isaac if he good

Gungeon if she not abysmal dogshit

>>713121790 (OP)
never got the glazing of this game. Its like hour and a half long, 10% of content of isaac or gungeon. This is forgettable af.

perfect example of how making a game more skill based doesn't make it better if the content sucks

>>713121913
is there just a nuclear throne dev on /v/ who constantly chimps out at it not being nearly as popular as isaac or gungeon?

>>713122650
this. you can talk about bad patches in boi and etg all day, but at least they have actual content.

>>713123231
>Conveniently crops out Achievements

rip Vlambeer

>>713123471
>AKSHUALLY you dont get it. you have to play the same 2 hours of content over and over and unlock all achievements to like the game

>>713123814
so is isaac

>>713123814
just post your achievements then

>>713123065
Can't speak for Isaac since I like Isaac.
But Gungeon is shit
t. Played it on a free weekend and was thoroughly unimpressed.

>>713123814
brother you need to beat the heart in tboi 10 time to advance deeper. the game simply have a fun and short game-loop. yes it lacks content but that doesn't mean it's bad.

>>713121790 (OP)
Idk, i don't think it's comparable to issac.
I think isaac is more of a 'random bullshit' game where you can easily break it or salvage a run. Items are a huge element of the core gameplay. It's also slower paced since the challenges are bite sized rooms
NT is more about raw skill and learning how to take risks, with open fields and waves of bullets and overall faster pace.
Gungeon is closer to isaac than NT in any case and it sucks compared to both

>>713121790 (OP)
Comparing isaac and gungeon is stupid. It's two different games with different ideas. There are almost no "builds" in gungeon, even worse flooding the pool with bad guns (95% of them) is a bad idea. Isaac, on the other hand - is all about meta-information synergy building.

>>713121790 (OP)

Could be good if the whole game wasn't 30min long

>>713121790 (OP)
nah throne is shit, putrid smelly shit.

>>713123065
nigga devs disbanded long ago, one of them even had some islamic podcast or some shit

I feel like Gungeon left a bad taste in everyones mouth with its early releases and no one went back after its final dlc when it finally rounded out and is pretty damn good. Sadly because of the overload in guns and items you could easily start a run with absolute garbage and no way to hit the optional floors

>>713124409
i don't know dude i have like a billion hours in gungeon and still haven't unlocked everything. i play in turbo mode to relax. pretty good game.

feels a lot more skill based as opposed to build based unlike most other rogue likes.

How the fuck are you supposed to beat the first loop of hard mode?
>So many enemies and enemy spawners that you have to make ammo conservation priority number one in the first three levels
>Hit the sewers
>Mom shows up and unless you hit the jackpot with getting random drops of ammo-efficient guns and ammo generating perks, AND if she doesn't decide to get into a giant room and spawn thirty frogs and make them tanky as shit and spew slow-traveling projectiles out of your view you can pass to the next level
I've only ever gotten past the sewers three times in a couple hundred hours.

Gungeon is such a damn slog. Who thought HP scaling was a fun mechanic?

>>713127862
Hard mode is the de facto SFMT mode of Nuclear Throne in all ways except for name.
You aren't supposed to win, it's supposed to just kick your ass and you see how far you can get past the start.

>>713121790 (OP)
I don't see it even like issac.

>>713122650
I enjoyed it, for what it is as a light fun arcade game. Doesn't have the insane interactions of Issac. Doesn't have the boring early game of Gungeon, and has a wider variety of interactions.

>>713123814
>AKSHUALLY you dont get it. you have to play the same 2 hours of content over and over
Yes. Welcome to roguelikes you retarded faggot

Hmm, maybe I should boot this up again. Steam says I haven't played this since 2016, I think I gave up because I kept dying after looping. But since then I've played a lot of arcade shmups and Hotline Miami-style action indie games, so I think I would do better this time around. It would be fun to try to 100% it and get all achievements.
Did the game get any significant updates since then?

>>713128213
>Who thought HP scaling was a fun mechanic?
>Who thought having to reload was a fun mechanic?
>Who thought giving most weapons shit accuracy was a fun mechanic?
>Who thought filling the arsenal with a bunch of shitty meme weapons was a fun mechanic?
Gungeon is fucking awful and doesn't deserve to be mentioned in the same conversation as Nuclear Throne and Isaac. Fuck that slop

>>713128904
Wiki says latest update was in november 2017
https://nuclear-throne.fandom.com/wiki/Update_History

Got this as part of the $5 nigger fundraiser, played it for about 10 minutes then uninstalled. Is it supposed to boring? Because it was.

>>713129715
sounds like a skill issue.

>>713121790 (OP)
free aiming ruins the combat and level/enemy design in NT and Gungeon. I think the four directional aiming is the secret sauce that gives Isaac its unique feel cause it influences how every other part of the game had to be made.
Also, I'm surprised there still hasn't been a roguelike with the item synergy Isaac has. It's been like two decades, but nope, everything just has shit uninteresting item pools.

