>dump all my points into ice magic
>literally can't do shit against the Holiday Queen because she's ice-immune
>used all my fire potions on the Garden fight
Should I just restart? I think I've taken kind of a weird route anyway.

Kinda weird that they decided to make the player character's mom a whore halfway in

how do you get the secret ending anyway, I heard there's some sort of maze that you need to solve without your group members?

>>713120805 (OP)
Keep going, you need to beat that route to see the true ending.

>>713120805 (OP)
>Grind my ice mage as soon as she joins the party
>Obtain her OP ice ring from the shady salesman
>Avoid killing the bird warrior, add the dragon and prince back to my party
This should get me the kris weapon from the smith without locking myself into the bad ending, right?

>>713121775
years of telling myself to watch twin peaks and what finally convinces me is the slim possibility that it's connected to an indie game...

>>713122278
If you still have the thorn ring going forward yes. I dunno if you get to keep it unless you stay on weird route until chapter 4 at noelle's house.

Realistically speaking, Toby can't expect to punish people and restricting their options for "doing too much", right?
The same way the Weird Route always has exit points: doing certain things and obtaining all the shit you can obtain can only lead to good things happening, right?
Or well... more freedom happening, at the bare minimum.
I'm asking this because I have a "completed" save for the normal route and I killed 2 fetuses and I'm wondering if that's gonna bite me in the ass.

>>713122295
watched it myself a month ago and then discovered that the said indie game might have some references
liked it amply especially the characters

>>713122840
Gerson tells you to explore and go between the lines.

The root of all his selfish desires

>>713122840
i doubt you're going to get punished too hard for killing the titanspawn considering how hard the game pushes the "YOU HAVE TO KILL THESE FUCKERS" angle. maybe it'll have some minor repercussions, but it's not gonna be like genocide. worst case, you can always save edit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHR_z-hldgY

>>713122840
If the game forcing you to fight the Titan didn't make it clear, the game is not going to punish you for fighting when it's going to give you no choice in some battles. Especially when the first four chapters together are already twice as long as Undertale, Toby can't rely on people replaying the entire game from scratch just because they decided to fight a few times. The only major difference is going to be the weird route.
So far every chapter has ended with the kill count being reset, and the player level increasing to what it would be if you fought everything, even if you've been a complete pacifist, so the only thing that you're losing is town recruits.

Looks like we had to change the channel again, folks!

>>713123902
Gayest fakeout imaginable, i knew he didin't have the balls for zombie Gerson

>>713124214
>implying that it wasn't
>implying ralsei didn't say it was just a "statue" to calm her down

>>713124295
PLAY THE GAME NIGGA HE LITERALLY SHOWS UP LATER

>>713124330
yeah but there's no way that thing was just a normal statue turned into a darkner, not only was it creepy as fuck it was immune to attacks from anyone other than ralsei

>>713124330
nigger, i DID play the game
i just think it's a stupid schizotheory that i believe in

>>713124295
It's a statue, you see it from the shards and the fact that his office is missing a statue

>>713120805 (OP)

In case you guys get tired of having to go [[Dumpster Diving]] for threads, you can always come to /vrpg/. It's a nice alternative for anyone who doesn't want to deal with the cesspit that's /utg/.

>>713124410
didn't you read the dialogue? susie didn't attack or let kris attack because she was afraid she could hurt gerson

>>713120805 (OP)
Do you think Giant human movies are really heavy handed with the Political Undertones?
cause I feel like they would be exceptionally racist movies

>>713124410
>it was immune to attacks
we literally can't know that, kris' attacks miss because it's too dark (same thing happens if you try to attack jackenstein) and susie refuses to fight
ralsei was only able to attack since he got right up behind it

>>713124480
someone suggested that and immedietely got called a janny, so it isn't gonna happen

>>713123924
>Toby can't rely on people replaying the entire game from scratch just because they decided to fight a few times
I'm mad at how fun fighting is and how recuits being LOST prevents them from respawning
ironically enough, despite their incredible variety, ACTs don't give me the same dopamine hit as pressing the attack button at the perfect time and seeing a bigger number on screen
I want more knight fights

>>713124410
Because Kris and Susie hit it with bladed weapons like two retards while Ralsei bludgeons it with a club

>>713124410
He's right about it being a statue that turned into a darkner though. Gerson's right statue is missing when you backtrack after the fight.
Also it's immune to attacks because you miss during the fight, Ralsei just catches it off guard from behind.

>>713124516
> You tell Susie that this is King Kong.

>>713124295
>>713124410
The statue on the right side of the study is missing if you go back in the third sanctuary.

>>713124613
>Deltarune's version of King Kong is about a giant human who falls in love with a monkey girl

The boss fight against FRIEND has been leaked.

>>713120805 (OP)
You gotta re-spec the prince so he can learn fireshock.
PLEASE let us talk about a video game, holy fuck.

