

Nintendo is the only console manufacturer that does not have a digital only version of their console, mind you.

>>713125184
>>713124778
MY ASS HAS FINALLY DECIDED TO EAT. MY HAND!

>>713125045
Yeah same way it was for the PS4 going back to 2013, plus you get to keep the game instead of having to keep the disc. Why are people complaining, it’s literally a superior version of what every other console already had.

>CRACK
IT HUNGERS...... for more.
>SLURRRRRRRRRRRRRRP

>>713129571
What are you even mad about lmao

>>713130006
>no matter what version of windows you used it was most likely that your games kept working

Tourist PCmutts are the most ignorant fucking retards, holy shit.

>>713115134 (OP)
Well we already have seen that people are speaking with their wallets, all the best selling physical releases thus far, have been the non gay-key releases. Give it time and maybe it will be a Famicom disk system situation where Nintendo gains some sense and comes up with a better solution and offer multiple size carts for publishers. I know for me, it killed all the hype I had for getting a Switch 2 anytime soon, but its still too soon to tell if this is just testing the waters or permanent. I personally think a solution will come about and we will see a sharp decline in the keys by this time next year and many of these games re-released as complete versions (especially any that Limited Run type companies get the rights to)

>>713129361
Yes I can.
What makes you say I can't?

>>713131167
They're all thirdies who didn't get internet until the 2010s. They never experienced losing their entire pre 2000s PC library when their parents upgraded the family computer.

>>713129480
>Nintendo fucks you by forcing you to download shit to its tiny SSD
Yes Nintendo Bad, get over it tendie

>>713115134 (OP)
Retard forgot the new Rune Factory. Switch 2 cart has the game full on cart. Together with the switch 1 version in the same cart.

>>713131167
>>713131620
He's right, deal with it tech illiterate jeet.
>They never experienced losing their entire pre 2000s PC library when their parents upgraded the family computer.
Because it didn't fucking happen and I was just now playing a game that I burned from a disc I got in 1998.
But that's some cool copefiction you made of some shadowy force breaking into my house and destroying my CDs.

>>713131801
>a workaround eventually happened years later that let me play my games
I know. I wasn't talking about today.

The only one I'm bummed about and wanted to own physically was Hogwart's.

Hopefully that gets a re-release when Nintendo pulls their heads out of their asses. But otherwise I'm very selective about what I buy on the Switch and most 3rd party games are just things I enjoy more on my PC.

>>713115134 (OP)
>Nintendo killed physical!
>all third party games
It's because of shit like this that people don't take you seriously when you cry about nintendo.

713131597
Fuck off retard.
No (you)s for your weak bait.

>>713129790
Didn't say in the short term, retardo

>>713115134 (OP)
>make overpriced toys that are glorified keys to unlock disk locked content
>make "physical" games that are just keys to digitally download the game
>lock music phone app that has a small selection of music from old games behind the nintendo switch online subscription
Nintendo® can do no wrong

>>713115134 (OP)
PC gamers are the ones who really killed physical. Nintendo is just hitting the last nail on the coffin.

>>713130307
>steam loyalists now cope with Nintendo being rent free in their heads
I thought it were only sonygros.

>>713116539
Oh yeah? Like what? Ultima?

Get the fuck out of here. Dragon Quest mogged that shit on the Famicom. It Ultima or Wing Commander were so great, people would remember them today.

>>713132562
It's not over. Returns are still dimishing, eventually tech will catch up again and it will be practical and cost efficient to put full games on carts. Might even happen within this gen and devs will just launch a delayed physical version.

>>713115134 (OP)
I can't take anything negative I hear about the Switch 2 seriously because there's so many people just blatantly lying.

>>713130230
It was a joke, dickhead.

>>713132808
>eventually tech will catch up again and it will be practical and cost efficient to put full games on carts
It never was expensive; the meme in the 90s was an excuse and we're not living in the 90s anymore. Publishers are simply cheapstake scum.

>>713115134 (OP)
I don’t see the distinction. Everything is digital, it’s just being stored on a different medium.

It's funny how Nintendo gets the brunt of the blame for merely giving the option to use key cards, something they're not using for their own first party titles.

>>713132808
I'm a physicalfag and even I'm not this delusional. Third parties have been praising the key cards. Microsoft has gone digital only, leaving the PS5 as the only console you can get a physical copy of the GEARS OF WAR remaster on. Steam is too powerful and the gamers outside of the west and japan don't give a flying fuck about physical collecting and frankly never have. Its unironically over bro.

>>713133163
It's normal. The west has been like this since Nintendo started succeeding in the industry.

>>713133245
It's ok to believe that. I hold a different opinion.

>>713133245
>Microsoft has gone digital only
Be honest; there was never nothing of worth owning with them so it's not a loss.

>>713133163
For now; this is the problem retard consoomers never understand, things escalate. If the key card crap sees positive adoption even Nintendo will do it. t. don't give a shit about keycards so won't be buying any of them

>>713132010
>>a workaround eventually happened years later
But it didn't happen years later.
I've been playing this game ever since it was native on Windows 98.
IDIOT.
You tech-illiterate MORON

Hahahahah.

>>713132010
what the fuck are you on? wrappers are a 25 year old solution to running 30 year old games.
ofc I don't expect turdies to know that, who shit where they eat, and eat where they shit.

I still don't know what game keys are lmao

>>713115134 (OP)
At least they don't sell the ability to use physical media as an additional device with necessary online verification to use it.
But I don't see you making a threads about the PS5 and it's countless failures

>>713134432
same, it sounds similar to the gay thing xbox does with its server handshake that helped to kill their software selling capacity prior to gp.

>>713134408
>>713134302
You mad?

>>713115134 (OP)
That's one fucking sad list. Usually they have at least 1 flagship exclusive that makes you want to buy the console when it comes out.
All they have is new Donkey Kong, new Mario kart, and a bunch of re-re-releases. Couldn't they even scrap together a mainline Mario?
Do retards really rush out to buy this just to play the exact same games over and over again every gen with marginally improved performance?

Kek
What a faggot

>>713115134 (OP)
I'm a hardcore nintendofag and I'm literally not buying a Switch 2 because of this bullshit.

>>713135000
>Usually they have at least 1 flagship exclusive that makes you want to buy the console when it comes out
Mario kart is there, bro...

Rune Factory. Story of Seasons. Probably others too but yeah, game keycards and digital sucks. Physical switch games for life

>all of the 1st party nintendo games are fully on the cartridge
>the only ones that require a download are 3rd party
>"this is nintendo's fault"

>>713115379
>its ok when we do it

>>713135042
I'm not reading all that.

>>713117352
>limited run games

Wasn't it true their carts, won't run on switch II?

>>713131597
Because you can't. No modern game works this way.

>>713115379
Steamcvcks are retards.

Bump

>>713115379
Plastic hoarders destroyed by this post.

>>713131620
you were saying? faggot

>>713115134 (OP)
Why people are loosing their marbles when Nintendo did it, when Sony and Microsoft have been doing it since the ps4 era? Heck microsoft has been doing it since the 360.
Games don't weight 15 gb anymore we have games that literally 100 gb of space, and millions of polygons ans assets, even when developers try to compile and reduce space (Nintendo was practically the only one who was perfect doing it, everyone else sacked major balls on it) makes me remember about resident evil 64 version.
In ps5, all the games are just keys, because games now are so big you need to install them on your console.

>>713144246
>Why people are loosing their marbles when Nintendo did it
Daddy issues