>>713129715
>the tutorial wasn't enough for a gamer such as myself
you aren't allowed to speak on NT until you've defeated the throne itself.

This game felt like the spiritual successor. Most of the guns are viable. Only thing is I think the difficulty curve could be a bit more smoothed out.

>>713127182
>Islamic podcast

ISLAMIC WHAT?

WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK

>>713132380
It's Rami, are you surprised in the slightest?

really need nuclear throne 2 cause odinfall gets it all wrong.

>>713127273
I've beaten delirium with no items.
Don't talk to me about "skill based"

Lil Hunter is unfair

>>713134540
skill issue faggot

>>713123814
why did you buy a roguelike and then complain that you had to play a roguelike

>>713134540
NYEHEHEHEHAH
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pee_lsuVt3M

>>713134540
>spawns behind you
>rubber bullets your entire starting hallway
>suicides into your tiny foxhole
nothin' personell kid

>>713132380
>>713127182
>dev duo splits up
>one goes on to do programming/design work for other game projects
>other goes on to become a "diversity advocate" and runs a podcast
starting to think Vlambeer was like a high school group project where one guy is actually doing 85% of the work but they both get the same amount of credit

>>713134661
>he doesn't get the reference

>>713121790 (OP)
Nuclear Throne is nothing like Isaac, Isaac is an autism sim where you hold R and try to break the game. NT is more skill expressive, RNG plays a much smaller part and has a great arcade feel, you can boot it up and loop within 15 minutes or less if you want. Love both of them.
Gungeon is alright, I didn't really play the updates that much but I remember it feeling sluggish and a lot of items and guns felt like dogshit.

IT'S THE

>>713131236
Never cared for Nuclear Throne, but I fucking loved Voidigo! The game is super charming and gameplay felt great.
I'm surprised someone on /v/ even knows about it, such an underrated gem! Shame it didn't sell too well. I would love to have some more variety in levels and enemies. But there's no way devs will continue updating the game. Especially considering how successul R.E.P.O. turned out. They are probably pouring all their time and resources into that now.

>>713139185
i played it quite a bit as well, i will say doing upgrade stars is terrible, i cannot imagine actually 100% the game, awful. also hard mode is fucking HARD, the difficulty spike is crazy between normal and hard

>>713123231
You havent beaten NT

>>713139429
i haven't even beaten it, those last four achievements are stupid, fuck super mutant, fuck hard mode, fuck skeleton

I may have autism but NT is definitely one of my deserted island picks. There's few games that match the sheer franticness of a high-loop run. Voidigo on impossible difficulty provides a similar experience.

>>713139573
You are not 10.7 hour shitter

>>713139608
Its a great game, but I think for the sake of variety Im taking Isaac over it. Still an emaculate game and despite being abandonware a better roguelike(lite) than all of its contemporaries

>>713121790 (OP)
fish if he roll

Sell me on voidigo, it looks like more chaotic nuclear throne with better passive bonus shit

Is there any reason to not play as the gem?
Instant blocking seems so much better than the other abilities in a game like this.

>>713139185
>I'm surprised someone on /v/ even knows about it, such an underrated gem! Shame it didn't sell too well.
anon the game has overwhelmingly positive reviews, that blows most indie games out of the water more than tenfold
it wouldn't even qualify for hidden gem threads since it exceeds even the most lax anon's requirement of <1000 reviews by more than triple.
It's a good game but let's not get our perspectives out of whack.
Meanwhile Gungeon having been mentioned in the thread even blows Nuclear Throne out of the water on review total by a similar level of scale, but that goes to show just how much of a power boon having a publisher doing your advertising makes for a game.

>>713140024
here's my pick for "roguelite i never see anyone talk about", i fucking love this this game but god dammit once you go past light level like, 7, the game becomes nearly impossible to beat single player, and hard as shit with two players. i keep thinking i must be doing something wrong but i can't fucking deflect two critical shots on two ends of my ship at once

>>713140223
>roguelite i never see anyone talk about
>blocked in my country
Yeah, no wonder.

>>713140223
How do you even find out about games like these?

>>713140540
NTA but I find a lot of weird games by just trawling through hidden gem threads, nest fest threads, and game jams for anything that may interest me.
/v/ may not be good in the majority of threads but in the ones where videogames are actually discussed, there are a surprising amount of people who still do have a passion for the hobby and are willing to take risks on games that aren't in the mainstream or current zeitgeist

>>713137838
>hold R and try to break the game
bro, your win streaks?

>>713140729
/v/, despite everything, likes video games

>>713140223
shame you never see anyone talk about these two, especially picayune

I love both for different reasons.
Gungeon is the only one that's genuinely shit though.