>>713124561
Oh no, keep fighting the good fight on here. I'm just saying that if you want a place where you can actually discuss Deltarune content without the mods seething, then it's perfect for that purpose.

>>713124667
Oof, hope the dog didn't hurt itself.

>>713121775
Nice try but Mike ended up being a nothingburger joke character.

>>713124981
The hyperrealistic mic is the most serious shit I've ever seen in this game.

>oh, the general can't be that b-
I didn't think it was possible to talk about the game any less.

>>713125107
Actual schizos on there. Not just avatarkeks, but genuine schizophrenics.

>>713124981
>he doesn't know
Once you get past the initial schizo theory jokes, the entire room is Cat Petterz stuff. FRIEND is and always has been Mike.

>>713125107
Literally all generals are like that, you don't go to /vg/ to talk about videogames

>>713125107
Susellefags, this is your mindset.

>>713125256
When i went on there months after chapter 2 like every thread had 3 people with Spamton Tulpas talking about their life with Spamton Tulpas

>>713125372
>Spamton Tulpa
holy kek
why would you willingly do that to yourself

>>713125107
The reason /vg/ as a board fails is because all the generals without fail turn into personal neurodivergent social clubs for a bunch maladjusted loners, the actual game and discussion of it takes a backseat so autistic avatarfags can pretend to have actual friends for a while

>>713125274
with the exception of literally one
won't tell you which game doiegh

>>713125107
Hey man what's wrong with wanting to kill yourself. I want to kill myself too.

:^)

>>713125372
>>713125410
>be a /utg/ member
>try to go to sleep
>mfw the Spamton hallucination I gave myself is sperging out again

>>713125107
What a Noelle post

We didn't fuck up by getting the Shadow Mantle, did we?

I just finished them, was busy with life, and I can't believe how many secret stuff is in the game, but here's my take.
At fist, I was stressed by missing stuff and whatever since undertale kind of tracked everything, deltarune does as well but the design philosophy seems linear, where the extra things doesn't massively affect the experience (aside for choosing snowgrave so far).

My intention will be sparing everything, since it's fun, and getting all the dark crystals which seems like that will be all that's necessary for the "best" ending, doesn't seem like missing characters or not sparing some of them would greatly affect the path in the grand scheme of things (It would be an exponential pain in the ass to develop and write)

>>713125708
Don't worry about it, this is no Undertale and Toby isn't that evil

>>713125634
>my kris tulpa controlled by my human soul tulpa pulls something off of a flower in the park
FUCK

>>713125708
As much as other people would tell you otherwise, probably not.

>>713125416
Funny, the reason /v/ as a videogame board fails is because they turn into random shitflinging and ignorant political circlejerking.

>>713125372
Of all characters to make a tulpa of, why the fuck would you go with Spamton?

>>713125708
the sexy laughing mantle was just gaslighting you

you know how there's sans by catti's house near the grill but he's also at the store entrance in ch4
what if there's actually 2 sanses and we just assume it's the same one because we saw this as a joke in undertale

>>713125725
>doesn't seem like missing characters or not sparing some of them would greatly affect the path in the grand scheme of things
I mean, there's already shit like Tenna and Jack surviving if you recruit everyone in their respective dark world.

>>713125725
Yeah, I doubt there's gonna be a ton of convoluted steps to get the "TRVE ENDING" or whatever. Even in Undertale, it was just replaying the game.

>>713125548
Get help doofus

>>713125920
>Sans' brother is just Sans' twin
that would be fucked up.

Can you beat the mantle boss but then just leave without taking it?

>>713125708
If you attack the enemies in the gameshow portion of chapter 3 they are LOST so it's not like the things you do in a video game don't matter

>>713126052
Those are explicitly people in the back stage controlling those characters

>>713125965
I'm honestly talking out of my ass since I didn't know they could be lost.
I really liked tenna so I was glad he was alive but I gave him away anyways so I guess what I mean is the main path doesn't seem too affected? It seems that branched out for a while and then ended as opposed to it ending sooner.

>>713125920
>nice to see you again dialogue is there because kris saw sans's brother the day before

>>713125372
>please spamton it's 3am i really need to sleep i have a big test tomorrow
>HEY HEY !!!! WHO NEEDS [The Cousin of Death] WHEN YOU'VE GOT YOUR [I'm Old] PAL SPAMTON G SPAMTON BY YOUR [Front]??? TIME TO [Get Up And Dance] OUT OF BED AND [Transmit] ME SOME KROMER FOR [Girth Pills] AT [Prices So Low I'm Killing Myself!]

>>713126052
well to be fair that puts you into an actual legitimate battle. It's not like killing the Tenna in the mantle game kills the actual Tenna yknow?

>>713125971
Honestly it was a bit of a pain replaying the whole thing so I'm just so thankful these are separated in chapters and many skip options.

I think toby understands that maybe suffering to get an ending isn't that much fun in the long run.