How many years until western turn based RPG reach the same level of quality as turn based JRPGs?

>>713117420 (OP)
8 years tops. BG3 and E33 paved the door to turn-based RPGs becoming mainstream for western normies.

>>713117420 (OP)
Probably never

I liked both games, but E33 was better to me. Metaphor is just gimped Persona.

persona 5 spawned so many of these and it's dire

>>713118048
truth

>>713117420 (OP)
lel

>>713118385
>Baldur's Gate
>same genre

>>713118436
>turn based RPG isnt Turn based
hurr durr

>>713117420 (OP)
metaphor is insanely overrated

Mental illness

>>713117420 (OP)
>How many years until western turn based RPG reach the same level of quality as turn based JRPGs?
I happened more than 28 years ago, weeb

>>713118779
hownu.ru

>>713118779
this image is old as fuck newfag

>>713118643
it really is. it's an average 7/10 at best.

>>713117420 (OP)
Never, because all the popular "JRPGs" barely count as "role-playing" and are simply glorified visual novels and dating/social simulators.
All the "true" JRPGs are niche, because Japanese people and weebs don't actually want to play role-playing games,

>>713117420 (OP)
>>713118385
Why are modern turn-based games so soulless

>>713118643
This but Excremation 33

saying you're a persona fan is the biggest self report possible. liking JRPGs is fine but persona is the sloppiest of slop

>saying you're a persona fan is the biggest self report possible. liking JRPGs is fine but persona is the sloppiest of slop

>>713119151
>metacritic

>>713119151
>immediately turns it into some consolewar bullshit
curse vishnu the shit eater right now or begone from here

>>713117664
based

metaphor was okay
expedition 33 was great

>>713119083
>>713119151
People only play Persona for the dating sim elements.

As an RPG, it’s mediocre at best.

Why do tribalists spergs hate Atlus games so much?

>>713117420 (OP)
>until western turn based RPG
What singular RPG are you referring to, Pajeet?
>>713120283
I don't, I like SMT. Persona is trash, thougheverbeit.

>>713120283
atlus games are pretty cool when they're not made for teenagers and mentally ill girls. the only people being tribalistic are fags like >>713119151

>>713117420 (OP)
I think enough time has passed for us to admit Metaphor may have been a tad bit overrated.
I like how you chose Open Critic instead of Meta, because the user score is so drastically in E33's favor.

SMT chad here.
persona sucks as does persona-lite aka metabore.

>>713120283
>Fatlusfags
>not tribalism

also it's always rebirth that is brought up like >>713119151 so it's most likely always the same sperg who has a hateborner for it

>>713117420 (OP)
I'm an unironic atlus fanboy (as in I'm probably even going to play that P5 gacha slop) but Expedition 33 mogs them hard except for the gameplay. The music, writing, and narrative are leagues better.

i don't know what it is about metaphor but it's so visually unappealing