>>713139918
you get your ass blasted in later levels because blocking is mostly defensive and hardly helps to clear enemies, and you die to melee anyways, especially in labs where dogs will instakill you and the map gets covered in plasma anyways if you don't kill the cells quick enough

>>713137838
i'm only posting this because you have the big cock image there, kneel before my bigger cock

>>713141095
Actually I think it's lasers that kill you through crystal, not melee. I don't know, I haven't played in a while

>>713141210
nah you're right, both melee and lasers punch through shield

nuclear throne is definitely better than issac and gungeon
of course Dead Cells and RoR2 are streets ahead of those games

>>713141359
ror2 was fun until it became not fun, it's a weird thing. the start of a run sucks but then gets fun as hell but then goes back to being boring as you get too strong

>>713121790 (OP)
Gungeon is too slow, Isaac isn't arcadey enough and is full of autism. Throne is perfect, but small. What's the next best thing compared to NT?

>>713127862
No idea honestly. Best I've ever managed is Steroids with a Golden Splinter Gun and the free mutation crown, but Sewers always fucks me.

nothing beats Tales of Maj'eyal desu

>>713121913
i will truly never understand the absolute seethe from nt fags over a completely unrelated game that didn't affect their game at all. it's been nearly a decade already. get over it.

>>713123231
>>713122650
>Its like hour and a half long
>but at least they have actual content.
Nuclear throne is not your average game meant for joe schmo to suck down another burger to, whilst listening to asmongold as hes experiencing the "khantent dood". Its hard to find a better shitter filterer. I would know, it almost filtered me.

>>713128904
>It would be fun to try to 100% it and get all achievements.
Its an experience ill say that much. But i cant recommend getting back into throne enough.

>>713129715
lmao, eat shit pleb. Go back to assasins creed.

>>713130953
>free aiming ruins the combat and level/enemy design in NT
wtf are you talking about? "Ruins" how!? Yeah sure NT would be great if the game was built with that in mind.

>>713139918
Crystal has the easiest time on the first loop but falls off hard later on because you want to be hyper aggressive on Loop 2+
The real game breaker is Steroids because he does 2x as much damage as any other character. In order of best to worst for high looping I'd say:

>Steroids
>Robot
>YV
>Horror
>Plant
>Rogue
>Melting
>Crystal
>Chicken
>Eyes
>Fish
>Rebel

Of course you can do well with anyone if you git gud.

>>713121790 (OP)
This game's resolution is so tiny and it has so many effects it gives me an aneurism when I play it

Love this game so much.

>>713141482
>What's the next best thing compared to NT?
ULTRAKILL.

>>713142112
I think theres a command that fixes that.
Yeah if you use Nuclear Throne Together you can follow this
https://steamsolo.com/guide/how-to-play-in-widescreen-ultra-widescreen-and-60-fps-and-beyond-nuclear-throne/

>>713142232
>Unironic Tranny Game

>>713121790 (OP)
>Rami makes one of the best indie games ever
>Immediately quits being a game dev and does nothing but rant on twitter
wtf happened?

>>713131236
Voidigo makes me cum. Amazing gameplay. Turning the Dungeon Dodge Roll into a Jump then there is synergy for combo bouncing on enemies is so inspired.
There was little content I already did everything within 30 hours though (except grinding for Weapon mastery that shit is retarded).
Shame their next game overshadowed it completely.

>>713141482
devil daggers

>>713142295
TDS

>>713139608
I agree with this. NT is a perfect videogame; it does exactly what it wants to do extremely well and doesn't fuck around with anything else.

Is there a way to play as Big Dog without modding?

No game ever gave me the rush of Brrap + B2B a Super plasma cannon, and just watch the game fuckin implode.
God bless

>>713142279
>filtered by shooting coins

>>713121790 (OP)
Rate.

>>713142457
YOU WILL NEVER BE A WOMAN

>>713142535
actually genuinely filtered
say it again

>>713142627
Kill yourself tranny faggot

>>713134540
Ultra mutant is something you'll unlock as you spend more and more hours playing the game, the other two are complete fucking ass though I'll give you that.

>>713142465
>hyper rifle above double minigun and super slugger
>assault slugger above quad machinegun
>basic laser rifle in A tier
>hyper launcher not in S tier
>golden laser pistol above golden assault rifle

Otherwise bretty good

>>713142279
Nah Ultrakill is good. It singlehandedly kills boomershooters(you should just be playing doomwads if you want boomershooters, you fucking idiot)

>>713140763
rookie numbers

>>713142232

>>713140938
Never hear of the first one. Looks too hectic, not sure if it's up my alley.
Dead Estate was alright, but didn't click with me. I beat it once or maybe twice and immidiately lost the interest. Weapons felt samey and I just couldn't get a feel of game's camera: combining isometric view, jumping, cloustrophobic-sized rooms and various heights of projectives felt too weird for me; had a hard time dodging shit.

>>713142707
What the fuck are you talking about? Ultroonkill is absolute shit. Trannies can't make games.

>>713140763
I don't care for streaks, maybe when I get dead god and have nothing else to do

>>713141104
Based... my knees are bending on their own...

I highly recommend browsing negative reviews for NT on steam. Funniest shit ive seen.

>>713142759
the obsession is terminal it seems, it's too late for this anon

>>713142759
I dont think the guy who makes ultrakill is a tranny, I think at worst the guy who voices gabriel is a pro trans guy

>>713142813
>pls buy my shitty tranny game :<
Kill yourself you retarded freak

>>713142783
>these are the people saying Gungeon is good
Kill me now

>>713142759
Look at this fucking idiot

>>713142813
you really thought the guy shrieking like this cares about the details?

>>713142319
*Gungeon Dodge Roll
Gungeon is kinda wank btw. I really like its artstyle but actually going through a whole run is ehhhh. Floors are really long that's why they added that skip thing but then why even have them be that long?
Voidigo has the best moment to moment gameplay of an action Roguelike with alright synergy. I like how many sacrifices you can make (with corrupt givers). The item level system is really good.
Nuclear throne feels very archaic by comparison but I've only done like 30 runs. (fake fan sorry)
ROR is very fun slop. You don't "plan" around things you just are sometimes given a good build (I wish Returns added the ROR2 printers. Artifact Of Command sucks shit.)
Isaac just has so much shit and I think the largest mod community. Like some mods just straight up implement mechanics from the above games. You could play that game forever.

Uhh that's my thoughts from the Action Roguelike subgenre.

>>713142838
>>713142838
>>713142932
Fuck off Tranny retard

Go back to your kid grooming discord

>>713142759
It's one of the most fun shooters ever made once you git even somewhat gud. I was goint "why the fuck do people even like this game" for the first 8 hours I played it, but once it clicked I realized it's fucking amazing. Getting into a groove in cyber grind is digitalized cocaine
Can't be fucked to P rank the levels though, that shit gets cancerous

>>713142759
what a fucking retard lmao

>>713142945
Gungeon strikes me as a half developed game where the team finished their 100th unique gun, and then they realized the game needed passives and synergies, and they gave up after like, 4 of them, and decided to focus on gay endgame/postgame shit

>>713142991
keep seething harder

>>713142991
I dont use twitter, sorry.

>>713142995
>>713142996
>>713143067
Keep samefagging all you want, you're literally defending tranny pedophiles

>>713143083
Trannies always defend their own.

>>713143083
>posts literally one second apart
>"hurr samefag"

>>713142991
oh man he's got twitter screencaps watch out

>>713142759
go get mad about good games somewhere else

>>713143123
>>713143125
>>713143146

Go back Tranny PEDO

well, it was a good thread while it lasted

>>713143017
This was legit gungeon when it launched, after that they had a update with just a truck load of synergies and passives and it became a finished game.

>>713142995
P ranking isn't that bad until you get to the longer levels, specially those that have the hardest room at the very end. I mean you still need to do it to get to the best level P-1. I'm pretty sure encore levels also need to P rank shit and those are fucking amazing too.

Thanks for keeping the thread bumped schizo
I've been waiting for Ultrakill to launch 1.0 before playing it

>>713142664
keep saying it

>>713142697
>>hyper rifle above double minigun and super slugger
Idk, i feel like its just alot more bang for your buck compared to the double mini. And slugger weps just kinda fall off hard in the loops.

>>assault slugger above quad machinegun
Yeah, there is an argument here. But quad is like an even worse double mini, but i suppose in optimal conditions/perks that it does scale better then assault slugger.

>>basic laser rifle in A tier
Yes.

>>hyper launcher not in S tier
Hyper is super cool and one of my fav weps in the game. So much fun, but it really by no means is an S tier item, in no world. The ones in S tier is very specific.

>>golden laser pistol above golden assault rifle
Yeah, this one could go either way. But i have faith in my NT knowledge. I know this game pretty well.

>>713142895
Yeah, it was fun going down the rabbit hole. But its grim at the same time..

>>713142465
I hate ultra weapons because managing an extra resource when I'm already looping makes it too stressful and I hate blood weapons because I always end up killing myself. Also jackhammer is S tier, flame cannon is F, super bazooka is A.

>>713143017
Yeah I don't like how over half the pickups are more guns. I like passives that change how I play in general.
They added inert "synergies" if you have multiple items (e.g. 2 guns) that grants a passive, but it's not like you're going to know about that beforehand. I like games where I have to make decisions on my build.
Also the fact there's 2 chests per floor, you need a key for chests, key drops are rare as shit, and some chests DO NOT CONTAIN ITEMS.
And then if you want a Health Up from a Boss (Health Ups are incredibly rare) you have to do it hitless (and they're really tanky). I mean Isaac makes you lose deal chance if you take Red Heart damage in a Boss but its a deal room, not a direct upgrade.

>>713123065
I've never seen NT mentioned. I definitely liked it more than gungeon, but less than isaac

>>713135534
that's exactly what it was
I met Rami back in 2014 at a game dev convention
huge piece of shit

>>713137838
>>713141104
I love seeing that anons here actually play /v/ideo games

>>713143769
I heard that Jan managed to buy the other half of vlambeer from the retard and was back 2 bizniz, is that true?

>>713137838
Agreed on Gungeon, it's just missing a lot of build/synergy mechanics and I doubt they'll course correct for the upcoming sequel.
My personal order of preference is Nuclear Throne > Isaac >>> Gungeon, Gungeon just doesn't have anything that pulls you back even when you're mostly done with it, which is a strong requisite for these types of game
I'm not getting into Repentance until I finish my total conversion mod in 10 years or so, so I'm keeping my 100% afterbirth+ achievements for now

>>713137838
>>713144124
and forgot my file like a dumbass

is there a game like NT, BOI, or ETG that doesn't have abysmal dogshit hitboxes where you die without being hit

>>713144328
I'm a big fan of GG.

>>713144451
>GG
?

>>713144704
go-gurt

>>713144704
Grape Guice

>>713144051
Yes, he owns Vlambeer 100%
The real question is what is he gonna do with the company. He was already doing gamedev on his own without Rami so getting control of the company means he fully owns the IPs and notoriety of the dev label.
I do not expect him to revisit old games though.

>>713137838
>>713144179
I really need to git gud at throne

>>713121790 (OP)
Based and true

>>713144704
Git gud faggot.

>zero post-release support
NT loses by default
it's a shame, it had the potential to be the GOAT

>>713144884
Just play with mods

>>713144926
no

>>713144926
all 2 of them

>>713144821
It would be cool if he went back to NT, at least to officially put NTT on it and get some free promo for whatever new game he's cooking

>>713145036
>he doesnt know

>>713121790 (OP)
I still play with the /vg/ music mod pack
you know, the one where the intro starts with franz ferdinand

>>713145048
don't expect anything official, it's been 10 years and not only has JW and YAL changed in that time, so has GameMaker itself.

>>713145286
NT getting updates again and RBO getting a steam launch is my pet copium and i'll die before i lose hope.

>>713144328
Voidigo, it was mentioned already ITT. Jump-dodging is fun and the game is kinda built around it. Enemies clearly telegrph their attacks and the game even displays the exact borders of effected areas. I don't remember much bullshit with hitboxes. It's also pretty generous with i-frames.

It does my heart good to see a Nuclear Throne thread. Its such a good game.

>>713142783
Is funny looking at this image and seeing a person say "no sense of progression." They simply do not understand that you, the player, are the one that progresses. You get better, and that is the point. Its so fucking good.

>games need +50 hours of content

>>713145652
games without that are glorified movies and you wasted a lot of money on them.

IMAGINE not getting at LEAST an hour per dollar you pay for a game LMAO

>>713124597
I wonder if that islamic raimi guy is the reason we dont have any girl mutants in the cast.
the only good benefit he brought, zero gooners in the fandom and all the characters already look neat.

>>713143501
Hyper rifle always felt very meh to me. It doesn't clear rooms as well as double mini, it's bullet inefficient for chaff, and it doesn't do as much single target damage as most comparable options. I don't get its niche.

>>713145865
isn't chicken female or am I headcannoning things by accident

>>713145865
>>713146008
Chicken, Rebel, and Crystal and Robot are all female

>>713146070
I guess you'd never be able to tell just by looking at them

>>713145695
Leaving aside the fact that there are many great games that have less than 10 or even 3 hours of content, there's a big problem with your argument

>>713146132
>there are many great games that have less than 10 or even 3 hours of content
they're great in spite of that, you got scammed

>>713146096
You can tell by the voice clips. Crystal in particular is pretty feminine

The real male bias is with enemies. There's like two female enemies and they're both secret bosses

>>713146208
thank god I don't pay for video games

>>713142081
>fish that low
his ultra that gives 7 seconds of unlimited ammo is crazy good on loops if you have an SPC or some other weapon that chews through ammo with trigger fingers

the extra ammo passive is also nice to have in any situation

>>713146232
https://voca.ro/11dniyUQ4tXR
Yeah, I'm not really hearing it, especially when it's behind a bunch of music and sounds effects

>>713145695
>IMAGINE not getting at LEAST an hour per dollar you pay for a game

Underage or brown?

>>713121790 (OP)
Wrong. This game is way worse than isaac and somewhat worse than enter the gungeon.

>>713146437
substantiate your claims, fiend

>>713122650
It peaked during early access and quickly went downhill before release.

>>713146437
Wong. Fuck you.

>>713121790 (OP)
If Nuclear Throne is so great then why isn't there a Nuclear Throne 2?

>isaac
athiest slop
>gungeon
devolver slop also black woman with a gun on the art
my favorite roguelites are
>nuclear throne
>faster than light
>streets of rogue, great fun with friends
honorary mentions to
>dead cells, sadly devs wont leave it alone and keep fucking it up and fixing it in updates. at least every major patch is preserved in beta branches, so no hard feelings
>noita, its mostly about uncovering the secrets made by the dev and the synergy autism comes second.
>management genre, ancient roguelites from a bygone era. you unlocked upgrades from a pool of 3 different random upgrades, and progressed through the infinite arcade mode. games like burger shop and supermarket mania.

I like isaac and throne the most out of the vita roguelites. cause they are fun even in the first 5 minutes. they are my go to vita bathroom games. gungeon not so much cause it didnt come out on the vita
>>713139608
I wouldnt pick nuclear throne for a deserted island, I would run out of battery fast
my pick would be food and water

>>713146903
>athiest slop
Surface level understanding of game's theme. It's anti-dogmatic, not anti-religion, you philistine. Steakmund himself even said he's not an atheist.

>>713140540
you find some neat stuff if you go through steam and sort by recently released
>>713141005
gungeon has no oomph to its guns. play synthetic instead. now thats the real gun based roguelite for men

Thoughts on pic related?

>>713147667
too autismcore for me
i respect it and its existence but i tapped out when i unlocked aria

>>713133695
In my defense, I wasnt aware of the activities post-development of Nuclear Trone devs

I wasn't expect one

isaac fags are the ones with the most sold game in the genre, the game with the most awards, the most praised, the most content, the highest price. yet they come out of the wood work to shit on a game that stayed in its lane and is known as the best entry level game into to the genre.

>>713147667
Neat idea. But playing this and BPM: Bullets Per Minute made me painfully aware I have no sense of rhythm.

>>713146096
They're mutants, can YOU tell a female zebra from a male zebra just by looking at it?

>>713146070
are you trying to tell me that this individual is not the macho wall breaker crystal but the slutty strip dancer krystal?!

>>713148128
you should try playing rhythm heaven.
it lets you progress to future levels even if you botch every button press. just so you can see how you suck even more at rythm games. its like a huge long humilation ritual for rhythmlets. rhythm heaven? more like rhythm hell!

>>713147667
Really good. However I unlocked the character that makes you play at double the BPM and immediately lost all interest.

>>713147667
The most filtered I've ever been. I genuinely cannot compete. I respect it, I just can't play it.

>>713141864
Got the original image?

>>713148708
Anon, use the image search!

>>713122650
>glazing
>af
why do so many people talk like niggers now? you should look into the ntt mod. keeps the game fresh imo.

>>713149141
:(

>>713149183
>unc doesnt know what glazing is

>>713121790 (OP)
The only cheevo I'm missing (besides the 100%) is the ultra skeleton one. Are you supposed to pray to the RNGods that the first mutation you get is the extra speed one? This shit seems insurmountable. It's already a bit of a pain in the ass to get up to the labs as melting and successfully transform.

>>713121790 (OP)
I tried out the nuclear throne ultra mod and man, it's really fun.

>>713149195
This is the one I found

Did anyone else play Cryptark? It's my personal favorite roguelite (tied with streets of rogue).

>>713149608
>>713141864
I meant with the greentext.

>>713149520
I don't care about achievements

>>713142232
is it close to being finished now?
i played back when it released and had a good time with it

>>713149749
hey the anon he is replying to. you can locate where your custom steam library artwork is on your computer. share it with us.

>>713149768
Me neither, actually.
But I feel committed at this point...

>>713144837
I found it easier to get crowns by playing the same character over and over, getting every crown sequentially, but some like Melting did try my patience

>>713147667
I unironically found the game more fun when playing as the bard and planning my moves on my own tempo

I didn't really like NT, beat the throne and had a sense of "that's it?" Yeah I know there's looping but it wasn't fun the first time around.

Also didn't like Voidigo, the guns felt like shit.

I haven't played Isaac, sorry the aesthetic just filters me.

I actually really liked Gungeon. Filled out the ammonomicon and everything. Kept Turbo on from the moment I unlocked it. Rainbow runs also fix a lot of the feeling of "not getting good items."

>>713149642
I genuinely do not remember when I have bought it, but it's in my library and I'm yet to play it. Might try it this weekend, maybe. Looks neat.

>>713121790 (OP)
Men only want one thing AND IT'S FUCKING DISGUSTING

how do you fellas feel about Star of Providence (formerly known as Monolith)?

>>713150484
I mean, beating the throne is basically completing the tutorial.
I wouldn't consider NT "complete" until you beat the other bosses and get all the B-skins.
From there you can go full autismo and try to get every crown, but if you don't want to then it's a fair point to stop playing

>>713131236
Hearing this Voidigo talk when I have a big boner for Throne is nice since I apparently own Voidigo and have never played it so IT'S INSTALLING RIGHT NOW THANKS BROS

FLASHYN

>>713150705
I think it's fair to think of "getting every crown" in NT as "getting every item" in Isaac, since NT sadly doesn't have other goals to achieve
Deeplooping is just autism after that

I've been enjoying these mods for NT

https://erdeppol.itch.io/nuclear-throne-ultra-mod

https://yokin.itch.io/ntte

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcZmocY0hQM

Why did they give my nigga Steroids the two worst fucking ultras in the game?

For me personally it was Sleepcycles playing Nuclear Throne. Loved his bants, loved his ability to play, and loved how sometimes he'd just fuck around in a run 'cause why the hell not. Wish he didn't fall off the face of the earth since he was enjoyable to watch playing roguelites

>>713151032
it was the dev's way to show how his nuts shrunk

>>713151032
Because he's already the best character in the game if you equip a gun with a melee

>>713146903
>faster than light
Literally made by a tranny lol

>>713121790 (OP)
isaac if it had no content

damn, I just got home and missed the thread.
Isaac, Throne and Spire are the pinnacles that cover all the bases the best

.The black sword is best used for cutting the heads off of black niggers.

Since update 99, I have been empty inside

>>713152429
Get the mod Territorial Expansion anon.

>>713147667
Not picking that shit up since I won't be able to complete it
>Coda
>lowest of the low

>>713121913
Nah, NT takes a fat shit on this game

>>713153962
Read, anon

Do we ever mention Ak-Xolotl here?

>>713149940
I dunno about finished, but there's quite a bit now. I'd guesstimate 10-20 hours just to make it through the campaign without secret hunting or score seeking.

>>713150484
I don't really know why NT and Gungeon get lumped together; they're fundamentally different games. Most people who like NT dislike Gungeon and vice versa.

The fundamental difference is that NT is fun whereas Gungeon is a bunch of horse shit

>>713155703
>I don't really know why NT and Gungeon get lumped together
Gungeon was pretty heavily marketed to NT fans. They didn't get Doseone on the soundtrack by chance and there's several NT tributes in game but then again, Gungeon is full of tributes to better games

>>713145865
isn't rebel's entire thing being a girl mutant who has a thousand kids when you right click

>>713156257
yeah i dunno wtf that dude's on about
but to be fair, you cannot tell that by looking at the chars

>Like 100 hours played
>Could never beat Loop 1

>>713157740
play melting

>>713146070
>spoiler

>>713146903
>streets of rogue
>multiple chunk packs for variety
>endless mode so you can keep rolling through the levels
>custom class starting out with a bomb processor and the ability to buy cyanide pills on every level for even more carnage
The sequel is going to be far better in this regard because the world will react to your antics in real time. Once you've flattened that map you can take the same character and gear over to another to do it all over again.

>>713159486
Search your feelings, anon. You know it to be true.

>NT
Based
>Isaac
Based
>Gungeon
Giga cringe. If you want to play roll sloppa at least play dark souls

I'm starting to feel that the word "based" has lost it's meaning.

>>713149183
Washed boomer

Gungeon if it worse in every way

Considering getting this game. I’ve played both Binding of Isaac (not really impressed with its gameplay, it just had a tons of items with no descriptions), and Enter the Gungeon (something about it didn’t grab me, don’t know why). What makes Nuclear Throne special?

>>713163171
just pirate it and play, retard
the gameplay speaks for itself

>>713134538
>Delirium without items
That, my friend, is luck based.

>>713163171
its fun without needing to unlock anything

>>713121790 (OP)
It has been like 15 years and we still don't have a single roguelite twinstick shooter that comes even close to the flair and style of this game.
Things got even worse because the Slay-The-Spire-like 3 choice popup every 20 seconds "gameplay" is bleeding into way too many games now.

>>713121790 (OP)
used to play this, gungeon and star of provenance (previously monolith) in lockdown and gungeon was the best

>>713141104
>>713137838
Those are rookie numbers.

>>713163558
it's a slightly different style of top-down action game but I thought OTXO's gameplay was pretty solid

>>713163171
very arcadey, fast fun, funny deaths, short and sweet, just the right amount of frustrating, satisfying weapons, good game flavour

>>713121790 (OP)
Why do I relate to Melting so much?

>>713163852
I’m sold on it. I’ll buy it the first chance I get.

>>713121790 (OP)
>30fps

>>713164335
switch to the unlimited fps/widescreen beta branch

>>713148708
>>713149749
lol, i just added all the scratches and text over the original img that he posted >>713149608 its official art for the game by justin chang. Uhh, still if you just wanted the one with the text couldnt you have just cropped it? NP tho, im flattered that you enjoyed it.

>>713149986
Not sure if this is aimed towards me?

>>713145630
>They simply do not understand that you, the player, are the one that progresses. You get better, and that is the point.
I hate le "progression" so much. Its all fucking extrinsic motivation for most normies. They seriously cant comprehend something that doesnt spoonfeed them "upgrades" or "rewards" every 5 mins.

>>713164507
what how have I not heard of this

>>713121790 (OP)
isaac if he faggot devs

>>713144124
I will say Gungeon got a big update at one point that added way more synergies between items. Before then a synergy was super-rare to the point that most items just felt like duds. Now you're almost guaranteed to get multiple in a longer run.

Isaac is ok but lot of players in multiplayer are fucking idiots. I give 2 warnings each time and kick/quit on the third.

>>713141104
>1200 hours
>no Dead God
bro?

>>713148161
No, more of a mom with fat ass.

>>713149183
zoomers are niggers regardless of skin color

I loved this game, no other similar game can compare in soundtrack.
I miss it, I wish I could get NT2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXB3f5RKV1A&list=OLAK5uy_mzG7obXmrvqL_NbyFLB9wi80uHFRRwdAM&index=1

>>713168878
The devs are Swedish, so your statement still applies

>>713150484
>I didnt like NT
>I really liked gungeon
Every fucking time, congrats on your dogshit opinion

>>713159961
Idk fella, I played the demo and truth be told the open world and crafting shit is terrible. Game works better in a contained level

>>713168984
Passive items still rarely drop, so you can say that and noone will notice after 5 complete runs

>>713168987
Zabito: BOGA

>>713168987
Third time's the charm, kick em on the fourth warning instead.

>>713173410
Anon…liking the shittier game doesn’t make you special
It’s just common knowledge that Enter the Gungeon is a far superior game to Nuclear Throne

Dead Estate is fun enough for what it is, but I wouldn't recommend it for anyone looking for a challenge. It's trivially easy to break, once you get used to the economy. There's lots of fun characters, though the guns are pretty samey, barring some exceptions.
There's some cool challenges, like pac-man and a whole survival horror mode

>>713121790 (OP)
not my cup of tea but I always liked this song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ly8r4167BnU

>>713173153
They're Dutch and one is a mohamadeen muslim rape ape

>>713176375
Lel

>>713163558
Voidigo

>>713166276
Not him but thanks for the pic anon. Surprised of the many ways this little game filters "gamers" so much

>>713170229
online coop is dumb and gay and i refuse to give a shit about it, i got dead god already

>ctrl-f Ultra Mod
>two mentions
Nice, UM is peak throne. If NT got Isaac expanions I'd imagine ultra is what we'd have eventually gotten

>>713180095
np mate glad you liked it lol. And yeah its crazy how hard this game filters people.

>>713174841
>liking the shittier game doesn’t make you special
I will take liking the "shittier" game everyday over liking the shitter game. Its just common knowledge that Enter the Gungeon is a far easier game compared to Nuclear Throne.

>>713121790 (OP)
idk what these game are lol

>>713184407
no one asked

>>713122650
It's a very good game for when you don't want to put the commitment into a typical roguelite run.

Are there any other less known roguelikes? I need my fix

>>713135125
Nuclear throne is unambiguously not a roguelike

is NT closer to isaac or necrodancer?

>>713121790 (OP)
>>713122650
>>713124409
I honestly don't really like NT and prefer Gungeon a lot more. I can see myself avoiding everything in Gungeon in an open field with enough skill. In NT I can't see myself living more than a few second.

Gungeon is a shmup telegraphing everything correctly, in NT you try find the closest corner to hide behind because you're not meant to avoid bullets as they come. There's way too much RNG in NT for my taste.
I like shmups, I don't like hiding and praying that you'll shoot first and see the mob about to kill you before it shoots.

How does Nuclear Throne look/run for Switch 2? I got the itch to play again and it would be ideal to play on my bed

>>713185237
Teleglitch is worth mentionning in a NT thread. Very brutal but worth grinding. Plenty of thibgs to learn to make runs progressively easier.

>>713187569
Definitely Issac. Necrodancer is turn based, for one.

Our thoughts, NT-bros?
Personally i think it's really good.

>>713167362
Just use pcgamingwiki for any game that has similar issues to that.

>>713192084
I fucking love this game but they sadly abandoned updating it due to their friendslop game blowing up in popularity.
I wonder if Drash or the game is even referenced in REPO?

If they kept adding items/areas/bosses it would be a top 5 roguelite, but if we compare it to Isaac or Throne's Ultra Mod it's sadly very lacking in content and has some balance issues.

>>713185237
Atomicrops is a hybrid of twinstick roguelite and farming game. It's very strange.

>>713194093
Hyped for Morsels? Same artist I think

>>713182484
>peak throne
no. it's a fun little remix and nothing more.
there's too many mutations that outright trivialise the game, it's so easy it's almost boring.

>>713189729
bump here, I don't want to buy it and have it be all stretched out in portable mode

>>713194293
Blatantly false. Original NT has awful mutation balance and using long arms+trigger fingers trivializes it far far more than any UM exclusive muts.
Or getting an auto crossbow with bolt marrow honestly. UM has gotten a lot of changes over time too, and there's much more challenging content through inverted areas and loop autism. Hard mode is also ball busting too.
I say this as someone who has 100%ed Ultra Mod (before the latest beta characters just added), original NT is fantastic but it's far from perfect and has a lot of balance issues.

>>713192084
Had no idea it existed till now but I'll try it out someday.

>>713192084
Just bought it for 4.99 because fuckit, I need more isaac/nt autism

>>713175448
i appreciate that it's a meaty game, but it never clicks with me desu. all the weapons feel weaksauce.

>>713134540
That fucker gatekept me for so long

>>713150634
pretty fun, the difficult spikes are kind of insane for me as a roguelike fan and schmup casual